"Start Paddy" Krew :lmao

[midnightpulp]

mid doesn't know what he's talking about. and just still keeps talking.

What a cute deflection.

You spent a shitload of time ITT arguing with me about Patty being the better option than Tony. Then the OKC series rolled around, Tony was significantly better, and you needed to wait til the new season to bump, when you don't even know my current opinion yet.

As my nigga benefactor said, "You're the stupidest faggot on this site."

[gambit1990]

So desperate :lol
you didn't watch the game, remember?

[Obstructed_View]

Patty coming hard for that number one spot. Tony's got to be worried now.

He's in a contract year, he's healthy, and Parker's on the decline. This is the time for him to make his case.

[midnightpulp]

you didn't watch the game, remember?

So?

Can you get it through your thick skull that I have NO OPINION on the Parker vs. Patty debate yet. It's a new season, and it's the first fuckin' game.

Last season, however, my take was 100% correct, while you were 100% wrong, as shown by Patty's steaming pile of shit performance in the playoffs.

[gambit1990]

you didn't watch the game, remember?

So?
:lmao

[midnightpulp]

:lmao

"We should start Patty over Parker." - Gambit1990, Spring 2016.

http://oi68.tinypic.com/dxea9s.jpg

:lmao

Like I said, I'm 100% right :hat

[gambit1990]

"We should start Patty over Parker." - Gambit1990, Spring 2016.
nothing has changed, i'm still for starting patty.

read the title of the thread.

[midnightpulp]

nothing has changed, i'm still for starting patty.

read the title of the thread.

Maybe that take will be good this year.

Last year, it was retarded. And, as proven by cold hard stats, I was correct.

This season, I don't know yet. Try waiting to bump until then. I know you're desperate to "get" me, but this was pretty pathetic.

[gambit1990]

Maybe that take will be good this year.

Last year, it was retarded. And, as proven by cold hard stats, I was correct.

This season, I don't know yet. Try waiting to bump until then. I know you're desperate to "get" me, but this was pretty pathetic.
you are the gutter. i don't give a shit about "getting" you. get over yourself, your shit takes show how shitty of a poster you are. you prove it yourself.

[midnightpulp]

you are the gutter. i don't give a shit about "getting" you. get over yourself, your shit takes show how shitty of a poster you are. you prove it yourself.

Yeah you do.

Otherwise you wouldn't have bumped a thread that was dead for six months, singling out a take I made last season, a take that was correct, BTW.

I mean, your first action after tonight's game wasn't to celebrate a huge win. It was to bump my (correct) take :lol

[gambit1990]

Yeah you do.

Otherwise you wouldn't have bumped a thread that was dead for six months, singling out a take I made last season, a take that was correct, BTW.

I mean, your first action after tonight's game wasn't to celebrate a huge win. It was to bump my (correct) take :lol
your opinion was shit a long time ago. it will remain to be.

[midnightpulp]

your opinion was shit a long time ago. it will remain to be.

How can an opinion that was right be shit?

Feel free to prove me wrong. Basketball-reference is good for this kind of thing. Maybe show me a statistical comparison between the two over an important playoff series?

Like this:

http://oi68.tinypic.com/dxea9s.jpg

[gambit1990]

mid is an truly incredible type of stupid.

[gambit1990]

from may:

our offense needs to be shifted.

parker with the ball gives us less of an advantage than kawhi with the ball.

i start patty in part because he holds on to the ball less than parker, meaning the ball would be in the hands of kawhi more. where it belongs.

the offense needs to be ran through kawhi.
:claw

[SAGirl]

Sucks if we have to lose Patty this offseason tbh. He should be starting.He might put the pressure on Pop. He wants a role and $ and probably deserves it. I am sure his agent can get him things. Same as Manu's agent got him 14 million but in reality could have been more from the 76ers. Patty will get paid. We shall see, season is early.

[ElNono]

:lmao...

[DenialTwist]

Patty Mills will walk if he doesn't get more minutes or that starting position. He DESERVES it. Next summer he is going to get a big paycheck from another team just watch. Parker is not worth 14 million as a starting pg.

[DarrinS]

R.I.P. TheSadYacht

[Perry Mason]

I think people here would be thrilled if Patty played well enough to take over the starting role, assuming that the bench would not lose its effectiveness.

But last year, it just wasn't the case. This year, I defer to Pop's decision.

So far, TP has looked sluggish, and seems to wake up for only 1 or 2 quarters (at least the first two games). But that starting unit generally could use more off-ball moving and cutting to start games. TP needs to set that example early.

But yeah Gambit you are shitposter. Mid wiped the floor with you.

[GSH]

Patty in the postgame talking about how much he enjoys playing with LMA and Pau. I didn't catch the whole thing. He may have said the same about Kawhi. (I bet he didn't mention Kyle. :lol) But he was making a subtle case.

Pop may ask him to keep playing with the second team, and point to Manu. But, yeah, if he keeps playing like this, he's going to get paid. And one way or another, this will be his last season to back up Tony.

[raybies]

Patty in the postgame talking about how much he enjoys playing with LMA and Pau. I didn't catch the whole thing. He may have said the same about Kawhi. (I bet he didn't mention Kyle. :lol) But he was making a subtle case.

Pop may ask him to keep playing with the second team, and point to Manu. But, yeah, if he keeps playing like this, he's going to get paid. And one way or another, this will be his last season to back up Tony.
Sucks cause he's the perfect piece for what we currently have. Hate to lose him. I think this will be one of those things where business is business checks in. Tony doesn't deserve the same respect as Timmy does he? I mean, so far he's not showing the ability to adjust to his role. He still has a lot of moments where he tries to get himself involved. In the SL everything should be ran thru KL then LMA then PAU then Tony, and on every possession.

[TheGreatYacht]

No bump today, faggots?

[resistanze]

:lol Patty was atrocious....dear god.

[dabom]

We missed Danny Green. Ain't no one missing porker. :lmao

[dabom]

Porker has been garbage all season. :lmao

[pgardn]

We don't have a point.

Tony does the best job at it but it's not good enough. Putting Patty at the position is not fair to the player. Anyone going against Paul is going to look bad on our team if they have to guard him and play point. Bad matchup.

[TheGreatYacht]

:lol Patty was atrocious....dear god.
Can't wait till he stat pads against a lottery team

[dabom]

Anyone still thinking Porker is an NBA player. :lmao

[dabom]

Can't wait till he stat pads against a lottery team

Guess you missed the 2015 Playoffs. :lmao

[HarlemHeat37]

Patty is probably the best backup PG in the NBA, but he doesn't have the necessarily skills to be a starting PG, tbh..he's perfect as a bench gunner that can play with the starting unit for stretches in good matchups..

Currently, the Spurs have a great backup PG(Patty) and possibly another decent backup PG in Tony if he could fit with the bench unit and/or accept a backup role..unfortunately, having 2 PGs that are better suited for bench roles is pointless:lol

[midnightpulp]

Patty is probably the best backup PG in the NBA, but he doesn't have the necessarily skills to be a starting PG, tbh..he's perfect as a bench gunner that can play with the starting unit for stretches in good matchups..

Currently, the Spurs have a great backup PG(Patty) and possibly another decent backup PG in Tony if he could fit with the bench unit and/or accept a backup role..unfortunately, having 2 PGs that are better suited for bench roles is pointless:lol

:tu

[DarrinS]

The gimp wii be back shortly

[dabom]

Patty is probably the best backup PG in the NBA, but he doesn't have the necessarily skills to be a starting PG, tbh..he's perfect as a bench gunner that can play with the starting unit for stretches in good matchups..

Currently, the Spurs have a great backup PG(Patty) and possibly another nice backup PG in Tony if he could fit with the bench unit and/or accept a backup role..unfortunately, having 2 quality backup PGs is pointless:lol

Spurs need to get CP3. Dude is a monster.

Also, when you compare Patty and Porker. It's a no brainer who is the better player/starting PG.

[HarlemHeat37]

Spurs need to get CP3. Dude is a monster.

Also, when you compare Patty and Porker. It's a no brainer who is the better player/starting PG.

Yep..would be interesting, as his game should age very well, but kind of risky to bank on a player in his 30s(especially since Aldridge is the same age)..

[dabom]

Yep..would be interesting, as his game should age very well, but kind of risky to bank on a player in his 30s(especially since Aldridge is the same age)..

Aldridge would benefit the most from this actually. He would get open jumpers all day from his sweet spot and would be 3rd banana. I'm not saying LMA cannot be 2nd banana, just saying in the future he would be best for this role.

[gilmor]

Spurs not wining anything this year without a credible starting PG.. CP3 or bust..

[Clipper Nation]

If Porker played, we'd have beaten the Spurs by 40, tbh.

[sasaint]

Spurs not wining anything this year without a credible starting PG.. CP3 or bust..

Spurs would have to show a lot more than they did tonight to entice CP3 to jump from the Clips to the team they just trounced.

[SASdynasty!]

Lol Mills as a starting PG.

[ElNono]

Patty is probably the best backup PG in the NBA, but he doesn't have the necessarily skills to be a starting PG, tbh..he's perfect as a bench gunner that can play with the starting unit for stretches in good matchups..

Currently, the Spurs have a great backup PG(Patty) and possibly another decent backup PG in Tony if he could fit with the bench unit and/or accept a backup role..unfortunately, having 2 PGs that are better suited for bench roles is pointless:lol

I think he's fine in the SL, tbh, at least until LDN comes back... he's going to struggle defensively against top of the line PGs, but that's going to happen to every PG on the team right now.

Wish he was a bit more consistent with his shooting and picking his spots though. He can look like a million dollar one night, and kinda lost the next.

[gambit1990]

patty is currently #1 in assist to turnover ratio. parker doesn't crack top 20.

patty is also 20th in TS%.

[dabom]

OP. :lmao

[SASdynasty!]

Starting Patty puts this team's ceiling at .500

[pgardn]

I think he's fine in the SL, tbh, at least until LDN comes back... he's going to struggle defensively against top of the line PGs, but that's going to happen to every PG on the team right now.

Wish he was a bit more consistent with his shooting and picking his spots though. He can look like a million dollar one night, and kinda lost the next.

Patty is.

As long as KL carries a larger load with the ball in his hands. Do you want that? Do you ant KL initiating the offense? I want it on big possessions, near the end of quarters, and the last part of the game.

Parker is more elusive with the ball than any guard on our team. He does get room. There is a reason Patty gets forced into taking tougher shots than Parker when he handles the ball as a point should. Now if Parker could just get those horribly easy jumpers to go... The D moves up, he gets an easier dish to guys like Aldridge. The threat for a layup off the dribble is too much to ask for any so called point on our team for the moment.

Fact. We don't have a decent point. Parker sitting has not allowed any one player to rise yet. We need all the help we cab get at this position. He will sit longer so maybe something happens. Simmons has shown flashes of being able to help at a non point position which is good.

[Spurs9]

Spurs look better with parker tbh

[tonight...you]

Spurs look better with parker tbh
Spurs look better doing commercials, and even those aren't great this year.

[TheGreatYacht]

Spurs look better with parker tbh
Facts

[gambit1990]

parker as a starter: 5.5 points, 4 assists
patty as a starter: 11.5 points, 5.8 assists

[Hoops Czar]

parker as a starter: 5.5 points, 4 assists
patty as a starter: 11.5 points, 5.8 assists

Parker as starter... Spurs 4-1
Mills as starter... 1-2

[gambit1990]

Parker as starter... Spurs 4-1
Mills as starter... 1-2
if parker played against the clippers he wouldn't have been guarding blake griffin.

and the houston game was a tip in away from going into overtime.

[TheGreatYacht]

Parker as starter... Spurs 4-1
Mills as starter... 1-2
Winningest Spur of all time, folks

[SASdynasty!]

Parker as starter... Spurs 4-1
Mills as starter... 1-2
The Krew prefers a .333 record to an .800 record. Pretty consistent with the rest of their analyses.

[Spurs9]

:lol

[Spurs_619]

lol cat crew :lol

[dabom]

:lmao

[spurraider21]

:lol

[HarlemHeat37]

Wow, what a 4th quarter performance..

[pgardn]

Patty on fire from deep, makes a little hesitation, freezes the D, wide open layup high speed and does not even hit the rim? What a night for patty. God bless that crazy little man.

[$pursDynasty]

I am happy we won, and happy Patty went all Gary Neal "with it" tonight. I do find it funny that if MVParker had the exact same box score, talk of November Parker, and shining against the worst team in the West would be the norm.

[DarrinS]

I am happy we won, and happy Patty went all Gary Neal "with it" tonight. I do find it funny that if MVParker had the exact same box score, talk of November Parker, and shining against the worst team in the West would be the norm.

:cry

[midnightpulp]

He's been playing great. But you can't start him. You start him, and the bench loses like 75% of its firepower. Just imagine Parker alongside Fathead, Dedmon, Simmons, and Bertans :lol

Patty in the SL would also worry about having to defer to Kawhi and LMA, so he wouldn't play as loosely as he does with the bench unit, where he is decidedly the lead dog. He's the Spurs Lou Williams, and there's nothing wrong with that.

[DarrinS]

TP looked very unenthusiastic about that win.

[313]

Patty was MIA after '14 then all of sudden comes alive in a contract year? Yeah ship this cancer out of here.

[$pursDynasty]

He's been playing great. But you can't start him. You start him, and the bench loses like 75% of its firepower. Just imagine Parker alongside Fathead, Dedmon, Simmons, and Bertans :lol

Patty in the SL would also worry about having to defer to Kawhi and LMA, so he wouldn't play as loosely as he does with the bench unit, where he is decidedly the lead dog. He's the Spurs Lou Williams, and there's nothing wrong with that.
very good point, or as ST used to say, truth nuke

[DarrinS]

Patty was MIA after '14 then all of sudden comes alive in a contract year? Yeah ship this cancer out of here.

^idiot

[SASdynasty!]

TP looked very unenthusiastic about that win.
Actually that was about as excited as I ever him get. His fist pump after Kawhi's 3, etc.

[$pursDynasty]

TP looked very unenthusiastic about that win.
It's an injury riddled Mavs team no need to pop the Dom. I am glad we won and preserved the road record though. And besides the deep bench players what Spur shows much emotion after a win???

[DarrinS]

Actually that was about as excited as I ever him get. His fist pump after Kawhi's 3, etc.

Tony is stone faced when he's not playing. :lol

[DarrinS]

It's an injury riddled Mavs team no need to pop the Dom. I am glad we won and preserved the road record though. And besides the deep bench players what Spur shows much emotion after a win???

Patty

[Snaq O'Meal]

TP looked very unenthusiastic about that win.

Can't blame TP for looking like that when Pop's rotation resulted in a shitty team performance.

[pgardn]

TP looked very unenthusiastic about that win.

He was all over Patty patting him?

What feed are you getting?

[DarrinS]

He was all over Patty patting him?

What feed are you getting?

FSSW

[Silver&Black]

He's been playing great. But you can't start him. You start him, and the bench loses like 75% of its firepower.

Bingo. If you truly want to start MVPatty then you're saying you're okay with killing our bench.

Love the guy to death, but he's fine right where he's at.

[midnightpulp]

Bingo. If you truly want to start MVPatty then you're saying you're okay with killing our bench.

Love the guy to death, but he's fine right where he's at.

His best role with the starters would be closing games, especially in games where we're behind.

[dabom]

Spurs are gonna lose leads right off the bat in the playoffs with porker starting. Patty is gonna have to be a top 3 player in the team for the Spurs to win.

[pgardn]

FSSW

We are watching the same thing.

Oh well. I was watching a time out during the hot streak.

[dabom]

Lets just add he is a role player making 3 mil expected to be a top 3 player impact wise. :lol

[ElNono]

Bingo. If you truly want to start MVPatty then you're saying you're okay with killing our bench.

Love the guy to death, but he's fine right where he's at.

I disagree with this, but not for that reason, tbh... I think the starters would actually be better served by a true 3 point threat as far as floor spacing goes, especially since our offense there is 90% post-ups and ISOs, and teams have managed pretty well so far to keep Danny neutered.

Also, arguably, Tony would look more dominant against other team benches... at least that's a common argument people try to make about Manu, tbh...

[dabom]

I disagree with this, but not for that reason, tbh... I think the starters would actually be better served by a true 3 point threat as far as floor spacing goes, especially since our offense there is 90% post-ups and ISOs, and teams have managed pretty well so far to keep Danny neutered.

Also, arguably, Tony would look more dominant against other team benches... at least that's a common argument people try to make about Manu, tbh...

There is a reason we actually blow out teams at certain times of the game. Patty is part of the "Death Lineup". Which ever 5 that might be, but he always seems to be on the floor when we do that.
That isn't just coincidence. Maybe he feeds off more space he gets playing with the starters because he isn't the single most explosive scorer on the floor that other teams need to stop.
It's a dual benefit.

[TheGreatYacht]

TP looked very unenthusiastic about that win.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDFJLXzYTmU&feature=share

You're like 60 years old bro, so I understand that vision is getting worn down... but mind pointing out which part in this he looks unenthusiastic to you?

Every time Paddy scores, there he is clapping/standing up with fist raised/rubbing Paddy in the head, etc etc

[TheGreatYacht]

He was all over Patty patting him?

What feed are you getting?
Hard for him to see on a black and white TV tbh.... Old people just need a reason to be angry. That's all

[gambit1990]

:lmao

Dude is gone this offseason. Career ended when the surgeon cut his shoulder open
after 19 games... patty mills has: a 19.6 PER, a .685 TS%, a .193 WS/48, a 0.6 VORP.

http://i.imgur.com/Z2StFLR.gif

[gambit1990]

Who cares about last playoffs?

Parker has come out of the gate strong. Build on that, and forget last year.
mid doesn't know how to learn :lmao

[dabom]

mid doesn't know how to learn :lmao

:lol

[gambit1990]

patty should be starting.

[HarlemHeat37]

He better be playing 30 MPG in the playoffs, tbh..

His flaws as a PG are obvious(he's a short SG, essentially), but he's on a different level, this season..the focus he's put into his game in a contract year:tu

[spursistan]

812529144852529152

He earned it, tbh...

[Kawhitstorm]

He better be playing 30 MPG in the playoffs, tbh..

His flaws as a PG are obvious(he's a short SG, essentially), but he's on a different level, this season..the focus he's put into his game in a contract year:tu

If he's hot then there is no reason he shouldn't play 30 minutes. Pop can play Porker 4 minutes a quarter if he insists on having him on the court.

[$pursDynasty]

Should we change this to a start Muray thread?

[dabom]

Should we change this to a start Muray thread?

Are you implying he is better than porker too? :lol

[$pursDynasty]

Oh I know that MVParker is never an option for some on ST. Trying to discern the new favorite non HOTS option.

[SASdynasty!]

Parker: 13/8 on 40% shooting and +19 overall
Mills: 2/5 on 33% shooting and -3 overall
Murray: 4/0 on 100% shooting and +3 overall

[cutewizard]

Yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyesssssssssssssssssss!

[gambit1990]

Parker: 13/8 on 40% shooting and +19 overall
Mills: 2/5 on 33% shooting and -3 overall
Murray: 4/0 on 100% shooting and +3 overall
parker: 8 assists, 4 turnovers
patty: 5 assists, 1 turnover

if someone's getting 15 shot attempts... it should be patty, not parker.

[gambit1990]

patty now has a .9 VORP :wow

tony's is now -.3 :lol

[DMX7]

Paddy Mills, AKA "The Weeknd", has been awesome this season!

[midnightpulp]

:rollin :rollin :rollin

2nd best backup PG on da team :toast

[spursistan]

GTFO :lmao

Trade his ass and get something in return :lol

[dabom]

Lottery teams. :lol

Patty always fire in the playoffs.

[midnightpulp]

GTFO :lmao

Trade his ass and get something in return :lol

:lol

[313]

package him with anderson and see what we can get.

[midnightpulp]

Lottery teams. :lol

Patty always fire in the playoffs.

The Microwave's been broken for about month now, bro.

It's more than a slump. I mean, Murray's game tonight would've been like a career best for House :lol

[dabom]

The Microwave's been broken for about month now, bro.

It's more than a slump. I mean, Murray's game tonight would've been like a career best for House :lol

He played bad the whole 2015 season and the Playoffs happened. :lol

Porker at this point not gonna do shit in the playoffs like always. :lol

[midnightpulp]

He played bad the whole 2015 season and the Playoffs happened. :lol

Porker at this point not gonna do shit in the playoffs like always. :lol

:lol Still living off the Clippers series.

'Member dat huge 4ppg on .280 3 point shooting last year against OKC?

[dabom]

:lol Still living off the Clippers series.

'Member dat huge 4ppg on .280 3 point shooting last year against OKC?

2012 Cucked by thabo. :lol

2013 Cucked by Lebron :lol

2014 Cucked by everyone but the Spurs owned everyone :lol

2015 Cucked by a one legged player :lol

2016 Cucked by OKC :lol

[Hoops Czar]

He better be playing 30 MPG in the playoffs, tbh..

His flaws as a PG are obvious(he's a short SG, essentially), but he's on a different level, this season..the focus he's put into his game in a contract year:tu

Or what, tbh? :lol I think the Spurs will be trying to win playoff games, not trying to find Paddy a max deal. His time to shine with Parker on the bench and he's completely invisible. I pity the team that has to pay his salary next season.

[TheGreatYacht]

Philly might be willing to pull the trigger now tbh :lol

He'll be the second best Aussie on the team behind Simmons

[MaNu4Tres]

While it's one great game, it's obvious Murray has tools you can't teach. He's very special.

Murray creates the most separation out of the PnR than anyone on the team. He can turn the corner whenever he wants, which is huge in manufacturing high percentage looks. He has the combination of length, size and quickness that is rare for the PG position and he's NOT a liability on the defensive end. On top of alll that, he has a Kawhi-like work ethic ( which is huge). He has a lot that Patty has never had. Patty is a great shooter and that's the extent of his positives.

Spurs could use him this playoff run on both ends. Spurs have to be very excited about him.

[HarlemHeat37]

Or what, tbh? :lol I think the Spurs will be trying to win playoff games, not trying to find Paddy a max deal. His time to shine with Parker on the bench and he's completely invisible. I pity the team that has to pay his salary next season.

Spurs will need Mills to play big playoff minutes once Parker has his inevitable injury and decline..this forum overreacts to every slump/hot stretch:lol (especially the posters who only show up when it's convenient for their agendas)

[dabom]

Spurs will need Mills to play big playoff minutes once Parker has his inevitable injury and decline..this forum overreacts to every slump/hot stretch:lol (especially the posters who only show up when it's convenient for their agendas)

:lol

[midnightpulp]

Spurs will need Mills to play big playoff minutes once Parker has his inevitable injury and decline..this forum overreacts to every slump/hot stretch:lol (especially the posters who only show up when it's convenient for their agendas)

Slumps usually last like 3-5 games max. Patty has been godawful for a month and is showing no signs of improvement. If anything, it's Patty fans who kind of overreact. He lights up the shitty Mavs for 20 and suddenly he's the 2nd coming of Isiah Thomas.

I like the guy, but the fascination with him baffles me. He's still living off the 2014 Finals and the 2015 First Round. It's Speedy Claxton syndrome all over again.

[$pursDynasty]

No agenda here very excited about the aspect of Dijon getting more run

[Hoops Czar]

Spurs will need Mills to play big playoff minutes once Parker has his inevitable injury and decline..this forum overreacts to every slump/hot stretch:lol (especially the posters who only show up when it's convenient for their agendas)

Touche.... :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

:lol "slump"

dude has been trash since 2014

[dabom]

That slump and Patty still number 40 in the league in RPM. :lmao

[$pursDynasty]

That slump and Patty still number 40 in the league in RPM. :lmao
whatever stat that says Patty is balling recently is a flawed one

[HarlemHeat37]

Slumps usually last like 3-5 games max. Patty has been godawful for a month and is showing no signs of improvement. If anything, it's Patty fans who kind of overreact. He lights up the shitty Mavs for 20 and suddenly he's the 2nd coming of Isiah Thomas.

I like the guy, but the fascination with him baffles me. He's still living off the 2014 Finals and the 2015 First Round. It's Speedy Claxton syndrome all over again.
Mills is not a legit starting PG(although I wouldn't be surprised if he's starting for a shitty team next year), but there's a very likely chance that he will be the Spurs best option in the playoffs IMO..

Parker of the past few weeks is a much better option, but I have no reason to believe that the Spurs will get anywhere near that type of production from him in April..

[midnightpulp]

That slump and Patty still number 40 in the league in RPM. :lmao

Didn't you see the RPM thread?

We've already came to a consensus that RPM is good when it's used specifically, i.e. the evaluation of players in their role on their team. Patty's high mark means he's exceptional at lighting up players like Kris Dunn and Marcelo Huertas, but there's not enough data to see how he performs against real players.

Murray's first real game against a starting NBA lineup and he had a game that would've ranked as House's career best :lol

[gambit1990]

i'm still for patty starting over parker. fine with murray starting over parker too.

[dabom]

Didn't you see the RPM thread?

We've already came to a consensus that RPM is good when it's used specifically, i.e. the evaluation of players in their role on their team. Patty's high mark means he's exceptional at lighting up players like Kris Dunn and Marcelo Huertas, but there's not enough data to see how he performs against real players.

Murray's first real game against a starting NBA lineup and he had a game that would've ranked as House's career best :lol

Patty actually has some great Playoff games. what are you smoking? :lol

[dabom]

i'm still for patty starting over parker. fine with murray starting over parker too.

[midnightpulp]

Mills is not a legit starting PG(although I wouldn't be surprised if he's starting for a shitty team next year), but there's a very likely chance that he will be the Spurs best option in the playoffs IMO..

Parker of the past few weeks is a much better option, but I have no reason to believe that the Spurs will get anywhere near that type of production from him in April..

I'm surprised you're not willing to gamble on more Simmons/Murray. We both know that Patty/Manu is simply not enough backup backcourt firepower to matchup with Iggy/Livingston/staggered lineups featuring Klay/Curry.

Playing projects like Murray and Simmons may blow up in our faces, but I see no other choice.

[midnightpulp]

Patty actually has some great Playoff games. what are you smoking? :lol

So did Steve Kerr...

[dabom]

So did Steve Kerr...

We're comparing Patty and Dejounte's best performances though... :lmao

[HarlemHeat37]

I'm surprised you're not willing to gamble on more Simmons/Murray. We both know that Patty/Manu is simply not enough backup backcourt firepower to matchup with Iggy/Livingston/staggered lineups featuring Klay/Curry.

Playing projects like Murray and Simmons may blow up in our faces, but I see no other choice.

I don't have a problem with Simmons playing more in the playoffs..there will be plenty of stretches where Manu sucks and Simmons will need to play a role..

I would have to see way more of Murray to think he's ready, though..playing the PG position in the playoffs is a different animal..

[Hoops Czar]

We're comparing Patty and Dejounte's best performances though... :lmao

So did Gary Neal.

[Kawhitstorm]

Mills is not a legit starting PG(although I wouldn't be surprised if he's starting for a shitty team next year), but there's a very likely chance that he will be the Spurs best option in the playoffs IMO..

Murray is going to get the '14 CoJo treatment where he would get burns against certain matchups & Patty shouldn't play more than 20 minutes b/c he's going to get exposed against a shortened rotation.

40 minutes b/w Patty/Porker & 5-8 minutes for Murray could be the PG rotation.

[midnightpulp]

We're comparing Patty and Dejounte's best performances though... :lmao

We can't compare Murray's playoff performances because he hasn't had any :lol

As for regular season, Murray's game tonight would've been a career highlight for House :lol

It took Murray, what, one start to do it?

[dabom]

We can't compare Murray's playoff performances because he hasn't had any :lol

As for regular season, Murray's game tonight would've been a career highlight for House :lol

It took Murray, what, one start to do it?

Do you even watch the Spurs? :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

Sayonara!

http://ww1.hdnux.com/photos/42/46/50/9071160/5/1024x1024.jpg

I'm sure he'll be great dribbling down the court and handing it off to someone else!

[gambit1990]

It took Murray, what, one start to do it?

Do you even watch the Spurs? :lol
:lmao:lmao:lmao

[midnightpulp]

Do you even watch the Spurs? :lol

It was his first real start where he wasn't an an ultra short leash.

[dabom]

It was his first real start where he wasn't an an ultra short leash.

People can see why you a faggot, but don't make it more obvious. :lol

[gambit1990]

mid moving the goalpost like usual :lol

[midnightpulp]

People can see why you a faggot, but don't make it more obvious. :lol

He only played a combined 35 minutes in his last two starts. :lol

Yes, I watch the Spurs, which is why I know those "starts" are incomplete games at best for evaluation.

Just take the L, bro. Think we found a better backup PG than House.

[TheGreatYacht]

He only played a combined 35 minutes in his last two starts. :lol

Yes, I watch the Spurs, which is why I know those "starts" are incomplete games at best for evaluation.

Just take the L, bro. Think we found a better backup PG than House.
:cry house to the rescue :cry

1/5 shooting, -12

[dabom]

mid moving the goalpost like usual :lol

"Semantics". :lol

[midnightpulp]

Dabom and Gambit melting down.

They really love House, don't they?

[dabom]

Look brah. Take the :lma. :lol

[gambit1990]

mid being wrong means he'll move the goalpost. and then after that he'll say you're melting down :lol

i'm not melting down, i'm laughing at how stupid you are.

[midnightpulp]

mid being wrong means he'll move the goalpost. and then after that he'll say you're melting down :lol

i'm not melting down, i'm laughing at how stupid you are.

You're obviously bothered about Murray upstaging your boy.

A reasonable poster who is a Spurs fan first would've simply replied: "Damn. That's impressive."

Who really cares if it was one start or three? Point is, Murray basically had a game that would be on House's shortlist of career games in his first game getting starters minutes. Simple as that.

And for some reason, you and the helmets can't handle it :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

Parker, Murray, and MVFatty's highlights against Denver this season
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwfeRDT2MKA&feature=share
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74X6L0f1sMk&feature=share
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVb1bOPIwoc&feature=share

[midnightpulp]

Parker, Murray, and MVFatty's highlights against Denver this season
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwfeRDT2MKA&feature=share
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74X6L0f1sMk&feature=share
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVb1bOPIwoc&feature=share

:lol

[tim_duncan_fan]

So Patty's one 3 didn't help stymie a run toward the end?

Ok.

[gambit1990]

You're obviously bothered about Murray upstaging your boy.
:lmao

now you're just making stuff up, it's fucking pathetic.

[Pocho La Pantera]

Parker, Murray, and MVFatty's highlights against Denver this season
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwfeRDT2MKA&feature=share
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74X6L0f1sMk&feature=share
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVb1bOPIwoc&feature=sharehahahaha

[SuperCam]

terrible, tbh

[TheGreatYacht]

terrible, tbh
Short bus :lmao

[SuperCam]

3-10 2 assists no defense smh can't :downspin:that one paddy krew

[dabom]

Closed out the game cause Cancer was cancer'ing. :lol

[dabom]

8 rebounds. :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

3-10 2 assists no defense smh can't :downspin:that one paddy krew
:cry but he closed out on a loss :cry

[Spurs9]

:cry

[TheGreatYacht]

:lmao

[ElNono]

damn, bringing us down from 26 in the 3rd... aussie gonna get dem greenbacks...

[dabom]

:lmao

[UZER]

If Danny green can just get on track, Spurs would be on a another level.

[emanueldavidginobili]

The Spurs are 30-1 when mills scores in double figures, that's mind boggling. Just score 10 points god damn it.

[Ice009]

The Spurs are 30-1 when mills scores in double figures, that's mind boggling. Just score 10 points god damn it.

Well, if he starts, I think that is possible.

I was actually thinking about it during the Thunder game, but why not just start him, especially when TP is out? I mean, I don't see why always bringing him off the bench is the best way to go to supposedly keep that bench unit intact. I think he'd get a better offensive rhythm starting. Does anyone agree with that?

I like having Murray out there because I think he's got superior defensive potential, but if you'd prefer offense and a better chance for Mills to get in a good offensive rhythm, you probably should be starting him rather than keeping him with the bench unit all the time.

[dabom]

Well, if he starts, I think that is possible.

I was actually thinking about it during the Thunder game, but why not just start him, especially when TP is out? I mean, I don't see why always bringing him off the bench is the best way to go to supposedly keep that bench unit intact. I think he'd get a better offensive rhythm starting. Does anyone agree with that?

I like having Murray out there because I think he's got superior defensive potential, but if you'd prefer offense and a better chance for Mills to get in a good offensive rhythm, you probably should be starting him rather than keeping him with the bench unit all the time.

"He needs to get over himself" - :pop:

[Ice009]

If Mills and Green can start shooting the ball with consistency, this Spurs team will be really good. Oh, and we really need Kawhi and LMA back healthy. Put all that together and this team can be really, really good.

[dabom]

The Spurs are 30-1 when mills scores in double figures, that's mind boggling. Just score 10 points god damn it.

That's 3 losses the whole year max on average. :wow

[gambit1990]

Who cares about last playoffs?

Parker has come out of the gate strong. Build on that, and forget last year.
forget last year's playoffs the way mid forgets about his shitty takes.

[140]

forget last year's playoffs the way mid forgets about his shitty takes.
:lol damn

[midnightpulp]

http://oi63.tinypic.com/nfi87a.jpg

[TheGreatYacht]

http://oi63.tinypic.com/nfi87a.jpg
:wow

[midnightpulp]

:wow

:lol Tony even shot better than him from 3.

[gambit1990]

http://oi63.tinypic.com/nfi87a.jpg

Who cares about last playoffs?
try making up your mind faggot :lmao

[midnightpulp]

try making up your mind faggot :lmao

I post that as an example because all you morons thought Patty was gonna be the solution to the Parker problem.

So what happened?

If that series didn't humble your ass, then nothing will.

[gambit1990]

I post that as an example because all you morons thought Patty was gonna be the solution to the Parker problem.

So what happened?

If that series didn't humble your ass, then nothing will.
patty was definitely the solution to the parker problem last night.

and since you're so keen on spurs v okc... tp has shot 28.6% against them this year. patty? 41.2%.

[dabom]

Patty in the last 4 years in the playoffs is better than anything porker has done. And that's including the okc series. Mid being a faggot per pax. :lol

[gambit1990]

march was the toughest month of the regular season. we played HOU, OKC (x 2), GSW (x 2), MEM (x 2), CLE. let's take a look at the numbers:




FG%
3P%
AST
TO
PPG


tony
.387
.278
3.4
1.6
6.9


patty
.428
.396
4.2
1.1
10.0





bonus: here's a look at their numbers over the whole season:




FG%
3P%
AST
TO
PPG


tony as a starter
.458
.338
4.6
1.4
9.9


patty as a starter
.479
.442
6.0
0.9
13.6




parker is the biggest liability on the team and should be treated as such.

do i play him over forbes? okay, you got me. i play parker over forbes.
do i play him over murray? nope.
do i start him over patty? nope.
do i want him taking less shots than kawhi, lma, gasol, and patty? you fucking bet.

all parker should be doing is practicing his 3 point shot. let him play 15 minutes every other playoff game... there's been moments this season where parker shows his vintage burst of speed. he should be lightning in a bottle off the bench, look to attack. he can't probe like nash or cp3, should stop acting like a game manager.

[hater]

Fatty Chills cant play vs Staring PGs thou

Dont lie to yourselves spursfans

[gambit1990]

Fatty Chills cant play vs Staring PGs thou
you acting like tony can :lmao

[dabom]

The starting lineup with Porker. Meager net rating...

L.Aldridge, P.Gasol, D.Green, K.Leonard, T.Parker
7.3 Net Rating

L.Aldridge, D.Dedmon, D.Green, K.Leonard, T.Parker
8.4 Net Rating


The lineup looks like its on steroids with Patty. :wow

L.Aldridge, P.Gasol, D.Green, K.Leonard, P.Mills
23.3 Net Rating
:wow

L.Aldridge, D.Dedmon, D.Green, K.Leonard, P.Mills
14.3 Net Rating
:wow

http://stats.nba.com/lineups/advanced/#!?Season=2016-17&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&TeamID=1610612759&sort=MIN&dir=1



Shut it down. :worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy::w orthy::worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy::wor thy:

[gambit1990]

but tony shot good against the nuggets and the wolves :madrun:madrun:madrun

[SpursforSix]

you acting like tony can :lmao

Exactly. At least with Patty, there is some upside if he's hot. With Tony, the upside has diminished to maybe 8 points (on 3/8), 2 assists, 3 turnovers, and only getting beat off the dribble 8 times.

[TheGreatYacht]

Spurs are 4-3 when Fatty Grills starts. :lol and one of those wins came against the Santa Cruz Warriors

[gambit1990]

FG%
3P%
AST
TO
PPG


tony as a starter
.458
.338
4.6
1.4
9.9


patty as a starter
.479
.442
6.0
0.9
13.6

[dabom]

Porker fluffers. :lol

@mid :lol

[gambit1990]

Porker fluffers. :lol

@mid :lol
the "start tony" clique :lol

[dabom]

the "start tony" clique :lol

"pulls me back in" :lol

[midnightpulp]

It's incredible how stupid you are.

Not surprised, since you indeed wear a helmet to protect that mushy brain of yours.

[140]

Porker fluffers. :lol

@mid :lol


the "start tony" clique :lol


"pulls me back in" :lol
"B-but Patty can't handle pressure"

:lmao

[Clipper Nation]

FG%
3P%
AST
TO
PPG


tony as a starter
.458
.338
4.6
1.4
9.9


patty as a starter
.479
.442
6.0
0.9
13.6




http://i.imgur.com/eXeh74n.gif

[Chris]

Besides the fact that opposing PG's are literally salivating when they see Patty guarding them. That 'ole' defense that Steve Nash won 2 MVP's with. We don't run D'Antoni's fun and gun system so Patty is a liability defensively every time he plays. He makes up for it with his accuracy and his hustle, but he will never be a starter under Pop.

[99 Problems]

Little General looking like Meadowlark again. He gunna lead us to the final four against Tar Heels. Oops I mean Wcf against Blazers lol.

[jbspurs]

Besides the fact that opposing PG's are literally salivating when they see Patty guarding them. That 'ole' defense that Steve Nash won 2 MVP's with. We don't run D'Antoni's fun and gun system so Patty is a liability defensively every time he plays. He makes up for it with his accuracy and his hustle, but he will never be a starter under Pop.


Patty negative on defense, positive offense > Parker negative defense and offense. Parker can't create anymore. He's done!

[midnightpulp]

The starting lineup with Porker. Meager net rating...

L.Aldridge, P.Gasol, D.Green, K.Leonard, T.Parker
7.3 Net Rating

L.Aldridge, D.Dedmon, D.Green, K.Leonard, T.Parker
8.4 Net Rating


The lineup looks like its on steroids with Patty. :wow

L.Aldridge, P.Gasol, D.Green, K.Leonard, P.Mills
23.3 Net Rating
:wow

L.Aldridge, D.Dedmon, D.Green, K.Leonard, P.Mills
14.3 Net Rating
:wow

http://stats.nba.com/lineups/advanced/#!?Season=2016-17&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&TeamID=1610612759&sort=MIN&dir=1



Shut it down. :worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy::w orthy::worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy::wor thy:







Time to blow you up, again.

Seriously, do you and your lover Gambit ever think anything through? So your cute start House fantasy comes true AND THEN WHAT? What do you with Parker? I've asked this question before and I get *crickets*.

"He can come off the bench for 15 minutes."

:lmao House playing 33 min per against Western Conference playoff team starting PGs.

House against Houston this season: 24.5mpg, 8.5ppg, 40%FG, 4.75apg.

Against Golden State (with Curry): 20.5mpg, 8.5ppg, 38%FG, 2.5apg.

Against the Clippers: 21mpg, 7ppg, 32%FG, 2.3apg.

Against OKC: 21mpg, 7.6ppg, 41%FG, 1.0apg.

And this is primarily against those teams' backups :lol

"I bet Porker doesn't do much better."

Parker plays the most of his minutes against the starters. But what you fail to comprehend is that even if House is, say, 20% better as the starting PG over a large sample size, Tony would probably be 100% worse off the bench. Let's look at some numbers.

2 man lineups (Tony plus one of the main bench players)

with Gasol: +7.8net

with Lee: +1.5net

with Manu: +5.8net

with Fathead: +0.6net

with Simmons: -1.1net

Avg net with all bench players: +2.92

Now Patty:

with Gasol: +9.3

with Lee: +15.7

with Manu: +12.3

with Fathead: +17.7

with Simmons: +15.9

Avg: +14.18

And most importantly, Patty's net ratings were achieved over a LARGE sample size, unlike his starting lineup net rating, achieved over 86 min and 47 min respectively. It's fuckin' nothing. So why the fuck do you want to remove a player who works obscenely well with ALL bench players to the tune of a 14.18net rating and replace him with a player that works with those same players about 11 points worse in net rating?

Here's even more simple math for you.

We KNOW Parker with the current starters is good enough for an average 8.4 net since we have a decent sample size. We KNOW House works at an average 14 net with the main bench players because we have a huge sample size. Thus, 8.4+14.18=22.58 net rating for the rotation overall.

Here's what your retarded plan looks like: House with the current starters (a 47 minute sample size :lol): 14.3 net. Parker with the main bench players: 2.9 net, = 17.2 net rating for that rotation overall.

So if we employ the "start House" idea, we risk the Spurs rotation overall dropping over 5 net rating points. And there's is ZERO evidence to the contrary that it would "work."

Shut it fuckin' down, indeed. Think next time you come at me. Goes for the other helmet, too.

[Chris]

Mid

[midnightpulp]

Patty who?

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Start Forbes

[DAF86]

How many games will it take now for Tony to have a good game again, tbh? 10, 20?

[dabom]

Utah would get cucked 4-0. Probably the only team that doesn't have a guard who can take advantage of porker. :lmao

[TheGreatYacht]

Microwave Grills krew (2 clowns) :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

How many games will it take now for Tony to have a good game again, tbh? 10, 20?
Why do Uruguayans get so mad when TP has a good game?

[midnightpulp]

Utah would get cucked 4-0. Probably the only team that doesn't have a guard who can take advantage of porker. :lmao

Utah's defense is the kind that usually shuts down Parker. Long PG + shotblocker.

See, you're a player fan. You should be happy Tony is still capable of a 20 point game. Makes everything a whole lot easier.

[midnightpulp]

Microwave Grills krew (2 clowns) :lol

:lol

[dabom]

Utah's defense is the kind that usually shuts down Parker. Long PG + shotblocker.

See, you're a player fan. You should be happy Tony is still capable of a 20 point game. Makes everything a whole lot easier.

You keep saying this. You're the player-fan. You some how fail to realize porker isn't getting better but worse and your homer glasses wont allow it. I'm the purist here. I've seen it be the problem 3 years in a row. Will be fourth this year. And LOL if you think he was good in 2014. :lmao

[midnightpulp]

You keep saying this. You're the player-fan. You some how fail to realize porker isn't getting better but worse and your homer glasses wont allow it. I'm the purist here. I've seen it be the problem 3 years in a row. Will be fourth this year. And LOL if you think he was good in 2014. :lmao

No. I'm the realist. No other PG options on this team. No choice but to root for him AND Patty. Is what it is.

[pgardn]

Manu with Patty can be a great bench combo and then if needed, to finish off games.

The Truth.

We use guards by committee.
Thats just the way it is. We need a PG. Especially for the playoffs. But our system is flexible now at guard. But it's by no means gonna scare GS nor most other playoff teams. KL, LMA, and finally PAu will have to be very good. Then we have to hope we can get serviceable guard play. With possible big scoring games from Patty, good passing by Manu and good leadership and ball handling when Parker needs to get KL and LMA going. Including knowing when to get out of the way. Or when to take the dare jumpers he is given.

[pgardn]

You keep saying this. You're the player-fan. You some how fail to realize porker isn't getting better but worse and your homer glasses wont allow it. I'm the purist here.

You...

Are a fckn clown.

Everyone sees what Parker is.
Your problem is making Patty into something he is NOT.

[DAF86]

Why do Uruguayans get so mad when TP has a good game?

I don't get mad when TP has a good game. I would give my left nut to have TP perform like this everygame because it would mean the Spurs could contend for real. I'm just countering the "pulls you back in" krew that acts like Parker is going to turn it around everytime he has one of these games once every 20 games, tbh.

[TheGreatYacht]

I don't get mad when TP has a good game. I would give my left nut to have TP perform like this everygame because it would mean the Spurs could contend for real. I'm just countering the "pulls you back in" krew that acts like Parker is going to turn it around everytime he has one of these games once every 20 games, tbh.
Lmao you're getting confused with the retards that bump that Manu 20pt thread once every season :lol....

[dabom]

I don't get mad when TP has a good game. I would give my left nut to have TP perform like this everygame because it would mean the Spurs could contend for real. I'm just countering the "pulls you back in" krew that acts like Parker is going to turn it around everytime he has one of these games once every 20 games, tbh.

:lol

[TheGreatYacht]

You...

Are a fckn clown.

Everyone sees what Parker is.
Your problem is making Patty into something he is NOT.
:lol

[midnightpulp]

I don't get mad when TP has a good game. I would give my left nut to have TP perform like this everygame because it would mean the Spurs could contend for real. I'm just countering the "pulls you back in" krew that acts like Parker is going to turn it around everytime he has one of these games once every 20 games, tbh.

What you don't get is that there is NO CHOICE but to be all in on Tony. That's the reality of the situation. I already crushed the myth that the offense (overall) would be better if House started. In addition to that, to beat Golden State it's going to take a all-hands-on-deck effort, meaning going 9-10 deep.

[dabom]

What you don't get is that there is NO CHOICE but to be all in on Tony. That's the reality of the situation. I already crushed the myth that the offense (overall) would be better if House started. In addition to that, to beat Golden State it's going to take a all-hands-on-deck effort, meaning going 9-10 deep.

I just posted the stats saying opposite. :lmao

[midnightpulp]

I just posted the stats saying opposite. :lmao

Yeah, you missed this:

Time to blow you up, again.

Seriously, do you and your lover Gambit ever think anything through? So your cute start House fantasy comes true AND THEN WHAT? What do you with Parker? I've asked this question before and I get *crickets*.

"He can come off the bench for 15 minutes."

House playing 33 min per against Western Conference playoff team starting PGs. :lmao

House against Houston this season: 24.5mpg, 8.5ppg, 40%FG, 4.75apg.

Against Golden State (with Curry): 20.5mpg, 8.5ppg, 38%FG, 2.5apg.

Against the Clippers: 21mpg, 7ppg, 32%FG, 2.3apg.

Against OKC: 21mpg, 7.6ppg, 41%FG, 1.0apg.

And this is primarily against those teams' backups

"I bet Porker doesn't do much better."

Parker plays the most of his minutes against the starters. But what you fail to comprehend is that even if House is, say, 20% better as the starting PG over a large sample size, Tony would probably be 100% worse off the bench. Let's look at some numbers.

2 man lineups (Tony plus one of the main bench players)

with Gasol: +7.8net

with Lee: +1.5net

with Manu: +5.8net

with Fathead: +0.6net

with Simmons: -1.1net

Avg net with all bench players: +2.92

Now Patty:

with Gasol: +9.3

with Lee: +15.7

with Manu: +12.3

with Fathead: +17.7

with Simmons: +15.9

Avg: +14.18

And most importantly, Patty's net ratings were achieved over a LARGE sample size, unlike his starting lineup net rating, achieved over 86 min and 47 min respectively. It's fuckin' nothing. So why the fuck do you want to remove a player who works obscenely well with ALL bench players to the tune of a 14.18net rating and replace him with a player that works with those same players about 11 points worse in net rating?

Here's even more simple math for you.

We KNOW Parker with the current starters is good enough for an average 8.4 net since we have a decent sample size. We KNOW House works at an average 14 net with the main bench players because we have a huge sample size. Thus, 8.4+14.18=22.58 net rating for the rotation overall.

Here's what your retarded plan looks like: House with the current starters (a 47 minute sample size ): 14.3 net. Parker with the main bench players: 2.9 net, = 17.2 net rating for that rotation overall.

So if we employ the "start House" idea, we risk the Spurs rotation overall dropping over 5 net rating points. And there's is ZERO evidence to the contrary that it would "work."

Shut it fuckin' down, indeed. Think next time you come at me. Goes for the other helmet, too.

tl;dr Starting Patty risks a -5 net rating drop

It was cute how thought you "got me" though. Bet you celebrated with gambit last night over some cocktails and heavy petting.

[dabom]

I just posted the stats saying opposite. :lmao

[dabom]

The starting lineup with Porker. Meager net rating...

L.Aldridge, P.Gasol, D.Green, K.Leonard, T.Parker
7.3 Net Rating


L.Aldridge, D.Dedmon, D.Green, K.Leonard, T.Parker
8.4 Net Rating


The lineup looks like its on steroids with Patty. :wow


L.Aldridge, P.Gasol, D.Green, K.Leonard, P.Mills
23.3 Net Rating

:wow


L.Aldridge, D.Dedmon, D.Green, K.Leonard, P.Mills
14.3 Net Rating

:wow


http://stats.nba.com/lineups/advanced/#!?Season=2016-17&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&TeamID=1610612759&sort=MIN&dir=1



Shut it down.
:worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy::w orthy::worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy::wor thy:









:worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy::w orthy::worthy::worthy::worthy:

[midnightpulp]

:worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy::worthy::w orthy::worthy::worthy::worthy:

I just posted stats shitting on those stats. Mine also have something called large sample sizes.

[midnightpulp]

We KNOW Parker with the current starters is good enough for an average 8.4 net since we have a decent sample size. We KNOW House works at an average 14 net with the main bench players because we have a huge sample size. Thus, 8.4+14.18=22.58 net rating for the rotation overall.

Here's what your retarded plan looks like: House with the current starters (a 47 minute sample size ): 14.3 net. Parker with the main bench players: 2.9 net, = 17.2 net rating for that rotation overall.

So if we employ the "start House" idea, we risk the Spurs rotation overall dropping over 5 net rating points. And there's is ZERO evidence to the contrary that it would "work."

[SASdynasty!]

I don't get mad when TP has a good game. I would give my left nut to have TP perform like this everygame because it would mean the Spurs could contend for real. I'm just countering the "pulls you back in" krew that acts like Parker is going to turn it around everytime he has one of these games once every 20 games, tbh.
Parker's had 15 games where he's scored 15+ points on .500 or better shooting. Every 20 games would be like 4 a season.

[dabom]

I just posted stats shitting on those stats. Mine also have something called large sample sizes.

But when you posted Patty lineups with a smaller sample size you had no problem. This is why you stay being a cuck. Your arguments/position changes when you get owned every fucking time. :lmao

[DAF86]

What you don't get is that there is NO CHOICE but to be all in on Tony. That's the reality of the situation. I already crushed the myth that the offense (overall) would be better if House started. In addition to that, to beat Golden State it's going to take a all-hands-on-deck effort, meaning going 9-10 deep.

I've never been on the "Start Patty" krew. It just makes more sense to have him coming off the bench.

However I've been, for quite a while now, on the "Tony Parker is done" krew. It's retarded to expect Tony to somehow turn it around and provide a production that he hasn't been able to provide for 2 or 3 full years now. He's done, he's not turning it around, expecting him to do so is retarded. Plain and simple.

It will obviously not happen but I seriously don't see how starting Murray over Tony would make this team any worse. What can Tony provide, at this point, that Murray can't? Slashing, shooting, defense? I guess the only thing I can come up with is the steady hand and experience to set the offense, but that's overrated as fuck and not worth denying the chance to see a potential Murray break out, imho.

But whatever, I've already made peace with the idea that we are going to war as currently constructed, so it is what it is. I just hope that we adress the PG situation for the next season, because we won't be true contenders untill we fix that major flaw.

[midnightpulp]

But when you posted Patty lineups with a smaller sample size you had no problem. This is why you stay being a cuck. Your arguments/position changes when you get owned every fucking time. :lmao

Yeah, dipshit, because the last time I posted Patty lineups was probably way earlier in the season :lol

Do you always enjoy being a stupid shit?

Fact: Patty +14 with bench players over large sample size.

Fact: Tony +8 with starters over large sample size.

Yeah, Let's change a +22 net rating rotation proven to work over a season on a whim so you can see your mancrush start.

[dabom]

207
D'Angelo Russell (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3136776/d'angelo-russell), PG
LAL
60
28.5
1.00
-1.99
-0.99
2.30


208
Dante Cunningham (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3974/dante-cunningham), PF
NO
60
25.5
-0.95
-0.05
-1.00
1.99


209
Joel Anthony (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3247/joel-anthony), C
SA
16
5.4
-2.28
1.27
-1.01
0.12


210
Marshall Plumlee (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2566748/marshall-plumlee), C
NY
16
6.4
-2.06
1.05
-1.01
0.14


211
Jonas Jerebko (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3998/jonas-jerebko), PF
BOS
72
16.1
-1.27
0.25
-1.02
1.51


212
Omer Asik (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3414/omer-asik), C
NO
31
15.5
-2.89
1.86
-1.03
0.65


213
Tomas Satoransky (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6621/tomas-satoransky), SG
WSH
53
12.2
-1.90
0.87
-1.03
0.83


214
Luis Scola (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/1781/luis-scola), PF
BKN
36
12.8
-0.80
-0.29
-1.09
0.62


215
Anderson Varejao (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2419/anderson-varejao), C
GS
14
6.6
-1.74
0.65
-1.09
0.10


216
Joakim Noah (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3224/joakim-noah), C
NY
46
22.1
-2.19
1.10
-1.09
1.30


217
Brandan Wright (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3242/brandan-wright), PF
MEM
22
15.1
-0.92
-0.22
-1.14
0.34


218
Josh Huestis (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2531364/josh-huestis), SF
OKC
1
7.0
-1.95
0.81
-1.14
0.01


219
Brice Johnson (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2982330/brice-johnson), F
LAC
2
3.5
-2.25
1.11
-1.14
0.01


220
Norman Powell (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2595516/norman-powell), SG
TOR
72
18.1
-0.34
-0.81
-1.15
1.60


221
Beno Udrih (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2448/beno-udrih), PG
DET
36
13.9
-0.97
-0.21
-1.18
0.56


222
Langston Galloway (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2530572/langston-galloway), SG
NO/SAC
69
19.5
0.29
-1.47
-1.18
1.55


223
Rakeem Christmas (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2596110/rakeem-christmas), PF
IND
25
8.7
-1.99
0.81
-1.18
0.24


224
Jordan Hill (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3994/jordan-hill), PF
MIN
6
6.8
-2.21
1.01
-1.20
0.05


225
Shabazz Napier (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/2530780/shabazz-napier), PG
POR
49
8.9
-0.77
-0.43
-1.20
0.51


226
Tony Parker (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/1015/tony-parker), PG
SA
57
25.4
-0.76
-0.46
-1.22
1.64



Getting a little better from the beginning of the year. :tu

[midnightpulp]

I've never been on the "Start Patty" krew. It just makes more sense to have him coming off the bench.

However I've been, for quite a while now, on the "Tony Parker is done" krew. It's retarded to expect Tony to somehow turn it around and provide a production that he hasn't been able to provide for 2 or 3 full years now. He's done, he's not turning it around, expecting him to do so is retarded. Plain and simple.

It will obviously not happen but I seriously don't see how starting Murray over Tony would make this team any worse. What can Tony provide, at this point, that Murray can't? Slashing, shooting, defense? I guess the only thing I can come up with is the steady hand and experience to set the offense, but that's overrated as fuck and not worth denying the chance to see a potential Murray break out, imho.

But whatever, I've already made peace with the idea that we are going to war as currently constructed, so it is what it is. I just hope that we adress the PG situation for the next season, because we won't be true contenders untill we fix that major flaw.

I wanted Murray fast-tracked as an insurance policy. Didn't happen. So it's Tony or bust (although if he sucks in the playoffs, Pop better gamble on Murray or even Forbes).

[apalisoc_9]

Nice. :lol

[dabom]

Yeah, dipshit, because the last time I posted Patty lineups was probably way earlier in the season :lol

Do you always enjoy being a stupid shit?

Fact: Patty +14 with bench players over large sample size.

Fact: Tony +8 with starters over large sample size.

Yeah, Let's change a +22 net rating rotation proven to work over a season on a whim so you can see your mancrush start.

So you agree it was a small sample size and you still used them. Faggot. :lmao

[midnightpulp]

So you agree it was a small sample size and you still used them. Faggot. :lmao

Because there was no other sample sizes at that time, helmet. The fuck else are we supposed to use?

Now we know. House is best off the bench. Deal with it.

[dabom]

:lol

[spursistan]

Can we just end this joke of thought that Patty can be a starting level PG on a contending team? :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

:lol

[TheGreatYacht]

Shooting 28.9% from the field over his last 6 games, 40% in 2017.

Buford should resign if the microwave gets offered more than 3M/yr

[spursistan]

Shooting 28.9% from the field over his last 6 games, 40% in 2017.

Buford should resign if the microwave gets offered more than 3M/yr

[spursistan]

https://i.imgur.com/fUItSNx.jpg

[spurraider21]

:wakeup

[midnightpulp]

:lmao

I expect gambit to be conspicuously absent from the forum tonight, a night where the Spurs advanced too. :lol

Faggot.

[dabom]

"Antiquated offence". :lmao

[dabom]

OP. :lmao

[140]

:lol

[gambit1990]

:lmao

Dude is gone this offseason. Career ended when the surgeon cut his shoulder open
doctors should cut both your shoulders open and leave you that way so you can't post here again.

[HarlemHeat37]

doctors should cut both your shoulders open and leave you that way so you can't post here again.

:wow

[gambit1990]

:wow
fingers crossed.

[gambit1990]

keep up the good work patty :toast

[ElNono]

:wow I'm a believer

[HarlemHeat37]

Salute to dabom and gambit and the other diehard Mills fans, tbh..

[dabom]

Salute to dabom and gambit and the other diehard Mills fans, tbh..
Thanks brah. :tu

Always ahead of these posters. :lol

[99 Problems]

:convertib

[gambit1990]

Salute to dabom and gambit and the other diehard Mills fans, tbh..

Thanks brah. :tu

Always ahead of these posters. :lol

[Pocho La Pantera]

The great faggot owned again, what a surprise:lol

[DPG21920]

Really rough - need one good 2 min stretch though.

[DPG21920]

Complete disappointment

[ElNono]

Patty was great, tbh... lot of guts at the end... we're just not going to win without Kawhi, tbh...

[gambit1990]

Patty was great, tbh... lot of guts at the end... we're just not going to win without Kawhi, tbh...
exactly.

[Spurtacular]

People still on this shit? Patty played within himself. He didn't have one of those 2-14, shitty defense Parker games.

[dabom]

We had the win in the bag. It's not on mills faggot. :lmao

[DPG21920]

exactly.

Lmao 20 point lead and Mills can't do shit