Zach Lowe "Durant to Spurs buzz is ascendant around the league"

[dbreiden83080]

No thanks.. You guys really want a rival like that on the team? I thought this was now KL's team..

[TD 21]

Probably a few paranoid executives, who think that because of Aldridge, this now means the Spurs are a legit contender for any significant unrestricted free agent. In reality, the planets aligned on that one. Suffice it to say, they don't on this one.

His decision could depend on how this series and the remainder of the playoffs play out. If they lose a close, hard fought 6 or 7 game series to the Spurs and the Spurs go on to do the same against the Warriors or vice versa, I think he'll feel like they're close and re-sign (with an opt out after 1 season, when the cap balloons again). But if this series turns into shades of Celtics-Cavs in '10, I could see him bolting to the Warriors now.

[TrainOfThought5]

If OKC wins series vs Spurs this year, Durant is not coming here. If Spurs win, we can start talking about such possibility

Spurs are gonna win in 5, and Kawhi is going to give him the most humble beatdown of his life.

[tholdren]

Spurs are gonna win in 5, and Kawhi is going to give him the most humble beatdown of his life.

This has to be a troll job by 90% of Spurstalk. Real Spurs fan would want KD almost as they would want James Harden.

[steeledl]

Blows my mind that that people on here are opposed to getting Durant.... If you have a shot to get a player of Durants caliber in his prime you fucking do it. 10 times out of 10. No questions asked. Come on man.

[Emperor]

If Kawhi agrees to it, and if Durant wants in, they will make it happen. We talking about a top 5 player and a highly possible beginning of a new dynasty.

[random21]

As I think more about the possibility, I can see him coming to SA.
1) As others have stated, Spurs have to beat down OKC first
2) Create a big 3 with kawhi, LMA.
3) If he could live in that shithole, meth filled, white trash filled city- then he can live in a boring city like SA...

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Do you know what acromegaly is and how it affects a body's durability? There's a reason why there aren't more 7-3 guys in the league now, and it's not because of them not being able to learn skills

You going to do more than handwave and beg the question?

[spurraider21]

Fallacy! Fallacy!

https://media.giphy.com/media/yoJC2t0BqEXx1J1aCY/giphy.gif

[CGD]

In the end it's all about Westbrook. KD just loves playing with him. I think they have a heart to heart this summer and if KD gets a commitment from Russ that he'll resign with OKC in 2017 then KD stays.

But if Russ hedges KD is in play. The 1+1 deal seems to make sense in theory, but as we saw last off season players were very risk adverse when presented the same situation. KD also has the foot injury history to factor into that analysis.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

For one, not everyone is the same. Boban looks like he has some form of gigantism which is hell on their bones. Jabbar seemed more comfortable in his size. Like I said, it looks painful when Boban runs. I would LOVE to be wrong though.

When I see Boban run I notice how he is outrunning the opponents bigs.

[dabom]

When I see Boban run I notice how he is outrunning the opponents bigs.

:hat

[hater]

Blows my mind that that people on here are opposed to getting Durant.... If you have a shot to get a player of Durants caliber in his prime you fucking do it. 10 times out of 10. No questions asked. Come on man.

:lmao fat ass spursfans

"ewww Durant. No thanks" :lol

[tholdren]

Blows my mind that that people on here are opposed to getting Durant.... If you have a shot to get a player of Durants caliber in his prime you fucking do it. 10 times out of 10. No questions asked. Come on man.

Then why not Westbrook or lebron

[cascaders]

if we're gonna get a superstar, would rather prefer lebron tbh. Easily better in all aspect, and we dont gotta worry about immaturity and unprofessionalism with him

[Arcadian]

It would be a weird big 3 to have 2 SFs and a PF. I guess Durant could play PF and Aldridge C.

[steeledl]

Then why not Westbrook or lebron


I wouldnt mind any of them either but Lebron has way more tread on his tires than KD and KD feels like a better fit than Westbrook personality wise. KD +Kawhi + LMA..... At least 5 more years of dominance pending injuries

[steeledl]

:lmao fat ass spursfans

"ewww Durant. No thanks" :lol


I mean maybe they aren't all fat but they either have stupid agendas or are just plain stupid.

[intlspurshk]

If there is any chance to sign KD, Spurs should just make it happen and worry about other things later. I highly doubt it is true though and Spurs beating Thunder is not guaranteed

[Dro210]

Blows my mind that that people on here are opposed to getting Durant.... If you have a shot to get a player of Durants caliber in his prime you fucking do it. 10 times out of 10. No questions asked. Come on man.

Severely underestimating the amount of faggots around here. :lol

Anybody who's not a complete idiot is salivating at the thought tho. We would be unbeatable when healthy.



It would be a weird big 3 to have 2 SFs and a PF. I guess Durant could play PF and Aldridge C.

I think Kawhi would slide to the 2 for the majority, he has the skill set to easily transition. He basically already plays the 2 on offense... Kawhi can play 2-4 and KD can too. I'd even say KD can play the 1 offensively for stretches if he has to. So it really doesn't make a difference. There'd be zero issues with playing them together imo. :toast

[Proxy]

I think Kawhi would slide to the 2 for the majority, he has the skill set to easily transition. He basically already plays the 2 on offense... Kawhi can play 2-4 and KD can too. I'd even say KD can play the 1 offensively for stretches if he has to. So it really doesn't make a difference. There'd be zero issues with playing them together imo. :toast

Was thinking KD would play the 2, KL and LA filling in at the 3 and 4. Pau at C per his bro's orders lol

[Keepin' it real]

In the end it's all about Westbrook. KD just loves playing with him. I think they have a heart to heart this summer and if KD gets a commitment from Russ that he'll resign with OKC in 2017 then KD stays.

RW is not even in his prime; why would he resign?

[dg7md]

Durant would win a title here. He wouldn't in LA or Washington.

[The Reckoning]

you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villian

[T Park]

Probably a few paranoid executives, who think that because of Aldridge, this now means the Spurs are a legit contender for any significant unrestricted free agent. In reality, the planets aligned on that one. Suffice it to say, they don't on this one.

His decision could depend on how this series and the remainder of the playoffs play out. If they lose a close, hard fought 6 or 7 game series to the Spurs and the Spurs go on to do the same against the Warriors or vice versa, I think he'll feel like they're close and re-sign (with an opt out after 1 season, when the cap balloons again). But if this series turns into shades of Celtics-Cavs in '10, I could see him bolting to the Warriors now.


Lmao fail

[jimbo]

You going to do more than handwave and beg the question?

you're as dumb as ever man

[lefty]

:lmao fat ass spursfans

"ewww Durant. No thanks" :lol

KD is too skinny for Spurms fans

[FuzzyLumpkins]

you're as dumb as ever man

:lol There is no basis for a diagnosis. If you want to pretend that comparisons to black athletes 'who look comfortable' and not much else is a valid basis for labeling Boban a medical risk then go right ahead. Gump was right.

[Mal]

This has to be a troll job by 90% of Spurstalk. Real Spurs fan would want KD almost as they would want James Harden.

Harden and his fellowmate Howard are antiSpur. No one would want them

[I. Hustle]

When I see Boban run I notice how he is outrunning the opponents bigs.

I also see how he moves around the paint after. If an opponent brings him out just a little bit forget, they are going to blow past him.

I like Boban and I hope I am wrong but I just don't see how the preseason, 82 games and our usual playoff runs are going to work with his body type.

[elemento]

Just trade Tony freaking Parker and get it done (sorry Brazil) :lol

If SA signs Durant, Parker becomes utter useless. SA would just need a G-Hill type of PG.

[hater]

Just trade Tony freaking Parker and get it done (sorry Brazil) :lol

If SA signs Durant, Parker becomes utter useless. SA would just need a G-Hill type of PG.

:lmao terrible take. A Durant parker tandem would be ruthless to the league

[cutewizard]

Just trade Tony freaking Parker and get it done (sorry Brazil) :lol

If SA signs Durant, Parker becomes utter useless. SA would just need a G-Hill type of PG.


Kyle Anderson says "hello"

[elemento]

:lmao terrible take. A Durant parker tandem would be ruthless to the league

You can hate all you want my fellow hater, but that's the truth :lol

[hater]

You can hate all you want my fellow hater, but that's the truth :lol

Why would Durant on a team make a HOF PG unnecessary???

[elemento]

Why would Durant on a team make a HOF PG unnecessary???

It would depend on which HOF PG we're talking about.

What could Parker offer at this point with 3 offensive forces in the roster?

D ? playmaking ? Shooting? You tell me.

10ppg/4apg/2rpg @ 41%TS and a PER of 8 this season and the last in the playoffs. HOF credentials not checking at this point of his career tbh

[TheDoctor]

If Kawhi agrees to it, and if Durant wants in, they will make it happen. We talking about a top 5 player and a highly possible beginning of a new dynasty.

Factual post tbh,

[hater]

It would depend on which HOF PG we're talking about.

What could Parker offer at this point with 3 offensive forces in the roster?

D ? playmaking ? Shooting? You tell me.

10ppg/4apg/2rpg @ 41%TS and a PER of 8 this season and the last in the playoffs. HOF credentials not checking at this point of his career tbh

Lol not knowing what a PG in basketball does....

[Darius McCrary]

you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villian

lol so corny

[spursistan]

725727560584335361

I think the rivalry element is legit in this whole saga, which is why I still think it is far fetched he would join us as of now or after another post-season tussle between these two....

[The Reckoning]

lol so corny

supposed to be, tbh

couldn't resist

[SAGirl]

Definitely Durant being public about his disdain for Kawhi makes this a very far fetched story, which is why I haven't really taken it seriously.

[TheGreatYacht]

Blows my mind that that people on here are opposed to getting Durant.... If you have a shot to get a player of Durants caliber in his prime you fucking do it. 10 times out of 10. No questions asked. Come on man.

:lmao fat ass spursfans

"ewww Durant. No thanks" :lol
Been telling y'all, Spursfan would rather bring in Bertans than an Allstar :lol Didnt wanna give up Shitter for Aldridge also

Yall seen the Lebron thread? Same shit.

:cry built not bought :cry fans smh

[elemento]

Lol not knowing what a PG in basketball does....

30ks of Eliancitos, Ferraris and still couldn't answer a simple question. I'm disappointed.

[cutewizard]

countdown to the Spurs vs Thunder!!!! yes! we got this!

[$pursDynasty]

Been telling y'all, Spursfan would rather bring in Bertans than an Allstar :lol Didnt wanna give up Shitter for Aldridge also

Yall seen the Lebron thread? Same shit.

:cry built not bought :cry fans smh
preach Yacht preach!!!
The only case where it wouldn't necessarily work is Westbrook (and Cousins), completely wrong mentality. However LBJ and KD would thrive here.

[TheGreatYacht]

preach Yacht preach!!!
The only case where it wouldn't necessarily work is Westbrook (and Cousins), completely wrong mentality. However LBJ and KD would thrive here.
It's what I do :tu

We landed a big name in free agency for once, and we end up with a franchise high in wins.. Who would've thought

[TheDoctor]

Been telling y'all, Spursfan would rather bring in Bertans than an Allstar :lol Didnt wanna give up Shitter for Aldridge also

Yall seen the Lebron thread? Same shit.

:cry built not bought :cry fans smh

This tbh.

They rather have Jeff Pendergraph to KD. "But but he says idiot in public and insulted Marc Cuban" "He's an enemy" :rollin

[TheGreatYacht]

This tbh.

They rather have Jeff Pendergraph to KD. "But but he says idiot in public and insulted Marc Cuban" "He's an enemy" :rollin
:lmao

"He's a fckn chucker!" ... Like that's a bad thing for a 50/40/90 player and 4x scoring champion :lol

[$pursDynasty]

Yacht, I can't tell how many of these 'fans' really believe this ish and how many are just trolling for the sake of trolling.

[TheGreatYacht]

Yacht, I can't tell how many of these 'fans' really believe this ish and how many are just trolling for the sake of trolling.
They are 100% serious, they'd rather have the ball move around 10 times just so Danny can brick a wide open three than give it to a superstar.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I also see how he moves around the paint after. If an opponent brings him out just a little bit forget, they are going to blow past him.

I like Boban and I hope I am wrong but I just don't see how the preseason, 82 games and our usual playoff runs are going to work with his body type.

Not every time and he has improved in this regard. What guards do more often is the step back now. He still intimidates a fair share of shots and as he adjusts to the speed of the NBA game he should continue to improve.

He consistently is beating opposing bigs down the floor. His stamina is very good as opposed to other big men we've had like Baynes.

He hasn't had injury. You inability to see something is besides the point of what happens in reality. If he got hurt then sure but you're trying to hard here to conjure that which isn't there.

[dabom]

Boban played like 38 minutes in Okc last 2 weeks ago.

[diego]

They are 100% serious, they'd rather have the ball move around 10 times just so Danny can brick a wide open three than give it to a superstar.

a superstar who has little to show beyond scoring titles, doesnt add anything to the cumulative skill set of the other two stars, has in recent years been hampered by recurring injury, regularly shows diva attitudes, regularly screws up in the clutch, for the new max salary-> that money can be better spent elsewhere, i've not read much of an argument for durant beyond his name and his ability to share the court with aldridge and leonard- sure he can share the court with them, that doesnt necesarily make it good nor better than another lineup (if it were possible, CP3 would be the ideal fit). while this team does need more scoring (both 3pt shooting and inside scoring), it has enough high usage jump shooters- more lacking are good penetration, playmaking, versatile guards in general for what should be obvious reasons- mills and green arent enough to replace manu and parker. Durant is not a playmaker, his ability to bring the ball up does not make him a point guard.

[Brazil]

Just trade Tony freaking Parker and get it done (sorry Brazil) :lol

If SA signs Durant, Parker becomes utter useless. SA would just need a G-Hill type of PG.

:lol except for Duncan there is no one that should be considered out of a trade scenario to land such kind of big name tbh... Don't be sorry, I'd be thrilled if trading Parker would mean land Durant... obviously sad for him. As he repeated over and over he wants to finish his career with San Antonio but he would understand tbh

[Dro210]

a superstar who has little to show beyond scoring titles, doesnt add anything to the cumulative skill set of the other two stars, has in recent years been hampered by recurring injury, regularly shows diva attitudes, regularly screws up in the clutch, for the new max salary-> that money can be better spent elsewhere, i've not read much of an argument for durant beyond his name and his ability to share the court with aldridge and leonard- sure he can share the court with them, that doesnt necesarily make it good nor better than another lineup (if it were possible, CP3 would be the ideal fit). while this team does need more scoring (both 3pt shooting and inside scoring), it has enough high usage jump shooters- more lacking are good penetration, playmaking, versatile guards in general for what should be obvious reasons- mills and green arent enough to replace manu and parker. Durant is not a playmaker, his ability to bring the ball up does not make him a point guard.

CP3?... Talk about an oft injured diva who's never accomplished anything...

Durant is way more than a volume jump shooter :lol, that's ridiculous. He's the best scorer in the world, been that for 5 years. He's actually a pretty good playmaker, you don't have to be a PG to be a playmaker :lol and he can get to the rim effectively. He's one of the most versitle players in the league tbh. And saying his presence doesn't help make the other players better is crazy. You wouldn't be able to double either of them, ever, with him on the floor. Ever.

The injuries are the only valid point imo... The type, and with his size, would have to give anybody at least little pause about giving him a fresh new max contract, even as good as he is. Everything else is stupid as fuck tho.

[elemento]

:lol except for Duncan there is no one that should be considered out of a trade scenario to land such kind of big name tbh... Don't be sorry, I'd be thrilled if trading Parker would mean land Durant... obviously sad for him. As he repeated over and over he wants to finish his career with San Antonio but he would understand tbh

:toast

[dabom]

CP3?... Talk about an oft injured diva who's never accomplished anything...

Durant is way more than a volume jump shooter :lol, that's ridiculous. He's the best scorer in the world, been that for 5 years. He's actually a pretty good playmaker, you don't have to be a PG to be a playmaker :lol and he can get to the rim effectively. He's one of the most versitle players in the league tbh. And saying his presence doesn't help make the other players better is crazy. You wouldn't be able to double either of them, ever, with him on the floor. Ever.

The injuries are the only valid point imo... The type, and with his size, would have to give anybody at least little pause about giving him a fresh new max contract, even as good as he is. Everything else is stupid as fuck tho.

I think the injuries where due to how they are forced to carry the team night in night out. They'd lose otherwise. He wouldn't need to score more than 20ppg here. You take him in a heartbeat.

[Dro210]

I think the injuries where due to how they are forced to carry the team night in night out. They'd lose otherwise. He wouldn't need to score more than 20ppg here. You take him in a heartbeat.

:tu For sure you do.... I'm all about makin this happen, trust.

[Brazil]

:toast

:bobo

[Aztecfan03]

Kyle Anderson says "hello"
The hell is wrong with you?

[dabom]

The hell is wrong with you?

Chill bro. Top 20 poster.

[tholdren]

CP3?... Talk about an oft injured diva who's never accomplished anything...

Durant is way more than a volume jump shooter :lol, that's ridiculous. He's the best scorer in the world, been that for 5 years. He's actually a pretty good playmaker, you don't have to be a PG to be a playmaker :lol and he can get to the rim effectively. He's one of the most versitle players in the league tbh. And saying his presence doesn't help make the other players better is crazy. You wouldn't be able to double either of them, ever, with him on the floor. Ever.

The injuries are the only valid point imo... The type, and with his size, would have to give anybody at least little pause about giving him a fresh new max contract, even as good as he is. Everything else is stupid as fuck tho.
not true

[Spurs 4 The Win]

I think the injuries where due to how they are forced to carry the team night in night out. They'd lose otherwise. He wouldn't need to score more than 20ppg here. You take him in a heartbeat.

Durant would be a monster in our system and whats even better is that Pop would make him into a two way player. We would be nearly unbeatable.

[dabom]

Durant would be a monster in our system and whats even better is that Pop would make him into a two way player. We would be nearly unbeatable.

Yeah dude. And Kawhi is the perfect superstar for anyother superstar. He doesn't need the ball in his hands on offense to make an impact.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

Yeah dude. And Kawhi is the perfect superstar for anyother superstar. He doesn't need the ball in his hands on offense to make an impact.

Exactly. Aldridge, Duncan, Kawhi, and Durant on the floor at once will rape any lineup in the league.

[TheDoctor]

a superstar who has little to show beyond scoring titles, doesnt add anything to the cumulative skill set of the other two stars, has in recent years been hampered by recurring injury, regularly shows diva attitudes, regularly screws up in the clutch, for the new max salary-> that money can be better spent elsewhere, i've not read much of an argument for durant beyond his name and his ability to share the court with aldridge and leonard- sure he can share the court with them, that doesnt necesarily make it good nor better than another lineup (if it were possible, CP3 would be the ideal fit). while this team does need more scoring (both 3pt shooting and inside scoring), it has enough high usage jump shooters- more lacking are good penetration, playmaking, versatile guards in general for what should be obvious reasons- mills and green arent enough to replace manu and parker. Durant is not a playmaker, his ability to bring the ball up does not make him a point guard.
1) I'll only mention one of many things that KD can bring to the team or help the other two stars. Insane Gravity. That characteristic alone will make Kawhi and LMA better players than they are.

2)In that case you need to define "clutch" because Durant is one of the League's most lethal clutch(as we know it) players.

[SpursBig3s]

not true


lol, who is then

[Spurs_619]

you already know who hes going to say

[LongtimeSpursFan]

Kawhi would benefit most from a Durant signing. This would allow him to do what he does best: play defense and score off the ball movement. Forcing Kawhi to lead a team on offense is not his strength. Aldridge and Durant could lead the teams in scoring and Kawhi could anchor the D.

[gilmor]

I think the injuries where due to how they are forced to carry the team night in night out. They'd lose otherwise. He wouldn't need to score more than 20ppg here. You take him in a heartbeat.

What happen if he is a bigger prima donna than Porker?

[dabom]

As long as he don't fuck a player's wife we good. :lol

[Seventyniner]

What happen if he is a bigger prima donna than Porker?

Hard to tell, Parker isn't much of a prima donna. Probably the biggest on the team but that's not saying much.

[BatManu20]

KD isn't coming to SA. Unless Pop has a massive affect on him during Team USA this summer and he falls in love with the idea or something. But just don't see Durant bolting for a rival, especially if we knock them out of the playoffs. Gasol is a much more realistic possibility of Timmy retires imo.

[PopTheGOAT]

Dude needs to eat a few sammiches first
SA FTW TBH

[PopTheGOAT]

I mean, I'd definitely take him :lol But you can't just talk shit about Kawhi, get beat by the Spurs (possibly), then go join them lol. If all that happens and KD still joins the Spurs, I wanna know what kinda brainwashing tactics are involved in those meetings

[PopTheGOAT]

KD isn't coming to SA. Unless Pop has a massive affect on him during Team USA this summer and he falls in love with the idea or something. But just don't see Durant bolting for a rival, especially if we knock them out of the playoffs. Gasol is a much more realistic possibility of Timmy retires imo.
I like Gasol as a filler, be he is not an "answer" for this team by any stretch of the imagination. Spurs would have plenty of money left over after that signing, though. Obviously, this season's playoffs are still the focus, but I'm eager to see what happens in summer FA.

[FromWayDowntown]

Threads like these remind me why good organizations don't let fans have a say in basketball personnel decisions.

[$pursDynasty]

getting Durant and getting Noah to sign a DWest type deal would be ideal if we lost Manu next year.

[cutewizard]

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/spurs/article/Kevin-Durant-praises-Kawhi-Leonard-Spurs-system-7381681.php....

Kevin Durant praises Kawhi Leonard, Spurs' systemBy Nick Moyle (http://www.mysanantonio.com/author/nick-moyle/)
Updated 2:58 pm, Thursday, April 28, 2016
"Coach Pop has given him a lot of opportunity to go play his game," Durant told reporters following practice Thursday. "He's grown so much. He's probably the best in the league at shooting the mid-range off the dribble. Can post up, dribble, shoot the three, catch and shoot. Their team, their system, their continuity and how they move allows him to get free a lot of times and utilize his game. Definitely one of the players that I look at, try to watch."

[Splits]

KD isn't coming to SA. Unless Pop has a massive affect on him during Team USA this summer and he falls in love with the idea or something. But just don't see Durant bolting for a rival, especially if we knock them out of the playoffs. Gasol is a much more realistic possibility of Timmy retires imo.

Pop isn't coaching Team USA this summer.

[Uriel]

Would you guys be willing to give up winning the championship this year if it meant Durant coming to the Spurs?

[look_at_g_shred]

Would you guys be willing to give up winning the championship this year if it meant Durant coming to the Spurs?
It's a tough question.. I mean if it meant the championship was for sure, then no because nothing is guaranteed with Durant coming over here. Injuries are a part of the game, and unfortunately for Durant, he's been through a couple of surgeries on his foot already. Don't get me wrong though, it's hard to turn away from a talent like Durant.

[Seventyniner]

Would you guys be willing to give up winning the championship this year if it meant Durant coming to the Spurs?

If winning the title meant he wouldn't come.....hmm. I'd take the ring but it's closer than I'd like to admit. Last summer some were against the idea of signing Aldridge because it would have a major impact on the team's depth, but it all worked out really well. I think the FO could make it work again. High-end talent wins in this league, I don't think you can turn down a top-5 player.

Locking up Durant for 4 years at a contract that will be a good bit smaller than his potential max in 2017 would be a steal. For that same reason, Durant signing a 1-and-1 with the Thunder (like LeBron) wouldn't surprise me at all.

[Beaverfuzz]

not coming, next post

[Dro210]

lol, who is then


you already know who hes going to say

That dude is an idiot

[Arcadian]

This is a weird time to be discussing this when he's playing against the Spurs.

[Sean Cagney]

If the Spurs beat OKC does he use the old if you can't beat em join em thing after this year?

[disciple]

Would you guys be willing to give up winning the championship this year if it meant Durant coming to the Spurs?

Never give up one in the hand for two in the bush

[Chinook]

Threads like these remind me why good organizations don't let fans have a say in basketball personnel decisions.

In what way? Do you believe the Spurs would sacrifice those players to get Durant?

[FromWayDowntown]

In what way? Do you believe the Spurs would sacrifice those players to get Durant?

I believe that if the Spurs could get a talent like Durant, they'd take any reasonable steps (basically, sacrifice anyone other than Leonard or Aldridge -- perhaps a very limited number of others) to get it done. I also don't think that would be a mistake.

I tend to think that fans overrate intangible things in team-building and, almost invariably, make player assessments from a significant distance. Pop and his crew know these guys (even when they play in other cities), have the club's culture in mind in deciding whether to pursue them, and generally combine those two things (at least) when making that decision. Frankly, if they decide (based on what they know) that adding a player would be wise, they're far better situated to make that determination than any of us are. That's why I'm glad that fans don't make those decisions.

I'm also glad because fans aren't particularly principled in these sorts of things. It's funny, if you had presented this sort of an idea to Spurs fans around 2002 -- consider taking on a major talent of Durant's stature at the cost of "chemistry" or some sort of positional conflict -- the overwhelming sentiment would have been to make that move. 14 years later, with far more evidence of just how shrewd the Spurs front office is in its evaluation of talent and having tasted championships repeatedly, there's a substantial sentiment against such a move.

I've stopped trying to advocate for or against any moves by this team in the abstract. If PATFO are actually contemplating a particular move, my general sentiment is that they know considerably more about it than I do and have already weighed the plusses and minuses. That's not to say I don't have opinions about their transactions, just that I tend to give the Spurs the benefit of the doubt.

[MultiTroll]

Would you guys be willing to give up winning the championship this year if it meant Durant coming to the Spurs?
Noooo.
1. Duncan is owed maximum effort for what may be his final chance / CIP Pops owes him big time due to last years Pork-n-Pop Clippers series.

2. What is the status of Durants foot? Is he at risk of reinjuring at any time? By that I mean more so then a star with a foot that was never previously injured.

[offset formation]

Noooo.
1. Duncan is owed maximum effort for what may be his final chance / CIP Pops owes him big time due to last years Pork-n-Pop Clippers series.

2. What is the status of Durants foot? Is he at risk of reinjuring at any time? By that I mean more so then a star with a foot that was never previously injured.

This is the correct answer of course.

[tholdren]

Durant is not spur quality.

[spursistan]

Zach reiterates it again in his series preview...


Nope. Thunder-Spurs III is no undercard, especially in the final year of Kevin Durant's contract, with San Antonio quietly discussing what kind of cap gymnastics it would take to get into the Durant derby, per several league sources.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/15429149/the-spurs-thunder-meet-yet-another-epic-playoff-showdown

[SpursforSix]

Would you guys be willing to give up winning the championship this year if it meant Durant coming to the Spurs?

No fucking way. This is 6 and maybe Tim and Manu's last rodeo.

[Biggems]

Would you guys be willing to give up winning the championship this year if it meant Durant coming to the Spurs?

Hell no.....a bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush. Give me a for sure 6 instead of a maybe 6, 7, 8.

[GSH]

Would you guys be willing to give up winning the championship this year if it meant Durant coming to the Spurs?


So the trick here is that they WOULD win this season vs. getting Durant next season? Nope. Part of that is because it's likely Tim's last shot - and probably Manu's. Part of it is because Durant isn't close to being a guarantee of even one other title, much less more than one. The Heat thought that LeBron was going to bring them 6-7-8 Championships, and he only brought them two, with a dream-team cast.

If the Spurs manage to win it all this year, it's going to put a lot of old ghosts to rest.

[99 Problems]

He's Texan. Well was here long enough to lay claims.

[CGD]

Zach reiterates it again in his series preview...



http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/15429149/the-spurs-thunder-meet-yet-another-epic-playoff-showdown

Interesting subtle nuance: this has gone from "other gms think" to "Spurs quietly exploring." Maybe a distinction without much difference but still.

I almost think you have to move Parker for a more defensive minded, game managing type PG like George Hill if you bring KD. Then again I'm not so sure how effective Green off the bench would be.

[Gagnrath]

If this is serious talk and not hype the person I would be worried about being offended is Aldridge. Duncan if he stays is OK with coming off the bench at this point or at least a limited role. Kahwi is a natural 3. Personally I see Durant as being better off 10 lbs heavier and playing 4. (I know the weight on foot argument but I counter with way less movement on D). Aldridge sees himself as a 4 as well. Playing with those 3 as the front court works against most teams and you bring in Duncan or Boban or Whomever against larger/heavier traditional teams. Kahwi as a 2 and no Green seriously weakens the perimeter D and contract wise means Parker was likely kept. Green at 2 and an a Defense minded passing of even a young one is sick on both ends.

I am also curious about .trying to poach D'Angelo Russell from the Lakers. That locker room and organization is a mess and from my view point what he tried to do showed moral character but question execution on the methods. He also has mad talent. I would see if you can approach Jim Buss with Parker and a Second for Russel and what ever salary filler is needed. Point out Parker won't tweet locker room infidelity. Tell Parker he is then in LA all year for clubbing his pick of starlets and wanna be actresses. Everyone but the Lakers win.

[spursistan]

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[tholdren]

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this shit is why doucherant is a loser. same as lebron. these players are the coach and the gm. the can't win they blame the figurehead of the business side... loser

[Spurs9]

Just when you think we are dominating Pop throws in more weapons off the bench
Edit: in the wrong thread :lol

[Canyonero]

IT'S HAPPENING

[spursistan]

wrong thread

[Chinook]

The longer this goes on, the less sense it makes.

[SpursforSix]

The longer this goes on, the less sense it makes.

Yeah. Durant is an incredible talent. But unless he takes a huge paycut, there are better ways to spend that money and not have to move players to new positions.

[tholdren]

6/15 16pts, 24 pouty complaints, 3 tears, 12 walkbacks on defense. ELITE

[sasaint]

Yeah. Durant is an incredible talent. But unless he takes a huge paycut, there are better ways to spend that money and not have to move players to new positions.

I believe we will have several holes to fill, meaning we will have to spread our cap money rather than concentrating it on one player. Another thing that I think escapes most people is Kawhi. The Spurs are "his" team, but he has just the second highest salary. How would it sit with him to be the third highest paid player? Especially when he was home-grown and the other guys were FAs. Durant ain't coming, and I ain't sorry.

[will_spurs]

We already have a 3.

[CGD]

I do think Durant is more in play this summer than we've been lead to believe. The warriors are going to be elite for the rest of KD's prime, and Spurs are completing an unprecedented transition that will keep them in contention for several years too. It's unclear if the thunder will be able to break through, so why not join one of those two squads if your KD?

[Uriel]

The Washington Post came out with an interesting article today about how the Spurs could win free agency again this year by signing Durant and / or Gasol this offseason.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2016/04/30/spurs-of-the-moment-san-antonio-could-again-steal-free-agency-this-summer/

[SpursforSix]

I believe we will have several holes to fill, meaning we will have to spread our cap money rather than concentrating it on one player. Another thing that I think escapes most people is Kawhi. The Spurs are "his" team, but he has just the second highest salary. How would it sit with him to be the third highest paid player? Especially when he was home-grown and the other guys were FAs. Durant ain't coming, and I ain't sorry.

I agree with everything you said. It'd be an exciting signing but they just don't need an elite scorer at that spot. Would love to see a good big and a solid young PG. I don't think the front office would see anything differently.

[raybies]

I'll take him. Imagine Leonard as a two for a second. Feasting on smaller players or whoever has a bigger mismatch between him and Kevin. Kawhi has the skill set to play two. He can do everything Danny does and better.

Parker
Leonard
Durant
Aldridge
Duncan Forever

[PopTheGOAT]

I'll take him. Imagine Leonard as a two for a second. Feasting on smaller players or whoever has a bigger mismatch between him and Kevin. Kawhi has the skill set to play two. He can do everything Danny does and better.

Parker
Leonard
Durant
Aldridge
Duncan Forever
Yep, I don't think he'll want to play here but it would be stupid to not want him. Spurs would crush GS with KD. That small ball crap wouldn't cut it

[Chinook]

I don't look at this game and think the Spurs need Durant. His offensive spots aren't really that good, and like most casuals, he seems to think the "system" gives the Spurs PPG boosts. But the Spurs' foundation is based on their perimeter defense, and maintaining that has to be the biggest priority. They need more scoring, but that has to come from the guard spots. Keeping the younger parts of the core and adding someone like Clarkson or taking a short-term flier on an Eric Gordon makes the most sense, especially if Tim retires and you need some cap to replace him.

[NASpurs]

I don't look at this game and think the Spurs need Durant. His offensive spots aren't really that good, and like most casuals, he seems to think the "system" gives the Spurs PPG boosts. But the Spurs' foundation is based on their perimeter defense, and maintaining that has to be the biggest priority. They need more scoring, but that has to come from the guard spots. Keeping the younger parts of the core and adding someone like Clarkson or taking a short-term flier on an Eric Gordon makes the most sense, especially if Tim retires and you need some cap to replace him.

Gross, hopefully it's the shortest term of fliers.

[Chinook]

Gross, hopefully it's the shortest term of fliers.

Gordon actually checks a lot of boxes. He's a great shooter, can get make his own offense, passes well and is an above-average defender. I'd prefer Clarkson on a long-term deal since he's young and can play PG, but Eric isn't a bad use of $10 Million or so.

[raybies]

I don't look at this game and think the Spurs need Durant. His offensive spots aren't really that good, and like most casuals, he seems to think the "system" gives the Spurs PPG boosts. But the Spurs' foundation is based on their perimeter defense, and maintaining that has to be the biggest priority. They need more scoring, but that has to come from the guard spots. Keeping the younger parts of the core and adding someone like Clarkson or taking a short-term flier on an Eric Gordon makes the most sense, especially if Tim retires and you need some cap to replace him.

And if Green just hits his shots our guard situation isn't that bad. If Green is our third best player after Kawhi and LaMarcus we are in good shape. He is earning his money and we are that much better for it. He's the difference between a top 5 offense and a near top offense. When he's hitting it's like the pressure valve is loose and the air is flowing. Would of liked to see Patty go off too but hey he'll be due for the next one.

I like Clarkson. He could use a good start, i just doubt the Spurs go that way. Imo they quietly go after Durant because if he is interested you have to at least try. He's a top 5 player. But I think Pau would be the best scenario overall. I think he could fit in this version of Duncan's shoes and a little more. And he wouldn't cost that much, theoretically.

[TheGreatYacht]

This could be you, KD

[midnightpulp]

No way he's coming. Would you want to go the team that humiliated you :lol

(I know we haven't officially humiliated the Thunder yet).

[NASpurs]

Gordon actually checks a lot of boxes. He's a great shooter, can get make his own offense, passes well and is an above-average defender. I'd prefer Clarkson on a long-term deal since he's young and can play PG, but Eric isn't a bad use of $10 Million or so.

Oh I'm not denying his skills or talents. It's just him only playing 70+ games once in his career and only averaging about 50 the last seven seasons. His health would always be a concern but I guess that's why you said the Spurs should take a short-term flier on him.

I would love Clarkson here! Hopefully that San Antonio connection would sway him.

[K...]

No way he's coming. Would you want to go the team that humiliated you :lol

(I know we haven't officially humiliated the Thunder yet).

it's his best chance to humiliate Lebron.

[Chinook]

And if Green just hits his shots our guard situation isn't that bad. If Green is our third best player after Kawhi and LaMarcus we are in good shape. He is earning his money and we are that much better for it. He's the difference between a top 5 offense and a near top offense. When he's hitting it's like the pressure valve is loose and the air is flowing. Would of liked to see Patty go off too but hey he'll be due for the next one.

I like Clarkson. He could use a good start, i just doubt the Spurs go that way. Imo they quietly go after Durant because if he is interested you have to at least try. He's a top 5 player. But I think Pau would be the best scenario overall. I think he could fit in this version of Duncan's shoes and a little more. And he wouldn't cost that much, theoretically.

I'm talking about long term. The Spurs need to figure out how to replace Parker's declining production, and hell, some of Manu's. They have the cap room to do something this off-season if they have to, and they can do with without closing the door on so many players.

[Chinook]

Oh I'm not denying his skills or talents. It's just him only playing 70+ games once in his career and only averaging about 50 the last seven seasons. His health would always be a concern but I guess that's why you said the Spurs should take a short-term flier on him.

I would love Clarkson here! Hopefully that San Antonio connection would sway him.

Gordon hasn't averaged fewer than 30 mpg any season of his career. I think coming off the bench in a lower-usage role would help keep him healthy. Yes, though, the short-term part is that hopefully the Spurs can draft someone like Malik Beasley to learn from Gordon for a year or two.

I think Clarkson would have a ton of interest in being a Spur. The much bigger issue is that he's an Arenas RFA, so the Lakers can keep him relatively cheaply. Might have to negotiate a S&T.

[K...]

Yeah It's going to be very interesting to see who else wants to come. These rumors certainly help with other FA who think if it's good enough for KD it's good enough for me....thank you Z.Lowe

[RD2191]

Tbh as a basketball fan I would hate it if he signed here. We have our stars in LMA and Kawhi. The NBA has too many shit teams as is and KD signing with us would make one more. Would be nice to see him out East so LBJ would at least have to play an equal talent on his way to the finals.

[PopTheGOAT]

For those saying that he plays the same position as Kawhi, Spurs could start them at 2/3, then play them like KD/Russ play right now. There's one of them on the court at all times.

[PopTheGOAT]

Tbh as a basketball fan I would hate it if he signed here. We have our stars in LMA and Kawhi. The NBA has too many shit teams as is and KD signing with us would make one more. Would be nice to see him out East so LBJ would at least have to play an equal talent on his way to the finals.
yep, if he doesn't come here, he needs to go to the east

[T Park]

The Washington Post came out with an interesting article today about how the Spurs could win free agency again this year by signing Durant and / or Gasol this offseason.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2016/04/30/spurs-of-the-
moment-san-antonio-could-again-steal-free-agency-this-summer/



If they sign Durant, I'd scream. Durant and Pau Gasol? I mean, my god...

[AaronY]

You got to be a complete moron not to want Durant on your team. I mean Jesus.

[cutewizard]

guys, did you see the look on Durant's face today??

the guy is ready................ready to come here, hahahahahahahahaha

[Kawhitstorm]

Gordon actually checks a lot of boxes. He's a great shooter, can get make his own offense, passes well and is an above-average defender. I'd prefer Clarkson on a long-term deal since he's young and can play PG, but Eric isn't a bad use of $10 Million or so.

The issue with Gordon is that he is NEVER healthy ala Bradley Beal. I could see him signing w/ a team like the Grizzlies who could use his scoring punch & will be willing to risk a "melon" contract. Much rather offer 10 mill to Fournier & see if he bites since I don't think the Magic are prioritizing re-signing him over market price b/c of Hezonja.

[TheDoctor]

You guys liked how the offense looked tonite with Verde hitting his treys? Imaging that every night but with Durant. EVERY NIGHT.

[Chinook]

You guys liked how the offense looked tonite with Verde hitting his treys? Imaging that every night but with Durant. EVERY NIGHT.

Yeah, like all those threes Durant was hitting tonight...

[cutewizard]

if Durant wants to come here:

WELCOME, WELCOME AND THRICE WELCOME!!!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NkUrpbG7lI

[TheDoctor]

Yeah, like all those threes Durant was hitting tonight...
Bad game is a bad game. Plus Donovan :lmao

[Chinook]

Bad game is a bad game. Plus Donovan :lmao

It's been a bad post-season for him. And while I do think he'd be awesome as spot-up guy for the Spurs, you're kidding yourself in projecting him into that role. He's not coming to Texas unless he's eating first.

[apalisoc_9]

Man, Eric Gordon is a horrible idea. Hes one of the worst in the league in certain abilities called Durability and Injury Proneness. He's Someone that is going to just try to fit in, and thats great but the only thing hes going to fit in when the spurs play is his nice suits because he will always be injured.

He hasnt had a good season healthwise in like how what 3-5years? Hes been down so much, its hard to remember.

If hes willing to take 6 and under. Why not. Thats not going to happen though. Id rather take fournier...ofcourse if the spurs feel like they can rehab Gordon, maybe its worthwhile.

[apalisoc_9]

Durant will never come. Kawhi and Durant hate each other.

Do people forget how the bench reacted when he made a sweet move on durant and durant feel to the ground? Everyone jumped like crazy...Thr bench hardly does those unless among themselves they dislike Durant and was happy kawhi punked his ass.

[Aztecfan03]

I'll take him. Imagine Leonard as a two for a second. Feasting on smaller players or whoever has a bigger mismatch between him and Kevin. Kawhi has the skill set to play two. He can do everything Danny does and better.

Parker
Leonard
Durant
Aldridge
Duncan Forever
I think we'd need a better defensive pg in that situation, especially against the Warriors.

[Sean88888]

The projected salary cap for 16/17 is $92m. KD is a 9-year veteran, so under this cap his max contract will be worth $25.9m the first year. The most feasible scenario for the Spurs to clear this amount of cap space is:



Timmy, Manu and D. West opt-out/retire. If any of them wishes to re-sign with exceptions or vet min afterwards they can do so.
Trade Danny Green and Patty Mills for no salary back.
Draft and stash the 1st round pick.


The new roster would look like this:



Player
Salary


Kevin Durant
$ 25,900,000


LaMarcus Aldridge
$ 20,575,005


Kawhi Leonard
$ 17,638,063


Tony Parker
$ 14,445,313


Boris Diaw
$ 7,000,000


Kyle Anderson
$ 1,192,080


Jonathon Simmons
$ 874,636


Boban Marjonovic
$ 1,500,000


Rookie Minimum
$ 543,471


Rookie Minimum
$ 543,471


Rookie Minimum
$ 543,471


Rookie Minimum
$ 543,471


Rookie Minimum
$ 543,471


Total
$ 91,842,452






Projected Cap
$ 92,000,000




Of course, there are other routes to clear $25.9m (letting 2 out of Kyle/Boban/Simmons go instead of Patty, or trading Parker instead of Green, or trading Diaw plus some other cap gymnastics), but this is probably the most feasible scenario.

Keep in mind that getting KD would ensure championship contention for the next decade. Lack of depth for 1 year is a small price to pay.

Tbh my greatest regret if this happens is letting Patty go for nothing. Under the new cap, $3m for a player of his calibre is UNBELIEVABLE value. His contract is actually a huge asset.

[GSH]

Sigh

[turkish spurs fan]

no need KD

[tholdren]

Sean88888 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=39224)

GOAT


YOURE GAY

[spursparker9]

If KD go to GSW then we can start to worry.

Otherwise, chill

[Sean88888]

Sean88888 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=39224)

GOAT


YOURE GAY


lol at least I provide some OC to this forum

[tholdren]

durant is a bitch. people who want him on the spurs are probably 12 year olds who have to line up at the mall when new shoes come out. ST is starting to make reddit look good.

[tholdren]

lol at least I provide some OC to this forum

real deep stuff going on here Mr. anime. You should discuss graphic novels and ninja movies with cry havoc

[mudyez]

Is KD worth it?

No he isn't.

Same goes for Dubs.

[TrainOfThought5]

Thanks for a fresh thread and a dose of reality to a board with its head in the clouds of KD rumors (including me)

Im willing to lose Parker, ESPECIALLY if Duncan retires. Diaw isnt getting any younger or leaner either, and Kyle will be ready for a larger bench role next year. Losing Patty would really hurt, but if theres anyway we could trade for a solid pick to package and move up for an pure point guard to run the offense and feed the horses we gotta take it.

[tmtcsc]

I'd like a new stud PG for the Spurs. They don't need KD.

[Slomo]

The projected salary cap for 16/17 is $92m. KD is a 9-year veteran, so under this cap his max contract will be worth $25.9m the first year. The most feasible scenario for the Spurs to clear this amount of cap space is:...

Good post, but same discussion is already going on in the other thread.

[NASpurs]

Don't know what it is but with the eye test, he seems to be regressing a bit and I'm not basing this on yesterday's game.

[cutewizard]

can we lure John Wall??

thats a stud pg i like for our team

[picnroll]

Tough to loose Green and his defense but he'd be very easily tradeable as a 3 and D and would free up cap room. We could probably get a pick thrown in given his contract. Package the 29 and trade up this year or get a future pick. Question is would Pop do it or stay loyal. Anybody thinking if training Parker it would likely be hard to move him, Pop's loyalty and who's going to be the PG?

[exstatic]

If this is serious talk and not hype the person I would be worried about being offended is Aldridge. Duncan if he stays is OK with coming off the bench at this point or at least a limited role. Kahwi is a natural 3. Personally I see Durant as being better off 10 lbs heavier and playing 4. (I know the weight on foot argument but I counter with way less movement on D). Aldridge sees himself as a 4 as well. Playing with those 3 as the front court works against most teams and you bring in Duncan or Boban or Whomever against larger/heavier traditional teams. Kahwi as a 2 and no Green seriously weakens the perimeter D and contract wise means Parker was likely kept. Green at 2 and an a Defense minded passing of even a young one is sick on both ends.

I am also curious about .trying to poach D'Angelo Russell from the Lakers. That locker room and organization is a mess and from my view point what he tried to do showed moral character but question execution on the methods. He also has mad talent. I would see if you can approach Jim Buss with Parker and a Second for Russel and what ever salary filler is needed. Point out Parker won't tweet locker room infidelity. Tell Parker he is then in LA all year for clubbing his pick of starlets and wanna be actresses. Everyone but the Lakers win.

Green would almost certainly have to go to clear the cap room, so you slide KL2 to the 2, play KG at the 3, and LMA at the 4.

[coachmac87]

What if Durant signed a discounted 1yr deal gives wiggle room to bring back maybe Tim or Manu to build the best contender possible. Then resigns once the cap sky rockets and then fill in the missing pieces

[BillMc]

If we ring this year I doubt anything happens. You don't ship off 3 or 4 guys who just helped you get a championship, no matter who you're getting back. Very un-Spursy.

[BillMc]

What if Durant signed a discounted 1yr deal gives wiggle room to bring back maybe Tim or Manu to build the best contender possible. Then resigns once the cap sky rockets and then fill in the missing pieces

I thought about that too. But I think there is a reason that would be bad for KD. Some cap expert type please assist us.

[K...]

What if Durant signed a discounted 1yr deal gives wiggle room to bring back maybe Tim or Manu to build the best contender possible. Then resigns once the cap sky rockets and then fill in the missing pieces

he's a beta with a bum foot. I don't think he plays the short term game. It's too risky, he's not lebron either in personality or health.

[Spurtacular]

Spurs would pay some luxury tax if it meant attaining Durant. I don't know how much, though.

[RD2191]

Seriously KD is just a faggot tbh. I'd probably take Dray Green over KD.

[peacemaker885]

Silver has been good to the Spurs but I doubt if he allows it.

[T Park]

Spurs would pay some luxury tax if it meant attaining Durant. I don't know how much, though.


They're paying it this year.

They have completely changed course on the anti tax thing which has been fantastic. Has killed the Thunder.

[TheGreatYacht]

The Worriers can afford to miss on a player like KD, they're still young and getting better.

The Spurs? They're getting older and this is most likely Tim's and Manu's last year. Spurs stayed put after 2014 and they went out in the first round because they regressed. So what did they do? They went out in free agency and bought the best scorer there was available. You don't pass on an opportunity to sign a player like Durant.

[BackHome]

Seriously KD is just a faggot tbh. I'd probably take Dray Green over KD.

I agree KD is soft and I think his broken foot has impacted his over all game. He just looks slower out on the court he plays terrible defense and he is a jerk.

[wingster]

Durant will never come. Kawhi and Durant hate each other.
So you keep saying. With 0 proof.

[BackHome]

durant is a bitch. people who want him on the spurs are probably 12 year olds who have to line up at the mall when new shoes come out. ST is starting to make reddit look good.

+1

[spursistan]

He's been having a lousy playoffs so far and you have to wonder whether his head is into it ...if it ends ugly for them (hopefully, as Spurfan), bolting from that terribly managed franchise should be no-brainer (obviously his beta side may tell him to waste another season so he can plan the future together with Westbrook)..

Sure, jumping in with his main roadblocks (Spurs/Warriors) wouldn't look good for his overall (competitive) image, but we don't know exactly his desperation level when it comes to winning..if he comes straight to you, you take him..You would be foolish not to :lol..

IMO he should consider going East: Boston/Atlanta/Wizards are all good options..If he signs with any of them, they are automatically co-favorite with Cavs to make the Finals.. KD is soon 28 and entering the second half of his prime that's going to be played on a bum foot.. .he should be close to the point where averaging +35 MPG while expected to be playing 82 games is unhealthy for his long term career prospects..He's been raving about "great systems" for a while now, we will see if he's conscious enough to walk into a situation that maximizes his talents and takes some offensive load off him with better scheming/structure (ie his team should able to get by on most (non-playoff) nights he only has 15-17 points)..

[HankChinaski]

I see the off season the spurs looking at free agency for a viable PG to fill in minutes in the rotation then after that someone to fill the void in the 4/5 position going into the off season. Evaluate the potential over bringing in one maybe two international players from our stash picks and finally with the spurs pick in the draft seeing what falls down to there late pick in the draft.

I think they focus the off season with improving the team against the current flaws it has with its lineup versus competition.

PG is are weakest position now defensively as well as facilitating on the offensive end. It isn't bad currently but it is definitely something teams take advantage of.

Going after Durant and spending cap space or wheeling and dealing to create cap for him just doesn't look like and ideal thing to do.

[DMC]

KD wants to be seen as the best player in the league. He's not going to get that sharing the wealth. He's going to need to go somewhere like LA or NY to do it because there's not enough stats and spotlight in small market America unless you're a generational talent like Lebron, and you have to have a media friendly persona to get there as well. KD has turned into a salty fuck in OKC. That's not who he was when he first went to Seattle. He needs to find a big market and shut up and make his mark there. The last thing he needs is a small market team where his talent is diluted and his lack of defense is made more obvious.

[coachmac87]

He's been having a lousy playoffs so far and you have to wonder whether his head is into it ...if it ends ugly for them (hopefully, as Spurfan), bolting from that terribly managed franchise should be no-brainer (obviously his beta side may tell him to waste another season so he can plan the future together with Westbrook)..

Sure, jumping in with his main roadblocks (Spurs/Warriors) wouldn't look good for his overall (competitive) image, but we don't know exactly his desperation level when it comes to winning..if he comes straight to you, you take him..You would be foolish not to :lol..

IMO he should consider going East: Boston/Atlanta/Wizards are all good options..If he signs with any of them, they are automatically co-favorite with Cavs to make the Finals.. KD is soon 28 and entering the second half of his prime that's going to be played on a bum foot.. .he should be close to the point where averaging +35 MPG while expected to be playing 82 games is unhealthy for his long term career prospects..He's been raving about "great systems" for a while now, we will see if he's conscious enough to walk into a situation that maximizes his talents and takes some offensive load off him with better scheming/structure (ie his team should able to get by on most (non-playoff) nights he only has 15-17 points)..


If he wants to win a title he has 3 options (Warriors, Spurs or Cavs). Going anywhere else would be just a waste of time. Cavs aren't a legit option but if he goes to any team in the East they won't be better than Cleveland.

The emergence of the Warriors really fucked things up for him to stay in OKC. They have no chance to legitimately contend with them next couple of years. And we've all heard the chance of him joining them which IMO is REAL.

Spurs sre pretty much the only team that can compete THIS year with GSW..next year or so is still up in the air. But if he joins SA it changes the landscape.

It's SA or GSW with GSW being the favorite IMO. Only way he stays in OKC is the $$.

[tholdren]

If he wants to win a title he has 3 options (Warriors, Spurs or Cavs). Going anywhere else would be just a waste of time. Cavs aren't a legit option but if he goes to any team in the East they won't be better than Cleveland.

The emergence of the Warriors really fucked things up for him to stay in OKC. They have no chance to legitimately contend with them next couple of years. And we've all heard the chance of him joining them which IMO is REAL.

Spurs sre pretty much the only team that can compete THIS year with GSW..next year or so is still up in the air. But if he joins SA it changes the landscape.

It's SA or GSW with GSW being the favorite IMO. Only way he stays in OKC is the $$.

That's the kind of player you could cheer for? Someone who's a dick, who can't win, who runs to his rival or competition...? Isn't this the reason people hate LeBron?

[coachmac87]

KD wants to be seen as the best player in the league. He's not going to get that sharing the wealth. He's going to need to go somewhere like LA or NY to do it because there's not enough stats and spotlight in small market America unless you're a generational talent like Lebron, and you have to have a media friendly persona to get there as well. KD has turned into a salty fuck in OKC. That's not who he was when he first went to Seattle. He needs to find a big market and shut up and make his mark there. The last thing he needs is a small market team where his talent is diluted and his lack of defense is made more obvious.



KD wants at least 1 title. He' doesn't want to be Melo. His numbers and personal accolades will speak for themselves. He just needs a title or titles to really put him with the all time greats..which is where he wants to be

[coachmac87]

That's the kind of player you could cheer for? Someone who's a dick, who can't win, who runs to his rival or competition...? Isn't this the reason people hate LeBron?

It's reality. LeBron did it and it worked out well. Just the "decision" wasn't the way to do it.

And hell yeah I'd cheer for him. Unlike the "player" fans it's the name on the front that matters not the back.

And why should he stay in OKC? He's been there long enough and the team has gotten worse with surrounding talent and he has a terrible coach.

[tholdren]

It's reality. LeBron did it and it worked out well. Just the "decision" wasn't the way to do it.

And hell yeah I'd cheer for him. Unlike the "player" fans it's the name on the front that matters not the back.

And why should he stay in OKC? He's been there long enough and the team has gotten worse with surrounding talent and he has a terrible coach.

I don't think "it worked out." LeBron had a chance to be a Fan favorite had he stayed in Cleveland the whole time. There are still Cleveland fans who don't like him I am certain.

Why would Durant stay in OKC? It's called finishing what you start. No one gets hired, or fired, or traded without KD/RW giving their takes. Maybe it's just about work ethic, and building something. LeBron didnt build anything - Miami bought a ring. Durant, if he does bolt to a contender, will only be able to say the same. 20 years from now, Lebron will regret paying for a ring instead of working for a ring. It's a matter of ethics, something it seems that these kids know nothing about.

[coachmac87]

I don't think "it worked out." LeBron had a chance to be a Fan favorite had he stayed in Cleveland the whole time. There are still Cleveland fans who don't like him I am certain.

Why would Durant stay in OKC? It's called finishing what you start. No one gets hired, or fired, or traded without KD/RW giving their takes. Maybe it's just about work ethic, and building something. LeBron didnt build anything - Miami bought a ring. Durant, if he does bolt to a contender, will only be able to say the same. 20 years from now, Lebron will regret paying for a ring instead of working for a ring. It's a matter of ethics, something it seems that these kids know nothing about.

LeBron got 2 rings. Something he wouldnt' have got staying in Cleveland.

Aldridge did it too tbh. He's been with Portland 10years and had decent runs and had a great uprising star in Lillard..but was it good enough??? Nope. Spurs, Warriors and Cavs are just too good.

Sooo LA came here because it was his best shot to win a title. It's not about how or where you start lol.. It's all about how you finish and what is said once your career is over.

[picnroll]

I don't think "it worked out." LeBron had a chance to be a Fan favorite had he stayed in Cleveland the whole time. There are still Cleveland fans who don't like him I am certain.

Why would Durant stay in OKC? It's called finishing what you start. No one gets hired, or fired, or traded without KD/RW giving their takes. Maybe it's just about work ethic, and building something. LeBron didnt build anything - Miami bought a ring. Durant, if he does bolt to a contender, will only be able to say the same. 20 years from now, Lebron will regret paying for a ring instead of working for a ring. It's a matter of ethics, something it seems that these kids know nothing about.
I guess if you graduate from a school with a degree, are assigned to work for a company, you should stick it out with that company for the rest of your career, unless of course they trade you to another company:

[DieHardSpursFan1537]

If he wants a ring, he may as well join the Spurs for a pay cut. The man is worth $60 million.

I just don't see it happening though tbh

[dbreiden83080]

Kind of getting the feeling his best years are already over. I don't feel like he will be this dominant offensive force in the next 5 years, like he was mostly in the previous 5.

[Seventyniner]

I can't see Durant signing a 5-year max with OC this summer. How can he trust that ownership and front office anymore? If he does then it's all about the money imo. Not that there's anything wrong with that, it will just be telling.

A 1-and-1 with OC like LeBron did, or a 4-year max with another team are the most likely scenarios to me.

[DMC]

KD wants at least 1 title. He' doesn't want to be Melo. His numbers and personal accolades will speak for themselves. He just needs a title or titles to really put him with the all time greats..which is where he wants to be
He's too young to be ring chasing. He still needs to build his brand. Getting a title as "one of" isn't going to get him past the 2nd best. He's openly stated he wants to be the best player in the game, not 2nd best. He likes MVPs and accolades.

[coachmac87]

He's too young to be ring chasing. He still needs to build his brand. Getting a title as "one of" isn't going to get him past the 2nd best. He's openly stated he wants to be the best player in the game, not 2nd best. He likes MVPs and accolades.

Also heard him saying he's tired of finishing 2nd. Dude wants a ring

[DMC]

Also heard him saying he's tired of finishing 2nd. Dude wants a ring

He's only finished second one time. Otherwise he's talking about him personally. He's been second to Westbrook since he got there minus the time Russ was injured which was the catalyst for Durant's MVP.

[CGD]

He's too young to be ring chasing. He still needs to build his brand. Getting a title as "one of" isn't going to get him past the 2nd best. He's openly stated he wants to be the best player in the game, not 2nd best. He likes MVPs and accolades.

Brand is a non-issue. He's been able to build that quite nicely in Oka-freakin-homa. Don't buy the "doing it on his own" argument either. Players stopped thinking like that a long time ago. Oh, and the "best player" in the league went to Miami to team up with Wade and Bosh to get a ring, and has yet to get a chip on his own.

The reality is that the Warriors aren't going anywhere for the rest of Durant's prime, and the Spurs are in the midst of completing an unprecedented transition to a new core of players that will ensure long term success. I'm not saying he'll leave OKC this summer, but I think he's in play.

[coachmac87]

If the Spurs get a meeting with Durant it's a done deal...

It's up to the Spurs tbh..

[DMC]

Brand is a non-issue. He's been able to build that quite nicely in Oka-freakin-homa. Don't buy the "doing it on his own" argument either. Players stopped thinking like that a long time ago. Oh, and the "best player" in the league went to Miami to team up with Wade and Bosh to get a ring, and has yet to get a chip on his own.

The reality is that the Warriors aren't going anywhere for the rest of Durant's prime, and the Spurs are in the midst of completing an unprecedented transition to a new core of players that will ensure long term success. I'm not saying he'll leave OKC this summer, but I think he's in play.

I didn't say he wants to do it on his own. I said he wants to be the man. Lebron was the best player (you said so) before that. Durant has never been considered the best player in the league. Lebron didn't cease being the best player when he went there and was able to pull MVP out of it despite playing alongside two stars. KD had to have Russ crippled before he could actually get anything going in OKC.

It's delusional to think KD wants to ride a team to a ring. He wants to get out of Oklahoma and see where it takes him, but I highly doubt he wants to play a subservient role to anyone in the Spurs organization.

[BackHome]

He is not playing third fiddle to Kawhi and LMA he will end up in LA or Washington/Knicks..for a big ass contract $$$$$

[Spurtacular]

He's been having a lousy playoffs so far and you have to wonder whether his head is into it ...if it ends ugly for them (hopefully, as Spurfan), bolting from that terribly managed franchise should be no-brainer (obviously his beta side may tell him to waste another season so he can plan the future together with Westbrook)..

I don't think he really even likes Westbrook, tbh. He does what he needs to do to get along with him is all.

[Spurtacular]

I didn't say he wants to do it on his own. I said he wants to be the man. Lebron was the best player (you said so) before that. Durant has never been considered the best player in the league. Lebron didn't cease being the best player when he went there and was able to pull MVP out of it despite playing alongside two stars. KD had to have Russ crippled before he could actually get anything going in OKC.

It's delusional to think KD wants to ride a team to a ring. He wants to get out of Oklahoma and see where it takes him, but I highly doubt he wants to play a subservient role to anyone in the Spurs organization.

Doesn't matter what he wants. Durant is smart enough to know that if he doesn't go to a better situation he's not gonna ring.

[Keepin' it real]

I don't keep up with players' social lives. Is Durant buds with LMA? (You know, the UT connection.)

[DMC]

Doesn't matter what he wants. Durant is smart enough to know that if he doesn't go to a better situation he's not gonna ring.
lol people with regular jobs who see NBA as a recreational activity thinking pros prioritize "rings" above money. Would you leave your business to earn a "best in class" certificate or notoriety elsewhere and sacrifice half your pay? If you had enough already, perhaps, but these guys are corporations in and unto themselves, and they have a lot of people around them pushing them this or that way. You can bet they aren't being pushed to San Antonio, because posses don't give a shit about your ring. They want money.

[hater]

I do agree. He's going to d wizards.

[SpursforSix]

lol people with regular jobs who see NBA as a recreational activity thinking pros prioritize "rings" above money. Would you leave your business to earn a "best in class" certificate or notoriety elsewhere and sacrifice half your pay? If you had enough already, perhaps, but these guys are corporations in and unto themselves, and they have a lot of people around them pushing them this or that way. You can bet they aren't being pushed to San Antonio, because posses don't give a shit about your ring. They want money.

It'll depend on the player. Tbh...I don't know if Durant gives a shit about a ring. But it's hard to tell if he gves a shit about the money either. He's got plenty so it will come down to if a championship is important to him. I don't think he'll care what his posse wants.

[CGD]

I didn't say he wants to do it on his own. I said he wants to be the man. Lebron was the best player (you said so) before that. Durant has never been considered the best player in the league. Lebron didn't cease being the best player when he went there and was able to pull MVP out of it despite playing alongside two stars. KD had to have Russ crippled before he could actually get anything going in OKC.

It's delusional to think KD wants to ride a team to a ring. He wants to get out of Oklahoma and see where it takes him, but I highly doubt he wants to play a subservient role to anyone in the Spurs organization.

who knows really. My point was that he's more in play than perhaps was reported at the beginning of the year and the reason for that is that the landscape at the top of the west doesn't look to be changing anytime soon. I think OKC has long thought they'd surpass the Spurs and it has yet to happen, which is while KD's recent comments about Pop are interesting. It has to give him some pause, I think, as he's in his prime and just one season removed from a serious foot surgery.

Also, he seems to like OKC and can continue to "be the man" there. If your right he just stays there. I just don't think he leaves for anything that isn't an upgrade and there are only two places that happens. neither of them are the Wiz or are in a flashy top 3 market.

[tholdren]

LeBron got 2 rings. Something he wouldnt' have got staying in Cleveland.

Aldridge did it too tbh. He's been with Portland 10years and had decent runs and had a great uprising star in Lillard..but was it good enough??? Nope. Spurs, Warriors and Cavs are just too good.

Sooo LA came here because it was his best shot to win a title. It's not about how or where you start lol.. It's all about how you finish and what is said once your career is over.

It is. And that's why I said I think its a kid deal. no ethics.

[DMC]

It'll depend on the player. Tbh...I don't know if Durant gives a shit about a ring. But it's hard to tell if he gves a shit about the money either. He's got plenty so it will come down to if a championship is important to him. I don't think he'll care what his posse wants.
Guys with plenty money want fame. He'd take that ring if it meant fame but I doubt, at his age, he's ready to stack on a team and ring chase for less money and a shared spotlight. He's better than that now, in OKC.

The only thing I can imagine Durant wanting outside of fame is either home town fans (meaning his home town) or playing for a great coach. He won't get both though. Pop could get him to the Finals and a ring, and with Pop heading up USA Basketball, there could be something there, but it won't be to chase a ring. It would be to play under a head coach that isn't about to get fired, in a situation that capitalizes on his strengths and doesn't make him look beta. You can tell he feels beta sitting next to Westbrook.

[SpursforSix]

Guys with plenty money want fame. He'd take that ring if it meant fame but I doubt, at his age, he's ready to stack on a team and ring chase for less money and a shared spotlight. He's better than that now, in OKC.

The only thing I can imagine Durant wanting outside of fame is either home town fans (meaning his home town) or playing for a great coach. He won't get both though. Pop could get him to the Finals and a ring, and with Pop heading up USA Basketball, there could be something there, but it won't be to chase a ring. It would be to play under a head coach that isn't about to get fired, in a situation that capitalizes on his strengths and doesn't make him look beta. You can tell he feels beta sitting next to Westbrook.

Idk. I think you're giving him too much credit in thinking things through. But I do agree that the home town thing may be a deciding factor. I don't know that coming to the Spurs gets him a ring with the potential sacrifices they'd have to make. Maybe under the right coach, he'd show some desire or toughness. Right now, he looks like someone who really doesn't give a shit. Or at least someone that gives a shit but doesn't have the drive to do anything about it.

[DMC]

Idk. I think you're giving him too much credit in thinking things through. But I do agree that the home town thing may be a deciding factor. I don't know that coming to the Spurs gets him a ring with the potential sacrifices they'd have to make. Maybe under the right coach, he'd show some desire or toughness. Right now, he looks like someone who really doesn't give a shit. Or at least someone that gives a shit but doesn't have the drive to do anything about it.

That's fake "give a shit". 10x more defensive during the press conference than during the game.

[SpursforSix]

That's fake "give a shit". 10x more defensive during the press conference than during the game.

Which is why I hope the Spurs don't try to get him. Unless it's on the cheap. And not if it means moving players to an unnatural position.

[Kawhitstorm]

Im willing to lose Parker, ESPECIALLY if Duncan retires.

Who the hell is going to trade for Tony? :lol

[spurraider21]

Which is why I hope the Spurs don't try to get him. Unless it's on the cheap. And not if it means moving players to an unnatural position.
Durant would be a better PG than porker

[DMC]

Which is why I hope the Spurs don't try to get him. Unless it's on the cheap. And not if it means moving players to an unnatural position.
It won't be on the cheap. They said LMA couldn't defend but when he gets into a program that demands it, he's been pretty solid. Guys who aren't forced to defend, guys like James Harden and KD, they never expend the energy to do so. We know James can defend if he wants to, we've seen it and he's a good defender when he wants to be. Kobe was the same, but like the previous 2 I mentioned stopped trying when he no longer felt the urge. Glory comes from offense, it's a rare breed who establishes their defensive game before trying to get their shots.

[DMC]

Who the hell is going to trade for Tony? :lol
Larry Bird might trade Paul George for Tony. It would be nice to have Paul George back in a Spurs uniform.

[Kawhitstorm]

If he wants to win a title he has 3 options (Warriors, Spurs or Cavs). Going anywhere else would be just a waste of time. Cavs aren't a legit option but if he goes to any team in the East they won't be better than Cleveland.

If he sign w/ the Wiz then they could pose a legit threat to the Cavs.

Gortat
Markieff (w/ training camp)
KD/Porter/Oubre
Beal (healthy)
Wall
+2016 Lotto pick

This team could have beaten last season's Cavs.

[Kawhitstorm]

Larry Bird might trade Paul George for Tony. It would be nice to have Paul George back in a Spurs uniform.

I wouldn't be surprised if Feel Jackson traded for Tony (absorb him into the cap) after he realizes nobody wants to sign w/ the Knicks.:lol

[SpursforSix]

It won't be on the cheap. They said LMA couldn't defend but when he gets into a program that demands it, he's been pretty solid. Guys who aren't forced to defend, guys like James Harden and KD, they never expend the energy to do so. We know James can defend if he wants to, we've seen it and he's a good defender when he wants to be. Kobe was the same, but like the previous 2 I mentioned stopped trying when he no longer felt the urge. Glory comes from offense, it's a rare breed who establishes their defensive game before trying to get their shots.

It'd be an expensive gamble to find out if KD was that rare breed. Don't want to spend that money and move players and end up with TMac 2.0.

[SpursforSix]

Durant would be a better PG than porker

I'm on board with that. If getting Durant means they get I'd of Parker and his salary, that's more compelling.

[DMC]

Let's be clear; KD isn't coming to SA. Now that we have that out of the way, Tony Parker isn't going anywhere either. So now we have LMA and KL. We have KL locked up pretty well and I don't know about LMA's contract. We're good enough to not sell the farm to get that diminishing return, and historically we've rested on "good enough" in hopes that some luck and preparation will put us in a position to compete for a championship come June. We've had plenty seasons where this or that went against our plans, but some where we were in the right place when the stars aligned and we were able to grab another ring from this group. Now we have relatively the best defensive team we've ever fielded and it's possible our offense comes along. We could use some outside shooting that's world class like we've had in the past, but we don't need a franchise player to do that. What KD does for OKC is to hit shots at a high rate and get to the line and knock them down. We'd find a place for him and no doubt the rest of the league would cower in fear, but that's not who the Spurs have ever been. They acquired LMA because TD and Manu are retiring, and someone is going to fill that "face of the franchise" void. KL is one of them but there's room for two at least, these days. You don't see too many solo acts any more but there are a couple who rise above the noise (James and Curry).

[elemento]

He would never sign there, but I think Atlanta is probably the best fit for him.

Defensive minded team with a great coach and great complementary players for Durant.

Teague
Korver
Durant
MillsapHorford

Looks good on paper and they could challenge the Cavs in the East.

[Sean88888]

I'm on board with that. If getting Durant means they get I'd of Parker and his salary, that's more compelling.

The problem with this is that a team needs to take Parker giving no salary back. So they're not trading nothing for Parker, they're trading $14.4m in cap space for 2 years for him. This is especially a problem now because there's a huge cap jump coming next year and every team will have cap space to spend, but Parker's contract will eat into that.

Normally we might be able to trade him and even get something back, but this year and next we might even have to include a pick to get rid of his contract.

The one most likely to be traded if we are to chase KD/Conley/Horford is still Danny Green, because he has his market, and because Diaw's contract is only $7m which is not enough to clear max cap space. Don't expect to get an asset back either because every GM knows we are trading to clear cap space and trading $12m in cap for him is plenty. Same situation with Splitter last year.

[Spurtacular]

lol people with regular jobs who see NBA as a recreational activity thinking pros prioritize "rings" above money. Would you leave your business to earn a "best in class" certificate or notoriety elsewhere and sacrifice half your pay? If you had enough already, perhaps, but these guys are corporations in and unto themselves, and they have a lot of people around them pushing them this or that way. You can bet they aren't being pushed to San Antonio, because posses don't give a shit about your ring. They want money.

He can get rings and money, tbh. He is in that category. And players know that rings are calling cards post career. They actually have capital value besides prestige.