Copa Libertadores

[DAF86]

Lots of beaners in here, might as well have this.

[Bynumite]

I don't speak beanerish, sorry.

[Canyonero]

I've seen a Sao Paulo fan in here. What's his username?

edit: elemento we gon kick yo ass

[elemento]

I've seen a Sao Paulo fan in here. What's his username?

edit: elemento (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=20945) we gon kick yo ass

We'll see son :lol

65k on the "cancha" today. Today is going to be the "Maestro Ganso" show

[elemento]

Enjoying the game sons ?

Calleri took a dump on yo :lol

[DAF86]

Meh, not really that important. We are qualifying first anyway.

[Canyonero]

With a tie we're in

[DAF86]

Even if we lose we have a 99% chance of getting in. We're not losing against Trujillanos at home though.

[urunobili]

Lugano got this for SPFC TBH

[Canyonero]

Even if we lose we have a 99% chance of getting in. We're not losing against Trujillanos at home though.

Modern philosopher Justin Bieber once said "never say never"

[Canyonero]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CgnUadLW0AALUaz.jpg:large

[DAF86]

We have to play in the fucking altittude -_-

[urunobili]

Will a Mexican team ring for the first time?

[Canyonero]

Will a Mexican team ring for the first time?

I hope not. I'm against Mexican teams in CONMEBOL tournaments (especially when they still play in their confederation's cups).

[dunkman]

Some Mexican side will eventually win it, but it will take some time. I think they were finalists in a couple of times.

[Canyonero]

Pachuca has won a Copa Sudamericana.

[urunobili]

Pachuca has won a Copa Sudamericana.

That ain't no ring though

[Canyonero]

That ain't no ring though

But it's close enough.

[dunkman]

5 teams from Argentina, 4 from Brazil, 2 from Mexico, 1 from Colombia, Paraguay, Uruguay, Venezuela and Ecuador.

[DAF86]

5 teams from Argentina, 4 from Brazil, 2 from Mexico, 1 from Colombia, Paraguay, Uruguay, Venezuela and Ecuador.

Argie league is ugly as fuck to watch (although this tournament has, surprisingly, been pretty entertaining), but it's clearly the best league in South America right now. Which is strange, 'cause the Brazilian league is by far the one with the most money.

[Canyonero]

Argie league is ugly as fuck to watch (although this tournament has, surprisingly, been pretty entertaining), but it's clearly the best league in South America right now. Which is strange, 'cause the Brazilian league is by far the one with the most money.

I really hope they succeed in creating the so-called "Superleague" tbh

[DAF86]

I really hope they succeed in creating the so-called "Superleague" tbh

What's that son?

[Canyonero]

What's that son?

Big club niggas (except Independiente) + Newells/Rosario + Estudiantes/Gimnasia + Banfield + others are rumored to break from AFA and create a new "superleague" like they did in England and Spain, where they can get more money for the clubs and stop the crappy management AFA has.

[DAF86]

Doubt that happens, tbh. Too much mafia involved.

[Canyonero]

They hate this 30-team sports, same money divided into more teams.

[urunobili]

ElNono can you get us the Soccer forum settings changed so that we have more pages in the forum and the old threads don't dissapear or go in the general sports one? we all know you have access to them mods TBH

[ElNono]

ElNono can you get us the Soccer forum settings changed so that we have more pages in the forum and the old threads don't dissapear or go in the general sports one? we all know you have access to them mods TBH

tbh I can't do that, otherwise it would be done already.... Slomo

[Slomo]

???

I see 17 pages of threads stretching all the way to 2012.

[Canyonero]

???

I see 17 pages of threads stretching all the way to 2012.

I only see 2 pages :(

[DAF86]

???

I see 17 pages of threads stretching all the way to 2012.

Just 2 pages son.

[urunobili]

???

I see 17 pages of threads stretching all the way to 2012.

Just two pages

[urunobili]

Slomo with the fixed forum view :cry
Thanks :tu

[elemento]

River got a piece of cake path tbh. They're going all the way to the semis without even sweat.

SPFC got a really hard one, but they have only themselves to blame for losing against that trash Bolivian team @ home.

I'm not overly confident about SPFC this season, but we'll see.

[elemento]

Lugano got this for SPFC TBH

Some great Uruguayan players in SPFC's history btw

Pablo Forlan (Diego's father), Dario Pereyra, Pedro Rocha, Diego Lugano, etc. All BIG idols here.

[urunobili]

Some great Uruguayan players in SPFC's history btw

Pablo Forlan (Diego's father), Dario Pereyra, Pedro Rocha, Diego Lugano, etc. All BIG idols here.

Pedro Rocha was rough and tough as they come... Pablo Forlan won it all (so did Lugano) with SPFC... respect Brazilian brother :tu

[Canyonero]

River got a piece of cake path tbh. They're going all the way to the semis without even sweat.

SPFC got a really hard one, but they have only themselves to blame for losing against that trash Bolivian team @ home.

I'm not overly confident about SPFC this season, but we'll see.

That jinx tbh

[DAF86]

We are fucking fucked. Fuck you all fuckers.

[lefty]

Del Vaaaaaaaaaalle


Woohoo

[Canyonero]

And Boca winning at home :pctoss

[lefty]

Bocaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa


DieGOAT's club

Yes :cry

[DAF86]

Bocaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa


DieGOAT's club

Yes :cry

Look at this bandwagoning terrorist :lol


I've always been a RP fan :cry

I know 3 words in Spanish :cry

Im 1/285th Argie, from the Argie side of the River :cry

Fuck the Uruguayan side :cry

[lefty]

Hey fuck you

And fuck Francescoli

[Canyonero]

Hey fuck you

And fuck Francescoli
urunobili he insulted one of the players you fap to

[urunobili]

Hey fuck you

And fuck Francescoli

WTF are you doing in a South American themed thread? You gotta keep
It real Lefter. You're not going to disrespect one of the GOAT in Uruguayan soccer and run Scott free.

[Canyonero]

:lol ref yesterday, robbing Huracan so hard.

Tough game tonight tbh

[DAF86]

Turning it around would be a nice surprise, but I don't see. One goal form them and we're fucked.

[Canyonero]

Close this tbh

[elemento]

:lol

River fucked up a free way to the semis tbh . Sorry for you fellows.

Nacional taking out Corinthians, I'm loving it .

[DAF86]

:lol

River fucked up a free way to the semis tbh . Sorry for you fellows.

Nacional taking out Corinthians, I'm loving it .

There's no free anything when you play in the altittude, tbh.

[elemento]

We're in the semi-finals sons. :toast

São Paulo looks strong in the PS. "Camisa pesada tbh"

http://media2.saopaulofc.net/media/42351/S%C3%A3o%20Paulo%202005%2004_crop_galeria.jpg

[urunobili]

We're in the semi-finals sons. :toast

São Paulo looks strong in the PS. "Camisa pesada tbh"

http://media2.saopaulofc.net/media/42351/S%C3%A3o%20Paulo%202005%2004_crop_galeria.jpg

Happy for y'all!

Lugano is the luck token TBH

[elemento]

Happy for y'all!

Lugano is the luck token TBH


:toast

[Canyonero]

Who cares about this cup

[DAF86]

We're in the semi-finals sons. :toast

São Paulo looks strong in the PS. "Camisa pesada tbh"

http://media2.saopaulofc.net/media/42351/S%C3%A3o%20Paulo%202005%2004_crop_galeria.jpg

You fucking lost to The Strongest at home and now you are in the semis. :lol Fucking mediocre Libertadores is mediocre. Last year we barely made it out of the group stage and ended up winning the whole thing. Every year is the same shit, tbh.

[Canyonero]

And San Lorenzo the year before

[DAF86]

And San Lorenzo the year before

And the year before that, and the one before that, and so on.

[elemento]

You fucking lost to The Strongest at home and now you are in the semis. :lol Fucking mediocre Libertadores is mediocre. Last year we barely made it out of the group stage and ended up winning the whole thing. Every year is the same shit, tbh.

Yeah we lost against The Strongest but we beat River Plate quite easily tbh.

You're just spiting on the food that you ate

São Paulo started slow but raised their game @ the right time. Libertadores was never about the best group stage team winning it all. As an Argie you should know it better than I do tbh.

A mediocre River Plate won last season and was knocked out by Independiente del Valle (a team without a single 1st division title in Ecuador) this season. Don't blame the tournament, blame teams failing to deliver against bellow average teams.

[DAF86]

Yeah we lost against The Strongest but we beat River Plate quite easily tbh.

You're just spiting on the food that you ate

São Paulo started slow but raised their game @ the right time. Libertadores was never about the best group stage team winning it all. As an Argie you should know it better than I do tbh.

A mediocre River Plate won last season and was knocked out by Independiente del Valle (a team without a single 1st division title in Ecuador) this season. Don't blame the tournament, blame teams failing to deliver against bellow average teams.

I don't give a fuck about spitting on the food I eat. I just call it how I see it. That's why I have no problem mentioning the last edition, which River won, tbh. (although, if last year's River was mediocre I don't know what this edition's teams are, tbh. :lol)

Anyways, I hope you win it all son. Anyone but Pimienta Jrs, who shouldn't even be playing this edition, tbh.

[elemento]

I don't give a fuck about spitting on the food I eat. I just call it how I see it. That's why I have no problem mentioning the last edition, which River won, tbh. (although, if last year's River was mediocre I don't know what this edition's teams are, tbh. :lol)

Anyways, I hope you win it all son. Anyone but Pimienta Jrs, tbh.

Fair enough son. But you can't expect to watch a freaking Champions League here. Libertadores's level has declined because our young talent is leaving way earlier compared to the the 90s. The best South American players are all over the place in Europe.

Personally I watch for 2 reasons :

1 - It's my home team
2 - To watch some young talent that wasn't already stolen by Europe (not only SPFC but other teams as well)

[urunobili]

Personally I watch for 2 reasons :

1 - It's my home team
2 - To watch some young talent that wasn't already stolen by Europe (not only SPFC but other teams as well)

Lugano is not one of them? :depressed

[elemento]

Lugano is not one of them? :depressed

He isn't playing unfortunately :cry

[Canyonero]

:lol:lol TOSB Lugano

I can't believe River tried to get him

[urunobili]

He isn't playing unfortunately :cry yeah his gig now is SPFC social media manager :lol

[Canyonero]

Nacional :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[Canyonero]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ci38hZmUYAAvZDJ.jpg:large

[DAF86]

Is that the guy that got knocked the fuck out after that? :lol

[Canyonero]

I think it was another one.

[urunobili]

Lol Nacional
Lol Bolso gallina
Lol losing to Bosta again
Lol international drought
Lol proud of my players

[Canyonero]

Lol Uruguay

[DAF86]

:lol Pimienta Juniors

[lefty]

:cry dammit

[Canyonero]

B:lolca

[ElNono]

diego

[140]

At home?



:lmao

[140]

This was similar to when Boca got their shit pushed in by Paysandu at la b:lolmb:lolnera

[Canyonero]

At home?



:lmao

They lost both

[140]

They lost both
I know tbh son

[elemento]

1st time in the last 25 years that there isn't an ARG or a BR team in the Final

I thought River choked when they lost against Del Valle, but they're actually good. They don't play well only at altitude and they have some interesting players. They might pull an Once Caldas this edition.

[Canyonero]

First team to eliminate both River and Boca in the same edition.

[DAF86]

1st time in the last 25 years that there isn't an ARG or a BR team in the Final

I thought River choked when they lost against Del Valle, but they're actually good. They don't play well only at altitude and they have some interesting players. They might pull an Once Caldas this edition.

And we were unlucky to not put 5 past them on the second leg. We would have eliminated Pimienta once again. :cry

[140]

hater's cartel team bout to win this

[urunobili]

I'm just going to park this here to let Argnies come out of the closet as Uruguay fans...

►"EL URUGUAYO SIEMPRE FUE DE NATURALEZA SUPERIOR"

En entrevista brindada a Agustín Castillo, el comentarista del momento; Diego Latorre, habló sobre Uruguay...

“Uruguay tiene tres millones de habitantes y tiene una fuerza, un amor por el juego, increíble. Justamente al ser pocos y al tener esa cultura, esa idiosincrasia, esa forma de vivir en el carácter se nota.

El caso contrario: le sobra autoestima, fe, vocación Porque dentro tiene un chip de la garra, del esfuerzo, de que somos menos, de que todo cuesta. Y eso hace que jugadores medios no se reprochen nada y puedan ir al máximo todo lo que tienen; jugar en conjunto, eso se fue reforzando. No hay vanidades, ni egos. Habrá excepciones. El equipo de Uruguay en general es generoso con el compañero, hay sincretismo”.

"Nunca te podés confiar de ellos. Recuerdo una vez que fui un caso testigo. Habíamos jugado una semifinal en el Centenario y ganamos 1 a 0. Le dimos un baile bárbaro a Peñarol. Fácil. Y fuimos a la cancha de Boca y jugamos pensando que ese partido era mucho más accesible (fue el día que se cortó la luz en la cancha de Boca). Se cortó dos veces, se cortó o la cortaron. No lo sé. Perdimos 2 a 0 y perdimos muy bien. Entonces claro, te van pasando ese tipo de cosas. Ese partido probablemente contra un equipo de otra nación como Chile o Brasil, no pasaba nada. Los uruguayos siempre fueron de una autoestima, una naturaleza superiores. Todo eso va construyendo un lenguaje porque el lenguaje se construye de esas cosas también”.

[ElNono]

I have family in Uruguay, I can't hate, tbh... Latorre always been a pussy though

[DAF86]

I'm just going to park this here to let Argnies come out of the closet as Uruguay fans...

►"EL URUGUAYO SIEMPRE FUE DE NATURALEZA SUPERIOR"

En entrevista brindada a Agustín Castillo, el comentarista del momento; Diego Latorre, habló sobre Uruguay...

“Uruguay tiene tres millones de habitantes y tiene una fuerza, un amor por el juego, increíble. Justamente al ser pocos y al tener esa cultura, esa idiosincrasia, esa forma de vivir en el carácter se nota.

El caso contrario: le sobra autoestima, fe, vocación Porque dentro tiene un chip de la garra, del esfuerzo, de que somos menos, de que todo cuesta. Y eso hace que jugadores medios no se reprochen nada y puedan ir al máximo todo lo que tienen; jugar en conjunto, eso se fue reforzando. No hay vanidades, ni egos. Habrá excepciones. El equipo de Uruguay en general es generoso con el compañero, hay sincretismo”.

"Nunca te podés confiar de ellos. Recuerdo una vez que fui un caso testigo. Habíamos jugado una semifinal en el Centenario y ganamos 1 a 0. Le dimos un baile bárbaro a Peñarol. Fácil. Y fuimos a la cancha de Boca y jugamos pensando que ese partido era mucho más accesible (fue el día que se cortó la luz en la cancha de Boca). Se cortó dos veces, se cortó o la cortaron. No lo sé. Perdimos 2 a 0 y perdimos muy bien. Entonces claro, te van pasando ese tipo de cosas. Ese partido probablemente contra un equipo de otra nación como Chile o Brasil, no pasaba nada. Los uruguayos siempre fueron de una autoestima, una naturaleza superiores. Todo eso va construyendo un lenguaje porque el lenguaje se construye de esas cosas también”.

Should have taken your place as an Argie provincia, tbh. We would be the undisputed GOAT nation in football son. We could have like 8 WC and 40 CA by now.

[Canyonero]

:lol garra charrua
:lol kicking the shit out of the rivals because :cry we are intense :cry

[urunobili]

Should have taken your place as an Argie provincia, tbh. We would be the undisputed GOAT nation in football son. We could have like 8 WC and 40 CA by now.

Unification would be GOAT :cry

Problem is we idolize Defenders and you Idolize Strikers :depressed

[TheGreatYacht]

Both of yall's gay nations would still lose to Gotze and Chile, tbh

[dfens]

Unification would be GOAT :cry

Problem is we idolize Defenders and you Idolize Strikers :depressed

we won 2 WCs and 2 ECs as a partitioned country .. if we'd been unified from the start .. talk about whatifs, ww2 sucked.

[dfens]

Should have taken your place as an Argie provincia, tbh. We would be the undisputed GOAT nation in football son. We could have like 8 WC and 40 CA by now.

son that would've been some team tbh.

[140]

Bump tbh

[Canyonero]

Dat away cucking at Narcolombia DAF86 ElNono

[DAF86]

Just beating the teams we're suppossed to beat, nothing to see here.

[140]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7eOmMICf4k

GOAT club tournament tbh...not sure how you faggots can be so interested in that over sanitized european crap :lol

[lefty]

Too lazy to embed but :lol

https://twitter.com/Andres40ff/status/857605658157383680

[140]

:lol

[dfens]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7eOmMICf4k

GOAT club tournament tbh...not sure how you faggots can be so interested in that over sanitized european crap :lol

7 times more sanitized to be exact tbh.:lmao

[140]

7 times more sanitized to be exact tbh.:lmao
:rolleyes

That was mainly towards the ST south americans tbh son

[dfens]

:rolleyes

That was mainly towards the ST south americans tbh son

ah so. son why are they so mad in the video tbh?
Btw, I've seen some libertadores matches (palmeiras, boca, colo colo, flamengo) and these niggas make james harden look like a plus defender. Why do south americans dislike playing d so much? Is it because of lack of fundamentals, lack of coaching, laziness of just petulance? serious question.

[140]

ah so. son why are they so mad in the video tbh?
probably a combination of them being cucked at home after being up 2-0 and Felipe Melo getting under their skin during the game tbh...even before the tournament he gave an interview saying he'd have no problem slapping around some Uruguayans :lol so they were probably still butt hurt by that too

Btw, I've seen some libertadores matches (palmeiras, boca, colo colo, flamengo) and these niggas make james harden look like a plus defender. Why do south americans dislike playing d so much? Is it because of lack of fundamentals, lack of coaching, laziness of just petulance? serious question.
eh I don't really agree with that but for the sake of discussion I'd say they lack a bit on fundamentals but imo the biggest problem is lack of tactical discipline which goes back to coaching I guess

[DAF86]

South Amricans "lack of d" :lmao

Ask any south American star foward/midfielder (and when I say "any", I mean "any". Going from Messi, Maradona, Ronladinho and fat Ronaldo to the shittiest South American forward that has ever played in Europe) where are they defended the hardest. All of them will tell you in south america.

[dfens]

South Amricans "lack of d" :lmao

Ask any south American star foward/midfielder (and when I say "any", I mean "any". Going from Messi, Maradona, Ronladinho and fat Ronaldo to the shittiest South American forward that has ever played in Europe) where are they defended the hardest. All of them will tell you in south america.

the hardest does not mean the best. I agree that south americans play with more expressed passion, but uncontrolled passion leads to lack of discipline, and football, is becoming an increasingly rational sport, dominated by discipline (italy'06, spain'10, germany'14). These days mistakes and chokes are far costlier then slightly inferior talent. Also playing without being overly passionate is not necessarily playing without heart. I can assure you italians are the source of the "latin" in latin america, yet they are disciplined in their organization.

son why are you not a kobe fan? you fit the template to a T, the passion, admiring stats over context, admiring chokers, the weak trolling and the saltiness. You could've been a great kobe fan tbh :lol god bless tbh.

[dfens]

probably a combination of them being cucked at home after being up 2-0 and Felipe Melo getting under their skin during the game tbh...even before the tournament he gave an interview saying he'd have no problem slapping around some Uruguayans :lol so they were probably still butt hurt by that too

eh I don't really agree with that but for the sake of discussion I'd say they lack a bit on fundamentals but imo the biggest problem is lack of tactical discipline which goes back to coaching I guess

for me the games are wayyy to wide, stronger tactical systems would punish this nonchalance easily imo. SA coaches need to get their asses out of the backwater leagues and learn trade in europe tbh. Imagine simeone coaching argentina tbh... we don't even sniff '14.

[DAF86]

the hardest does not mean the best. I agree that south americans play with more expressed passion, but uncontrolled passion leads to lack of discipline, and football, is becoming an increasingly rational sport, dominated by discipline (italy'06, spain'10, germany'14). These days mistakes and chokes are far costlier then slightly inferior talent. Also playing without being overly passionate is not necessarily playing without heart. I can assure you italians are the source of the "latin" in latin america, yet they are disciplined in their organization.

son why are you not a kobe fan? you fit the template to a T, the passion, admiring stats over context, admiring chokers, the weak trolling and the saltiness. You could've been a great kobe fan tbh :lol god bless tbh.

'cause I like effective players that aren't sociopaths, tbh.

If anything, you are the perfect Kobe fan. An old fart in love with nostalgic, outdated narratives, tbh.

[140]

son why are you not a kobe fan? you fit the template to a T, the passion, admiring stats over context, admiring chokers, the weak trolling and the saltiness. You could've been a great kobe fan tbh :lol god bless tbh.
:lol

[apalisoc_9]

Dude, South American Ball clubs can't even comepte with Asian Clubs and you're here trying to argue Libertadores > Europe.

What are you smoking?

[Jodelo]

son why are you not a kobe fan? you fit the template to a T, the passion, admiring stats over context, admiring chokers, the weak trolling and the saltiness. You could've been a great kobe fan tbh :lol god bless tbh.

Daaaaaaamn :lmao

[140]

South Amricans "lack of d" :lmao

Ask any south American star foward/midfielder (and when I say "any", I mean "any". Going from Messi, Maradona, Ronladinho and fat Ronaldo to the shittiest South American forward that has ever played in Europe) where are they defended the hardest. All of them will tell you in south america.
This is true tbh

[dfens]

This is true tbh

Son I think I get what you're trying to say tbh, in SA stars are defended like NBA stars are defended when they go to monkey events (rucker, showcase league) where the other guys just get overly physical to compensate for lack of skill/coaching but also reach a lot hoping to make a play, so the overall D is pretty horrible and the stars just act as gravity for their teammates, who can do whatever they want against such an asinine defensive structure.
I actually remember seeing a game like this (with messi, not sure against which 3/4th tier team, something like colombia), where messi was doubled/tripled/shadowed leading to multiple hilarious defense collapses, in europe you'd lose your coaching job pretty quickly over such dumbassery but it's SA tbh: niggas think they're contenders after getting rammed 7-1 in front of their moms.

[dfens]

'cause I like effective players that aren't sociopaths, tbh.

If anything, you are the perfect Kobe fan. An old fart in love with nostalgic, outdated narratives, tbh.

Come on son, you know deep down that what I'm saying is true :lol

https://i.giphy.com/14c4yIVAVWZgnm.gif
for good measure tbh :lol

[dfens]

'cause I like effective players that aren't sociopaths, tbh.

If anything, you are the perfect Kobe fan. An old fart in love with nostalgic, outdated narratives, tbh.

btw, if you wouldn't know who these people are, who'd you take for the rapist sociopath and who for the clumsy tax evader tbh?

http://remezcla.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/kobe-messi-hed-2013-1150x647.jpg?x28508

[DAF86]

Dude, South American Ball clubs can't even comepte with Asian Clubs and you're here trying to argue Libertadores > Europe.

What are you smoking?

Who's trying to argue that? :lol

[DAF86]

Come on son, you know deep down that what I'm saying is true :lol

https://i.giphy.com/14c4yIVAVWZgnm.gif
for good measure tbh :lol

No, what you are saying makes no sense whatsoever. But that happens with people that reach a certain age, tbh.

[DAF86]

Son I think I get what you're trying to say tbh, in SA stars are defended like NBA stars are defended when they go to monkey events (rucker, showcase league) where the other guys just get overly physical to compensate for lack of skill/coaching but also reach a lot hoping to make a play, so the overall D is pretty horrible and the stars just act as gravity for their teammates, who can do whatever they want against such an asinine defensive structure.
I actually remember seeing a game like this (with messi, not sure against which 3/4th tier team, something like colombia), where messi was doubled/tripled/shadowed leading to multiple hilarious defense collapses, in europe you'd lose your coaching job pretty quickly over such dumbassery but it's SA tbh: niggas think they're contenders after getting rammed 7-1 in front of their moms.

Argentina almost won the last WC by not conceding a single fucking goal in regulation for 4 straight games (granted, all against generic harmless Euro teams, but still). The fuck are you talking about? :lol

[dfens]

Argentina almost won the last WC by not conceding a single fucking goal in regulation for 4 straight games (granted, all against generic harmless Euro teams, but still). The fuck are you talking about? :lol

son we were talking about copa libertadors tbh .. but now that you mentioned it, yes, it was unexpected, but defense was the only reliable thing in that argentine squad, great coaching job tbh, too bad he couldn't find a confident attacking player to score a goal or two.:lol

[DAF86]

son we were talking about copa libertadors tbh .. but now that you mentioned it, yes, it was unexpected, but defense was the only reliable thing in that argentine squad, great coaching job tbh, too bad he couldn't find a confident attacking player to score a goal or two.:lol

The downside of having the best player ever as a decoy on an island on midfield. It helped the team's defense by having the other team constantly worried about him and comitting many guys forward, and with taking control of possession in midifield 'cause nobody could take the ball out of him without comitting a foul; but we suffered on O because of it. But it is what it is, they got a final when they had no business making it, tbh.

[140]

Dat spin :lol

[Jodelo]

Dat spin :lol

[dfens]

The downside of having the best player ever as a decoy on an island on midfield. It helped the team's defense by having the other team constantly worried about him and comitting many guys forward, and with taking control of possession in midifield 'cause nobody could take the ball out of him without comitting a foul; but we suffered on O because of it. But it is what it is, they got a final when they had no business making it, tbh.

god damn son this entire quote is :downspin:into :downspin: into :downspin:. my head hurts tbh :lol And you top it off by saying that germany had any business in winning in '14 against a MUCHmore talented argentina playing in south america :lmao

[DAF86]

god damn son this entire quote is :downspin:into :downspin: into :downspin:. my head hurts tbh :lol And you top it off by saying that germany had any business in winning in '14 against a MUCHmore talented argentina playing in south america :lmao

Germany was the main contender, even before the WC started. I don't who you are trying to fool with this bullshit ":cry Germany is always the underdog. we are just so awesome that we always overachieve :cry"

Neuer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Romero

Lahm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zabaleta

Hummels >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Demichelis

Boateng >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Garay

Howedes >> Rojo

Schweinsteiger = Mascherano

Khedira >> Biglia

Kroos >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perez

Mueller >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lavezzi

Ozil <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Messi

Klose < Higuían (with the disclaimer that Higuaín usually sucks on finals)


But Argentina was the MUCH more talented team :lmao:lmao:lmao

The retarded ignorant bullshit one has to read :lol

[dfens]

Germany was the main contender, even before the WC started. I don't who you are trying to fool with this bullshit ":cry Germany is always the underdog. we are just so awesome that we always overachieve :cry"

Neuer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Romero

Lahm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zabaleta

Hummels >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Demichelis

Boateng >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Garay

Howedes >> Rojo

Schweinsteiger = Mascherano

Khedira >> Biglia

Kroos >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perez

Mueller >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lavezzi

Ozil <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Messi

Klose < Higuían (with the disclaimer that Higuaín usually sucks on finals)


But Argentina was the MUCH more talented team :lmao:lmao:lmao

The retarded ignorant bullshit one has to read :lol

Lmao son higuain >>>>>>>> klose and messi >>>> our entire midfield combined. also don't forget Romero kept you in that tournament more than once so imo he was closer to neuer that many think. And garay/demichelis/mascherano/zabaleta played a quality defense. Your advantage up front should've been decisive, no if buts or maybes.

here are the vegas odds for the first 10 contenders (at tournament start)

Brazil 3/1

Argentina 9/2

Germany 5/1

Spain 7/1

Belgium 14/1

France 20/1

Colombia 22/1

Holland 22/1

Italy 22/1

Uruguay 25/1

Just accept it that we overcame adversity playing in an unfriendly atmosphere (south america) and unfriendly climate (too hot for us :cry) and we still won by beating #1, #2, #6 (grudge match..) and penaldo on our way to the ring, while you barely got by #5, #7 and nigeria/iran in the easiest path to the finals in the last 20 years and still lost it on your own continent, with the would be goat. Come on son it's not that hard tbh.

[DAF86]

Lmao son higuain >>>>>>>> klose and messi >>>> our entire midfield combined. also don't forget Romero kept you in that tournament more than once so imo he was closer to neuer that many think. And garay/demichelis/mascherano/zabaleta played a quality defense. Your advantage up front should've been decisive, no if buts or maybes.

here are the vegas odds for the first 10 contenders (at tournament start)

Brazil 3/1

Argentina 9/2

Germany 5/1

Spain 7/1

Belgium 14/1

France 20/1

Colombia 22/1

Holland 22/1

Italy 22/1

Uruguay 25/1

Just accept it that we overcame adversity playing in an unfriendly atmosphere (south america) and unfriendly climate (too hot for us :cry) and we still won by beating #1, #2, #6 (grudge match..) and penaldo on our way to the ring, while you barely got by #5, #7 and nigeria/iran in the easiest path to the finals in the last 20 years and still lost it on your own continent, with the would be goat. Come on son it's not that hard tbh.

Nice link to those odds, tbh. Why do you post everybody's odds "/1" but Argentina's "/2"? BTW, here are Vegas odds before the final

https://www.google.com.ar/amp/www.ibtimes.com/germany-argentina-world-cup-2014-betting-odds-soccers-biggest-game-1624820%3Famp%3D1

Germany +120 - Argentina +240

Good luck trying to spin that shit. :lol

Anyway, I don't care what a bunch of betters with no knowledge of the game say. Everybody that knew a little about football knew Germany was the main candidate.

lol at you trying to spin this shit in some way to make it seem like you didn't have the decisive talent advantage. :lmao

Funny shit is that if this was a "who has more talented players? South America or Europe?" argument you would be all-in singing the complete opposite tune to fit your elitist, racist agenda. :lmao

[dfens]

Nice link to those odds, tbh. Why do you post everybody's odds "/1" but Argentina's "/2"? BTW, here are Vegas odds before the final

https://www.google.com.ar/amp/www.ibtimes.com/germany-argentina-world-cup-2014-betting-odds-soccers-biggest-game-1624820%3Famp%3D1

Germany +120 - Argentina +240

Good luck trying to spin that shit. :lol


First 9/2 odds mean 2 out of 9 .. so argentina wasn't really special in notation, it just had a 0.22 estimated chance to win it all.

also :lolposting odds before the final instead of before the tournament
here you go champ, odds at the beginning of the competition (vegas) : http://www.vegasinsider.com/soccer/story.cfm/story/1474935
(http://www.vegasinsider.com/soccer/story.cfm/story/1474935)also quoting bovada: http://www.ibtimes.com/world-cup-2014-early-betting-odds-brazil-us-england-others-chances-winning-tournament-1559015
also quoting oddsshark: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2054487-world-cup-odds-2014-favourites-and-betting-tips-ahead-of-fifa-showpiece

I'll save you the time and tell you they are word for word what I've posted initially. You can stop melting down tbh.




Anyway, I don't care what a bunch of betters with no knowledge of the game say. Everybody that knew a little about football knew Germany was the main candidate.

lol at you trying to spin this shit in some way to make it seem like you didn't have the decisive talent advantage. :lmao

Funny shit is that if this was a "who has more talented players? South America or Europe?" argument you would be all-in singing the complete opposite tune to fit your elitist, racist agenda. :lmao

first absolutely CROLF @ bolded. :lmao:lmao The oddsmakers are some of the most knowledgeable people out there, with brasil they were taxing the casuals but argentina, germany and france were all quality picks tbh.

son we both know that you don't win a world cup just by defending unless you have defensive core of nesta-cannavaro-buffon-zambrotta-gattuso, aka a footballing unicorn (:lol while typing, that's 3 GOATs at their position). So unless you have that (and barely win) you need to score goals and have a good enough defense. The tournament proved that argentina had a very good defense and a competent coach, so with heavyweight attacking pieces like missi/higuain/lavezzi/di maria it should've been a wrap. But it wasn't because missi blew his load on nigeria and iran, he was absolutely pedestrian in both semis and finals, just another goetze tbh. If he would really be the GOAT he should've won that singlehandedly tbh, one good individual goal in 90 mins and that's that.

And tbh you are wrong about my position on the subject, south america has players with far more talent (control, dribbling, vision, instincts, aggresivity), but europe produces better professional footballers because it actually bothers teaching/using fundamentals and also teaches teamwork over individualism (penaldo himself won as a teamplayer). That's why the gap between europe and south merica has been increasing the past 20 years.

Just for the shits, I'll add that argentina only reached the final because it played a modern (european) style, with players who learned their craft in europe, and that we all saw what happens when you bring that south merican favelaball against high quality opponents, they'll put 7 training ground goals in your net, at a walking pace, which leads me to my original point tbh, why are south american teams playing such a dumb style?

[DAF86]

Sorry son, but after saying Argentina had more talent than Germany in '14 you lost all credibility, tbh.

[dfens]

Sorry son, but after saying Argentina had more talent than Germany in '14 you lost all credibility, tbh.
:lmao

[DAF86]

No amount of smilies will save you on this one, tbh.

[dfens]

No amount of smilies will save you on this one, tbh.

son a rock hard defense, a no nonsense coach and an attack with the would-be goat, higuain, di maria, lavezzi couldn't do the job. Argentina needed on fucking goal in the final and they'd be champs, you'd think the would be Goat would actually do something tbh.. that's why I'm laughing because it is this obvious :lol

[DAF86]

son a rock hard defense, a no nonsense coach and an attack with the would-be goat, higuain, di maria, lavezzi couldn't do the job. Argentina needed on fucking goal in the final and they'd be champs, you'd think the would be Goat would actually do something tbh.. that's why I'm laughing because it is this obvious :lol

A rock solid defense is a defense that defends well without the need of parking the bus. The only reason Argentina didn't concede in any of the 4 elimination games in regulation is 'cause they went full catenaccio. They couldn't played an open style because they lacked quality defenders to defend on the open field, that's why they needed to park the bus. And if you park the bus, your offense suffers. And that's what happened.

Also, Di Maria didn't play in the final. I don't know why you keep bringing him up, tbh.

[dfens]

A rock solid defense is a defense that defends well without the need of parking the bus. The only reason Argentina didn't concede in any of the 4 elimination games in regulation is 'cause they went full catenaccio. They couldn't played an open style because they lacked quality defenders to defend on the open field, that's why they needed to park the bus. And if you park the bus, your offense suffers. And that's what happened.

Also, Di Maria didn't play in the final. I don't know why you keep bringing him up, tbh.

Son, if they played so much catennacio was there a lot of OPEN space available for a goat to go on a maradona run tbh? what did misty do? he played defense? no son, he shat the bed, defense was assured, space to attack was assured, match importance was assured, basically the table was set and yet he did nothing. GOAT my ass. Man up and accept it that he has GOAT talent but none of the GOAT intangibles, and his claim to GOAT is waning by the year.

I also bring up di maria because world cups are won over a tournament not a single match, and he was a major contributor.

[DAF86]

Son, if they played so much catennacio was there a lot of OPEN space available for a goat to go on a maradona run tbh? what did misty do? he played defense? no son, he shat the bed, defense was assured, space to attack was assured, match importance was assured, basically the table was set and yet he did nothing. GOAT my ass. Man up and accept it that he has GOAT talent but none of the GOAT intangibles, and his claim to GOAT is waning by the year.

I also bring up di maria because world cups are won over a tournament not a single match, and he was a major contributor.

There was no space to counter, opposing teams left a lot of players on D because of respect to the GOAT, tbh. That's also why Argentina didn't suffer much on D. Pretty much every Argentina game on the elsemination stage was guaranteed to finish 0-0.

P/S: No, you didn't bring up Di Maria because of the majority of the WC. We weren't even talking about the majority of the WC. We were talking about the Argentina-Germany matchup. You just forgot Di Maria didn't play the final 'cause you are a fairweather football fan, and it shows on the lack of knoweledge and the awful amount of nonsense you spout when trying to argue football, tbh.

":cry football is boring when there's no International play :cry"

Spoken like a true fair-weather fan, tbh.

[dfens]

There was no space to counter, opposing teams left a lot of players on D because of respect to the GOAT, tbh. That's also why Argentina didn't suffer much on D. Pretty much every Argentina game on the elsemination stage was guaranteed to finish 0-0.

P/S: No, you didn't bring up Di Maria because of the majority of the WC. We weren't even talking about the majority of the WC. We were talking about the Argentina-Germany matchup. You just forgot Di Maria didn't play the final 'cause you are a fairweather football fan, and it shows on the lack of knoweledge and the awful amount of nonsense you spout when trying to argue football, tbh.

":cry football is boring when there's no International play :cry"

Spoken like a true fair-weather fan, tbh.

I've been talking about the whole tournament, giving the odds before the tournament, talking about tournament opponents, how it led up to the final and why germany had inferior talent to a team with great defense and messi/higuain/lavezzi up front, and so on. Di maria was an integral piece of that team tbh. In the final di maria didn't play but I though for one final messi might actually do a goat game when it matters. Boy was I wrong... :lol

And without international play only big UCL games are worth it, I'm relegated to watching penaldo scored hat tricks because the goat is busy securing 2nd place in the league vs las palmas :cry
Btw, I hope he bothers qualifying to the world cup tbh, being that it'll be his last in his prime .. tbh :lol

[DAF86]

From now on, I won't be engaging in arguments with fair-weather fans. It's a waste of time, tbh.

[dfens]

From now on, I won't be engaging in arguments with fair-weather fans. It's a waste of time, tbh.

i'd wish son but we only get rain up here :lol I'll accept your white flag waving, as you accepted ours 75 years ago :lol

[140]

Sons great job bribing the opposing team tbh :lol I guess we will see each other in the final..

[Canyonero]

DAF86 ElNono TBH

[ElNono]

DAF86 ElNono TBH

doping, IMO

[Canyonero]

doping, IMO

Irrelevant tbh

[DAF86]

Just doing the things we're suppossed to do, nothing to see here. GOAT team goating, tbh.

[DAF86]

Sons great job bribing the opposing team tbh :lol I guess we will see each other in the final..

Son, please tell me you are trolling and you aren't one of those dumbasses who genuinely think the Bolivians would accept not making history in exchange of some couple bucks. :lol

[140]

:wow:wow:wow


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwjJzG44S8E

[DAF86]

:wow:wow:wow


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwjJzG44S8E

Must of feel nice having a bye round on the semis, tbh.

[dfens]

:wow:wow:wow


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwjJzG44S8E

great save tbh

[Canyonero]

Intercontinental Cup winners are now considered Club World Cup champions.

[Canyonero]

:lmao holy shit sons, we were so robbed

[DAF86]

Biggest robbery in the history of sports because of the selective use of VAR. If you have the technology, use it on every controversial play. I want to hear the justification for using the VAR in favour of just one team.

[ElNono]

choke, tbh

[apalisoc_9]

lol I watched the Higlights...How do you concede 4 goals in basically 45 minutes?

http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/dahell2.png

[140]

lol I watched the Higlights...How do you concede 4 goals in basically 45 minutes?

http://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/dahell2.png
You mean 25 min :lol

Sons wtf happened tbh? Was looking forward to win the Copa at home against you, now the 2nd game is gonna be away :bang

[Canyonero]

What if refs deliberately screwed with the VAR so CONMEBOL drops it and gets back to the traditional match fixing?

[140]

What if refs deliberately screwed with the VAR so CONMEBOL drops it and gets back to the traditional match fixing?

http://replygif.net/i/1408.gif

[140]

http://www.espnfc.com/gremio/story/3278045/brazilian-side-gremio-hired-spy-to-film-training-sessions-of-all-rivals-report

sup sons? :lol

[DAF86]

http://www.espnfc.com/gremio/story/3278045/brazilian-side-gremio-hired-spy-to-film-training-sessions-of-all-rivals-report

sup sons? :lol

The New Gremio Patriots, tbh.

[DAF86]

Will there be any type of sanction?

[140]

Nah

[Canyonero]

Lanus and VAR looks like a serious relationship tbh

[DAF86]

Lanus and VAR looks like a serious relationship tbh

The (lack of) use of VAR in Libertadores is puzzling, tbh.

[DAF86]

Congrats 140. I was pulling for you because of the kunt of a president Lanus has.

A llorar a la iglesia Russo puto.

[Canyonero]

Damn, I feel bad for Lanus...
































said no Banfield/San Lorenzo/River fan ever

[140]

Thanks sons, feels good tbh :tu long time waiting for this. Wish it would've been over you though, Lanus wasn't that much of a challenge tbh :lol

Next step is beating Godnaldo :wow

[140]

Another title, god bless tbh sons :toast

[140]

:lmao CONmebol :lmao
:lmao what a shitshow :lmao
:lmao thats what you get for fixing games to get your dream final :lmao

[lefty]

FFS DAF what did you do?

[DAF86]

Fucking pathetic, tbh.

Although this always happens, everyfucking time buses get stones thrown at them. The only thing that changed is the accuracy. Without looking any further, a River Plate player got a stick and other things thrown at him in the middle of the game.

[Canyonero]

:lol povertyball

[dunkman]

It looks good for River playing home, after the draw in the bombonera. A win will finally erase that "B" stain and reduce a lot of the Libertadores deficit, it's a must for River.

I remember Gallardo leading River as a player to many trophies, I think a Libertadores too, not just as coach.

[JakeCuenca]

River should be suspended for two years. Shameful display by river fans.

[dunkman]

River should be suspended for two years. Shameful display by river fans.

It made me remember when I lived in South America, once visiting some friends to Callao, Lima we were heading to some fancy resto with superb food. But one wrong turn, and some kids started throwing stones with from insane distance and precision. We went the f out of there rally style laughing all the way. Fortunately, to windows were broke.

What I don't understand is how those buses don't have protective films on the glasses, I always had them in my cars while living in Peru.

While projecting the image of great security, Canada is 50 times more dangerous, thought.

[140]

River should be suspended for two years. Shameful display by river fans.
As if CONmebol would ever do that to one of their darlings :lol

[ElNono]

:lol suspended again
:lol Conmebol
:lol Argentina
:lol Berreta

[Jodelo]

:lol CONMEBOL
:lol Third-world continent

[DAF86]

:lol CONMEBOL
:lol Third-world continent

Sure, because shit like this doesn't happen in Europe.

https://www.google.com.ar/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2604090/amp/Man-City-bus-smashed-Liverpool-fans-throw-stones-bricks-title-clash.html

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-36263498/footage-shows-bottles-being-thrown-at-man-utd-bus

[DAF86]

River should be suspended for two years. Shameful display by river fans.

If boca wasn't suspended for two years for an attack to River fans during the middle of a game and inside their stadium, why would River get suspended for something that happened hours prior to the game and like 10 blocks from their stadium? :lol

[JakeCuenca]

If boca wasn't suspended for two years for an attack to River fans during the middle of a game and inside their stadium, why would River get suspended for something that happened hours prior to the game and like 10 blocks from their stadium? :lol

Because it was an attack against the players. River fanboy with silly arguments per par

[Canyonero]

Because it was an attack against the players. River fanboy with silly arguments per par

DAF meant players instead of fans

[140]

This was CONmebols dream final, and they did everything in their power to make it happen. But now they're having to walk on eggshells because they're too afraid of pissing off either one of their darlings :lol I'm loving it tbh

[lefty]

At this rate we’ll have 2 Libertadores Cup finals in 2019

[DAF86]

Because it was an attack against the players. River fanboy with silly arguments per par

Yeah, I meant River players. Haven't you heard about the attack to River Plate players with pepper spray as they were ready to get out to play the second half of a Libertadores Match in la bombonera back in 2015?

[Canyonero]

At this rate we’ll have 2 Libertadores Cup finals in 2019

Argie ESPN said that this final could be played in Abu Dhabi and the winner would stay to play the CWC :lol

[DAF86]

Argie ESPN said that this final could be played in Abu Dhabi and the winner would stay to play the CWC :lol

Yeah, getting both River and Boca fans in Abu Dhabi is what the World wants. :lol

[lefty]

Argie ESPN said that this final could be played in Abu Dhabi and the winner would stay to play the CWC :lol
:lol wow

[Canyonero]

Yeah, getting both River and Boca fans in Abu Dhabi is what the World wants. :lol

Travel agencies tho...

[Mikeanaro]

Bosteros putos mueranse, si me cruzo alguno le abro la cabeza negra y podrida.

[dunkman]

hE10iEh5YaU

Has some good points

[Broly]

River should be suspended for two years. Shameful display by river fans.
I don't think you can do that. If this were to happen, it's a licence to start throwing shit at your own team's bus and/or players to get a free victory. By no means am I trying defend this shit show, but worse things have happened with less consequences. Remember the tear gas incident a couple of years ago? That was actually inside the stadium.

In this case, mistakes were made on so many more levels. Which genius came up with the brilliant idea to drive said bus through Monroe street? Which genius, wearing a police outfit, decided to take Boca straight into an ambush, only to go HAM with tear gas once more?

[DAF86]

Many journalists are saying that this was all a plot by Angelici (boca's president) and the political power (many close friends of Angelici, like for example Martín Ocampos, who coincidently quitted his job as security minister of Bs As after the incidents) to get River suspended.

This Martin Ocampos guy decided to break into the house of River's hooligans chief and confiscate millions of pesos made from the typical dirty business these guys have. No problem there, right? Theoretically no, but the thing is that everybody knows about this shit here and nobody ever does shit about it. But, oh, coincidence! they decided to do something the night before to the most important game in Argentina's history.

Everybody knows that when you get with these mobs they will not wait standing, there's a payback coming, and with the game on the next day everybody knew the payback would come on that day.

So, not happy with doing this the night before the game, they also pull some dirty ass shit to have a lax security on the path of the boca bus. With the normal security norms the fans are farther away from the bus and behind huge security fences, but what would you know? there was nothing of that on this instance, the most important game in history.

Why did they decided to fuck the hooligans business the night before the game? Why didn't they do the same with the boca hooligans? Why did the normal security precautions weren't used? Because they wanted all of this to happen.

[JakeCuenca]

Many journalists are saying that this was all a plot by Angelici (boca's president) and the political power (many close friends of Angelici, like for example Martín Ocampos, who coincidently quitted his job as security minister of Bs As after the incidents) to get River suspended.

This Martin Ocampos guy decided to break into the house of River's hooligans chief and confiscate millions of pesos made from the typical dirty business these guys have. No problem there, right? Theoretically no, but the thing is that everybody knows about this shit here and nobody ever does shit about it. But, oh, coincidence! they decided to do something the night before to the most important game in Argentina's history.

Everybody knows that when you get with these mobs they will not wait standing, there's a payback coming, and with the game on the next day everybody knew the payback would come on that day.

So, not happy with doing this the night before the game, they also pull some dirty ass shit to have a lax security on the path of the boca bus. With the normal security norms the fans are farther away from the bus and behind huge security fences, but what would you know? there was nothing of that on this instance, the most important game in history.

Why did they decided to fuck the hooligans business the night before the game? Why didn't they do the same with the boca hooligans? Why did the normal security precautions weren't used? Because they wanted all of this to happen.

River fans and their conspiracies :lmao

[140]

wow :lol

[DAF86]

River fans and their conspiracies :lmao


wow :lol

Not River fans, tbh. Respected known journalists that nothing have to do with River. Also, if you knew anything about the history of this thing you would knew just how pretty damn plausible this is.

I mean, this Martín Ocampos guy just quit his job. You don't quit just for a conspiracy theory. River just sued the City governmemt, with our corrupt justice I don't know how successful this will be, but some dirty laundry will definitely come out to the open.

[JakeCuenca]

Not River fans, tbh. Respected known journalists that nothing have to do with River. Also, if you knew anything about the history of this thing you would knew just how pretty damn plausible this is.

I mean, this Martín Ocampos guy just quit his job. You don't quit just for a conspiracy theory. River just sued the City governmemt, with our corrupt justice I don't know how successful this will be, but some dirty laundry will definitely come out to the open.

Lol jist lol

[ElNono]

lol Fap

some idiots ruined it for all of us... that's just how it goes. Ahora sopa.

[DAF86]

lol Fap

some idiots ruined it for all of us... that's just how it goes. Ahora sopa.

lol son. Do some research before speaking son.

Here you go:

UMaZfgqlre4&t=1065s

https://radiocut.fm/audiocut/escuchen-lo-que-paso-en-river-boca/

[ElNono]

I saw the video of the fans throwing the stones... you can spin it whichever way you want, but that happened and those were not Boca fans or Angelici...

Angelici is no saint, BTW, but he's doing what D'Onofrio would be doing if the roles were reversed. It's hypocritical to say otherwise.

[Canyonero]

Nono don't be such a puto tbh

[DAF86]

I saw the video of the fans throwing the stones... you can spin it whichever way you want, but that happened and those were not Boca fans or Angelici...

Angelici is no saint, BTW, but he's doing what D'Onofrio would be doing if the roles were reversed. It's hypocritical to say otherwise.

Are you sure?

0:30 mark


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdsrMWgOOtc

How can you certainly prove that the ones that caused the incident are indeed River fans? And even if they were, why does River as a club has to pay for what other people (River fans or not) do outside their club? If River fans would have thrown stones to the boca bus near the bombonera, it would still be River's fault? Your logic is flawed son.

[DAF86]

Oh, and ElNono, just if you needed something else.

https://tn.com.ar/deportes/esencial/un-barra-de-boca-se-infiltro-en-el-monumental-y-estallaron-las-hipotesis_920065

[DAF86]

Also

https://www.puraciudad.com.ar/hinchas-de-boca-apedrearon-el-micro-en-el-que-viajaban-los-jugadores-de-river/

https://www.infobae.com/deportes-2/2018/11/11/incidentes-con-el-micro-de-river-hinchas-de-boca-lo-atacaron-a-pedradas-y-le-rompieron-un-vidrio/

So, the exact same thing happend in the first leg. boca fans stoned River's bus and broke the window. :lol

[Canyonero]

GODonofrio's quotes :worthy:

[ElNono]

Are you sure?

0:30 mark


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdsrMWgOOtc

How can you certainly prove that the ones that caused the incident are indeed River fans? And even if they were, why does River as a club has to pay for what other people (River fans or not) do outside their club? If River fans would have thrown stones to the boca bus near the bombonera, it would still be River's fault? Your logic is flawed son.

I'm pretty sure Boca fans won't wear River jerseys AND be filmed throwing the rocks. But if you want to go that route, that's fine, let the justice investigate.

The point I was making is that if River players were injured in a similar action, D'Onofrio would be doing the same thing (which he did, BTW)... there's nothing weird with what Angelici is doing.

[DAF86]

I'm pretty sure Boca fans won't wear River jerseys AND be filmed throwing the rocks. But if you want to go that route, that's fine, let the justice investigate.

lol why? If you are willing to pull this kind of delinquent act, putting on another's team jersey is hardly an obstacle, tbh. :lol

But anyways, that's not the point. What a civilian (no matter what team that person is) does outside the confines of a club shouldn't be justification enough to punish said club. If not, where do we draw the line?

If you suddenly start giving games to the teams that get attacked, no matter where it is, then what's stopping the fans of said teams to put on another's teams' jerseys and start bombing away? They know that in that way they will get the pts. You would be guaranteeing your team the win.

That's why you make the distinction of incidents that happen inside the stadium and incidents outside it.


The point I was making is that if River players were injured in a similar action, D'Onofrio would be doing the same thing (which he did, BTW)... there's nothing weird with what Angelici is doing.

All D'onofrio did was showing the medical analysis of the affected players, Conmebol then decided, on its own, to disqualify boca. River never released an official petition to get boca disqualified.

[Jodelo]

To be played at the Bernabeu i heard...?

[lefty]

Well, a giant toilet bowl would be fitting

[Canyonero]

Well, a giant toilet bowl would be fitting

That was at the first game fwiw

[Broly]

Bernabeu confirmed to host the final on December 9th. It's all about the $$$. CONMEBOL. :lmao

[dunkman]

River lost the chance to play the second leg at home, but otherwise Boca wouldn't accept to play the game. It will be an interesting game, I think River still wins it.

[Brazil]

gonna be geat for conmebol tbh... this game will draw a lot of attention with the drama, being played in bernabeu.. The real classico on a world stage stadium.. cannot wait. Hope Boca win dat shit.. fuck river

[DAF86]

gonna be geat for conmebol tbh... this game will draw a lot of attention with the drama, being played in bernabeu.. The real classico on a world stage stadium.. cannot wait. Hope Boca win dat shit.. fuck river

No surprise seeing you side with corruption, tbh.

[Brazil]

No surprise seeing you side with corruption, tbh.

:Lol I side with diegoat fuck missi

[lefty]

:Lol I side with diegoat fuck missi

Don’t jinx it man

Wait that’s my job


Go River! Francescoli is a legend, Zidane’s idol !

[DAF86]

:Lol I side with diegoat fuck missi

Exactly, siding with a cheating piece of garbage that won't even acknowledge his illigitimate sons. Also Maradona is an Independiente fan that preferred to play in River over boca.

[Brazil]

Exactly, siding with a cheating piece of garbage that won't even acknowledge his illigitimate sons. Also Maradona is an Independiente fan that preferred to play in River over boca.

:lol u mad ?

[DAF86]

:lol u mad ?

Nop. Just stating facts.

lol maradroga choking the mexican promotion :lol

[Brazil]

Nop. Just stating facts.

lol maradroga choking the mexican promotion :lol

:lol it seems you are pretty mad

[DAF86]

:lol it seems you are pretty mad

Well, you are seeing pretty wrong. :lol

[Canyonero]

:lmao sparing some tickets just for RMAO fans. Bullshit.

[lefty]

:lol tbh that was brutal, worse than MLS tbh

:lol Gag:lol

Congrats Niggas

[Broly]

Hell of a game, but it just wasn't the same. This would have been one for the ages if it were played at Monumental. Now however, I'd like to forget that shitshow that was this years Libertadores. What a travesty of a tournament from start to finish, and it might not even be over knowing that Boca will undoubtedly make their way to CAS. In that regard, the hype is much higher for the Sudamericana this week.

I'm just happy Gallardo won. It's only a matter of time before he gets recognized as one of the greats on earth.

[Canyonero]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dt_wwaAWsAEPrQj.jpg:large

:lmao:lmao:lmao once a beta, always a beta

[apalisoc_9]

Wow Boca got screwed by refs. Unreal.

[140]

Oh this was today? :lol no one gave a fuck about this game tbh

[lefty]

Oh this was today? :lol no one gave a fuck about this game tbh

Except all the following bandwagonning phaggots who showed up at the Bernabeu : Messi, Chellini, Grisemine, Bonucci, Godin, Dybala, Simeone, Hamez, etc

[DAF86]

Fuck all the boca bandwagoners here. :lmao

ElNono Canyonero let's party sons. Biggest win ever in the history of sports. It will never get topped.

:lol lefty
:lol Brazil
:lol apalisoc_9

[ElNono]

:lobt2:

[apalisoc_9]

Fuck all the boca bandwagoners here. :lmao

ElNono Canyonero let's party sons. Biggest win ever in the history of sports. It will never get topped.

:lol lefty
:lol Brazil
:lol apalisoc_9

Celebrating clearly rigged finals now eh

https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/comeon.png

[DAF86]

Celebrating clearly rigged finals now eh

https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/comeon.png

"clearly rigged" :lmao

Pablo Perez should have been sent off in the first half, and River should have got a penalty on the second half. River got royally fucked and still won. That's how big we are.

[ElNono]

Except all the following bandwagonning phaggots who showed up at the Bernabeu : Messi, Chellini, Grisemine, Bonucci, Godin, Dybala, Simeone, Hamez, etc

even GOATsneijder...

https://www.mundodeportivo.com/r/GODO/MD/p5/MasQueDeporte/Imagenes/2018/12/09/Recortada/img_jbatalla_20181209-211104_imagenes_md_otras_fuentes_17-kjHC--980x554@MundoDeportivo-Web.jpg

[ElNono]

https://www.mundodeportivo.com/r/GODO/MD/p5/MasQueDeporte/Imagenes/2018/12/09/Recortada/img_jbatalla_20181209-211104_imagenes_md_otras_fuentes_cambiasso-kjHC--980x554@MundoDeportivo-Web.jpg

[ElNono]

https://www.mundodeportivo.com/r/GODO/MD/p5/MasQueDeporte/Imagenes/2018/12/09/Recortada/img_jbatalla_20181209-211103_imagenes_md_otras_fuentes_16-kjHC--980x554@MundoDeportivo-Web.jpg

tbh, that looks like Delfino (the basketball player) in the middle with the Juve players...

[ElNono]

https://www.mundodeportivo.com/r/GODO/MD/p5/MasQueDeporte/Imagenes/2018/12/09/Recortada/1070645284_20181209205758871-kjHC--980x554@MundoDeportivo-Web.jpg

James and Icardi

[DAF86]

He is.

[lefty]

even GOATsneijder...

https://www.mundodeportivo.com/r/GODO/MD/p5/MasQueDeporte/Imagenes/2018/12/09/Recortada/img_jbatalla_20181209-211104_imagenes_md_otras_fuentes_17-kjHC--980x554@MundoDeportivo-Web.jpg
Sneijder is good tbh nigga is underrated

[lefty]

Tbf River Plate was better tbh

Although Boca’s goal was nice

[dunkman]

Good game, Boca almost got the equalizer. River played slightly better. The superclásico seldom disappoints tbh . . .

Boca made a big mistake to play in the Bernabéu, this defeat will hound long time. It would have been better to lose 5:0 in the Monumental.

[Canyonero]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DuBchCcWkAAd-Kw.jpg:large

[Brazil]

Fuck all the boca bandwagoners here. :lmao

ElNono (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8054) Canyonero (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=49822) let's party sons. Biggest win ever in the history of sports. It will never get topped.

:lol lefty (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=6896)
:lol Brazil (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14466)
:lol apalisoc_9 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=11260)

:lol and you were tellin' us you ain't mad

[Brazil]

grats to river fans tbh except dat FAP faggot.. was a good game :tu

[DAF86]

grats to river fans tbh except dat FAP faggot.. was a good game :tu

Fuck you faggot. :lol

[Brazil]

Fuck you faggot. :lol

:lol love you too faggot

[DAF86]

:lol love you too faggot

:makeout

[apalisoc_9]

DAF still celebrating this? River should have been banned anyway. From an objective point of view, i dont think river deserved to play in the finals. They played in the final and worse received favourable.calls.

[DAF86]

DAF still celebrating this? River should have been banned anyway. From an objective point of view, i dont think river deserved to play in the finals. They played in the final and worse received favourable.calls.

Of course I'm still celebrating this. I will be celebrating this untill my last day on Earth. :lol

[apalisoc_9]

Of course I'm still celebrating this. I will be celebrating this untill my last day on Earth. :lol

The court will recognized Bocas appeal.

[lefty]

Of course I'm still celebrating this. I will be celebrating this untill my last day on Earth. :lol
:lol

[dunkman]

The momentum has definitely shifted towards River. Since early 2000's Boca became clearly better than River, winning many local tournies, varios Libertadores and Intercontinental coups in the process. However, since Macri left, Boca isn't the same and River is once again the better team, particularly since Gallardo took the team.

[diego]

well theres a lot to unpack here if im going to bother engaging with DAF. but i really cant be bothered. Congrats to river, they won. Not playing great, but these teams are both crap really. Its such a far cry from the times when argentine teams were loaded and truly could compete with european ones.

so congrats little brother, you've cut the gap again, a little closer now. honestly hope you can beat real madrid in the final, thats what epic teams do :lobt2:

[diego]

and :lol at conmebol, river got a different interpretation of the rules in their favor in every round of the competition

[DAF86]

https://media.giphy.com/media/14c4yIVAVWZgnm/giphy.gif
https://media.giphy.com/media/14c4yIVAVWZgnm/giphy.gif
https://media.giphy.com/media/14c4yIVAVWZgnm/giphy.gif
https://media.giphy.com/media/14c4yIVAVWZgnm/giphy.gif
https://media.giphy.com/media/14c4yIVAVWZgnm/giphy.gif

[apalisoc_9]

and :lol at conmebol, river got a different interpretation of the rules in their favor in every round of the competition

River is probably going to get trashed by the asian team :lmao

[DAF86]

In Mexico, this final had a higher rating than the Champions League final (and any other Sporting event except for Mexico's games in the WC). :wow

[Canyonero]

2019 cup is drawn in 1 hour

[140]

useless river faggots

[Brazil]

:lol River