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[spurraider21]

First time in a long time that the Raiders have generated significant and authentic hype. Another solid draft, development of Carr da gawd, and we could be seeing January football

[Avante]

I have no problems seeing a legit shot at a WC berth in 2016, yep, a team on the rise. The NFL always better when the Raiders are in the mix.

Carr to Cooper, gotta love it.

[djohn2oo8]

Raiders to Las Vegas?

Raiders commit to Vegas, offer $500 million for stadium: 4 things to know - CBSSports.com (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25570100/raiders-commit-to-vegas-offer-500-million-for-stadium-4-things-to-know?linkId=23972076)

[spurraider21]

I'd be cool with that. I'd rather drive to Vegas than Oakland to watch games :lol.

tbh i just want them to get the situation resolved, one way or another. oakland, LA, SD, Vegas, or SA

[spurraider21]

also Chinook whenever you have the chance, feel free to index

[Chinook]

also Chinook (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=37557) whenever you have the chance, feel free to index

Done.

[spurraider21]

big shoes to fill, but gotta love the physicality


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INOG00WUbkg

[spurraider21]

Draft Recap:

Round 1 - Karl Joseph, S
Round 2 - Jihad Ward, DL (press conference indicated he will primarily be a DT)
Round 3 - Shilique Calhoun, DE
Round 4 - Connor Cook, QB
Round 5 - DeAndre Washington, RB
Round 6 - Cory James, LB
Round 7 - Vadal Alexander, G

[spurraider21]

:lol aldon smith apparently put up a video of himself blazing on periscope
:lol moron
:lol inb4 all the :cry it should be allowed in the nfl :cry dipshits missing the point

[Robz4000]

:lol the dude is literally retarded

[Chinook]

:lol aldon smith apparently put up a video of himself blazing on periscope
:lol moron

http://static.wixstatic.com/media/24aff0_f4d4ffc959cc472fa766def9b6ffdfdd.jpg/v1/fill/w_671,h_449,al_c,lg_1,q_80/24aff0_f4d4ffc959cc472fa766def9b6ffdfdd.jpg


:lol inb4 all the :cry it should be allowed in the nfl :cry dipshits missing the point

http://www.trbimg.com/img-5790dad4/turbine/bal-controversial-ex-ravens-tackle-eugene-monroe-retires-from-football-20160721/600

[spurraider21]

:lol...

Thanks for KO by the way

[spurraider21]

https://i.gyazo.com/5369df8e7023f89fce08994bcd0e836d.png

[Silver&Black]

:lmao Del Rio gives absolutely no fucks

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[Pelicans78]

He made the right call. I was hoping he would kick the extra point because I knew our defense wouldn't stop their 2-point conversion.

[spurraider21]

:lmao Del Rio gives absolutely no fucks

775083321349009408

775090806881476608
:lmao fucking savage

[RGMCSE]

Congrats on the win dog. I can't wait til we get a real head coach in here. We have talent. But it'll go to waist if we keep this bozo around.

[chunticakes]

Congrats on the win dog. I can't wait til we get a real head coach in here. We have talent. But it'll go to waist if we keep this bozo around.

Same thing with Dallas. We have a clown who does nothing but waste our talent and clap on the sidelines.

[RGMCSE]

Same thing with Dallas. We have a clown who does nothing but waste our talent and clap on the sidelines.


Obviously being in San Antonio you cant help but know and notice the talent Dallas has. That offense should be able to run its self with a veteran backup. I remember back in the days of the Jags having a high powered offense Mark Brunell got hurt and we used Rob Johnson to lead several high scoring games. The Jags ended up trading Johnson to the Bills for their 1st and 4th pick in the 98 draft and thats how we ended up with Fred Taylor! That's what the Cowboys should do with Dak, unless you really thinks he's franchise QB talent.

[spurraider21]

need to see a LOOOT more from dak before making those kinds of proclamations. he only looked comfortable throwing short-intermediate throws over the middle, which are the easiest throws for a qb anyway. i mean thats what sanchez was relying on his first few years in the league. sanchez made his living throwing short middle or seams to keller

[Fabbs]

https://cbsboston.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/gettyimages-144928399.jpg?w=625

[Fabbs]

http://static2.businessinsider.com/image/560e993c9dd7cc22008becdd-480/mark-davis-raiders-owner.jpg

[Fabbs]

I guess he's happy because some Nevada bureaucrats just approved 750 million of taxpayer dough for a new Vegas stadium.

Officials with the Las Vegas Sands said they They are also committing to fund construction cost overruns and infrastructure improvements at the yet-undetermined site......
don't want to return any profits to the public because they would be making little or no money on the stadium. (Ya we believe that, right?)
"We are excited," Raiders owner Mark Davis told ESPN. "Thank you to the SNTIC."

Sands representative Andy Abboud said the Adelsons (Sands owners) were in China to open their new, $2.9 billion Parisian Macao casino

[Fabbs]

http://www.fieldofschemes.com/2016/09/16/11571/unelected-board-okays-750m-plus-raiders-stadium-subsidy-democracy-maybe-to-commence-soon/

Unelected board okays $750m-plus Raiders stadium subsidy, democracy maybe to commence soon
:lol look who exactly the *board* is ^^^

[spurraider21]

3-1 with 3 road wins... not bad

Carr has been clutch, 2 big game winning drives. Crabtree has been a monster, and Cooper hasn't exploded yet. Pass rush finally getting something done. Run defense will be an issue going forward, though.

[Avante]

When teams start doing things that are unusual for them it's time to take notice. The Raiders don't usually win back to back road games. We have to go back to 2011 to find them pulling that off.

Being realistic.

Beat KC/SD at home.
Lose one of the next back to back on the road ve the inferior Jags/Bucs

Win 3-of those 4.

Lose to Denver.

Maybe lose to Houston in Mexico.

Win one of these two home games vs Carolina/Buffalo

Could lose both back to back on the road vs KC/SD.

THREE...double road situations????

Beat Indy at home.

Lose at Denver.

9-7?

2017 a legit AFC contender.

[Mal]

I like the way this team is definately going.
I like coach with big balls.
I like chemistry that this team clearly have.

Good days ahead Raiders fans.

[spurraider21]

4-1, temporarily atop the AFC-W

next 4 games: vs KC, @ Jaguars, @ Bucs, vs Denver... then they go into the bye

the AFC lacks depth... after the broncos/pats/steelers, there is nobody particularly threatening. getting a win against KC to widen the gap there (and get a division/conference win) would put us in a great spot. still pretty sure denver wins the division, but keeping KC off our heels will be big going forward, especially since we already own a potential tiebreaker with baltimore if we want to look that far ahead. the raiders started last season 4-2 but ended up finishing 3-7 to wrap things up. things look different, though, as carr is playing at a much higher level

[spurraider21]

Nevada assembly approved the stadium legislation!

All that's left iirc is the league approval in February

[Avante]

Andy Reid is 15-2 coming off a bye week. 3-1 last 4 vs Raiders.

Raiders haven't won 4 in a row in over a decade.

[Silver&Black]

Thought we were gonna tie, tbh.

[spurraider21]

Carr is the most clutch QB this side of Brady

[HarlemHeat37]

Raiders' record in those early road games is extremely impressive, no lie, tbh..

[benefactor]

Fucking Texans.

Fuck.

[spurraider21]

AFC-W has a pretty good shot of sending 3 teams to the playoffs. raiders/broncos/chiefs all have 2 losses... other wild card contenders all have 4 or more.

i'm driving up for Broncos @ Raiders next week and then we have a bye.

[Avante]

They really do need to beat a "good" team. As we saw once in with the Chiefs, ouch~~~~ Obviously they won't be winning both Broncos games.

Being as real as possible.

beat Denver?
beat Houston in Mexico City
beat Carolina
beat Buffao

they will lose one of those.

lose at KC
could lose at SD
beat Indy
lose at Denver

so.....11-5 and a playoff spot.

Derek Carr is the real deal, and the Raiders are two seasons away from being a serious/legit SB contender.

[spurraider21]

i think denver is a horrible matchup for the raiders, unfortunately... carr struggled against them twice last year, and we only beat them once because Mack had the best game of his career with 5 sacks including a strip in the end zone. the other takeaway from that game was that the raiders only offensive success came when they targeted tight ends heavily, which makes sense because challenging harris and talib outside is never going to be a recipe for success, even as great as cooper/crabtree/carr have been.

the raiders o-line is one of the better pass protecting units in the league, but even they haven't been able to handle denver's pass rush, giving up 3 and 4 sacks in the two meetings last year. one thing carr has improved upon so well this year, though, is having that natural pocket feel/movement that brady seems to do so well. if the raiders interior OL can hold up, it could mitigate the edge rushing. ever since lee smith went down against baltimore, the raiders have been using more 6 OL sets, too, which should help against Denver's front.

on the other side, the broncos really don't do much... so as long as the raiders dont have blatant breakdowns in coverage and can avoid 3rd down penalties, it shouldn't be problematic, and Mack has been rounding into shape in recent weeks.

i'll be at the game, but unfortunately i think denver takes it. my guess is the raiders will find themselves down by a possession late, and the broncos D makes a huge play like a strip/sack or a pick-6 to ice it. that said, it would be awfully sweet to be enjoying a huge win during the drive back home. 7-2 heading into the bye would basically make them a lock to make the playoffs

[spurraider21]

aldon smith eligible for reinstatement in 2 weeks... hopefully his dumbshit periscope weed video doesn't cost him :lol

[Robz4000]

aldon smith eligible for reinstatement in 2 weeks... hopefully his dumbshit periscope weed video doesn't cost him :lol

If that doesn't then he'll find something else to fuck himself over with. What could've been...

[spurraider21]

7-2 going into the bye with a huge win :hat

Chiefs are still a problem as they're 1 win behind us, but playoffs looking incredibly likely.


Also wow what a game to be at. I drive up to Oakland every year for one game, and the last time I saw a win was when Andrew Walter beat the Steelers in 2006 tbh :lol

[spurraider21]

bye week gonna be boring, Chiefs are at Carolina and Broncos are at New Orleans. Would be nice to get some help with the division race being so tight.

remaining games...

vs Houston (in Mexico City, Monday night)
vs Panthers
vs Bills
at Chiefs (Thursday night)
at Chargers
vs Colts
at Broncos

all the remaining road games are divisional. KC is our toughest matchup, but luckily we get them on a thursday where it's always a shitshow and maybe we benefit from that. no real cupcake games left, but outside of denver/KC, none are really daunting either

[Avante]

bye week gonna be boring, Chiefs are at Carolina and Broncos are at New Orleans. Would be nice to get some help with the division race being so tight.

remaining games...

vs Houston (in Mexico City, Monday night)
vs Panthers
vs Bills
at Chiefs (Thursday night)
at Chargers
vs Colts
at Broncos

all the remaining road games are divisional. KC is our toughest matchup, but luckily we get them on a thursday where it's always a shitshow and maybe we benefit from that. no real cupcake games left, but outside of denver/KC, none are really daunting either

As long as Del Rio/Carr are there and the owner wants to $$$$$$ win, I see the Raiders becoming a perennial SB contender. This season just a playoff spot would work. Another draft, a stud free agent or two and it's good times again for the Raider Nation.

[spurraider21]

Carr is the most clutch QB this side of Brady
:worthy:

[lefty]

spur (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1680)raider21 :cry we back

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

I think Carolina gets the upset off an Oakland short week. No Kuechly will obviously alter my perception for this game

[spurraider21]

I think Carolina gets the upset off an Oakland short week. No Kuechly will obviously alter my perception for this gameshould be a good game. the raiders record doesn't reflect the team's flaws at all, and panthers have played better as of late. still, have you ever gone into a game on this site NOT thinking the panthers would win? :lol

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

should be a good game. the raiders record doesn't reflect the team's flaws at all, and panthers have played better as of late. still, have you ever gone into a game on this site NOT thinking the panthers would win? :lol

:lol touchee

Should go down to has the ball last

[spurraider21]

:lol touchee

Should go down to has the ball lasti really don't think carolina is that good though... their 4 wins came against the niners, cardinals, rams, and saints. they've also been garbage on the road this year (1-3). the equalizer here is that the raiders will be coming off a short week/travel and the panthers haven't played since last thursday.

panthers run D has been top tier, but their secondary has played like shit. their pass rush is nice, but the raiders OL is right up there with the cowboys as far as pass protection (cowboys line is much better/more consistent in the run game).

raiders defense has been pretty shitty and made osweiler look good, but cam has had a pretty bad year and throws picks. panthers O needs to be clicking to make this a game

[spurraider21]

the raiders D has been pretty poor for a good part of the season, so them stinking it up against houston wasn't that frustrating, it's expected.

what IS unnerving is that we've been dropping a lot of passes, and that's not really excusable for a team built around throwing the ball. crabtree's best asset to the team since he got here has been his sure hands, so having him drop passes like he did is pretty draining.

this is an easy catch for anybody, plain and simple... killed an early drive

https://i.gyazo.com/6d67adef5e61f27d27ed03161f636eab.gif


this one isn't an "easy" catch, but he had ample separation and the defender didn't touch him, so it wasn't really contested either. luckily this came on 2nd down, and he was able to draw a PI on the next play. we settled for a FG however, when he could have just caught the TD in the first place

https://i.gyazo.com/25d3a49a644af2f7f1c1a572e2160e73.gif



and this was on a 4th down, so an absolute drive killer. not so much a drop, more of a slip. crabtree has been a great possession receiver since he fights BACK for the ball all the time instead of watching the ball come to him. unfortunately here, he lost his footing and wasn't able to get back to the ball, giving the DB a chance to make the play. hard to get mad for a slip/stumble, but when he had the bad game he did, these little things become more frustrating. this could have given us a lead going into the half. he had the defender beat, just has to get back to the ball like he usually does

https://i.gyazo.com/bdb52526153f06f616424bf9aa952cb8.gif



and lastly we have seth roberts, who does drop a lot of balls, but usually makes up for it with a clutch or gw catch later. this isn't an "easy" catch either, but again, you cant waste a perfect throw when you get 2 hands on the ball like that. it's not even as though he lost the ball when going down, it was a clean drop.

https://i.gyazo.com/3785752a16ba2cf58acc585f64c2a46a.gif



raiders O needs to stop beating itself, as otherwise they're a juggernaut

[spurtech09]

Im not a Texans fan but wow Texans got robbed 3 times...Hopkins didn't run out of bounds...and the running back made the first down twice ......not once but twice lol......Make the videos of that.....gotta see it again lol....ROBBED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

We will see man. The Panthers defense now leads the league in sacks. The Panthers record is mediocre, but they have played the best teams well. They also have the leagues MVP. If you're looking for a blowout, you're not going to get that. Panthers are hot and they literally can't lose this game. They will come in with fire under their ass.


The Panthers offense has struggled in the second half, but is very explosive, and honestly I'm not sure your defense is going to be able to stop it. I see a really high scoring game. As for the secondary, we've made some minor moves that have gone a good ways. Brees really struggled last week, as did Alex Smith, Jameis Winston, etc.

[spurraider21]

Im not a Texans fan but wow Texans got robbed 3 times...Hopkins didn't run out of bounds...and the running back made the first down twice ......not once but twice lol......Make the videos of that.....gotta see it again lol....ROBBED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!the hopkins one is tough to tell, as we don't have a perfect angle to see it. the main broadcast angle sucks because one of the coaches head is directly in the way of seeing his foot. this one shows he might have stepped out, but again, it's impossible to know how much of his foot was on the ground. you can make out some white chalk flying up, but not sure that's conclusive. either way, the refs made the call on the field and wasn't reviewable. honestly, in these 50/50 plays, i do believe the refs SHOULD let them play out and have the chance of reviewing it, rather than calling it dead

https://i.imgur.com/WWtnZyG.gif

as for the late game runs, i think miller clearly had it on 3rd down and they gave a bad spot. o'brien definitely should have challenged it and would have won imo. for that one, it doesn't really make sense to look at a still picture, because you could easily have a pic with his knee down and the ball past the marker, but with a still shot, you dont know if he fell forward after the knee was down, or if that snapshot is actually EXACTLY the moment the knee went down. but if you look at the video, i think its pretty clear miller had it.

the 4th down play is harder to call, and while that spot was questionable, i'm not at all surprised they didn't overturn it. honestly, if the call on the field was a first down and the raiders challenged it, i dont think they would have overturned that either. it's hard to make out where the ball was positioned relative to his body at the moment his knee went down. sure, his head was past the marker, but the ball was tucked in

[spurraider21]

We will see man. The Panthers defense now leads the league in sacks. The Panthers record is mediocre, but they have played the best teams well. They also have the leagues MVP. If you're looking for a blowout, you're not going to get that. Panthers are hot and they literally can't lose this game. They will come in with fire under their ass.


The Panthers offense has struggled in the second half, but is very explosive, and honestly I'm not sure your defense is going to be able to stop it. I see a really high scoring game. As for the secondary, we've made some minor moves that have gone a good ways. Brees really struggled last week, as did Alex Smith, Jameis Winston, etc.when i said "it should be a good game" that was basically the opposite of me saying i expect a blowout. not to nitpick, but the panthers dont lead the league in sacks. they have 30, while the seahawks and bills have 31 apiece. with that said, the raiders have given up THE fewest sacks in the league (11) despite being a pass happy club. this is a combination of the raiders having a top 2 OL and of Carr routinely ranking among the best QB's regarding "time to throw" stats.

i think the panthers will be able to move the ball against the raiders, just like we saw with houston last night. but the raiders only have 7 turnovers on the season, the panthers have 19. if the raiders win the turnover battle, i dont see the panthers outscoring them on a possession by possession basis. the panthers are also 1-3 on the road this year. the raiders are favored to win, as they should be.

[lefty]

We staaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaacked

[Fabbs]

Adelson tells Davis to get his filthy hands off his $750m, could blow up Vegas Raiders deal

http://www.fieldofschemes.com/2016/10/27/11735/adelson-tells-davis-to-get-his-filthy-hands-off-his-750m-could-blow-up-vegas-raiders-deal/

[SuperCam]

We will see man. The Panthers defense now leads the league in sacks. The Panthers record is mediocre, but they have played the best teams well. They also have the leagues MVP. If you're looking for a blowout, you're not going to get that. Panthers are hot and they literally can't lose this game. They will come in with fire under their ass.


The Panthers offense has struggled in the second half, but is very explosive, and honestly I'm not sure your defense is going to be able to stop it. I see a really high scoring game. As for the secondary, we've made some minor moves that have gone a good ways. Brees really struggled last week, as did Alex Smith, Jameis Winston, etc.

Sack leader Addison out. Kalil still out. Oher to IR. Kuechly still out.


Vegas having this only +3 says more about how bad the Raiders D is than anything, tbh :lol

[spurraider21]

Sack leader Addison out. Kalil still out. Oher to IR. Kuechly still out.


Vegas having this only +3 says more about how bad the Raiders D is than anything, tbh :lol:lol vegas... their odds are dependent on betting patterns, which have been way off on carolina and oakland this year.

oakland is 7-3 ATS, panthers are 2-6-2. dumbass casual gamblers still think panthers are a really good team based on last year :lmao. 0-3-1 ATS on the road :lol... people thinkin they're road warriors

but you gotta make your cute pre-emptive excuses to setup your win/win... if the panthers lose, well we were hurt :cry so it doesn't count, and if they win, :wow holy shit we won despite being hurt

[Spur-Addict]

Carolina most likely done, Oakland is in the same lane as Dallas. Everyone is jumping up and down, but not just sure at the moment. Are they exceptional, or above average? Either way both are in the playoffs.

[spurraider21]

the raiders aren't as good as their record, and i dont think oakland is as good as dallas overall, tbh. cowboys offense is rolling, and their defense, flawed as it is, gives up less than 20 ppg. cowboys D bends, oakland's D breaks and is the achilles heel to the team that relies on carr to bail them out time and time again

but carolina is mediocre through and through, and they're awful on the road + banged up. panthers will need to win the turnover battle to stand a chance, and they turn the ball over a lot

i subscribe to the "any given sunday" thing, but there's a reason why the raiders are favored despite the panthers inflated perception (as evidenced by their awful ATS record)

[SuperCam]

:lol vegas... their odds are dependent on betting patterns, which have been way off on carolina and oakland this year.

oakland is 7-3 ATS, panthers are 2-6-2. dumbass casual gamblers still think panthers are a really good team based on last year :lmao. 0-3-1 ATS on the road :lol... people thinkin they're road warriors

but you gotta make your cute pre-emptive excuses to setup your win/win... if the panthers lose, well we were hurt :cry so it doesn't count, and if they win, :wow holy shit we won despite being hurt


Like the Waiders would do shit missing Mack, their Center, LT, or 2nd best defensive player :lol


Thinking 'dumbass gamblers' set the line and not the sharps :lmao

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Like the Waiders would do shit missing Mack, their Center, LT, or 2nd best defensive player :lol


Thinking 'dumbass gamblers' set the line and not the sharps :lmao

:lol

I was trying to be nice to his team, but he's right. His team is not as good as their record is, their defense is shit, and they are too reliant on their QB with no run game. He wants to sit here and call Carolina mediocre but not putting injuries and recent play into account. Well what the fuck have the Raiders done to warrant this great success? Have a great start? Please. Carolina has been more proven over the last year and a half than Oakland ever was.

SR better hope we don't beat them without Kuechly (which we are 4-0 without him) on the road for all this shit talk.

Raiders haven't proven shit yet playboy.

[spurraider21]

:lol

I was trying to be nice to his team, but he's right. His team is not as good as their record is, their defense is shit, and they are too reliant on their QB with no run game. He wants to sit here and call Carolina mediocre but not putting injuries and recent play into account. Well what the fuck have the Raiders done to warrant this great success? Have a great start? Please. Carolina has been more proven over the last year and a half than Oakland ever was.

SR better hope we don't beat them without Kuechly (which we are 4-0 without him) on the road for all this shit talk.

Raiders haven't proven shit yet playboy.:lol... "with no run game" despite having #9 rushing team in the league and being higher ranked than the panthers on the ground... both in yards per game, and by a significant amount in rushing average (4.6 ypc for oakland, 3.8 for Car).

:lol... carolina IS mediocre. they're 4-6. and they've had recent wins against SF, LA, and NO, all sub .500 teams, and all games at home

:lol... the raiders, flawed as they have been, have 8 wins in 10 games. that's what they've done. the win against denver is what validated them as a legitimate team. it also gave them something the panthers dont have, a win against a team that doesn't have a losing record. you were creaming your pants after like 3 games last year, despite having gone 7-8-1 the year before, and now you're giving me crap for having confidence in an 8-2 team the year after going 7-9? lol

but yes, last year's panthers were better than last year's raiders, so if you want to talk about the past year and a half, you have that going for you

i dont get why you're so salty though... i said it should be a good game, acknowledged it wouldn't be a blowout of any kind, and said i subscribe to the any given sunday thing. its just that the raiders are favored and that's not just some coincidence, it's for a reason... they've been a better team this year and they're at home, while the panthers have no road wins

[Fabbs]

smh they should send Cum a thank you note.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

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[UNT Eagles 2016]

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161128/3ac149ba19f0ac7547d7658565296c46.jpg

Figures he'd be a fairweather, treacherous, bandwagoning faggot.

[spurraider21]

:lmao UNT... i dont read his ignored posts anymore since after i do i always need to go take a shit, but :lmao comparing benson mayowa to khalil mack

[lefty]

We staaaaaaacked

[spurraider21]

Should go down to has the ball last
Cam had the chance but...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8n6QCIhdp8

[lefty]

...but we too stacked

[spurraider21]

...but we too stackedin the win column...

[lefty]

in the win column...
Wsome,Lsome


We stacked

[Avante]

The NFL is always better when the Niners/Raiders are relevant. All that history, all those great players.

The Raiders will play in the SB in the next five seasons.

[HarlemHeat37]

Derek Carr crying because he jammed his finger was :lmao

[spurraider21]

Derek Carr crying because he jammed his finger was :lmao
:wow.. 803346150644449280

[spurraider21]

10-2... 6 straight wins.

Upcoming Thursday night game @ KC will probably decide the division winner since those dipshit falcons choked

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Congrats to the Raiders for cementing their place as the best in the AFC and 2nd best in the NFL, tbh. :toast

Great offensive line, defense is trash though.

[Robz4000]

Congrats to the Raiders for cementing their place as the best in the AFC and 2nd best in the NFL, tbh. :toast

Great offensive line, defense is trash though.

God damn UNT, have some fucking mercy. I'm sorry spurraider21, maybe next year...

[spurraider21]

God damn UNT, have some fucking mercy. I'm sorry spurraider21 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=31905), maybe next year...dude has no power over the raiders. early in the season he was arguing that benson mayowa (who? exactly) was a better player than khalil mack

[chunticakes]

dude has no power over the raiders. early in the season he was arguing that benson mayowa (who? exactly) was a better player than khalil mack

He jinxed us too, scro.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

He jinxed us too, scro.

OMG BELICHICK IS AMAZING! THE PATS ARE A BUNCH OF SEXY ABERCROMBIE MODELS AND CAN'T BE BEAT!


There. I've completed the cycle.

[Avante]

Ok, let's see...

Raiders at KC in the Del Rio/Carr era....they lost last season 23-17.

The Chiefs have gone...20-4 in their 24 games, and haven't lost a division game at home since week two of 2015.

As far as Thursday Night Football goes.

The Chiefs are 5-5 SU, the Raiders 3-4.

The Chiefs have played the better schedule. AT...Steelers, Raiders, Falcons, Broncos.

The Chiefs are 6-1 the last 7 vs Raiders. Or when Andy Reid showed up.

There is no logical reason to see a Raiders win in this 'spot". As we know like in Seatlle that crowd noise there at Arrowhead is a factor, so if we take that and add to everything else, it does say....Chiefs.

I will be rooting for Oakland, the game is better when the silver & black is in the mix.

[spurraider21]

Oakland is 2-0 on Thursday Night since Carr took over. They've only beaten the Chiefs 1/5 times with Carr. That one time? Yup. Thursday night. Kansas city in their last 2 Thursday games? 0-2

well thats my version of playing the "spot" thing...

but seriously, the chiefs are at home and have played the raiders extremely well since reid took over. carr has had his worst games against KC. the chiefs are favored and rightfully so. hoping we pull an upset. thursday night games tend to be low quality and sloppy, so hopefully that wildcard lets us pull some bullshit off :lol

[Avante]

Oakland is 2-0 on Thursday Night since Carr took over. They've only beaten the Chiefs 1/5 times with Carr. That one time? Yup. Thursday night.

Kansas city in their last 2 Thursday games? 0-2

Yep...IN....Oakland. Home/road is huge~

In the Andy Reid era if he wins the first Raider game, he also wins the second. 4-0 there.

[spurraider21]

Yep...IN....Oakland. Home/road is huge~

In the Andy Reid era if he wins the first Raider game, he also wins the second. 4-0 there.well thats because the raiders have been a trash team since andy reid got there

[Avante]

well thats because the raiders have been a trash team since andy reid got there

True true, but do you really think the Raiders can win IN KC? Dude, keep it real, ok, don't get all silly because ya like a team, ok?

[spurraider21]

True true, but do you really think the Raiders can win IN KC? Dude, keep it real, ok, don't get all silly because ya like a team, ok?read my post above. i think the chiefs will win, though as a fan i'm always holding out hope for another outcome

also statistically, the raiders have had a tougher schedule than KC so far, as opposed to what you claimed earlier. the chiefs have had basically the average strength of schedule so far across the league

https://i.gyazo.com/c42e1ed5d43e6116796f0bc16e3ae7b2.png

[Holden_Caulfield]

im so jealous of the raiders :cry

[DD]

Oakland's defense might be atrocious, but they have what's most important--the ability to effectively rush the passer with minimal blitzing...Mack and Irvin change games, much like Mathis and Freeney did for Indy bitd. They also kind of remind me of the 2011 New York Giants (2007 to a lesser extent since their D was good). Very meh running game, but a clutch team that made explosive big plays on offensive and could dominate another team's O-line with a 4-man pass rush when it mattered.

I still think Oakland (and/or Dallas) are another year away from the promised land--just because my gut tells me the youth factor will rear its ugly head at the wrong time--but at least the Cowboys have little-to-no-resistance in that terrible NFC playoff field this year. Seattle matches up horribly with them--as does GB, the NFC South, the Paper Lions, etc. If I'm the Cowboys the only team I don't wanna see are the Giants (and maybe the Redskins just because how close they play each other. The problem is Dallas is a lock for the #1 seed, and it's very possible that both the Skins and Giants end up as the NFC WC's this year--setting up one hell of a divisional round game either way assuming NYG and WAS win their games at DET and TB.

[Avante]

Two words for tonights game....Tyreek Hill.

[spurraider21]

http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2014/04/03/istock-7089431-cricket_wide-876a81eaf54c8927e726c7393ee1dfccc2b593ed-s900-c85.jpg

[Avante]

Dude, that will last what a week? Grow up little guy, ok?

Tyreek Hill
Early life[edit (http://www.spurstalk.com/w/index.php?title=Tyreek_Hill&action=edit&section=1)]A native of Pearson, Georgia (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Pearson,_Georgia), Hill attended Coffee High School (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Coffee_High_School_(Georgia)), where he won both the 100 metres and 200 metres at the 2012 Georgia 5A state meet.[1] (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/#cite_note-1)[2] (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/#cite_note-2)
On May 26, 2012, at the 36th Golden South Classic in Orlando, Florida (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Orlando,_Florida), Hill ran a new season-best in the 100 m (10.19) and a PR in the 200 m (20.14).[3] (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/#cite_note-3) His time in the 200 m missed Roy Martin's (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Roy_Martin_(sprinter)) 1985 national high school record (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/United_States_high_school_national_records_in_trac k_and_field) by only one hundredth of a second. It was the fastest time by a junior athlete (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Junior_(athletics)) in the 2012 season and the fastest by a junior since Ramil Guliyev (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Ramil_Guliyev)'s 20.04 in 2009. His time in the 100 m ties Abraham Hall for second fastest by a junior in the 2012 season, behind only Adam Gemili (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Adam_Gemili). He was Track and Field News (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Track_and_Field_News) "High School Athlete of the Year" in 2012.[4] (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/#cite_note-4) Hill also clocked a 4.25 40-yard dash (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/40-yard_dash) at a Nike Sparq Camp.[citation needed (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed)] Hill ran a wind-assisted (+5.0 m/s) 9.98 in the 100-meter dash at the 2013 Hutchinson NJCCA Championships.[5] (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/#cite_note-5)
He was a USA Today (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/USA_Today) All-American track and field selection in 2012.[6] (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/#cite_note-6)



Now here's what is going to happen, everytime Hill does anything good or bad you will think of Avante:toast

[spurraider21]

this is the raiders thread, Crickets

i dont need the wikipedia cutout of some fuck from the chiefs

[Clipper Nation]

Two words for tonights game....Tyreek Hill.
Two more words: muffed punt.

[Avante]

Two more words: muffed punt.

Will you ever learn little guy, hahaha`~~~

Stupid, talk about a rookie, sheesh~~~~~~~~~~~

[spurraider21]

Chiefs 10-3
Raiders 10-3
Broncos 8-4

chiefs own decisive tiebreaker.

remaining games:

Raiders: @ Chargers, vs Colts, @ Broncos
Chiefs: vs Titans, vs Broncos, @ Chargers

[Avante]

Tyreek Hill 14
Raiders 13

[Holden_Caulfield]

didnt watch the game but 41 passes for 117 yards. lol wtf

[Avante]

this is the raiders thread, Crickets

i dont need the wikipedia cutout of some fuck from the chiefs

That was some fuck from the Chiefs, huh?

Ha~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Clipper Nation]

this is the raiders thread, Crickets

i dont need the wikipedia cutout of some fuck from the chiefs
I like how he left out the part about how Hill strangled his pregnant girlfriend and got kicked out of Oklahoma State. Real classy guy for Crickets to be slurping.

[Avante]

I like how he left out the part about how Hill strangled his pregnant girlfriend and got kicked out of Oklahoma State. Real classy guy for Crickets to be slurping.

translation

Ok ok ok, I once again ran my mouth way too early in a game, and ended up looking stupid as Hill did exactly what Avante was talking about. When will I ever learn to slow down and give things some time, yep, like Avante does.

I did the same thing in the Bills vs Raiders game, ya think I'd learn by now.

[lefty]

We stacked

[Avante]

One more draft, a couple stud free agents away from being the team to replace the Pats as the AFC bully. Wnning on the road is the true indicator of just how good young teams are, as we can see that is these Raiders. I have no problems seeing them in the AFC Champs game in 2017.

[lefty]

We megastacked

[spurraider21]

Thank you Tennessee

[spurraider21]

Raiders lead the NFL with seven pro bowlers. Hopefully we have zero play in the game cause were in the big one. truth be told reggie Nelson has no business being there but marquette king definitely should be

[Avante]

Raiders lead the NFL with seven pro bowlers. Hopefully we have zero play in the game cause were in the big one. truth be told reggie Nelson has no business being there but marquette king definitely should be

Dude, it's been a great season, and yes the silver & black are on the way back. Great time to be a Raider fan, but don't get silly, ok? There will be no SB this season and that should be obvious, but you will see one in the Del Rio/Carr era. just don't be the silly...my team so I get goofy...fan, ok? Keep it real, alright?

[spurraider21]

Dude, it's been a great season, and yes the silver & black are on the way back. Great time to be a Raider fan, but don't get silly, ok? There will be no SB this season and that should be obvious, but you will see one in the Del Rio/Carr era. just don't be the silly...my team so I get goofy...fan, ok? Keep it real, alright?
SLOW DOWN~~~~~~~

I said "hopefully"

And if they get a bye it just takes one upset

[Clipper Nation]

Crickets really just can't handle the fact that other people besides him have opinions on football. He wants to be the only one talking at all times since he thinks he's the authority on all things football.

[Avante]

SLOW DOWN~~~~~~~

I said "hopefully"

And if they get a bye it just takes one upset

Ok man.

Only way NE doesn't rep the AFC is an injury to Brady.

[Avante]

Crickets really just can't handle the fact that other people besides him have opinions on football. He wants to be the only one talking at all times since he thinks he's the authority on all things football.

Dude, seen Babe Parilli QB the Boston Patriots, saw your Chargers with Tobin Rote at QB. So my opinions are based on about 55 years of experience.

You want some work done on your car, you can have that kid who started three months ago, or the owner of the garage, who opened up 50 years ago, so who works on your car?

[spurraider21]

rip

[Mugen]

fml

[monosylab1k]

Brutal. Really wanted a Pats-Raiders showdown tbh.

[Robz4000]

Just miserable luck. AFC playoffs are gonna be an absolute shitfest.

[midnightpulp]

:bang :bang :bang

[DarrinS]

That sucks. What a shame.

[Darth_Pelican]

That Lefty jinx

[Trainwreck2100]

We stacked

de stacked

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

:lol

[SanAntonioSpurs23]

Merry Christmas faggots

[Will Hunting]

Yeah, a tuck rule rematch would have been great, that's really shitty.

[tlongII]

Tough break. Looks like a Cowboys vs Patriots Super Bowl now. That would be good though.

[spurraider21]

Tough break.
:pctoss

[Chinook]

Just miserable luck. AFC playoffs are gonna be an absolute shitfest.

I had the Raiders (and Cowboys) losing in the second round anyway.

[HarlemHeat37]

Haven't watched McGloin(sp?) play, but if he's even just average, they'll be fine..Carr is pretty good, but he has arguably the best supporting cast in the NFL, tbh..

[spurraider21]

Haven't watched McGloin(sp?) play, but if he's even just average, they'll be fine..Carr is pretty good, but he has arguably the best supporting cast in the NFL, tbh..
I'm not a fan. He lights up third stringers in preseason but only has one good regular season performance (against Houston a couple years ago). Weak armed yet aggressive. Bad combo. Sadly we are going to rely on defense making game changing plays... Sacks, turnovers, etc

[phxspurfan]

I'm not a fan. He lights up third stringers in preseason but only has one good regular season performance (against Houston a couple years ago). Weak armed yet aggressive. Bad combo. Sadly we are going to rely on defense making game changing plays... Sacks, turnovers, etc

The run game is strong though. Gonna be like watching early season Minnesota games where they dumb down the offense and rely on defense (and lots of Janikowski FGs)

[spurraider21]

The run game is strong though. Gonna be like watching early season Minnesota games where they dumb down the offense and rely on defense (and lots of Janikowski FGs)run game and o-line is strong, but how much of that effectiveness was due to the threat of Carr's passing?

bradford is better than mcgloin and we dont have that kind of defense to rely on. they can make plays and force turnovers but they give up chunks and points, too

[lefty]

Sorry for the jinx tbh

[Fabbs]

Haven't watched McGloin(sp?) play, but if he's even just average, they'll be fine..Carr is pretty good, but he has arguably the best supporting cast in the NFL, tbh..
He is at least average. Don't let the previous years stats be a measure. Those were suck ass Raider teams. I watched him live vs the Chargers. He's got some game. If Raider coaches can devise a good game plan to fit his skills, Raider playoff hopes are still alive.

[spurraider21]

Haven't watched McGloin(sp?) play, but if he's even just average, they'll be fine..Carr is pretty good, but he has arguably the best supporting cast in the NFL, tbh..
:lmao..

[HarlemHeat37]

:lmao..

I didn't watch the game, but I heard the QB play was poor, so not sure why that's funny, tbh:lol

Allowing 24 points to a terrible Broncos offense should be a larger concern IMO..

[Thebesteva]

I didn't watch the game, but I heard the QB play was poor, so not sure why that's funny, tbh:lol

Allowing 24 points to a terrible Broncos offense should be a larger concern IMO.. The highlight of our season is the Raiders are probably not going to win it all...otherwise the second half of the season was a disaster.

[HarlemHeat37]

^^I don't dislike the Raiders, tbh..they've been irrelevant for so long and I don't really dislike any of their players outside of that pussy Crabtree..

The Chiefs, OTOH, ew..

:lmao Crabtree..

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[spurraider21]

^^I don't dislike the Raiders, tbh..they've been irrelevant for so long and I don't really dislike any of their players outside of that pussy Crabtree..

The Chiefs, OTOH, ew..

:lmao Crabtree..

815731523592798209
denver refs tbh :lol...

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[Pelicans78]

They would have had a hard time beating Pittsburgh even if they had the second seed.

[spurraider21]

They would have had a hard time beating Pittsburgh even if they had the second seed.agreed. it was over once carr went down, sadly

[Pelicans78]

agreed. it was over once carr went down, sadly

And with Carr, it would have been a very close game. Would have been fun to watch.

[spurraider21]

All Connor Cook throws vs Denver

https://streamable.com/oabo3

[Avante]

Raider fans need to just be glad they are back in the mix and be patient. They weren't going to do anything this season but maybe win vs Houston with Carr. That should be obvious. Next season is when things start getting serious and that should also be obvious. An AFC title game a very real goal in 2017.

They have that great coach/QB combo combined with youth, a killer combination.

[HarlemHeat37]

If the Raiders had an average QB like Matt Moore, they would still be a darkhorse contender, this year IMO..

A lot of hyperbole based on Carr being replaced by terrible alternatives:lol..

[Avante]

If the Raiders had an average QB like Matt Moore, they would still be a darkhorse contender, this year IMO..

A lot of hyperbole based on Carr being replaced by terrible alternatives:lol..

The Raiders only beat one playoff team, Houston. KC spanked them twice. Atlanta beat them.

[spurraider21]

They played the 4th toughest strength of schedule in the league this year... Behind Denver, Cleveland, and Philly. And the Raiders 2017 schedule projects to be the 2nd toughest.

[Avante]

They played the 4th toughest strength of schedule in the league this year... Behind Denver, Cleveland, and Philly. And the Raiders 2017 schedule projects to be the 2nd toughest.

They played how many playoff teams? Try three....and only beat one.

Please stop, ok? YES...YES....the Raiders are back and there will be GREAT days ahead, ok? Just keep it real, ok? Don't get all silly with...I like the Raiders.

I like the Raiders also, love that track guys connection and the history. So many great/interesting players.

[spurraider21]

They played the 4th toughest strength of schedule in the league this year... Behind Denver, Cleveland, and Philly. And the Raiders 2017 schedule projects to be the 2nd toughest.


Chirp Chirp

[Avante]

Time to grow up spurraider.

[spurraider21]

Time to grow up spurraider.
If only you gave your victims a chance to grow up before trying to take advantage of them

[Darth_Pelican]

If only you gave your victims a chance to grow up before trying to take advantage of them

:lmao

[Avante]

If only you gave your victims a chance to grow up before trying to take advantage of them

Here I am the only poster here who can really talk your Raiders and look at how you act, why? I can still see the great Art Powell who could play today catching long passes. Clem Daneils breaking away, he was the first great Raider RB.

Grow up, ok?

Bo Roberson was a long jumper/sprinter/footballer at Cornell. He'd win the silver medal at the 1960 Olympics with a 26-7 jump, he was the roots to that Raider speed tree. The first speedy Raider.

[Robz4000]

If only you gave your victims a chance to grow up before trying to take advantage of them

RobinLopez.gif

[IronMexican]

7-2 going into the bye with a huge win :hat

Chiefs are still a problem as they're 1 win behind us, but playoffs looking incredibly likely.


Also wow what a game to be at. I drive up to Oakland every year for one game, and the last time I saw a win was when Andrew Walter beat the Steelers in 2006 tbh :lol

Awww shit Nnamdi beasted that game.

[Clipper Nation]

If only you gave your victims a chance to grow up before trying to take advantage of them
http://i.imgur.com/DgaKtuH.jpg

[spurraider21]

Awww shit Nnamdi beasted that game.yeah, 2 picks including a pick-6. and chris carr had a 90 some yard INT touchdown. foreshadowing the greatness of the other carr, tbh

[Avante]

As I said all 2016 was about was returning to respectability and if Carr had been there maybe they do get by the Texans but that's it.

2017 and from there on out for awhile the Raiders will be "SERIOUSLY" in the mix.

I couldn't believe how many Raider fans I talked to that really thought they could win without Carr.

[lefty]

Sorry for the jinx tbh

[Robz4000]

Solid work :tu

[lefty]

Solid work :tu
:lol

But srsly injuries suck

They would have gone far if not for Carr 's injury imo

[Robz4000]

Probably the AFCCG at least

[lefty]

Probably the AFCCG at least

Yup

[spurraider21]

Sin City Raiders :hat

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[RD2191]

Hopefully the Carr breaks his back next season. Fucking raiders should've come to SA.

[spurraider21]

Hopefully the Carr breaks his back next season. Fucking raiders should've come to SA.damn bro. at the very least this confirms u aint no christian anymore :lol

[spurraider21]

some terms of the raiders deal... :wow mark davis pulled a fast one

1) $750 million in public funding, $650 million from adelson (or if he backs out, goldman sachs), $500 million combined from davis and the NFL
2) raiders have naming rights of the stadium
3) raiders rent only $1 per year
4) raiders keep revenue from signage/sponsorship


http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2017/1/26/14406250/las-vegas-stadium-details-raiders-naming-rights-one-dollar-rent-preferred-site

[spurraider21]

meanwhile in LA...

http://wxos.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/stan-kroenke-dean-spanos.jpg


:lmao

[Clipper Nation]

some terms of the raiders deal... :wow mark davis pulled a fast one

1) $750 million in public funding, $650 million from adelson (or if he backs out, goldman sachs), $500 million combined from davis and the NFL
2) raiders have naming rights of the stadium
3) raiders rent only $1 per year
4) raiders keep revenue from signage/sponsorship


http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2017/1/26/14406250/las-vegas-stadium-details-raiders-naming-rights-one-dollar-rent-preferred-site
All that and you're still Alice Smith's bitch. And no, hiring Fagano doesn't change that - he always shits down his leg against Andy Reid and Alice.

:lol Raiduhz

[spurraider21]

http://wxos.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/stan-kroenke-dean-spanos.jpg

[Clipper Nation]

http://i.imgur.com/FQ3XAgD.jpg

[spurraider21]

820080580570140672

[Clipper Nation]

http://i.imgur.com/pOSbgp6.jpg

[spurraider21]

Adelson is out of the stadium deal. Goldman Sachs will replace him as financier.

[Clipper Nation]

How long before Goldman Sachs also realizes that the Raiduhz are a bad investment?

[Will Hunting]

How long before Goldman Sachs also realizes that the Raiduhz are a bad investment?
Goldman will probably be able to get the financing they provide as a series of tax free muni bonds :lol

[Fabbs]

Adelson is out of the stadium deal. Goldman Sachs will replace him as financier.
From Field of Schemes:

Though if you believe the scuttlebutt that Adelson only did this to block hotel tax money from going to a convention center that would compete with his, maybe he won’t care so much, especially after the convention center got its money anyway.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

So no LV?

[Clipper Nation]

How long before Goldman Sachs also realizes that the Raiduhz are a bad investment?

Apparently not very long:


The Oakland Raiders' bid to relocate to Las Vegas has hit another financial roadblock that could put the team's planned move to the desert in jeopardy, a source told ESPN's Ramona Shelburne.

With billionaire casino mogul Sheldon Adelson angrily withdrawing from the Raiders' stadium deal on Monday, investment bank Goldman Sachs is also re-evaluating its relationship with the planned deal, a source close to the negotiations told Shelburne.


http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18590188/oakland-raiders-las-vegas-stadium-deal-doubt-goldman-sachs-re-evaluates-involvement

:lmao Raiduhz

[Clipper Nation]

826304659929313280

:lmao

[UNT Eagles 2016]

And the best part:

"
However, Adelson was apparently dismayed at details of the proposed agreement, which included, according to the Nevada Independent (https://thenevadaindependent.com/article/raiders-vegas-ill-buy-dollar), the Raiders paying just $1 a year to rent the facility, plus the team controlling aspects such as scheduling UNLV football games at the facility, stadium decorations and revenue from the sale of naming rights.
"


So playing in the stadium is worth a McDouble a year? :lmao

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Goldman Sachs is OUT!

[Clipper Nation]

How long before Goldman Sachs also realizes that the Raiduhz are a bad investment?

I called it. Me.


One day after billionaire business mogul Sheldon Adelson pulled the plug on his financial backing of the proposed Raiders stadium in Las Vegas, Goldman Sachs — the next chief financial backer — followed suit.

A source familiar with the $1.9 billion stadium deal told NBC Bay Area that the investment bank is not committed to financially supporting the stadium deal unless future proceedings seat Adelson at the table.



http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Sheldon-Adelson-Goldman-Sachs-Oakland-Raiders-Las-Vegas-Stadium-Deal-412303063.html?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_BAYBrand (http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Sheldon-Adelson-Goldman-Sachs-Oakland-Raiders-Las-Vegas-Stadium-Deal-412303063.html?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_BAYBrand)

:lmao Raiders

[Clipper Nation]

A tragedy in four parts:


some terms of the raiders deal... :wow mark davis pulled a fast one

1) $750 million in public funding, $650 million from adelson (or if he backs out, goldman sachs), $500 million combined from davis and the NFL
2) raiders have naming rights of the stadium
3) raiders rent only $1 per year
4) raiders keep revenue from signage/sponsorship


http://www.silverandblackpride.com/2017/1/26/14406250/las-vegas-stadium-details-raiders-naming-rights-one-dollar-rent-preferred-site


meanwhile in LA...

http://wxos.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/stan-kroenke-dean-spanos.jpg


:lmao


Adelson is out of the stadium deal. Goldman Sachs will replace him as financier.


Goldman Sachs is OUT!

[Will Hunting]

So you were lol'ing spurraider for the raiders moving to vegas, and now you're lol'ing him since they're staying in Oakland?

[Robz4000]

Enjoy playing another decade in the Coliseum Raiduhz...

[Clipper Nation]

So you were lol'ing spurraider for the raiders moving to vegas, and now you're lol'ing him since they're staying in Oakland?

I'm just lol'ing the Raiders in general, tbh.

In fairness: if the Vegas thing doesn't work out (which seems to be the likely outcome now), I could see Davis trying San Diego next. If he can get a stadium built in Mission Valley, I might actually root for the Raiders as a big fuck-you to Dean and the Chargers.

[spurraider21]

I'm just lol'ing the Raiders in general, tbh.

In fairness: if the Vegas thing doesn't work out (which seems to be the likely outcome now), I could see Davis trying San Diego next. If he can get a stadium built in Mission Valley, I might actually root for the Raiders as a big fuck-you to Dean and the Chargers.
:lol Raider Nation


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIVlYOx49sE

[UNT Eagles 2016]

I'm just lol'ing the Raiders in general, tbh.

In fairness: if the Vegas thing doesn't work out (which seems to be the likely outcome now), I could see Davis trying San Diego next. If he can get a stadium built in Mission Valley, I might actually root for the Raiders as a big fuck-you to Dean and the Chargers.
I actually hope they move to Utah or San Antonio, tbh.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Or portland

[MultiTroll]

While it was nice to see Davis not give scamcino owner Adelson all he was trying to extort.....

Davis went completely to the other extreme. :lol

NFL and Casino owners. No end to their greed.
Ain't gonna happen, but if only the entire public would boycott both the NFL and Scamcinos for an entire season. Bring these phuckers to their knees. Well I guess it would take 10 years of boycotting to dry up their gold piles.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

While it was nice to see Davis not give scamcino owner Adelson all he was trying to extort.....

Davis went completely to the other extreme. :lol

NFL and Casino owners. No end to their greed.
Ain't gonna happen, but if only the entire public would boycott both the NFL and Scamcinos for an entire season. Bring these phuckers to their knees. Well I guess it would take 10 years of boycotting to dry up their gold piles.

A bunch of injuns tbh. Both kinds.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Wouldn't mind a 3rd LA team honestly.

[Darth_Pelican]

https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15894803_10155135904899171_5268385631659574813_n.j pg?oh=93fa7686a562aa48da08d9fc7586f839&oe=590FE2D4

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Tom Brady gonna build Trump's wall in Mexico for him with all those perfectly placed rocks

[spurraider21]

bank of america steps in for adelson/sachs... league expected to approve the move in a vote later this month

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[spurraider21]

How long before Goldman Sachs also realizes that the Raiduhz are a bad investment?


Apparently not very long:

The Oakland Raiders' bid to relocate to Las Vegas has hit another financial roadblock that could put the team's planned move to the desert in jeopardy, a source told ESPN's Ramona Shelburne.

With billionaire casino mogul Sheldon Adelson angrily withdrawing from the Raiders' stadium deal on Monday, investment bank Goldman Sachs is also re-evaluating its relationship with the planned deal, a source close to the negotiations told Shelburne.


http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18590188/oakland-raiders-las-vegas-stadium-deal-doubt-goldman-sachs-re-evaluates-involvement

:lmao Raiduhz


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:lmao


I called it. Me.


One day after billionaire business mogul Sheldon Adelson pulled the plug on his financial backing of the proposed Raiders stadium in Las Vegas, Goldman Sachs — the next chief financial backer — followed suit.

A source familiar with the $1.9 billion stadium deal told NBC Bay Area that the investment bank is not committed to financially supporting the stadium deal unless future proceedings seat Adelson at the table.



http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Sheldon-Adelson-Goldman-Sachs-Oakland-Raiders-Las-Vegas-Stadium-Deal-412303063.html?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_BAYBrand (http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Sheldon-Adelson-Goldman-Sachs-Oakland-Raiders-Las-Vegas-Stadium-Deal-412303063.html?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_BAYBrand)

:lmao Raiders


A tragedy in four parts:


I'm just lol'ing the Raiders in general, tbh.

In fairness: if the Vegas thing doesn't work out (which seems to be the likely outcome now), I could see Davis trying San Diego next. If he can get a stadium built in Mission Valley, I might actually root for the Raiders as a big fuck-you to Dean and the Chargers.


bank of america steps in for adelson/sachs... league expected to approve the move in a vote later this month

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[Clipper Nation]

:lmao Mark Davis: the ultimate welfare queen
:lmao Can't even move a team correctly, needed Daddy Goodell to beg Bank of America to prop him up
:lmao Raiders

[Avante]

Never have understood how a fan of the .....HAVE NEVER WON ANYTHING SINCE THE DAYS OF THE OLD AFL....Chargers could laugh at anything.

My Niners totally suck right now and will be sucking for...???? No way I'm poking fun at anyones team.

A Charger fan poking fun at the FAR FAR FARRRRRR more successful Raiders.....:rolleyes

[spurraider21]

:lmao Mark Davis: the ultimate welfare queen
:lmao Can't even move a team correctly, needed Daddy Goodell to beg Bank of America to prop him up
:lmao Raiders


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[spurraider21]

League approved move to Vegas. 31-1 vote.

Awesome

[Robz4000]

Wonder who the one vote against the move was from?

[spurraider21]

Wonder who the one vote against the move was from?
Miami

[Robz4000]

Miami

Of course

[spurraider21]

Raiders blazing the trail while chargers are stuck as Kroenke's bitch :lol

[spurraider21]

if anybody is interested, they just opened up deposits for seat licenses for the new stadium... big link on top of the raiders website

http://www.raiders.com/

[UNT Eagles 2016]

LEZZ GO TO VEGAAAAAAAAAHS TO WATCH DA RAIDAAAAAAAAAHS

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[MultiTroll]

Wonder who the one vote against the move was from?
Miami owner Steven Ross:

"There's very little public money available for teams today. And if you own a team, you should have the deep pockets to deliver," Ross said. "You need some public money for infrastructure and things like that. But with the costs of stadiums today, our country can't afford to put all of the money in those things."
The Los Angeles market was open when Ross was turned down for public money, but he remained in South Florida.
"I reflected and said, 'What is my position? And what's important to the city?' I believe in cities and I believe the Dolphins are an important, integral part of the city. It's not a selfish issue," Ross said. "You do what you know is right. When you accept certain positions you have to take certain responsibilities. You have to understand what you're doing. And you know what your responsibility is. And life's not all about money."
Ross' perspective is very different than from Davis and most of the NFL owners. He's made plenty of money and did try to pry public money from the state to help pay for stadium renovations. However, he didn't threaten to leave after he didn't receive any money and opted to privately finance the cost.
"You don't play with communities like that," Ross said. "I was looking to see what's best for the community. And that's how we do our developments. And that's why we've been successful. And life shouldn't be a question of greed."
:toast

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Miami owner Steven Ross:

"There's very little public money available for teams today. And if you own a team, you should have the deep pockets to deliver," Ross said. "You need some public money for infrastructure and things like that. But with the costs of stadiums today, our country can't afford to put all of the money in those things."
The Los Angeles market was open when Ross was turned down for public money, but he remained in South Florida.
"I reflected and said, 'What is my position? And what's important to the city?' I believe in cities and I believe the Dolphins are an important, integral part of the city. It's not a selfish issue," Ross said. "You do what you know is right. When you accept certain positions you have to take certain responsibilities. You have to understand what you're doing. And you know what your responsibility is. And life's not all about money."
Ross' perspective is very different than from Davis and most of the NFL owners. He's made plenty of money and did try to pry public money from the state to help pay for stadium renovations. However, he didn't threaten to leave after he didn't receive any money and opted to privately finance the cost.
"You don't play with communities like that," Ross said. "I was looking to see what's best for the community. And that's how we do our developments. And that's why we've been successful. And life shouldn't be a question of greed."
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You just wish more owners (and players) thought that way, instead of the cesspit MOAR MONEY MONEY MONEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!1!1!one!1!!eleven!1!! culture.

[Darth_Pelican]

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/19085348/marshawn-lynch-visits-oakland-raiders-get-deal

[spurraider21]

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[UNT Eagles 2016]

Blue 80 - Hut-Hut going to be fun to watch. KC and DEN are criminally overrated and have crappy offenses. Raiders going to win this division going away. 11-5 +

[spurraider21]

i think the Lynch signing will make Clipper Nation very happy. After years of gargling his balls on this forum, he can now enjoy ingesting Lynch's bodily fluids twice a year

[Darth_Pelican]

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[spurraider21]

would be pretty anticlimactic if this turns out to be another MJD situation :lol... but Lynch is a different animal

[spurraider21]

Conley pick is crazy risky given what he's up against right now... McKenzie says they've done their research, but shit, they really think they're ahead of the police department on this one? If it all gets cleared up its a good pick, but wow.

[IronMexican]

I believe in Reggie and the FO doing their homework. Bitches want a piece of the pie and they'll do whatever when they don't get that handout.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Conley, Lynch, and a guy named Jihad... hmm, when does Aldon Smith return?

[spurraider21]

Raiders relocation fee set at 378 million

Chargers and Rams paid 645 each

:lol chargers

[midnightpulp]

Looking good. :tu

The rebirth of Michael Crabtree.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Looking good. :tu

The rebirth of Michael Crabtree.

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[midnightpulp]

Looking good. :tu

The rebirth of Michael Crabtree.

Looking like shit. :vomit:

The death of David Carr.

And this fuckin' defense.

[spurraider21]

Looking like shit. :vomit:

The death of David Carr.

And this fuckin' defense.
:bang

[midnightpulp]

:bang

So much hope for this season too. Classic raider football and luck.

[spurraider21]

So much hope for this season too. Classic raider football and luck.
Referring to David I instead of Derek

[midnightpulp]

Referring to David I instead of Derek

Insomnia fart. Thankfully Derek is back to hopefully stop the bleeding.