Takeaways....

[Gagnrath]

There are some important things to be learned from tonights game.

1. The spurs defense can hold the Warriors offense in check...

2. Driving and posting Curry will get him in foul trouble but the refs will swallow their whistles... This is an advantage for the spurs.

3. We can generate open looks.

4. Moving picks and reaching swipes at the ball are fine.

5. Kahwi can defend and score with the best in the league but isn't ready to lead a team yet.

6.Manu and Tim are the teams heart and soul....(I think Tim comes back I think Many doesn't dependent on Tim recovering fully from his leg injury)

7. Parker isn't really transitioning his game as he ages... This is bad.

8. Mills is a decent backup offensive minded Point Guard. He can't hold his own against top point guards though....

9. Aldridge is a skilled big who can play big and physical but doesn't like to.

10. Diaw is a good player to take pressure off of the spurs weak back court.

Is there a good way for the spurs to keep Duncan on the floor in a series against the Dubs? I think Cortisone in the knees is a good start immediately after the last game of the second round. Put him on Bogut whenever he is on the floor. He will be limited in minutes against super small line-ups. Someone needs to fix Danny quick.... Not sure how maybe just put a hundred on the court under balls around the three point line give him time on an open catch and shoot. Every ball he makes he keeps a $ everyone he misses he looses one of that hundred.... With the time and the practice he should get his mechanics and confidence back.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

takeaways: fuck my life

[DarrinS]

I don't take anything away from this game.

[baseline bum]

My take away is the Spurs are going to need LDN to get hot to beat this Warriors team 4 out of 7. Or a monster series from Manu. Or Curry or Thompson is going to have to be banged up for a couple of games. I take away that the Warriors are the perfect roster for beating the Spurs. They have lots of long wings to throw on Kawhi and completely take him out of the offense. Parker is borderline unplayable against them and Duncan is probably over that border unless Bogut is in. You gotta hammer them inside with Aldridge and Diaw and hope it gets Green, Leonard, Mills, and Ginobili open threes. I know mid is hammering on the Spurs needing to attack the basket with their guards, but they don't have anyone like that since Parker got old, so it's gotta be the post.

[hater]

#1 this team completely owns us.

[baseline bum]

And I also take away that this Warriors team is probably the best I have ever seen. The only team I have seen that I'd put in their class is the 85-86 Celtics, who could cause some real matchup nightmares for them.

[UZER]

Takeaway: Pop just rolled the ball out today. No strategy involved at all.

Takeaway: Must find a way to punish Raymond's ridiculous cheating off his man when Curry gets switched on a big and is getting posted. Dude just completely ignores his man from anywhere on the court and goes to stand by curry, even before the big gets the ball in the post.

Gotta run a play that causes the curry switch to the big, but that is actually the decoy to set up the guy Green is gonna help off of.

[midnightpulp]

My take away is the Spurs are going to need LDN to get hot to beat this Warriors team 4 out of 7. Or a monster series from Manu. Or Curry or Thompson is going to have to be banged up for a couple of games. I take away that the Warriors are the perfect roster for beating the Spurs. They have lots of long wings to throw on Kawhi and completely take him out of the offense. Parker is borderline unplayable against them and Duncan is probably over that border unless Bogut is in. You gotta hammer them inside with Aldridge and Diaw and hope it gets Green, Leonard, Mills, and Ginobili open threes. I know mid is hammering on the Spurs needing to attack the basket with their guards, but they don't have anyone like that since Parker got old, so it's gotta be the post.

Or Kawhi (or a throwback Manu). He was developing that dribble-drive game all year. Kobe/Jordan style mid-range posting/jumpers won't work against the Warriors over a series, because like you said, too much length.

Hammering them inside will work for a game or two, and then the Warriors will just go '04 Phil Jackson, pack and swarm the paint, and force Danny (Hedo), Patty (Horry) to make 3s.

[Spurtacular]

1. The spurs defense can hold the Warriors offense in check...

At home especially. Either way, the offense needs to be more consistent. Guys need to stop waiting for the next guy to make a shot. You can see guys shooting as a last second choice, and that is always a recipe for a miss.

[RD2191]

Man, how pussy are today's big men that no one can seem to shit all over their midget ball center/pf? Fucking prime Tim would destroy these faggots. Robinson, Hakeem, Shaq, man, I miss beast centers/pf.

[baseline bum]

Or Kawhi (or a throwback Manu). He was developing that dribble-drive game all year. Kobe/Jordan style mid-range posting/jumpers won't work against the Warriors over a series, because like you said, too much length.


Kawhi isn't Westbrook and this isn't 05 Ginobili.



Hammering them inside will work for a game or two, and then the Warriors will just go '04 Phil Jackson, pack and swarm the paint, and force Danny (Hedo), Patty (Horry) to make 3s.

And the Spurs have to hit them. Green's going to have to get hot for the series to be winnable.

[Spurtacular]

4. Moving picks and reaching swipes at the ball are fine.

GS is constantly getting away with moving picks on the weak side to open up Curry after the strong side option has failed. Spurs either need to complain or pro-actively push the picks into the roller.

[Spurtacular]

5. Kahwi can defend and score with the best in the league but isn't ready to lead a team yet.

He's developed the tools to do it and has done so. You can tell when he is not confident though. He is too afraid to fail.

[webshad]

Man, how pussy are today's big men that no one can seem to shit all over their midget ball center/pf? Fucking prime Tim would destroy these faggots. Robinson, Hakeem, Shaq, man, I miss beast centers/pf.

Shaq vs Draymond :married: will make him his wife

Even worse, is Hakeem! lol

[Spurtacular]

6. Manu and Tim are the teams heart and soul....(I think Tim comes back I think Many doesn't dependent on Tim recovering fully from his leg injury)

But Tim can't be getting the ball slapped away like in Oakland. Tim unfortunately is not a great option vs. GS. He'll be pivotal in every other series though.

[midnightpulp]

Man, how pussy are today's big men that no one can seem to shit all over their midget ball center/pf? Fucking prime Tim would destroy these faggots. Robinson, Hakeem, Shaq, man, I miss beast centers/pf.

It's not that simple. Yes, the Warriors get beaten up inside one-on-one, but since they have a wealth of long, athletic wing defenders, they can swarm/double the post and still recover in time to defend kickouts to 3 point shooters. It's not that today's bigs can't whip Raymond's ass one-on-one, they can't whip 3 or 4 guys smothering them.

http://www.goldenstateofmind.com/2016/2/21/11081344/warriors-vs-clippers-video-2016-highlights-warriors-defense-stephen-curry-draymond-green

[Gagnrath]

Or both.

[baseline bum]

Another takeaway: this is an incredible Spurs team, at worst the third best team in franchise history, and yet the Warriors can take them out of everything they want to do offensively. These Warriors are just an unbelievable two way team. The only team I have ever seen that could take the Spurs out of their offense like this was the 01 Lakers, and that Spurs team was nowhere close to as good as this one even with a prime Duncan.

[Spurtacular]

7. Parker isn't really transitioning his game as he ages... This is bad.

Bad shot selection and a lack of penetration. He and Kawhi need to be more aggressive. But none of this fading left early in the shot clock shooting up 20 footers sh** from Parker.

[Spurtacular]

8. Mills is a decent backup offensive minded Point Guard. He can't hold his own against top point guards though....

Mills is instant can of offense. Overplaying can backfire. He's good in a 25 minute per game scenario.

[hater]

Another takeaway: this is an incredible Spurs team, at worst the third best team in franchise history, and yet the Warriors can take them out of everything they want to do offensively. These Warriors are just an unbelievable two way team. The only team I have ever seen that could take the Spurs out of their offense like this was the 01 Lakers, and that Spurs team was nowhere close to as good as this one even with a prime Duncan.

A prime Duncan could take the team on his back on stretches or entire games.

This spursteam has NOBODY that can do that. Kawhi is an overrated role player and Lamar is a choker.

I'll take the 01 Spurs team 101 times out of 100 over this soft ass team.

[Spurtacular]

9. Aldridge is a skilled big who can play big and physical but doesn't like to.

Because that's not his wheelhouse on offense. But he's been doing well. I don't think we can expect him to be so independently great. As I said, others need to step up.

[Gagnrath]

It's not that simple. Yes, the Warriors get beaten up inside one-on-one, but since they have a wealth of long, athletic wing defenders, they can swarm/double the post and still recover in time to defend kickouts to 3 point shooters. It's not that today's bigs can't whip Raymond's ass one-on-one, they can't whip 3 or 4 guys smothering them.

http://www.goldenstateofmind.com/2016/2/21/11081344/warriors-vs-clippers-video-2016-highlights-warriors-defense-stephen-curry-draymond-green

Catch the ball deeper in back jabstep to get a hip around then pivot while dribbling.... Either green fouls or the help is to late.... Getting the pass and moving decisively is key... The problem is the swipe across the wrist as your going up with the ball rarely gets called on green.

[Spurtacular]

10. Diaw is a good player to take pressure off of the spurs weak back court.

On defense as well. Having to play Parker and Mills at the same time was leaving Thompson, Barnes, Livingston with easy 1 v 1 post ups. Diaw allows the Spurs to play bigger. Playing Simmons some can eradicate much of that as well. Even Martin isn't as much of a sitting duck; and if he can get more comfortable in the Spurs offense, we'll have more flexibility.

[UZER]

Takeaway: Shoot the open shot you're given with confidence. Stop pump faking and driving into the sagging defense, or pump faking and taking one dribble then picking up the ball.

[HarlemHeat37]

Didn't really learn anything new, tbh..

The contrast in versatility between these 2 teams is the most egregious disadvantage for the Spurs IMO..Warriors can make situational substitutions without losing too much on either end, which is a luxury the Spurs don't have, unfortunately..the offense is much worse when Duncan and Green are on the floor, but the defense has a massive drop-off when they're off the floor, there isn't much of a middle ground with this team..

[spursistan]

Didn't really learn anything new, tbh..

The contrast in versatility between these 2 teams is the most egregious disadvantage for the Spurs IMO..
your prediction if series started today? i have Warriors in 5..i have feeling Clippers will give them the harder series...

[HarlemHeat37]

your prediction if series started today? i have Warriors in 5..i have feeling Clippers will give them the harder series...

Warriors in 6..their style of play makes them vulnerable to off-games(as we saw in last year's playoffs) and Spurs are too good at home to not win 2 IMO..

[UZER]

Kerr coaches like its personal against Pop. Pop coaches like, meh it's just basketball. Every time Pop subs someone, Kerr immediately subs his counter. He coaches his little heart out against SA.

I think it goes back to the Pop telling Kerr he was wearing too many hats when Kerr was saying Duncan should've been suspended too in '07 on a TNT broadcast after he had recently been named the PHX GM. :lol

Hopefully it changes for Pop in the playoffs.

[HarlemHeat37]

Kerr coaches like its personal against Pop. Pop coaches like, meh it's just basketball. Every time Pop subs someone, Kerr immediately subs his counter. He coaches his little heart out against SA.

I think it goes back to the Pop telling Kerr he was wearing too many hats when Kerr was saying Duncan should've been suspended too in '07 on a TNT broadcast after he had recently been named the PHX GM. :lol

Hopefully it changes for Pop in the playoffs.

Kerr's options are much more diverse than Pop's, to be fair..he can go 8-deep with players that are at least competent on both sides of the ball:lol..

[spurraider21]

:lmao when the spurs lose "there's no takeaway" or "pop wasn't trying" but when the spurs win "we own this team"

the warriors are the better team and will rightfully be favored

[Gagnrath]

Because that's not his wheelhouse on offense. But he's been doing well. I don't think we can expect him to be so independently great. As I said, others need to step up.

I don't disagree with you that it isn't what makes him comfortable... That his 8 to 12 foot turnaround jumper from the high post is however he does have a pretty good post game,(probably 3rd or 4th best in the game today) that he pulled out two or three times per year in Portland. Aldridge, Davis, and Rasheed Wallace are of the same mold there, good effective post players that have a pretty decent jump shot, sometimes between not wanting to really work underneath and the fact that the jump shot is effective they fall a bit to in love with the jumper to the detriment of both said jumper and low post bunnies/fliphooks.

[skulls138]

LMA didnt get paid all that money to be an offensive specialist. This isnt the New York Knicks. LMA needs to take care of ALL his responsibilities. If the perimeter defenders are out there defending there ass off and a Warrior gets an easy offensive rebound being literally right under the basket, thats no bueno por caca. No doubt we need his O and he DID look good but it is what it is. The Warriors are possibly the best team of all time.

[Spurtacular]

:lmao when the spurs lose "there's no takeaway" or "pop wasn't trying" but when the spurs win "we own this team"

the warriors are the better team and will rightfully be favored

:lmao Warriors fanboy take.

[spurraider21]

:lmao Warriors fanboy take.
:lmao d-league fanboy

[Rob123]

The problem is fucking kawhi. Tony Parker, Danny green, manu, you know what they're gonna give you game in and game out. They aren't what they used to be but they're all serviceable. The problem is we need kawhi to play like 25 year old Tim and for whatever reason the dude is just too much of a fucking pussy to shoulder the load. Millineals are fucking weaklings wake this kid the fuck up, could you imagine 25
Yr old Kobe, Jordan, Timmy, or lebron playing like such a fag??

[TampaDude]

LMA didnt get paid all that money to be an offensive specialist. This isnt the New York Knicks. LMA needs to take care of ALL his responsibilities. If the perimeter defenders are out there defending there ass off and a Warrior gets an easy offensive rebound being literally right under the basket, thats no bueno por caca. No doubt we need his O and he DID look good but it is what it is. The Warriors are possibly the best team of all time.

If they win 73 games and the title this year, they WILL be the best team of all time.

[Spurtacular]

If they win 73 games and the title this year, they WILL be the best team of all time.

I guess if you want to see it that way....

[TampaDude]

I guess if you want to see it that way....

If you're talking about best single-season performance ever, 73-9 + championship = GOAT, no contest.

Now if you're talking about SUSTAINED excellence, that is another story entirely. One could say that the Spurs are the GOAT in that category. Showtime Lakers and Jordan Bulls are in that realm as well.

[Hoops Czar]

There are some important things to be learned from tonights game.

1. The spurs defense can hold the Warriors offense in check... No it can't

2. Driving and posting Curry will get him in foul trouble but the refs will swallow their whistles... This is an advantage for the spurs. GS has depth. They don't need Curry to score 30 points to win. They actually opened up the game with him on the bench.

3. We can generate open looks. What's the point if you can't hit them. Spurs took some of the most ridiculously looking forced shots in this game while the Spurs historic defense was getting pwned.

4. Moving picks and reaching swipes at the ball are fine.

5. Kahwi can defend and score with the best in the league but isn't ready to lead a team yet. He can't lead when the Spurs are a two trick pony. He'll be suffocated in the playoffs because the Spurs only other option is a mid range jump shooter. Ask Portland how well that worked out for them.

6.Manu and Tim are the teams heart and soul....(I think Tim comes back I think Many doesn't dependent on Tim recovering fully from his leg injury)This schtik needs to die.

7. Parker isn't really transitioning his game as he ages... This is bad.Where's his help?

8. Mills is a decent backup offensive minded Point Guard. He can't hold his own against top point guards though.... No he's not

9. Aldridge is a skilled big who can play big and physical but doesn't like to. GS's plan of attack would be to take out KL and let LMA do whatever the fuck they want resulting in a Spurs loss

10. Diaw is a good player to take pressure off of the spurs weak back court. Diaw is a decent player having a miserable season

Is there a good way for the spurs to keep Duncan on the floor in a series against the Dubs? I think Cortisone in the knees is a good start immediately after the last game of the second round. Put him on Bogut whenever he is on the floor. He will be limited in minutes against super small line-ups. Someone needs to fix Danny quick.... Not sure how maybe just put a hundred on the court under balls around the three point line give him time on an open catch and shoot. Every ball he makes he keeps a $ everyone he misses he looses one of that hundred.... With the time and the practice he should get his mechanics and confidence back.

[RD2191]

The problem is fucking kawhi. Tony Parker, Danny green, manu, you know what they're gonna give you game in and game out. They aren't what they used to be but they're all serviceable. The problem is we need kawhi to play like 25 year old Tim and for whatever reason the dude is just too much of a fucking pussy to shoulder the load. Millineals are fucking weaklings wake this kid the fuck up, could you imagine 25
Yr old Kobe, Jordan, Timmy, or lebron playing like such a fag??
Yeah our best player is the problem. You should consider suicide tbh.

[Gagnrath]

The problem is fucking kawhi. Tony Parker, Danny green, manu, you know what they're gonna give you game in and game out. They aren't what they used to be but they're all serviceable. The problem is we need kawhi to play like 25 year old Tim and for whatever reason the dude is just too much of a fucking pussy to shoulder the load. Millineals are fucking weaklings wake this kid the fuck up, could you imagine 25
Yr old Kobe, Jordan, Timmy, or lebron playing like such a fag??

The guy had a 20 and 12 game with good defense on an all star. His jumper wasn't falling after about halfway through the second quarter. What are you wanting from the guy really? He needs a little help say both of his starting guards who played 20+ minutes scoring 8 points each? That would have changed pretty much everything in this game

[Gagnrath]

Czar held them pretty well most of the night save for the third quarter. 92 points is an NBA offense in check.

Who would you rather have in the NBA as a backup point? I am curious which guys starting fewer than 25% of the games you would prefer?

Parkers help would be having an all-star big to run pick and pops with, as well as an all star small forward shooting 40% from the arc for the season that you can pass to and raise your assist numbers. Oh and how about having a defensive center you have played with for 10 years cleaning up for you when you get beat off the dribble or two reserve forwards who can pass and bring the ball up when you get in trouble one of which you've played with regularly since you were 15.


Other than many and Tim who else provides player leadership on the team... Diaw and Parker both have other priorities. Kahwi is a good example but isn't vocal. Aldridge is new and doesn't really lead. Green hangs out with snakes for a reason.... West maybe but he's also new and not a top player on the team.

[Spurtacular]

If you're talking about best single-season performance ever, 73-9 + championship = GOAT, no contest.

I don't see it that way. I don't think the Warriors would be the 86 C's. Records are superficial between eras, tbh.

[Darius Bieber]

LOL at the Spurs defense holding the Warriors in check. Curry will get his, no problem.

[DieHardSpursFan1537]

My take away is the Spurs are going to need LDN to get hot to beat this Warriors team 4 out of 7. Or a monster series from Manu. Or Curry or Thompson is going to have to be banged up for a couple of games. I take away that the Warriors are the perfect roster for beating the Spurs. They have lots of long wings to throw on Kawhi and completely take him out of the offense. Parker is borderline unplayable against them and Duncan is probably over that border unless Bogut is in. You gotta hammer them inside with Aldridge and Diaw and hope it gets Green, Leonard, Mills, and Ginobili open threes. I know mid is hammering on the Spurs needing to attack the basket with their guards, but they don't have anyone like that since Parker got old, so it's gotta be the post.

Curry injury coming in the second round tbh. I dunno why I'm saying that. Just feels like he's gonna fuck up his left leg again at some point.

[YGWHI]

GS's plan of attack would be to take out KL and let LMA do whatever the fuck they want resulting in a Spurs loss

In fact, that was GSW's plan in the last two games on both ends.
That's why Kawhi was doubled more times than LMA, and why they're giving LMA open shots in the pick and pops.

LMA can score 25 ppg on those shots by design but the Warriors know that if they shut down Kawhi, there will no hope for the Spurs' two-man-offense-style since the supporting cast isn't helping lately.


Diaw is a decent player having a miserable season
Miserable regular season. Boris' playoffs is a different animal.

[Agloco]

Man, how pussy are today's big men that no one can seem to shit all over their midget ball center/pf? Fucking prime Tim would destroy these faggots. Robinson, Hakeem, Shaq, man, I miss beast centers/pf.

Good point and it's one big issue that probably everyone in the league has vs GSW: they don't need to double or help very much in the post at all. Pretty crazy when you think about it.

[LkrFan]

Or Kawhi (or a throwback Manu). He was developing that dribble-drive game all year. Kobe/Jordan style mid-range posting/jumpers won't work against the Warriors over a series, because like you said, too much length.

Hammering them inside will work for a game or two, and then the Warriors will just go '04 Phil Jackson, pack and swarm the paint, and force Danny (Hedo), Patty (Horry) to make 3s.

Damn you mid. From ^ post I can't tell which flag are you waving:

http://janedoerecovery.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/White_Flag.jpg or :flag:

:lmao

[Chinook]

Kawhi had a good third game. LMA had a good fourth game. Danny shot well in GS and shot poorly in SA. The team just isn't focused like they were in Game Two. Pop simply needs to do a better job at getting them all on the same page. The defense needs to be consistent. That might be hard to lock in during the regular season, though, since the players know it doesn't really matter.

In 2014, the Spurs were swept by the Thunder 0-4 by a net total of 43 points.

This year, the Spurs lost the season series to the Warriors 1-3 by a net total of 37 points.

[elbamba]

Takeaway - Spurs miss wide open shots = no shot at beating GS. You can't shoot 35% against this team for 2 - 3 quarters.