vs Pacers - 2016 Playoffs - First Round Series Thread

[ElNono]

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VS

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Post your predictions, etc.

[ElNono]

Raptors in 5

[DPG21920]

Raptors in 5.

[ElNono]

Updated OP with schedule

[spursistan]

Updated OP with schedule
can you have all series threads stickied at the top?

not sure who the mod to contact here..

[ElNono]

can you have all series thread stickied at the top?
Slomo Deuce

[siraulo23]

Raptors in 5

[fonzy16]

raptors in 6

[DeadlyDynasty]

Raptors in 7.

[mudyez]

Raptors sweep.

[hater]

A good series. Choketors will choke once again but Pacers have no true superstar so it wont be enogh. Choketors in 7

[140]

Hopefully Raps don't choke again. Having Carroll back is big for them too otherwise they'd have no one to guard PG.

[ambchang]

Raptors in 5.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Raps in 5

[Seventyniner]

Raptors in 6.

[InRareForm]

Series Price: TOR -285 vs IND +245

[birdy219]

Raptors in 5

[~O~]

I expect these teams to try to out choke each other. This series is too basic for me.

[Killakobe81]

Raptors in 6

[Big Dog]

Raps in 6

[daslicer]

Raptors are a bunch of chokers but I think is the year where they finally get out of the first round. Raptors will win in 6.

[Spurtacular]

Raptors in 6.

[DMC]

More boring series of the playoffs.

[resistanze]

More boring series of the playoffs.

[spursistan]

More boring series of the playoffs.
Spurs-Grizz won't be any less of a snoozefest..At least Raptors choke gene could make it interesting :lol

[apalisoc_9]

Watching this game is torture...but I have nothing to do so why not :lol

[Texas_Ranger]

Joseph just showing that he's better than Mills and Parker...

[Robz4000]

What a shitty game

[resistanze]

Pacers have absolutely no depth.

[resistanze]

And i don't think I've seen a team shrink so much in the first round since T-mac's teams.

[D-Wade]

Lowry looks atrocious. :lolThis is going to be a long series. Raps' postseason ways continue.

[NASpurs]

The battle of the Spurs' backup point guards

[spursistan]

the Raptors looking so chokey out there :lmao..

[Drachen]

Jesus Christ, 15 rebounds with 3 minutes to go in the first half

[Drachen]

I like the nickname for their arena

[Drachen]

Also, I think that they call their dance team "Raptor Beaver"

[Spurs9]

Eastern confernece games are so :sleep

[HarlemHeat37]

Cory Joseph the best player on the floor in a playoff game, tbh:lol

[Clipper Nation]

DeBrick DeFrozen is a proven playoff choke artist at this point. :lmao Lakers begging this scrub to take a max contract this offseason

[resistanze]

Cory Joseph the best player on the floor in a playoff game, tbh:lol

:lol

[Clipper Nation]

Cory Joseph the best player on the floor in a playoff game, tbh:lol
:lol Spurs
:lol Letting Porker ship CoJo's ass out

[spursistan]

this is the one game to steal for Indiana and give the Raptors a chance to doubt and crumble :lol..

[D-Wade]

The rookie Powell might be the most poised Raptor.

[apalisoc_9]

Why am I not surprised Derozan hero ball is going to cost the raptors games? :lol

[Clipper Nation]

Powell > DeRozan.

:lol Fredo and Chazz
:lol Wanting that scrub DeMar

[timtonymanu]

:lol Craptors, they're lucky they have CoJo.

[resistanze]

Why am I not surprised Derozan hero ball is going to cost the raptors games? :lol


He might be the worst playoff performer I've ever seen from an 'All-Star', tbh

Who would've thought iso, long twos ball would failed repeatedly in the playoffs?

[djohn2oo8]

Powell > DeRozan.

:lol Fredo and Chazz
:lol Wanting that scrub DeMar
They will offer him 100 mill

[apalisoc_9]

He might be the worst playoff performer I've ever seen from an 'All-Star', tbh

Who would've thought iso, long twos ball would failed repeatedly in the playoffs?

I dont know man. ISO' and long twos can work if used properly and by high end players..Lebron,KD..Heck, even kawhis game is isos and long two...but these guys can hit the three ball thiugh.

But hes demar derozen so..

[spursistan]

thinking this team had chance vs Cleveland :lmao

Heat - Cavs is ECF...and the NBA will make it happen..

[timtonymanu]

thinking this team had chance vs Cleveland :lmao

Heat - Cavs is ECF...and the NBA will make it happen..

Could be Cavs vs Hornets though. Celtic vs Cavs imo is a better series.

[spursistan]

Could be Cavs vs Hornets though. Celtic vs Cavs imo is a better series.
they are in the same bracket..

[timtonymanu]

they are in the same bracket..

Yeah I'm just saying it would be a better series. Not sure Miami beats Charlotte without Bosh and how inconsistent they are.

[bdictjames]

Let's go Raptors...

[resistanze]

:lmao DeRozan

[bdictjames]

This seems more like a 4-5 game rather than a 2-7 game. The Pacers are a tough team for anyone to play with, tbh.

[resistanze]

This seems more like a 4-5 game rather than a 2-7 game. The Pacers are a tough team for anyone to play with, tbh.

Pacers are like 4-5 men deep tbh :lol

The Raptors are just terrible playoffs performers (Lowry, DeRozan)

[bdictjames]

What's up with the announcers repeatedly saying "exorcising demons"? Lol. Its the playoffs. Everyone in the NBA has gotten to this stage, or something similar before.

[spursistan]

This seems more like a 4-5 game rather than a 2-7 game. The Pacers are a tough team for anyone to play with, tbh.
Nah..Pacers have been atrocious for good part of three months..Raps just confirming they are not built for the playoffs as presently constructed..

[Arcadian]

PG is the best player in this series.

:lol raptors

[Arcadian]

What's up with the announcers repeatedly saying "exorcising demons"? Lol. Its the playoffs. Everyone in the NBA has gotten to this stage, or something similar before.

The Raptors haven't won a playoff series since 2001.

[Robz4000]

Raptors are the definition of a cute regular season team.

[HarlemHeat37]

As I've been saying for years in every pro-Raptor thread that gets created here, you can never trust this team, tbh, especially with Derozan on the roster..he's absolutely cancerous..

[100%duncan]

:lmao raptors choking in the playoffs as usual

[HarlemHeat37]

Lowry has been trash, too..

[bdictjames]

The Raptors haven't won a playoff series since 2001.
They said it with Paul George as well after a terrible half. It's like they say one cool thing and repeatedly say it after. :lol

[bdictjames]

When Cory Jo is the best guard your team....

[Robz4000]

CoJo doing all he can to save the Craptors from themselves.

[100%duncan]

lmao at scrub carroll being the highest paid raptor :lmao

[spursistan]

The Raptors need to pull this game off at all costs...shit is getting mental for them...

[resistanze]

As I've been saying for years in every pro-Raptor thread that gets created here, you can never trust this team, tbh, especially with Derozan on the roster..he's absolutely cancerous..

Likewise tbh..almost went with the Pacers this series but Pacers are so thin and poor..worse than Nets and Wizards were by a mile.

This would be the crowning achievement of choking if Raps lose this series.

[100%duncan]

omg lowry

[HarlemHeat37]

Likewise tbh..almost went with the Pacers this series but Pacers are so thin and poor..worse than Nets and Wizards were by a mile.

This would be the crowning achievement of choking if Raps lose this series.

Yep..Indiana's talent level is way too low to even fathom how to explain a potential series loss to them:lol..their 2nd best player this season was Ian Mahinmi..

[Robz4000]

Yep, Pacers are pretty awful too, but they at least have Paul George.

[100%duncan]

Is lowry like a legit playoff choker? Dude looking like semifinals cp3 right here

[100%duncan]

Lowry :lmao

[100%duncan]

Dude doesnt want to be there

[bdictjames]

Yep..Indiana's talent level is way too low to even fathom how to explain a potential series loss to them:lol..their 2nd best player this season was Ian Mahinmi..
When you factor in Myles Turner, Ty Lawson, George Hill, and Monta Ellis... this team can be dangerous, but 2nd-round ceiling at best though.

[100%duncan]

When you factor in Myles Turner, Ty Lawson, George Hill, and Monta Ellis... this team can be dangerous, but 2nd-round ceiling at best though.

2nd round only because they got a choker team in the first :lmao

[Robz4000]

When you factor in Myles Turner, Ty Lawson, George Hill, and Monta Ellis... this team can be dangerous, but 2nd-round ceiling at best though.

:lol that's horrible talent

[hater]

A good series. Choketors will choke once again but Pacers have no true superstar so it wont be enogh. Choketors in 7

Fucking nosyradamus

[100%duncan]

PG :worthy:

[~O~]

I expect these teams to try to out choke each other. This series is too basic for me.


SMH. I knew it.

Toronto doing Toronto things thus far. Game isn't over but of course they're living up to their coking reputation. I'll look at the stats.

[resistanze]

DeRozan is such a fraud :lmao

[100%duncan]

:lmao

[resistanze]

Lowry as well....sorry apo, second team all-NBA? :lol

[hater]

Actually I didn't really think about George. He is borderline superstar I guess. And vs the Craptors he could have a monster series.

If craptors lose tonight this could be an easy 5 game series win for Indiana :lol

[100%duncan]

:lmao :rollin you cant make this shit up

[Robz4000]

:lmao Lowry

[RD2191]

:lol craptors

[100%duncan]

HOLY FUCK :lmao

[Robz4000]

Game.

[spursistan]

Raptors are flatout chokers, tbh :lol even perennially overrated teams like the Bulls/Grizz have done much better in the playoffs..

[100%duncan]

2 main extremes: The capacity of Lowry to be worse, and the godmode of PG

[bdictjames]

The Raptors are the weakest 56-win team I remember in recent memory...

[resistanze]

:lmao

[Arcadian]

Paul George is back. Pacers in 6

[100%duncan]

:lmao the first page of this thread.

[100%duncan]

This shit is the new tmac curse

[100%duncan]

KYLE LOWRYYYYYYYYY :lmao

[Robz4000]

Pacers in 6 imo

[resistanze]

This shit is the new tmac curse

delayed T-mac curse, made it out of first round the first year after T-mac left then never again :lol

[TimDunkem]

Lol Raps choke yet again. I knew it.

[100%duncan]

So, how does their coach keep getting away with this

[100%duncan]

Must suck to be a raptors fan

[baseline bum]

This seems more like a 8-7 game rather than a 2-7 game.


fify

[RD2191]

Cojo plz:depressed

[baseline bum]

delayed T-mac curse, made it out of first round the first year after T-mac left then never again :lol

At least they still have the Maple Leafs

[resistanze]

So, how does their coach keep getting away with this

Called for him to get fired after Brooklyn loss in 2014....still here somehow

[100%duncan]

Cojo plz:depressed

:(

[Killakobe81]

Wow, just wow ...smh

[spursistan]

Masai would have no choice but blow it up if they get bounced again..Casey/DDR should be the first to go..

[Arcadian]

Worst 2 seed ever?

[Spurs9]

Dont know why you are suprised tbh, Pacers have some weapons.

[bdictjames]

The spacing Paul George gives this team is what has led to all those Pacer threes. This guy is the potential MVP of the series.

[benefactor]

Crapt:lolrs

[bdictjames]

Look at how calm the Pacers are after the win.. that's how much they believe in themselves in the series. The Raptors don't scare them at all.

[timtonymanu]

Isn't this like the 3rd straight season Toronto has lost the playoff opener at home? :lol

[DPG21920]

Really bad game, ugly game for both teams, but PG dominated and that was enough. Will be very interesting to see how the Raptors respond.

[mudyez]

Raptors sweep.

Idiot! :lol

[bdictjames]

This reminds me in 2010, the 7th seed Spurs against the 2nd seed Mavs. Just experience and playoff gumption, tbh.

[HarlemHeat37]

Raptors are completely untrustworthy, but they should still win the series, tbh..

Paul George is a 1-man show, but he can easily go 5-20 next game, he's a chucker and they don't have anybody else to step up..obviously if he's hot for the entire series, it's a wrap, but that would be surprising IMO..

Derozan being a playoff choker is completely expected and predictable, but it's disappointing that Lowry continues to suck in the post-season..

[StrengthAndHonor]

I wasn't expecting much but it turned to be a pretty good game.

[HarlemHeat37]

Great coaching move from Vogel, btw, taking a page out of Phil Jackson's book and calling the refs out before the series even began:lol

[Spurtacular]

Raptors in 6.

I meant Pacers in 6 :lol

[Kawhitstorm]

The battle of the Spurs' backup point guards

:lol


Cory Joseph the best player on the floor in a playoff game, tbh:lol

:cry


Why am I not surprised Derozan hero ball is going to cost the raptors games? :lol

Cats who depend on the refs blowing the whistle are going to underachieve in the postseason. Just look at the master James HarDone.


:lol that's horrible talent

The Pacers backcourt is better than the Spurs backcourt from top to bottom.:lol


Raptors are flatout chokers, tbh :lol even perennially overrated teams like the Bulls/Grizz have done much better in the playoffs..

This Raptors are no different than the Bosh led Raptors who choked in the 1st rd back in 2007 when the Eastern conference was wide open that Baby LeBron took the Cavs to the Finals w/ Boobie Gibson as his wingman.:lol


This reminds me in 2010, the 7th seed Spurs against the 2nd seed Mavs. Just experience and playoff gumption, tbh.

I would say this is more like Nets/Raptors 20014 when Joe Johnson was the best player on the floor.


Paul George is a 1-man show, but he can easily go 5-20 next game, he's a chucker and they don't have anybody else to step up..

Monta Ellis can easily go off for 25+ & win a game. He's playing point guard so he isn't looking to score as much as his Mavs days.


Derozan being a playoff choker is completely expected and predictable, but it's disappointing that Lowry continues to suck in the post-season..

Dude is Richard Jefferson 2.0 in the playoffs.:lol

[Robz4000]

:lol



:cry



Cats who depend on the refs blowing the whistle are going to underachieve in the postseason. Just look at the master James HarDone.



The Pacers backcourt is better than the Spurs backcourt from top to bottom.:lol

Didn't claim otherwise, but the Spurs at least have an elite frontcourt and superior depth. Indy has little outside of PG.

[Kawhitstorm]

Didn't claim otherwise, but the Spurs at least have an elite frontcourt and superior depth. Indy has little outside of PG.

PG/Turner/Ian should be enough against Biyombo & 'em.:lol

[Robz4000]

PG/Turner/Ian should be enough against Biyombo & 'em.:lol

Indy's bigs are marginally better than Toronto's (outside PG who is the best player on the court), but Indy's backcourt does pale in comparison to theirs, regardless of if they're better than the Spurs'. Indy on paper has lesser talent but Toronto is full of chokers.

[Kawhitstorm]

Indy's bigs are marginally better than Toronto's (outside PG who is the best player on the court), but Indy's backcourt does pale in comparison to theirs, regardless of if they're better than the Spurs'. Indy on paper has lesser talent but Toronto is full of chokers.

DeRozan/Lowry are checkmated b/c PG/Hill matchup well w/ them on defense plus Monta is MUCH better than Ross.

[Robz4000]

DeRozan/Lowry are checkmated b/c PG/Hill matchup well w/ them on defense plus Monta is MUCH better than Ross.

PG isn't a guard, and Hill is worse than either DeRozan or Lowry. Monta is a mixed bag; he can either be way better than Ross or way worse. Plus, CoJo > any other Indy guard.

[Kawhitstorm]

PG isn't a guard, and Hill is worse than either DeRozan or Lowry. Monta is a mixed bag; he can either be way better than Ross or way worse. Plus, CoJo > any other Indy guard.

PG isn't a guard but he GUARDS DeRozan & Hill isn't better than Lowry but he matches up well w/ him on defense.:wakeup

Plus, Stuckey can do what CoJo did if the Pacers were running their offense through him.:lol

[Robz4000]

PG isn't a guard but he GUARDS DeRozan & Hill isn't better than Lowry but he matches up well w/ him on defense.:wakeup

Plus, Stuckey can do what CoJo did if the Pacers were running their offense through him.:lol

The debate was about backcourt vs backcourt, not matchups. Toronto's backcourt is superior to Indy's by a wide margin while Indy's frontcourt is only slightly better, not even to make up the difference on the perimeter. Luckily Toronto is full of choke artists and the Pacers do have the best overall player in the series.

Also, Stuckey may be a slightly better offensive player, but CoJo is better on defense and a better all-around player. There's a reason Stuckey can't get the start on Indy despite how mediocre their starting guards are.

[Kawhitstorm]

The debate was about backcourt vs backcourt, not matchups.

What the hell is the point of looking at backcourts in a vacuum as if they are going to be playing in an empty gym?:lol

In a vacuum, Porker was MUCH BETTER than Harris ('06) & Conley ('11) but they locked him up b/c they were elite defenders. This is essentially what's happening to DeRozan/Lowry b/c STYLES make fights.

You can look at how Smart/Bradley gave Curry/Klay trouble despite not being on the same stratosphere in a vacuum.

[Robz4000]

What the hell is the point of looking at backcourts in a vacuum as if they are going to be playing in an empty gym?:lol

In a vacuum, Porker was MUCH BETTER than Harris ('06) & Conley ('11) but they locked him up b/c they were elite defenders. This is essentially what's happening to DeRozan/Lowry b/c STYLES make fights.

You can look at how Smart/Bradley gave Curry/Klay trouble despite not being on the same stratosphere in a vacuum.

You have to consider both sides of the ball. They may be able to defend but can they contribute just as much or more on the other end to make a difference? Lowry and DeRozan missed a lot of looks they should generally make while Hill/Monta/Stuckey didn't contribute much more than them. It very well may continue over the course of the series, and I actually think it will since both are notorious playoff chokers, but in the end both would generally destroy their counterparts with CoJo at least outplaying Stuckey.

[Kawhitstorm]

You have to consider both sides of the ball. They may be able to defend but can they contribute just as much or more on the other end to make a difference? Lowry and DeRozan missed a lot of looks they should generally make while Hill/Monta/Stuckey didn't contribute much more than them. It very well may continue over the course of the series, and I actually think it will since both are notorious playoff chokers, but in the end both would generally destroy their counterparts with CoJo at least outplaying Stuckey.

Hill/Monta/Stuckey weren't ASKED to do much on offense b/c PG was rolling. Hill/Monta actually outplayed Lowry/DeRozan on offense too.:lol

[Robz4000]

Hill/Monta/Stuckey weren't ASKED to do much on offense b/c PG was rolling. Hill/Monta actually outplayed Lowry/DeRozan on offense too.:lol

They outplayed them because they were choking on a bag of dicks. If they weren't such playoff chokers they win this game by double digits; the Raptors were able to limit the Pacers outside PG much more than the Pacers were able to limit the Raptors. I see it continuing but with Lowry/DeRozan continuing to fade, though as Harlem said earlier PG may shoot <40% the rest of the series which will sink the Pacers regardless of how much Toronto tries to give the series away.

[Kawhitstorm]

They outplayed them because they were choking on a bag of dicks. If they weren't such playoff chokers they win this game by double digits; the Raptors were able to limit the Pacers outside PG much more than the Pacers were able to limit the Raptors. I see it continuing but with Lowry/DeRozan continuing to fade, though as Harlem said earlier PG may shoot <40% the rest of the series which will sink the Pacers regardless of how much Toronto tries to give the series away.

Unless Carroll is healthy, they have no one to guard PG. We're talking about the same team that couldn't guard the corpse of Paul Pierce.:lol

Besides, they DIDN'T really limit the "others" for the Pacers which is why they were in the game w/ PG scoring ONLY 4 pts in the 1st half.:wakeup

[Robz4000]

Unless Carroll is healthy, they have no one to guard PG. We're talking about the same team that couldn't guard the corpse of Paul Pierce.:lol

Paul George is up and down with his shot tbh, he doesn't need to be guarded by an elite defender to shoot poorly.

[Kawhitstorm]

Paul George is up and down with his shot tbh, he doesn't need to be guarded by an elite defender to shoot poorly.

He ONLY needs to show-up in 3 out of 6 games.:wakeup

[resistanze]

Casey also is one of the worst coaches in the nba tbh....vanilla takes by ESPN about improving raptors won't watching their games....

[Robz4000]

He ONLY needs to show-up in 3 out of 6 games.:wakeup

I think he will tbh. I never said the Raptors were going to win the series (picked Pacers in 6) but not because they have inferior talent but because they have choking/irrelevant talent.

[TimDunkem]

PG isn't a guard but he GUARDS DeRozan & Hill isn't better than Lowry but he matches up well w/ him on defense.:wakeup

Can't believe you actually had to point that out. People here are clueless.

[Robz4000]

Can't believe you actually had to point that out. People here are clueless.

The argument isn't/wasn't about who guards who; it's about production, backcourt talent, and overall quality of depth.

[Neurosis]

The argument isn't/wasn't about who guards who; it's about production

Production is severely affected by matchups, so it's part of the argument whether you like it or not.

Put Tony Parker on Kevin Durant for 48 minutes, he's probably going for 40+ on 50-60% shooting. Put Kawhi on Kevin Durant and he's probably going for 20-25 on 40% shooting. You can't just remove the impact of matchups on player production.

[Robz4000]

Production is severely affected by matchups, so it's part of the argument whether you like it or not.

Put Tony Parker on Kevin Durant for 48 minutes, he's probably going for 40+ on 50-60% shooting. Put Kawhi on Kevin Durant and he's probably going for 20-25 on 40% shooting. You can't just remove the impact of matchups on player production.

The original argument was depth against depth. Yes, match ups matter, but when one team is 10 deep while the other is 6-7 deep at best, cross-matching tends to lose it's impact, especially when the talent level is skewed to the deeper team as well.

[apalisoc_9]

If George is going to get matched up with Geroge the whole series, he will lose the matchup almost everytime. Lowry is key here. Hes the one that should be winning this matchup.

[Killakobe81]

If George is going to get matched up with Geroge the whole series, he will lose the matchup almost everytime. Lowry is key here. Hes the one that should be winning this matchup.

Huh?

[Killakobe81]

People avtuslly want us to pay DD mac money after 3 straight playoff failures to show up when his team needs him most?
Fuk that ...if he offers us a hometown discount ...maybe. if he wants max stay the fuck in Toronto ...he playing like ass

[lefty]

Raptors are completely untrustworthy, but they should still win the series, tbh..

Paul George is a 1-man show, but he can easily go 5-20 next game, he's a chucker and they don't have anybody else to step up..obviously if he's hot for the entire series, it's a wrap, but that would be surprising IMO..

Derozan being a playoff choker is completely expected and predictable, but it's disappointing that Lowry continues to suck in the post-season..

:lol Lowry a top PG






:lmao today's NBA

[resistanze]

DeRozan is hot trash.

[Robz4000]

:lmao Indy just took Toronto's best shot and are within five

[spursistan]

Derozan-Lowry are choking something fierce..It is not looking good for Toronto...

[Killakobe81]

DeRozan is hot trash.

Dont see how anyone can max DD ...

[spursistan]

Dont see how anyone can max DD ...
like are you even asking the question? :lol...dude is a poor man Harden at best..

[resistanze]

At least Lowry is contributing (8 asts), DeRozan does literally nothing.

JV should have 28 points if he didn't miss every other layup.

[resistanze]

:lmao that end to the half

Joseph scores, Monta Ellis gets uncontested 3, Joseph is still behind the entire Pacers team and DeRozan refuses to pass to chuck up a 3 :lmao

[spursistan]

many here have said from watching few raptors games: Derozan is easily the biggest blackhole in nba..

[apalisoc_9]

:lmao that end to the half

Joseph scores, Monta Ellis gets uncontested 3, Joseph is still behind the entire Pacers team and DeRozan refuses to pass to chuck up a 3 :lmao

:lmao

[~O~]

DeMental..........Derozan. Of course. I doubt anyone would build around a guy that doesn't even know the basics of swinging the ball.

[DPG21920]

DeRozan is one of those guys that his coach/people built up with fake praise. Told him he was a leader. Told him he was the man. Just hoping he could rise to the occasion. He has ascended pretty well, but you see his limitations and the limitations of a guy who wants to be the man but can't be.

[resistanze]

Patterson would be a great glue guy on a title contender, tbh

[~O~]

Looks like they'll actually win. Too bad they still lost game 1 and still are mental midgets.

[resistanze]

DeRozan benched and they extend lead to almost 20 :lol

[resistanze]

DeRozan after game 1 'pfft I won't shoot 5-19 again'.

He's 5-18 tonight.

[100%duncan]

Sad that Raptors didnt choke tbh. Peace Resistanze, just made things so funny in game 1.

[Robz4000]

CoJo holding Lowry and DeRozan's hands so far this series tbh.

[100%duncan]

DeRozan is one of those guys that his coach/people built up with fake praise. Told him he was a leader. Told him he was the man. Just hoping he could rise to the occasion. He has ascended pretty well, but you see his limitations and the limitations of a guy who wants to be the man but can't be.

Jordan Clarkson's ceiling imho.

[100%duncan]

CoJo holding Lowry and DeRozan's hands so far this series tbh.

Derozan 5-18
Lowry 4-16
Cojo 6-8, 16 pts :wow

[Robz4000]

Jordan Clarkson's ceiling imho.

Jordan Clarkson has a higher ceiling tbh, but he may just rot away on the Lakers.

[resistanze]

Derozan 5-18
Lowry 4-16
Cojo 6-8, 16 pts :wow

Lowry was much better...4-13 actually but 9 assists and good D.

DeRozan is just a fucking turd and offers nothing :lol

[100%duncan]

Jordan Clarkson has a higher ceiling tbh, but he may just rot away on the Lakers.

They just have so many similarities. Mainly that sg who cant really shoot a 3 but can kill you on the drive :lol

[100%duncan]

Lowry was much better...4-13 actually but 9 assists and good D.

DeRozan is just a fucking turd and offers nothing :lol

Must hurt tbh. Even worse when your highest paid player is demare fukin carol :lmao good win though didn't watch just woke up

[Arcadian]

J-Val and CoJo went beast mode

[Kawhitstorm]

People avtuslly want us to pay DD mac money after 3 straight playoff failures to show up when his team needs him most?
Fuk that ...if he offers us a hometown discount ...maybe. if he wants max stay the fuck in Toronto ...he playing like ass

Dude is Richard Jefferson 2.0:lol


DeRozan is one of those guys that his coach/people built up with fake praise. Told him he was a leader. Told him he was the man. Just hoping he could rise to the occasion. He has ascended pretty well, but you see his limitations and the limitations of a guy who wants to be the man but can't be.

He's having the same issue as Harden, refs won't bail him out in the playoffs.:sleep

[Kawhitstorm]

Cojo 6-8, 16 pts :wow

:bang


CoJo holding Lowry and DeRozan's hands so far this series tbh.

He's bailing 'em out like Reggie Jackson bailed out Durant/WestBrick in 2014 against the Grizz.

[TDMVPDPOY]

PG has regressed to a fkn scrub, nothing to see here...

[romsey31]

PG has regressed to a fkn scrub, nothing to see here...


how exactly is this on pg? Did you even watch the game?The guy had zero help. He had 28 points 4 rebs on 8 of 15 shooting. His teammates were missing layups and wide open shots left and right. He has been heads and shoulder the best player in the playoffs so far. Get your facts together.

[Robz4000]

how exactly is this on pg? Did you even watch the game?The guy had zero help. He had 28 points 4 rebs on 8 of 15 shooting. His teammates were missing layups and wide open shots left and right. He has been heads and shoulder the best player in the playoffs so far. Get your facts together.

:lol best player while teams have only played one to two games. Let's wait a bit before crowning anyone the best player in the playoffs yet. I agree though, can't blame him for that loss at all.

[~O~]

Pacers have proved their the lesser of the mental midgets thus far.

[resistanze]

how exactly is this on pg? Did you even watch the game?The guy had zero help. He had 28 points 4 rebs on 8 of 15 shooting. His teammates were missing layups and wide open shots left and right. He has been heads and shoulder the best player in the playoffs so far. Get your facts together.

You know TDMVPDPOY is the resident retard here, right? :lol

[romsey31]

You know TDMVPDPOY is the resident retard here, right? :lol

haha didnt know. well noted:toast

[romsey31]

:lol best player while teams have only played one to two games. Let's wait a bit before crowning anyone the best player in the playoffs yet. I agree though, can't blame him for that loss at all.

Youre absolutely right. Only two games has been played. ill step on the brakes a bit

[D-Wade]

Bench totally bailing out chucking all star duo Lowry and Derozan :lol

[resistanze]

Ugly basketball :lol

Pacers are the Toronto Raptors with less talent. Both can't run an offensive set.

[DPG21920]

27 of 33 FT's for INDY and still lost by 16?? Jonas is the difference right now. Lowry is playing well despite his shooting too. If his shot comes back it's lights out. Already probably is.

[TDMVPDPOY]

pg losing to a bunch of scrubs?

[spursistan]

good start by the Pacers..

[resistanze]

Lowry and DeRozan are such playoff chokers tbh :lol

[Arcadian]

:lol Ian Mahinmi beasting on the Raptors

[D-Wade]

Um, is Marv Albert OK?

He just said an Indiana player was "rejected emphatically" at the rim, when in truth no one touched the ball and it was a simple penetration and kick out.

[Raven]

cojo is such an endearing player

[Raven]

Um, is Marv Albert OK?

He just said an Indiana player was "rejected emphatically" at the rim, when in truth no one touched the ball and it was a simple penetration and kick out.
you better not watch cleveland games, their guy screams throws the hammer down for layups

[lefty]

Lowry and DeRozan are such playoff chokers tbh :lol

:lol considered a top PG


:lmao today'sNBA

[apalisoc_9]

Lowry and DeRozan are such playoff chokers tbh :lol

At least lowry contributes somewhere else but derozan is so cancerous. Hes the rudy gay of SGs. He's single handidly has given the pacers two games in this series.

[D-Wade]

Derozan stays taking shitty shots. I thought this was the year he was finally going to turn the corner.

[Kawhitstorm]

:lol Ian Mahinmi beasting on the Raptors

His agent notified him that he's in a contract year after Gm 3.

[Kawhitstorm]

Derozan stays taking shitty shots. I thought this was the year he was finally going to turn the corner.


At least lowry contributes somewhere else but derozan is so cancerous. Hes the rudy gay of SGs. He's single handidly has given the pacers two games in this series.

Folks called Monta Ellis a cancer but he is actually playing within the offense & has so far outplayed All-Star DeRozan for the series.

Besides, Rudy Gay can actually shoot.:lol

[timtonymanu]

:lol Raptors letting Pacers tie the series

different year, same shitty Eastern conference

[HarlemHeat37]

Man, Derozan is easily in my top 3 most disliked players in the NBA, tbh:lol

It's a shame, he actually converted half the fanbase in his favor, this year, too..hopefully that number goes down to 0% by May..

[spursistan]

Game 5 going to be huge especially for the Raptors.....they are at their worst playing under pressure with duo of playoff chokers..

[HarlemHeat37]

So many inefficient chuckers in this series:lol

[Arcadian]

His agent notified him that he's in a contract year after Gm 3.

If Ian is gonna outplay JVal like that...Pacers are good.

[Kawhitstorm]

Game 5 going to be huge especially for the Raptors.....they are at their worst playing under pressure with duo of playoff chokers..

723989240837627904

[apalisoc_9]

723989240837627904

Whats sad is that the raps actually can play decent team ball when derozan is not on the floor.

[resistanze]

723989240837627904

:rollin

[-21-]

Raptors should go with the lineup of Lowry-Joseph-Powell-Carroll-Valanciunas. Send Derozan to the Lakers tbh.

[Jacob1983]

Lulz the NBA scheduling game 5 for 5pm on Tuesday on TNT. No one is going to watch.

[spursistan]

Indiana going for the kill..Raptors are done if they lose this one :lol

[InTheCrust]

:lmao

[spursistan]

Raptors? another 1st round exit? who would have thunk?:rollin

[timtonymanu]

Craptors are Clippers East

[apalisoc_9]

My God...Deroza is turining this game into a personal feud and he is getting pounded by George.

Legit one of the top 5 cancers in the league.

[spursistan]

Craptors are Clippers East
nah..higher level of choking, tbh..they are going to get bounced by a lower seed for 3rd straight seasons in a shitty conference..

[AlexJones]

Raptors live ML or nah

[timtonymanu]

nah..higher level of choking, tbh..they are going to get bounced by a lower seed for 3rd straight seasons in a shitty conference..

True. I'm sure Pistons would be up in this series if they were playing Toronto. :lol

[spursistan]

this is actually a good gig for Ettore Messina to wait out ..international city and weak conference with some talent that could be upgraded in FA + low expectations (just win a playoff series ffs :lol)..i'm sure Casey will be fired if they lose this series..

[Kawhitstorm]

Lowry trying to break PG's arm ala Wade/Rondo 2011.:lol

[resistanze]

I'm on a plane right now but can't wait for Ujiri to blow this up, idiot waited 2 years too long for Casey :lol

[DPG21920]

:lmao How is that a foul on PG

[DPG21920]

This was not the greatest of years for PG, especially post ASB. But such big props for this dude coming back from that injury and the playoff series he's turning in.

In PG we trust.

[spursistan]

This was not the greatest of years for PG, especially post ASB. But such big props for this dude coming back from that injury and the playoff series he's turning in.

In PG we trust.
Add Toronto to your list of potential teams to get blown-up + coaching vacancy :lol..a really interesting post-season..

[timtonymanu]

CoJo playing with these scrubs :lol

[DPG21920]

Add Toronto to your list of potential teams to get blown-up + coaching vacancy :lol..a really interesting post-season..

Yup - good call. Another first round exit with a healthy team where you are the favorite?? Blow it up!

[td4mvp21]

If we get a Pacers-Hornets second round :lmao

[DMC]

10:15 - 4th
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(56-26, 32-9 Home)

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Now that's a blowout.

[Robz4000]

Indy in choke mode now

[313]

Cory Joseph <3

[Robz4000]

Fucking Stuckey choked that lead all by himself.

[Kawhitstorm]

Vogel blew the series when he benched the starters:sleep

[313]

:lol Paul George with 35 in the first three quarters just to choke in the fourth

[140]

Dinos acting like somebody for once

[Kawhitstorm]

Cory Joseph <3

Powell/CoJo have been more effective than DeRozan/Lowry:lol

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Rookie Powell coming in and playing well

[spursistan]

Vogel blew the series when he benched the starters:sleep
getting cute like Pop with his resting shtick, which btw cost us Game 6 in '13 Finals before Rall Allen happened...

[Kawhitstorm]

:lol Paul George with 35 in the first three quarters just to choke in the fourth

Vogel benched him & is the one calling the shitty offensive sets:wakeup

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Terrance Ross is fucking retarded wow

[Robz4000]

Ugh, both these teams' offenses...

[Neurosis]

Wow this is a historic meltdown for Indy.

[spursistan]

Vogel absolutely made a mess of this..Toronto was ready to roll over :lmao

[timtonymanu]

Spurs lost their best PG :depressed

[baseline bum]

My boy Cojo with the monster 3. :tu

[Robz4000]

Welp, that's that.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

CoJo. Miss that dude

[baseline bum]

This is the best Biyombo has looked since the Nike Hoop Summit. :lol

[Kawhitstorm]

Ugh, both these teams' offenses...

I have no clue why Vogel has Monta camping at the 3 point line as if he's Danny Green when he's basically unstoppable driving to the rim on PnRs. Instead of force feeding PG, they should be running a PnR w/ Turner/Monta & have PG on the strongside since he's their best shooter.

[140]

Bailout call

[Kawhitstorm]

This is the best Biyombo has looked since the Nike Hoop Summit. :lol

Pay back for the Ian's Gm 4.:lol

Actually, he had a 16 point/25 rebound game against the Pacers during the regular season.

U4k_nviL_Fk

[spursistan]

down 3 they go for two with 2 sec left..:lmao Vogel late game offense

[Robz4000]

:lol what the fuck was the plan on that possession?