Zach Lowe "Durant to Spurs buzz is ascendant around the league"

[spursistan]

Zach is a VERY CREDIBLE reporter.:wow


I will say this: The Spurs buzz is ascendant in a way that is eerily similar to what happened last January at the D-League Showcase, when a half-dozen unconnected team executives warned me over the span of a few days that LaMarcus Aldridge would bolt from Portland for San Antonio. Who knows. At the very least, the Wizards will get a chance to make their pitch.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/15353834/the-wizards-go-back-drawing-board-scott-brooks

[spurraider21]

not happening tbh. i dont think the financials add up unless we were allowed to amnesty tony

[Chinook]

Zach is a VERY CREDIBLE reporter.:wow



http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/15353834/the-wizards-go-back-drawing-board-scott-brooks

Lowe is a very credible analyst -- probably the best on the major outlets. But he's not much of a reporter.

[apalisoc_9]

Perfect Backup for Kawhi,Imo.

Joking aside, its not going to happen. Theres a lot of bad tension between Kawhi and KD. It aint happenung

[Chinook]

not happening tbh. i dont think the financials add up unless we were allowed to amnesty tony

They could dump Green (I'm gonna throw up) and stretch Diaw to free up about $30 Million. Or they could just dump Tony.

[gambit1990]

that would be insane... in a good way of course.

[SpursFan86]

He's not coming here :lol

[The Reckoning]

Meh

[Robz4000]

:lol

[Darius Bieber]

Obligatory league=f:lolcked if this happens... Durant, Leonard, and Aldridge front court...

But yeah, it's not happening. He's either staying or going to Washington.

[Hoops Czar]

He's not coming here :lol

[spursistan]

Lowe is a very credible analyst -- probably the best on the major outlets. But he's not much of a reporter.
he has kind spread his wings among league executive circles and is getting more into reporting stuff inside the long format analysis ..and he is surely not a click-bait hack, or something..so there is something here that he heard...

[RD2191]

Would never happen and KD is a faggot but fuckin hell, talk about a 3peat.

[BillMc]

Come to the Dark Side, Kevin...

http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/307/files/2015/12/SpursSW.jpg

[tholdren]

ITS NOT HAPPENING!!!!

[DPG21920]

It's already happened, but would get even more legs with another deep run, but Kawhi is a huge draw for FA's. If you want to win and still get a lot of the credit, there is no player better to team up with than Kawhi.

Not to mention the ridiculous amount of respect players have for Pop. These guys who are older, but not old (LMA, Durant, etc..) are probably looking long and hard at balancing money and winning. They all just witnessed what happened to Kobe. They are looking for reasons to play under Pop and Pop being the HC of the UMNT is another big advantage.

If Spurs have the motivation and equal money, they will have a good shot at a lot of FA's in the next few years.

As an aside to that, I think stars coming from smaller markets already will be more open to playing in SA too (LMA, Durant). They know what the small markets are all about and have tasted success within them.

[apalisoc_9]

Zach lowe actually reported a week ago that Pop always asks and always consults his best player about specific moves. They did it with aldridge. Kawhi and the big 3.

Can you imagine Pop going to kawhi

Pop: We're trying to bring in you Rival. I know you dont like each other but we need to. We also have to get rid of your mate danny. I know hes been a perfect fit for you defensively but we need to

Kawhi: Wtf.

[TheDoctor]

Obligatory league=f:lolcked if this happens... Durant, Leonard, and Aldridge front court...

But yeah, it's not happening. He's either staying or going to Washington.
Actually, is gonna be a 3-Durant / 4-LMA / 5-Gasol frontcourt.

Kawhi will play SG making him the indubitably best SG on the League. If Pop traded his beloved Paul George for an unproven rookie, dropping Green for Durant is a no brainer.

[bluebellmaniac]

If we need to move Green, then Bud on line 1 would be the answer....

I wonder what Boston would give for Verde... they do have a lot of picks...

[td4mvp2k]

no! we have porker

[BillMc]

If we need to move Green, then Bud on line 1 would be the answer....

I wonder what Boston would give for Verde... they do have a lot of picks...

Rumor was Bud was going to give us Holford for Green. After that and Splitter, we know he'll do business.

[bluebellmaniac]

We need number crunching to see what is possible under various scenarios. Only a few on here are really able to crunch the numbers correctly...

[spursistan]

Would never happen and KD is a faggot but fuckin hell, talk about a 3peat.
yep..it is always good to have talented faggots on your team :lol..I hate his guts, but i will take a nigga who is averaging 30 PPG in career games vs the Dubs any day..

[spursistan]

that Parker contract :bang..

[coachmac87]

If the $$ is close and it's doable for the Spurs I can easily see it getting done.

1)Durant hates the media. Spurs culture and non attacking media due to Pop eliminates that completely.

2) Kawhi. He's literally the only player in the league who can guard you. Why not play with him? And the potential of what can happen if they play together.

3) Pop. He's the main reason why anybody would want to play for the Spurs. He's by far the best coach with the most pedigree. You know you'll win playing for him and it would be the best chance for a ring. Period.

[BillMc]

One wonders if there would be enough shots to go around even on an unselfish team like the Spurs.

[TheDoctor]

If we need to move Green, then Bud on line 1 would be the answer....

I wonder what Boston would give for Verde... they do have a lot of picks...
After losing DCarroll coach Bud would receive Danny with arms wide open tbh. Make Baze your 6th man.

[coachmac87]

One wonders if there would be enough shots to go around even on an unselfish team like the Spurs.

Probably not but that's where the efficiency comes into play. You may not get as many looks but the ones you do get are quality looks. Durant would get soooooo many open 3's it wouldn't matter lol

[spursistan]

Hopefully we go raw in the Thunder and Pop whispers him something in the post-series hand-shake..Dude could be desperate for a ring..i just don't want us to waste Kawhi peak years like Duncan 2000-2002..

[ElNono]

Obligatory league=f:lolcked if this happens... Durant, Leonard, and Aldridge front court...

But yeah, it's not happening. He's either staying or going to Washington.

:lol who are you kidding? you'll quit 3 games in after the first loss in November when Pop is resting everybody...

[K...]

i he went to OKC he'd be playing in hickville and have to deal with and ever arrogant westy

DC would be an average team that probably gets abused by lebron.

The warriors would be competing with touches between a ball dominant PG and an arrogant C/PF. He'd wreck the culture and be blamed as the scapegoat.

The lakers are a mess.

The spurs would make him the main scorer while not having him be any big defender. It depends on personality but it appears he's a lot like LMA

[emanueldavidginobili]

Durant is going to Washington or Lakers

[SPURt]

Durant is going to Washington or Lakers
if he wants to lose

[Spur|n|Austin]

Durant is going to Washington or Lakers

link?

[DarrinS]

Dude needs to eat a few sammiches first

[BillMc]

Durant is going to Washington or Lakers

Why would he waste the remainder of his prime in LA not winning and paying California taxes?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Lowe is a very credible analyst -- probably the best on the major outlets. But he's not much of a reporter.

As wrong as you've been about what the team can and cannot do with the cap and major free agents the last couple years, your gauge as to what is reasonable or not in that context is demonstrably poor. Your ability to project is similarly terrible.

[SAGirl]

Has anyone not heard, we are adding the latvian Durant (Davis Bertans) so Lowe got things confused... :lol
lol
In reality, how about letting Boris go? someone else?
I don't believe Durant for us is realistic bc he doesn't address our needs personally, but as long as we are speculating, I like to speculate as much as anyone.
What would it really take?
I am ignorant on cap issues though, so I could go video game on ideas, so I am timid on stuff like this.
Technically, LMA and Durant are both Texas grads...
I am unsure on Kawhi liking Durant specifically.

[BillMc]

As others had said, Spurs are suddenly a more desirable location:

1. Young great star who does not seek or hog the limelight.
2. Pop
3. You know you'll win.
4. Texas cost of living, no state tax.

[baseline bum]

I mean it's possible in theory if the Spurs cut Diaw, salary dump Mills, if Tim, Manu, and DWest retire, if they don't pick up the team options on Slowmo and Simmons, and let Boban walk. But it would be chickenshit not to give West a new contract this summer after the huge paycut he took to come, so pretty much the only reasonable option would be finding a team to take Parker on a salary dump.

[CGD]

Leaving aside the highly nuanced and riveting "it ain't happenin'" analysis for a minute, how would the cap math work?

[sexinthatsx]

Spurs need the next star PG instead of a washed up KD tbch...

[james evans]

that Parker contract :bang..
that shit was bad from the start. I don't know anyone outside of parker fans who agreed with it. Get rid of parker, green, and bonner for Durant.

[DarrinS]

Yeah, if they screw over West, I'll be pissed.

[cjw]

They could dump Green (I'm gonna throw up) and stretch Diaw to free up about $30 Million. Or they could just dump Tony.

You don't even need to stretch Diaw. Worst case, could probably trade him away for filler to a team over the cap that is looking to add salary (or get no salary back in a three-way trade), as Diaw's deal can be traded out at $7 million but is only guaranteed for $3 million.

Still, if this in fact is the Spurs' master plan and with the shorter tampering window, GMs will try to extract value out of Diaw.

[DarrinS]

Rather have a high-quality PG

[DarrinS]

And we have a great player at that position already

[DPG21920]

Has anyone not heard, we are adding the latvian Durant (Davis Bertans) so Lowe got things confused... :lol
lol
In reality, how about letting Boris go? someone else?
I don't believe Durant for us is realistic bc he doesn't address our needs personally, but as long as we are speculating, I like to speculate as much as anyone.
What would it really take?
I am ignorant on cap issues though, so I could go video game on ideas, so I am timid on stuff like this.
Technically, LMA and Durant are both Texas grads...
I am unsure on Kawhi liking Durant specifically.

Long story short, here's the financial picture for next year:


2016 free agency:

Here’s where the Spurs stand financially going into next summer: per Chinook

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=258409&p=8496062#post8496062


Guaranteed (No Option):
LaMarcus Aldridge $20,575,005
Kawhi Leonard $17,638,063
Tony Parker $14,445,313
Danny Green $10,000,000
Patty Mills $3,578,948
Kyle Anderson $1,192,080
Boris Diaw $3,000,000

Total $70,429,409

Non-guaranteed (No option):
Boris Diaw $4,000,000
Jonathan Simmons $874,636

Total $4,874,636

Player Options:
Tim Duncan $5,643,750
Manu Ginobili $2,940,630
David West $1,551,659

Total $10,136,039

Qualifying Offers:
Boban Marjanovic $1,500,000

Total $1,500,000

Cap Holds:
Matt Bonner $980,431
Andre Miller $980,431
Kevin Martin $980,431
Rasual Butler $980,431 (Yes, Butler still counts.)

Total $3,921,724

Draft Picks and Stashed Guys:

29th pick $983,400
Nikola Milutinov $991,600
Livio Jean-Charles $893,500

Total $2,868,500

Projected 2016-2017 salary cap: $92 Million
Projected 2016-2017 luxury tax threshold: $110.8 Million



Just doing the stuff within the Spurs control (meaning players leaving or contracts expiring or team options) Spurs can get almost to a max contract at the current projected cap of 92M. If they want the max losing Danny or TP seems to really be the main way to accomplish this.

[Keepin' it real]

Built not bought!

Oh, wait ...

[BillMc]

Built not bought!

Oh, wait ...

We're dumping the high school sweetheart for the latest hottie down by the pool, tbh. :lol

[Mnky]

Players understand you need other big time players to win. LeBron has a cast of them with 4 Max contracts. Curry has arguably 4 Max contracts on his team, as well as the clippers and thunder and soon to be heat. Anyone wanting to win has to choose to play with other stars or they don't have a shot. Durant will go where he can get paid obviously, but also who can give him a shot at winning.

Spurs just need to rid themselves of Parker's to be in the talks of making something happen. There were talks of trading him at a draft not to long ago. I don't see it being that hard to do if they think they have a shot at teaming up lma Durant and Kawhi.

People are trying to win these days. The money isn't as hard to come by. You definitely get players willing to take the min to play with that team.

It could happen just like him to the Lakers could happen. There's enough reason for it to be logical. We will see how the playoffs play out and who comes up big.

[SAGirl]

Rather have a high-quality PG


And we have a great player at that position already

I agree which is why I said he doesn't make sense for us....
players talk among themselves though, so who knows.

I agree with you. I think we need an elite guard to continue to contend legitly. We probably want a rim protector too. That Diaw/West combo is not going to continue to fly with both players another season older and I think D.West might retire TBH. He's really playing for love of the game at this point, he was already financially secure, thus he had no trouble leaving 12 mill or 11 bc he doesn't need it. From interviews I have seen of him, he has a variety of interests outside the game and will be ready to retire anytime now. Kind of the same for Boris TBH.
If Timmy goes we need a rim protector (be it whoever it is, but we need someone that will need to get paid).

Depending on how our backcourt performs in this offseason, who knows if Pop is ready to make a move to acquire a guard upgrade (whether that is a trade or just a FA signing).

[baseline bum]

We're dumping the high school sweetheart for the latest hottie down by the pool, tbh. :lol

You mean dumping the chick who got fat for the head cheerleader. :lol

[spurraider21]

If it's for the minimum, why not?

[RD2191]

If it's for the minimum, why not?
:lol

[Mugen]

I think the Spurs should play it safe and just cut Tony tbh :lol

[DarrinS]

I agree which is why I said he doesn't make sense for us....
players talk among themselves though, so who knows.

I agree with you. I think we need an elite guard to continue to contend legitly. We probably want a rim protector too. That Diaw/West combo is not going to continue to fly with both players another season older and I think D.West might retire TBH. He's really playing for love of the game at this point, he was already financially secure, thus he had no trouble leaving 12 mill or 11 bc he doesn't need it. From interviews I have seen of him, he has a variety of interests outside the game and will be ready to retire anytime now. Kind of the same for Boris TBH.
If Timmy goes we need a rim protector (be it whoever it is, but we need someone that will need to get paid).

Depending on how our backcourt performs in this offseason, who knows if Pop is ready to make a move to acquire a guard upgrade (whether that is a trade or just a FA signing).



I trust that RC and Pop will make the right moves. They usually do, with a few exceptions (D*** Jefferson).

I like Bobo and West, but they are definitely on the back nine of their careers.

[BillMc]

You mean dumping the chick who got fat for the head cheerleader. :lol
:lol

[hater]

Gasol, LMAlpha, Kawhi, Durant, Parker would be murder to the league IMO.

Stern would come back from the dead to stop this from happening....

[DarrinS]

And Kevin has added a lot of bitchassness to his game, of late. :lol

Not Spur material

[TheDoctor]

And Kevin has added a lot of bitchassness to his game, of late. :lol

Not Spur material
Perfect cover tbh.

[TheGreatYacht]

I don't think he's worth dumping Tony, tbh.. Imo

[Old School 44]

If Durant's looking to get to the Finals and doesn't go to the Spurs or the Warriors, he should go East. Look what playing in the East has done for LeBron's legacy.

[BillMc]

We'll have to beat OKC next round for Durant to consider coming here. No way he vanquishes us then switches to SA.

[DarrinS]

I don't think he's worth dumping Tony, tbh.. Imo

Lulz

[steeledl]

Fucking please. Prime Kawhi + prime Durant > than lebron and wade..... Would be the best wing combo since Jordan and PIppen .... Plus we'd still have LMAlpha.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

I don't think he's worth dumping Tony, tbh.. Imo

Dump green on his ass

[TheGreatYacht]

Dump green on his ass
This. Why aren't you bolded yet?

[DarrinS]

This. Why aren't you bolded yet?

Why aren't you? :lol

[dbreiden83080]

that would be insane... in a good way of course.

Do Not want him. Go win a title with OKC Kevin. Stay with your team and keep at it. This guy has been a rival for many years at this point, with another playoff series about to kick off. I just don't want the guy here..

[DPG21920]

It's easily worth losing Tony or Danny basketball-wise to get Durant. That's not really the question IMO. I don't really see SA dumping TP, especially if the Spurs make a deep run this year. Spurs just don't do that to their players. If they leave in FA to pursue bigger deals, fine, but trading a big 3 member?

Danny, IMO, is the only one they would be "open" to trading, same with Boris. I can't see them trading TP.

[dbreiden83080]

that Parker contract :bang..

Yeah he's only the best PG in Spurs history.. Fuck him..

[DarrinS]

It's easily worth losing Tony or Danny basketball-wise to get Durant. That's not really the question IMO. I don't really see SA dumping TP, especially if the Spurs make a deep run this year. Spurs just don't do that to their players. If they leave in FA to pursue bigger deals, fine, but trading a big 3 member?

Danny, IMO, is the only one they would be "open" to trading, same with Boris. I can't see them trading TP.

Yeah, I can't see them doing that either. Having said that, the PG position is the glaring weakness of the team.

[BillMc]

It's easily worth losing Tony or Danny basketball-wise to get Durant. That's not really the question IMO. I don't really see SA dumping TP, especially if the Spurs make a deep run this year. Spurs just don't do that to their players. If they leave in FA to pursue bigger deals, fine, but trading a big 3 member?

Danny, IMO, is the only one they would be "open" to trading, same with Boris. I can't see them trading TP.

This.

[dbreiden83080]

If Durant's looking to get to the Finals and doesn't go to the Spurs or the Warriors, he should go East. Look what playing in the East has done for LeBron's legacy.

Great talent is still in OKC, he just needs to stick it out. All these guys bolting in FA during their prime harms their legacies to me. I always respected guys like Ewing, Miller, Malone so much for staying put and trying year after year to get that ring. Not just looking for an easier option.. What was Malone like 40 before he finally tried LA for one season?

[random21]

We'll have to beat OKC next round for Durant to consider coming here. No way he loses to us then switches to SA.

Thats true...

[Sec24Row7]

Danny is who would have to go.

[coachmac87]

It's easily worth losing Tony or Danny basketball-wise to get Durant. That's not really the question IMO. I don't really see SA dumping TP, especially if the Spurs make a deep run this year. Spurs just don't do that to their players. If they leave in FA to pursue bigger deals, fine, but trading a big 3 member?

Danny, IMO, is the only one they would be "open" to trading, same with Boris. I can't see them trading TP.


It's not only about getting rid of Tony salary but it's also about what your replacing him with? And how much? And it's not Patty.

You can move Danny and Diaw because you have replacements for them on cheap salary (Simmons, Anderson). I'm fine with getting rid of Tony but give me a legit candidate to replace him

[Mnky]

I agree which is why I said he doesn't make sense for us....
players talk among themselves though, so who knows.

I agree with you. I think we need an elite guard to continue to contend legitly. We probably want a rim protector too. That Diaw/West combo is not going to continue to fly with both players another season older and I think D.West might retire TBH. He's really playing for love of the game at this point, he was already financially secure, thus he had no trouble leaving 12 mill or 11 bc he doesn't need it. From interviews I have seen of him, he has a variety of interests outside the game and will be ready to retire anytime now. Kind of the same for Boris TBH.
If Timmy goes we need a rim protector (be it whoever it is, but we need someone that will need to get paid).

Depending on how our backcourt performs in this offseason, who knows if Pop is ready to make a move to acquire a guard upgrade (whether that is a trade or just a FA signing).

Durant makes sense for any team in the in NBA. He can play the 1-4. You're talking about a top 5 player for all of kawhis prime years next to him. He beats any elite guard out there the spurs could have a shot at. He's often guarded by guards because forwards arnt fast enough. He pretty much is a sg, just a really tall one.He also has the spurs no. 1 attribute in length. You can't teach that, and his 3pt shooting, driving, and passing would be an upgrade over any perimeter player the spurs have not to mention he has been playing good defense this year. It would be much better in a system like the spurs, especially next to Kawhi. He makes perfect sense for the spurs. You have to score to compete today. Spurs get plenty of stops, it's the other end they can't buy a shot half the time.

He's having a horrible series against Dallas tho.

[024]

Parker is the giant elephant in the room for the FO. A huge contract and almost a complete liability in the starting lineup. The league has a wealth of talented point guards and they can all easily destroy Parker as he ages. At least Duncan is still useful in the starting lineup and Manu already comes off the bench.

I'm not one of those Parker bashers but this is the reality. How many free agents and potential young starting point guards will the Spurs pass on to stay loyal to Parker?

[Mnky]

It's not only about getting rid of Tony salary but it's also about what your replacing him with? And how much? And it's not Patty.

You can move Danny and Diaw because you have replacements for them on cheap salary (Simmons, Anderson). I'm fine with getting rid of Tony but give me a legit candidate to replace him


The pg field will be slim pickings for sure. Lin would work great but don't know if he would take the min. Spurs. old possibly offer a little more with manu out. Lawson fell off so fast, if anyone can help him it's pop. Chalmers, and ish Smith are options. You wouldn't necessarily need a threat, with a Durant signing, just someone who could run through the system and set up the plays. Wouldn't have a great selection though in the free agent pool.

[HarlemHeat37]

There's probably no chance of this actually happening, but eww, one of the most unlikable players in the NBA, tbh..it would be really tough to cheer for the Spurs if they sign this bitch-ass nigga..

[soxxx]

Durant goes to Boston imo, solid foundation, solid roster, Boston has three first round draft picks, and potentially the #1 pick (nets pick), they have a good coach, and he gets to go to the East.

[DPG21920]

Parker is the giant elephant in the room for the FO. A huge contract and almost a complete liability in the starting lineup. The league has a wealth of talented point guards and they can all easily destroy Parker as he ages. At least Duncan is still useful in the starting lineup and Manu already comes off the bench.

I'm not one of those Parker bashers but this is the reality. How many free agents and potential young starting point guards will the Spurs pass on to stay loyal to Parker?

I could see SA trading for a higher draft pick and getting a PG they like. Then doing to that PG what they did to TP and handing them the keys if TP is struggling. TP I think would have to accept this like the PG's before him and like Manu.

[DPG21920]

There's probably no chance of this actually happening, but eww, one of the most unlikable players in the NBA, tbh..it would be really tough to cheer for the Spurs if they sign this bitch-ass nigga..

Quit lying :lol. Sure, you don't like him now, but like any time a FA is even mentioned with SA the excitement will overwhelm anything at that point.

Spurs fans (all fans) have always been giddy about trades and FA. Now that SA is actually landing dudes and big name FAs?

[Chinook]

Durant can't play the one, what the hell? He's one of the best shooters in the league, so he can obviously fit with Kawhi. But he's not going to settle for that, so he'll be playing his game, which doesn't jive with Kawhi and LMA. I can't believe that the same people who are saying that doesn't matter are the ones lamenting the end of the beautiful game. That stuff goes away when you get stars. I mean, you obviously have to get Durant if he wants to be a Spur, but those two and Parker is like the best way to get an underachieving team.

[dabom]

You can't cut old players like Tony. Sends a bad sign to FAs. You need green for defense and spacing. Send Tony to coach Bud. I don't know if Bud takes another dud though. :lol

[HarlemHeat37]

I can't imagine Durant leaving Westbrook, tbh..Russ takes all the heat away from him..

Dominos is in the perfect situation, he's a superstar player that doesn't get treated like one by the fans and media, despite being a perennial loser:lol..he constantly criticizes the media, usually for illogical reasons, yet they continue to give him a pass for his failures, unlike his peers(other than Chris Paul)..

[HarlemHeat37]

Quit lying :lol. Sure, you don't like him now, but like any time a FA is even mentioned with SA the excitement will overwhelm anything at that point.

Spurs fans (all fans) have always been giddy about trades and FA. Now that SA is actually landing dudes and big name FAs?

He's a top 4 player in the NBA, I just strongly dislike him..probably the player I dislike most in the NBA..

[dabom]

He's a top 4 player in the NBA, I just strongly dislike him..probably the player I dislike most in the NBA..

You need talent like him though. Hyper efficient as a beta to Kawhi.

[DPG21920]

Durant can't play the one, what the hell? He's one of the best shooters in the league, so he can obviously fit with Kawhi. But he's not going to settle for that, so he'll be playing his game, which doesn't jive with Kawhi and LMA. I can't believe that the same people who are saying that doesn't matter are the ones lamenting the end of the beautiful game. That stuff goes away when you get stars. I mean, you obviously have to get Durant if he wants to be a Spur, but those two and Parker is like the best way to get an underachieving team.

I think it would work well on offense (at least better than this offense). Imagine Durant taking Tim's spot in the offense which is what I would see happening. LMA would be a 5, Durant a 4 & Leonard a 3. LMA/Kawhi would lose some shots, but having Durant be able to space the floor better than Tim (like a stretch 4) and with his ability to create, I can see this offens working for sure.

Would just need a PG who is ok not taking shots (like a Beverly type).

[DPG21920]

I can't imagine Durant leaving Westbrook, tbh..Russ takes all the heat away from him..

Dominos is in the perfect situation, he's a superstar player that doesn't get treated like one by the fans and media, despite being a perennial loser:lol..he constantly criticizes the media, usually for illogical reasons, yet they continue to give him a pass for his failures, unlike his peers(other than Chris Paul)..

He would get the same thing here with LMA/Kawhi on the team. He would get a lot of credit, but not a lot of criticism especially with Pop at the helm being a master of dominating the media for a small market team.

[FromWayDowntown]

This would seem to have more chance of happening if the Spurs don't win the title this year.

Durant comes to the rescue to get the Spurs back over the Warrior hump and everyone's legacy is good.


And with smallball sweeping the league, Durant and Kawhi don't really play the same spot in a smallball offense. LA is the 5, Durant is a bitch of a stretch 4, and KL is the 3. In more traditional moments, Durant and Leonard are just "wings" with LA and a compliment (Duncan or Gasol?) nearby. It makes a lot of sense basketball-wise.

[HarlemHeat37]

He would get the same thing here with LMA/Kawhi on the team. He would get a lot of credit, but not a lot of criticism especially with Pop at the helm being a master of dominating the media for a small market team.

Ya, Spurs would be fine for him in that regard, but I assume he cares about the perception of his "legacy" and about "leading his own team"..that's something you hear a lot from corny NBA people, as we saw when Lebron joined the Heat:lol

Maybe if they don't make the Finals, this year, he could be viewed as a savior-type..

[baseline bum]

Durant makes sense for any team in the in NBA. He can play the 1-4. You're talking about a top 5 player for all of kawhis prime years next to him. He beats any elite guard out there the spurs could have a shot at. He's often guarded by guards because forwards arnt fast enough. He pretty much is a sg, just a really tall one.He also has the spurs no. 1 attribute in length. You can't teach that, and his 3pt shooting, driving, and passing would be an upgrade over any perimeter player the spurs have not to mention he has been playing good defense this year. It would be much better in a system like the spurs, especially next to Kawhi. He makes perfect sense for the spurs. You have to score to compete today. Spurs get plenty of stops, it's the other end they can't buy a shot half the time.

He's having a horrible series against Dallas tho.

It'd be like having Gervin back, though based on Kawhi's improvement I'm not so sure I'd want to be taking the ball out of his hands for anyone. I guess it'd be a nice problem to have though.

[Chinook]

I think it would work well on offense (at least better than this offense). Imagine Durant taking Tim's spot in the offense which is what I would see happening. LMA would be a 5, Durant a 4 & Leonard a 3. LMA/Kawhi would lose some shots, but having Durant be able to space the floor better than Tim (like a stretch 4) and with his ability to create, I can see this offens working for sure.

Would just need a PG who is ok not taking shots (like a Beverly type).

No way is Durant playing the four full time. He won't survive a season doing that. The Spurs would be better off getting a min stiff to play the five and have KD be the two-guard. Ideally, West would stay on to provide spacing. But if Tony is on the team, it simply won't work. Parker absolutely depends on Lock-n-Lock to safeguard him. Replace Danny with a min guy, and it just goes out the window. Replace him with a motivated KD, it might work. But for the sake of the team, the Spurs need to move Tony if they get another offensive starter. I don't care one bit about loyalty.

[DPG21920]

It'd be like having Gervin back, though based on Kawhi's improvement I'm not so sure I'd want to be taking the ball out of his hands for anyone. I guess it'd be a nice problem to have though.

Like you see this year, the offense while mostly efficient, still struggles to score. Replacing Duncan with Durant on offense 100% solves that problem and makes the Spurs margin for error so ridiculously big.

[Mnky]

Durant can't play the one, what the hell? He's one of the best shooters in the league, so he can obviously fit with Kawhi. But he's not going to settle for that, so he'll be playing his game, which doesn't jive with Kawhi and LMA. I can't believe that the same people who are saying that doesn't matter are the ones lamenting the end of the beautiful game. That stuff goes away when you get stars. I mean, you obviously have to get Durant if he wants to be a Spur, but those two and Parker is like the best way to get an underachieving team.

He's played the 1-2 interchange with Westbrook their whole career. Hes brought it down as much as Westbrook this game and set the plays up much better. Got plenty of open looks for his teammates. Not sure what game you're talking about. He's great at getting teammates looks. He's a smart play maker.

[DPG21920]

No way is Durant playing the four full time. He won't survive a season doing that. The Spurs would be better off getting a min stiff to play the five and have KD be the two-guard. Ideally, West would stay on to provide spacing. But if Tony is on the team, it simply won't work. Parker absolutely depends on Lock-n-Lock to safeguard him. Replace Danny with a min guy, and it just goes out the window. Replace him with a motivated KD, it might work. But for the sake of the team, the Spurs need to move Tony if they get another offensive starter. I don't care one bit about loyalty.

I think he could survive it because most likely, Pop would be managing minutes and they would be beating up on teams. It wouldn't be a 'full" season in the normal context IMO.

But yeah, there are ways around him having to be that full time. It would still be the most often used lineup though.

[timtonymanu]

I'm sorry but the Spurs can't waste Kawhi's prime years with Parker's contract taking up too much space. If Durant comes here, I hope the Spurs have some sense to dump Parker.

[DPG21920]

But I agree, Chinook, about TP. Spurs just need a Pat Beverly type if this happens. A guy that can defend and make up for the loss of Green and that is ok only taking shots he needs to take to keep people honest.

[HarlemHeat37]

The Spurs are gonna have to bench Parker regardless of Durant, tbh:lol

Even if you replaced Green with a playmaking SG, that doesn't fix the issue at PG..a playmaking SG just makes Parker even more useless, if anything..

I hope it doesn't take as much as signing Durant for the Spurs to get a PG replacement..

[ElNono]

If you gotta cut the dead weight to get it done, you do it, imvho

[Mnky]

I'm sorry but the Spurs can't waste Kawhi's prime years with Parker's contract taking up too much space. If Durant comes here, I hope the Spurs have some sense to dump Parker.

Parker is definitely gone if Durant comes. Otherwise you have to let go of 4-5 other players.

[ElNono]

The Spurs are gonna have to bench Parker regardless of Durant, tbh:lol

Even if you replaced Green with a playmaking SG, that doesn't fix the issue at PG..a playmaking SG just makes Parker even more useless, if anything..

I hope it doesn't take as much as signing Durant for the Spurs to get a PG replacement..

tbh, I see Manu plying one more season, especially seeing now how important is his role closing out playoff games, tbh

[timtonymanu]

Then again this team couldn't even get rid of Matt Bonner. :lol

[DPG21920]

TP is not really a tradeable asset at this point either - which is a problem. So couple that with loyalty and I don't see SA trading TP but you never know.

[baseline bum]

Like you see this year, the offense while mostly efficient, still struggles to score. Replacing Duncan with Durant on offense 100% solves that problem and makes the Spurs margin for error so ridiculously big.

Yeah, still probably a pipe dream though. Who is going to take Parker off the Spurs' hands?

[Mnky]

http://thesportspost.com/nba-spurs-kevin-durant-offseason/

Heres an article link discussing the cap moves to make room for Durant.

[gilmor]

tbh, I see Manu plying one more season, especially seeing now how important is his role closing out playoff games, tbh

With Duncan gone and Parker dumped.. I don't see the reason for Manu playing one more season.

He doesn't have the love for the rest of the players, outside of Duncan and possibly, Parker.

[Chinook]

He's played the 1-2 interchange with Westbrook their whole career. Hes brought it down as much as Westbrook this game and set the plays up much better. Got plenty of open looks for his teammates. Not sure what game you're talking about. He's great at getting teammates looks. He's a smart play maker.

Ugh, do you think Anderson has been playing the one as well? No. Durant's been a three this whole time. Sometimes he plays the four. He's NEVER played the one. Running a PnR doesn't change that.

[tholdren]

last thing sa needs is someone like kevin durant. if that's the case, trade parker for Dangelo russell and spurs can have a dance-off instead of a basketball game. wtf... kevin durant.

[Chinook]

But I agree, Chinook, about TP. Spurs just need a Pat Beverly type if this happens. A guy that can defend and make up for the loss of Green and that is ok only taking shots he needs to take to keep people honest.

Durant is going to have to defend. I mean he's going to have to commit to playing D every possession. He'll have no excuse. He won't be saving himself for offense. Anymore. So I don't think the team needs a Beverly. Mills would work just fine for the money.

[HarlemHeat37]

tbh, I see Manu plying one more season, especially seeing now how important is his role closing out playoff games, tbh

Still, though, look at all the other top playoff teams..there's a bunch of limited Danny Green types at SG, but all those teams have dynamic PGs..

[ElNono]

With Duncan gone and Parker dumped.. I don't see the reason for Manu playing one more season.

He doesn't have the love for the rest of the players, outside of Duncan and possibly, Parker.

Duncan is coming back too... and your last sentence is not true either, tbh, if you've been reading some of his articles...

Obviously, if we do ring, then things could change, they might decide to go out on top...

[DPG21920]

Ugh, do you think Anderson has been playing the one as well? No. Durant's been a three this whole time. Sometimes he plays the four. He's NEVER played the one. Running a PnR doesn't change that.

He's confusing point forward with playing the one.

[ElNono]

Still, though, look at all the other top playoff teams..there's a bunch of limited Danny Green types at SG, but all those teams have dynamic PGs..

I just don't see an obvious candidate. I like Mike Conley because he's seasoned and not broken down (yet anyways), but he's really not the dynamic type.

tbh, looking at this season, Pop might actually still go against the modern NBA rules and go with the jumpshots and postups next season, tbh

[DPG21920]

Durant is going to have to defend. I mean he's going to have to commit to playing D every possession. He'll have no excuse. He won't be saving himself for offense. Anymore. So I don't think the team needs a Beverly. Mills would work just fine for the money.

From a defensive perspective? If TP relies on LnL, then what would happen to Patty without that? TP is a better defender, even today, than Mills.

[DPG21920]

Yeah, still probably a pipe dream though. Who is going to take Parker off the Spurs' hands?

That's what I was saying. I don't think it's viable to trade TP both because of loyalty and trade value. I think Danny & Boris are the ones traded to make the "room" even though I would prefer TP be traded.

[Mnky]

Ugh, do you think Anderson has been playing the one as well? No. Durant's been a three this whole time. Sometimes he plays the four. He's NEVER played the one. Running a PnR doesn't change that.

Anderson does play the one at times. Pop has even mentioned how he brings him up to replace Parker when they need more play making.
The 1 brings the ball into play, calls the play, and sets up the play, much like a quarterback in football. Why do you think they call them point forwards when they're in the post? What are your qualifications to be considered a 1 tbh? I'm sure Durant fits them all.

[Mnky]

He's confusing point forward with playing the one.

That's not a position. It's something you say when a forward can play the point guard position.

[coachmac87]

Durant cannot and should not ever play the "one"

[Chinook]

From a defensive perspective? If TP relies on LnL, then what would happen to Patty without that? TP is a better defender, even today, than Mills.

Because Durant wouldn't be the four in the scenario I was talking about. He and Kawhi would have to commit to defense, and they'd probably be the best wing duo in the league on that end unless Green found a DPoY-level partner. Mills though is a great spot-up guy who still has the quickness to guard most PGs well enough. Him being an off-ball guy fits better than what Parker does. And for the money, no-brainer.

[DPG21920]

Because Durant wouldn't be the four in the scenario I was talking about. He and Kawhi would have to commit to defense, and they'd probably be the best wing duo in the league on that end unless Green found a DPoY-level partner. Mills though is a great spot-up guy who still has the quickness to guard most PGs well enough. Him being an off-ball guy fits better than what Parker does. And for the money, no-brainer.

Got you - I was thinking of Durant at the 4.

[Clipper Nation]

Here's how it's gonna go down:

1. Spurs sign Durbeta
2. Kawhi gets pissed off and demands a trade... to the Clippers
3. Spurs = f:lolcked for eternity
4. Spurs move to Seattle

:downspin:

[Chinook]

Anderson does play the one at times. Pop has even mentioned how he brings him up to replace Parker when they need more play making.
The 1 brings the ball into play, calls the play, and sets up the play, much like a quarterback in football. Why do you think they call them point forwards when they're in the post? What are your qualifications to be considered a 1 tbh? I'm sure Durant fits them all.

The Spurs don't usually have the PG call the play. It's very often a wing who is watching Pop while someone else brings the ball up. Anyway, point just means lead. Basketball is not the only thing that uses that term. When a forward runs has the ball to make plays, they are point-forwards. When a center does, they are point-centers. And when a guard does, they are point-guards. That being said, Durant doesn't make plays. He just passes off when he gets doubled. He's not getting guys into their spots. He's not being a coach on the floor. He's not guarding opposing PGs. He's always on he court with at least two other guards.

Only under very narrow definitions is he a PG. None of them allows the Spurs to neglect the real PGs on their roster.

[Dro210]

Don't have time to read all the way thru right now, but the people who still think he's going to Washington are fucking retards.

If he wanted to play for Scotty Brooks, Scott Brooks would still be coaching the Thunder.

He's not going to LA either, fuck some of y'all are so casual.

If it weren't for KDs lack of respect for his superior, Kawhi, I'd say this is gonna happen. Still might. On court, the 3 of those guys together would be magic. Why the fuck not?

The first step is to wipe the floor with his current team and leave no doubt that he's never gonna win there.

[Dro210]

Actually, is gonna be a 3-Durant / 4-LMA / 5-Gasol frontcourt.

Kawhi will play SG making him the indubitably best SG on the League. If Pop traded his beloved Paul George for an unproven rookie, dropping Green for Durant is a no brainer.

:lol

Holy shit, that 2-5.

[dabom]

:lol

Holy shit, that 2-5.

You forgot Patty "Cash Money" Mills. :lol

[Silver&Black]

If it's for the minimum, why not?

tbh...

[Mugen]

His mom would fit right in tbh.

[spurraider21]

His mom would fit right in tbh.
bend over, i'll show you what fits right in

[TrainOfThought5]

Somebody post this shit on ISH and RealGM so I can watch them implode at the thought of it.

[dbestpro]

Kawhi would move to SG and would immediately be the best SG in the NBA.

[Old School 44]

Great talent is still in OKC, he just needs to stick it out. All these guys bolting in FA during their prime harms their legacies to me. I always respected guys like Ewing, Miller, Malone so much for staying put and trying year after year to get that ring. Not just looking for an easier option.. What was Malone like 40 before he finally tried LA for one season?
I agree. I'm just saying if he moves. Personally, I think he's better off without Westbrook.

[Dro210]

You forgot Patty "Cash Money" Mills. :lol

Hey man, its lookin like you were right about Patty flipping the switch to Cash Money Thrills. I'm happy you were. :tu

That lineup would average 130 tbh

[SouthernFried]

What about Defense?

We need a PG or a SG or a Center.

We don't need a SF or PF.

We could move Kawhi to SG, but since he's the best SF in the league...that would be like, stupid.

[cjw]

I agree. I'm just saying if he moves. Personally, I think he's better off without Westbrook.

Not to mention he can stop dressing like an 80s women's basketball player and wear a t-shirt uniform in the playoffs.

[tmtcsc]

Man, fuck Durant. He's a soft-ass chucker. The Spurs need to find TP's replacement. Watching this Dallas game - Justin Anderson is impressing the hell out of me. That's a dude with toughness. That observation has nothing to do with the Spurs' PG needs.

[dabom]

Hey man, its lookin like you were right about Patty flipping the switch to Cash Money Thrills. I'm happy you were. :tu

That lineup would average 130 tbh

Thanks brah. We both win if he gets hot either way. :tu

[tholdren]

Man, fuck Durant. Watching this Dallas game - Justin Anderson is impressing the hell out of me. That's a dude with toughness.
it doesn't get dumber than spurs fans discussing how they want Kevin Durant... board average age =12

[dabom]

it doesn't get dumber than spurs fans discussing how they want Kevin Durant... board average age =12

Stop lowering the average age then. :lol

[Dro210]

What about Defense?

We need a PG or a SG or a Center.

We don't need a SF or PF.

We could move Kawhi to SG, but since he's the best SF in the league...that would be like, stupid.

Kawhi's offensive skill set has already transitioned more towards a SG than a SF anyway imo. He wouldn't miss a beat. He'd go from best 3 to best 2. Being able to add a guy like KD is an opportunity that rarely presents itself.

I agree on PG, but who's out there? Conley is the best, and really the only legitimate option, but I think Memphis is gonna be able to keep him.

Center is the same way. Whose out there? Nobody I'm willing to pay. Whoever it is, they need to be defensive minded. Those guys hardly exist.

[Mr. Body]

Durant makes sense for any team in the in NBA. He can play the 1-4. You're talking about a top 5 player for all of kawhis prime years next to him. He beats any elite guard out there the spurs could have a shot at. He's often guarded by guards because forwards arnt fast enough. He pretty much is a sg, just a really tall one.He also has the spurs no. 1 attribute in length. You can't teach that, and his 3pt shooting, driving, and passing would be an upgrade over any perimeter player the spurs have not to mention he has been playing good defense this year. It would be much better in a system like the spurs, especially next to Kawhi. He makes perfect sense for the spurs. You have to score to compete today. Spurs get plenty of stops, it's the other end they can't buy a shot half the time.

He's having a horrible series against Dallas tho.

He's having a horrible series like Aldridge had a horrible series last year in the playoffs - he knows he's gone and it's hard to get in the right frame of mind.

[Mnky]

The Spurs don't usually have the PG call the play. It's very often a wing who is watching Pop while someone else brings the ball up. Anyway, point just means lead. Basketball is not the only thing that uses that term. When a forward runs has the ball to make plays, they are point-forwards. When a center does, they are point-centers. And when a guard does, they are point-guards. That being said, Durant doesn't make plays. He just passes off when he gets doubled. He's not getting guys into their spots. He's not being a coach on the floor. He's not guarding opposing PGs. He's always on he court with at least two other guards.

Only under very narrow definitions is he a PG. None of them allows the Spurs to neglect the real PGs on their roster.

What has always defined a guard is the ability to pass, dribble and shoot at a high level. Durant can do all of the above. The argument wasn't that he would be a point guard, it was that he can play it, which you agree he can. He also does set up plays, tells people where to go and does very well at creating for his teammates. Passing out of a double team is creating a play. :lol You demand a double and cause a teammate to open up which you then have the vision and ability to make the pass. He's not a top 5 player just because be can shoot. There are plenty of players who can shoot. Who you guard or don't guard doesn't matter, otherwise Kawhi would be considered every position. Either way, we agree he can play it, which was the point. (pun)

[Horry Hipcheck]

Leaving aside the highly nuanced and riveting "it ain't happenin'" analysis for a minute, how would the cap math work?

Salary cap is gonna soar when he hits free agency. Spurs would have to dump probably a couple of people to clear additional space, to match anything OKC or Los Angeles can offer. Depending on how serious the Spurs are about pursuing him in the future, it could mean the end of DG's time in SA. I'm not on the Parker hate train but I wouldn't mind seeing him dumped in favor of KD, freeing the FO to look for the next gen PG.

[313]

No way he comes here after we bounce them in the playoffs again. Plus we already have Kawhi, and Aldridge, I'd much rather spend that money filling out the team with complimentary role players than than having an awkward 2 SF/PF big 3 and being weak everywhere else.

[Horry Hipcheck]

Man, fuck Durant. He's a soft-ass chucker. The Spurs need to find TP's replacement. Watching this Dallas game - Justin Anderson is impressing the hell out of me. That's a dude with toughness. That observation has nothing to do with the Spurs' PG needs.

His role would change considerably under Pop's system. OKC NEEDS him to put up 30 shots a game. The Spurs would not. That said, his shooting has fallen off since his injury.

[Mnky]

LA also isn't as bad a coice as people think. They have young guys worth developing and a top 3 pick plus enough money for two Max contracts, and the huge amount of endorsements you'd make replacing kobe. If he thinks he can carry a team, and there has been talks of him wanting a team to build around him, that could be a good spot going forward depending on their coach.

[Kawhitstorm]

That being said, Durant doesn't make plays. He just passes off when he gets doubled. He's not getting guys into their spots. He's not being a coach on the floor.

Durant was running the offense in 2013-14 when WB was out mid-season. (Reggie Jackson was the secondary playmaker)

[100%duncan]

inb4 100 pages

[Chinook]

What has always defined a guard is the ability to pass, dribble and shoot at a high level. Durant can do all of the above. The argument wasn't that he would be a point guard, it was that he can play it, which you agree he can. He also does set up plays, tells people where to go and does very well at creating for his teammates. Passing out of a double team is creating a play. :lol You demand a double and cause a teammate to open up which you then have the vision and ability to make the pass. He's not a top 5 player just because be can shoot. There are plenty of players who can shoot. Who you guard or don't guard doesn't matter, otherwise Kawhi would be considered every position. Either way, we agree he can play it, which was the point. (pun)

No one but you asserts he can play it. He's NEVER been the PG for his team, according to basketball reference. You keep trying to make a very narrow interpretation to mean simply someone who dribbles and shoots, and I'm not agreeing to that. I think it's completely simplistic and that you confuse being guarded and making the right pass as running an offense. It's not. It's just not. Every Spur does that, and there are still only three PGs on the team.

[Kawhitstorm]

Durant is going to have to defend. I mean he's going to have to commit to playing D every possession. He'll have no excuse. He won't be saving himself for offense. Anymore. So I don't think the team needs a Beverly. Mills would work just fine for the money.

Might as well sign Deng for half the price, instead of expecting Durant to be a low usage player & legit defender. :lol

[diego]

do not want durant, unless he came at a discount and even then not sure. he's not what the team needs, not over himself and not very good bball iq IMO. Much better to compliment leonard and aldridge with more slashers, playmakers, and defenders at the guard spots then to add yet another jumpshooting forward.

[apalisoc_9]

Might as well sign Deng for half the price, instead of expecting Durant to be a low usage player & legit defender. :lol

On a scale from 1 to 10, how much do you like these possible Free Agents this summer for short term deals. I've liked what I have seen from these players and believe they fit with the needs.

1. Jeremy Lin
2. Evan forunier
3. Ian Mahinmi
4. Luol Deng

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

This would obviously be an upgrade no matter what else happens to the team barring LMA being traded, but would Durant adjust well? At least with Westbrook there is a debate but if he joins the Spurs he'd be the second banana for his entire tenure.

[Mnky]

Only under very narrow definitions is he a PG.

I responded to everything you said as far as requirements. Your argument is changing now. He isn't a pg, but he can play the 1 during a game and has done do many times in OKC. Once more, PGs are defined as the best ball handler and court general on the floor. It's not a size thing or a defense thing.It's an ability thing, and Durant has all the abilities to do periodically which he does.

[NASpurs]

inb4 100 pages

In the last Durant thread, you said 1000 pages :lol

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=258374&p=8481651&viewfull=1#post8481651

[larrychen21]

Our best pitch: Kevin you'll never have to worry about Kawhi's defense

[SAGirl]

With Duncan gone and Parker dumped.. I don't see the reason for Manu playing one more season.

He doesn't have the love for the rest of the players, outside of Duncan and possibly, Parker.
With Durant you also don't need Manu to close out games. You can legit hand the bench over to the youngsters and Mills and Bertans and whoever else we have on the cheap. It could be a top heavy team but guys are young and in their primes.

[100%duncan]

In the last Durant thread, you said 1000 pages :lol

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=258374&p=8481651&viewfull=1#post8481651

I forgot about the number actually :lol

[apalisoc_9]

With Durant you also don't need Manu to close out games. You can legit hand the bench over to the youngsters and Mills and Bertans and whoever else we have on the cheap. It could be a top heavy team but guys are young and in their primes.

I swear to god every post you make is to make sure anderson gets more playing time. You're not even trolling and it's not even schetick so you're getting kinda annoying.

[K...]

I swear to god every post you make is to make sure anderson gets more playing time. You're not even trolling and it's not even schetick so you're getting kinda annoying.

welcome to my world 2015. "guys p[arker sucks kawhi is good.....new thread"

[nowitzkikopf]

playing devil's advocate here, but how does durant fit in with spurs structure? isn't he redundant to kawhi? or does kawhi move to the 2 spot if durant ends up in SA?

think you guys should be targeting conley tbh

[K...]

Now i'm pissed that i am not the person leading the pro Kyle trolling.....SA girl is of course tireless and robust and displays way more BBIQ than APO does (he mainly just regurgitated stats and called people vanilla)

[K...]

playing devil's advocate here, but how does durant fit in with spurs structure? isn't he redundant to kawhi? or does kawhi move to the 2 spot if durant ends up in SA?

think you guys should be targeting conley tbh

conley sucks. Durant is more offense and more length. Imagine Danny Green at the wing but can dribble, finish, and shoot the mid range J.

[nowitzkikopf]

conley sucks. Durant is more offense and more length. Imagine Danny Green at the wing but can dribble, finish, and shoot the mid range J.

i can see that...

PF 1- diaw (?)
PF 2- LMA
SF/SG- Durant
SG/SF- Leonard
PG- Parker (or if you can george hill back on the cheap really...a defensive point fits this iteration of the spurs a lot better)

[dabom]

I swear to god every post you make is to make sure anderson gets more playing time. You're not even trolling and it's not even schetick so you're getting kinda annoying.

I started ignoring the poster a week ago even though every post is a shit post. Like there is something so fucking flawed in her posts but I just stopped bro. :lol

[SAGirl]

Here's how it's gonna go down:

1. Spurs sign Durbeta
2. Kawhi gets pissed off and demands a trade... to the Clippers
3. Spurs = f:lolcked for eternity
4. Spurs move to Seattle

:downspin:
Props this was funny!

[Kawhitstorm]

On a scale from 1 to 10, how much do you like these possible Free Agents this summer for short term deals. I've liked what I have seen from these players and believe they fit with the needs.

1. Jeremy Lin: inconsistent & not very good off the ball ala Porky (Would be a better option than Porker:lol)

2. Evan forunier: Not a great defender (Joe Johnson level) but would be a perfect replacement for Manu if the price is right

3. Ian Mahinmi: STILL foul prone but would be an excellent backup ala Ezeli (will most likely re-sign w/ the Pacers)

4. Luol Deng: Would be a nice fit but there is a log jam at the forward position (Diaw/Kyle/Kawhi/West/LMA)

[SAGirl]

I swear to god every post you make is to make sure anderson gets more playing time. You're not even trolling and it's not even schetick so you're getting kinda annoying.
It is a bit of trolling tbh
Who is taking this thread seriously?

Edit: also didn't mention Anderson... :blah

[gambit1990]

if we can't get durant can we get westbrook? :spin

[dabom]

It is a bit of trolling tbh
Who is taking this thread seriously?

Like this post. A lot of people are taking this thread serious. :lmao

[dabom]

if we can't get durant can we get westbrook? :spin

I'll bust out my 4peet posts under the "heart westbrook" thread. :lol

[Sec24Row7]

conley sucks. Durant is more offense and more length. Imagine Danny Green at the wing but can dribble, finish, and shoot the mid range J.

And that doesn't set screens and stands around watching the ball.

[playbonner15]

Bumping this thread so it can compete vs the Jimmer one :lol

[K...]

if we can't get durant can we get westbrook? :spin

holy shit, doesn't understand contracts or free agency

[gambit1990]

holy shit, doesn't understand contracts or free agency
damn, K is pretty much helen keller. minus any intelligence.

[K...]

damn, K is pretty much helen keller. minus any intelligence.

i'm sure this is funny or insulting, but could you explain?

[Spurtacular]

Have to qualify this as wild rumor for the time being. I don't think we'll hear anything more substantive 'til after OKC is eliminated.

[sasaint]

Zach lowe actually reported a week ago that Pop always asks and always consults his best player about specific moves. They did it with aldridge. Kawhi and the big 3.

Can you imagine Pop going to kawhi

Pop: We're trying to bring in you Rival. I know you dont like each other but we need to. We also have to get rid of your mate danny. I know hes been a perfect fit for you defensively but we need to

Kawhi: Wtf.

Plus, how happy is the "face of the franchise" gonna be as the 3rd highest paid player on the team?

[gambit1990]

I'll bust out my 4peet posts under the "heart westbrook" thread. :lol
just don't bump it now or parker fans will say "you don't know what you're talking about, parker > westbrook"

[313]

Bumping this thread so it can compete vs the Jimmer one :lol
Never went into the Jimmer thread but how did it reach 100 pages? Lol

[SAGirl]

Now i'm pissed that i am not the person leading the pro Kyle trolling.....SA girl is of course tireless and robust and displays way more BBIQ than APO does (he mainly just regurgitated stats and called people vanilla)
Bah I had a good trolling line but resisted bc I have been calling out guys that are on the Anderson hate train and trolling is not my style, despite being called such.

Real trolling lines I thought of were along the lines of yea, why not go with an all forward lineup that has Anderson/Green/Kawhi/Durant/LMA and send Tony to the bench as the bench scorer, or just trade him to make room for Durant?:lol That was the real trolling idea.

The statement that irritated Apo was a very mild statement that you will need guys cheap in the bench and don't need Manu to close games if you have Durant. Chinook even has Durant as a SG. And truly with 3 scorers in the team one of them should shoulder the bench at times to get enough shots.

Personally I think this is it for Timmy and Manu, but that's just a personal belief. It has nothing to do with Durant coming over but if they retire yea, go for it Pop if you think the team will be better. Manu does a whole lot for us and we need a third guy legit to be scoring. I thought to make the team balanced that guy should be a guard, but I am neither pro/nor anti Durant. Ppl have different arguments to make it work and sometimes you get who is available and build around those guys...... so I guess why not? blow up the rest of the team up and remake it. You will need some guys on the cheap of which we have some already and some are coming over allegedly. I don't even know how that irritated Apo. I didn't even mention Anderson, although he's implied in the cheap labor crew.

I did admit that it is a bit of trolling but not bc Anderson, more bc I don't really believe the Spurs will do something like this entire thing.

[spurraider21]

Here's how it's gonna go down:

1. Clippers give Chris Paul another max contract
2. Blake gets pissed off and demands a trade... to the Rockets
3. Clippers get James Harden back in trade
4. Clippers = f:lolcked for eternity

:downspin:

[DAF86]

No chance this happens. Too much of a rivalry between Spurs and Thunder, and Kawhi and Durant.

[rasuo214]

If Manu and Duncan return I would be surprised if the Spurs trade Parker. If one of those 2 or both retire then a Parker trade becomes a lot more likely.

As for Durant, if he wants to come you look for a way to make it work but I don't know if I'd want the Spurs to go out of their way to try and get him.

If we're discussing fantasy scenarios I'd rather trade for Jimmy Butler (doubt the Spurs have what the Bulls want though). If the Big3 retire then sign Conley and Gasol, otherwise look for a decent defensive PG, add another shot blocker/rebounder and a decent SF backup (Barnes/Deng).

The 2nd scenario would be preferred because the 2017 FA class is loaded with quality PGs.

[DAF86]

Ya, Spurs would be fine for him in that regard, but I assume he cares about the perception of his "legacy" and about "leading his own team"..that's something you hear a lot from corny NBA people, as we saw when Lebron joined the Heat:lol

Maybe if they don't make the Finals, this year, he could be viewed as a savior-type..

In the off-season there was a lot of talk about LA picking SA 'cause we lost in the firat round. So if we make it far this year he still gets a lot of credit. Many players think like this unfortunately.

[SpursBig3s]

On a scale from 1 to 10, how much do you like these possible Free Agents this summer for short term deals. I've liked what I have seen from these players and believe they fit with the needs.

1. Jeremy Lin
2. Evan forunier
3. Ian Mahinmi
4. Luol Deng


1. Fournier
2. Lin
3. Mahinmi
4. Deng

Our biggest need is a playmaking off guard/combo guard.

[AFMadison]

Conley
Green
Leonard
Aldridge
M. Gasol

[hooperflash]

Conley
Green
Leonard
Aldridge
M. Gasol

This.

[SouthernFried]

On a scale from 1 to 10, how much do you like these possible Free Agents this summer for short term deals. I've liked what I have seen from these players and believe they fit with the needs.

1. Jeremy Lin
2. Evan forunier
3. Ian Mahinmi
4. Luol Deng

I dunno about anyone else...but, I love Jeremy Lin. How old is he now?

[aal04]

West, Miller, Martin

with possible Pau Gasol, Durant

It is of my opinion that the LMA max contract is the cheapest contract we have ever landed

[freetiago]

Parker Jefferson's contract is destroying all the possibilities tbh. Ideal scenario would be to get Splitter/Durant and find some placeholder guard like a Mario Chalmers.

[HarlemHeat37]

Parker Jefferson's contract is destroying all the possibilities tbh. Ideal scenario would be to get Splitter/Durant and find some placeholder guard like a Mario Chalmers.

:lol

[cutewizard]

omg

[TheCerebral1]

1. Fournier
2. Lin
3. Mahinmi
4. Deng

Our biggest need is a playmaking off guard/combo guard.

1: Fournier
2: No one
3: No one
4: No one

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

He is not coming here. He plays SF, same position as Kawhi. Spurs would have to move to many pieces to get him. It's b/n Washington or OKC. I say Washington b/c he finally gets to play w/ a pass first PG in Wall. Gortat, Morris, Durant, Beal and Wall would be a lineup to rival the Cavs easily. Plus it gets him out of the West and having to play the Spurs, Clippers, or Warriors. Which you are going to get at least two of them just making it to the Finals.

[cutewizard]

scarier would be the five of :

Gasol, LMA, Durant and then Anderson and Kawhi at guards,

that team could be literally.........................UNSTOPPABLE!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[YGWHI]

I'm worried about the D losing Danny in the perimeter against Curry, Harden, Lillard...And with KD-LMA playing at 4-5 against Blake, AD...

But the offense...damn...that would look GREAT.



It's already happened, but would get even more legs with another deep run, but Kawhi is a huge draw for FA's. If you want to win and still get a lot of the credit, there is no player better to team up with than Kawhi.

But Durant knows that LMA didn't get enough credit this year with Kawhi's monster season. All media talk about Kawhi as the best Spurs player.

Even if KD is the main scorer on the team, with Kawhi's game at high level on both ends, people could say KL's still the most valuable/best player.

Does he want to run the risk of being overshadowed by "system player" in the future?

Not sure that KD would be willing to accept that Kawhi gets the same -or even more- credit than him.

Also, he knows that the fans love Kawhi's low-key personality as the second coming a of Tim Duncan...he won't be the only one as the "face of the franchise" and must share it with Kawhi.



Not to mention the ridiculous amount of respect players have for Pop. These guys who are older, but not old (LMA, Durant, etc..) are probably looking long and hard at balancing money and winning. They all just witnessed what happened to Kobe. They are looking for reasons to play under Pop and Pop being the HC of the UMNT is another big advantage.

But if he plays for Pop, he knows he has to make sacrifices. KD saw how LMA stats decreased this season.

Kawhi and LMA would take less shots with Durant on the team, but also Durant wouldn't take the same numbers of shots that he takes on the Thunder.

Is he willing to take less shots, to play less minutes, to be benched in the 4th quarter, to look how his stats decrease? In order to win a ship?


Hopefully, he is. And the Spurs will win it all next seasons. :flag:

[Gervin44Silas13]

who knows....time will tell

I think Durants relationship with the OKC media as of late will force him to leave..
.....him leaving to another team would be his way of saying F U to them !!!

[Chinook]

I responded to everything you said as far as requirements. Your argument is changing now.

Dude, I listed like five different things, and you came back with "What has always defined a guard is the ability to pass, dribble and shoot at a high level." That's just not true. There are PGs who aren't particularly good at at least one of those skills, like Rondo and Mills. Then you try to act like making a pass out of a double team is running the offense.

Durant isn't a PG and can't play one. He running the PnR doesn't change that. Hell, even Green runs it a few times a game, and he drops off passes when he gets pressure. That's how he picks up an assist or two a game. Durant has such a high usage that he'll get more that way than Green does. And he's a better passer. But he's never played PG.

[midnightpulp]

The fact we're playing the Thunder in the next round highly affects things.

1. If we beat the Thunder, KD will obviously be conscious of how him bolting to the "stacked" team that just beat him looks. Think of how Lebron was endlessly criticized for teaming up with Wade and Bosh. I doubt Durant wants that same media backlash.

2. If the Thunder beat us and perform well against GS, then he probably thinks the Thunder roster will eventually be good enough going forward to win a title sometime in the next 3 seasons (provided they upgrade a couple of spots, like their SG rotation).

If the Thunder lost in the 1st round, I could see it happening, but not now. He won't want to take the image hit to his brand by signing with the team that eliminated him. It looks chickenshit, and he and his "people" are conscious of that.

[kuato]

Spurs need Facundo Campazzo !

[NameLess Scrub]

Conley
Green
Leonard
Aldridge
M. Gasol

All injury team? :lol

[Spurs9]

Get rid of everyone, just keep Claw, LMA, Boban and sign Durrant tbh

[NameLess Scrub]

1: Fournier
2: No one
3: No one
4: No one

I love Fournier, and he might be better off the bench, since he seems to do better playing SF, though not sure if it's the way the Magic play.


Idk if it's realistic though.

[I. Hustle]

Get rid of everyone, just keep Claw, LMA, Boban and sign Durrant tbh

What is the obsession with Boban? Yes, I think he is a great garbage time player and a fan favorite BUT that dude has a short shelf life. He is not going to last long in the league. Nothing to do with his talent. It's because of his size. Guys that tall don't last very long. It looks painful now watching him run up and down the court. I can't imagine 3 more years of that. 82 regular season games, preseason and playoffs too?

[wildbill2u]

not happening tbh. i dont think the financials add up unless we were allowed to amnesty tony

Of course it is not my money, so I can tell Holt, "Damn the luxury tax, make the play for Durant and collect a few more rings"

I do not think this will happen, sad to say.

[BatManu20]

Fun to think about but not happening tbh. Bring back the same squad minus Timmy & Manu and + Joakim Noah or Roy Hibbert imo.

[Mnky]

Dude, I listed like five different things, and you came back with "What has always defined a guard is the ability to pass, dribble and shoot at a high level." That's just not true. There are PGs who aren't particularly good at at least one of those skills, like Rondo and Mills. Then you try to act like making a pass out of a double team is running the offense.

Durant isn't a PG and can't play one. He running the PnR doesn't change that. Hell, even Green runs it a few times a game, and he drops off passes when he gets pressure. That's how he picks up an assist or two a game. Durant has such a high usage that he'll get more that way than Green does. And he's a better passer. But he's never played PG.

Whether you like him there or not, he has played the 1 plenty in okc. Which is setting up the plays and being the lead. I said making plays for other players is something he does often because you said he doesn't do that, he just runs into a double and passes.. which is making a play either way.

You can look at any pg in the league on any team that isn't considered a sg, and he is the best ball handler and sets the plays up. The ability to pass dribble and lead a team is the traits you look in your pg, as he will be the main ball handler so you want these skills.

Mills. Everyone knows isn't a good pg for that very reason. He can't make good decisions often and doesn't dribble well. Rondo has been a of on a championship team for that reason. He was a good leader who made good decisions and great passing and could hold the ball for a high volume due to his dribbling.

Of course Durant isn't a pg. That isn't the argument, it was that he can play the one. That doesn't change his position, just like kawhi isn't a pf or a pg because he can guard those positions.

He's run the 1 plenty of times in okc. Whether it fits your opinion or not doesn't change that. Just like pop had Kawhi run the 1 a few times. It's the position relevant to the plays responsibilities, being that the 1 is the player which initiates and leads the play. Thus, the 1 position.

[will_spurs]

He's run the 1 plenty of times in okc. Whether it fits your opinion or not doesn't change that. Just like pop had Kawhi run the 1 a few times. It's the position relevant to the plays responsibilities, being that the 1 is the player which initiates and leads the play. Thus, the 1 position.

So when Parker finishes at the rim he's playing the 5? Kawhi and Durant have never, and will never play the 1.

[Mnky]

So when Parker finishes at the rim he's playing the 5? Kawhi and Durant have never, and will never play the 1.

That doesn't make any sense. Does small ball make Draymond green a center? No. He plays that 5 spot though.

[Mnky]

Traditionally, the 5 basketball positions normally employed by organized basketball teams were the guards, forwards, and the center. While these position names are still used, most modern teams use a point guard, two wings, and two post players, or use no specific positions at all. In order to make sense of the changes in the positional rules, five separate positions are now described: point guard (PG), shooting guard (SG), small forward (SF), power forward (PF), and center (C). The rules of basketball do not mandate them, and they are sometimes not used. Indeed, it could be said that the designation of positions is done more to satisfy broadcasters and fans than for coaches or players, and many top coaches, including Olympic coach Mike Krzyzewski choose to ignore positions altogether.

Wikipedia with the goods.

[FromWayDowntown]

I don't think this whole thing has any realistic chance of happening, but ultimately, with a talent like Durant, you take the chance and figure out how to make the pieces fit. You don't say no to Durant because he isn't the prototypical this or that or because you think there's some positional conflict. You get him and then you make it work because your big 3 are perfectly suited to play any style - big or small, fast or slow.

[Chinook]

Wikipedia with the goods.

That doesn't support your point at all.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

I don't think this whole thing has any realistic chance of happening, but ultimately, with a talent like Durant, you take the chance and figure out how to make the pieces fit. You don't say no to Durant because he isn't the prototypical this or that or because you think there's some positional conflict. You get him and then you make it work because your big 3 are perfectly suited to play any style - big or small, fast or slow.

The position point is overblown imo - it's clear either Durant or Kawhi would have to play the 4 against the main rivals. They may insert a placeholder like a D West or a min type of big to start the games and spare some wear and tear on Durant during the regular season, but there'd be no doubt he'd be a 4 in crunch time and when it matters most.

[elemento]

If Durant is willing to sign, you do whatever it takes to do it and think about fit/system later. And it's not like that one of the best shooters in the NBA would have a hard time to fit.

The biggest problem is that Durant signing here means that he won't be fighting for scoring titles anymore, he will fight for rings. But it also means a more team-oriented style (less ISOs) and less individual accolades. If he is ok with that, WELCOME. Otherwise, don't even bother.

[TheGreatYacht]

Just read a page and saw some posters called Durant a chucker :lol

One of the most efficient players in the league... shoots a lot. Wow that's so bad :sleep

[Chinook]

Whether you like him there or not, he has played the 1 plenty in okc. Which is setting up the plays and being the lead. I said making plays for other players is something he does often because you said he doesn't do that, he just runs into a double and passes.. which is making a play either way.

... Is this really what you think PGs do?


You can look at any pg in the league on any team that isn't considered a sg, and he is the best ball handler and sets the plays up. The ability to pass dribble and lead a team is the traits you look in your pg, as he will be the main ball handler so you want these skills.

So you're completely leaving off shooting. That's progress. But this "that isn't considered a sg" talk is just you trying to get out of your narrow definition. Beverly isn't consider a two-guard, yet he's not the best ball-handler on his team. Same with George Hill. Or Kyrie. Hell, Curry only just became a supreme ball-handler the last couple of years. Even now, Livingston and Iggy are better at running the offense.


Mills. Everyone knows isn't a good pg for that very reason. He can't make good decisions often and doesn't dribble well. Rondo has been a of on a championship team for that reason. He was a good leader who made good decisions and great passing and could hold the ball for a high volume due to his dribbling.

So now we're talking about who's a "good" PG. We're making more progress. Patty is a good PG so long as he's allowed to focus on shooting. He can run some plays in a pinch, but he relies on the Spurs' all being able to find their way through the offense without his guidance. No argument here. He's still a PG, and the only time he stops being one is when he's next to Parker.


Of course Durant isn't a pg. That isn't the argument, it was that he can play the one. That doesn't change his position, just like kawhi isn't a pf or a pg because he can guard those positions.

According to you, Kawhi can be either of those, as he can post up and pass. Durant has NEVER EVER played the one. Ever. Not for a second in the NBA. Can he run a play? Sure. Can he iso and pass out of doubles? Sure. You know who else can do that? A ton of other players including all 15 Spurs. You wouldn't say Danny Green can play PG, but 1) he's actually logged minutes at that position in the NBA before, 2) He's run his share of plays, drawn defenders and then kicked the ball to open men.


He's run the 1 plenty of times in okc. Whether it fits your opinion or not doesn't change that. Just like pop had Kawhi run the 1 a few times. It's the position relevant to the plays responsibilities, being that the 1 is the player which initiates and leads the play. Thus, the 1 position.

You're the one with the subjective evaluation. You won't find any source out that that says Durant played PG. Seriously, do you not understand the difference between running a play and playing PG? The Thunder or Spurs would never run a lineup with Durant as the best (and especially only decent) ball-handler and tell him to bring the ball up, get guys to their spots and set up his teammates. They wouldn't tell him to cross-match with PGs on the other side unless those were the weakest player for him to hide on. They would tell him to score if at all possible and to give the ball up if he can't. That's being a star perimeter player, not being a PG.

[Horse]

I hate that pussy but a defering fag like him would fit in nicely.

[Obstructed_View]

So do we anticipate that the Spurs will have cap room for another max contract? I need to know so I can start photoshopping my Lebron Spurs jersey.

[Chinook]

So do we anticipate that the Spurs will have cap room for another max contract? I need to know so I can start photoshopping my Lebron Spurs jersey.

They can, but they almost certainly won't. It will either cost Parker or Green and Diaw. And it will require everyone opting out and letting Boban go without a QO.

[Mnky]

That doesn't support your point at all.

It points out how fans use them to make sense of the game but they don't exactly exist as position. They're simply place holders for devising rules, plays, and schemes.

Being the "one" who starts the plays is the 1 in demonstrating to a team the function and responsibility of each other player. Like I said before, your opinion doesnt change the reality of the organization of basketball. Playing a position doesn't mean that's your defined role position on a team, it's simply scheme. Much like I said before on the defensive end. You can have players withe exceptional ability play/defend different positions but it doesn't make them a center or pg. The same for those who take turns playing positions on offense. Manu is a sg but has played pg for years for the spurs. Durant has played a very similar role.

[timtonymanurich]

1) Parker
2) Kawhi
3) KD
4) LAM
5) Gasol

SICKEST LINEUP IN THE LAST 20 YEARS OF THE NBA and for the next 3-5.

One can dream...

[Canyonero]

IT'S HAPPENING

[Obstructed_View]

They can, but they almost certainly won't. It will either cost Parker or Green and Diaw. And it will require everyone opting out and letting Boban go without a QO.

Eff that, tbh.

[Mister Sinister]

IT'S HAPPENING

http://i.imgur.com/7drHiqr.gif

[BillMc]

http://i.imgur.com/7drHiqr.gif

:lol

[Mal]

If OKC wins series vs Spurs this year, Durant is not coming here. If Spurs win, we can start talking about such possibility

[SD126]

It's NOT happening.

[TampaDude]

Obligatory league=f:lolcked if this happens... Durant, Leonard, and Aldridge front court...

But yeah, it's not happening. He's either staying or going to Washington.

KD is going home to DC. Book it.

[SupremeGuy]

Getting rid of Porker and adding Durant :lol

We can dream...

[kaji157]

1) Green
2) Kawhi
3) KD
4) LAM
5) Gasol

SICKEST LINEUP IN THE LAST 20 YEARS OF THE NBA and for the next 3-5.

One can dream...

[TheDoctor]

KD is going home to DC. Book it.

I'm sure the Wizards signed Scott Brooks with this in mind. What I'm not sure is if Durant wants to play a 2nd time for Brooks.

[Mister Sinister]

It's NOT happening.

http://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/It+s+not+happening+half+life+3+unconfirmed_2708f4_ 4656469.gif

[CGD]

If you believe the recent reporting, including that around the bad visit he had in DC when the thunder played in the Wiz, it sounds like KD has no desire to play at home. I doubt he goes to the Wiz. If he wants to bolt from OKC it'll be to the Warriors whose cap situation is surprising favorable. We'll be a close second.

Whether it's good for the Spurs is another question. I don't know where I come out yet. I suppose the vision is to start KD at the 2 ala Peja or Hedo back in the day, and when the Spurs need to play small they slide him to the 3 and Leonard to the 4.

[cutewizard]

What is the obsession with Boban? Yes, I think he is a great garbage time player and a fan favorite BUT that dude has a short shelf life. He is not going to last long in the league. Nothing to do with his talent. It's because of his size. Guys that tall don't last very long. It looks painful now watching him run up and down the court. I can't imagine 3 more years of that. 82 regular season games, preseason and playoffs too?


-------------------------------------------

Jabbar lasted a long time, so why not Boban???

[CGD]

If OKC wins series vs Spurs this year, Durant is not coming here. If Spurs win, we can start talking about such possibility

I think this is right, especially now with the injuries to the Clips and Warriors. If ever things are lining up for the Thunder it's now, so how frustrating to lose out yet again (and to the Spurs).

[AFMadison]

All injury team? :lol
Probably the greatest defense of all time

[I. Hustle]

-------------------------------------------

Jabbar lasted a long time, so why not Boban???

For one, not everyone is the same. Boban looks like he has some form of gigantism which is hell on their bones. Jabbar seemed more comfortable in his size. Like I said, it looks painful when Boban runs. I would LOVE to be wrong though.

[NameLess Scrub]

For one, not everyone is the same. Boban looks like he has some form of gigantism which is hell on their bones. Jabbar seemed more comfortable in his size. Like I said, it looks painful when Boban runs. I would LOVE to be wrong though.

I think the same. Shaq was like a 7'2" monster too, but he looks natural in it.

Boban is more on the Yao, Manute, Muresan category. He's too big and seems to have gigantism.

[in2deep]

:lmao what

Boban is 27. he can easily play 5 more years at a high level.how the fuck is that a bad thing?

most NBA players drop off at 35. so if he drops off a couple years earlier, all of a sudden he is a bust?????

:lmao idiots

[Chinook]

:lmao what

Boban is 27. he can easily play 5 more years at a high level.how the fuck is that a bad thing?

most NBA players drop off at 35. so if he drops off a couple years earlier, all of a sudden he is a bust?????

:lmao idiots

Do you know what acromegaly is and how it affects a body's durability? There's a reason why there aren't more 7-3 guys in the league now, and it's not because of them not being able to learn skills

[hater]

Do you know what acromegaly is and how it affects a body's durability? There's a reason why there aren't more 7-3 guys in the league now, and it's not because of them not being able to learn skills

Marc eaton was as gigantic as they come and has a pretty amazing career tbh

I dont ser why Boban cant even hace 1/3 of that career....

Also we are not talking about a 1st round pick. Boban wasn't even drafted. Wake the fuck up ppl :lol

[tmtcsc]

I think the same. Shaq was like a 7'2" monster too, but he looks natural in it.


You know what doesn't look natural? Shaq wearing a suit. Dude looks like he's going to explode from the Diabetes.

[NameLess Scrub]

You know what doesn't look natural? Shaq wearing a suit. Dude looks like he's going to explode from the Diabetes.

He does seem too overweight recently.

He even said in his podcast that he was suffering sleep apnea and had to eat better, and I haven't seen him drop weight.

Dude needs to be more responsible.

[TheGreatYacht]

Let's get this shit to 100 pages

[Kawhitstorm]

1) Parker
2) Kawhi
3) KD
4) LAM
5) Gasol

SICKEST LINEUP IN THE LAST 20 YEARS OF THE NBA and for the next 3-5.

One can dream...

Nash
Finley
Jamison
Walker
Dirk

That lineup got bounced in the 1st rd (2004).

[hater]

:lol Finley Jamison and walker

R u serious???