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tbear280
04-18-2016, 06:25 PM
Is there a post out there already highlightng what next years pay roll is going to look like? If so, can someone link the post. If not, can someone break it down for a dummy like me please. Thank you

spurraider21
04-18-2016, 06:34 PM
http://www.spotrac.com/nba/san-antonio-spurs/cap/2016/

TXstbobcat
04-18-2016, 06:36 PM
Name
2015-16
2016-17
2017-18
2018-19
2019-20


LaMarcus Aldridge (http://www.basketballinsiders.com/san-antonio-spurs-team-salary/#)
$19,689,000
$20,575,005
$21,461,010
$22,347,015



Kawhi Leonard (http://www.basketballinsiders.com/san-antonio-spurs-team-salary/#)
$16,407,500
$17,638,063
$18,868,625
$20,099,189
$21,329,752


Tony Parker (http://www.basketballinsiders.com/san-antonio-spurs-team-salary/#)
$13,437,500
$14,445,313
$15,453,126




Danny Green (http://www.basketballinsiders.com/san-antonio-spurs-team-salary/#)
$10,000,000
$10,000,000
$10,000,000
$10,000,000



Boris Diaw (http://www.basketballinsiders.com/san-antonio-spurs-team-salary/#)
$7,500,000
$7,000,000
$7,500,000




Tim Duncan (http://www.basketballinsiders.com/san-antonio-spurs-team-salary/#)
$5,250,000
$5,643,750





Patty Mills (http://www.basketballinsiders.com/san-antonio-spurs-team-salary/#)
$3,578,947
$3,578,948





Manu Ginobili (http://www.basketballinsiders.com/san-antonio-spurs-team-salary/#)
$2,814,000
$2,940,630





David West (http://www.basketballinsiders.com/san-antonio-spurs-team-salary/#)
$1,499,187
$1,551,659





Boban Marjanovic (http://www.basketballinsiders.com/san-antonio-spurs-team-salary/#)
$1,200,000
$1,500,000





Kyle Anderson (http://www.basketballinsiders.com/san-antonio-spurs-team-salary/#)
$1,142,879
$1,192,080
$2,151,704
$3,227,556



Matt Bonner (http://www.basketballinsiders.com/san-antonio-spurs-team-salary/#)
$947,276






Rasual Butler (http://www.basketballinsiders.com/san-antonio-spurs-team-salary/#)
$947,276






Ray McCallum (waived)
$947,276






Jonathan Simmons (http://www.basketballinsiders.com/san-antonio-spurs-team-salary/#)
$525,093
$874,636
$1,214,746




Jimmer Fredette (waived)
$507,711






Andre Miller (http://www.basketballinsiders.com/san-antonio-spurs-team-salary/#)
$250,750






Kevin Martin (http://www.basketballinsiders.com/san-antonio-spurs-team-salary/#)
$200,600






Guaranteed Total:
$86,844,995
$70,429,409
$65,782,761
$20,099,189



Inclusive Total:
$86,844,995

BillMc
04-18-2016, 06:39 PM
Name
2015-16
2016-17
2017-18
2018-19
2019-20


LaMarcus Aldridge (http://www.basketballinsiders.com/san-antonio-spurs-team-salary/#)
$19,689,000
$20,575,005
$21,461,010
$22,347,015



Kawhi Leonard (http://www.basketballinsiders.com/san-antonio-spurs-team-salary/#)
$16,407,500
$17,638,063
$18,868,625
$20,099,189
$21,329,752


Tony Parker (http://www.basketballinsiders.com/san-antonio-spurs-team-salary/#)
$13,437,500
$14,445,313
$15,453,126




Danny Green (http://www.basketballinsiders.com/san-antonio-spurs-team-salary/#)
$10,000,000
$10,000,000
$10,000,000
$10,000,000



Boris Diaw (http://www.basketballinsiders.com/san-antonio-spurs-team-salary/#)
$7,500,000
$7,000,000
$7,500,000




Tim Duncan (http://www.basketballinsiders.com/san-antonio-spurs-team-salary/#)
$5,250,000
$5,643,750





Patty Mills (http://www.basketballinsiders.com/san-antonio-spurs-team-salary/#)
$3,578,947
$3,578,948





Manu Ginobili (http://www.basketballinsiders.com/san-antonio-spurs-team-salary/#)
$2,814,000
$2,940,630





David West (http://www.basketballinsiders.com/san-antonio-spurs-team-salary/#)
$1,499,187
$1,551,659





Boban Marjanovic (http://www.basketballinsiders.com/san-antonio-spurs-team-salary/#)
$1,200,000
$1,500,000





Kyle Anderson (http://www.basketballinsiders.com/san-antonio-spurs-team-salary/#)
$1,142,879
$1,192,080
$2,151,704
$3,227,556



Matt Bonner (http://www.basketballinsiders.com/san-antonio-spurs-team-salary/#)
$947,276






Rasual Butler (http://www.basketballinsiders.com/san-antonio-spurs-team-salary/#)
$947,276






Ray McCallum (waived)
$947,276






Jonathan Simmons (http://www.basketballinsiders.com/san-antonio-spurs-team-salary/#)
$525,093
$874,636
$1,214,746




Jimmer Fredette (waived)
$507,711






Andre Miller (http://www.basketballinsiders.com/san-antonio-spurs-team-salary/#)
$250,750






Kevin Martin (http://www.basketballinsiders.com/san-antonio-spurs-team-salary/#)
$200,600






Guaranteed Total:
$86,844,995
$70,429,409
$65,782,761
$20,099,189



Inclusive Total:
$86,844,995





Thanks. I can kind of guess but what do all the colors mean? Blue is player option? Red team option? Green is RFA? Purple???

GSH
04-18-2016, 06:41 PM
Nice chart. Thanks for posting. Those things help a thread get some legit discussion. :tu

TXstbobcat
04-18-2016, 06:43 PM
Thanks. I can kind of guess but what do all the colors mean? Blue is player option? Red team option? Green is RFA? Purple???

Sorry I didn't include that part.

Red is non-guaranteed.
Purple is team option.
Green is qualifying offer.
Blue is player option.

Leetonidas
04-18-2016, 06:49 PM
So the cap is going to be 92m next season, meaning the Spurs have some money to spend?

BillMc
04-18-2016, 06:50 PM
Sorry I didn't include that part.

Red is non-guaranteed.
Purple is team option.
Green is qualifying offer.
Blue is player option.

Thanks. :bobo

Bender
04-18-2016, 06:52 PM
you guessed 1 out of 4 correctly, BillMc...

tonight...you
04-18-2016, 06:53 PM
I want Rasual Butler back on the team.
It's going to be very interesting to see RC truly earn his paycheck these next few years with Duncan and Ginobili potentially leaving.

Even more-so after Pop leaves...

BillMc
04-18-2016, 06:56 PM
you guessed 1 out of 4 correctly, BillMc...

2 out 4. When I said RFA that meant a qualifying offer.

GSH
04-18-2016, 07:00 PM
So the cap is going to be 92m next season, meaning the Spurs have some money to spend?

The problem is, the cap increase goes to everyone. Most teams will have some money to spend. The best news, IMO is the players they have locked into salaries. But, yeah, they are going to be able to go after a good player with their cap room. Good players aren't going to go cheap this offseason. The price of poker just went up.

BadOne
04-18-2016, 07:02 PM
Dang man. Parker's contract seems Kobe-esque. Curry is slated to make $12,112,359 next year too. Ouch. Hope he can pick up his play and earn that pay when it matters.

BillMc
04-18-2016, 07:03 PM
Patty will earn exactly $1 more next year than this year.

Bender
04-18-2016, 07:04 PM
2 out 4. When I said RFA that meant a qualifying offer.

ok... shows what I know. I wouldn't have gotten any probably!

tonight...you
04-18-2016, 07:06 PM
The problem is, the cap increase goes to everyone. Most teams will have some money to spend. The best news, IMO is the players they have locked into salaries. But, yeah, they are going to be able to go after a good player with their cap room. Good players aren't going to go cheap this offseason. The price of poker just went up.
While true- unless Golden State somehow scores Durant, I don't see much happening this offseason that is going to move the needle much except for the swirling mass of semi-contenders and Playoff hopefuls that always change hands and futile hopes every season.

I know you didn't bring this up, but I think, right now, gaining more continuity between Aldridge and Leonard and the adjusted system going forward is going to be more important than any player acquisition for this team.
That is, of course, assuming Duncan stays one... more... year. Just one more, big fella. Maybe two...


Edit: And finding someone to replace/play for/spell/DO SOMETHING for Tony Parker. That has to be a priority.

BillMc
04-18-2016, 07:06 PM
ok... shows what I know. I wouldn't have gotten any probably!

RC's problem not ours!:toast

sook
04-18-2016, 07:08 PM
Thanks. I can kind of guess but what do all the colors mean? Blue is player option? Red team option? Green is RFA? Purple???

:lmao Danny Green and Porker :lmao

TXstbobcat
04-18-2016, 07:09 PM
With the salary cap increase Leonard's deal will be a bargain for the Spurs. :toast

Seventyniner
04-18-2016, 07:16 PM
Dang man. Parker's contract seems Kobe-esque. Curry is slated to make $12,112,359 next year too. Ouch. Hope he can pick up his play and earn that pay when it matters.

Not Kobe-esque at all. Kobe made $25M this year with a $70M cap (36%). Parker will make $14.5M next year with a ~$92M cap (16%).

Don't get me wrong, I also think that Parker is overpaid for his production. But not near the level of Kobe.

Saying that Parker is overpaid compared to Curry is obvious, but Curry's production-to-salary ratio smokes everybody in the league, not just Parker.

GSH
04-18-2016, 07:27 PM
While true- unless Golden State somehow scores Durant, I don't see much happening this offseason that is going to move the needle much except for the swirling mass of semi-contenders and Playoff hopefuls that always change hands and futile hopes every season.

I know you didn't bring this up, but I think, right now, gaining more continuity between Aldridge and Leonard and the adjusted system going forward is going to be more important than any player acquisition for this team.
That is, of course, assuming Duncan stays one... more... year. Just one more, big fella. Maybe two...



Just saying, there are a whole bunch of free agents this year. Teams are going to have to spend to keep the guys they want, because the extra salary cap is going to let some other teams take shots at them. I'm not talking about which teams will improve - just that there's going to be a lot of spending. I'm with you on hoping Tim stays one more year. Add to that the hope that Boban will progress in the offseason, and live up to the potential we see.

Here's a list of some of the better unrestricted and player-option guys for this offseason. Doesn't matter how good everyone thinks they are, or whether they would fit on the Spurs. The point is, lots of them are gonna get paid.

Unrestricted:
Durant, Horford, DWade, Conley, Hassan Whiteside, Rondo, Batum, Al Jefferson, Ryan Anderson, Pachulia, Bazemore, Jamal Crawford, Deng, Jeff Green, Eric Gordon, Courtney Lee, Mozgov, Teletovic, Mayo, Speights, and a bunch more.

Player Options:
DeRozan, Pau, Dwight Howard, Chandler Parsons, J.R. Smith, Jeremy Lin, Afflalo, DeRon Williams, DWest. I'm sure I left some out, and I'm not counting guys like LeBron, Dirk, and Tim who aren't going anywhere else.

Kikoluna
04-18-2016, 07:45 PM
Lol, patty, $1 more

tonight...you
04-18-2016, 07:45 PM
Just saying, there are a whole bunch of free agents this year. Teams are going to have to spend to keep the guys they want, because the extra salary cap is going to let some other teams take shots at them. I'm not talking about which teams will improve - just that there's going to be a lot of spending. I'm with you on hoping Tim stays one more year. Add to that the hope that Boban will progress in the offseason, and live up to the potential we see.

Here's a list of some of the better unrestricted and player-option guys for this offseason. Doesn't matter how good everyone thinks they are, or whether they would fit on the Spurs. The point is, lots of them are gonna get paid.

Unrestricted:
Durant, Horford, DWade, Conley, Hassan Whiteside, Rondo, Batum, Al Jefferson, Ryan Anderson, Pachulia, Bazemore, Jamal Crawford, Deng, Jeff Green, Eric Gordon, Courtney Lee, Mozgov, Teletovic, Mayo, Speights, and a bunch more.

Player Options:
DeRozan, Pau, Dwight Howard, Chandler Parsons, J.R. Smith, Jeremy Lin, Afflalo, DeRon Williams, DWest. I'm sure I left some out, and I'm not counting guys like LeBron, Dirk, and Tim who aren't going anywhere else.
I know. I know there is a dearth of talent that may be moving around this summer. I just think that, unless a team like the Lakers with massive capspace can coordinate a Lebron-like summer with multiple stars joining up we're going to see faces and uniforms change, but the top hierarchy will remain the same: GS, SA and the Lebron's.

Yeah, you'll see some stronger teams rise, and some teams that didn't make the playoffs make it, but unless there's a Lebron-summer, there won't be a huge change in the NBA.
IMO.

DocDoc
04-18-2016, 08:31 PM
Dang man. Parker's contract seems Kobe-esque. Curry is slated to make $12,112,359 next year too. Ouch. Hope he can pick up his play and earn that pay when it matters.

GS got a huge discount on CUrry because when he signed he was in the middle of ankle rehab and it wasn't clear he was going to recover. He would obviously be a max player if signed now.

vander
04-18-2016, 08:35 PM
man, we're pretty lucky we got Kawhi and LMA signed before this cap gets ridiculous, going over 100 million in 2017/18? and that's the year Curry is a free agent, so he'll get what like 5 years 200 mil?

sexinthatsx
04-18-2016, 08:43 PM
I love TP a ton, but I think it's time to start finding the next starting PG after the GDP (Ginobili, Duncan, Parker) era

Leetonidas
04-18-2016, 08:45 PM
Just saying, there are a whole bunch of free agents this year. Teams are going to have to spend to keep the guys they want, because the extra salary cap is going to let some other teams take shots at them. I'm not talking about which teams will improve - just that there's going to be a lot of spending. I'm with you on hoping Tim stays one more year. Add to that the hope that Boban will progress in the offseason, and live up to the potential we see.

Here's a list of some of the better unrestricted and player-option guys for this offseason. Doesn't matter how good everyone thinks they are, or whether they would fit on the Spurs. The point is, lots of them are gonna get paid.

Unrestricted:
Durant, Horford, DWade, Conley, Hassan Whiteside, Rondo, Batum, Al Jefferson, Ryan Anderson, Pachulia, Bazemore, Jamal Crawford, Deng, Jeff Green, Eric Gordon, Courtney Lee, Mozgov, Teletovic, Mayo, Speights, and a bunch more.

Player Options:
DeRozan, Pau, Dwight Howard, Chandler Parsons, J.R. Smith, Jeremy Lin, Afflalo, DeRon Williams, DWest. I'm sure I left some out, and I'm not counting guys like LeBron, Dirk, and Tim who aren't going anywhere else.

a lot of quality players and the Spurs could probably nab a couple of them. the scary thing is how much money GS will have though. Horford and Bazemore would be nice

Keepin' it real
04-18-2016, 09:38 PM
It's going to be very interesting to see RC truly earn his paycheck these next few years with Duncan and Ginobili potentially leaving.

Yeah because he's not done anything to earn his paycheck so far, right?

http://i.imgur.com/iWKad22.jpg

NASpurs
04-18-2016, 09:48 PM
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tonight...you
04-18-2016, 10:59 PM
Truly ask yourself how much of his success was due to him by himself, or due to...

You know what? Who gives a shit. You win... whatever you want to win.

yaaaaaaaaay you.

SpursBig3s
04-18-2016, 11:09 PM
I love TP a ton, but I think it's time to start finding the next starting PG after the GDP (Ginobili, Duncan, Parker) era


Brilliant take, Watson!

PopTheGOAT
04-18-2016, 11:56 PM
Ryan Anderson would be sick on the Spurs, not sure what he makes though.

SASdynasty!
04-19-2016, 12:10 AM
Dang man. Parker's contract seems Kobe-esque. Curry is slated to make $12,112,359 next year too. Ouch. Hope he can pick up his play and earn that pay when it matters.
Lol, Duncan was making $20+ million in 2011 and getting annihilated by the likes of Zach Randolph. Parker will never in his career be a top-30 paid player in any season. And yet he finished 6th in MVP voting twice, and 12th twice more. He has been severely underpaid in his career.

Spurtacular
04-19-2016, 12:22 AM
With the salary cap increase Leonard's deal will be a bargain for the Spurs. :toast

Even without it. There was an article showing how he was the best bang for his buck; being underpaid by like something like 90 mil or something. If someone has it, post it.

sexinthatsx
04-19-2016, 12:45 AM
Brilliant take, Watson!

Thanks Charlie!

Tully365
04-19-2016, 01:36 AM
The Spurs were really fortunate to lock up Kawhi & Aldridge before the cap increases dramatically... That puts them in a great spot for the next 4 years! Think of OKC-- Durant will take a max contract much bigger than either KL's or LMA's if he stays (and that's a big if) and then the following year they'll face the same situation with Westbrook... so even if Durant & Westbrook do return to the Thunder, that team will still be in the position of having less money to spend on depth than the Spurs will.... so it'll be the same situation as it is right now.

I think the biggest need for the Spurs is a guard who can handle the ball, someone who can pair with either Mills or D Green when Parker's sitting-- the most interesting guy I see who fits that bill is Nick Batum, who could be a Bulls era Ron Harper type of PG when needed and a mini version of prime Manu when playing the 2 guard. He's got a lot of Spur connections, having played with Mills & Aldridge in Portland and with Tony & Boris on the French National team.

The Spurs will need a PG upgrade at some point but I don't think that'll be possible next season with Parker's contract, unless Mills is used in a trade... Batum, who could potentially play 3 positions, looks to me to be the best & most flexible option...

Holden_Caulfield
04-19-2016, 02:47 AM
can we trade parker for one of the sixers bigs :lol

Kineto
04-19-2016, 04:39 AM
I think the biggest need for the Spurs is a guard who can handle the ball, someone who can pair with either Mills or D Green when Parker's sitting-- the most interesting guy I see who fits that bill is Nick Batum, who could be a Bulls era Ron Harper type of PG when needed and a mini version of prime Manu when playing the 2 guard. He's got a lot of Spur connections, having played with Mills & Aldridge in Portland and with Tony & Boris on the French National team.
The Spurs will need a PG upgrade at some point but I don't think that'll be possible next season with Parker's contract, unless Mills is used in a trade... Batum, who could potentially play 3 positions, looks to me to be the best & most flexible option...

Batum will get a 20M$ per year contract this summer. Spurs will not give him that kind of money, and i doubt he would agree to take a huge discount just to play for the spurs.

exstatic
04-19-2016, 07:23 AM
Batum will get a 20M$ per year contract this summer. Spurs will not give him that kind of money, and i doubt he would agree to take a huge discount just to play for the spurs.

How do you figure Batum getting $20M? He's a 4th or 5th option, at best. He's a career 11.7 pt scorer, and his best season was 14.9. He's never been an All Star or All NBA player, and even though he hangs his hat on defense, he's never made the All D team, either. Things will be crazy this summer, but not that crazy. I see his absolute ceiling at $10M, and he's more likely to get the MLE.

Chinook
04-19-2016, 07:27 AM
How do you figure Batum getting $20M? He's a 4th or 5th option, at best. He's a career 11.7 pt scorer, and his best season was 14.9. He's never been an All Star or All NBA player, and even though he hangs his hat on defense, he's never made the All D team, either. Things will be crazy this summer, but not that crazy. I see his absolute ceiling at $10M, and he's more likely to get the MLE.

I think your projection is completely unrealistic. He'll get at least what Wes Matthews got unless he takes a major discount to go to a team like SA. He'll be worth whatever it takes so long as the team has good players in place already.

BG_Spurs_Fan
04-19-2016, 07:50 AM
How do you figure Batum getting $20M? He's a 4th or 5th option, at best. He's a career 11.7 pt scorer, and his best season was 14.9. He's never been an All Star or All NBA player, and even though he hangs his hat on defense, he's never made the All D team, either. Things will be crazy this summer, but not that crazy. I see his absolute ceiling at $10M, and he's more likely to get the MLE.

There's no chance Batum will get $10m per on a $92 mil cap. There will be $1.2 billion in available cap space in the summer with a cap floor at about $81 mil and as many as 20 potential max slots. Batum and others will get paid outrageous money.

Kineto
04-19-2016, 09:07 AM
How do you figure Batum getting $20M? He's a 4th or 5th option, at best. He's a career 11.7 pt scorer, and his best season was 14.9. He's never been an All Star or All NBA player, and even though he hangs his hat on defense, he's never made the All D team, either. Things will be crazy this summer, but not that crazy. I see his absolute ceiling at $10M, and he's more likely to get the MLE.

This year, batum is the 1st/2nd option in the hornet's team, who finish tie to the 3rd place in the east (and play without MKG all year), with 15 pts / 6 rb / 6p, and a big role in the good season of K. Walker.

You can go read Hornet's forum on realgm, they are all prepared to a 100M/5yrs max offer from their FO this summer.

They're will be a huge load of money available this summer, and a few good player to spend it on.

Batum for 10M or less this summer is an absolute joke !

rastaspur
04-19-2016, 02:11 PM
This year, batum is the 1st/2nd option in the hornet's team, who finish tie to the 3rd place in the east (and play without MKG all year), with 15 pts / 6 rb / 6p, and a big role in the good season of K. Walker.

You can go read Hornet's forum on realgm, they are all prepared to a 100M/5yrs max offer from their FO this summer.

They're will be a huge load of money available this summer, and a few good player to spend it on.

Batum for 10M or less this summer is an absolute joke !

I think batum could command a 12 to 15 million a year contract. If demare carol got that last year then why shouldn't batum this year. Batum 》carroll.

Proxy
04-19-2016, 03:47 PM
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:reading

!!!

Dre_7
04-19-2016, 03:56 PM
Parker has taken less than he was worth for almost his entire career. He deserves what he is making now. And with the cap going up, it really isnt going to hurt the Spurs. I mean, they already have Kawhi and LMA locked down.

elemento
04-19-2016, 04:16 PM
I used to like sham for salaries, but he is not updating it anymore.

I use this one now :

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/san-antonio-spurs-team-salary/

GSH
04-19-2016, 04:42 PM
There's no chance Batum will get $10m per on a $92 mil cap. There will be $1.2 billion in available cap space in the summer with a cap floor at about $81 mil and as many as 20 potential max slots. Batum and others will get paid outrageous money.


Damn, I hadn't seen it aggregated. I'd love to know how many roster spots, across the league, aren't under contract.

BG_Spurs_Fan
04-20-2016, 12:42 AM
Damn, I hadn't seen it aggregated. I'd love to know how many roster spots, across the league, aren't under contract.

Less than half roster spots are under contract, though not sure if that's counting the players with options, who are clearly going to decline them and become FAs.