"Start Paddy" Krew :lmao

[TheGreatYacht]

:lmao

Dude is gone this offseason. Career ended when the surgeon cut his shoulder open

[313]

:lol played better with a broken shoulder

[Kool Bob Love]

:lmao

[ElNono]

:lol tbh

[Hoops Czar]

peaked in 2014

[TheGreatYacht]

Also

"Start Kyle at PG" Krew :lmao

34 minutes, 2pts, 6reb, 2ast, 1TO, 1-9 shooting, -8

[spursistan]

Dude used to eat shitty teams for breakfast on the road..:lmao

Seems like "It is Parker or bust":depressed ..

[Texas_Ranger]

are this guys the same krew as the ones that think Anderson will become a good player?

[TheGreatYacht]

Gambit1990
dabom
Auntfucker_9
CuckerNation

[Silver&Black]

10/10 thread tbh.

[RD2191]

Mills has always been overrated trash. Good dude but a shit PG imo.

[LongtimeSpursFan]

Mills >>>>>Parker. LMAO.

[spursistan]

On serious note, Spurs need to look for good young PG in the off-season who can penetrate and play solid D, tbh..no fuckin Ray Mccallum types....

[coachmac87]

People love the same team but argue about HOF player

[Texas_Ranger]

it also doesn't help he's one of the worst defenders in the NBA. He also can't run the point and when he can't make a shot he becomes worse than fucking Bonner. Make him and Green shoot for 10 hours a day in the offseason and if that won't help, this two trash cans get them the fuck out of this team.

[Ditty]

He will be fine :lol

He is shit without Manu though.

[TheGreatYacht]

Should've picked up Ty Drunkson, tbh.. Would've gotten along with RC and Pop right away

[Cry Havoc]

Mills has always been overrated trash. Good dude but a shit PG imo.

He's a good player when he isn't asked to be a PG. When the team moves the ball well, Mills becomes the defacto point but is really more of a spot up 2 guard. That plays into his strengths. He's not a starting PG by any stretch of the imagination.

[$pursDynasty]

Or make a run at DJ Augustine

[$pursDynasty]

I remember after the title worrying about losing Patty but hindsight says we might have been better off if he left

[$pursDynasty]

He's a good player when he isn't asked to be a PG. When the team moves the ball well, Mills becomes the defacto point but is really more of a spot up 2 guard. That plays into his strengths. He's not a starting PG by any stretch of the imagination.
Cry he is another Gary Neal

[RD2191]

He's a good player when he isn't asked to be a PG. When the team moves the ball well, Mills becomes the defacto point but is really more of a spot up 2 guard. That plays into his strengths. He's not a starting PG by any stretch of the imagination.
Just seems like he's off more than on these days. He's pretty worthless unless he's lighting it up from 3 imo.

[midnightpulp]

Him being inconsistent really, really hurts this team.

[100%duncan]

Him being inconsistent really, really hurts this team.

Yeah. I dont think it's anything to laugh about. We're fucked against golden state if this continues

[TheDoctor]

"3rd wheel of Spurs' new Big 3" - Pounding the Cock

[K...]

On serious note, Spurs need to look for good young PG in the off-season who can penetrate and play solid D, tbh..no fuckin Ray Mccallum types....

LOL and ponies. Look at the PG's who got drafted in the lottery. Your player doesn't exist. Not even Curry plays good defense.

[Hoops Czar]

He's a good player when he isn't asked to be a PG. When the team moves the ball well, Mills becomes the defacto point but is really more of a spot up 2 guard. That plays into his strengths. He's not a starting PG by any stretch of the imagination.

When is that?

[Keepin' it real]

Him being inconsistent really, really hurts this team.

This team is 65-14. Nothing really, really hurts them.

[SAGirl]

Cojo was a much better backup and he is doing a phenomenal job in Toronto. Kind of the only Spur I miss among guys we lost in the off-season.

That said the little dude (Mills) will play in the playoffs and we will need him to bounce back from this. He was played outside of his comfort zone and he sinked. Food for thought for Pop.

[DMC]

Patty is always on the floor with shitty bigs or guys who cannot set a pick for him (like Frankenspur). Patty's worth is in energy off the bench. He's not a defender, doesn't set decent picks, cannot finish at the rim in traffic but has a decent stroke outside and play 100mph all the time.

He's better than most starting PGs on other teams tbh. We're just trying to get that fringe percent and we simply won't.

[Ice009]

Just finished watching the game. What a fucking horrible PG he is. Undersized SG. Cost us that game against the Nuggets all by himself.

[DenialTwist]

The Hawks want to get rid of Jeff Teague. If he is available in the offseason, Spurs should go for it. Tony and Patty can play together on the bench.

[will_spurs]

He is shit without Manu though.

This.

[hater]

:lmao

[gambit1990]

didn't see last night's game.

would still start him over parker. would have miller as his backup.

[DarrinS]

Dude was shooting daggers against Miami tho

[Hoops Czar]

didn't see last night's game.

would still start him over parker. would have miller as his backup.

Anybody who didn't watch last night's game doesn't deserve to have an opinion.

[SAGirl]

didn't see last night's game.

would still start him over parker. would have miller as his backup.
That's bc you don't see him.

[gambit1990]

Anybody who didn't watch last night's game doesn't deserve to have an opinion.
:lmao

miss one game = don't deserve to have an opinion

you've never missed one game you fucking idiot?

i commented in this thread because i was mentioned in it. and i don't shy away from my takes.

[TheGreatYacht]

That's bc you don't see him.
:wow

[spursistan]

dabom avoiding this thread like the plague :lol

[spursistan]

I would rather go with Dre-Miller than Paddy chucking ass against the Warriors..not sure why Pop didn't give him cameo in this game..

[$pursDynasty]

Maybe a playoff adjustment?

[DieHardSpursFan1537]

sit 'em on the bench and replace him with bonner tbh :lol

[gambit1990]

our offense needs to be shifted.

parker with the ball gives us less of an advantage than kawhi with the ball.

i start patty in part because he holds on to the ball less than parker, meaning the ball would be in the hands of kawhi more. where it belongs.

the offense needs to be ran through kawhi.

tbh, i would even start manu. but i've been thinking about saving him for the finals... but actually maybe save him for playing golden state.

[TheGreatYacht]

our offense needs to be shifted.

parker with the ball gives us less of an advantage than kawhi with the ball.

i start patty in part because he holds on to the ball less than parker, meaning the ball would be in the hands of kawhi more. where it belongs.

the offense needs to be ran through kawhi.

tbh, i would even start manu. but i've been thinking about saving him for the finals... but actually maybe save him for playing golden state.
Offense was ran through Kawhi today, Spurs got folded like a lawn chair in the process

[gambit1990]

Offense was ran through Kawhi today, Spurs got folded like a lawn chair in the process
so he didn't have a great game offensively... what happened when the ball was in his hands in the 2014 finals?

http://static.sportskeeda.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/kawhi-leonard-1402926516.jpg

[DenialTwist]

Both Parker and Mills sucked. Guard play is/will be he downfall to the Spurs playoff hopes.

[SAGirl]

Edit was out of subject... topic.

[hater]

:lmao

[spursistan]

Mill was headed for big pay day after that Heat Finals series (remember Phil jackson and knicks liked him :lol)..that shoulder injury really fucked him up on a financial level...

[DJR210]

Should've picked up Ty Drunkson, tbh.. Would've gotten along with RC and Pop right away

:lol

[spursistan]

this dude is a hot garbage now :lol...unplayable against anybody..

it is basically "Parker or bust" for this team as far big minutes PG play (let's hope Manu can spell him at the point)..

[hater]

this dude is a hot garbage now :lol...unplayable against anybody..

it is basically "Parker or bust" for this team as far big minutes PG play (let's hope Manu can spell him at the point)..

:lmao

[TheGreatYacht]

this dude is a hot garbage now :lol...unplayable against anybody..

it is basically "Parker or bust" for this team as far big minutes PG play (let's hope Manu can spell him at the point)..
Good post bro

[gambit1990]

patty scored the same amount of points as parker. on two less shots. mills had three more rebounds. parker had four more assists but also had three more turnovers. patty had two more steals and one less foul.

[DPG21920]

Thanks for that amazing information directly from the box score but packaged in a less friendly to read format and meaningless context.

[gambit1990]

stating stats = "meaningless context" :lol

i had to explain it really basically for parker fans.

[Clipper Nation]

MVPatty would have dropped 60 as a starter against Boobie Farmar.

[gilmor]

patty scored the same amount of points as parker. on two less shots. mills had three more rebounds. parker had four more assists but also had three more turnovers. patty had two more steals and one less foul.

Even in a winning game where both players obviously played well, you still have to bitch?

Man, I pity your family members..

[gambit1990]

Even in a winning game where both players obviously played well, you still have to bitch?

Man, I pity your family members..
you seemed less stupid until you posted that tbh.

this is what op said:

:lmao

Dude is gone this offseason. Career ended when the surgeon cut his shoulder open
my point was that patty's production was not far off from parker's. it was actually better when you consider the contract.

[midnightpulp]

you seemed less stupid until you posted that tbh.

this is what op said:

my point was that patty's production was not far off from parker's. it was actually better when you consider the contract.

Since you feel like arguing tonight, you're a fuckin' moron if you think Parker's and Patty's production tonight were similar.

The "Krew" has constantly shitted on Parker for padding in garbage time. But Mills does it, and it's "MVPatty shows up for the playoffs!"

He was shit tonight until the game was out of reach, and then conveniently hit a couple of 3s. I ain't complaining, since I hope it'll waken him up.




4:41 Patty Mills enters the game for Tony Parker 49 - 68

2:32 Patty Mills makes 17-foot two point shot (David West assists) 51 - 73

2:09 Patty Mills makes free throw 1 of 2 51 - 74
2:09 Boris Diaw enters the game for Tim Duncan 51 - 74
2:09 Jarell Martin enters the game for Zach Randolph 51 - 74
2:09 Lance Stephenson enters the game for Matt Barnes 51 - 74
2:09 Patty Mills makes free throw 2 of 2 51 - 75

0:38 Patty Mills makes free throw 1 of 2 51 - 80
0:38 Patty Mills makes free throw 2 of 2 51 - 81

10:03 Patty Mills makes 25-foot three point jumper 54 - 84

8:33 Patty Mills makes 24-foot three pointer 56 - 89

13 of his 15 points came after the Spurs were up 20, and against some no name backup.

If Parker padded like this, you dipshits would be crying foul.

Again, props to Patty for finally waking up, but let's not act like he was clutch or fueled that run during a tight point in the game. Parker was the better player tonight.

[gambit1990]

you still have to bitch?
so me bitching = literally doing nothing but stating facts:

patty scored the same amount of points as parker. on two less shots. mills had three more rebounds. parker had four more assists but also had three more turnovers. patty had two more steals and one less foul.

[gilmor]

so me bitching = literally doing nothing but stating facts:

Here's for you man..

http://www.nba.com/spurs/video/teams/spurs/2016/04/18/1460952332706-aotggrizzlies.mp4-453976

happy bitching..

[gambit1990]

Here's for you man..

http://www.nba.com/spurs/video/teams/spurs/2016/04/18/1460952332706-aotggrizzlies.mp4-453976

happy bitching..
do you know what bitching means? i was stating facts. you're killing the messenger moron.

i'm actually more pleased with parker's game tonight than a lot of his play during the season. doesn't say a whole lot but i didn't bitch, bitch.

[midnightpulp]

do you know what bitching means? i was stating facts. you're killing the messenger moron.

i'm actually more pleased with parker's game tonight than a lot of his play during the season. doesn't say a whole lot but i didn't bitch, bitch.

Your fact stating was shit.

Fact: Patty got "hot" when the Spurs were up 20 and against the backup PG.

Fact: Jordan Farmar or not, Parker's scoring came during a much more crucial time during the game. The Spurs were up only 6 with a 1:00 to go in the half, and Parker scored a quick 5 points to get the lead back up to double digits. Then Parker scored 6 straight points during the middle of the 3rd to get the lead up to 19. Patty scored 13 points after the Spurs were already up 20.

Only a fuckin' retard would think Patty had the better game.

[dabom]

Your fact stating was shit.

Fact: Patty got "hot" when the Spurs were up 20 and against the backup PG.

Fact: Jordan Farmar or not, Parker's scoring came during a much more crucial time during the game. The Spurs were up only 6 with a 1:00 to go in the half, and Parker scored a quick 5 points to get the lead back up to double digits. Then Parker scored 6 straight points during the middle of the 3rd to get the lead up to 19. Patty scored 13 points after the Spurs were already up 20.

Only a fuckin' retard would think Patty had the better game.

Not his fault he is played as a backup. We've already seen what the death squad can do when the Spurs need to close out. :lmao

[midnightpulp]

Not his fault he is played as a backup. We've already seen what the death squad can do when the Spurs need to close out. :lmao

No it isn't. Not all players are born and made into natural point guards. Patty is perfect in his role as our Eddie House :toast

[dabom]

No it isn't. Not all players are born and made into natural point guards. Patty is perfect in his role as our Eddie House :toast

Brah, Tony was doing his best Manu-game-6-vs-the-heat-2013 impersonation for 6 games last playoffs and Tony still didn't get his role or minutes reduced. :lol

[gambit1990]

Your fact stating was shit.
so the facts i stated... weren't facts? because they were numbers pulled from the official box score.


Only a fuckin' retard would think Patty had the better game.

my point was that patty's production was not far off from parker's. it was actually better when you consider the contract.

[midnightpulp]

so the facts i stated... weren't facts? because they were numbers pulled from the official box score.

They weren't facts anyone with a brain would take seriously. It's why you don't see GMs handing out huge contracts to garbage time heroes with insane metrics.

Parker played up to the worth of his contract tonight. Patty's game was an incomplete, since by the time he checked in after the 1st half, the game was pretty much over. When the game was close in the 1st half, he was 1-5, so we'll never know how he would've performed if the game was close.

I mean, Kevin Martin was more efficient than Kawhi tonight. 10 points to Kawhi's 20, but in 60% less time. I guess he played better when you consider the contract, too.

[dabom]

Brah, Tony was doing his best Manu-game-6-vs-the-heat-2013 impersonation for 6 games last playoffs and Tony still didn't get his role or minutes reduced. :lol

You can't refute it. @mid. :lmao

[midnightpulp]

You can't refute it. @mid. :lmao

Who cares about last playoffs?

Parker has come out of the gate strong. Build on that, and forget last year.

If he shits it up again, criticism is warranted, but right now, he found somewhat of a groove. Yes, Memphis is shit, but our backcourt, including "MVPatty," have been utter trash for over a month, no matter the opponent.

[will_spurs]

They weren't facts anyone with a brain would take seriously. It's why you don't see GMs handing out huge contracts to garbage time heroes with insane metrics.

You're talking to guys who don't watch the games...

:cry "but the boxscore" :cry

[dabom]

Who cares about last playoffs?

Parker has come out of the gate strong. Build on that, and forget last year.

If he shits it up again, criticism is warranted, but right now, he found somewhat of a groove. Yes, Memphis is shit, but our backcourt, including "MVPatty," have been utter trash for over a month, no matter the opponent.

I'm done for tonight. Keep it up with those threads btw. :tu :lmao

[SupremeGuy]

patty scored the same amount of points as parker. on two less shots. mills had three more rebounds. parker had four more assists but also had three more turnovers. patty had two more steals and one less foul.The simple truth. :toast

[hater]

Patty is a turs who plays well vs dleaguers. What's new?

[SASdynasty!]

MVPatty would have dropped 60 as a starter against Boobie Farmar.
Lol, Patty's been in the league 7 years and his playoff high is 18 points.

[K...]

Parker had six assists, mills 2. There you go box score info...I say start Parker.

Lmao the only sadder than Parker stans loving Farmar, patty stans who love garbage time minutes.

[gilmor]

U guys are delirious to bitch about Parker.

Did you see how deplorable Steph Curry is in the win against the Rockets..

That's the Grade A little twat.. you guys should bitch about..

[gambit1990]

our offense needs to be shifted.

parker with the ball gives us less of an advantage than kawhi with the ball.

i start patty in part because he holds on to the ball less than parker, meaning the ball would be in the hands of kawhi more. where it belongs.

the offense needs to be ran through kawhi.

tbh, i would even start manu. but i've been thinking about saving him for the finals... but actually maybe save him for playing golden state.

[gambit1990]

Who cares about last playoffs?

Parker has come out of the gate strong.

U guys are delirious to bitch about Parker.

Did you see how deplorable Steph Curry is in the win against the Rockets..

That's the Grade A little twat.. you guys should bitch about..
:lmao

[PopTheGOAT]

Why

[TheGreatYacht]

:lmao
Mills:
20 minutes, 1-5 shooting, 2pts, 2ast

Parker:
24 minutes, 1-8 shooting, 2pts, 7ast

[DeRozan m8]

We have no back court lol

[midnightpulp]

Mills:
20 minutes, 1-5 shooting, 2pts, 2ast

Parker:
24 minutes, 1-8 shooting, 2pts, 7ast

And outplayed by X. Munford :lol

[gambit1990]

Mills:
20 minutes, 1-5 shooting, 2pts, 2ast

Parker:
24 minutes, 1-8 shooting, 2pts, 7ast
patty played less, shot better and had two less turnovers. and what doesn't show up in the boxscore is how much less patty holds the ball than parker.

[midnightpulp]

patty played less, shot better and had two less turnovers. and what doesn't show up in the boxscore is how much less patty holds the ball than parker.

Now we're using context :lol

Both were shit, and this team is going nowhere with BOTH PGs playing like this. We can get away with it against arguably the worst playoff team in history, but the Thunder will be a rude awakening if Parker and Mills continue trending downward.

[apalisoc_9]

Now we're using context :lol

Both were shit, and this team is going nowhere with BOTH PGs playing like this. We can get away with it against arguably the worst playoff team in history, but the Thunder will be a rude awakening if Parker and Mills continue trending downward.

PG scoring is not as important in an offensive scheme whose second intention is to slow the game down. I have the warriors in 5, but as evidenced with Last years cavs vs. Warriors series before Lebron run out of gas on the offensive end, you need comeptitive perimter defender and guys that can score and playmake in the post.

[LakerHater]

Fuckin Patty kept gettin posted up on, BAD!

[midnightpulp]

PG scoring is not as important in an offensive scheme whose second intention is to slow the game down. I have the warriors in 5, but as evidenced with Last years cavs vs. Warriors series before Lebron run out of gas on the offensive end, you need comeptitive perimter defender and guys that can score and playmake in the post.

It was always very important for the Spurs in the 4-down Duncan-era (a slow paced, post up oriented offense). We don't beat the Lakers in '03 without Parker's scoring. And when he did struggle in that '03 run, the Spurs looked like shit, until Steve Kerr (a PG) and Speedy Claxton (a PG) came in and had good games. The next season, the Spurs looked primed for a repeat, but as soon as Phil adjusted and cut off Parker's penetration, the Lakers went onto backdoor sweep.

The only way to mitigate the lack of PG scoring on this Spurs team is with good 3 point shooting and/or another wing penetrator. The former has been shit for 2 months, and we lack the latter outside the occasional throwback game from Manu.

[midnightpulp]

Fuckin Patty kept gettin posted up on, BAD!

Munford is 6'3". Livingston is going to eat Patty alive (if we get that far).

[DAF86]

That Manu, Green, Kawhi, Boris, LA line-up to end the game is something I would like to see more. I thik it cothi come in very handy against the Warriors.

[DAF86]

Munford is 6'3". Livingston is going to eat Patty alive (if we get that far).

And Tony isn't? :lol

This is one of the reasons why I would like to see more of Manu at PG, tbh.

[Kawhitstorm]

Munford is 6'3". Livingston is going to eat Patty alive (if we get that far).

Manu would have to guard Livingston while Patty checks Barbosa.

[TheGreatYacht]

And Tony isn't? :lol

This is one of the reasons why I would like to see more of Manu at PG, tbh.
Harrison Barnes and Klay couldn't score on Parker down low this season, tbh.

Manu would probably intentionally foul them :lol

[midnightpulp]

That Manu, Green, Kawhi, Boris, LA line-up to end the game is something I would like to see more. I thik it cothi come in very handy against the Warriors.

Yeah. I think this run is going to come down to what Manu has left in the tank. We need a dynamic backcourt/wing scorer BADLY.

Manu should get a lot of minutes at a PG in that potential series, hopefully. Livingston has made mince meat of Patty all season, and we obviously know Parker won't do shit against Wardell.

I say try the regular rotation in game 1, and if they get destroyed, start Manu at PG and split the backup PGs minutes among Patty, Parker, and Andre Miller.

[midnightpulp]

And Tony isn't? :lol

This is one of the reasons why I would like to see more of Manu at PG, tbh.

See my latest reply.

[apalisoc_9]

It was always very important for the Spurs in the 4-down Duncan-era (a slow paced, post up oriented offense). We don't beat the Lakers in '03 without Parker's scoring. And when he did struggle in that '03 run, the Spurs looked like shit, until Steve Kerr (a PG) and Speedy Claxton (a PG) came in and had good games. The next season, the Spurs looked primed for a repeat, but as soon as Phil adjusted and cut off Parker's penetration, the Lakers went onto backdoor sweep.

The only way to mitigate the lack of PG scoring on this Spurs team is with good 3 point shooting and/or another wing penetrator. The former has been shit for 2 months, and we lack the latter outside the occasional throwback game from Manu.

The big differene with those team from this team is that they have a legit top 3 player in the world that can score of off ball movements, isos and Pick and roll. The dynamics offensively is very different, even the post entry passes are significantly different.

Parker was needed to score in some of the games in that era, specially before manu broke out in 04 because Duncan was really the only option. Manu was still part of the comittee offensively.

It's a different dynamic offensively.

[midnightpulp]

Manu would have to guard Livingston while Patty checks Barbosa.

Barbosa has gone off on Patty, as well.

Pop brought in K-Mart and Miller to give him some flexibility for these matchup situations, so he needs to get creative.

[midnightpulp]

The big differene with those team from this team is that they have a legit top 3 player in the world that can score of off ball movements, isos and Pick and roll. The dynamics offensively is very different, even the post entry passes are significantly different.

Parker was needed to score in some of the games in that era, specially before manu broke out in 04 because Duncan was really the only option. Manu was still part of the comittee offensively.

It's a different dynamic offensively.

None of the Spurs' offensive dynamics would be worse off if we had consistent PG scoring. If anything, if Parker was still the Parker of old, he'd generate a few more easy looks per game for Kawhi through driving and kicking. And if Parker was still a penetration threat, teams would cheat toward the lane, which would give Kawhi and LMA more space for their midrange jumpers.

You need good-to-great PG play to win a title. The only exceptions in history were Triangle built offenses (but it did help that Scottie Pippen was something of a point forward) and the recent Miami Heat, but Lebron is basically a point guard anyway. It doesn't need to be Parker specifically on this team, but someone does need to generate action off the dribble to collapse defenses and get them rotating to cover secondary action. We won't go very far just posting up and shooting midrange jumpshots.

Since Parker has took a shit again, Manu needs to be that guy.

[apalisoc_9]

None of the Spurs' offensive dynamics would be worse off if we had consistent PG scoring. If anything, if Parker was still the Parker of old, he'd generate a few more easy looks per game for Kawhi through driving and kicking. And if Parker was still a penetration threat, teams would cheat toward the lane, which would give Kawhi and LMA more space for their midrange jumpers.

You need good-to-great PG play to win a title. The only exceptions in history were Triangle built offenses (but it did help that Scottie Pippen was something of a point forward) and the recent Miami Heat, but Lebron is basically a point guard anyway. It doesn't need to be Parker specifically on this team, but someone does need to generate action off the dribble to collapse defenses and get them rotating to cover secondary action. We won't go very far just posting up and shooting midrange jumpshots.

Since Parker has took a shit again, Manu needs to be that guy.

This team btw is significantly better than any Big 3 era team.

I mean it won 67 games without its superstar playing 40mgp like Duncan. This team would have 3peated in that era.

You really seem to be undermining the fact that if this team coaching stuff believed this team needed a third consistent scorer, they would have gotten one. They really dont. This team needs a third consistent scorer out of one of the comittee. 85% of the time this year a third guy showed up and stepped up.

Its pretty apparent that's how the coaches feel about the scoring. And quite frankly conisdering the Memphis and Cavs series last year, its more than enough theoritically.

Ofcourse the warriors will probably win in 5 because they are possibly the greatesr team ever, but that shouldnt take away anything from what the Coaching stuff has accomplished structurally in both offensive and defense. Basically, possibly the greatest spur team of all time and probably one of the top 15 teams of all time.

[midnightpulp]

This team btw is significantly better than any Big 3 era team.

I mean it won 67 games without its superstar playing 40mgp like Duncan. This team would have 3peated in that era.

You really seem to be undermining the fact that if this team coaching stuff believed this team needed a third consistent scorer, they would have gotten one. They really dont. This team needs a third consistent scorer out of one of the comittee. 85% of the time this year a third guy showed up and stepped up.

Its pretty apparent that's how the coaches feel about the scoring. And quite frankly conisdering the Memphis and Cavs series last year, its more than enough theoritically.

Ofcourse the warriors will probably win in 5 because they are possibly the greatesr team ever, but that shouldnt take away anything from what the Coaching stuff has accomplished structurally in both offensive and defense. Basically, possibly the greatest spur team of all time and probably one of the top 15 teams of all time.

They didn't think they needed to because Parker was supposed to fill that role. And if the coaching staff didn't think they needed more perimeter scoring, why do you think they signed Kevin Martin?

Also, last season was last season. The Warriors are actually much better this season, as scary as that sounds. This Warriors team easily sweeps last season's Cleveland or Memphis teams. There's nothing wrong with the way the offense is "structured," what's wrong right now is on the player side of the equation. Zero consistency from the role players.

This series is also a poor barometer, since Memphis is gutted. We'll see how they measure up against the Thunder, but I'll predict right now that if Patty, Tony, and Danny continue to play like they have, we're not advancing. Kawhi and LMA plus Whack-A-Mole just isn't enough. Also worth mentioning is that Kawhi is going to have to carry a big load defensively in that series. We can't expect him to score 25-30 every game while also playing world class defense on Durant. He needs perimeter scoring help. That's another reason I've been so adamant about another perimeter player being a threat. Takes a huge load off Kawhi.

[apalisoc_9]

They didn't think they needed to because Parker was supposed to fill that role. And if the coaching staff didn't think they needed more perimeter scoring, why do you think they signed Kevin Martin?

Also, last season was last season. The Warriors are actually much better this season, as scary as that sounds. This Warriors team easily sweeps last season's Cleveland or Memphis teams. There's nothing wrong with the way the offense is "structured," what's wrong right now is on the player side of the equation. Zero consistency from the role players.

This series is also a poor barometer, since Memphis is gutted. We'll see how they measure up against the Thunder, but I'll predict right now that if Patty, Tony, and Danny continue to play like they have, we're not advancing. Kawhi and LMA plus Whack-A-Mole just isn't enough. Also worth mentioning is that Kawhi is going to have to carry a big load defensively in that series. We can't expect him to score 25-30 every game while also playing world class defense on Durant. He needs perimeter scoring help. That's another reason I've been so adamant about another perimeter player being a threat. Takes a huge load off Kawhi.

I really dont think so. The spurs run so many sets this year that makes it extrmelly difficult to have three consistent same player scorer.

Of course the dubs are much better this year and they will beat San Antonio in 4 or 5, but Pop is sticking with his plan. Hes convinced that it will still give them the best chance. The two games in San Antonio probably made him even more convinced.

Kawhi is the best defensive player in the league but his defensive responsibility have somewhat diminshed compared to last year and years before. Pop is actually challenging parker now to take the challenge in the first half now that he isnt the main guy offensively.

Danny also spends about half the time against kawhis matchups. They dont hide kawhi but its pretty aparent that Green is the spurs main defensive guy now.

Not in terms of making him the number one defensive option, thats still on kawhi but kawhis usage has dropped defensively against PGs and SGs save maybe for a few occasions.

The only time hes glued to a superstar now is is when hes playing hjs Rivals lebron-KD-Geroge-Melo-Hayward etc.

I imagine its a personal request.

Again, the third option doesnt have to specifically be Parker. It can be anyone of the comittee.

Are you denying the fact that majority of the time a third scorer actually does show up? Be it parker, Manu,mills, diaw etc.

You only need one of those guys to show up 4 in 7...thats the gamble this team is making imo.

[Kawhitstorm]

Barbosa has gone off on Patty, as well.

Pop brought in K-Mart and Miller to give him some flexibility for these matchup situations, so he needs to get creative.

http://bkref.com/tiny/GexzD

[midnightpulp]

I really dont think so. The spurs run so many sets this year that makes it extrmelly difficult to have three consistent same player scorer.

Of course the dubs are much better this year and they will beat San Antonio in 4 or 5, but Pop is sticking with his plan. Hes convinced that it will still give them the best chance. The two games in San Antonio probably made him even more convinced.

Kawhi is the best defensive player in the league but his defensive responsibility have somewhat diminshed compared to last year and years before. Pop is actually challenging parker now to take the challenge in the first half now that he isnt the main guy offensively.

Danny also spends about half the time against kawhis matchups. They dont hide kawhi but its pretty aparent that Green is the spurs main defensive guy now.

Not in terms of making him the number one defensive option, thats still on kawhi but kawhis usage has dropped defensively against PGs and SGs save maybe for a few occasions.

The only time hes glued to a superstar now is is when hes playing hjs Rivals lebron-KD-Geroge-Melo-Hayward etc.

I imagine its a personal request.

Again, the third option doesnt have to specifically be Parker. It can be anyone of the comittee.

Are you denying the fact that majority of the time a third scorer actually does show up? Be it parker, Manu,mills, diaw etc.

You only need one of those guys to show up 4 in 7...thats the gamble this team is making imo.

For the past month, yes. A 3rd scorer to me is a guy that is a threat to score 20 any given night. Not a player who is capable of scoring 20 once in a while, but a consistent threat. A guy who maybe averages 12-14 points per game, but has numerous 20 point games over the season.

I also don't see how Pop thinks his plan is viable. We really haven't looked all that impressive against the Warriors. Wow, we beat them when they were missing 3 key rotation players.

We'll see what happens against the Thunder. But I won't be surprised if LMA and Kawhi are carrying all the scoring load, which will likely be within 5 points either way of Westbrook and Durant, but the Committee will disappear while someone like Waiters or Kanter provides them with consistent game to game scoring.

[midnightpulp]

http://bkref.com/tiny/GexzD

Glad I'm wrong on that point, at least.

[apalisoc_9]

Kanter right now is the most gifted offensive post scorer in the league. Of course he will always have a chance of eating up lazy Boris diaw, West. Boban played him well.

The spurs should be able to beat the thunder. The thunder outside of Westbrook-Durant-Kanter are very very limited offensively and it doesnt help that those players have to play in a tough offensive structure.

With their offensive structure and our defense. I highly doubt anyone would have an 18+ point performance that isnt Kanter-Westbrook-Durant-Ibaka.

They dont have much.

[apalisoc_9]

But Kanter is scary if I have to be honest. If hes not getting punished in the post or PnR..the thunder is going to be scary because Donovan plays Kanter significant minutes when opppsing teams are doing a piss poor job of taking advatnage of kanter.

[midnightpulp]

Kanter right now is the most gifted offensive post scorer in the league. Of course he will always have a chance of eating up lazy Boris diaw, West. Boban played him well.

The spurs should be able to beat the thunder. The thunder outside of Westbrook-Durant-Kanter are very very limited offensively and it doesnt help that those players have to play in a tough offensive structure.

With their offensive structure and our defense. I highly doubt anyone would have an 18+ point performance that isnt Kanter-Westbrook-Durant-Ibaka.

They dont have much.

Here's hoping.

[dabom]

KawhiGod

[Kawhitstorm]

Kanter right now is the most gifted offensive post scorer in the league. Of course he will always have a chance of eating up lazy Boris diaw, West. Boban played him well.

Kanter isn't even a "post-up" player, he's a PnR/face-up type of guy who pounds the offensive glass or ducks in for deep catches. The Jazz tried to make him a postup player & he did fair well offensively b/c he doesn't have the footwork/counters.

Al Jefferson is still the best postup player in the league. (Cousins/Okafor/Vucevic are also better)

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[gambit1990]

^

[apalisoc_9]

Kanter isn't even a "post-up" player, he's a PnR/face-up type of guy who pounds the offensive glass or ducks in for deep catches. The Jazz tried to make him a postup player & he did fair well offensively b/c he doesn't have the footwork/counters.

Al Jefferson is still the best postup player in the league. (Cousins/Okafor/Vucevic are also better)

yyQU-kozEG8

I didnt mean to say hes a post up player. He just operates in the post. I cant think of anyone as efficient as him when he.gets the ball in the post position.

[Kawhitstorm]

I didnt mean to say hes a post up player. He just operates in the post. I cant think of anyone as efficient as him when he.gets the ball in the post position.

He's huge & has soft hands so he can absorb contact & finish in traffic.

[midnightpulp]

Kanter had the game of his life tonight. Scared of this guy more than ever now. Gonna feast on Fat Ass and West. Does Pop play Boban more minutes or possibly start Diaw and move Timmy to the bench?

[TheGreatYacht]

Kanter had the game of his life tonight. Scared of this guy more than ever now. Gonna feast on Fat Ass and West. Does Pop play Boban more minutes or possibly start Diaw and move Timmy to the bench?
Diaw should start, he killed Ibaka in 2014 and it would be a waste of Tim's post defense if he was on Adams most of the time.

Spreading the floor and getting Ibaka/Adams out of the paint will only help Kawhi and Tony.

[spursistan]

:lmao :lmao :lmao..

[in2deep]

:lmao retards

[DeRozan m8]

Trade him

[spurraider21]

that was ugly. he's been so clutch before, too

[TheGreatYacht]

It's over. Get him the fuck out

[Spurs9]

Trade patty

[313]

Meanwhile Cojo outplaying his all star franchise point guard counterpart. Who does Patty compete with? The corpse of Tony Parker? :lmao

[noles1983]

all i want for xmas is a pg. just one decent one

[hater]

I wanna see Andre Miller IMO.....

[gambit1990]

patty's getting paid $3 million and people on here expect him to make every shot, all the time :lol

he put up the same amount of shots as parker and only made one less.

i still start patty/manu/miller over parker. that's when the ball moves better.

[TheGreatYacht]

patty's getting paid $3 million and people on here expect him to make every shot, all the time :lol

he put up the same amount of shots as parker and only made one less.

i still start patty/manu/miller over parker. that's when the ball moves better.
Must've missed the game :lmao

I swear to god, Patty has worse shot selection than JR Smith

[gambit1990]

Must've missed the game :lmao

I swear to god, Patty has worse shot selection than JR Smith
nope, i saw it. like every game in the 1st round. patty doesn't have worse shot selection than jr smith.

[midnightpulp]

patty's getting paid $3 million and people on here expect him to make every shot, all the time :lol

he put up the same amount of shots as parker and only made one less.

i still start patty/manu/miller over parker. that's when the ball moves better.

Have you seen his playoff stats?

That isn't worth 3 million. He got paid that contract based off his 2014 coming out party, and was heretofore expected to keep up that level of consistency.

And no need to deflect with Parker criticism. He sucks too. The PG rotation on this team is total shit and will be the death of the Spurs in the this round or the next. LMA can't hold this team's hand over 6 or 7 games.

[RD2191]

I remember when the entire fucking forum would shit on me for calling patty a scrub and calling cojo a better player. Fuckin faggots.

[dabom]

Tony is a walking layup drill and gets payed 14 mil to do worse than Patty. :lmao

[TheGreatYacht]

I remember when the entire fucking forum would shit on me for calling patty a scrub and calling cojo a better player. Fuckin faggots.
You were right tbh..

[LongtimeSpursFan]

Tony is a walking layup drill and gets payed 14 mil to do worse than Patty. :lmao


Dude This about Patty. He sucks and been sucking for two years

[Nathan89]

Been wanting to trade this scrub but the forum laughs at that idea because they like this midget chucker.

[313]

Tony is a walking layup drill and gets payed 14 mil to do worse than Patty. :lmao
Yo numb nuts, Tony isn't a big man, he doesn't protect the rim.

[dabom]

Yo numb nuts, Tony isn't a big man, he doesn't protect the rim.

What does that have to do with Tony playing matador defense?

[HarlemHeat37]

Mills has been atrocious in the playoffs, tbh..Spurs don't have a starter-level PG, which is suicide in today's NBA..

[dabom]

Mills has been atrocious in the playoffs, tbh..Spurs don't have a starter-level PG, which is suicide in today's NBA..

Like the whole playoffs. Disagree there dude.

[midnightpulp]

I remember when the entire fucking forum would shit on me for calling patty a scrub and calling cojo a better player. Fuckin faggots.

Call of the past 3 years. I bought into the Mills hype as well after 2014.

Meanwhile, CoJo is actually contributing on the Raptors and, unlike Patty House, knows how to take the ball to the rim.

[313]

What does that have to do with Tony playing matador defense?
Lay up drill is an insult reserved for big men who are mediocre rim protector and allow...you guessed it, lay ups. Tony gave up zero lay ups tonight that I recall, family.

[midnightpulp]

Like the whole playoffs. Disagree there dude.

He inflated his stats in those blowout wins against a beyond shitty Grizzlies team.

[313]

I remember when the entire fucking forum would shit on me for calling patty a scrub and calling cojo a better player. Fuckin faggots.
Even after he saved us against the Thunder in 2014 people still thought Patty was better :lmao

[dabom]

Lay up drill is an insult reserved for big men who are mediocre rim protector and allow...you guessed it, lay ups. Tony gave up zero lay ups that recall family.


You can be a layup drill. Watch Tony defense all year.

[dabom]

He inflated his stats in those blowout wins against a beyond shitty Grizzlies team.

What about porker? He can't even stat pad those faggots? :lmao

[midnightpulp]

What about porker? He can't even stat pad those faggots? :lmao

Deflecting with Parker criticism doesn't help, bro. Patty's been awful.

Two awfuls (Patty and Parker) don't make a right. I'm sick of both of them right now. These 3-9, 2-9, 1-7 type games from BOTH in the same game are just killing us.

[dabom]

Deflecting with Parker criticism doesn't help, bro. Patty's been awful.

Two awfuls (Patty and Parker) don't make a right. I'm sick of both of them right now. These 3-9, 2-9, 1-7 type games from BOTH in the same game are just killing us.

-14, +15 :lmao

[midnightpulp]

-14, +15 :lmao

:lol one game +/-

Take the loss, brah. Patty is garbage right now.

[dabom]

:lol one game +/-

Take the loss, brah. Patty is garbage right now.

And yet the Spurs play great with him on the floor. :lol

[SouthernFried]

Patty has played better than Parker. Even tonight. He took 2 great charges on fast breaks.

...and patty gets paid 5 times less. Parker is the problem, has been for awhile. Not our backup point guard...our starting pg.

[midnightpulp]

And yet the Spurs play great with him on the floor. :lol

LMA was -7 and Boban was +6.

So we should start Boban over LMA now?

No one uses single box score +/-, bro. The stat is beyond flawed and means nothing.

I finally agree with you that Patty is probably not any worse of a choice than Parker at this point. As HH said, the Spurs lack a starting caliber PG right now. Worrying. And Danny Green's inconsistency remains a big problem. Another poor shooting night.

[dabom]

LMA was -7 and Boban was +6.

So we should start Boban over LMA now?

No one uses single box score +/-, bro. The stat is beyond flawed and means nothing.

I finally agree with you that Patty is probably not any worse of a choice than Parker at this point. As HH said, the Spurs lack a starting caliber PG right now. Worrying. And Danny Green's inconsistency remains a big problem. Another poor shooting night.

LMA went supernova. What patty and parker brings are different "systems" when they each enter. You keep ignoring that. Stop doing that. :lol

[gambit1990]

Patty has played better than Parker. Even tonight. He took 2 great charges on fast breaks.

...and patty gets paid 5 times less. Parker is the problem, has been for awhile. Not our backup point guard...our starting pg.

[midnightpulp]

LMA went supernova. What patty and parker brings are different "systems" when they each enter. You keep ignoring that. Stop doing that. :lol

True. How do you think Parker got 12 dimes last game? He was setting up both LMA and Green.

Patty plays better alongside Kawhi.

Both aren't worth a shit as scorers who can relieve pressure, though. I'm sick of both them under-performing. No favorite either way.

[TheGreatYacht]

Parker passes the ball on P&R's

Mills just rushes retarded shots after screens

"Different systems"

[gambit1990]

Have you seen his playoff stats?

That isn't worth 3 million. He got paid that contract based off his 2014 coming out party, and was heretofore expected to keep up that level of consistency.

And no need to deflect with Parker criticism. He sucks too. The PG rotation on this team is total shit and will be the death of the Spurs in the this round or the next. LMA can't hold this team's hand over 6 or 7 games.
have you seen parker's? if you don't think patty is worth $3 million, you surely don't think parker is worth $14?

one is a bigger issue than the other. what's worse: a starting pg playing bad... or a backup playing bad?

[dabom]

True. How do you think Parker got 12 dimes last game? He was setting up both LMA and Green.

Patty plays better alongside Kawhi.

Both aren't worth a shit as scorers who can relieve pressure, though. I'm sick of both them under-performing. No favorite either way.

LMA also went off today. Had nothing to do with Tony passing him the ball. All LMA.

[midnightpulp]

have you seen parker's? if you don't think patty is worth $3 million, you surely don't think parker is worth $14?

one is a bigger issue than the other. what's worse: a starting pg playing bad... or a backup playing bad?

I basically implied Parker isn't worth a pot to piss in.

[midnightpulp]

LMA also went off today. Had nothing to do with Tony passing him the ball. All LMA.

Parker being able to run a decent pick-and-roll and his probing ability makes things easier for LMA, while Patty's shooting ability spaces the floor, giving more room for Kawhi to work with.

If they could just both manage 45-50% shooting, we wouldn't be having this discussion. I have no idea what their problems are.

[SouthernFried]

Parker is more of a problem than Patty. Hell, even Barkley commented on how bad PARKER has been playing.

We are talking so much about Patty, because he's being required to play so much more to cover for Parker. Patty's a back up PG. He is good as a BACK UP point guard. Our main problem...is our STARTING pg.

[dabom]

Parker being able to run a decent pick-and-roll and his probing ability makes things easier for LMA, while Patty's shooting ability spaces the floor, giving more room for Kawhi to work with.

If they could just both manage 45-50% shooting, we wouldn't be having this discussion. I have no idea what their problems are.

Except anyone that passed the ball to LMA should have gotten an assist.

[midnightpulp]

Except anyone that passed the ball to LMA should have gotten an assist.

Parker was setting up LMA with a lot of open jumpers in game 1 off the pick and roll and probing.

Check the lineups for the season. Patty doesn't play as well in LMA lineups as Parker does, but Patty excels alongside Leonard.

I think they both are doing their jobs well running the offense when they're in. They just can't score for whatever fuckin' reason.

[dabom]

Parker was setting up LMA with a lot of open jumpers in game 1 off the pick and roll and probing.

Check the lineups for the season. Patty doesn't play as well in LMA lineups as Parker does, but Patty excels alongside Leonard.

I think they both are doing their jobs well running the offense when they're in. They just can't score for whatever fuckin' reason.

Check this game though.

If one PG got injured between Porker and Patty. Which on do you choose to keep healthy? Hypothetical.

Don't answer it either. We both know the answer.

[Kawhitstorm]

Mills has been atrocious in the playoffs, tbh..Spurs don't have a starter-level PG, which is suicide in today's NBA..

Manu/Danny/Kawhi/LMA/Tim is best lineup against OKC. (Patty is useless unless he's hitting shots)

[DAF86]

Manu/Danny/Kawhi/LMA/Tim is best lineup against OKC. (Patty is useless unless he's hitting shots)

Should have gone with that on crunch time. Maybe even Boris for Tim.

[Kawhitstorm]

Parker is more of a problem than Patty. Hell, even Barkley commented on how bad PARKER has been playing.

We are talking so much about Patty, because he's being required to play so much more to cover for Parker. Patty's a back up PG. He is good as a BACK UP point guard. Our main problem...is our STARTING pg.

Patty can play against OKC's backups but he can't be on the floor in the 4th quarter when he's throwing up bricks.

[dabom]

Patty can play against OKC's backups but he can't be on the floor in the 4th quarter when he's throwing up bricks.

You think Patty was only playing vs backups? :lmao

[HarlemHeat37]

Manu/Danny/Kawhi/LMA/Tim is best lineup against OKC. (Patty is useless unless he's hitting shots)

I was hoping we would see it again after he used it to beat Memphis, but no sign of it since..maybe he's saying it for GS, but it's not a given that the Spurs will get there:lol

[J_Paco]

Check this game though.

If one PG got injured between Porker and Patty. Which on do you choose to keep healthy? Hypothetical.

Don't answer it either. We both know the answer.

Get off Patty's nuts, man. He is a shit PG that can't run a fucking offense, plays no defense and needs a 37 year to set the table for him. He's been good in his time here, but the front-office made a huge mistake picking him over Joseph.


Parker is what he is at this point and unfortunately the team will stick with him based on a bunch of reasons (loyalty, salary and past accomplishments). He shouldn't be the starter past this season, but Mills sure as fuck ain't the answer and needs to go. Regardless of how this season plays out the Spurs need to find Parker's eventual successor in the next draft.

[dabom]

Get off Patty's nuts, man. He is a shit PG that can't run a fucking offense, plays no defense and needs a 37 year to set the table for him. He's been good in his time here, but the front-office made a huge mistake picking him over Joseph.


Parker is what he is at this point and unfortunately the team will stick with him based on a bunch of reasons (loyalty, salary and past accomplishments). He shouldn't be the starter past this season, but Mills sure as fuck ain't the answer and needs to go. Regardless of how this season plays out the Spurs need to find Parker's eventual successor in the next draft.

And yet Patty is a net positive every fucking game. :lmao

[Kawhitstorm]

Should have gone with that on crunch time. Maybe even Boris for Tim.

Diaw is allergic to rebounds & Tim did a good job keeping Adams off the offensive boards in the 4th quarter. (Can't put LMA on Adams since he needs to conserve energy for offense)

Diaw was key against OKC in 2014 when Durant played PF but Donvan has always had two legit bigs on the floor including either Adams or Kanter or BOTH. Essentially, either Tim or Boban have to be on the floor when Diaw or West are on the floor since they can only block out Ibaka.

[Kawhitstorm]

I was hoping we would see it again after he used it to beat Memphis, but no sign of it since..maybe he's saying it for GS, but it's not a given that the Spurs will get there:lol

Actually, he tends to use it on the road since he has a short fuse when players fucking up in hostile environments.

[midnightpulp]

Check this game though.

If one PG got injured between Porker and Patty. Which on do you choose to keep healthy? Hypothetical.

Don't answer it either. We both know the answer.

Parker, because he can run more facets of the offense than Patty. Patty is a very specialized player. More a 2 guard masquerading as a PG.

Parker has not been a detriment this series insofar as heroballing and dribble-dribble-dribble. He's doing what you guys wanted him to do all season. Defer and pick his spots. He just can't hit the few looks he's getting, which is killing us. Same with Patty. Same with Green. The backcourt scoring is in shambles. And I hope Poop pulls his head out of ass before it's too late and plays Manu more at the point with the starters.

[Kawhitstorm]

You think Patty was only playing vs backups? :lmao

The problem was that he wasn't...:wakeup

The Spurs made their run in the 3rd when WB got subbed out & Patty checked in but then he wet the bed in the 4th quarter along w/ the other scrubs.

[dabom]

Parker, because he can run more facets of the offense than Patty. Patty is a very specialized player. More a 2 guard masquerading as a PG.

Parker has not been a detriment this series insofar as heroballing and dribble-dribble-dribble. He's doing what you guys wanted him to do all season. Defer and pick his spots. He just can't hit the few looks he's getting, which is killing us. Same with Patty. Same with Green. The backcourt scoring is in shambles. And I hope Poop pulls his head out of ass before it's too late and plays Manu more at the point with the starters.

Wrong answer. :lmao

[midnightpulp]

Wrong answer. :lmao

I provided the right answer. More Manu at the point with the starters. Patty isn't a true PG. He's a sparkplug guy who comes in and hits a couple 3s to break a team's back. His game won't translate well to major starting minutes.

[dabom]

I provided the right answer. More Manu at the point with the starters. Patty isn't a true PG. He's a sparkplug guy who comes in and hits a couple 3s to break a team's back. His game won't translate well to major starting minutes.

You've been wrong all year. What is another L right? :lol





:toast

[DAF86]

Diaw is allergic to rebounds & Tim did a good job keeping Adams off the offensive boards in the 4th quarter. (Can't put LMA on Adams since he needs to conserve energy for offense)

Diaw was key against OKC in 2014 when Durant played PF but Donvan has always had two legit bigs on the floor including either Adams or Kanter or BOTH. Essentially, either Tim or Boban have to be on the floor when Diaw or West are on the floor since they can only block out Ibaka.

I agree about the rebounds but if more offense is needed Boris should be there instead of Timmy. A line-up of Manu at PG, Green, Kawhi, Boris and LA should be good enough to don't get killed on the boards while manufacturing enough pts on the other side to win the game.

[J_Paco]

And yet Patty is a net positive every fucking game. :lmao

Who gives a fuck. Spout all the stupid metrics and "advanced" stats you please, I see Patty for what he is not the make believe you wish he was. The guy is a undersized jump shooting SG trapped in a PG's body. It worked having him around as a change pace and instant offense off the pine when Parker was in his prime, but now we need a much better solution to the 1st/2nd PG spot. We need size (Patty is only 6'), athleticism (last sequence of tonight's game proves Patty lacks that), ability to penetrate (another knock on Patty) and most of all one that can create for his teammates. Something left up for Manu to do because Patty sucks at it (which his whooping 2.8 APG and 20 Assist Percentage) so badly.

[midnightpulp]

You've been wrong all year. What is another L right? :lol





:toast

"Patty shows up in the playoff!"

3-13 against a real playoff team thus far.

Take the L, bro.

[TheGreatYacht]

"Patty shows up in the playoff!"

3-13 against a real playoff team thus far.

Take the L, bro.
:cry He might hit you with dat +/- :cry

[dabom]

"Patty shows up in the playoff!"

3-13 against a real playoff team thus far.

Take the L, bro.


"Turd Option." -14, +15. :lmao

[SouthernFried]

Patty is a backup PG. Nothing more...nothing less.

All this talk about Patty, is because our starting PG sucks and we need our backup PG to cover for him. Sometimes Patty does, sometimes Patty doesn't. Get rid of Parker and get a decent starting PG...and Patty is just fine as the backup. But, we all know Parker ain't going nowhere...so, we need another starting PG to cover for him. Patty isn't a starting PG.

[TheGreatYacht]

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Paddy probably rushes up a shot, tbh.. Ball hog

[spurraider21]

manu at point guard is easily our best option. since OKC has no 2-guard he can always just defend roberson/waiters/morrow/payne or whoever the fuck and it wont be an issue. the problem is he's old and probably can't handle the minutes we need out of him

his 3-ball has been very reliable this year and in the playoffs, so he combines the best of patty (shooting) and parker (unlike patty, is capable of dribbling the ball in the face of defenders) while also providing better playmaking than either

[SAGirl]

manu at point guard is easily our best option. since OKC has no 2-guard he can always just defend roberson/waiters/morrow/payne or whoever the fuck and it wont be an issue. the problem is he's old and probably can't handle the minutes we need out of him

his 3-ball has been very reliable this year and in the playoffs, so he combines the best of patty (shooting) and parker (unlike patty, is capable of dribbling the ball in the face of defenders) while also providing better playmaking than either
Manu can't handle that for the minutes you would need of him.

[spurraider21]

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Paddy probably rushes up a shot, tbh.. Ball hog
that was pretty nash-like... though it could easily have been broken up by westbrook if he reacted a bit quicker, and then TP woulda been slammed for the turnover

[spursistan]

That pass from TP was insane :wow...

If I'm Pop, i would start to have short leash on Mills from next game..give a look to Andre Miller and have him feed LMA for few easy baskets..that's is better option than having Mills chucking us away on the road..

[J_Paco]

Patty is a backup PG. Nothing more...nothing less.

All this talk about Patty, is because our starting PG sucks and we need our backup PG to cover for him. Sometimes Patty does, sometimes Patty doesn't. Get rid of Parker and get a decent starting PG...and Patty is just fine as the backup. But, we all know Parker ain't going nowhere...so, we need another starting PG to cover for him. Patty isn't a starting PG.

No he isn't fine as the back up. Even in Parker's diminished capacity, he'd bring more to the table as a backup at this point. Parker isn't leaving, so continuing to wish for it does nothing. Need to move on from that thought and the team needs to find a solution at the starting PG. Parker can move to the next chapter of his career and take over Manu's role as the spark plug/creator off the bench.

[Brazil]

727347094646824962

Paddy probably rushes up a shot, tbh.. Ball hog

thanks mate tbh.. this pass is a beauty :tu

[pgardn]

Patty is not a PG.

No matter how hard the crew wants him to be.
We know what he is, our energy SG off the bench with Manu to find him.
Its just not that difficult.

[gambit1990]

as bad as patty's been... after six playoff games he has a better PER, TS%, DRB%, TRB%, STL%, TOV%, and WS/48 than tony.

both have struggled. if you start patty instead, both will play worse than they currently are?

as i've said before though, i'd start him or manu or miller.

[Kawhitstorm]

If I'm Pop, i would start to have short leash on Mills from next game..give a look to Andre Miller and have him feed LMA for few easy baskets..that's is better option than having Mills chucking us away on the road..

Patty has made as many 3s as Andre against OKC: 1!:lol

[Kawhitstorm]

as bad as patty's been... after six playoff games he has a better PER, TS%, DRB%, TRB%, STL%, TOV%, and WS/48 than tony.

both have struggled. if you start patty instead, both will play worse than they currently are?

as i've said before though, i'd start him or manu or miller.

Patty has the WORST offensive rating among the rotation players against OKC: 63!:lmao (Last I checked he's there for offense)

[TheGreatYacht]

Patty has the WORST offensive rating among the rotation players against OKC: 63!:lmao (Last I checked he's there for offense)
:lmao

[hater]

:lol if we depend on Chernobili at PG for real minutes, we might as well tank the series

I wanna see Andre Miller IMO. Patty can't even outplay Cameron "aka Westbrook chewtoy" Payne :lol

I'm pretty sure Miller would school that ladyboy

[quentin_compson]

Patty was fucking atrocious in Game 2, unfortunately. Making a lot of bad decisions, rushing shots etc.

[spursistan]

Damn..gambit is nowhere to be seen :lol

can't even make set-up corner 3s anymore...did that surgeon forget a scissor in his shoulder after the surgery? :lol

[apalisoc_9]

Damn..gambit is nowhere to be seen :lol


can't even make set-up corner 3s anymore...did that surgeon forget a scissor in his shoulder after the surgery? :lol

He hit threes against Memphis. Hes a role player. Hes going to have ups and downs in series. Lets hope both him and Danny make threes against GSW cause thats the only way we are getting a shot at them.

[.G.]

They simply disappeared.

That's it.

[SASdynasty!]

Patty needs to keep shooting. He's a solid role player that can get hot. A shooter's only chance is to keep shooting. We might be able to get by OKC without him, but I think we'll need him for Golden State.

[TheGreatYacht]

Damn..gambit is nowhere to be seen :lol

can't even make set-up corner 3s anymore...did that surgeon forget a scissor in his shoulder after the surgery? :lol
He's a front runner bro :lol he had a Patriots hat in his avi... Tbh

[SAGirl]

Patty needs to keep shooting. He's a solid role player that can get hot. A shooter's only chance is to keep shooting. We might be able to get by OKC without him, but I think we'll need him for Golden State.
We are going to need all our horses for GSW and then some.

I am lighting candles and starting prayer circles at home. :lol

[spurraider21]

He hit threes against Memphis. Hes a role player. Hes going to have ups and downs in series. Lets hope both him and Danny make threes against GSW cause thats the only way we are getting a shot at them.
if parker keeps playing at this level and curry is on a bum knee, it could be interesting

[apalisoc_9]

if parker keeps playing at this level and curry is on a bum knee, it could be interesting

The warriors are still a better team even with curry at 50%. Significantly better. The spurs can win the series with curry at 50% but they need the role players to step up...all of them need to at least have a couple decent games on the road.

[spurraider21]

The warriors are still a better team even with curry at 50%. Significantly better. The spurs can win the series with curry at 50% but they need the role players to step up...all of them need to at least have a couple decent games on the road.
true. parker suddenly not being a complete turd is pretty encouraging though

[Ditty]

I think the Spurs are playing a Thunder team that is locked in, and are playing their best basketball of the season at a level that isn't much worse than the Warriors right now imo. I say that because they haven't look incredibly impressive either against really inferior competition fwiw. Lack of focus & boredom in the postseason? I don't know especially with the amount of talent they have. Spurs have a good shot of beating them without an 100% Curry. Of course we will cross that road, once we are able to get past OKC.

[apalisoc_9]

I think the Spurs are playing a Thunder team that is locked in, and are playing their best basketball of the season at a level that isn't much worse than the Warriors right now imo. I say that because they haven't look incredibly impressive either against really inferior competition fwiw. Lack of focus & boredom in the postseason? I don't know especially with the amount of talent they have. Spurs have a good shot of beating them without an 100% Curry. Of course we will cross that road, once we are able to get past OKC.

Yeah. Hopefully the tough series is a blessing.

Should sharpen up a few weakness. We are already seeing one in a more confident Parker. Just need to figure out a big rotation.

[gambit1990]

Damn..gambit is nowhere to be seen :lol
missed game 3 cause i was going to new orleans. missed game 4 because i was on my way back.


He's a front runner bro :lol he had a Patriots hat in his avi... Tbh
not a front runner. big patriots fan though. i only miss two or three games a year. i'm not a yankees fan too because i'm not fake. i have two teams: the spurs and the patriots. proud of both. losing to the giants twice sucked, but winning the other year felt good. with as many rings as brady has, as a fan, anymore would be gravy.

[Brazil]

He's having a great season off the bench, tbh..shouldn't be a starter, though, of course, although he probably wouldn't be worse than the alternative..

The Spurs don't have an above average starting-caliber PG anymore, unfortunately, unless Parker reverts to his November-December form(which is highly unlikely)..

:lol Apologize son... you will be forgiven

[K...]

missed game 3 cause i was going to new orleans. missed game 4 because i was on my way back.


not a front runner. big patriots fan though. i only miss two or three games a year. i'm not a yankees fan too because i'm not fake. i have two teams: the spurs and the patriots. proud of both. losing to the giants twice sucked, but winning the other year felt good. with as many rings as brady has, as a fan, anymore would be gravy.

No you're a front runner who hates baseball and thought mvparker was done. The Yankees havent been great on a decade. Your fakeness is proven by that disclosure. When did you become a patriots fan?

[SpurPadre]

CoJo is kicking ass right now...miss him, tbh.

[Kawhitstorm]

CoJo is kicking ass right now...miss him, tbh.

CoJo can't boxout Adams/Kanter:wakeup

[SpurPadre]

CoJo can't boxout Adams/Kanter:wakeup

he can dunk on them and wake the whole team up in the process, though.

[SpurPadre]

CoJo continues to show his scrub teammates how to play Championship ball, tbh.

[midnightpulp]

I'm always right. Tony was that 3rd guy last night, while Patty House was non-existent, per par.

[gambit1990]

I'm always right. Tony was that 3rd guy last night, while Patty House was non-existent, per par.
i'm dying :lmao

[dabom]

:lol

[HarlemHeat37]

His energy is so contagious, tbh..such an underrated player..

[timtonymanu]

Sucks if we have to lose Patty this offseason tbh. He should be starting.

[Nathan89]

Now that Kawhi is playing point-forward this can happen.

[midnightpulp]

i'm dying :lmao

:lol Comparing an opening night game to a playoff series.

If Patty is still playing like this at mid-season, talk to me then.

[gambit1990]

:lol Comparing an opening night game to a playoff series.

If Patty is still playing like this at mid-season, talk to me then.
keep digging your own grave.

[midnightpulp]

keep digging your own grave.

I didn't watch the game, but I see that "MVPatty" scored 6 of his 11 points in the 4th quarter when the Spurs were up over 20.

That's per par Patty. One of the greatest garbage time shooters in league history.

Let's not act he was crossing up Wardell and drilling step back 3's.

Again, talk to me if he sustains it.

[dabom]

I didn't watch the game, but I see that "MVPatty" scored 6 of his 11 points in the 4th quarter when the Spurs were up over 20.

That's per par Patty. One of the greatest garbage time shooters in league history.

Let's not act he was crossing up Wardell and drilling step back 3's.

Again, talk to me if he sustains it.

Watch the games next time. :lol

[gambit1990]

I didn't watch the game
:lol

[gambit1990]

keep talking mid.

[K...]

I didn't watch the game, but I see that "MVPatty" scored 6 of his 11 points in the 4th quarter when the Spurs were up over 20.

That's per par Patty. One of the greatest garbage time shooters in league history.

Let's not act he was crossing up Wardell and drilling step back 3's.

Again, talk to me if he sustains it.

No patty was legit today. Simmons was bigger, but patty was a very positive firce

[midnightpulp]

keep talking mid.

:lol Blowing your load after one game.

I guess we should start looking forward to Simmons in the All Star game, too.

Again, talk to me if he sustains it.

[midnightpulp]

No patty was legit today. Simmons was bigger, but patty was a very positive firce

I'm sure he was. But over the past 2 seasons, Patty has had problems with consistency.

I'm not claiming Parker is any better. Just highlighting the fact that our PG rotation is still below par, and even if Patty is better than Parker, he is still a better weapon to use off the bench.

[gambit1990]

:lol Blowing your load after one game.

I guess we should start looking forward to Simmons in the All Star game, too.

Again, talk to me if he sustains it.
the thread is about patty. you can't read?

[midnightpulp]

the thread is about patty. you can't read?

Yeah. Reading you blowing your load over one game, a game in which he scored 60% of his points in garbage time.

Once again, talk to me if he sustains it.

[gambit1990]

Yeah. Reading you blowing your load over one game, a game in which he scored 60% of his points in garbage time.

Once again, talk to me if he sustains it.
you didn't watch the game.

don't talk to me after you do.

[midnightpulp]

you didn't watch the game.

don't talk to me after you do.

So?

I've been watching Patty for 6 seasons now, including his Olympic play. I know his strengths. My point to you is blowing your load after one game so you can "bump" me makes you look like a desperate moron.

:lol One game

For the 20th time, talk to me when he sustains it.

[024]

At this point, Parker only starts so Patty can surprise everyone off the bench with his energy and shooting. I really hope Parker's minutes starts dropping into the low 20s. He's like Kyle Anderson out there. But at least Kyle Anderson has some size to contest shots and grab rebounds.

[Obstructed_View]

I didn't watch the game,

If you're so sure that he's going to stink in the long run, you'll have plenty of opportunities to say so. Until then, shut the fuck up. :)

[Boomersgold]

Yeah. Reading you blowing your load over one game, a game in which he scored 60% of his points in garbage time.

Once again, talk to me if he sustains it.

I don't think he has to prove anything. Patty's already proven that when he's on the floor, the Spurs do extremely well. The Spurs have had the no.1 bench in the NBA for a few seasons with Mills in the lineup (usually doing better than the starting lineup in terms of offensive and defensive production).

[midnightpulp]

If you're so sure that he's going to stink in the long run, you'll have plenty of opportunities to say so. Until then, shut the fuck up. :)

I'm not sure. That's the point I'm trying to make to moron.

In any event, starting Patty is still a dipshit idea since he's better utilized off the bench.

[midnightpulp]

I don't think he has to prove anything. Patty's already proven that when he's on the floor, the Spurs do extremely well. The Spurs have had the no.1 bench in the NBA for a few seasons with Mills in the lineup (usually doing better than the starting lineup in terms of offensive and defensive production).

Yes he does. So does Kawhi, LMA, Parker, and the whole roster.

"You're only as good as your last game."

[gambit1990]

For the 20th time, talk to me when he sustains it.
the spurs only play the warriors four times in the regular season.

tell us all about how great parker was as a third option tonight.

[Kawhitstorm]

His energy is so contagious, tbh..such an underrated player..

Great regular season backup but Austin Rivers is better in the postseason.:lol

[Obstructed_View]

I'm not sure. That's the point I'm trying to make to moron.

In any event, starting Patty is still a dipshit idea since he's better utilized off the bench.

Parker looked pretty bad, and the starting lineup really had no energy and no spark. Saying Patty should start is a lot less insane than saying Lapprovittola should start. :lol

[midnightpulp]

the spurs only play the warriors four times in the regular season.

tell us all about how great parker was as a third option tonight.

Yeah?

I'm talking about sustaining this level of play during the season.

Why do you still believe I think Parker is a 3rd option? Last season was last season, and this is a totally new season with a different roster. As it stands, I have no idea who the 3rd best scorer on this team is, and unlike your moronic ass, I won't blow my load over one game about Simmons.

Furthermore, I was totally correct about Parker being the 3rd option in the playoffs. Look here:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/2016-nba-western-conference-semifinals-thunder-vs-spurs.html

And check out your boy. 4ppg on .417 and .231 from 3. Even Tony shot better from downtown than the supposed "3 point specialist" Patty House :lol.

But like I said, it's a new season, and if Patty continues on this trajectory, I have little problem backing him over Parker. That still doesn't change the fact I was right (as usual) about Patty House last season, as the stats prove. His garbage shooting sank us in that series.

[gambit1990]

mid: "i didn't watch the game but i'm still right! :madrun:cry:cry:cry"

[gambit1990]

you're irrelevant mid. i don't need to address you anymore, you're a joke.

[midnightpulp]

mid: "i didn't watch the game but i'm still right! :madrun:cry:cry:cry"

Can you read?

You're using my take about Patty/Parker from last season in a pathetic effort to "bump" me because Patty had a better game than Parker on the first day of a new season, thinking my opinion is still the same. Weak trolling, bro :lol

I have no idea yet.

But as far as my take last season, I was 100% correct.

http://oi68.tinypic.com/dxea9s.jpg

I know you're desperate to outwit me, but you need to really think your shit through before you bump. Just confirms what everyone thinks about you; that you're a moron with takes as bad as Patty's shooting against OKC :lol

[gambit1990]

I didn't watch the game

[gambit1990]

mid doesn't know what he's talking about. and just still keeps talking.

[midnightpulp]

I didn't watch the game

So desperate :lol

[itzsoweezee]

Patty coming hard for that number one spot. Tony's got to be worried now.