Crime rates reach historic lows in Texas, remain low nationally

[Winehole23]

Urban crime rates are at historic lows across the country, and in Texas they are still dropping, according to an analysis of crime rates in the 30 largest U.S cities.



Between 2014 and 2015, the five largest cities in Texas saw an average drop of 6.5 percent in the overall crime rate per 100,000 residents, according to the analysis by the Brennan Center for Justice (https://www.brennancenter.org/analysis/crime-2015-final-analysis) at New York University School of Law. Among the nation’s top cities, crime rates remained stagnant during this time, dropping by only 0.1 percent.

https://www.texastribune.org/2016/04/22/crime-rates-fall-texas-cities/

[Winehole23]

In the 30 largest cities in the country overall, the report found, the rate of violent crimes rose by 3 percent and the murder rate grew by 13 percent. In Texas, violent crime remained steady and the murder rate decreased more than 1 percent.



The national increase in murders was attributed mainly to rises in Baltimore, Chicago and Washington, D.C.



“These serious increases seem to be localized, rather than part of a national pandemic, suggesting that community conditions remain the major factor,” the report states.

[Trill Clinton]

but but but chicago!!:cry

[DarrinS]

but but but chicago!!:cry

Chiraq

[TheSanityAnnex]

"national increase in murders was attributed mainly to rises in Baltimore, Chicago and Washington, D.C."

Asked for less policing, got less policing

[Pelicans78]

"national increase in murders was attributed mainly to rises in Baltimore, Chicago and Washington, D.C."

Asked for less policing, got less policing

These are democratic/liberal run urban cities, similar to New Orleans. Things don't seem to work out well in these types of cities.

[SnakeBoy]

but but but chicago!!:cry

but but but gun control

[TheSanityAnnex]

From 2010 through 2012, the annual rate of homicide deaths among non-Hispanic white Americans was 2.5 per 100,000 persons, meaning that about one in every 40,000 white Americans is a homicide victim each year. By comparison, the rate of homicide deaths among non-Hispanic black Americans is 19.4 per 100,000 persons, or about 1 in 5,000 people per year.


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Tarsha Moseley, left, Martha Watson and Toby Smith pray Thursday at a makeshift memorial near the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston, South Carolina.
ALEX SANZ / AP
JUN 18, 2015 AT 5:33 PM
Black Americans Are Killed At 12 Times The Rate Of People In Other Developed Countries


By Nate Silver (http://fivethirtyeight.com/contributors/nate-silver/)
Filed under Charleston (http://fivethirtyeight.com/tag/charleston/)






“We as a country will have to reckon with the fact that this type of mass violence does not happen in other advanced countries,” President Obama said (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2015/06/18/full-text-obamas-remarks-on-fatal-shooting-in-charleston-s-c/) earlier today, in reaction to the killing of nine people (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/19/us/charleston-church-shooting.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=span-ab-top-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0) at a historically black church in Charleston, South Carolina, on Wednesday. The details of the case, including the motivations of the suspect, Dylann Roof, are still unfolding. (We encourage you to read coverage broadly, including from our colleagues at ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/US/police-release-photos-south-carolina-church-shooting-suspect/story?id=31851054).) But I wanted to add just a little bit of context to Obama’s remarks — how the U.S. compares to other countries overall, and how that comparison obscures a wide racial divide: Black Americans are far more likely to be homicide victims than white Americans.
We’re looking for good data on the incidence of mass shootings in different countries. There doesn’t appear to be all that much of it. But mass shootings represent a tiny fraction of homicides overall (http://mic.com/articles/22774/mass-shootings-are-responsible-for-less-than-100-out-of-12-000-annual-homicides-in-the-us). And thanks to recent efforts by the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC), which published data (https://www.unodc.org/documents/gsh/pdfs/2014_GLOBAL_HOMICIDE_BOOK_web.pdf) on homicide rates for almost every country, we can compare the overall homicide death rate in the U.S. to those elsewhere.
According to the CDC’s WONDER database (http://wonder.cdc.gov/mcd.html), 5.2 out of every 100,000 Americans were homicide victims, on average, from 2010 to 2012. That’s not especially high by global standards; the median country had 4.7 homicide deaths per 100,000 persons over the same period,1 (http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/black-americans-are-killed-at-12-times-the-rate-of-people-in-other-developed-countries/#fn-1)according to the UNODC data. The highest homicide rate in the world was in Honduras, with 87.9 homicide deaths per 100,000 persons.
But the homicide death rate in the U.S. — as Obama intimated — is more unusual in comparison with other highly developed countries. In the chart below, I’ve compared each country’s rate of homicide deaths against its Human Development Index (http://hdr.undp.org/en/content/human-development-index-hdi) (HDI), an overall measure of welfare and the standard of living.2 (http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/black-americans-are-killed-at-12-times-the-rate-of-people-in-other-developed-countries/#fn-2)
https://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/silver-datalab-unhomicide-1.png?w=575&h=512
Whether the U.S.’s homicide rate qualifies as an outlier depends on exactly where you set the cutoff for an “advanced” country. Among countries with an HDI of .850 or higher — these are the 31 most well-off countries in the world — the U.S.’s rate of homicide deaths, 5.2 per 100,000 persons, is easily the highest. The next-highest are Brunei (2.0), Finland (2.0) and Israel (1.9). And the U.S. homicide death rate is more than three times higher than neighboring Canada (1.5).
The U.N., however, sets a slightly lower threshold for a developed country, describing all countries with an HDI of .800 or higher as having “very high human development.” Several countries with an HDI between .800 and .850 have a homicide death rate comparable to the U.S., including Lithuania (6.9), Argentina (5.5), Estonia (5.2), Cuba (4.2) and Latvia (3.8). The U.S.’s homicide death rate is also much lower than Mexico’s (22.0), though Mexico’s HDI is just .755.
But these comparisons neglect a massively important fact, and one that is especially pertinent in the wake of the Charleston shootings.
Extending on an analysis (http://kieranhealy.org/blog/archives/2012/07/21/assault-deaths-within-the-united-states/) by the academic Kieran Healy, I calculated the rate of U.S. homicide deaths by racial group, based on the CDC WONDER data.3 (http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/black-americans-are-killed-at-12-times-the-rate-of-people-in-other-developed-countries/#fn-3) From 2010 through 2012, the annual rate of homicide deaths among non-Hispanic white Americans was 2.5 per 100,000 persons, meaning that about one in every 40,000 white Americans is a homicide victim each year. By comparison, the rate of homicide deaths among non-Hispanic black Americans is 19.4 per 100,000 persons, or about 1 in 5,000 people per year.
Black Americans are almost eight times as likely as white ones to be homicide victims, in other words.
So for white Americans, the homicide death rate is not so much of an outlier. It’s only modestly higher than in Finland, Belgium or Greece, for instance, and lower than in Chile or Latvia.
https://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/silver-datalab-unhomicide-2.png?w=575&h=1294
But there’s no other highly industrialized country with a homicide death rate similar to the one black Americans experience. Their homicide death rate, 19.4 per 100,000 persons, is about 12 times higher than the average rate among all people4 (http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/black-americans-are-killed-at-12-times-the-rate-of-people-in-other-developed-countries/#fn-4) in other developed countries.
Instead, you’d have to look toward developing countries such as Mexico (22.0), Brazil (23.6), Nigeria (20.0), Rwanda (23.1) or Myanmar (15.2) to find a comparable rate

[Spurminator]

These are democratic/liberal run urban cities, similar to New Orleans. Things don't seem to work out well in these types of cities.

What specific policies do you believe result in things not working out well?

[TheSanityAnnex]

What specific policies do you believe result in things not working out well?
Is it more policies or demographics?

[CosmicCowboy]

Brazen fuckers just hit me again. Alarm worked fine and called me and the police. They smashed the keypad and kept working at stripping my trucks. I guess all the police were busy on Fiesta stuff so I got there first. Looks like at least 10K of stuff is missing. Fucking thieves.

[Spurminator]

Is it more policies or demographics?

Sounds like you have an opinion on it, do tell.

[boutons_deux]

Brazen fuckers just hit me again. Alarm worked fine and called me and the police. They smashed the keypad and kept working at stripping my trucks. I guess all the police were busy on Fiesta stuff so I got there first. Looks like at least 10K of stuff is missing. Fucking thieves.

those white boys are persistent.

Do you have cameras?

[TheSanityAnnex]

Sounds like you have an opinion on it, do tell.
Africans are more prone to violence, and not just in the US. So is it policies worldwide or demographics?

[baseline bum]

Brazen fuckers just hit me again. Alarm worked fine and called me and the police. They smashed the keypad and kept working at stripping my trucks. I guess all the police were busy on Fiesta stuff so I got there first. Looks like at least 10K of stuff is missing. Fucking thieves.

Police are fucking useless when you get broken into, part of why I'd have no problem emptying a clip into someone breaking into my house.

[Spurminator]

Africans are more prone to violence, and not just in the US. So is it policies worldwide or demographics?

I don't know if it's policies, that's why I asked. You should elaborate on this genetic African violence theory though.

[Winehole23]

TSA'll probably ignore you. Loves to speak authoritatively, hates posting his source material.

[boutons_deux]

Between 1992 and 1999, in Harris County, Texas, where Buck was tried and sentenced, the district attorney’s office was three and a half times more likely to seek the death penalty against black defendants than white defendants, and juries were more than twice as likely to impose death sentences on blacks, according to a study (http://www.prosecutorialaccountability.com/2013/03/15/tx-study-finds-harris-county-prosecutors-sought-death-penalty-3-4-times-more-often-against-defendants-of-color/) by criminologists.

Since 2004, all but three of eighteen defendants sentenced to death in Harris County have been African-American.

As the Buck petition says, the Supreme Court should review the case “to maintain public confidence that courts will not permit

an execution tainted by ‘expert’ testimony explicitly linking race to dangerousness.”

That’s especially so when ineffective counsel was responsible for that unconstitutional connection.

http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/racial-discrimination-and-capital-punishment-the-indefensible-death-sentence-of-duane-buck?mbid=social_facebook

Houston, like all of East Texas is Deep South.

[Winehole23]

"national increase in murders was attributed mainly to rises in Baltimore, Chicago and Washington, D.C."

Asked for less policing, got less policingyou left out the very next sentence, which contextualizes the increases: "However, in absolute terms, murder rates are so low that a small numerical increase can lead to a large percentage change"

[Winehole23]

TSA: never at pains not to mislead.

[TheSanityAnnex]

I don't know if it's policies, that's why I asked. You should elaborate on this genetic African violence theory though.

http://static.visionofhumanity.org/sites/default/files/Global%20Peace%20Index%20Report%202015_0.pdf

[TheSanityAnnex]

you left out the very next sentence, which contextualizes the increases: "However, in absolute terms, murder rates are so low that a small numerical increase can lead to a large percentage change"

Had nothing to do with my comment of asking for and receiving less policing.

[Spurminator]

http://static.visionofhumanity.org/sites/default/files/Global%20Peace%20Index%20Report%202015_0.pdf

I skimmed the executive summary and didn't see anything about African heritage being a determinant of violent tendencies worldwide. Want to point out the specific relevant findings for us so we don't have to look through 99 pages of what seems to be a report on violence by region, not by race?

[TheSanityAnnex]

I skimmed the executive summary and didn't see anything about African heritage being a determinant of violent tendencies worldwide. Want to point out the specific relevant findings for us so we don't have to look through 99 pages of what seems to be a report on violence by region, not by race?

Many regions are dominated by race.

[TheSanityAnnex]

From 2010 through 2012, the annual rate of homicide deaths among non-Hispanic white Americans was 2.5 per 100,000 persons, meaning that about one in every 40,000 white Americans is a homicide victim each year. By comparison, the rate of homicide deaths among non-Hispanic black Americans is 19.4 per 100,000 persons, or about 1 in 5,000 people per year.


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Tarsha Moseley, left, Martha Watson and Toby Smith pray Thursday at a makeshift memorial near the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston, South Carolina.
ALEX SANZ / AP
JUN 18, 2015 AT 5:33 PM
Black Americans Are Killed At 12 Times The Rate Of People In Other Developed Countries


By Nate Silver (http://fivethirtyeight.com/contributors/nate-silver/)
Filed under Charleston (http://fivethirtyeight.com/tag/charleston/)






“We as a country will have to reckon with the fact that this type of mass violence does not happen in other advanced countries,” President Obama said (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2015/06/18/full-text-obamas-remarks-on-fatal-shooting-in-charleston-s-c/) earlier today, in reaction to the killing of nine people (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/19/us/charleston-church-shooting.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=span-ab-top-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0) at a historically black church in Charleston, South Carolina, on Wednesday. The details of the case, including the motivations of the suspect, Dylann Roof, are still unfolding. (We encourage you to read coverage broadly, including from our colleagues at ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/US/police-release-photos-south-carolina-church-shooting-suspect/story?id=31851054).) But I wanted to add just a little bit of context to Obama’s remarks — how the U.S. compares to other countries overall, and how that comparison obscures a wide racial divide: Black Americans are far more likely to be homicide victims than white Americans.
We’re looking for good data on the incidence of mass shootings in different countries. There doesn’t appear to be all that much of it. But mass shootings represent a tiny fraction of homicides overall (http://mic.com/articles/22774/mass-shootings-are-responsible-for-less-than-100-out-of-12-000-annual-homicides-in-the-us). And thanks to recent efforts by the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC), which published data (https://www.unodc.org/documents/gsh/pdfs/2014_GLOBAL_HOMICIDE_BOOK_web.pdf) on homicide rates for almost every country, we can compare the overall homicide death rate in the U.S. to those elsewhere.
According to the CDC’s WONDER database (http://wonder.cdc.gov/mcd.html), 5.2 out of every 100,000 Americans were homicide victims, on average, from 2010 to 2012. That’s not especially high by global standards; the median country had 4.7 homicide deaths per 100,000 persons over the same period,1 (http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/black-americans-are-killed-at-12-times-the-rate-of-people-in-other-developed-countries/#fn-1)according to the UNODC data. The highest homicide rate in the world was in Honduras, with 87.9 homicide deaths per 100,000 persons.
But the homicide death rate in the U.S. — as Obama intimated — is more unusual in comparison with other highly developed countries. In the chart below, I’ve compared each country’s rate of homicide deaths against its Human Development Index (http://hdr.undp.org/en/content/human-development-index-hdi) (HDI), an overall measure of welfare and the standard of living.2 (http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/black-americans-are-killed-at-12-times-the-rate-of-people-in-other-developed-countries/#fn-2)
https://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/silver-datalab-unhomicide-1.png?w=575&h=512
Whether the U.S.’s homicide rate qualifies as an outlier depends on exactly where you set the cutoff for an “advanced” country. Among countries with an HDI of .850 or higher — these are the 31 most well-off countries in the world — the U.S.’s rate of homicide deaths, 5.2 per 100,000 persons, is easily the highest. The next-highest are Brunei (2.0), Finland (2.0) and Israel (1.9). And the U.S. homicide death rate is more than three times higher than neighboring Canada (1.5).
The U.N., however, sets a slightly lower threshold for a developed country, describing all countries with an HDI of .800 or higher as having “very high human development.” Several countries with an HDI between .800 and .850 have a homicide death rate comparable to the U.S., including Lithuania (6.9), Argentina (5.5), Estonia (5.2), Cuba (4.2) and Latvia (3.8). The U.S.’s homicide death rate is also much lower than Mexico’s (22.0), though Mexico’s HDI is just .755.
But these comparisons neglect a massively important fact, and one that is especially pertinent in the wake of the Charleston shootings.
Extending on an analysis (http://kieranhealy.org/blog/archives/2012/07/21/assault-deaths-within-the-united-states/) by the academic Kieran Healy, I calculated the rate of U.S. homicide deaths by racial group, based on the CDC WONDER data.3 (http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/black-americans-are-killed-at-12-times-the-rate-of-people-in-other-developed-countries/#fn-3) From 2010 through 2012, the annual rate of homicide deaths among non-Hispanic white Americans was 2.5 per 100,000 persons, meaning that about one in every 40,000 white Americans is a homicide victim each year. By comparison, the rate of homicide deaths among non-Hispanic black Americans is 19.4 per 100,000 persons, or about 1 in 5,000 people per year.
Black Americans are almost eight times as likely as white ones to be homicide victims, in other words.
So for white Americans, the homicide death
https://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/silver-datalab-unhomicide-2.png?w=575&h=1294
But there’s no other highly industrialized country with a homicide death rate similar to the one black Americans experience. Their homicide death rate, 19.4 per 100,000 persons, is about 12 times higher than the average rate among all people4 (http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/black-americans-are-killed-at-12-times-the-rate-of-people-in-other-developed-countries/#fn-4) in other developed countries.
Instead, you’d have to look toward developing countries such as Mexico (22.0), Brazil (23.6), Nigeria (20.0), Rwanda (23.1) or Myanmar (15.2) to find a comparable rate






Spurm---what's your explanation for what we are seeing in the United States? There are more poor whites on welfare than blacks. Why the extreme difference in homicide rates? More policies or cultural?

[Dirk Oneanddoneski]

The problem with white crime stats is who gets counted as white

http://i.imgur.com/NvNJTX6.jpg

[Winehole23]

:crywhy is Florida lying about white crime?

[TheSanityAnnex]

:crywhy is Florida lying about white crime?

Winehole23---what's your explanation for what we are seeing in the United States? There are more poor whites on welfare than blacks. Why the extreme difference in homicide rates? More policies or cultural?

[TheSanityAnnex]

And save the 5 posts in a row talking to yourself. I'm logging off and will be back later.

[boutons_deux]

Why the extreme difference in homicide rates? More policies or cultural?

racism in govt and private policies, in judicial proceeding, in policing, in schooling, etc, etc.

eg, a recent project tried to rent AirBnB accommodations with "white" names or "black" names. The white names were much more successful than black names.

racism is stressful, anger-producing, humiliating, discouraging, etc for the victims, which produces to a "nurture" (culture) disaster, doe not prove a "nature" (genetic) inclination.

your rightwingnut racism is: "after 400 years of slavery, lynchings, oppression, racism, poverty, look these black animals, genetically programmed to be dangerous, violent", while ignoring the Ms of refugees and dead produced by white Christian USA's bullshit imperial wars. So why aren't white Christians "genetically dangerous"?

But we all appreciate your extreme hate and prejudice, typical check-box rightwingnut fool, in pushing the idea of "genetically inferior, violent" blacks, as simplistic as it is ignorantly wrong.

[CosmicCowboy]

racism in govt and private policies, in judicial proceeding, in policing, in schooling, etc, etc.

eg, a recent project tried to rent AirBnB accommodations with "white" names or "black" names. The white names were much more successful than black names.

racism is stressful, anger-producing, humiliating, discouraging, etc for the victims, which produces to a "nurture" (culture) disaster, doe not prove a "nature" (genetic) inclination.

your rightwingnut racism is: "after 400 years of slavery, lynchings, oppression, racism, poverty, look these black animals, genetically programmed to be dangerous, violent", while ignoring the Ms of refugees and dead produced by white Christian USA's bullshit imperial wars. So why aren't white Christians "genetically dangerous"?

But we all appreciate your extreme hate and prejudice, typical check-box rightwingnut fool, in pushing the idea of "genetically inferior, violent" blacks, as simplistic as it is ignorantly wrong.

Blacks aren't violently resisting racism, dumbass. They are shooting each other.

[boutons_deux]

Blacks aren't violently resisting racism, dumbass. They are shooting each other.

I didn't say they were. All of what I wrote applies to a small percentage of blacks resorting to crime knowing its the only way they see to get money, power.

btw, nearly all white murders are white-on-white

[Winehole23]

Winehole23---what's your explanation for what we are seeing in the United States? There are more poor whites on welfare than blacks. Why the extreme difference in homicide rates? More policies or cultural?More cultural than political, but probably both. There's no pat answer for mass phenomena -- they are typically overdetermined.

Poverty, institutional racism and internalized racism are tough hurdles to clear.

[TheSanityAnnex]

racism in govt and private policies, in judicial proceeding, in policing, in schooling, etc, etc.

eg, a recent project tried to rent AirBnB accommodations with "white" names or "black" names. The white names were much more successful than black names.

racism is stressful, anger-producing, humiliating, discouraging, etc for the victims, which produces to a "nurture" (culture) disaster, doe not prove a "nature" (genetic) inclination.

your rightwingnut racism is: "after 400 years of slavery, lynchings, oppression, racism, poverty, look these black animals, genetically programmed to be dangerous, violent", while ignoring the Ms of refugees and dead produced by white Christian USA's bullshit imperial wars. So why aren't white Christians "genetically dangerous"?

But we all appreciate your extreme hate and prejudice, typical check-box rightwingnut fool, in pushing the idea of "genetically inferior, violent" blacks, as simplistic as it is ignorantly wrong.

What's your excuse for blacks in Toronto or London who's families never experienced 400 years of slavery?

[CosmicCowboy]

Or blacks in Africa killing each other by the thousands? The Hutu's are about to start their purge of Tutsi's again.

[boutons_deux]

whites killed themselves in Europe for 1000s of year. What's your excuse for those whites? White wars are OK, but black murder isn't excusable?

[CosmicCowboy]

whites killed themselves in Europe for 1000s of year. What's your excuse for those whites? White wars are OK, but black murder isn't excusable?

It's a little different than two armies squaring off.

800,000 civilians chopped up with machetes in a few months is more than a little excessive.

[boutons_deux]

It's a little different than two armies squaring off.

800,000 civilians chopped up with machetes in a few months is more than a little excessive.

yep, just as I thought, white states warring with white states, or Christian white states or Asian states (USSR, Germany, China, Indonesia, Khmer Rouge) slaughtering 10Ms is "different" (better) than black tribes, ethnic groups slaughter each other (while white nations watched passively). Black people are genetically prone to murder, but not whites. Got it, great clarification.

[TheSanityAnnex]

whites killed themselves in Europe for 1000s of year. What's your excuse for those whites? White wars are OK, but black murder isn't excusable?

Those whites figured out their shit and became civilized.

[Spurminator]

Spurm---what's your explanation for what we are seeing in the United States? There are more poor whites on welfare than blacks. Why the extreme difference in homicide rates? More policies or cultural?

Plenty of possible causes worth exploring. Black welfare recipients are highly concentrated in cities, where the poverty experience is vastly different from being on welfare in the country. The front lines of illegal drug trade in cities tend to be made up of black men, so turf wars over drugs are going to be fought by black men. Their blackness is no more a root cause of their violence than early 20th century mob wars were a result of Italians' inherent violence.

[Winehole23]

The Hutu's are about to start their purge of Tutsi's again.because they're black, right?

genetic predisposition to slaughter?

[Blake]

because they're black, right?

genetic predisposition to slaughter?

Yes! It's only civilized if both sides have armies!

[Winehole23]

http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2016/11/16143341/FT_16.11.16_crime_by_support.png (http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/11/16/voters-perceptions-of-crime-continue-to-conflict-with-reality/ft_16-11-16_crime_by_support/)

[Winehole23]

http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2018/01/31162534/FT_16.11.16_crime_trend.png (http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/11/16/voters-perceptions-of-crime-continue-to-conflict-with-reality/ft_16-11-16_crime_trend-2/)

[Winehole23]

1017811603083886593

[Spurtacular]

https://www.texastribune.org/2016/04/22/crime-rates-fall-texas-cities/

Even as "hate crimes" were spiking?

:lmao libtards

[Pavlov]

Even as "hate crimes" were spiking?

:lmao libtardsHate crimes did rise.

Are you trying to deny this?

:lmao derp

[Winehole23]

fwiw, my opposition to hate crimes legislation has been repeatedly stated in this forum.

for starters, hate crimes are overkill. the underlying conduct is usually illegal.

when it's not, hate crime prosecution usually abridges speech.


e.g., https://theappeal.org/a-black-man-called-the-cops-nazis-and-was-charged-with-a-hate-crime/

[Winehole23]

Even as "hate crimes" were spiking?I don't doubt what you're saying, but can you give us any idea of how many prosecutions we're talking about here?

I seriously doubt the caseload is big enough to move the needle. nationally or even statewide.