official:2016 dallas cowboys war room draft thread

[Trill Clinton]

cowboys big board for#4 pick
1. jalen ramsey-S- florida state*
2. joey bosa-DE- ohio state
3. deforest buckner-DE-oregon
4. myles jack-LB- ucla
5. ezekial elliott-RB- ohio state

http://i65.tinypic.com/t9bjfm.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEzh51EHvdU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia11VIg-Xrk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOKO9to_D9M
leemajors slick'81 DJR210 BatManu20 td4mvp2k SpursforSix SupremeGuy LkrFan Chris

[Trill Clinton]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FFKyKLHwDw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuNMK-OMEX0

[DJR210]

As long as Jerry is limited to a spectator role in the war room im good..

This should be the 4th solid draft in the last 5 years as long as they dont draft another Claiborne.

[LkrFan]

Good threead fam. I'm in the minority, but I am on the Zeke Elliott train, if Ramsey is gone. He is a perfect fit behind our OL. We'd pick right back up from we left off when we were cheated in 2014.

[leemajors]

I've read in several places Jack is off the Boys' board after his medical recheck.

[SupremeGuy]

I still think we should trade back...

any updates on DLaw?

[Trill Clinton]

we're not trading back fam. we won't be in this position(hopefully) in quite some time so we need to get an elite talent this high in the draft.

jerry speaks on d law here: http://dal.247sports.com/Bolt/Jerry-Jones-confirms-DeMarcus-Lawrence-suspension-draft-impact-45005339

[SpursforSix]

Good threead fam. I'm in the minority, but I am on the Zeke Elliott train, if Ramsey is gone. He is a perfect fit behind our OL. We'd pick right back up from we left off when we were cheated in 2014.

I'm leaning the same way.

[Trill Clinton]

I've read in several places Jack is off the Boys' board after his medical recheck.

sucks if true. jack was my guy up until he passed on the combine. a jack-mcclain-lee lb corehttp://i63.tinypic.com/207qe8h.png

[leemajors]

sucks if true. jack was my guy up until he passed on the combine. a jack-mcclain-lee lb corehttp://i63.tinypic.com/207qe8h.png

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2016/4/25/11498926/report-cowboys-not-interested-in-myles-jack-after-medical-update

[SupremeGuy]

If our entire D line wasn't suspended I'd say take Ramsey or Zeke, but shit man we're pretty fucked up front. Kind of in a shitty position.

[td4mvp2k]

gr8 board just glad no QB :tu

[chunticakes]

I don't get why guys want to draft Elliott @ 4. We got rid of Murray and refused to sign any high end FA tailbacks. We'd essentially be paying more for Elliott than Murray or Miller if we draft him that high. Not to mention next year's RB class is gonna be insane. If Elliott were to come out next year he'd go after Fournette and Chubb.

[DPG21920]

sucks if true. jack was my guy up until he passed on the combine. a jack-mcclain-lee lb corehttp://i63.tinypic.com/207qe8h.png

At what point can you stop counting on Lee? He has not made it through a season healthy.

[SupremeGuy]

At what point can you stop counting on Lee? He has not made it through a season healthy.He played more than Romo or Dez last year. I have more faith in him than I have in Romo, tbh.

[Obstructed_View]

I don't get why guys want to draft Elliott @ 4. We got rid of Murray and refused to sign any high end FA tailbacks. We'd essentially be paying more for Elliott than Murray or Miller if we draft him that high. Not to mention next year's RB class is gonna be insane. If Elliott were to come out next year he'd go after Fournette and Chubb.

He's also a guy who takes a lot of punishment. Seems like a big investment for a couple years of production, where you could take another good lineman and have any back average 3 yards a carry for the next decade if you can keep the group together.

[Trill Clinton]

At what point can you stop counting on Lee?

never

[Trill Clinton]

some other prospects we might be looking at in the 2nd round.

karl joseph- S- west virginia. his name is starting to ring bells so i would be suprised if he makes it out of the 1st. i have him as the 2nd best S after ramsey.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdCnbZsIG8s

a'shawn robinson-dt-alabama


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn1Okg3Qr04

vernon butler-dt-la tech


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgOxjWwxtVo

[Trill Clinton]

kendall fuller-cb-virginia tech


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U49edy5z0wQ

[Trill Clinton]

alex collins'beastmode jr'-rb-arkansas


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQYGCnLJuC0

[Trill Clinton]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVcySol1Aqc

[DJR210]

If our entire D line wasn't suspended I'd say take Ramsey or Zeke, but shit man we're pretty fucked up front. Kind of in a shitty position.

:lol

[DJR210]

I definitely want an RB with as much as I don't like McFadden as our starting RB next year, but not sure I want to see the Cowboys use the 4th overall on him..

[leemajors]

I definitely want an RB with as much as I don't like McFadden as our starting RB next year, but not sure I want to see the Cowboys use the 4th overall on him..

yeah, this.

[DPG21920]

So no Cowboy fans want a legit stud WR to pair with Dez? Dallas has an awful receiving core (as you saw when Dez went out) and I think that is the biggest hole. Dallas got by with guys like Dunbar, etc.. Pretty well and while a RB would be great, Dez needs help and that would open things up so much for Dallas.

[leemajors]

So no Cowboy fans want a legit stud WR to pair with Dez? Dallas has an awful receiving core (as you saw when Dez went out) and I think that is the biggest hole. Dallas got buy with guys like Dunbar, etc.. Pretty well and while a RB would be great, Dez needs help and that would open things up so much for Dallas.

I don't think you go for that at 4.

[DJR210]

So no Cowboy fans want a legit stud WR to pair with Dez? Dallas has an awful receiving core (as you saw when Dez went out) and I think that is the biggest hole. Dallas got by with guys like Dunbar, etc.. Pretty well and while a RB would be great, Dez needs help and that would open things up so much for Dallas.

Terrance Williams is still improving, he has each year. Dont sleep on him because we had nobody capable of finding him last year.

[DPG21920]

Terrance Williams is still improving, he has each year. Dont sleep on him because we had nobody capable of finding him last year.

I'm not impressed with Williams at all. He shrunk big time IMO. He couldn't get loose without Dez on the other side regardless of who was throwing.

I think he's a decent WR3 at best. Dez needs his 1b. He's never had it and I think it would be massive for the offense. I know it's not the norm to take a WR that high, but damn, I think the Cowboys need a truly gifted WR besides Dez.

[chunticakes]

I keep hearing about Dallas wanting to move their 34 to get back in the first. They're supposedly eyeing Lynch. He may be falling...

[Holden_Caulfield]

I keep hearing about Dallas wanting to move their 34 to get back in the first. They're supposedly eyeing Lynch. He may be falling...
zeke and lynch. two yuuugeeee reach :lol

[DJR210]

I'm not impressed with Williams at all. He shrunk big time IMO. He couldn't get loose without Dez on the other side regardless of who was throwing.

I think he's a decent WR3 at best. Dez needs his 1b. He's never had it and I think it would be massive for the offense. I know it's not the norm to take a WR that high, but damn, I think the Cowboys need a truly gifted WR besides Dez.

I agree, but strange thing is last season he had his highs in targets, rec, and yards.. However, he wasn't a deep threat and only scored 3 times compared to as his career high of 8 TD's.. His route running was improved last season, but he's not gonna shine with bus drivers behind center.

[DJR210]

IIRC, last season Trill Clinton called Byron Jones as the first pick.. Who you got this year?

[Chris]

I got them picking Ramsey

[DPG21920]

I'm going Elliott. Dallas has been very good lately drafting in a disciplined manner. With the injuries and disappointing season, I think they go for the big name.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Cowboys need defense not offense. They were last in takeaways and barely got any pressure last season. LMAO cowboys had a top 5 run game with McFadden last year they don't need a running g back now that they got Alfred Morris.

[DPG21920]

Cowboys need defense not offense. They were last in takeaways and barely got any pressure last season. LMAO cowboys had a top 5 run game with McFadden last year they don't need a running g back now that they got Alfred Morris.

I totally forgot about Morris. I don't know that they are sold on him any more than they were on McFadden, etc..still think the Cowboys like big names and seems about time they go back to doing what they do and going for the name. Hope not.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

I totally forgot about Morris. I don't know that they are sold on him any more than they were on McFadden, etc..still think the Cowboys like big names and seems about time they go back to doing what they do and going for the name. Hope not.

I hope they go with Ramsey or take a chance on bosa

[DPG21920]

DPGstrodomus

[Chris]

Hopefully we can find some defensive gems in the later rounds. I hope I'm wrong about Elliott

[Chris]

WaG2JDF-CSw

[raybies]

Wish they could of got bosa but hopefully Elliott pans out.

[DJR210]

I don't really care for RB at 4.. If he doesnt step in and one, win the starting job, and two, rush for at least 1200 yards behind that line, he's a bust IMO.

He should fit in nicely with the Dallas culture though, cobsidering he likes to publically blame his coaching staff for losses :tu If we're lucky he'll be a cleptomaniac too.

[SpursforSix]

I don't really care for RB at 4.. If he doesnt step in and one, win the starting job, and two, rush for at least 1200 yards behind that line, he's a bust IMO.

He should fit in nicely with the Dallas culture though, cobsidering he likes to publically blame his coaching staff for losses :tu If we're lucky he'll be a cleptomaniac too.

I was kind of hoping they'd pick Zeke. That being said, unless he's spectacular, I don't know that he improves the team that much over what they have. It's not like the RB committee was awful. With Romo hurt and Dez out, they were easier to defend.

[DPG21920]

No credit for that call doe? Damn tough crowd I saidddddd

[Avante]

Elliott is the best back to enter the draft in years, he is the total package and will make an instant impact, a dramatic one. Now there's Romo in third and two. They have a stud to protect a lead and run out the clock, and he can catch and block.A chain mover.

Might be the pick of the draft.

[chunticakes]

Elliott is the best back to enter the draft in years, he is the total package and will make an instant impact, a dramatic one. Now there's Romo in third and two. They have a stud to protect a lead and run out the clock, and he can catch and block.A chain mover.

Might be the pick of the draft.

Love the player, hate the pick. They should've traded back and gotten an extra pick, IMO.

[Avante]

Love the player, hate the pick. They should've traded back and gotten an extra pick, IMO.

Think of when the Cowboys have had their best seasons, what did they have?

[Chris]

No credit for that call doe? Damn tough crowd I saidddddd

It was a coin toss 50/50 Elliott or Ramsey cmon man :lol

[Chris]

Think of when the Cowboys have had their best seasons, what did they have?

Last time we drafted a good RB in the first round was 1990. Before that? 1977. 26 years later, we're crossing our fingers. I would have preferred Ramsey, but I would love to be wrong.

[DPG21920]

It was a coin toss 50/50 Elliott or Ramsey cmon man :lol

Please. No one in here was calling Elliott at all.

[Chris]

Please. No one in here was calling Elliott at all.

Lot of guys calling Zeke on the first page bruh

[DPG21920]

Lot of guys calling Zeke on the first page bruh

Nah, a couple said they like Zeke, but no one called Dallas taking him. In fact, everyone pretty much seemed to agree that no way Dallas takes him at 4 even though people liked him as a player.

[DPG21920]

Well, Dallas has Romo, Dez & Elliott and a great o-line. If healthy that offense should be something dangerous. I still think they can use a truly talented legit 2nd WR, but we will see.

[pgardn]

Elliott is the best back to enter the draft in years, he is the total package and will make an instant impact, a dramatic one. Now there's Romo in third and two. They have a stud to protect a lead and run out the clock, and he can catch and block.A chain mover.

Might be the pick of the draft.

Cowboy fan is now F'd.

[Avante]

Cowboy fan is now F'd.

The last RB I bragged on won the Heisman. Do you ever get anything right?

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=236341&page=8&p=8405401#post8405401

[Avante]

Last time we drafted a good RB in the first round was 1990. Before that? 1977. 26 years later, we're crossing our fingers. I would have preferred Ramsey, but I would love to be wrong.

Kid has "special' oozing out of every pour.

[leemajors]

Kid has "special' oozing out of every pour.

pour of?

[leemajors]

Boys should get someone pretty good with 2nd pick - Trill Clinton you want Jack here?

[Spurs9]

:cry why didn't they go ramsey :cry

[DPG21920]

Boys should get someone pretty good with 2nd pick - Trill Clinton you want Jack here?

If he's available I think they have too.

[leemajors]

If he's available I think they have too.

there's some good DT's in there too though, we'll see. Maybe they can get Ridgeway in the 3rd

[Blake]

Lol Cowboys blowing their load on a skill position that's a dime a dozen.

Jerry just can't help himself. :lol

[Trill Clinton]

Boys should get someone pretty good with 2nd pick - Trill Clinton you want Jack here?

I'd strongly consider it if the teams doctors say he'll play week 1. I like billings and ogba too, though. There are some good d lineman available still.

[BatManu20]

Not crazy about the Zeke pick tbh. Like the player a lot, but unless he's Adrian Peterson, taking a RB in the top 4 is just not smart imo. But whatever, he's a Cowboy now so I hope he tears it up and I'm sure he'll be great behind that OL.

Absolutely have to go DL with our next pick though imo. A'Shawn Robinson, Emmanuel Ogbah, or Noah Spence (unlikely) should be the pick. Myles Jack's knee must be a lot worse than initially believed if this many teams are passing on him.

[BatManu20]

Kevin Dodd is another option. He worries me though cause he's a one-year wonder.

Also wouldn't be completely shocked if we went CB, but we really need DL help in a bad way.

[BatManu20]

CBS Sports gave the Cowboys a D grade for picking Zeke, the worst grade of the first round. Not that it means anything, js.

[Blake]

Cowboys need d line in a bad way

[leemajors]

Cowboys need d line in a bad way

Shouldn't be a problem to pick up a few in the next few rounds.

[Raven]

cowboyz :lmao

[Avante]

Look at the Cowboys when they had...

Don Perkins
Calvin Hill
Tony Dorsett
Emmitt Smith

....then look at them without that stud RB.

Elliott is a fantastic player, a special athlete as we will be seeing come Sept, He will walk in and make an instant impact. There is no other back in the draft remotely close to his skill set.


Great pick~~~~~

[SpursforSix]

Lol Cowboys blowing their load on a skill position that's a dime a dozen.

Jerry just can't help himself. :lol

That's funny coming from an Eagle fan. DimeArco Murray

[DPG21920]

I'd strongly consider it if the teams doctors say he'll play week 1. I like billings and ogba too, though. There are some good d lineman available still.

How do you feel about the Elliott pick? Both in terms of value & how he impacts them regardless of draft spot?

[Trill Clinton]

How do you feel about the Elliott pick? Both in terms of value & how he impacts them regardless of draft spot?

i'm okay with it. it was either him or ramsey and as we got closer to the draft, the elliott buzz got louder. most of the mocks had him going to us at 4 or to the giants...i heard baltimore was trying to trade up to snag him as well.

he is by far the best back in the draft and has all the tools needed to thrive in this offense. if we commit to the run like we did 2 years ago, he will become an impact player from day 1.

[manufan10]

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[Blake]

That's funny coming from an Eagle fan. DimeArco Murray

Lol the Eagles are just as stupid.

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[Raven]

Look at the Cowboys when they had...

Don Perkins
Calvin Hill
Tony Dorsett
Emmitt Smith

....then look at them without that stud RB.

Elliott is a fantastic player, a special athlete as we will be seeing come Sept, He will walk in and make an instant impact. There is no other back in the draft remotely close to his skill set.


Great pick~~~~~
that's irrelevant.. rams got a stud rb and yet regressed massively from the year before.

[IceColdBrewski]

A RB at #4? Good job Jerry. :lol

But I guess that's what happens when you let the Eagles trade up ahead of you to take the QB you wanted.

[Avante]

that's irrelevant.. rams got a stud rb and yet regressed massively from the year before.

What's irrelevant is talking the Rams in a Cowboys thread.

[clambake]

they should take derrick henry with their next pick.

[Trill Clinton]

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[Blake]

Damn. A day late millions of dollars short.

[Spurs9]

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[Raven]

:lol

[leemajors]

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leemajors http://i64.tinypic.com/2dce1pj.png

Damn

[leemajors]

Uhh Lee had his knee scoped yesterday

[DPG21920]

Can someone make sense of the Dallas draft strategy after the first round??

[Obstructed_View]

No credit for that call doe? Damn tough crowd I saidddddd

Conventional wisdom had Luck_The_Fakers and Bosa as the top picks for the Cowboys. With Bosa gone, why would you want credit for predicting the most obvious choice?

[Obstructed_View]

Can someone make sense of the Dallas draft strategy after the first round??

I guess if Jaylon Smith turns out to be an all-pro, we'll forget about it, but drafting for the future when all the signs pointed to being in win-now mode puzzles me a bit as well. Having a backup quarterback at least gives them a chance not to shit the season away when Romo gets hurt again.

[Obstructed_View]

he is by far the best back in the draft and has all the tools needed to thrive in this offense. if we commit to the run like we did 2 years ago, he will become an impact player from day 1.

Agreed. Nine-minute drives at the end of games will take a lot of pressure off their poor defense.

[Trill Clinton]

shango's reaction to the elliott pick


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZhUNlw5NqY

[JoeTait75]

I don't think Zeke is a spectacular runner along the lines of Adrian Peterson or someone like that. His calling card is his versatility. He can catch, he is a willing and able blocker- he'll never have to leave the field. He's a rich man's Matt Forte.

[DPG21920]

I don't think Zeke is a spectacular runner along the lines of Adrian Peterson or someone like that. His calling card is his versatility. He can catch, he is a willing and able blocker- he'll never have to leave the field. He's a rich man's Matt Forte.

If that is true, that is a damn good pick. AP makes lines and offenses. But if you give a young, more talented Forte a league best line and solid passing game? That is going to be a straight up nightmare offense if true.

[pgardn]

DeMarco Murray haunts them.

****** is supposed to supply this and more. I think he does except for the power aspect. And he is a rookie. Cowboy fan expects instant impact. 4 games with a week D and a rookie with weight on his shoulders... It's possible they will be off to a less than stellar start. This will allow for the team idiots Jerry has coveted to come to the forefront. I kinda like the possibility of Dez yelling at ******, and anyone else who is vulnerable, early in the year. Jerrah too... gotta have the drama for the traveling circus.

[SpursforSix]

I guess if Jaylon Smith turns out to be an all-pro, we'll forget about it, but drafting for the future when all the signs pointed to being in win-now mode puzzles me a bit as well. Having a backup quarterback at least gives them a chance not to shit the season away when Romo gets hurt again.

Agreed. It doesn't make much sense in light of everything they've said about Tony's window closing. Maybe Jerry is trying to set them up for one more bad year and another high draft pick.

[DPG21920]

If Romo (huge IF) and Dez are healthy, I don't see how Dallas isn't a playoff team.

[Avante]

Elliott is a fantastic runner and at 6-1 225 pounds the total package, kid can catch the bal, and will stick his nose in there to block. We will see an instant and dramatic impact made by this kid.

Great move by the Cowboys who do their best work when they have a stud RB.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6IyRfht4Xk

How could anyone who knows the game not see what is going on there? Big, fast, powerful and elusive, what more is there?

Emmitt Smith also only played three seasons of college ball.

5.6 avg/37 tds

EE.....6.7/44

[Chris]

NVNMRLAs-U0

[Chris]

Avante is right this kid is oozing special. Cowboys hands were tied; they had to take him. They didn't want another Randy Moss incident.

[DPG21920]

In thinking about it more, the Cowboys were the perfect fit. Normally, it sucks taking RB's high in the draft. Short careers, risks and big money. However, most teams that are in that spot have so many holes, the RB fizzles out and the risk is greater because the team needs so much.

The Cowboys were artificially this bad. Romo hurt. Dez hurt. Cowboys have the best oline in the league probably so that puts them in a spot to maximize the impact of a RB immediately which is a huge part of making a young back successful.

[Raven]

I don't think Zeke is a spectacular runner along the lines of Adrian Peterson or someone like that. His calling card is his versatility. He can catch, he is a willing and able blocker- he'll never have to leave the field. He's a rich man's Matt Forte.

Matt Forte >>>> Adrian Peterson

[Raven]

In thinking about it more, the Cowboys were the perfect fit. Normally, it sucks taking RB's high in the draft. Short careers, risks and big money. However, most teams that are in that spot have so many holes, the RB fizzles out and the risk is greater because the team needs so much.

The Cowboys were artificially this bad. Romo hurt. Dez hurt. Cowboys have the best oline in the league probably so that puts them in a spot to maximize the impact of a RB immediately which is a huge part of making a young back successful.

all the more reasons to invest in D

[Obstructed_View]

If Romo (huge IF) and Dez are healthy, I don't see how Dallas isn't a playoff team.

If Elliott and that offensive line can't keep Romo's jersey clean for 16 games, then Dallas doesn't deserve to be a playoff team.

[leemajors]

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2016/5/2/11548376/cowboys-2016-draft-breaking-down-darius-jacksons-game-film

[jimbo]

Surprised Avante isn't gushing over Rico Gathers. Dude is ridiculously big and athletic.

[DJR210]

Kid has "special' oozing out of every pour.

http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_content_width/hash/39/f5/1371077694_4304_pouring_beer.jpg?itok=veDpawDw