Been telling Lakerfan the Lakers will max Demar Derozan

[djohn2oo8]

"He's enjoying his last days in Toronto because he'll leaving for Los Angeles in a few months anyways," said Smith of DeRozan.

Stephen A. Smith: DeMar DeRozan Leaving Raptors For L.A. In Offseason - RealGM Wiretap (http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/241623/Stephen-A-Smith-DeMar-DeRozan-Leaving-Raptors-For-LA-In-Offseason)

[djohn2oo8]

Back in Feb


Originally Posted by cyberxhttp://www.clutchfans.net/bbs/images_cfans/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?p=10288586#post10288586)
Derozan to Lakers is also extremely probable this summer

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=272275&page=20

[Bynumite]

So i guess Lakers are getting Durant as well since Stephen A Smith said so.

[whitemamba]

O Mitch...

[djohn2oo8]

So i guess Lakers are getting Durant as well since Stephen A Smith said so.
There have been reports linking DeRozan to the Lakers prior to this.

[Killakobe81]

Back in Feb

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?t=272275&page=20

Why would he leave a 2 seed for a no seed?

[Killakobe81]

There have been reports linking DeRozan to the Lakers prior to this.

Same with Love, Wesbrook and Durant none have proven true or seem likely.

[spursistan]

:lmao

[djohn2oo8]

Why would he leave a 2 seed for a no seed?
For the fact he is from Compton, went to USC, play in LA with the Lakers maxing out another player.

[apalisoc_9]

Do it mitch.

[djohn2oo8]

There’s mutual interest between DeRozan and Los Angeles. After the Lakers played the Raptors during December in Toronto, DeRozan gifted Bryant (http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/kobe-bryant-los-angeles-lakers-cusotm-shoes-toronto-raptors-demar-derozan-farewell-gift-120815) with a custom shoe. Last week, DeRozan debuted (http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/kobe-bryant-los-angeles-lakers-demar-derozan-achilles-heel-kobe-11-nike-shoes-010716) the new “Achilles Heel” Kobe 11 shoe on the floor during a Raptors game.

Even though he said he'd like to play for the Raptors (http://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/nba/derozan-on-future-with-raptors-this-is-where-i-want-to-be/) his whole career, there would be too much money left on the table to not at least test the market. High-profile teams, including the Lakers and Nets (http://nypost.com/2016/01/07/nets-get-good-first-hand-look-at-one-of-their-offseason-targets/), reportedly covet the dominant scorer and are willing to spend the money.

http://www.foxsports.com/nba/story/los-angeles-lakers-demar-derozan-toronto-raptors-contract-kobe-bryant-011216

[StrengthAndHonor]

For the fact he is from Compton, went to USC, play in LA with the Lakers maxing out another player.
It doesn't mean much. Kevin Love had UCLA ties too. He'll make more money staying in T-Dot and he's in a better situation there, zero chance he'll sign with the Lakers.

[StrengthAndHonor]

They also have Clarkson who can put up Derozan #'s for way less money. If anything, I can see them going after Whiteside pretty hard since he's UFA.

[djohn2oo8]

It doesn't mean much. Kevin Love had UCLA ties too. He'll make more money staying in T-Dot and he's in a better situation there, zero chance he'll sign with the Lakers.
My dude Cyberx doesn't put it out there because it's not true. He works for an agent in LA, and is where Sam Amick goes to for his sources. So you don't have to believe me. DeRozan will be a Laker though.

[StrengthAndHonor]

My dude Cyberx doesn't put it out there because it's not true. He works for an agent in LA, and is where Sam Amick goes to for his sources. So you don't have to believe me. DeRozan will be a Laker though.
I believe that the Lakers will throw an offer sheet, but I don't believe Derozan has made up his mind he'll go to the Lakers. The Lakers have nothing to offer other than money right now.

[djohn2oo8]

To be fair to Stephen A, he did say before LeBron left Cleveland he was going to Miami, then predicted he would leave to go home when absolutely no one said LeBron would leave another team. So it's not like he doesn't hear players talk.

[djohn2oo8]

I believe that the Lakers will throw an offer sheet, but I don't believe Derozan has made up his mind he'll go to the Lakers. The Lakers have nothing to offer other than money right now.
Hassan Whiteside is another Laker target, btw. So it's not like they would have nothing to offer, especially with the a top 3 Rookie.

[Spurtacular]

DeRozan would make the Lakers a wonderful middle of the road team. I can support that.

[Spurtacular]

So i guess Lakers are getting Durant as well since Stephen A Smith said so.

Durant will go to LAL or DC. It's no secret. Maybe a Chicago could fly in under the radar.

[DPG21920]

Why would he leave a 2 seed for a no seed?

Same reason Kobe took money over winning - money. He gets a chance to live in LA, with no pressure any more to win since the franchise is in the dumps and gets to mega cash in.

[DPG21920]

I believe that the Lakers will throw an offer sheet, but I don't believe Derozan has made up his mind he'll go to the Lakers. The Lakers have nothing to offer other than money right now.

Sure, there are a lot of variables, but there is obviously smoke here. But it makes sense. LA has lost it's mojo for the past 3-4 years on attracting the top FA's. They aren't seemingly getting Durant/Lebron types, so moving on to the next tier (DeRozan, Whiteside, etc..) makes perfect sense. They have to sign someone.

[djohn2oo8]

Sure, there are a lot of variables, but there is obviously smoke here. But it makes sense. LA has lost it's mojo for the past 3-4 years on attracting the top FA's. They aren't seemingly getting Durant/Lebron types, so moving on to the next tier (DeRozan, Whiteside, etc..) makes perfect sense. They have to sign someone.
Kupchak said himself they don't have time to just rebuild strictly through the draft. Which makes sense with what you are saying.

[Killakobe81]

I believe that the Lakers will throw an offer sheet, but I don't believe Derozan has made up his mind he'll go to the Lakers. The Lakers have nothing to offer other than money right now.

this. By the time we are a #2 seed in the west Derozan will be way past his prime ...

[Killakobe81]

Sure, there are a lot of variables, but there is obviously smoke here. But it makes sense. LA has lost it's mojo for the past 3-4 years on attracting the top FA's. They aren't seemingly getting Durant/Lebron types, so moving on to the next tier (DeRozan, Whiteside, etc..) makes perfect sense. They have to sign someone.

They do eventually.
But it would be smart to wait for a Superfriends level team-up rather than blowing max money on those guys.
I still argue despite his flaws... the best use of resources is throwing the sink at Barnes. Sure, they could match and if they do their team will be locked as is and they will probably lose guys and have to replace them with ring chasers which can doesn't always work. Plus the Curry extension looms.

Barnes still has upside and even if he never realizes his full potential he can shoot and defend. if you keep the pick you can always trade Randle if you lose the pick Barnes Randle Clarkson and Druss is not bad core. Clarkson need to be a combo backup guard and Randle probably cant be a starter longterm until he improves his jumper.

Bottomline chasing big money free agents not named durant/LeBron/Westbrook is silly to me.
Aldridge is one of the few not super duper star FA's that has (so far) proved to be worth signing to a max.

Lakers need defenders in the worst way.

[whitemamba]

They also have Clarkson who can put up Derozan #'s for way less money. If anything, I can see them going after Whiteside pretty hard since he's UFA.

this.

[djohn2oo8]

They do eventually.
But it would be smart to wait for a Superfriends level team-up rather than blowing max money on those guys.
I still argue despite his flaws... the best use of resources is throwing the sink at Barnes. Sure, they could match and if they do their team will be locked as is and they will probably lose guys and have to replace them with ring chasers which can doesn't always work. Plus the Curry extension looms.

Barnes still has upside and even if he never realizes his full potential he can shoot and defend. if you keep the pick you can always trade Randle if you lose the pick Barnes Randle Clarkson and Druss is not bad core. Clarkson need to be a combo backup guard and Randle probably cant be a starter longterm until he improves his jumper.

Bottomline chasing big money free agents not named durant/LeBron/Westbrook is silly to me.
Aldridge is one of the few not super duper star FA's that has (so far) proved to be worth signing to a max.

Lakers need defenders in the worst way.
Do you think that tv deal will allow them to be patient?

[RsxPiimp]

Do you think that tv deal will allow them to be patient?
yeah i do, especially if they get ingram or simmons in this draft

[Kidd K]

To be fair to Stephen A, he did say before LeBron left Cleveland he was going to Miami, then predicted he would leave to go home when absolutely no one said LeBron would leave another team. So it's not like he doesn't hear players talk.

Tbh he also gets made fun of rather often for never going to games or being in any clubhouses, yet always has random "hearsay". He did guess the LeBron thing right, but blind mice find cheese sometimes too. Not as bad as Broutard but he flings bullshit a lot too.

[DPG21920]

They do eventually.
But it would be smart to wait for a Superfriends level team-up rather than blowing max money on those guys.
I still argue despite his flaws... the best use of resources is throwing the sink at Barnes. Sure, they could match and if they do their team will be locked as is and they will probably lose guys and have to replace them with ring chasers which can doesn't always work. Plus the Curry extension looms.

Barnes still has upside and even if he never realizes his full potential he can shoot and defend. if you keep the pick you can always trade Randle if you lose the pick Barnes Randle Clarkson and Druss is not bad core. Clarkson need to be a combo backup guard and Randle probably cant be a starter longterm until he improves his jumper.

Bottomline chasing big money free agents not named durant/LeBron/Westbrook is silly to me.
Aldridge is one of the few not super duper star FA's that has (so far) proved to be worth signing to a max.

Lakers need defenders in the worst way.

I personally don't disagree but you can't discount the embarrassment factor & Kobe factor. Lakers seem embarrassed. They know this is by far the lowest point in their proud franchise history. People only put up with losing so long. That's where the Kobe factor came in. They could sell the bullshit ketchup Popsicles to Kobe fans while he was there - they would still pay to see him play & even believed he could lead them to the playoffs. He's gone now and what's left for fans to pay for?

Based on that and Mitch's comments I believe the pressure is too great to ignore. They will swing hard now for whomever they can get. We will just see if they have the juice to pull a top tier FA like Durant.

[Killakobe81]

Deeps and Djohn both bring up great points ...no lie.
I truly hope we do not make a panic move to satisfy TWC or spoiled Lakerfans.
This sucks. It really and truly sucks to be iin the lotto for 3 straight years ...

But I would rather save cap space then overpay every guy we have chased save maybe Aldridge.
Dwight ...
Melo ...
Greg monroe?!!

how would any of them made us any better off/ we win 27-30 instead of 17-20?!

I worry DD and Whiteside will be our Parson and wesley Matthews without our Dirk to even make it easier to swallow (that's what she said) ...

[djohn2oo8]

Deeps and Djohn both bring up great points ...no lie.
I truly hope we do not make a panic move to satisfy TWC or spoiled Lakerfans.
This sucks. It really and truly sucks to be iin the lotto for 3 straight years ...

But I would rather save cap space then overpay every guy we have chased save maybe Aldridge.
Dwight ...
Melo ...
Greg monroe?!!

how would any of them made us any better off/ we win 27-30 instead of 17-20?!

I worry DD and Whiteside will be our Parson and wesley Matthews without our Dirk to even make it easier to swallow (that's what she said) ...
I think there are only 3 guys worth a max. KD, Curry, and LeBron.

[Killakobe81]

I think there are only 3 guys worth a max. KD, Curry, and LeBron.

I have been arguing that for 3 years tbh.
I did not have Curry on that list 3 years ago but agree with his inclusion.
I would strongly consder adding Kiwi as the 4th ...

Deandre, Kobe, Hayward, Harden, wall etc. pretty much every max deal signed in the past 5 years none desrve that kind of scratch but these dumb ass owners will pay it ...

[RsxPiimp]

I think there are only 3 guys worth a max. KD, Curry, and LeBron.

:lol

[djohn2oo8]

I have been arguing that for 3 years tbh.
I did not have Curry on that list 3 years ago but agree with his inclusion.
I would strongly consder adding Kiwi as the 4th ...

Deandre, Kobe, Hayward, Harden, wall etc. pretty much every max deal signed in the past 5 years none desrve that kind of scratch but these dumb ass owners will pay it ...
Kawhi has got to show up against GS to justify that contract.

[DPG21920]

Kawhi has got to show up against GS to justify that contract.

Kawhi has already justified it. He is making nothing compared to what the new guys next year will make. DPOY and his stats in the regular season more than justify his pay check. If he leads them to a WCF he will be under paid especially after the next round of deals is handed out.

[DPG21920]

So there's the rub. We all know there are only a handful of guys that are worth "max". My definition of a max guy is that by himself, he can keep you in a playoff hunt and if you give him talent he can take you to a finals.

But if there are only 5-7 guys like that, then that leaves most teas having to build around someone else. You can't just wait forever. Lakers, if they can't pull a top 5 guys, will have to build like a BOS is building. Get a bunch of good guys vs 2 Max Guys.

[djohn2oo8]

Kawhi has already justified it. He is making nothing compared to what the new guys next year will make. DPOY and his stats in the regular season more than justify his pay check. If he leads them to a WCF he will be under paid especially after the next round of deals is handed out.
He has been a no show against the best team in the NBA for the past few games. 94 million and you don't show up against GS? Winning DPOY is great, that's a regular season award. What use is it if he disappears against Curry in the playoffs?

[DPG21920]

He has been a no show against the best team in the NBA for the past few games. 94 million and you don't show up against GS? Winning DPOY is great, what use is it if he disappears against Curry?

1. It's a small sample size you are referencing.

2. He's a finals MVP & now 2x DPOY. So that alone totally justifies being maxed out when you are a 24 year old.

3. He also has been to 3 WCF, 2 Finals and like I said, won one of them.

The fact he's struggled some against what may go down as the best team of all time does not mean he's not worth the max. By that logic, no one but Curry is worth the max.

[djohn2oo8]

1. It's a small sample size you are referencing.

2. He's a finals MVP & now 2x DPOY. So that alone totally justifies being maxed out when you are a 24 year old.

3. He also has been to 3 WCF, 2 Finals and like I said, won one of them.

The fact he's struggled some against what may go down as the best team of all time does not mean he's not worth the max. By that logic, no one but Curry is worth the max.
And that's fine. I'm asking, if you are paid nearly 100 million, shouldn't you be expected to lead your team as the go to guy, at least to the WCF rather than being underpaid if he does so? That kind of money should lead to more expectations.

At the same time I agree about the new contracts making this max look miniscule.

[DPG21920]

And that's fine. I'm asking, if you are paid nearly 100 million, shouldn't you be expected to lead your team as the go to guy, at least to the WCF rather than being underpaid if he does so? That kind of money should lead to more expectations.

At the same time I agree about the new contracts making this max look miniscule.

I wouldn't say it's unreasonable to expect a max guy to lead you there, but it's rare. Look at how many max guys have not even done that let alone won a finals MVP/DPOY. I think making the WCF is a huge accomplishment and if a guy can do that multiple times, yeah, I think he's probably underpaid (in the context of Kawhi's deal vs the new max coming up).

[djohn2oo8]

I wouldn't say it's unreasonable to expect a max guy to lead you there, but it's rare. Look at how many max guys have not even done that let alone won a finals MVP/DPOY. I think making the WCF is a huge accomplishment and if a guy can do that multiple times, yeah, I think he's probably underpaid (in the context of Kawhi's deal vs the new max coming up).
Agree. I'm Curious about this new max guys are going to get, how much it will be.

[baseline bum]

I think there are only 3 guys worth a max. KD, Curry, and LeBron.

That's insane. Those players are worth at least 50% more than the max. There are lots of players worth the current max $15-$22 million right now. You're going to have a ton of max players when the league caps contracts at say the Kevin Love level of market value.

[resistanze]

Please let this be true.

[djohn2oo8]

That's insane. Those players are worth at least 50% more than the max. There are lots of players worth the current max $15-$22 million right now. You're going to have a ton of max players when the league caps contracts at say the Kevin Love level of market value.
I meant the new max which will probably be at least 30 million a year? But yeah, those are the players who I would trust to start a franchise with.

[baseline bum]

I meant the new max which will probably be at least 30 million a year? But yeah, those are the players who I would trust to start a franchise with.

The new max won't be market value either for those guys. Under the new TV deal Curry would be a $50 million a year player easily like Jordan was a $40 million (inflation adjusted) player in 1998, the year before max contracts came into the collective bargaining agreement.

[baseline bum]

And Leonard at $16 million a season is an enormous bargain under the new tv deal. Hell even Aldrdige at $20 million is a great deal considering how expensive contracts are about to get.

[Koolaid_Man]

Deeps and Djohn both bring up great points ...no lie.
I truly hope we do not make a panic move to satisfy TWC or spoiled Lakerfans.
This sucks. It really and truly sucks to be iin the lotto for 3 straight years ...

But I would rather save cap space then overpay every guy we have chased save maybe Aldridge.
Dwight ...
Melo ...
Greg monroe?!!

how would any of them made us any better off/ we win 27-30 instead of 17-20?!

I worry DD and Whiteside will be our Parson and wesley Matthews without our Dirk to even make it easier to swallow (that's what she said) ...

At some point you gotta stop worrying about Cap space and start spending...you gonna Fuck around and be 60 yrs old still talking about Cap space :lol

[Killakobe81]

At some point you gotta stop worrying about Cap space and start spending...you gonna Fuck around and be 60 yrs old still talking about Cap space :lol

Yes but spend it on the right players, Kool not just sign players to look good. Dont mistake being active in free agency with being a organization with a clue ...

[Koolaid_Man]

Yes but spend it on the right players, Kool not just sign players to look good. Dont mistake being active in free agency with being a organization with a clue ...

You gotta go big or you gotta go home..we have to swing for the home run again...because the way the NBA works you can't be successful in a serial or linear fashion...it has to be a parallel operation....for example let's say you be prudent and sign " the right" player....then you have to be bad or mediocre until the next "right" player comes along...till it ends up being a perpetual state of mediocrity...you sign this guy wait...lose he gets injured or old and you sign the next guy to the ideal contract....I say Fuck all that shit...grow some hairy balls go for it all....thats my philosophy :hat

[Koolaid_Man]

Kawhi has already justified it. He is making nothing compared to what the new guys next year will make. DPOY and his stats in the regular season more than justify his pay check. If he leads them to a WCF he will be under paid especially after the next round of deals is handed out.


You're worse than a 60 yr old pot- bellied guy in a steakhouse with no dentures trying to eat a steak....He just signed his max contract numnuts....he has done nothing to justify it except chew on his tongue that's operated by the remote button on his head...and Ohh yeah get his shit pushed in by the Sous Chef :lol

[DPG21920]

Kool, why do you have to be so stupid? Honestly - why?

[ambchang]

this. By the time we are a #2 seed in the west Derozan will be way past his prime ...

He'd likely be dead by then, and so will you and I, unless we live to be 120.

[Splits]

Because he's a in a VERY deep homosexual panic, although my guess is he's tasted a penis or 20. But he's one of those closeted faggots that hates himself for being what he deep down truly is.

Aside from that he's a mongoloid that pretends to be everything he dreams of being on a fan site. You have to be a special kind of fucked up to do that.

In reality, being stupid is like 5th or 6 on the list of things that's wrong with him.

:lmao

[LkrFan]

Do you think that tv deal will allow them to be patient?

No. It's contingent on ratings. With Kobe, they still made money hand over fist - despite 3 straight lotto teams. Kobe's retired now. Time for them to put together a competent squad, or lose the rest of the $5B deal.

This summer will be interesting, to say the least.

[LkrFan]

Don't do it mitch.
FIFY

[midnightpulp]

FIFY

You shouldn't back this. DeRozan is no game changer, and you basically have the same player in Jordan Clarkson, who will cost a whole lot less.

There's no quick FA fixes for the Lakers right now. You first need to build up that youth core to a decent team who can win 30-35 games, and THEN pursue the big name FAs who can take that core to the next level. See how the Lakers developed Eddie Jones, Van Exel, Elden Campbell first, and then landed Shaq.

Bringing a marquee FA now will just further stunt the development of your youth.

[Raven]

this. By the time we are a #2 seed in the west Derozan will be way past his prime ...

you mean retired/dead?

[Killakobe81]

He'd likely be dead by then, and so will you and I, unless we live to be 120.

dont be done Amb.
It may take 5 or even 10 but not over 80 years (well at least for me )

[Killakobe81]

You shouldn't back this. DeRozan is no game changer, and you basically have the same player in Jordan Clarkson, who will cost a whole lot less.

There's no quick FA fixes for the Lakers right now. You first need to build up that youth core to a decent team who can win 30-35 games, and THEN pursue the big name FAs who can take that core to the next level. See how the Lakers developed Eddie Jones, Van Exel, Elden Campbell first, and then landed Shaq.

Bringing a marquee FA now will just further stunt the development of your youth.

Mid i agree with you 100%,
My fear is the Lakers Front office and fanbase wont agree ...
Hopefully those guys turn us down again.

Again DD Whiteside and even Barnes to a lessor extent scream Greg Monroe most likely Hayward at best type signings.
I pray keeping the pick forces us to remain cautious with our spending ...

But if we lose it we will double down on a DD whiteside poo-poo platter ...
wont win a title barely make the playoffs (at best) and get swept by the Spurs or the State ...

I do not co-sign Dd, whiteside nor even Barnes at max money.
Only reason I consider Barnes is he has championship experience is still young and he can defend.
hje is overrated on defense and is not a great playmaker but he is a young proven 3 and D starter with upside.

[Killakobe81]

you mean retired/dead?

Stop it.

[ambchang]

dont be done Amb.
It may take 5 or even 10 but not over 80 years (well at least for me )

In all seriousness though. The only FA that could really make a material impact this year is Durant, and even Durant, pre-injury, in his prime, with Westbrook, couldn't get a title, I am not sure how Durant, post-injury, slightly past his prime, can lead a worse team in Lakers to anything. You can blame Brooks all you want, but Scott is way worse as a coach.

[Koolaid_Man]

You shouldn't back this. DeRozan is no game changer, and you basically have the same player in Jordan Clarkson, who will cost a whole lot less.

There's no quick FA fixes for the Lakers right now. You first need to build up that youth core to a decent team who can win 30-35 games, and THEN pursue the big name FAs who can take that core to the next level. See how the Lakers developed Eddie Jones, Van Exel, Elden Campbell first, and then landed Shaq.

Bringing a marquee FA now will just further stunt the development of your youth.


^ :lol I'm quite surprised I didn't catch this bullshit earlier....I guess my mid bullshit radar needs cleaning :lol

Let Kool break it down for you...you tried hard I give you credit but you have blinders on while at the same time engaged in double speak but you can't slide your bullshit past Kool...

We're not in a position to build up a core more suited to role playing with the exception of Randle....you bash our core relentlessly now you want us to wait 3-4 yrs to build them up to 30 games...without an old and broken down Kobe we win 5 games tops...this core is not athletic enough but more importantly will never play defense ...

So we cannot wait...Mitch is not a good talent evaluator nor do we have in place a system to develop guys....and stop trying to compare landing the Most Dominate Big of our era (Shaq) paired with gods son (Kobe)...under the tutelage of Dr. Buss and Jerry West with the situation today...Van Exell and Eddie Jones were already established All-d bona-fide top talents and all nba guys who were great defensively and All-stars after 2-3 yrs in...Russell and Clarkson are not that potential....

So the point of bringing in Derozan at just under the max is obviously not a linear move...it means you plan to bring in other top talent to maximize VALUE...get it?

We did the cap space wait game..Kobe is gone...most of the trash contracts are gone..NBA money and cap space for teams has gone up...why wait 3-4 more years once all the good to great players are maxed out with only a marginal talent pool left? A marginal talent pool to cherry pick from to add to a current roster that every knows has a ceiling of very good role players at best...hell you've said it yourself many many times as you've bashed these guys day in and day out....

The right move is for the Lakers to hire a new younger college aged coach or Jeff Van Gundy since he's no nonsense and really knows the fucking game and has a keen pulse on talent and player development...get out of his way get hide Mitch and Jim in a closet and let Jeff work his magic....bring in Derozan or Harrison Barnes and 2 other positional stars ( such as Durant and Whiteside) to play with either of them and since we currently have favorable rookie scale contracts keep our rookies who show promise and let them develop real time by playing with very good to great and already established players..that is how you develop talent....make them better through their teammates while they win so that their confidence sky rockets....either they will bubble up and replace the stars as they age or they will be exposed as garbage...but you don't allow them to keep putting up 5-10 win seasons thinking they're getting better under the tutelage of Byron / Jim / and Kupchak while what little confidence they have continues to erode because they continue to lose...

Its simple like I said this is the ideal prescription for success not that bullshit that you and DPG keep spamming threads with :lol

But I get it..you represent the Spurs anything to keep Laker fan down right ? Even if it means being a wolf in sheepskin...you know Kool aint wit det shit :lol

[djohn2oo8]

Mid i agree with you 100%,
My fear is the Lakers Front office and fanbase wont agree ...
Hopefully those guys turn us down again.

Again DD Whiteside and even Barnes to a lessor extent scream Greg Monroe most likely Hayward at best type signings.
I pray keeping the pick forces us to remain cautious with our spending ...

But if we lose it we will double down on a DD whiteside poo-poo platter ...
wont win a title barely make the playoffs (at best) and get swept by the Spurs or the State ...

I do not co-sign Dd, whiteside nor even Barnes at max money.
Only reason I consider Barnes is he has championship experience is still young and he can defend.
hje is overrated on defense and is not a great playmaker but he is a young proven 3 and D starter with upside.

At least you have players who want to play and dont hate each other tbh.

[LkrFan]

You shouldn't back this. DeRozan is no game changer, and you basically have the same player in Jordan Clarkson, who will cost a whole lot less.

There's no quick FA fixes for the Lakers right now. You first need to build up that youth core to a decent team who can win 30-35 games, and THEN pursue the big name FAs who can take that core to the next level. See how the Lakers developed Eddie Jones, Van Exel, Elden Campbell first, and then landed Shaq.

Bringing a marquee FA now will just further stunt the development of your youth.

Absolutely. I hate it, but it is what it is. DeRozan is not that good IMO.

[benefactor]

Because he's a in a VERY deep homosexual panic, although my guess is he's tasted a penis or 20. But he's one of those closeted faggots that hates himself for being what he deep down truly is.

Aside from that he's a mongoloid that pretends to be everything he dreams of being on a fan site. You have to be a special kind of fucked up to do that.

In reality, being stupid is like 5th or 6 on the list of things that's wrong with him.
:lol

[lefty20]

plz mitch max him and whiteside

[TrainOfThought5]

DeRozan would make the Lakers a wonderful middle of the road team. I can support that.

Id love watching Kawhi dominate him for a decade.

[TrainOfThought5]

And Leonard at $16 million a season is an enormous bargain under the new tv deal. Hell even Aldrdige at $20 million is a great deal considering how expensive contracts are about to get.

Guys wont understand this until they see whiteside and Derozan making 25 mil, getting gentlemen swept in the first round.

[djohn2oo8]

During Tuesday’s show of ESPN’s First Take, Stephen A. Smith claimed DeRozan has made it very clear he wants to come to Los Angeles this summer:

“He’s made it very, very clear that he wants to be in L.A.,” Smith said of DeRozan’s intentions in free agency. “He has family out there. He’s from out there. He wants to be in L.A."

[djohn2oo8]

Barnes with the max?

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[Killakobe81]

During Tuesday’s show of ESPN’s First Take, Stephen A. Smith claimed DeRozan has made it very clear he wants to come to Los Angeles this summer:

“He’s made it very, very clear that he wants to be in L.A.,” Smith said of DeRozan’s intentions in free agency. “He has family out there. He’s from out there. He wants to be in L.A."

Djohn why do you keep raining on my parade?! :lol
OK, lets say we sign DD we dont re-sign Clarkson?
DD will make more $ is older and not a better 3pt shooter.
IF we lose the pick make a strong pitch for Barnes ...just not a max deal...
Now that we have Luke someone that knows his system makes a great deal of sense

DD makes little sense to me ...

[Killakobe81]

Barnes with the max?

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ha I just said the same thing ... but I still wouldnt pay him max ...

[djohn2oo8]

Djohn why do you keep raining on my parade?! :lol
OK, lets say we sign DD we dont re-sign Clarkson?
DD will make more $ is older and not a better 3pt shooter.
IF we lose the pick make a strong pitch for Barnes ...just not a max deal...
Now that we have Luke someone that knows his system makes a great deal of sense

DD makes little sense to me ...

Im just saying, do you Trust Jim Buss to make the right decision? :lol

They just want a name I would think. Having missed out on guys in free agency, they aren't patient. You are right DD makes zero sense for them but Mitch had said they were going to try and build through Free Agency too. Gotta keep in mind Jim's clock is running out.

[Killakobe81]

Im just saying, do you Trust Jim Buss to make the right decision? :lol

They just want a name I would think. Having missed out on guys in free agency, they aren't patient. You are right DD makes zero sense for them but Mitch had said they were going to try and build through Free Agency too. Gotta keep in mind Jim's clock is running out.

I still trust Mitch .... but it's wavering with the coaching hires (pre-Luke)

For me the pick is the key.
If we keep it not sure what the rush is to sign big names ...
What we would need are proven still young vets that play defense

[DMC]

Djohn why do you keep raining on my parade?! :lol
OK, lets say we sign DD we dont re-sign Clarkson?
DD will make more $ is older and not a better 3pt shooter.
IF we lose the pick make a strong pitch for Barnes ...just not a max deal...
Now that we have Luke someone that knows his system makes a great deal of sense

DD makes little sense to me ...
Luke has a system?

[StrengthAndHonor]

Why is the OP obsessed about the Lakers? Shouldn't he discuss the Rockets future?

[Killakobe81]

Why is the OP obsessed about the Lakers? Shouldn't he discuss the Rockets future?

It's all good ...it's NBA news and the Lakers are one of the more popular teams ...but he does seem to be very interested in who we sign or don't :lol

[StrengthAndHonor]

It's all good ...it's NBA news and the Lakers are one of the more popular teams ...but he does seem to be very interested in who we sign or don't :lol
I suppose

[ambchang]

I am more interested in why Laker fans are actively stopping people from talking about the lakers.

Ashamed much?

[Killakobe81]

I am more interested in why Laker fans are actively stopping people from talking about the lakers.

Ashamed much?

why would be ashamed? Because of 3 straight crappy years?
gotta take the good with the bad ...

[ambchang]

why would be ashamed? Because of 3 straight crappy years?
gotta take the good with the bad ...
So why all the raised hair when anybody mentions the lakers?

[djohn2oo8]

It's all good ...it's NBA news and the Lakers are one of the more popular teams ...but he does seem to be very interested in who we sign or don't :lol

You mean how Lakerfan have been obsessed with the Rockets ever since Dwight left? :lol

[140]

Why is the OP obsessed about the Lakers? Shouldn't he discuss the Rockets future?

Why do you sport a Clippers logo when you're clearly a lakers/kirby stan tbh?

[140]

DeMax Der:lolzan and the lakers are a match made in heaven btw

[StrengthAndHonor]

Why do you sport a Clippers logo when you're clearly a lakers/kirby stan tbh?

Uhh. I rarely talk about the Lakers and yes, I am also a Kobe fan. It's ok to root for another player that doesn't play for your team.

[ambchang]

Uhh. I rarely talk about the Lakers and yes, I am also a Kobe fan. It's ok to root for another player that doesn't play for your team.

Its even more rare for you talk about the Clippers though.

[Killakobe81]

You mean how Lakerfan have been obsessed with the Rockets ever since Dwight left? :lol

Obsessed with Rockets?
No.
Wanting to see Dwight fail?
Guilty as charged.

[StrengthAndHonor]

Its even more rare for you talk about the Clippers though.

I try, but this forum will not generate decent conversations if it doesn't involve the usual "Choke Paul, Blake Griffin blows, LOL Deandre Jordan LOL" attempts in trolling and humor. That's why me and CN rarely talks about the Clippers. I've been an active member at Clippers Top Buzz since 2001 until now.

[140]

Its even more rare for you talk about the Clippers though.

amb

[ambchang]

I try, but this forum will not generate decent conversations if it doesn't involve the usual "Choke Paul, Blake Griffin blows, LOL Deandre Jordan LOL" attempts in trolling and humor. That's why me and CN rarely talks about the Clippers. I've been an active member at Clippers Top Buzz since 2001 until now.

There is no way CN is not a Spurs fan masquerading as a Clipper fan solely to troll.

[Killakobe81]

I try, but this forum will not generate decent conversations if it doesn't involve the usual "Choke Paul, Blake Griffin blows, LOL Deandre Jordan LOL" attempts in trolling and humor. That's why me and CN rarely talks about the Clippers. I've been an active member at Clippers Top Buzz since 2001 until now.

Dont defend your fandom... proudly repping the Clips (especially if you are pre-CP3 fan) is tough especially when most fans in So Cal were born Laker fans.
Props.

[StrengthAndHonor]

Dont defend your fandom... proudly repping the Clips (especially if you are pre-CP3 fan) is tough especially when most fans in So Cal were born Laker fans.
Props.

It was extremely difficult. I became a fan in 98 and had unwavering support since. That was the year we drafted Olowokandi and majority of Clippers fans were excited. Kandi boasted significant gifts and we honestly thought he's the real deal :lol


To be quite honest, I followed the Lakers especially after Lamar Odom was traded to them. He was one of the most exciting players in Clippers history during our down years, and despite being limited, I naturally supported him where he went even his 1 year stint in Miami. I can't speak for everyone but I'm just a huge basketball fans that enjoys certain individuals that brings tons of excitement, Kobe, Vince and KG at one point were some of my favorite players even after we drafted Blake and got Paul.

[Killakobe81]

It was extremely difficult. I became a fan in 98 and had unwavering support since. That was the year we drafted Olowokandi and majority of Clippers fans were excited. Kandi boasted significant gifts and we honestly thought he's the real deal :lol


To be quite honest, I followed the Lakers especially after Lamar Odom was traded to them. He was one of the most exciting players in Clippers history during our down years, and despite being limited, I naturally supported him where he went even his 1 year stint in Miami. I can't speak for everyone but I'm just a huge basketball fans that enjoys certain individuals that brings tons of excitement, Kobe, Vince and KG at one point were some of my favorite players even after we drafted Blake and got Paul.

Respect.
Wish more clip fans I met were like you ... most are just so jealous of the Lakers like that hack Marcellus Wiley.
People think all Laker fans are jumping on gstate ...but I will never leave I just enjoy State they just play such a pretty brand of hoops.
Heck If I never moved to SA I would feel the same way about the Spurs tbh ...
I love Draymonds fire.
Klay's form.
Steph's handle and array of shots.
Iggy was always a favorite of mine I have been watching him since he and Luke used to beat up on my Bruins at Zona ...

[StrengthAndHonor]

Respect.
Wish more clip fans I met were like you ... most are just so jealous of the Lakers like that hack Marcellus Wiley.
People think all Laker fans are jumping on gstate ...but I will never leave I just enjoy State they just play such a pretty brand of hoops.
Heck If I never moved to SA I would feel the same way about the Spurs tbh ...
I love Draymonds fire.
Klay's form.
Steph's handle and array of shots.
Iggy was always a favorite of mine I have been watching him since he and Luke used to beat up on my Bruins at Zona ...
Thanks man. Most Clipper fans supported the Lakers especially during Shaq daddy years. There are a few who were bitter but they were rare considering the ownership and management was horrible in Sterlings years so we were naturally envious the of the Lakers franchise.


and FWIW, I was at the actual Clipper game when Keith Clossed was in attendance as a Clipper fan:lol

[LkrFan]

You mean how Lakerfan have been obsessed with the Rockets ever since Dwight left? :lol

:rollin :lmao :rollin

[Killakobe81]

Thanks man. Most Clipper fans supported the Lakers especially during Shaq daddy years. There are a few who were bitter but they were rare considering the ownership and management was horrible in Sterlings years so we were naturally envious the of the Lakers franchise.


and FWIW, I was at the actual Clipper game when Keith Clossed was in attendance as a Clipper fan:lol

I have seen the Clips at the old Sports Arena (dump)
At staples vs the Lakers as the "home" team (cheaper tix)
But there wasnt much of a rivalry until you started kicking our ass the past 4 years ...

[StrengthAndHonor]

I have seen the Clips at the old Sports Arena (dump)
At staples vs the Lakers as the "home" team (cheaper tix)
But there wasnt much of a rivalry until you started kicking our ass the past 4 years ...
Haha, you guys are on your way up though. I think D'Angelo is going to be a really good player. All Star caliber, no doubt.

[Killakobe81]

Haha, you guys are on your way up though. I think D'Angelo is going to be a really good player. All Star caliber, no doubt.

We will see . I have seen enough to overlook the video incident and to cut him some slack.
We really need to keep our pick.
You add that to Luke and some development from D'russ and I will feel much better about our future.

Swaggy gotta go and hibbert too
we need to say no to DD unless he will take a discount to come back to so Cal ...