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whitemamba
04-25-2016, 02:56 PM
of coat-tailing of course, I mean I have never seen a quote on quote GOAT take this many back seats. When was the last time Duncan was actually relevant, when was he even a top 5 option?

Kiwi
LaSoftus
MVParker
Rogainobli
Mills

then id put duncan tbh,

K...
04-25-2016, 03:15 PM
Duncan 4, shaq 3, LeBron 2, Dirk 1, Kobe substantial contributions towards 5 (effectively 0)

Mitch
04-25-2016, 03:57 PM
Kobe 6 ( NBA + wedding ring )
Duncan 5

whitemamba
04-25-2016, 04:16 PM
Kobe 6 ( NBA + wedding ring )
Duncan 5

waiting for spin tbh...

DMC
04-25-2016, 04:38 PM
of coat-tailing of course, I mean I have never seen a quote on quote GOAT take this many back seats. When was the last time Duncan was actually relevant, when was he even a top 5 option?

Kiwi
LaSoftus
MVParker
Rogainobli
Mills

then id put duncan tbh,
He's relevant now else you wouldn't be starting threads about him. I didn't see you start one about how irrelevant Matt Bonner or Boban are.

ambchang
04-25-2016, 05:52 PM
That's like fans of Sean Penn saying Tom hanks is a wife abuser.

Koolaid_Man
04-25-2016, 05:53 PM
GOAT = Gayest Of All Time

:lol

Arcadian
04-25-2016, 05:58 PM
He was the best Spur in 2013, and we only lost when he wasn't on the floor in game 6.


https://youtu.be/iviKH8dnNY4

He was in close-out mode in that game, as he always has been throughout his career. Duncan was a FAR more clutch player than Kobe, and only mainstream casual fans would think otherwise.

whitemamba
04-25-2016, 06:05 PM
He's relevant now else you wouldn't be starting threads about him. I didn't see you start one about how irrelevant Matt Bonner or Boban are.
wrong dmc, hes relevant because he sucks.


He was the best Spur in 2013, and we only lost when he wasn't on the floor in game 6.


https://youtu.be/iviKH8dnNY4

He was in close-out mode in that game, as he always has been throughout his career. Duncan was a FAR more clutch player than Kobe, and only mainstream casual fans would think otherwise.

:lol holy shit

nowitzkikopf
04-25-2016, 06:12 PM
Kobe 6 ( NBA + wedding ring )
Duncan 5

ROFL @ the permeation of lakers fans with shit takes and a duncan inferiority complex on this website

Arcadian
04-25-2016, 06:13 PM
Player FG FGA FG% 3PM 3PA 3P% Ast'd %Ast'd Best Worst
Duncan 376 0818 0.460 2 20 0.100 156 0.415 55% 36%
LeBron 461 1003 0.460 93 297 0.313 117 0.254 55% 37%
Nash 370 0806 0.459 125 314 0.398 65 0.176 56% 35%
Terry 381 0870 0.438 108 285 0.379 164 0.430 55% 33%
KG 368 0848 0.434 8 36 0.222 212 0.576 65% 33%
Dirk 443 1036 0.428 75 229 0.328 206 0.465 48% 37%
Melo 276 0655 0.421 31 111 0.279 140 0.507 52% 38%
Wade 321 0774 0.415 30 124 0.242 59 0.184 47% 32%
R.Allen 371 0916 0.405 160 450 0.356 192 0.518 48% 34%
Vince 401 1001 0.401 67 217 0.309 159 0.397 50% 36%
A.Miller 269 0678 0.397 19 82 0.232 64 0.238 47% 26%
Kobe 606 1525 0.397 99 351 0.282 148 0.244 46% 32%


Sorry for crappy formatting, but this table shows "clutch shooting stats" since 2000. Duncan and Lebron are tied for 1st in FG%, while Kobe is 12th among players analyzed.

Source: http://www.libertyballers.com/2012/2/29/2832299/lebron-james-kobe-bryant-dwyane-wade-clutch-nba-playoffs-4th-quarter

LkrFan
04-25-2016, 06:16 PM
:lol at him coming out det game 6, with the Spurs needing only one rebound to seal the deal. :lmao

Arcadian
04-25-2016, 06:17 PM
^That's on Pop, though

whitemamba
04-25-2016, 06:35 PM
Player FG FGA FG% 3PM 3PA 3P% Ast'd %Ast'd Best Worst
Duncan 376 0818 0.460 2 20 0.100 156 0.415 55% 36%
LeBron 461 1003 0.460 93 297 0.313 117 0.254 55% 37%
Nash 370 0806 0.459 125 314 0.398 65 0.176 56% 35%
Terry 381 0870 0.438 108 285 0.379 164 0.430 55% 33%
KG 368 0848 0.434 8 36 0.222 212 0.576 65% 33%
Dirk 443 1036 0.428 75 229 0.328 206 0.465 48% 37%
Melo 276 0655 0.421 31 111 0.279 140 0.507 52% 38%
Wade 321 0774 0.415 30 124 0.242 59 0.184 47% 32%
R.Allen 371 0916 0.405 160 450 0.356 192 0.518 48% 34%
Vince 401 1001 0.401 67 217 0.309 159 0.397 50% 36%
A.Miller 269 0678 0.397 19 82 0.232 64 0.238 47% 26%
Kobe 606 1525 0.397 99 351 0.282 148 0.244 46% 32%


Sorry for crappy formatting, but this table shows "clutch shooting stats" since 2000. Duncan and Lebron are tied for 1st in FG%, while Kobe is 12th among players analyzed.

Source: http://www.libertyballers.com/2012/2/29/2832299/lebron-james-kobe-bryant-dwyane-wade-clutch-nba-playoffs-4th-quarter

Comparing a jump shooting Gaurds FG% to a Center/PF or someone like lebron whos entire game is going to the rim, is a hilarious comparison. Even if duncan was prime right now, he would be shit out of luck because his position now can run, jump, shoot (from anywhere) , steal, and block. Duncan is a solid solid PF, but only if hes paired with guys like David Rob, or MVParker. or Kawhi, or Lamarcus, the list goes on.

K...
04-25-2016, 06:47 PM
Comparing a jump shooting Gaurds FG% to a Center/PF or someone like lebron whos entire game is going to the rim, is a hilarious comparison. Even if duncan was prime right now, he would be shit out of luck because his position now can run, jump, shoot (from anywhere) , steal, and block. Duncan is a solid solid PF, but only if hes paired with guys like David Rob, or MVParker. or Kawhi, or Lamarcus, the list goes on.

so your point is that kobe was only a contender with a dominating front court means his 12 rank is suspect? Yeah that was pretty apparent.

DarrinS
04-25-2016, 06:50 PM
Lol, life after Kobe

DarrinS
04-25-2016, 06:54 PM
Lol, dysfunctional franchise

Chris
04-25-2016, 06:57 PM
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http://i67.tinypic.com/91fghi.gif

Arcadian
04-25-2016, 07:39 PM
Comparing a jump shooting Gaurds FG% to a Center/PF or someone like lebron whos entire game is going to the rim, is a hilarious comparison. Even if duncan was prime right now, he would be shit out of luck because his position now can run, jump, shoot (from anywhere) , steal, and block. Duncan is a solid solid PF, but only if hes paired with guys like David Rob, or MVParker. or Kawhi, or Lamarcus, the list goes on.

Why does position matter? Those stats are from the final minutes of 4Q and OT. If Kobe's best quality is his "killer instinct," he should make most of his shots at the end of games. Yet he actually misses more than Duncan and others by a significant percentage.

Besides, that's his fault for being a jump-shooting player. If posting up or driving to the basket are better ways of scoring, then he should do those things more.

Duncan uplifted and carried those players you listed, not the other way around (up until 2013, when he was 37 years old).

Otaku
04-25-2016, 08:30 PM
When was the last time kobe made it to the playoffs?

Splits
04-25-2016, 09:15 PM
When was the last time kobe made it to the playoffs?

When he was 33 years young :lol

DMC
04-26-2016, 12:24 AM
wrong dmc, hes relevant because he sucks.

That doesn't make any sense. Bonner sucks too.

TD in what is likely his last season, gets a franchise best 67 wins, matches NBA record for home wins, could win an NBA championship.

Meanwhile, Kobe sets franchise record for losses, worst home record in franchise history and gets his coach, former Lakers showtime player Byron Scott fired in the process, and most likely is in Sri Lanka.

whitemamba
04-26-2016, 10:13 AM
That doesn't make any sense. Bonner sucks too.

TD in what is likely his last season, gets a franchise best 67 wins, matches NBA record for home wins, could win an NBA championship.

Meanwhile, Kobe sets franchise record for losses, worst home record in franchise history and gets his coach, former Lakers showtime player Byron Scott fired in the process, and most likely is in Sri Lanka.

I know your salty because u keep bringing up Kobe. Stats tell a different story to what Duncan contributed, especially playoff time.