Republican Speaker of The House Guilty of Fondeling Teenage Boys

[Koolaid_Man]

:lol no not Paul Ryan but rather former speaker Dennis Hastert....

In a memo in advance of an April 27 sentencing hearing, prosecutors spelled out in graphic detail how Hastert sexually molested or inappropriately touched five teenagers who trusted him as their wrestling coach.

One — who said he was a 14-year-old freshman when the abuse occurred — alleged that Hastert told him to get on a table so he could “loosen him up,” then massaged and performed a sex act on him. Another — who said he was 17 years old when the abuse occurred — alleged that Hastert offered him a massage to help him cut weight, then performed a sex act on him. That victim said Hastert kept a chair in direct view of the locker room shower stalls. Hastert paid him 1.7 million to keep quiet.

[boutons_deux]

The party of family values, Bible humpers, God's own party.

[boutons_deux]

Perhaps no letter is quite as striking as the one sent by former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Texas), who told the judge (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-dennis-hastert-letters-met-20160422-story.html), “We all have our flaws, but Dennis Hastert has very few.”

It’s almost like an ugly punch line to an inappropriate joke: Hastert’s few “flaws” include being accused of sexually abusing several minors and then orchestrating a scheme to cover up his alleged misdeeds.

DeLay added that Hastert “doesn’t deserve what he is going through.”

No, seriously, that’s what he said.

Look, I’m not trying to belabor the point, but according to federal prosecutors (http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/prosecutors-urge-prison-sentence-dennis-hastert),

Hastert “made payments to a man who was sexually abused at age 14 by Hastert when he was the boy’s wrestling coach. Prosecutors said

the abuse also involved ‘other minors,’ and included touching their genitals or engaging in oral sex.”

Those same court filings highlighted “private one-on-one encounters in an empty locker room and a motel room with minors that violated the special trust between those young boys and their coach.”

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/hasterts-allies-plead-leniency-former-house-speaker?cid=sm_fb_maddow

Delay, typical TX Repug bag of shit.

[CosmicCowboy]

So are you guys homophobic now?

[boutons_deux]

So are you guys homophobic now?

:lol I'm anti-child-molester, anti-sexual predator.

[Winehole23]

So are you guys homophobic now?consensual affairs between consenting adults aren't at issue here. surely you can grasp the difference between love among equals and an adult abusing children and his position of trust.

[Winehole23]

or, maybe you can't

[CosmicCowboy]

consensual affairs between consenting adults aren't at issue here. surely you can grasp the difference between love among equals and an adult abusing children and his position of trust.

I was just fucking with bookaki but personally I couldn't see myself when I was a teenager letting some coach stroke my dick. Maybe have been a little consenting going on? (understanding that they wern't legal age of consent)

And no, I'm not defending the perv.

[Winehole23]

they were askin for it. it's not hard to believe you went there.

were you raised to be this way, merely straining to offend, or just naturally an asshole?

[TheSanityAnnex]

:cry

[CosmicCowboy]

they were askin for it. it's not hard to believe you went there.

were you raised to be this way, merely straining to offend, or just naturally an asshole?

BooHoo

Seriously....would you let a coach stroke your cock when you were 14?

[Winehole23]

I don't think so, but my coaches never tried. How can you be so sure what you would have done?

[Winehole23]

or that Hastert's victims consented?

[Winehole23]

does not saying no or not fighting off the aggressor amount to consent in your mind?

[Winehole23]

if yes, then you are essentially defending the actions of a child molester by suggesting that minor children consented

[CosmicCowboy]

does not saying no or not fighting off the aggressor amount to consent in your mind?

Are you proposing he aggressively and physically overcame them so he could stroke their cock?

[Winehole23]

I have no idea. I wasn't there.

Is is not child abuse if the child doesn't resist?

[Winehole23]

I don't see that as mitigating and neither does the law.

Do you?

[CosmicCowboy]

I don't see that as mitigating and neither does the law.

Do you?

nope. Like I said, I'm not defending Hastert.

I just know when I was fourteen he wouldn't have been messing with MY cock.

Although I admit letting him do it and then blackmailing him to keep silent was pretty smart.

[Winehole23]

you salute the cunning of Hastert's victims and accuse them of blackmail.

what evidence do you have for that, or is this yet another PFA assumption, like the supposed consent of the boys Hastert abused?

[I. Hustle]

Whoa whoa whoa. They should beat the shit out of this dude. He would probably like it though. That sick POS. I'll never understand what goes through the mind of an Avante and I never want to.

[CosmicCowboy]

you salute the cunning of Hastert's victims and accuse them of blackmail.

what evidence do you have for that, or is this yet another PFA assumption, like the supposed consent of the boys Hastert abused?

The charges said he paid a BUNCH of hush money to the victim. I doubt he did this voluntarily.

[Winehole23]

reasonable inferences aren't evidence of anything but your own state of mind

[Winehole23]

you think Hastert is the victim and that the boys he abused are the criminals: they consented to the abuse, then blackmailed Hastert, correct?

[boutons_deux]

The charges said he paid a BUNCH of hush money to the victim. I doubt he did this voluntarily.

and one of the victims is suing for for $1.8M, iirc

[CosmicCowboy]

you think Hastert is the victim and that the boys he abused are the criminals: they consented to the abuse, then blackmailed Hastert, correct?

Yes, they were minors under the age of consent who obviously consented.

Yes, a large amount of hush money was paid.

I'm not saying it was right but those are the facts of the case.

[boutons_deux]

Yes, they were minors under the age of consent who obviously consented.

:lol "obviously consented" :lol evidence? :lol

[CosmicCowboy]

:lol "obviously consented" :lol evidence? :lol

You probably have more experience at this than I do, but logic tells me that it would have been extremely difficult for the coach to play with his dick if the 14 year old athlete was resisting.

[boutons_deux]

You probably have more experience at this than I do, but logic tells me that it would have been extremely difficult for the coach to play with his dick if the 14 year old athlete was resisting.

Logic? :lol

[CosmicCowboy]

Logic? :lol

I realize that logic is an alien concept to you.

[boutons_deux]

I realize that logic is an alien concept to you.

your "logic" places you in the shower, locker room with Hasturd and his victims, and in the victims' heads. :lol

[FuzzyLumpkins]

nope. Like I said, I'm not defending Hastert.

I just know when I was fourteen he wouldn't have been messing with MY cock.

Although I admit letting him do it and then blackmailing him to keep silent was pretty smart.

The allusion that the victims should have fought back more insinuating that they consented is a defense of Hastert, dipshit.

[CosmicCowboy]

The allusion that the victims should have fought back more insinuating that they consented is a defense of Hastert, dipshit.

No it''s not dipshit.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

No it''s not dipshit.

Attacking the victim's motive and role is supporting the convicted. You can repeat yourself again now.

[TheSanityAnnex]

:lol "obviously consented" :lol evidence? :lol

Don't know about "obviously consented" but it sure reads like it was a couple of gay boys consenting to massages and happy endings.

Glad to hear the abuser was blackmailed and then got caught.

[Winehole23]

TSA doubles down. White knight or sock puppet?

Does it matter?

[Winehole23]

they both have the same point: Denny Hastert is the real victim here.

[CosmicCowboy]

they both have the same point: Denny Hastert is the real victim here.

nope. Dudes a perv. But it was apparently not black and white. More like black and dark gray.

[Trill Clinton]

i can't believe y'all are surprised by trollcowboy victim blaming. this is the same creep who said if his daughter made claims of being molested, he wouldn't believe her.

[Winehole23]

nope. Dudes a perv. But it was apparently not black and white. More like black and dark gray.based on what? your intuition?

[CosmicCowboy]

based on what? your intuition?

Based on the fact that a 14 year old athlete doesn't have to just lay there with an erection while a grown man jacks him off.

And I'm fine with Hastert going to jail.

[CosmicCowboy]

i can't believe y'all are surprised by trollcowboy victim blaming. this is the same creep who said if his daughter made claims of being molested, he wouldn't believe her.

you are a blatant liar and still a total piece of shit.

[Trill Clinton]

you are a blatant liar and still a total piece of shit.

So you're saying you didn't say that? When I get out of class I'll post the qoutes of you saying if your daughter made an outcry of sexual abuse by a family member, you would not believe her.

[CosmicCowboy]

So you're saying you didn't say that? When I get out of class I'll post the qoutes of you saying if your daughter made an outcry of sexual abuse by a family member, you would not believe her.

like I said, lying piece of shit.

[Trill Clinton]

i'm a lying piece of shit.

yes, we know

[Blake]

:cry

Wow

[boutons_deux]

Based on the fact that a 14 year old athlete doesn't have to just lay there with an erection while a grown man jacks him off.

And I'm fine with Hastert going to jail.

you're just fine with a statutory rapist while victimizing his victims. SOP for you rightwingnut LGBT haters.

[CosmicCowboy]

you're just fine with a statutory rapist while victimizing the his victims. SOP for you rightwingnut LGBT haters.

Bookaki reading comprehension as usual.

[TheSanityAnnex]

they both have the same point: Denny Hastert is the real victim here.

What part of glad to hear the abuser was blackmailed and then got caught are you having trouble understanding?

[TheSanityAnnex]

Wow

That was directed at Winehole, not the two kids who got fellated.

[CosmicCowboy]

What part of glad to hear the abuser was blackmailed and then got caught are you having trouble understanding?

I'm having the same issue. I'm glad the cocksucker is going to jail.

i'm not "blaming" the kids but the fact is those 14 year old athletes were apparently willing to lay there with erections and get jerked off to a happy ending and then willing to accept lots of money to keep silent.

[TheSanityAnnex]

I'm having the same issue. I'm glad the cocksucker is going to jail.

i'm not "blaming" the kids but the fact is those 14 year old athletes were apparently willing to lay there with erections and get jerked off to a happy ending and then willing to accept lots of money to keep silent.

The "went to get a massage to lose weight" had me chuckling.

[Shastafarian]

Holy shit. Two people here defending a child molester. And before you morons repeat, "I'm not defending him" you very clearly are. It's obvious you don't understand WHY age of consent laws exist.

:lol
Athletic children would never be molested if they didn't want to be. I'm NOT defending the molester libtard!

[TheSanityAnnex]

Holy shit. Two people here defending a child molester. And before you morons repeat, "I'm not defending him" you very clearly are. It's obvious you don't understand WHY age of consent laws exist.

:lol

The guy is still a molester and I'm glad he got caught, but I just don't buy a 17 year old going in for a weight loss massage was forced to get his dick sucked.

[DisAsTerBot]

The guy is still a molester and I'm glad he got caught, but I just don't buy a 17 year old going in for a weight loss massage was forced to get his dick sucked.

so you don't believe a sexual assault took place here but you do believe public restrooms will be a sexual assault playground. good to know.

[TheSanityAnnex]

so you don't believe a sexual assault took place here but you do believe public restrooms will be a sexual assault playground. good to know.
Can a sexual assault occur even if both participants are willing yes or no?

[DisAsTerBot]

can a minor give consent?

[Shastafarian]

The guy is still a molester and I'm glad he got caught, but I just don't buy a 17 year old going in for a weight loss massage was forced to get his dick sucked.

:lol Unreal. Let's say for the sake of an idiotic argument that the one 17 year old was consensual (even though that man says he was scarred for life). What about the others? Hastert must have just been really adept at picking out the underage boys who would consent. RIGHT?

[TheSanityAnnex]

:lol Unreal. Let's say for the sake of an idiotic argument that the one 17 year old was consensual (even though that man says he was scarred for life). What about the others? Hastert must have just been really adept at picking out the underage boys who would consent. RIGHT?
The guy is a molester. Not sure why you're having trouble here

[TheSanityAnnex]

can a minor give consent?
You are going in circles here. He is a molester, he did committ a sexual assault. I think they were both willing.

[Shastafarian]

The guy is a molester. Not sure why you're having trouble here


The guy is still a molester and I'm glad he got caught, but I just don't buy a 17 year old going in for a weight loss massage was forced to get his dick sucked.You're defending him without even acknowledging you're doing so. This is you defending an admitted child molester. A child molester who doesn't even agree with you.

[Winehole23]

What part of glad to hear the abuser was blackmailed and then got caught are you having trouble understanding?I can see you're straining to say the right thing. Rings hollow.

[Winehole23]

CC and TSA defending a child molester. Pathetic.

[Winehole23]

Those randy boys ruined his reputation.:cry

[Winehole23]

Hastert had a good lawyer. It speaks volumes that CC and TSA volunteered to defend him and smear his victims here.

[Winehole23]

would they have done the same for a child molesting liberal? very doubtful, but y'all are welcome to prove me wrong.

do you defend liberal child molesters and smear their victims online?

[Winehole23]

be specific, if you can

[CosmicCowboy]

CC and TSA defending a child molester. Pathetic.

C'mon, Winehole. I'm not defending Hastert. Quit making shit up. I think he is a pervert and I'm glad he is going to jail.


As for the teenage athletes involved? Sorry I'm not as sympathetic as you are.

#1) The athletes apparently obviously got erections. I don't know about you, but adult men don't give me erections.
#2) The athletes apparently passively allowed Hastert to masturbate and suck their cocks.

do you dispute these facts?

I grew up in athletics with coaches in junior high, high school, and college. I can't fucking imagine sitting there passively and letting one suck my cock.

[MultiTroll]

Blake and FromWayDowntown,

Are you fine with the 15 month sentence? It's constitutional, you know. Out in what, 8 months?

“The defendant is a serial child molester,” said Judge Thomas M. Durkin of Federal District Court, as Mr. Hastert sat impassively, often staring downward, hands crossed on his lap. He added, “Some actions can obliterate a lifetime of good works. Nothing is more stunning than having ‘serial child molester’ and ‘speaker of the House’ in the same sentence.”

Mr. Hastert was not charged with sexual abuse because statutes of limitation for acts in the 1960s and ’70s have run out; the judge noted pointedly that punishment for such a conviction would have been far worse.

So some phucktard politicians, years ago using their Constitutional power, decided that serial child molesters should have a statue of limitations put on their serial child molesting accountability.

[MultiTroll]

Investigate Tom DeLay for underage cock sucking and attempted witness tampering? :makemyday

Tom DeLay, the former House majority leader — had sent letters to Judge Durkin. “He doesn’t deserve what he is going through,” Mr. DeLay wrote.

[Shastafarian]

I'm not defending Hastert. Whew glad we cleared that up.



As for the teenage athletes involved? Sorry I'm not as sympathetic as you are.

#1) The athletes apparently obviously got erections. I don't know about you, but adult men don't give me erections.
#2) The athletes apparently passively allowed Hastert to masturbate and suck their cocks.Whoops! This is you, not for the first time, defending the child molester. How on earth can you not understand your attempts to justify his actions are a defense of his actions? Why do you defend admitted child molesters? You actually make me a little sick. If I met you in person I'd probably have to leave the room for fear of physically vomiting all over your face.


I grew up in athletics with coaches in junior high, high school, and college. I can't fucking imagine sitting there passively and letting one suck my cock.
I bet you try to imagine it though.

[Shastafarian]

would they have done the same for a child molesting liberal? very doubtful, but y'all are welcome to prove me wrong.

do you defend liberal child molesters and smear their victims online?

[SnakeBoy]

C'mon, Winehole. I'm not defending Hastert. Quit making shit up. I think he is a pervert and I'm glad he is going to jail.


As for the teenage athletes involved? Sorry I'm not as sympathetic as you are.

#1) The athletes apparently obviously got erections. I don't know about you, but adult men don't give me erections.
#2) The athletes apparently passively allowed Hastert to masturbate and suck their cocks.

do you dispute these facts?

I grew up in athletics with coaches in junior high, high school, and college. I can't fucking imagine sitting there passively and letting one suck my cock.

What's your point? The boys that were molested must have been gay?

[CosmicCowboy]

Whats your point? Have you ever gotten an erection with a man?

[Nbadan]

Don't trust your kids around Tom DeLayed...


DeLay wrote that Hastert, whom he helped position as speaker, never disappointed him "in any way." He pointed to their shared faith, writing that Hastert started a Bible study between the two of them and a pastor.

"We all have our flaws, but Dennis Hastert has very few. He is a good man that loves the lord," DeLay wrote. "He gets his integrity and values from Him. He doesn't deserve what he is going through."

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/tom-delay-letter-support-hastert

[Winehole23]

Whats your point? Have you ever gotten an erection with a man?Did you ever have nonconsensual sexual contact with a trusted male role model?

Is sexual arousal voluntary or involuntary? If the latter, why does it matter to you if a child consents to the actions of his/her abuser or even reciprocates, and how does that mitigate the crime, if at all?

[Winehole23]

are you arguing that the contact was consensual?

if so, why should that matter in this case?

[Winehole23]

I think they were both willing.

[Winehole23]

I bet you try to imagine it though.No betting necessary. Read through the thread.

CC sketches it out for us: greedy, randy queers blackmailed Denny Hastert. He describes it in explicit detail.

[Winehole23]

WH23:you think Hastert is the victim and that the boys he abused are the criminals: they consented to the abuse, then blackmailed Hastert, correct?


CC: Yes, they were minors under the age of consent who obviously consented.

Yes, a large amount of hush money was paid.


.

[Winehole23]

and that's just the PG version

[Winehole23]

Whats your point? Have you ever gotten an erection with a man?

[Winehole23]

Enquiring minds want to know, has there ever been an imagination more in synch with the imperatives of a throbbing dick and so dismissive of underage targets of opportunity?

[Winehole23]

Be specific, if you can

[clambake]

good stuff

[Shastafarian]

While having fun showing the rest of the political forum the true nature of CC and TSA, I realized who they remind me of. Hat McCullough supporters. FREE HAT! FREE HAT! He killed those babies in self defense! :rollin

http://www.hulu.com/watch/250027

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Don't trust your kids around Tom DeLayed...


http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/tom-delay-letter-support-hastert

You see this type of shit regularly when pedos are outed in churches. Ideology is what it is and the cognitive dissonance is a bitch.

[clambake]

hey, he was like an authority figure that knew how to manipulate young boys.

much like the relationship between cheney and bush.

[boutons_deux]

Congress surprisingly silent on Hastert's misdeeds

Rachel Maddow notes that while some organizations have acted to distance themselves from former House Speaker Dennis Hastert, his most famous association, the House of Representatives, has yet to offer any reprimand or censure to the longest serving Republican ...

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/congress-oddly-silent-on-hastert-sex-crimes-690041411973?cid=sm_fb_maddow