true or false, this person belongs in the women's restroom

[TheSanityAnnex]

http://storage.canoe.com/v1/dynamic_resize/?size=298&quality=80&src=http%3A%2F%2Fstorage.torontosun.com%2Fv1%2Fsun s-prod-images%2F1297531163349_ORIGINAL.jpg%3Fquality%3D80

Simple true or false. Should be easy.

[Blake]

Which one does he/she want to use?

[MultiTroll]

Which one does he/she want to use?
Are you applying for a City / County job opening of Perverts Rights Code Enforcement Level 5?

[Blake]

Are you applying for a City / County job opening of Perverts Rights Code Enforcement Level 5?

I'm not the one that wants to check genitals at the bathroom door, dumbfuck. That's you.

[MultiTroll]

I'm not the one that wants to check genitals at the bathroom door, dumbfuck. That's you.
Pervs are welcome at Blakes Bathrooms. Got it.

Hey are you gonna answer TSAs question?

[TheSanityAnnex]

Which one does he/she want to use?

He wants to use the women's by claiming transgendered. Does he belong in the women's restroom?

[MultiTroll]

http://storage.canoe.com/v1/dynamic_resize/?size=298&quality=80&src=http%3A%2F%2Fstorage.torontosun.com%2Fv1%2Fsun s-prod-images%2F1297531163349_ORIGINAL.jpg%3Fquality%3D80

cousins?
http://mlb.mlb.com/images/0/3/4/26523034/fran-large_n0zvb9es.jpg

[Blake]

Pervs are welcome at Blakes Bathrooms. Got it.

Hey are you gonna answer TSAs question?

Where did I say pervs are welcome?

Are you gonna fill out your job application for genital checker?

[Blake]

He wants to use the women's by claiming transgendered. Does he belong in the women's restroom?

Fine with me.

[MultiTroll]

Where did I say pervs are welcome?

Are you gonna fill out your job application for genital checker?
No.
I already work as Bitchslapper Of Wannabe Molesters Level 10

[DMC]

Those eyebrows belong on a catalpa tree.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Where did I say pervs are welcome?

Right here


Fine with me.http://storage.canoe.com/v1/dynamic_resize/?size=298&quality=80&src=http%3A%2F%2Fstorage.torontosun.com%2Fv1%2Fsun s-prod-images%2F1297531163349_ORIGINAL.jpg%3Fquality%3D80


http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/webkit-fake-url://d3ee460d-e39b-4555-a7fb-66ca7d2ad29e/imagejpeg
A sexual predator who falsely claimed to be transgender and preyed on women at two Toronto shelters was jailed indefinitely on Wednesday.
Justice John McMahon declared Christopher Hambrook — who claimed to be a transgender woman named Jessica — was a dangerous offender.
He noted the Montreal man, 37, attacked four vulnerable females between the ages of five and 53 in Montreal and Toronto over the past 12 years.
“He has demonstrated from the age of 12 until the present an inability to control his sexual impulses,” said McMahon.
Hambrook served four years in prison for sexually abusing a five-year-old girl and while on bail for that crime, raping a 27-year-old intellectually-challenged woman in Montreal.


Hambrook pleaded guilty in February 2013 to two counts of sexual assault and one count of criminal harassment involving two women — a deaf and homeless Quebec woman and a Toronto survivor of domestic violence — while he was living at a Dundas St. W. shelter and the Fred Victor women’s shelter in January and February 2012.

[Avante]

false

[Blake]

Right here

http://storage.canoe.com/v1/dynamic_resize/?size=298&quality=80&src=http%3A%2F%2Fstorage.torontosun.com%2Fv1%2Fsun s-prod-images%2F1297531163349_ORIGINAL.jpg%3Fquality%3D80


http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/webkit-fake-url://d3ee460d-e39b-4555-a7fb-66ca7d2ad29e/imagejpeg
A sexual predator who falsely claimed to be transgender and preyed on women at two Toronto shelters was jailed indefinitely on Wednesday.
Justice John McMahon declared Christopher Hambrook — who claimed to be a transgender woman named Jessica — was a dangerous offender.
He noted the Montreal man, 37, attacked four vulnerable females between the ages of five and 53 in Montreal and Toronto over the past 12 years.
“He has demonstrated from the age of 12 until the present an inability to control his sexual impulses,” said McMahon.
Hambrook served four years in prison for sexually abusing a five-year-old girl and while on bail for that crime, raping a 27-year-old intellectually-challenged woman in Montreal.


Hambrook pleaded guilty in February 2013 to two counts of sexual assault and one count of criminal harassment involving two women — a deaf and homeless Quebec woman and a Toronto survivor of domestic violence — while he was living at a Dundas St. W. shelter and the Fred Victor women’s shelter in January and February 2012.





So you want him in the bathroom with you?

Why be disingenuous? He doesn't belong out in society at all.

[Xevious]

So you want him in the bathroom with you?

Why be disingenuous? He doesn't belong out in society at all.
Yes. I'd rather he be in the bathroom with me than with my wife and/or two daughters. Agreed that sexual predators do not belong in society, but they are. I personally don't give a shit what genitalia is or isn't dangling between your legs when you are in the bathroom with me. But if all a dude has to do is lie to gain access to a women's restroom, that's where I start to have a problem. Nobody can (nor should they) be checking penises at the door, but being transgendered is not something anybody can prove either.

[Blake]

But if all a dude has to do is lie to gain access to a women's restroom, that's where I start to have a problem.

right now all a dude has to do to gain access to a women's restroom is just walk in. You should probably start there if you think bathroom safety is a problem.

[Spurminator]

Well now we know why it took so long for any real-life examples of the Bathroom Predator Myth to start making the rounds on the Right Wing Interwebs, they had to go back to 2014 to find one.

[pgardn]

Those eyebrows belong on a catalpa tree.

Dense jungle. Only the Pygmies inhabit those regions.

on topic sorta...

Im thinking a possible solution is between 4-17 differing bathroom designations. Pick your poison.

[pgardn]

right now all a dude has to do to gain access to a women's restroom is just walk in. You should probably start there if you think bathroom safety is a problem.

Ive accomplished that feat. Retard that I am wandering around not paying attention. Caught some substantial fat women undressing.

I now have bad dreams.

[I. Hustle]

right now all a dude has to do to gain access to a women's restroom is just walk in. You should probably start there if you think bathroom safety is a problem.

You really are delusional. I get how hard you are trying to argue your point. No the sign isn't going to keep someone out if they want to walk in. Are you really that stupid though? I'm not saying that every tranny is a molester or a perv. But, since you are talking about bathroom signs, if restrooms become gender neutral you have to see how much easier it would be for a predator to just walk in. You can't be that blind and just keep your "ddeeerrrr baffroom sign don't stop people" argument going with a straight face. Not every predator is that bold. In fact, most of them are cowards. Give them the liberty to walk in without anyone giving them a second glance though... C'mon, dude.

I give you a lot of shit just to mess with you and because I think it's hilarious when people think they are geniuses on the internet but do you really not stop and think about your daughter? There is danger everywhere all the time, I get that, but when you are openly inviting it... that just seems ridiculous. If something like that really does pass, I won't be a moron and I'll make sure that my kids use the restrooms at home or someplace that I feel is safe before we leave the house. When they become adults, they can make their own decisions but as a parent it's my job to protect them as much as possible.

[DisAsTerBot]

how have none of you been somewhere with a unisex bathroom? christ.

[The Reckoning]

C:lolnada

[Chinook]

how have none of you been somewhere with a unisex bathroom? christ.

24/7 rape fests in those places, I tell you.

[Blake]

If something like that really does pass, I won't be a moron and I'll make sure that my kids use the restrooms at home or someplace that I feel is safe before we leave the house. When they become adults, they can make their own decisions but as a parent it's my job to protect them as much as possible.

In a gender neutral bathroom, you could go in with your kids.

[Spurminator]

It's especially awkward when you go in pretending to be a girl and find out you're perving on someone who's also pretending to be a girl.

[Blake]

It's especially awkward when you go in pretending to be a girl and find out you're perving on someone who's also pretending to be a girl.

Lol

[MultiTroll]

public bathrooms are gross hepatitis-infested shitholes (literally)

always go before you go
I always line the water with a bunch of TP and or those paper seat covers. Then I get into position like a quarterback bending to take the snap and position for launch. Never making skin contact with any part of the toilet. When flushing do the reverse Kung Fu kick so none of the flush stream comes up anywhere near you and your head and nostril are pointed the other way, ready to insta exit.

[I. Hustle]

In a gender neutral bathroom, you could go in with your kids.

Is this the same for schools or would that be separate? You said once that your daughter goes to a private school. Don't those schools usually start at kinder and end at grade 12? Would those restrooms stay the same?

[Blake]

Is this the same for schools or would that be separate? You said once that your daughter goes to a private school. Don't those schools usually start at kinder and end at grade 12? Would those restrooms stay the same?

What adult predator do you forsee using school bathrooms? Or are you moving goalposts?

[I. Hustle]

What adult predator do you forsee using school bathrooms? Or are you moving goalposts?

Not moving goalpost at all. Do you not think that a high school aged kid is capable of something so heinous? Haven't we seen multiple news articles of teachers and principles busted with child porn?

Why does it have to be an adult? Again, I know that you are saying that a sign isn't going to stop anyone but if they can walk right in comfortably without worrying about anyone looking at them funny or thinking a boy walking into a restroom behind a little girl is suspicious, don't you think it makes it somewhat easier? You have to admit that.

There are no goalposts to move. I am asking YOU because your kid is in private school. Mine are not. Yes, a 5th grader is capable of doing the same I know but I am asking because the types of schools are different.

[Koolaid_Man]

He wants to use the women's by claiming transgendered. Does he belong in the women's restroom?

My non trolling take is NO...not unless you look like a real tranny that's totally passable and can't tell....if you look like a fucking freak. ...I mean why scare the little kids....and who the hell wants to wait in those long ass women restroom lines in order to sit, pull their dick out , and then pee...only seriously crazy ass muthafuckers...

I swear these Trans folks are so dam arrogant they want to use the women's because they believe they're attractive and that normal guys want them. ...:lmao

[Aztecfan03]

What adult predator do you forsee using school bathrooms? Or are you moving goalposts?
A school just recently had 3 different arrests for sex crimes and a fourth is being investigated.

[Aztecfan03]

What adult predator do you forsee using school bathrooms? Or are you moving goalposts?
So what bathrooms do adult predators use if they are at a school?

[TheSanityAnnex]

What adult predator do you forsee using school bathrooms? Or are you moving goalposts?

As many as 40% of children who are sexually abused are abused by older, or more powerfulchildren




http://www.d2l.org/atf/cf/%7B64AF78C...s_20150619.pdf (http://www.d2l.org/atf/cf/%7B64AF78C4-5EB8-45AA-BC28-F7EE2B581919%7D/all_statistics_20150619.pdf)

The younger the child victim, the more likely it is that the perpetrator is a juvenile. Juveniles are the offenders
in 43% of assaults on children under age six. Of these offenders, 14% are under age 12.9
• Juveniles who commit sex offenses against other children are more likely than adult sex offenders to offend in
groups, to offend at schools, and to have more male victims and younger victims.11
• The number of youth coming to the attention of police for sex offenses increases sharply at age 12 and
plateaus after age 14. Early adolescence is the peak age for youth offenses against younger children.14
• A small number of juvenile offenders — one out of eight — are younger than age 12. Females constitute 7%
of juveniles who commit sex offenses.14

[DJR210]

Are you applying for a City / County job opening of Perverts Rights Code Enforcement Level 5?

:lol you getting turned on by 12 year old little girls but calling others perverts?

:lol weirdo

[Spurminator]

As many as 40% of children who are sexually abused are abused by older, or more powerfulchildren




http://www.d2l.org/atf/cf/%7B64AF78C...s_20150619.pdf (http://www.d2l.org/atf/cf/%7B64AF78C4-5EB8-45AA-BC28-F7EE2B581919%7D/all_statistics_20150619.pdf)

The younger the child victim, the more likely it is that the perpetrator is a juvenile. Juveniles are the offenders
in 43% of assaults on children under age six. Of these offenders, 14% are under age 12.9
• Juveniles who commit sex offenses against other children are more likely than adult sex offenders to offend in
groups, to offend at schools, and to have more male victims and younger victims.11
• The number of youth coming to the attention of police for sex offenses increases sharply at age 12 and
plateaus after age 14. Early adolescence is the peak age for youth offenses against younger children.14
• A small number of juvenile offenders — one out of eight — are younger than age 12. Females constitute 7%
of juveniles who commit sex offenses.14

There's no reason to believe that bathrooms offer a substantial opportunity for the abusers cited in these stats. The extreme majority of incidents of sexual abuse occur in a residence, or by a family member, or between two teenagers that are too far apart in age for it to be legal. Much of this is cited in your link. Not exactly comparable to the random creeper hiding out in a secluded area waiting for a victim, or the mythical Potential Bathroom Predator who just hasn't had the opportunity yet because of separate restrooms.

[SpursforSix]

I always line the water with a bunch of TP and or those paper seat covers. Then I get into position like a quarterback bending to take the snap and position for launch. Never making skin contact with any part of the toilet. When flushing do the reverse Kung Fu kick so none of the flush stream comes up anywhere near you and your head and nostril are pointed the other way, ready to insta exit.

I try to never poop in a public bathroom. But if I do, I just take the top off the tank and poop in there.

[Blake]

Not moving goalpost at all. Do you not think that a high school aged kid is capable of something so heinous? Haven't we seen multiple news articles of teachers and principles busted with child porn?

Why does it have to be an adult? Again, I know that you are saying that a sign isn't going to stop anyone but if they can walk right in comfortably without worrying about anyone looking at them funny or thinking a boy walking into a restroom behind a little girl is suspicious, don't you think it makes it somewhat easier? You have to admit that.

There are no goalposts to move. I am asking YOU because your kid is in private school. Mine are not. Yes, a 5th grader is capable of doing the same I know but I am asking because the types of schools are different.

Ah, reread you used adult different than I thought.

And I think school is a trickier issue than the general public bathrooms, if nothing else than the showers.

But I think denying someone to take a piss where they feel most comfortable is wrong, especially when the only reason is "...but the predators can come in now".

Shit, let's force Catholic priests to use a priest only bathroom if you're so concerned about your kids in the restroom.

Bathroom violence has always been around.

instead of forcing trannies to be ridiculed or hazed, I'd prefer to see the whole school bathroom/shower situation revamped.

[Blake]

So what bathrooms do adult predators use if they are at a school?

Sandusky used the bathroom shower of the gender he was assigned to at birth.

[TheSanityAnnex]

There's no reason to believe that bathrooms offer a substantial opportunity for the abusers cited in these stats. The extreme majority of incidents of sexual abuse occur in a residence, or by a family member, or between two teenagers that are too far apart in age for it to be legal. Much of this is cited in your link. Not exactly comparable to the random creeper hiding out in a secluded area waiting for a victim, or the mythical Potential Bathroom Predator who just hasn't had the opportunity yet because of separate restrooms.

As I mentioned earlier my main concern is for the kids at school that are forced to share a restroom. Why would gender neutral bathrooms at a school not offer another opportunity for children who are abusers? Seems like a perfect opportunity to me.

[DisAsTerBot]

the fear is palatable. how do you guys even leave the house in the morning? ...oh yeah, carrying.

[TheSanityAnnex]

But I think denying someone to take a piss where they feel most comfortable is wrong, especially when the only reason is "...but the predators can come in now".

And I think denying someone to take a piss where they feel most comfortable is wrong, and some people will not feel most comfortable doing so next to a transgender. That Target petition probably has as many signatures now as there are transgenders in the US so these people do in fact exist in large numbers.

[TheSanityAnnex]

the fear is palatable. how do you guys even leave the house in the morning? ...oh yeah, carrying.
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[Spurminator]

Why would gender neutral bathrooms at a school not offer another opportunity for children who are abusers? Seems like a perfect opportunity to me.

The perfect opportunity? I don't see how. We're talking about someone who has decided to assault a fellow schoolmate who probably knows who they are, in a confined area with many adults close by, without fear of the likely consequences. This would either need to happen between classes, when there would usually be several other students in the restroom, or during class, when (if the school is doing its job) you've been excused from class and can't exactly be hanging around the restroom for a long time waiting for a specific person to walk in by herself.

At worst it's an alternate opportunity, but I don't see why someone who is determined to rape a fellow student would choose a bathroom. Someone with that kind of determination to rape and that kind of disregard for consequences probably isn't just waiting for access to women's restrooms to do it.

I'm sure there is a greater than 0.00000000000% chance of this happening, and I'm sure it will be HUGE news when it does, but there are hundreds of other situations where women are at greater risk of abuse that we accept as a part of life.

[Spurminator]

Besides, nothing stops a bad guy with access to the women's restroom better than a good guy with access to the women's restroom.

[TheSanityAnnex]

The perfect opportunity? I don't see how. We're talking about someone who has decided to assault a fellow schoolmate who probably knows who they are, in a confined area with many adults close by, without fear of the likely consequences. This would either need to happen between classes, when there would usually be several other students in the restroom, or during class, when (if the school is doing its job) you've been excused from class and can't exactly be hanging around the restroom for a long time waiting for a specific person to walk in by herself.

At worst it's an alternate opportunity, but I don't see why someone who is determined to rape a fellow student would choose a bathroom. Someone with that kind of determination to rape and that kind of disregard for consequences probably isn't just waiting for access to women's restrooms to do it. I'm sure there is a greater than 0.000000% chance of this happening, and I'm sure it will be HUGE news when it does, but there are hundreds of other situations where women are at greater risk of abuse.

I'm not talking just about rape but all sexual assaults/sexual harassment that happen on a school campus. Boys going through puberty are some stupid and horny motherfuckers, I'd rather limit their chances of acting on their urges. I guess you could have a bathroom security guard in every single school bathroom across the country but that seems like an awful waste of taxpayer dollars to appease .03% (even smaller if we are just talking transgender kids) of the population.

[Spurminator]

I'm not talking just about rape but all sexual assaults/sexual harassment that happen on a school campus. Boys going through puberty are some stupid and horny motherfuckers, I'd rather limit their chances of acting on their urges. I guess you could have a bathroom security guard in every single school bathroom across the country but that seems like an awful waste of taxpayer dollars to appease .03% (even smaller if we are just talking transgender kids) of the population.

For one thing, I expect that 0.3% to grow dramatically in the next decade as it becomes more socially acceptable. Either way, we probably won't be close to this scenario for a long time, and when we are, I would expect restrooms to look a lot different... not just who is in them, but how they are built.

[TheSanityAnnex]

For one thing, I expect that 0.3% to grow dramatically in the next decade as it becomes more socially acceptable. Either way, we probably won't be close to this scenario for a long time, and when we are, I would expect restrooms to look a lot different... not just who is in them, but how they are built.

I think it will be single occupancy everywhere eventually which satisfies everyone, just seems like a huge waste of tax dollars to appease such a small part of the population.

[Spurminator]

I think it will be single occupancy everywhere eventually which satisfies everyone, just seems like a huge waste of tax dollars to appease such a small part of the population.

If that happens it wouldn't be just for transgenders. I think we're generally moving in a direction where people are going to find the idea of pissing and shitting in the same room as other people kind of archaic. Like the pissing troughs.

Besides, handicap access also appeases a very small percent of the population, but I don't see a lot of people complaining about that (except when I can't find a parking spot.)

[Spurminator]

And it will be over time, so it's not like there's going to be this mandate that every place of business and public facility has to remodel their bathrooms in a weekend. The taxpayer impact will probably be much lower than you expect.

[I. Hustle]

Shit, let's force Catholic priests to use a priest only bathroom if you're so concerned about your kids in the restroom.



I am ALL for that. I'm not catholic. I think that's a great idea.

[Chinook]

You know what provides opportunities for sexual predators? Women living without a man to protect them. Why are letting them go unprotected? We allow that because we aren't willing to deprive a class of people a basic freedom in the name of a small increase in danger. That trade-off is the key to contract theory.

So to me, the anti-GN crowd needs more to stand on than they're presenting. They have to show that the potential harm is bad enough to justify putting other people through awkward and sometimes outwardly demeaning situations. If you are going to violate someone's rights, you need a good reason for it. You don't have a right dictate what kind of people are allowed to be in public bathrooms with you. You do have a right to not be arrested because people don't want you using a bathroom with them based on how you look.

The rights theory in this case is simple, and I say that as a person who has a reputation for leaning conservative with my rights theory evaluations on this board.

[I. Hustle]

YEAH! Forget about anyone else's rights!!

[pgardn]

how have none of you been somewhere with a unisex bathroom? christ.

With multiple stalls?

Where?
Hater wants to know.

[pgardn]

I try to never poop in a public bathroom. But if I do, I just take the top off the tank and poop in there.

I will need a itinerary when you go on vacation.

[Chinook]

YEAH! Forget about anyone else's rights!!

What rights?

[I. Hustle]

What rights?

exactly!

[Blake]

exactly!

Sorry, you'll never have a legal right to discriminate because you think they're gross

[I. Hustle]

Sorry, you'll never have a legal right to discriminate because you think they're gross

LMAO

[Thebesteva]

You know shit is getting out of control when this is THE issue in America...lol fucking ridiculous

[Xevious]

Fuck it. Let's just do away with separate bathrooms altogether and just have large unisex bathrooms with no urinals.

[Blake]

Fuck it. Let's just do away with separate bathrooms altogether and just have large unisex bathrooms with no urinals.

Yeah, may take a while, but I bet it's gonna go that way eventually

[SquawkinHawkBigCock]

:lmao you weirdos that care so much about fucking public restrooms

When I am forced to use some shitty kept bathroom in a public place, I'm not checking to see if the other people in the bathroom with me have dicks or not, I'm trying to get in and get out as soon as possible

So what if gender identified people want to use their preferred restrooms? Are you sick fucks gonna go stall to stall doing nut checks? Or, the more likely option, you will actually never notice any change at all and will have your routine as normal.

It could be Micheal Jackson's ghost pissing in the urinal next to me, I'm not taking a look in any kind of dirty ass public restroom. So why should I give a fuck if there's a trans person in there or not?

:lol weirdos

[SpursforSix]

:lmao you weirdos that care so much about fucking public restrooms

When I am forced to use some shitty kept bathroom in a public place, I'm not checking to see if the other people in the bathroom with me have dicks or not, I'm trying to get in and get out as soon as possible

So what if gender identified people want to use their preferred restrooms? Are you sick fucks gonna go stall to stall doing nut checks? Or, the more likely option, you will actually never notice any change at all and will have your routine as normal.

It could be Micheal Jackson's ghost pissing in the urinal next to me, I'm not taking a look in any kind of dirty ass public restroom. So why should I give a fuck if there's a trans person in there or not?

:lol weirdos

Post 424. Fail.

[Xevious]

:lmao you weirdos that care so much about fucking public restrooms

When I am forced to use some shitty kept bathroom in a public place, I'm not checking to see if the other people in the bathroom with me have dicks or not, I'm trying to get in and get out as soon as possible

So what if gender identified people want to use their preferred restrooms? Are you sick fucks gonna go stall to stall doing nut checks? Or, the more likely option, you will actually never notice any change at all and will have your routine as normal.

It could be Micheal Jackson's ghost pissing in the urinal next to me, I'm not taking a look in any kind of dirty ass public restroom. So why should I give a fuck if there's a trans person in there or not?

:lol weirdos
If you had read the thread, you'd see most guys don't give a shit. The only thing people are getting worked up about is some dude perving on women under the guise of being transgendered.

[SquawkinHawkBigCock]

If you had read the thread, you'd see most guys don't give a shit. The only thing people are getting worked up about is some dude perving on women under the guise of being transgendered.
Being scared of things that have happened a total record of one time is pretty PC. So scared of something that...doesn't ever happen.