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apalisoc_9
04-08-2016, 02:14 PM
4.

- Terrific box out player. Something West-Diaw-Boban cant do.

- as chinook have pointed out, hes a smart defender.

- hes been a willing corner three pointer.

DenialTwist
04-08-2016, 02:18 PM
He's a good rebounder because of his size. He slows the game down which is a must vs. the Warriors. I like his midrange jumper too, he is in control.

apalisoc_9
04-08-2016, 02:19 PM
He's a good rebounder because of his size. He slows the game down which is a must vs. the Warriors. I like his midrange jumper too, he is in control.

Sure the size helps, but size cant do shit without reboubding fundamentals. See Boban and many other shitty european 7 footers.

webshad
04-08-2016, 02:21 PM
He had an excellent game, last night.

DAF86
04-08-2016, 02:22 PM
If he's gonna be a full time 4, he needs to put on some weight, tbh.

TDomination
04-08-2016, 02:25 PM
What i like most is he always seems in control. He doesn't seem to get frantic, and the moment doesn't seem to big for him. Granted he really hasn't played in any big games but theres been a few moments where he was out there in key moments and has hit big shots.

SpursforSix
04-08-2016, 02:28 PM
What i like most is he always seems in control. He doesn't seem to get frantic, and the moment doesn't seem to big for him. Granted he really hasn't played in any big games but theres been a few moments where he was out there in key moments and has hit big shots.

He doesn't move fast enough to be out of control.

Just kidding of course. I agree, he never seems panicked or rushed.

spursistan
04-08-2016, 02:32 PM
just hope he doesn't get rattled in playoff atmosphere..looks like we are going to need few quality minutes out of him before the Warriors..we don't know exactly the severity of Diaw injury but he might take a back seat in first couple of rounds..If Kyle holds his own , you have to go with him over West vs GSW..

jyra
04-08-2016, 02:34 PM
Sure the size helps, but size cant do shit without reboubding fundamentals. See Boban and many other shitty european 7 footers.

I just rewatched all of his rebounds in this game and none of them can really be classified as contested. There is either no opponent around or if there is, somebody else has already put a body on them. These rebounds don't collect themselves but it was hardly a matter of great fundamentals or hustle to chase them down. On about half of them he didn't even have to jump to get the ball.

Budkin
04-08-2016, 02:34 PM
He really is a similar player to Diaw as was said the night we drafted him.

kaji157
04-08-2016, 03:14 PM
Manu has always been very high on him and i think that is a credit to him as Ginobili a great in deph knowladge of the game.

SAGirl
04-08-2016, 03:14 PM
Has excellent timing and anticipation, plus very long arms. He boxes out early unlike D west and other bad rebounding big s who ballwatch and wait until the ball is popping out to try to box somebody out. He has terrific fundamentals too using legs and hips to box out properly, unlike other big s who just put an arm on a guy and think that is going to be sufficient.

Constantly boxes behemoths heavier than he is bc he has heart and grit. Will put a body on someone early for the most part. Obviously others don't see it, or have been too biased to see it. He knows how to play.

Atl Spur
04-08-2016, 03:19 PM
Once he starts to play like he belongs, his skill set will allow him to do things very few can. His size and wingspan is ridiculous! He plays lazy sometimes....

HarlemHeat37
04-08-2016, 03:27 PM
At this point, I'd rather see him at PG vs. Golden State, tbh:lol

Kawhitstorm
04-08-2016, 03:52 PM
I just rewatched all of his rebounds in this game and none of them can really be classified as contested. There is either no opponent around or if there is, somebody else has already put a body on them. These rebounds don't collect themselves but it was hardly a matter of great fundamentals or hustle to chase them down. On about half of them he didn't even have to jump to get the ball.

This isn't an isolate situation buddy, his DEFENSIVE rebounding percentage is the same as Kawhi's for the season: http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/2016.html#advanced::10

He's similar to Durant in that he uses his length to grab rebounds.

Kawhitstorm
04-08-2016, 03:57 PM
At this point, I'd rather see him at PG vs. Golden State, tbh:lol

I already put out there the Kyle/Danny/Kawhi/Diaw/LMA lineup.:lol

Chinook
04-08-2016, 04:03 PM
The only reason why I think Anderson's probably going to end up as a four is because I think the Spurs will want to play him next to Kawhi and Green or whichever two-guard the team gets to replace Manu. I don't think he's overmatched on the perimeter at all, especially against bench players. He needs to be aggressive when he has a mismatch on him, which would be more frequent if he played as a wing. He needs to set up shop against the smaller guys and just Dirk-fadeway them into oblivion.

Gotta love the versatility, though. Anderson's able to get a lot more minutes than Joseph was able to because he can fill in for like 75 percent of the roster. That alone is helping speed up his development curve.

RD2191
04-08-2016, 04:10 PM
Is KA really 6'9? He looks about Kawhi's height.

apalisoc_9
04-08-2016, 04:11 PM
I already put out there the Kyle/Danny/Kawhi/Diaw/LMA lineup.:lol

Looks like a a bucks version of the spurs but on steroids.

ElNono
04-08-2016, 04:12 PM
I have a love-hate affair with him... I want him to be more aggressive...

jyra
04-08-2016, 04:20 PM
This isn't an isolate situation buddy, his DEFENSIVE rebounding percentage is the same as Kawhi's for the season: http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/SAS/2016.html#advanced::10

He's similar to Durant in that he uses his length to grab rebounds.

I didn't say anything about his rebounding in other games. It just annoys me that the high rebounding number in this particular game is taken out of context.

Kawhitstorm
04-08-2016, 04:21 PM
Looks like a a bucks version of the spurs but on steroids.

Fat Head is going to have his CoJo moment against the Worriers.:toast

Kawhitstorm
04-08-2016, 04:22 PM
I didn't say anything about his rebounding in other games. It just annoys me that the high rebounding number in this particular game is taken out of context.

Been waiting for Bonner to get 11 rebounds during garbage time for half a decade.:wakeup

turkish spurs fan
04-08-2016, 04:28 PM
i dream him as a pg

r0drig0lac
04-08-2016, 04:57 PM
i dream him as a pg

he is a pg, unfortunately Pop will not use it in its original position

Spurs9
04-08-2016, 05:09 PM
I have never liked Andersons play tbh, but last night I was impressed with the way he played and some of his moves. Its almost in slow motion literally but he can be effective.

SAGirl
04-08-2016, 05:14 PM
The only reason why I think Anderson's probably going to end up as a four is because I think the Spurs will want to play him next to Kawhi and Green or whichever two-guard the team gets to replace Manu. I don't think he's overmatched on the perimeter at all, especially against bench players. He needs to be aggressive when he has a mismatch on him, which would be more frequent if he played as a wing. He needs to set up shop against the smaller guys and just Dirk-fadeway them into oblivion.

Gotta love the versatility, though. Anderson's able to get a lot more minutes than Joseph was able to because he can fill in for like 75 percent of the roster. That alone is helping speed up his development curve.
Agreed and yet haters like Brazil blast him bc he's versatile and can do several things well enough at an NBA level to sub in and play multiple positions and lineups within a single game! I too like him in the perimeter, but eventually he will be able to play several positions well enough that it won't matter. His playmaking ability is needed in the SL definitely.

He needs to be more aggressive but at the same time he's not a go to guy in this team, he was barely playing outside of garbage time until TD and Manu got hurt just 2 months ago and I don't think he has license to force his shots. He only does that to save possessions bc of danger of shot clock violations. He has to take the prescribed shots or run the offense: get the ball to Kawhi or LMA. If Pop wants to embolden him more in the postseason bc we need him in a game or something, he will.

Early season he stated himself that the season wasn't about him or his development. He was going to try to make the team to start and perform a small role. Basically he wasn't even meant to be this significant for us this season. It's just been shocking that our vets are looking their age finally and now we need him to step it up.

The envelope Pop had devised for him earlier in the season as a spot up shooter playing off Manu didn't take advantage of his skills and the ways he could help this team either. It was one if those things where he had to come in, play his game and push himself outside of Pop's preconceived box.

So now the second half of the season it's a different team. He's been a different guy, averaging 20 minutes, playing a bunch of spots and acting as a playmaker regardless of position. The decision making of when to push for his shots and when to defer is tilted toward deferral at this point, but bc he's so young and new it's probably for the best. But I do think in the playoffs they will push him to be more aggressive just bc sometimes your best option is doubled, guarded by the best defensive player, meantime he's 6'9" and can shoot very well off the top of most perimeter players, specially the ones they put on him. He might be pushed to capitalize on that much more.

SAGirl
04-08-2016, 05:27 PM
I have a love-hate affair with him... I want him to be more aggressive...
I think we all do. Even Sean Elliott wants him to shoot more. I think Pop is the one who has the key there. I don't think Pop planned for him to play so much outside of the box and be looking to get his. He had Kyle slotted up for a very small role. In his interviews it's all defense/rebounding yada/yada, the company line.

But as he pushed Kawhi at one point bc we needed him, the time may come that he's got to be pushed to maybe go and get his a little more, specially when he has easy matches.

Kikoluna
04-08-2016, 05:35 PM
Waterboy, seriously. He's horrible

tholdren
04-08-2016, 06:17 PM
Nutsac

CP48107
04-08-2016, 06:24 PM
4.

- Terrific box out player. Something West-Diaw-Boban cant do.

- as chinook have pointed out, hes a smart defender.

- hes been a willing corner three pointer. +1

He is also very intelligent. He definitely has a bright future.

K...
04-08-2016, 06:25 PM
The centerpiece (offense)

SouthernFried
04-08-2016, 06:29 PM
From watching this season, I would take Kyle over Parker as starting PG.

He rebounds better, Passes better and defends better than Parker.

He's not a pure scorer like Parker, but Parker's scoring has went to shit the entire 2nd half of season.

I would start Kyle over Parker tomorrow. :)

skulls138
04-08-2016, 06:34 PM
I have a love-hate affair with him... I want him to be more aggressive...Hes odd to figure out sometimes. He somehow is still effective despite being passive. He seems timid but when they NEED a bucket at a crucial point in the game, he moseys his way around until he finds his spot and scores. I have confidence in him when he has the ball.

tholdren
04-08-2016, 06:38 PM
From watching this season, I would take Kyle over Parker as starting PG.

He rebounds better, Passes better and defends better than Parker.

He's not a pure scorer like Parker, but Parker's scoring has went to shit the entire 2nd half of season.

I would start Kyle over Parker tomorrow. :)
Lottery bound

tholdren
04-08-2016, 09:35 PM
Bump for the idiots

TheGreatYacht
04-08-2016, 09:45 PM
The hot takes in this thread :lmao

I was a Kyle fan.... and then I see him play in the NBA

pgardn
04-08-2016, 09:53 PM
We keep him.

He has got basketball on the brain. Maybe not tonight, but he definitely stays.
Patience...

Silver&Black
04-08-2016, 10:27 PM
Yikes...

http://i.imgur.com/Ve2G8d0.png

Texas_Ranger
04-08-2016, 10:28 PM
One good game and some people think he's great... :lol idiots

SpurPadre
04-08-2016, 10:29 PM
Yikes...

http://i.imgur.com/Ve2G8d0.png

Against a glorified D-league team too.

.G.
04-08-2016, 10:36 PM
Damn shame, da boy's got potencha.

UNT Eagles 2016
04-08-2016, 10:39 PM
fathead blows.

Ditty
04-08-2016, 10:40 PM
Pretty much a rookie lacking inconsistency. He will be given a shot in the postseason whether we like it or not. Hopefully he gains confidence, and gets hot. We will need him in the conference finals.

daslicer
04-08-2016, 10:43 PM
He's the poverty version of Magic Johnson.

pgardn
04-08-2016, 10:53 PM
One good game and some people think he's great... :lol idiots

Same with the bad games and getting rid of him.

We keep him.

Dro210
04-08-2016, 11:19 PM
Same with the bad games and getting rid of him.

We keep him.

:tu

Wasn't even that bad of a game... Bad shooting night, but they weren't bad shots. Assist number would have been higher if guys were making shots and Patty wasn't running the show into the ground as fast as he could while he was out there. Kyle's biggest strength right now anyway is playing with guys that can capitalize off of his playmaking, especially ones that can make cuts (Manu/Kawhi), but that's not what we were running with tonight. That's why he should start against gs though... He'll steady feed Kawhi and LaMarcus the way they should be. Also because Patty has been shit lately and TP can play that role off the bench a million times better right now.

TheGreatYacht
04-08-2016, 11:23 PM
34 minutes, 2pts, 6reb, 2ast, 1TO, 1-9 shooting, -8

"Not that bad of a game"

Jakarr Sampson, 76ers reject, will piss on his grave when the time comes.

Dro210
04-08-2016, 11:24 PM
34 minutes, 2pts, 6reb, 2ast, 1TO, 1-9 shooting, -8

"Not that bad of a game"

Jakarr Sampson, 76ers reject, will piss on his grave when the time comes.

This is your one reply... You're not worth my time.

Splits
04-08-2016, 11:24 PM
Yikes...

http://i.imgur.com/Ve2G8d0.png

that's called the apo curse

TheGreatYacht
04-08-2016, 11:27 PM
that's called the apo curse
I will bet Apo's account if Kyle has at least 1 fanduel point next game

SAGirl
04-08-2016, 11:30 PM
Obviously bad shooting night. It happens to everyone.

SAGirl
04-08-2016, 11:31 PM
One good game and some people think he's great... :lol idiots
It wasn't the only one. More like this one is the anomaly. More like one bad game and the haters pounce. :rolleyes

200 miles
04-08-2016, 11:39 PM
It wasn't the only one. More like this one is the anomaly. More like one bad game and the haters pounce. :rolleyes

It almost seems like they are rooting for KA to fail.

The more bad games he has, the louder these myopic trolls become with their posts.

SAGirl
04-08-2016, 11:40 PM
:tu

Wasn't even that bad of a game... Bad shooting night, but they weren't bad shots. Assist number would have been higher if guys were making shots and Patty wasn't running the show into the ground as fast as he could while he was out there. Kyle's biggest strength right now anyway is playing with guys that can capitalize off of his playmaking, especially ones that can make cuts (Manu/Kawhi), but that's not what we were running with tonight. That's why he should start against gs though... He'll steady feed Kawhi and LaMarcus the way they should be. Also because Patty has been shit lately and TP can play that role off the bench a million times better right now.

ST has gotten so full of bad trolls and depressed, self-defeating faggots that it's ridiculous. These idiots could have 15 '96 Jordan's on this team and still find something to cry about every night.
I appreciate your comment and insight. To me it was a bad shooting night. He didn't get his jump shots to fall early and that set the tone. The 3 was a good look and it just rimmed in and out. He wasn't as passive as he'd been in the past despite the cold shooting. It happens to everyone.

Obviously if they pounce on Tony when he's cold shooting, expect some to pounce on Kyle too. He's a spur, the trolls feast on bad games lol it's what they live for.

That said he will bounce back from this. He's not this bad of a shooter. It's an anomaly. He will have better games in the playoffs when it matters.

SAGirl
04-08-2016, 11:49 PM
It almost seems like they are rooting for KA to fail.

The more bad games he has, the louder these myopic trolls become with their posts.
There are some guys who just love to troll no matter who it is except a favorite player (for some reason a lot of Tony fans hate on everyone else). Others have picked up a schtick against him early in the season and now they are invested in their trashy take.

They won't shut up bc everyone has a bad game from time to time and for a developing player it will be up and down as he works through his game. Bad shooting nights happen to every one. Not much more to say.

AZK619
04-08-2016, 11:54 PM
Wouldn't mind seeing Pop fuck around with the starting lineup, by letting Kyle run the point Sunday, tbh. It's a meaningless game after all.. :downspin:

SAGirl
04-08-2016, 11:55 PM
He's the poverty version of Magic Johnson.
Wasn't playing PG here, weren't you watching Patty Mills the PG in this case?

lefty
04-08-2016, 11:55 PM
At this point, I'd rather see him at PG vs. Golden State, tbh:lol

Hoops Czar
04-08-2016, 11:59 PM
From watching this season, I would take Kyle over Parker as starting PG.

He rebounds better, Passes better and defends better than Parker.

He's not a pure scorer like Parker, but Parker's scoring has went to shit the entire 2nd half of season.

I would start Kyle over Parker tomorrow. :)


Lottery bound

daslicer
04-09-2016, 12:03 AM
Wasn't playing PG here, weren't you watching Patty Mills the PG in this case?

That's just my general assessment of him.

SAGirl
04-09-2016, 12:10 AM
That's just my general assessment of him.
Oh ok. :tu sorry I misunderstood. I ultimately have no idea what Pop has in mind for him since he's,played all over. One thing is clear, Pop wants him to develop the post up game. But that works for any spot.

Robz4000
04-09-2016, 12:29 AM
Fathead is fine tbh. Next year will be more definitive for if he's a piece to build with or just a periphery bench player.

SouthernFried
04-09-2016, 12:58 AM
Some over-react after a good game, some over-react after a bad game.

Kyle's natural position...is PG. Not Forward. Trying to fit round peg into a square hole is nothing but frustrating...to everyone concerned.

DMC
04-09-2016, 01:03 AM
He's ok. He's not like Simmons, with that d-league mentality "gotta get det contract" slave rage out of fucking control black anger shit.

SAGirl
04-09-2016, 01:55 AM
Some over-react after a good game, some over-react after a bad game.

Kyle's natural position...is PG. Not Forward. Trying to fit round peg into a square hole is nothing but frustrating...to everyone concerned.
What do you see in his future? I don't think I see Pop letting him be a PG from whatever spot he wants to slot him at. Same as Manu is a SG in spot but plays PG next to a "PG" who in reality is a SG. I probably invite a lot of trolling with this but I don't think we lose that game had Kyle been the PG at the end. Ppl like to hate but we haven't lost a close game out of those he played to close it out ever. They were not this close, but the Pelicans game at home, he made the last offensive shot-controlled hot clock, pace, no TO. The Lakers game he played instead of Kawhi he closed out. Kyle doesn't TO the ball in fact many guards gamble fir the steal leaving him an open drive, pass or fouling him. He has the overambitious passes, but not the TO bc they picked the ball up from him.

Is Pop ever going to play him at his natural spot?

SouthernFried
04-09-2016, 02:51 AM
What do you see in his future? I don't think I see Pop letting him be a PG from whatever spot he wants to slot him at. Same as Manu is a SG in spot but plays PG next to a "PG" who in reality is a SG. I probably invite a lot of trolling with this but I don't think we lose that game had Kyle been the PG at the end. Ppl like to hate but we haven't lost a close game out of those he played to close it out ever. They were not this close, but the Pelicans game at home, he made the last offensive shot-controlled hot clock, pace, no TO. The Lakers game he played instead of Kawhi he closed out. Kyle doesn't TO the ball in fact many guards gamble fir the steal leaving him an open drive, pass or fouling him. He has the overambitious passes, but not the TO bc they picked the ball up from him.

Is Pop ever going to play him at his natural spot?

That's the million dollar question, eh? :)

If Pop was inclined to do that, this would have been the perfect game for it. If Kyle is going to be given the chance to excel in this league, he has to be given the chance to play at what he does best. I'm sure college coaches had the same view..."too slow & tall to be a PG."

Personally, I would start Kyle as PG. Or, at least, bring him off the bench quick depending on Parker's game-du-jour.

Starting lineup would look like this: (just this year tho ;) )
C/F - LMA
PF - Diaw
SF - Kawhi
SG - Green (or possibly Patty to add quickness/3 point shooting to this unit)
PG - Kyle

Second Lineup:
C/F - Duncan
PF - West (cuz I think he plays better with Duncan)
SF - Manu
SG - Patty (or Green to add perimeter D to this unit)
PG - Parker

This would be kinda cool, because the 2nd unit has played together for a LOT of years, lol. What they lack in youth, they can make up some in experience and cohesion. The issue, as I'm sure you figured out, would be Parker. Still, I haven't seen Parker really gel with the new starting lineup and guys. He's not as good in working with ISO guys. Give him Manu and Tim on the 2nd unit...who knows? I'd think Parker would be much more active with them.

Anyway, I would love to see Kyle given the opportunity to play his natural position. I know he could do it if given the chance. I'd hate to see a "woulda, coulda, shoulda" asterisk by his name in the future.

tholdren
04-09-2016, 08:18 AM
What do you see in his future? I don't think I see Pop letting him be a PG from whatever spot he wants to slot him at. Same as Manu is a SG in spot but plays PG next to a "PG" who in reality is a SG. I probably invite a lot of trolling with this but I don't think we lose that game had Kyle been the PG at the end. Ppl like to hate but we haven't lost a close game out of those he played to close it out ever. They were not this close, but the Pelicans game at home, he made the last offensive shot-controlled hot clock, pace, no TO. The Lakers game he played instead of Kawhi he closed out. Kyle doesn't TO the ball in fact many guards gamble fir the steal leaving him an open drive, pass or fouling him. He has the overambitious passes, but not the TO bc they picked the ball up from him.

Is Pop ever going to play him at his natural spot?

You mean bench being his natural spot? Let me know when you have seen a PG, who is non-scoring, play 34 minutes jack up crap shots (1-9) and only have 2 assists. PG is the last position he needs to play.

cutewizard
04-09-2016, 08:34 AM
From watching this season, I would take Kyle over Parker as starting PG.

He rebounds better, Passes better and defends better than Parker.

He's not a pure scorer like Parker, but Parker's scoring has went to shit the entire 2nd half of season.


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can he defend point guards??
I would start Kyle over Parker tomorrow. :)

cutewizard
04-09-2016, 08:40 AM
how about:

Diaw, LMA, Kawhi, Martin and Kyle???

unusual, but experimental, hehehhe

cutewizard
04-09-2016, 08:42 AM
the question is:

IS POP WILLING TO EMBRACE INNOVATION?? ( the idea of Kyle as PG)

:bobo

:claw

Obstructed_View
04-09-2016, 09:00 AM
At this point, I'd rather see him at PG vs. Golden State, tbh:lol

I agree. At the risk of inflaming the morons, if Parker isn't penetrating OR passing, then he's a huge hindrance to the offense. Strange as it sounds, the player on the Spurs who physically dominates opponents most is KA. Danny Green can defend point guards, so cross matching isn't a problem. Kyle is a willing post player, especially when there's a mismatch.

tholdren
04-09-2016, 09:02 AM
I agree. At the risk of inflaming the morons, if Parker isn't penetrating OR passing, then he's a huge hindrance to the offense. Strange as it sounds, the player on the Spurs who physically dominates opponents most is KA. Danny Green can defend point guards, so cross matching isn't a problem. Kyle is a willing post player, especially when there's a mismatch.
lol

Obstructed_View
04-09-2016, 09:03 AM
You mean bench being his natural spot? Let me know when you have seen a PG, who is non-scoring, play 34 minutes jack up crap shots (1-9) and only have 2 assists. PG is the last position he needs to play.

Tony Parker did it twice the first year he started. Once against the Clippers and once against the Jazz. The Spurs won both games.

Obstructed_View
04-09-2016, 09:46 AM
lol

So you're saying that Tony Parker and Patty Mills are better defenders than Danny Green then?

tholdren
04-09-2016, 12:18 PM
So you're saying that Tony Parker and Patty Mills are better defenders than Danny Green then?
No - I scoff at the idea that Danny Green can defend the point.

tholdren
04-09-2016, 12:19 PM
Tony Parker did it twice the first year he started. Once against the Clippers and once against the Jazz. The Spurs won both games.
Parker has never been considered a NON SCORING PG.

Obstructed_View
04-09-2016, 01:19 PM
Parker has never been considered a NON SCORING PG.

Yet he still did it twice.

Obstructed_View
04-09-2016, 01:20 PM
No - I scoff at the idea that Danny Green can defend the point.

Right now he's covering for Patty and Parker as it is. What's the difference?

tholdren
04-09-2016, 01:59 PM
Yet he still did it twice.
tp was never considered A NON SCORING PG

Obstructed_View
04-09-2016, 03:09 PM
tp was never considered A NON SCORING PG

Right. Parker's a scorer. And he went 1-9 with two assists or less twice.

dabom
04-09-2016, 03:16 PM
Right. Parker's a scorer. And he went 1-9 with two assists or less twice.

That's better than Tony in Game 5 2014 Finals for 2 and a half quarters. :lmao

tholdren
04-09-2016, 03:18 PM
Right. Parker's a scorer. And he went 1-9 with two assists or less twice.
you misunderstand my point. Tony Parker is a scoring PG. Whether he goes 0fer is totally different when Spurs 17th option goes 1-9.

SAGirl
04-09-2016, 03:19 PM
Right. Parker's a scorer. And he went 1-9 with two assists or less twice.
What the troll doesn't want to look at is that it was a practice scrimmage game where Pop had Kyle work on his weaknesses. He wasn't the PG in the game, Patty and Miller were. He wasn't even the SG. He was played as a forward and was working on improving his post up game. He had a bad shooting night. Nights like that happen to everyone occasionally and with a few exceptions of open shots (notably a 3 that rimmed in and out, it wasn't an airball or a wide off the mark shot), everything else was a contested post up. It was a perfect game for him to practice that stuff.

tholdren
04-09-2016, 03:21 PM
What the troll doesn't want to look at is that it was a practice scrimmage game where Pop had Kyle work on his weaknesses. He wasn't the PG in the game, Patty and Miller were. He wasn't even the SG. He was played as a forward and was working on improving his post up game. He had a bad shooting night. Nights like that happen to everyone occasionally and with a few exceptions of open shots (notably a 3 that rimmed in and out, it wasn't an airball or a wide off the mark shot), everything else was a contested post up. It was a perfect game for him to practice that stuff.

oh my

dabom
04-09-2016, 03:22 PM
What the troll doesn't want to look at is that it was a practice scrimmage game where Pop had Kyle work on his weaknesses. He wasn't the PG in the game, Patty and Miller were. He wasn't even the SG. He was played as a forward and was working on improving his post up game. He had a bad shooting night. Nights like that happen to everyone occasionally and with a few exceptions of open shots (notably a 3 that rimmed in and out, it wasn't an airball or a wide off the mark shot), everything else was a contested post up. It was a perfect game for him to practice that stuff.

It's not a post up if it ain't contested. You don't need to make it sound harder than it is. He doesn't have a post up game.

Dro210
04-09-2016, 03:31 PM
He doesn't have a post up game.

lol... What?

SAGirl
04-09-2016, 03:34 PM
It's not a post up if it ain't contested. You don't need to make it sound harder than it is. He doesn't have a post up game.
He didn't have it b4 he was drafted. He didn't rely on that to score or to create. It's something Pop and the coaches have him working on and he's probably not strong enough to be too effective. It's probably something that will mature with his game as he adds strength. He came in a much lighter player too.

dabom
04-09-2016, 03:35 PM
lol... What?

Are you a fucking dumbass. If he did he would be the actual "back-up 3" :lmao

SouthernFried
04-09-2016, 03:41 PM
Parker is a scoring PG.

And that's the problem. When he ain't scoring...he does little to nothing to help the offense. And he ain't been scoring much the last half of this season...doing little to nothing to help the offense. If he was scoring, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Dro210
04-09-2016, 03:45 PM
Are you a fucking dumbass. If he did he would be the actual "back-up 3" :lmao

:lol Watch the games homie

dabom
04-09-2016, 03:47 PM
:lol Watch the games homie

I do.

Faggot. Even SAGirl (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=49524) agrees. :lol

Dro210
04-09-2016, 04:16 PM
I do.

Faggot. Even SAGirl (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=49524) agrees. :lol

That supposed to mean something to me? I have no allegiance or bias towards any posters, positive or negative (different story for outright trolls). I agree when somebody's right, and disagree when they're wrong.

Anderson's great at going to the post when he has the mismatch, and he generally takes advantage... If you're saying he can't just sit in the post and post PFs, then I agree with that, cause he's not a PF. That shit is stupid... but he definitely has a nice post game when going against guys he has the size advantage against.

dabom
04-09-2016, 04:28 PM
That supposed to mean something to me? I have no allegiance or bias towards any posters, positive or negative (different story for outright trolls). I agree when somebody's right, and disagree when they're wrong.

Anderson's great at going to the post when he has the mismatch, and he generally takes advantage... If you're saying he can't just sit in the post and post PFs, then I agree with that, cause he's not a PF. That shit is stupid... but he definitely has a nice post game when going against guys he has the size advantage against.

Except he can't back up the smaller player and still elects to shoot over with no semblance for post-up game. Just because he does it does not mean he has it. :lmao

Dro210
04-09-2016, 04:35 PM
Except he can't back up the smaller player and still elects to shoot over with no semblance for post-up game.

He does it all the time... He did it at least twice last night, but missed the shots. He's usually money on it. Took dude from about 18' on the catch, down to 8-10', spun and took a high % shot. Do you think a postups always end in a guy being buried under the rim and dunked on? Idk what you're looking for here.

dabom
04-09-2016, 04:36 PM
He does it all the time... He did it at least twice last night, but missed the shots. He's usually money on it. Took dude from about 18' on the catch, down to 8-10', spun and took a high % shot. Do you think a postups always end in a guy being buried under the rim and dunked on? Idk what you're looking for here.

When he shoots like 100% of the time it's called no post game. Sorry dude. :lol

SAGirl
04-09-2016, 04:41 PM
Parker is a scoring PG.

And that's the problem. When he ain't scoring...he does little to nothing to help the offense. And he ain't been scoring much the last half of this season...doing little to nothing to help the offense. If he was scoring, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
There are obvious trolls here. Tony misses scoring opportunities for his teammates all the time. That is the problem with his PG skills. Other than a PnP, his teammates don't get anything easy. Andre Miller and Kyle do a better job finding guys in scoring positions bc they are always looking for teammates. Kyle needs to improve his offensive game but there is no denying his passing ability.

That ability is why he was drafted but as always with Pop, specially young players, he pushes them to be better than they were when he got them. It's still too early in his career to say Pop's plan for him has failed when he's not played optimally.

I think Pop knows what he can do but he insists on playing him outside of his comfort zone for two reasons:1. Probably wants him to be the best player he can be, which he hopes can be a more versatile player who can do more for the team than pass, but also score when needed; 2. He has to fit in a role with what we need from him right now, and he's not going to rearrange others for him. That matters not bc the rearranging will be done by father time whether he's ready for it or not. We will need more scoring from him once Manu retires.

tholdren
04-09-2016, 04:48 PM
There are obvious trolls here. Tony misses scoring opportunities for his teammates all the time. That is the problem with his PG skills. Other than a PnP, his teammates don't get anything easy. Andre Miller and Kyle do a better job finding guys in scoring positions bc they are always looking for teammates. Kyle needs to improve his offensive game but there is no denying his passing ability.

That ability is why he was drafted but as always with Pop, specially young players, he pushes them to be better than they were when he got them. It's still too early in his career to say Pop's plan for him has failed when he's not played optimally.

I think Pop knows what he can do but he insists on playing him outside of his comfort zone for two reasons:1. Probably wants him to be the best player he can be, which he hopes can be a more versatile player who can do more for the team than pass, but also score when needed; 2. He has to fit in a role with what we need from him right now, and he's not going to rearrange others for him. That matters not bc the rearranging will be done by father time whether he's ready for it or not. We will need more scoring from him once Manu retires.

kyle anderson is only useful in the d league

Dro210
04-09-2016, 04:53 PM
When he shoots like 100% of the time it's called no post game. Sorry dude. :lol

A post game is being able to play with your back to the basket inside, it's not a layup drill. That shot he gets out of it from 8' is his best shot on the court..... This is simple stuff here. He's a guard, he's not Diaw... He's also always looking to pass first out of it. He's always looking to pass first in every situation right now. If you wanna say he should be more aggressive and just put his head down and go straight to work when he really has a mouse, I can go with that.

dabom
04-09-2016, 04:55 PM
A post game is being able to play with your back to the basket inside, it's not a layup drill. That shot he gets out of it from 8' is his best shot on the court..... This is simple stuff here. He's a guard, he's not Diaw.

I don't think you understand. He shoots the jumpshot because he can't do anything else. No post-up game at all. If someone actually game planned against him he would be shut down all the time.

SAGirl
04-09-2016, 04:56 PM
A post game is being able to play with your back to the basket inside, it's not a layup drill. That shot he gets out of it from 8' is his best shot on the court..... This is simple stuff here. He's a guard, he's not Diaw.
Daboom is not worth engaging in discussion. Just FYI. Unless you wanted to talk about Kawhi's greatness. Otherwise he will infuriate you with his ignorance coupled with childish insults.

dabom
04-09-2016, 04:57 PM
Daboom is not worth engaging in discussion. Just FYI. Unless you wanted to talk about Kawhi's greatness. Otherwise he will infuriate you with his ignorance coupled with childish insults.

:lol

SAGirl
04-09-2016, 04:58 PM
You are one of the few I have on ignore Daboom.

dabom
04-09-2016, 04:59 PM
O and by the way SAGirl, you can call me part of the ONE percent of BB knowledge here. You don't come close. :lol

SAGirl
04-09-2016, 05:00 PM
No need to cite me, since I don't read you daboom
You are free to keep trolling on, just don't want you to get your hopes up that I read anything you post FYI.

dabom
04-09-2016, 05:02 PM
You don't need to reply to me. Everyone can read the thread and make judgement. I have Tons of haters. You can bet they would bump anything wrong in my assessments. Hasn't worked out to well for them. :lmao

Dro210
04-09-2016, 05:04 PM
Daboom is not worth engaging in discussion. Just FYI. Unless you wanted to talk about Kawhi's greatness. Otherwise he will infuriate you with his ignorance coupled with childish insults.

:lol I'm uninfuriatable... not bothered by random internet people who don't know wtf they're talking about. Word tho :toast

I do love to talk about Kawhi's greatness tho. I'm the OG in that catagory tbh.


O and by the way SAGirl, you can call me part of the ONE percent of BB knowledge here. You don't come close. :lol


:rollin

Good stuff.

dabom
04-09-2016, 05:05 PM
This is like me trying to post up and not getting anything good and taking a jumper. :lmao

Can anyone describe other things he does well posting up? :lmao

dabom
04-09-2016, 05:08 PM
:lol I'm uninfuriatable... not bothered by random internet people who don't know wtf they're talking about. Word tho :toast




:rollin

Good stuff.

So now KA has a post up game?

http://i.imgur.com/PM6TWSx.gif

tholdren
04-09-2016, 05:09 PM
to be honest, posters who "ignore" others are the worst type. Defeats the purpose of free speech or forums.

dabom
04-09-2016, 05:12 PM
to be honest, posters who "ignore" others are the worst type. Defeats the purpose of free speech or forums.

There is no problem with ignoring someone. But it looks ugly when you don't defend your viewpoint. Kinda the reason why you said it in the first place, to defend your point.

tholdren
04-09-2016, 05:13 PM
There is no problem with ignoring someone. But it looks ugly when you don't defend your viewpoint. Kinda the reason why you said it in the first place, to defend your point.

To me, ignoring makes it seem like you are unwilling to listen to the opposing viewpoint due to emotions being out of control. take a xanax, then un-ignore

Dro210
04-09-2016, 05:17 PM
So now KA has a post up game?

Yea, did you miss our conversation? It's what I've been saying literally since the first post... No wonder you've got 9k posts. They're all irrelevant, Chump-level circle talk. Can't even comprehend what's being said to you. Trying desperately to get the last word and posting memes will never make you right either. It's more of an age old message board defense mechanism. I'm pretty confident in my opinion, so I guess this is your last post here.


I'll see you down the road when I'm reminding you that I'm the Godfather of recognizing Kawhi's greatness, and you're just a bastard son to me... son.

dabom
04-09-2016, 05:20 PM
Yea, did you miss our conversation? It's what I've even saying literally since the first post... No wonder you've got 9k posts. They're all irrelevant, Chump-level circle talk. Can't even comprehend what's being said to you. Trying desperately to get the last word and posting memes will never make you right either. It's more of an age old message board defense mechanism. I'm pretty confident in my opinion, so I guess this is your last post here.


I'll see you down the road when I'm reminding you that I'm the Godfather of recognizing Kawhi's greatness, and you're just a bastard son to me... son.

Your the only person saying he has a post game faggot. :lmao

No one can take you serious with shitty takes like that. :lmao

Obstructed_View
04-09-2016, 07:31 PM
oh my

Not sure what else you'd call a game where all those rotation players sat out.

tholdren
04-09-2016, 08:19 PM
Not sure what else you'd call a game where all those rotation players sat out.
just another spurs game, maybe?

ace3g
04-09-2016, 11:32 PM
I wonder if Pop will try Anderson in the Diaw starting role tomorrow against the Warriors? Parker, Green, Kawhi, Mr. Anderson, LA

Mnky
04-10-2016, 12:28 AM
Kyle played horrible early on. People pointed it out. He's playing better now. People can point it out. It doesn't make some great transition or growth he has gone through. He has abilities. For some reason people say pop plays him in a uncomfortable spot. Not really. You're an NBA player. You don't have the luxury of just doing a couple things good. Especially not on a contender. You have to bring effort in every facet. He's been upping his effort and I'm honestly more comfortable with the ball in his hands against the warriors than manu. Manu has a tendency to force the issue with them lately, which you don't need. That plays to their strengths.

Kyle is slower with his decisions, and much more careful, which is good. He doesn't have a great post game, but he recognizes the smaller player on him and tries to make things happen. He needs to convert those at a high rate though since there really isn't any chance a pg or small sg can block his shot. He needs to keep shooting open shots. It'll keep him on the court. They double kawhi and Aldridge all the time even if it's just a little help. Leaves players open who need to take advantage of it. Whoever makes those shots will get the playoff minutes. Been converting at an abysmal rate off of doubles.

SAGirl
04-10-2016, 01:41 AM
I wonder if Pop will try Anderson in the Diaw starting role tomorrow against the Warriors? Parker, Green, Kawhi, Mr. Anderson, LA
Maybe. He really needs as much experience as Pop can spare him, but TD also needs his time and his reps. Pop will still probably match up TD/Bogut. Give a chance to Timmy for a better game than the one at Oracle.

There will be minutes available even if he doesn't start so it doesn't matter. We could see Kmart too since he's been scoring well, earlier than the last game.

tholdren
04-10-2016, 08:52 AM
Start tim kyle kevin kl parker.

TrainOfThought5
04-10-2016, 10:14 AM
He's ok. He's not like Simmons, with that d-league mentality "gotta get det contract" slave rage out of fucking control black anger shit.

Wtf??? Simmons plays with energy the same as Faried, Draymond Green, Westbrook and patty.

Dont let your racism inspire shitty takes.

DMC
04-10-2016, 12:00 PM
Wtf??? Simmons plays with energy the same as Faried, Draymond Green, Westbrook and patty.

Dont let your racism inspire shitty takes.
Simmons is an out of control train wreck (see what I did there?). He cannot even drive the ball without turning it over and he's D-league material.