Official 2016 Spurs Offseason Thread

[CGD]

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No one do it!! It's a trap!

What's that gonna cost?

[szkorhetz]

Ezeli probably too. They'll have zero size. But plenty of everything else - and Durant is a great defender.

On bright side, Spurs are clear #2 in west now with OKC heading back to Seattle soon.
Yeah, the only chance now is to go big.
Gasol/LMA and Duncan could certainly do that.

[LakerHater]

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[RD2191]

I don't even care about kd but the dubs dicksucking will be unbearable.

[Bartleby]

ESPN is going to be even more unbearable with its fellating of the Warriors now. Ugh.

pretty much

[DPG21920]

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[palangi]

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This isn't good for them. They lose Ezeli and Bogut. Durrant isn't a rebounder.

[Leetonidas]

lol if no GM wants to help them and trade for bogut. he would be solid for us

[cjw]

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THIS. Thanks, thought that would be the case

[AFBlue]

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This will happen again next year. I assume the best FA center will find their way onto the Warriors.

[LakerHater]

What's that gonna cost?
Yeah, wht happends if nobody does?

[Nathan89]

I guarantee that the league is about to crack down on moving screens.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

Basketball gods wont take kindly to this, I expect glass ankles, twig legs, or slack jaw to get a devastating injury next year.

[LakerHater]

This isn't good for them. They lose Ezeli and Bogut. Durrant isn't a rebounder.

Yeah, he hangs around the perimeter with Steph & Klay.

[Obstructed_View]

This isn't good for them. They lose Ezeli and Bogut. Durrant isn't a rebounder.

Or a center. Or muscular. Or durable.

[K...]

Basketball gods wont take kindly to this, I expect glass ankles, twig legs, or slack jaw to get a devastating injury next year.

Definitely pins a Target on them

[Obstructed_View]

Yeah, wht happends if nobody does?

There's always a Vlade around to fuck shit up for everyone.

[LakerHater]

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[Leetonidas]

if they have to gut their team and especially if they lose bogut and Festus their defense is really going to suffer. hopefully dominoes gets Paul Georged during the Olympics tbh

[loveforthegame]

There's always that one team that will help. Always.

[szkorhetz]

Please RC, call Kobe TBH.
He just love to shut down the superteams. Just put together an Avangers team, with Kobe, trading Diaw for KG and bring back everyone from last year+Gasol+Nowo

[jyra]

It will be interesting to see how they fill their bench. There should be plenty of ring chasers. RJ with back to back championships? :lol

[Hoops Czar]

THIS. Thanks, thought that would be the case

And when the cap rises again, it won't be such a huge problem.

[CGD]

Bogut + trade goodies + Full MLE available > two years of Gasol at 40/2yrs

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[DPG21920]

The FA & Trade market is about to mega heat up. Teams now know where KD is going, who's left and what the bar is to beat. They will do what they can to compete knowing they have to make some moves.

Heck, GS has to trade at least Bogut, so will be interesting to see who is the villain and takes him on :lol.

[szkorhetz]

Bogut + trade goodies + Full MLE available > two years of Gasol at 40/2yrs

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Depends on. If Duncan comes back: Gasol, if not, Bogut.

[look_at_g_shred]

The FA & Trade market is about to mega heat up. Teams now know where KD is going, who's left and what the bar is to beat. They will do what they can to compete knowing they have to make some moves.

Heck, GS has to trade at least Bogut, so will be interesting to see who is the villain and takes him on :lol.
Probably a team who doesn't care who wins next year...sixers? Nets?

[cjw]

And when the cap rises again, it won't be such a huge problem.

Except for the fact that it's not skyrocketing in coming years like it is this year. Durant's cap charge and Curry's will eat up a majority of the room below $107ish. Durant has to opt out next year or else dollars get too hard once Curry gets raise.



Bogut + trade goodies + Full MLE available > two years of Gasol at 40/2yrs

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Spurs wouldn't have MLE if they trade for Bogut with cap space. Trade goodies are interesting though. What the heck is GS going to have to give up?

i'd be very surprised if they don't have a trade lined up already.

[peacemaker885]

The question nownis will Pau sign with Spurs or look for the highest $$$?

[DPG21920]

IMO, and I have to see what OKC does in trades (what they have to give up to dump Bogut which I don't think will be much) and who comes to GS, GS still has work to do and can be vulnerable this season if they can't find a good starting C and they can't rely on bench.

But they are so stacked :lol. It should be fun to watch as I was saying earlier. The good news is OKC is done as a contender (but they will still be a very solid team). MEM got better, but what is their ceiling? LAC didn't get better at all, but could still be good.

SA, if they can do a little bit of work is right behind GS now. LAC is close, MEM might end up being right there if they are healthy, but OKC is gone.

It's like the East now where we know who the clear cut favorites are and there are a handful of teams that might be able to surprise GS/CLE if things go well.

Injuries happen. Trades happen. Youth blowing up happens. We will see.

[DPG21920]

But if SA whiffs on Pau, Tim retires and they possibly lose West/Boban, SA will take a step back. Which is ok if it means getting a year to scout GS and really make a great push next year to reload.

[Robz4000]

Punt on the season tbh. Don't sign anyone, just give Manu and Tim a bunch of money and trade LMA if he isn't on board for tanking a season.

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They left off Pau. As the GM at Memphis, he took one up the ass so his Lakers could get him, for FUCKING nothing in return. He's really good at getting what he wants.

[AFBlue]

Bogut + trade goodies + Full MLE available > two years of Gasol at 40/2yrs

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Something tells me the Warriors wouldn't trade with the Spurs.

[NASpurs]

Watch Pau go to GSW for the minimum :lol

[K...]

They left off Pau. As the GM at Memphis, he took one up the ass so his Lakers could get him, for FUCKING nothing in return. He's really good at getting what he wants.

Jeez I bright this up a day ago, but Marc gasol is not nothing. Franchise player really. Better than pau probably

[Bartleby]

Jeez I bright this up a day ago, but Marc gasol is not nothing. Franchise player really. Better than pau probably

Nobody knew that at the time though.

[HarlemHeat37]

Zaza Pachulia makes the most sense, at this point..

Only way to beat GS will be through injury, why not sign the dirtiest player in the game?

[Spurs 4 The Win]

Punt on the season tbh. Don't sign anyone, just give Manu and Tim a bunch of money and trade LMA if he isn't on board for tanking a season.

Yeah punt the whole season away when you are the clear 2nd best team in the West. Because injuries never happen... fukin dumbass

[Robz4000]

Yeah punt the whole season away when you are the clear 2nd best team in the West. Because injuries never happen... fukin dumbass

If your only hope is injuries its better to just try for a high draft pick and plan for the future. If you wanna be delusional be my guest though.

[Ice009]

Yeah punt the whole season away when you are the clear 2nd best team in the West. Because injuries never happen... fukin dumbass

Unreal, isn't it? LOL some fans around here have no fucking idea what it's like to be in the lottery or a fan of 95% of the other teams.

You never, ever throw away a full season if you have the possibility to be a top 3 team.

[Robz4000]

Unreal, isn't it? LOL some fans around here have no fucking idea what it's like to be in the lottery or a fan of 95% of the other teams.

You never, ever throw away a full season if you have the possibility to be a top 3 team.

Difference is the Spurs aren't a perineal lottery team; tank for a year, draft the best player possible, and go for CP3/Westchimp/etc next offseason. The core of Kawhi/LDN is young enough to survive one year of tanking.

[DPG21920]

If your only hope is injuries its better to just try for a high draft pick and plan for the future. If you wanna be delusional be my guest though.

Dude, that is ridiculous. SA *can* still be good. GS, while stacked, can possibly have some holes as well. You don't punt a season (which is impossible to do with KL/LMA/DG anyways :lol) because there is a great team.

[Mr. Body]

This. The "beta" shit reeks with bias. Different story if he was our beta no doubt.

He'd be alpha if he came here or went to the Celtics. He didn't want that.

[Nathan89]

But if SA whiffs on Pau, Tim retires and they possibly lose West/Boban, SA will take a step back. Which is ok if it means getting a year to scout GS and really make a great push next year to reload.

Why doing keep mentioning scouting and watching to see what GSW does? You can't guard a team like that. To even have a shot you will have have a significantly more talented team to compete. You can't just make a couple of tweaks. We could watch them for a decade and the roster as it stands won't be able to compete.

[Patrick Bateman]

Watch Pau go to GSW for the minimum :lol

THEN you can sign Matt Bonner again.

[Ron Swanson]

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[objective]

I hope the Durant move motivates Duncan to come back.

Then they don't need to do anything stupid to get Pau, like trading Green. Can't trade Green now with all the guys he'll be needed to cover against GS.

Sign Manu, Bertans, Boban and some fringe big or bring Milutinov.

Cross fingers and hope for the best.

[Ice009]

He'd be alpha if he came here or went to the Celtics. He didn't want that.

Exactly. I'm quite shocked he chose the Warriors because of the beta backlash that would come. This guy truly is a beta. Would have been an Alpha on most other teams, but this stupid fucker went to the one team where he'd be a definite beta.

[DPG21920]

Why doing keep mentioning scouting and watching to see what GSW does? You can't guard a team like that. To even have a shot you will have have a significantly more talented team to compete. You can't just make a couple of tweaks. We could watch them for a decade and the roster as it stands won't be able to compete.

What? I'm talking about next season (not this year, but next). This year may very well end up being the year of GS and there is nothing SA can do. SA doesn't have a ton of room to re-tool. They likely will next year. They can see how GS plays, how they look and target specific types of players next year when SA has actual money to rebuild.

I don't know where on Earth you got what you said from what I have said.

Spurs may not have any choice but to take a step back. You cant just invent players to sign. If Tim retires, Pau says no and SA has limited money (which is the case) there is literally nothing they can do.

I said worst case, if that happens, SA gets to see how GS looks and when they have a lot more FA's next year and more money to truly improve, they can go at it then.

[GSH]

Time to move on:

Spurs working out Lorbek

https://t.co/QOgfM9LiVz (https://t.co/QOgfM9LiVz)

[TheGoldStandard]

Wonder where Westbrook will go or if Presti will talk with him and see if he wants to abandon ship?

[DPG21920]

Time to move on:

Spurs working out Lorbek

https://t.co/QOgfM9LiVz (https://t.co/QOgfM9LiVz)

It's only 20 seconds, but wow, he looks stiff as hell.

[YGWHI]

Then they don't need to do anything stupid to get Pau, like trading Green. Can't trade Green now with all the guys he'll be needed to cover against GS.

If they can land Pau, it's likely they'll trade Boris not Danny.

[TimDunkem]

I hope the Durant move motivates Duncan to come back.
Leave the man alone. No need to waste another year of his life making him play on one leg just to be knocked out of the playoffs before the conference finals because he was the only big who showed up.

[TimDunkem]

Time to move on:

Spurs working out Lorbek

https://t.co/QOgfM9LiVz (https://t.co/QOgfM9LiVz)
Tim Duncan is more agile than this guy.

[Ron Swanson]

Time to move on:

Spurs working out Lorbek

https://t.co/QOgfM9LiVz (https://t.co/QOgfM9LiVz)


:lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2::lobt2:

[MaNu4Tres]

But if SA whiffs on Pau, Tim retires and they possibly lose West/Boban, SA will take a step back. Which is ok if it means getting a year to scout GS and really make a great push next year to reload.

You don't need to wait a year to figure out how GS will play. You know how GS will play now. Long and versatile 1-5. Green, Iggy, Durant, Klay, Curry will be utilized a TON.

Harkless would be a great addition instead of Gasol moving forward for the next 3-4 years w/ Green and Kawhi. They will not only be able to match up well with Warriors style of play, but they'll be able to match up vs. anyone else and have advantages especially on the defensive end.

I hope Gasol signs with Portland.

[Mal]

Duncan might as well just retire, since the ring will not be an option

[Chinook]

It's only 20 seconds, but wow, he looks stiff as hell.

When I read your comment, I was think "Well of course he does; he's 32 and hasn't played in two seasons." Then I saw that vid and we like, "Holy hell, that guy is barely moving."

[GSH]

Tim Duncan is more agile than this guy.


That's not the point. This is reality right now. We're going to see at least a couple of these guys on the roster this year. Might as well start following that, and get off the Durant subject. That one is done, and there's still a team in SA.

[DPG21920]

Zaza Pachulia makes the most sense, at this point..

Only way to beat GS will be through injury, why not sign the dirtiest player in the game?

:lol Bruh. Zaza makes no sense. Either go Pau and try to improve (regardless of fit vs GS) or just take some fliers on young upside and wait until next year to make big push.

[DPG21920]

When I read your comment, I was think "Well of course he does; he's 32 and hasn't played in two seasons." Then I saw that vid and we like, "Holy hell, that guy is barely moving."

:lmao Ya. I was willing to give him a break going into the video knowing his background in recent years. But :wow

[siraulo23]

where the spurs moves at? :lol

[K...]

Zaza Pachulia makes the most sense, at this point..

Only way to beat GS will be through injury, why not sign the dirtiest player in the game?

Better contrast with lma too.

[Chinook]

The Spurs winning the title this year would likely be the greatest accomplishment in recent history, outside of Dallas' title. Yes, they can do it. They just need to have it at the right time, for the last time.

[objective]

The tank talk is just joking around, I'm sure.

The whole league is in tank mode. Kawhi and Aldridge are too good to miss the playoffs, even in the West.

[Mal]

:lol Bruh. Zaza makes no sense. Either go Pau and try to improve (regardless of fit vs GS) or just take some fliers on young upside and wait until next year to make big push.

What big push ? Westbrook wont come here, Griffin doesnt make sense. Spurs have to develop players

[DPG21920]

You don't need to wait a year to figure out how GS will play. You know how GS will play now. Long and versatile 1-5. Green, Iggy, Durant, Klay, Curry will be utilized a TON.

Harkless would be a great addition instead of Gasol moving forward for the next 3-4 years w/ Green and Kawhi. They will not only be able to match up well with Warriors style of play, but they'll be able to match up vs. anyone else and have advantages especially on the defensive end.

I hope Gasol signs with Portland.

Well, Harkless aside, I think while we know how GS will play/look, we don't know how it all comes together. Can they find a legit C? Do they have holes due to playing small? How does their defense look (I think it could be great with KD, even losing Bogut).

I know you want Harkless and hate Pau. That is fine. But I find it silly to say that anyone knows how a team adding a major piece like KD will be without seeing them play a single game.

Also, like I said, it's more about the spot SA is in. You cannot invent players to sign. You can only do what you have money-wise and player-wise to work with. Might be a year before SA can "get who they want" and I absolutely think watching GS for a year will influence the type of player they target.

[Leetonidas]

all I'm going to say is aside from Boston in 2008, none of the super teams formed in this century have won a title in their first year. while this is a different scenario for sure I don't think it's a given they win in the first season. chemistry is real. and dominoes is the kind of player that will wilt under the pressure and venom from the media and fans. nothing is a given imo

[DPG21920]

The tank talk is just joking around, I'm sure.

The whole league is in tank mode. Kawhi and Aldridge are too good to miss the playoffs, even in the West.

That is what doesn't make sense :lol. It's literally impossible to tank with LMA/Kawhi/Danny. I maybe agree with signing younger players that don't eat too much into next year's space, but you can't tank.

[NASpurs]

I'm going to the Thunder forum to read what they're saying. There's probably a lot of meth overdoses being reported in Oklahoma as we speak.

[DPG21920]

What big push ? Westbrook wont come here, Griffin doesnt make sense. Spurs have to develop players

Link? I heard LMA won't come to SA too.

[TheGoldStandard]

Link? I heard LMA won't come to SA too.

I wish we could pull a westbrook to san antonio, lol.. that would be epic

[hsxvvd]

How would you all feel if Timmy joined them in GS?

It'd give him his 6th title?

They need a C

[HarlemHeat37]

Link? I heard LMA won't come to SA too.

Aldridge is not a "name", bro..he's known in NBA circles, but he is nowhere near the star that Westbrook or Griffin are..

[tav1]

Is the assumption that a) Spurs move Diaw b) sign Gasol for ~17M/season?

If so, likely not enough money for Boban and Spurs couldn't take any salary back for Diaw, correct? All rookie, exceptions, and vet mins thereafter?

[GSH]

:lol Bruh. Zaza makes no sense. Either go Pau and try to improve (regardless of fit vs GS) or just take some fliers on young upside and wait until next year to make big push.


I really thought Durant was going to sign a 1+1 with the Thunder. But other than that, this postseason has played out pretty much like I expected. The problem is, it looks like the Spurs are stuck in that in-between, where they almost certainly can't win it all, but won't get ping-pong balls either. That makes it just that much harder to improve significantly in 17-18. Personally, I'd still like to see the Spurs have a 40-win season, and have a bunch of expiring contracts at the end of the season. With all the shifting of personnel, and the fact that the East has soaked up a bunch of talent? The Spurs will probably have a 50-54 win season, and a second-round exit. Maybe some of the imports and young guys will be hungry enough to at least put some questions in peoples' minds.

The way I see things right now, just how well the Spurs do this season will depend on how well Parker can move the offense.

[DPG21920]

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[siraulo23]

Woj just tweeted Duncan is strong considering retirement

[DPG21920]

Aldridge is not a "name", bro..he's known in NBA circles, but he is nowhere near the star that Westbrook or Griffin are..

Whether he's as big as Durant/WB/Griffin to me does not matter. Players go where they think the money is and where they can win.

LAL is a huge market with tons of money and can't get meetings. If SA has money, has a talented roster, they will have a shot.

[loveforthegame]

where the spurs moves at? :lol

Spurs are content to sit this summer out. They're probably in Europe scouting some dude in the rec league of a country no one has discovered yet.

[siraulo23]

kinda feel 'sorry' for aldridge, he's stuck with kawhi leonard and tony parker

he's probably regretting his decision right now

[TimDunkem]

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Good. Like I said, no need to waste the man's time and health forcing him to be one of only two bigs showing up in the playoffs just to lose to the GSW super team.

Rest easy, Tim. You did everything you could.

[Mouth is Bleeding]

Woj just tweeted Duncan is strong considering retirement

Worse unfortunately

"Leaning towards strongly" :cry

The considering part would be same old business.

[HarlemHeat37]

Duncan retiring means the Spurs are probably the #1 choice for Gasol now, I suppose..

[NASpurs]

Fuck man, shit is getting dark. Not sure I'm going to enjoy this upcoming season if TD actually calls it quits.

[Steve-O-Matic]

If Duncan retires does any of the $5.6M on his contract for this coming season count against the Spurs cap?

[DPG21920]

It's not surprising unfortunately - Tim opting in made this the likely logical outcome. Still sucks if true - not only because SA will have lost another big, but it's Tim and he's gone.

[timtonymanu]

kinda feel 'sorry' for aldridge, he's stuck with kawhi leonard and tony parker

he's probably regretting his decision right now

6/21 in a crucial Game 5. Yeah I feel "sorry" for the softie who hasn't rung yet.

[houston spurs fan]

Aldridge is not a "name", bro..he's known in NBA circles, but he is nowhere near the star that Westbrook or Griffin are..
Chris Broussard of Spurstalk. Literally states the obvious on every take...

[NASpurs]

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[DPG21920]

If Duncan retires does any of the $5.6M on his contract for this coming season count against the Spurs cap?

Spurs are under no legal obligation to pay Tim if he retires, but they likely will. Whatever they pay him up to his contract amount counts against the cap this year unless they "spread" his salary

[siraulo23]

Fuck man, shit is getting dark. Not sure I'm going to enjoy this upcoming season if TD actually calls it quits.

Damn Woj coulda waited before tweeting that shit :lol

Everyone still buzzing with the durant move, immediately spurs fans get this news

[objective]

Time to move on:

Spurs working out Lorbek

https://t.co/QOgfM9LiVz (https://t.co/QOgfM9LiVz)

Damn. Spurs would be better off signing the guy in black shirt. Almost as big and more mobile.

[HarlemHeat37]

Chris Broussard of Spurstalk. Literally states the obvious on every take...

Um, that's why there was a 5+ page argument vs. me about Aldridge being a legit star, you clown:lol

[AFBlue]

Link? I heard LMA won't come to SA too.

I think we should all acknowledge the extreme circumstances that led LMA to SA. First, he wanted out of Portland because they were a middling playoff team and he was no longer #1. Second, money wasn't his #1 priority. Lastly, he was a "low key" personality that didn't mind coming to a culture where that was the norm.

KD had many if the same traits, but the pull from Golden State was too strong. I don't think there are many other LMAs or KDs out there. I wouldn't include Westbrook in that group.

[TimDunkem]

Damn. Spurs would be better off signing the guy in black shirt. Almost as big and more mobile.
"Not the point. This is the reality right now."

[GSH]

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Unless Pau signs for a steep discount, that would be a huge mistake IMO. Especially if they give him more than 1 year. Bring in some guys to develop, and who will be part of the core going forward.

[Ice009]

I don't think the Spurs are looking to throw away the season completely like some of the fans here are. Fucking nut up and stop being pussies.

[AFBlue]

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Ugh. Well, it makes sense that he waited until the Durant decision. If Durant had come they would r needed Duncan. Now that he's not, both the Spurs and Duncan can move on. :cry

[ElNono]

Well, we got Dejounte Murray and possibly 40 y/o Manu... Dubs get Durant...

:pop: "Kyle Anderson will blossom this season"

[DPG21920]

Unless Pau signs for a steep discount, that would be a huge mistake IMO. Especially if they give him more than 1 year. Bring in some guys to develop, and who will be part of the core going forward.

Surprised you feel that way. If Pau signs a 1+1, no real harm and SA still can compete this year. A SL of: TP/DG/KL/LMA/Pau is better than last year (especially if DG regains form) and can still work on the bench and bring in some youth.

They aren't favorites, but GS still has holes to fill (whose there starting C? Does their bench become less reliable? Does KD/Curry hold up if bench can't spell them as much?).

GS is stacked, but nothing is given at all.

[RD2191]

Fuck you all, I'm gonna cry if timmy retires.

[GSH]

"Not the point. This is the reality right now."


LOL... wrong guy, gray-name. I was the one who said that. And it was true.


Trying to use my own words against me, and get the wrong person. :lol Fuckwit.

[Ice009]

All I can say though is, trade Parker if you can get something decent for him. He'll be useless against GSW.

[palangi]

Unless Pau signs for a steep discount, that would be a huge mistake IMO. Especially if they give him more than 1 year. Bring in some guys to develop, and who will be part of the core going forward.
I think it would be great. Because then we would be forced to get rid of Diaw and Mills and then move on from Bonner. Allowing us as you stated to get younger guys in there to develop.

[timtonymanu]

I don't think the Spurs are looking to throw away the season completely like some of the fans here are. Fucking nut up and stop being pussies.

I agree with this. But Timmy is retiring + Dubs overwhelming title favorites with Durant, grim day for Spurs fans. :lol

[BillMc]

I don't think the Spurs are looking to throw away the season completely like some of the fans here are. Fucking nut up and stop being pussies.
+1

[LakerHater]

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[TimDunkem]

LOL... wrong guy, gray-name. I was the one who said that. And it was true.


Trying to use my own words against me, and get the wrong person. :lol Fuckwit.
Is there a guy more sensitive on these forums than you? I know who I was quoting, little bitch.

[objective]

I would not look forward to 82+ games of Pau yelling like some goat-creature asshole 10 times a game trying to bait the refs into calling a foul or when he gives up an offensive rebound.

[SanAntonioSpurs23]

Fuck Gasol. Tank

[siraulo23]

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Can you imagine Gasol and Aldridge guarding the Warriors :lol

murder

[loveforthegame]

I'm tired of hearing how the Spurs are zeroed in on Gasol.

Either shit or get off the pot. This waiting is making me cranky.

[NASpurs]

All I can say though is, trade Parker if you can get something decent for him. He'll be useless against GSW.

That'll make the season a little bit better for me with everything that's been going on today. Do it RC.

[kjhip1]

Fuck you all, I'm gonna cry if timmy retires.

All ready there bro, it's 0730 in Hawaii and I'm going to start drinking. Just a sad day!

[Joseph Kony]

Some of you are ridiculous. Punt the fucking season? Are you retarded?? :lol

Everyone was cumming themselves over GS all year long and how they couldn't be beaten etc etc. Then Curry hurts his knee. Everyone thinks Thunder are finally breaking through and then they choke. Then everyone thinks GS has the title locked up and Lebron takes it back.

The point is, anything can happen between now and then. This team won 67 games in LMA's FIRST year, our just-turned 25 year old back to back DPOY finished 2nd in MVP voting and will probably be even better next season, and Spurs have a chance to add an all-star big, an aging one albeit, but still. Durbeta hurts his foot or Curry's knee is an issue or his glass ankles shatter and there is no one standing in SA's way. Spurs are easily #2 in the West with OKC gone and have a puncher's chance. I know Spurfan is generally a whiny, entitled bunch but holy fuck, grow a pair of nuts and step back from the ledge

[NASpurs]

Fuck Gasol. Tank

I agree with the first statement.

[BillMc]

Some of you are ridiculous. Punt the fucking season? Are you retarded?? :lol

Everyone was cumming themselves over GS all year long and how they couldn't be beaten etc etc. Then Curry hurts his knee. Everyone thinks Thunder are finally breaking through and then they choke. Then everyone thinks GS has the title locked up and Lebron takes it back.

The point is, anything can happen between now and then. This team won 67 games in LMA's FIRST year, our just-turned 25 year old back to back DPOY finished 2nd in MVP voting and will probably be even better next season, and Spurs have a chance to add an all-star big, an aging one albeit, but still. Durbeta hurts his foot or Curry's knee is an issue or his glass ankles shatter and there is no one standing in SA's way. Spurs are easily #2 in the West with OKC gone and have a puncher's chance. I know Spurfan is generally a whiny, entitled bunch but holy fuck, grow a pair of nuts and step back from the ledge

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[TimDunkem]

Some of you are ridiculous. Punt the fucking season? Are you retarded?? :lol

Everyone was cumming themselves over GS all year long and how they couldn't be beaten etc etc. Then Curry hurts his knee. Everyone thinks Thunder are finally breaking through and then they choke. Then everyone thinks GS has the title locked up and Lebron takes it back.

The point is, anything can happen between now and then. This team won 67 games in LMA's FIRST year, our just-turned 25 year old back to back DPOY finished 2nd in MVP voting and will probably be even better next season, and Spurs have a chance to add an all-star big, an aging one albeit, but still. Durbeta hurts his foot or Curry's knee is an issue or his glass ankles shatter and there is no one standing in SA's way. Spurs are easily #2 in the West with OKC gone and have a puncher's chance. I know Spurfan is generally a whiny, entitled bunch but holy fuck, grow a pair of nuts and step back from the ledge
I agree that you play the games and see what happens, but second in the west?

[palangi]

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[objective]

People are making a little too much out of GS not having a center right now.

They'll get bodies. Hell they might get Willie Reed. Hell, they might get David West.

They're not going to have any issues getting serviceable play from somewhere, I have no doubt.

[HarlemHeat37]

I agree that you play the games and see what happens, but second in the west?

The West is now very ordinary after the projected top 3(GS, SA, LAC), tbh..

[ElNono]

Some of you are ridiculous. Punt the fucking season? Are you retarded?? :lol

Everyone was cumming themselves over GS all year long and how they couldn't be beaten etc etc. Then Curry hurts his knee. Everyone thinks Thunder are finally breaking through and then they choke. Then everyone thinks GS has the title locked up and Lebron takes it back.

The point is, anything can happen between now and then. This team won 67 games in LMA's FIRST year, our just-turned 25 year old back to back DPOY finished 2nd in MVP voting and will probably be even better next season, and Spurs have a chance to add an all-star big, an aging one albeit, but still. Durbeta hurts his foot or Curry's knee is an issue or his glass ankles shatter and there is no one standing in SA's way. Spurs are easily #2 in the West with OKC gone and have a puncher's chance. I know Spurfan is generally a whiny, entitled bunch but holy fuck, grow a pair of nuts and step back from the ledge

The view is nice from the ledge tho, IMVHO

[Robz4000]

Dude, that is ridiculous. SA *can* still be good. GS, while stacked, can possibly have some holes as well. You don't punt a season (which is impossible to do with KL/LMA/DG anyways :lol) because there is a great team.

They'll be the third best team, but it'll be a distant third with a remote chance of winning (only due to injury chances which will be much higher for their own team). In that scenario it'd be better to start planning for the future and get the reloading process started sooner.

[HarlemHeat37]

GSW trying to guard Pau is going to be cruel.

:lol I don't think they'll be worried about that..

[NASpurs]

:lol next year, it's going to be an empty space

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[Joseph Kony]

I agree that you play the games and see what happens, but second in the west?

Who is better? The Clippers? :lol

[Chinook]

People are making a little too much out of GS not having a center right now.

They'll get bodies. Hell they might get Willie Reed. Hell, they might get David West.

They're not going to have any issues getting serviceable play from somewhere, I have no doubt.

Acting as if going from the most impactful defensive player in the league to a "body" isn't a big deal is what doesn't make sense.

[TimDunkem]

The West is now very ordinary after the projected top 3(GS, SA, LAC), tbh..
Between the Big 2, Porker, 40 year old Manu, Icy-Hot, and Fathead, I don't like our chances at all. I hope you're right though.

[Budkin]

kinda feel 'sorry' for aldridge, he's stuck with kawhi leonard and tony parker

he's probably regretting his decision right now

I'm sure he'd be much happier with the Suns.

[SPURt]

Why all the panic? This is what happened when Lebron went to Miami. The Mavs and a Spurs team with no clear superstar/all star beat that team. Relax. The Warriors are guaranteed 4 great players but the other 4 to 6 are going to matter a whole bunch too

[AFBlue]

:lol @ the tank movement

Spurs have the best two-way player in the NBA and a perennial all-star in his second season with the team. They have Pop and a deep bench full of players with different skills.

[GSH]

Surprised you feel that way. If Pau signs a 1+1, no real harm and SA still can compete this year. A SL of: TP/DG/KL/LMA/Pau is better than last year (especially if DG regains form) and can still work on the bench and bring in some youth.

They aren't favorites, but GS still has holes to fill (whose there starting C? Does their bench become less reliable? Does KD/Curry hold up if bench can't spell them as much?).

GS is stacked, but nothing is given at all.


I know nothing is given - that's why they play the games. GSW still has to put the pieces together, and sometimes that's a lot harder than expected. The sad truth is that they will probably be as good as advertised. But, no, it's not a given.

More than anything, I'm doubtful about Tony's declining agility and ability to keep the offense moving against the better/younger teams in the league. That's why I think they're a 50 win team, give or take. It's got nothing to do with GS. Losing Tim is a HUGE adjustment, no matter how people try to shrug it off. The Spurs are weak in the middle, and weak at the point.

To be more than that, IMO, Tony would have to have an Indian Summer season. Kyle and Boban would have to have improved significantly this offseason. Danny would have to keep his 3P stroke from the playoffs, and Boris would have to get barred from Starbucks. That's a lot of "ifs". But think how great it will feel if they all step up?

As for Pau getting more than one year - I'm a big believer in the Sun Tzu idea of concentrating all your assets on a single point of attack. I don't want him choking up a huge chunk of cap next offseason. The Spurs need to be totally free to pick up one big player, and at least one big role-player. This offseason makes it pretty clear that they have to be able to jump in with a max offer right away, to show that big player that they are serious. Opinions are worth what you pay for them, but that's mine.

[Budkin]

Fuck you all, I'm gonna cry if timmy retires.

Me too. One more year please!

[LakerHater]

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[sasaint]

Unless Pau signs for a steep discount, that would be a huge mistake IMO. Especially if they give him more than 1 year. Bring in some guys to develop, and who will be part of the core going forward.

Yes. This is what I have been calling a mini-tank. Bite the bullet and finally get some youth - not just one young guy la la Kawhi. Let the young guys play their butts off and get your cap space for next off-season. We could still pick up a piece or two from the Blazers if they sign Pau.

But consider: Tim retires, Manu wants too much, so we let him walk... Would the possibility of a TP trade imrove... er, increase?

[DPG21920]

Acting as if going from the most impactful defensive player in the league to a "body" isn't a big deal is what doesn't make sense.

Agreed. Plus their bench taking somewhat of a hit (although they don't need much of a bench probably.)

[siraulo23]

I'm sure he'd be much happier with the Suns.

He coulda re-signed with Portland

[objective]

I agree that you play the games and see what happens, but second in the west?

Why wouldn't the Spurs be second?

They were second this past season by a comfortable margin. OKC just got a lot worse and will have to adjust to losing both Durant and Ibaka.

The Clippers lost Jeff Green and Aldrich for nothing.

The Memphis big three are all coming off major injury concerns.

Portland added no one except Evan Turner at an absurd rate, he shouldn't scare anyone.

The Rockets added injury plagued non defenders.

Even if Duncan retires, how are the Spurs not number two but default?

[BillMc]

Vegas odds post Durant's decision.

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[DPG21920]

They'll be the third best team, but it'll be a distant third with a remote chance of winning (only due to injury chances which will be much higher for their own team). In that scenario it'd be better to start planning for the future and get the reloading process started sooner.

Sure, but SA can't tank. You realize that right? There is not lottery pick coming even if SA doesn't sign anyone. I'm fine with SA going youth only and just taking fliers on upside guys, but your lottery pick for one year idea is impossible.

[LakerHater]

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[AFBlue]

Why wouldn't the Spurs be second?

They were second this past season by a comfortable margin. OKC just got a lot worse and will have to adjust to losing both Durant and Ibaka.

The Clippers lost Jeff Green and Aldrich for nothing.

The Memphis big three are all coming off major injury concerns.

Portland added no one except Evan Turner at an absurd rate, he shouldn't scare anyone.

The Rockets added injury plagued non defenders.

Even if Duncan retires, how are the Spurs not number two but default?

Agree. Especially if Pau joins the Spurs.

[cd98]

Hope Tim retires...then unretires for the playoffs. But don't know how that works with salary cap.

[DPG21920]

I know nothing is given - that's why they play the games. GSW still has to put the pieces together, and sometimes that's a lot harder than expected. The sad truth is that they will probably be as good as advertised. But, no, it's not a given.

More than anything, I'm doubtful about Tony's declining agility and ability to keep the offense moving against the better/younger teams in the league. That's why I think they're a 50 win team, give or take. It's got nothing to do with GS. Losing Tim is a HUGE adjustment, no matter how people try to shrug it off. The Spurs are weak in the middle, and weak at the point.

To be more than that, IMO, Tony would have to have an Indian Summer season. Kyle and Boban would have to have improved significantly this offseason. Danny would have to keep his 3P stroke from the playoffs, and Boris would have to get barred from Starbucks. That's a lot of "ifs". But think how great it will feel if they all step up?

As for Pau getting more than one year - I'm a big believer in the Sun Tzu idea of concentrating all your assets on a single point of attack. I don't want him choking up a huge chunk of cap next offseason. The Spurs need to be totally free to pick up one big player, and at least one big role-player. This offseason makes it pretty clear that they have to be able to jump in with a max offer right away, to show that big player that they are serious. Opinions are worth what you pay for them, but that's mine.

For sure - SA doesn't have control either - Tim can retire. Pau can say no. Etc..Spurs have a lot of holes, but I do think, basketball wise that a SL of TP/DG/KL/DG/Pau is better than last year overall which is saying something. The bench, especially big men (guards are question marks too) is the issue.

But have to do what you can. I'm good with SA going youth, but doesn't seem like they are trying to do that. They want Pau. If he says no, people may be happy that it forces SA's hand to go youth only and focus on next year money-wise.

[Nathan89]

Can you imagine Gasol and Aldridge guarding the Warriors :lol

murder

LMA is fine but he should be the only big out there ideally.

[ducks]

thunder had 2 bigs and were ahead 3-1

[siraulo23]

thunder had 2 bigs and were ahead 3-1

yea ibaka and adams, two of the best bigs at defending the pick and roll in the league

[sasaint]

For sure - SA doesn't have control either - Tim can retire. Pau can say no. Etc..Spurs have a lot of holes, but I do think, basketball wise that a SL of TP/DG/KL/DG/Pau is better than last year overall which is saying something. The bench, especially big men (guards are question marks too) is the issue.

But have to do what you can. I'm good with SA going youth, but doesn't seem like they are trying to do that. They want Pau. If he says no, people may be happy that it forces SA's hand to go youth only and focus on next year money-wise.

Two DGs in the SL doesn't make us better.

[hsxvvd]

People also forgetting the Warriors will now fill the roster with ring chasers... they'll have size and depth still.

[LakerHater]

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[AFBlue]

ESPN Spurs guy says they have had Pau as the priority all along, we're happy with their pitch but knew it was a longshot.

[TimDunkem]

Speaking of Danny Green. If his shooting is anything like last season, we'll be lucky to be even the third best team in the west.

[Ron Swanson]

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[Leetonidas]

God dammit Cuban is such a faggot. I feel sorry for Dirk rotting away there all these years

[HarlemHeat37]

Mavs always doing all they can to get a 7th/8th seed:lol

[YGWHI]

He coulda re-signed with Portland

Repairing LMA-Blazers/Dame relationship was nearly impossible.

But sure, I feel bad for LMA. "He's stuck with Kawhi" the best two-way player in the league, two times DPOY, 2nd MVP runner for MVP, just turned 25 years old...

Can't envision a worst case scenario for LMA

[loveforthegame]

Dallas a,ways willing to help. :lol

[palangi]

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Yep Cuban is going to be the idiot to help them out.

[Nathan89]

Why all the panic? This is what happened when Lebron went to Miami. The Mavs and a Spurs team with no clear superstar/all star beat that team. Relax. The Warriors are guaranteed 4 great players but the other 4 to 6 are going to matter a whole bunch too

Yeah, the Heat with Bibby and Haslem are comparable.

It's all about playing style. It's easier try protect the paint from Wade and Lebron than to guard the 3pt line with three of the greatest shooters in the history of the league.

[Robz4000]

Sure, but SA can't tank. You realize that right? There is not lottery pick coming even if SA doesn't sign anyone. I'm fine with SA going youth only and just taking fliers on upside guys, but your lottery pick for one year idea is impossible.

Tbh, playing the youngin's and the Big Three heavy minutes may be enough.

[LakerHater]

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[gambit1990]

Mavs always doing all they can to get a 7th/8th seed:lol
:lol

[HarlemHeat37]

Yeah, the Heat with Bibby and Haslem are comparable.

It's all about playing style. It's easier try protect the paint from Wade and Lebron than to guard the 3pt line with three of the greatest shooters in the history of the league.

Not to mention Wade and Lebron were very redundant, it took them 2 seasons to figure out how to play together, offensively..Bosh had to change his entire game, too..

There won't be much adjustment needed with the Warriors..their top 3 options are good to great spot-up shooters, while Draymond is also capable..they also have 3 great playmakers in Curry, Green and Iguodala..defensively, Dominos is an upgrade over Barnes, easily..

It just looks like a very natural fit, unfortunately..

[LakerHater]

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[loveforthegame]

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[siraulo23]

mavs :lol

well, another team was gonna make a deal with the warriors eventually

[YGWHI]

:lol next year, it's going to be an empty space

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Presti :lmao

[ducks]

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 4m4 minutes ago
The Warriors and Mavericks are in the advanced stages of a trade that will send Andrew Bogut into Dallas' cap space, league sources say

[DPG21920]

Dallas is absorbing Bogut into cap space. Will sign Barnes. Makes sense. They needed a C next to Dirk and Bogut is cheap, no risk and will be gone next year if he doesn't work.

[LakerHater]

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[GSH]

For sure - SA doesn't have control either - Tim can retire. Pau can say no. Etc..Spurs have a lot of holes, but I do think, basketball wise that a SL of TP/DG/KL/DG/Pau is better than last year overall which is saying something. The bench, especially big men (guards are question marks too) is the issue.

But have to do what you can. I'm good with SA going youth, but doesn't seem like they are trying to do that. They want Pau. If he says no, people may be happy that it forces SA's hand to go youth only and focus on next year money-wise.


Well I'm looking at it as a pure fan, not trying to run it like a business. For small market teams, making the playoffs is a big increase in profits for the year. I don't question that inking Pau makes the team better this year. I don't think it makes them good enough, but it definitely makes them better. For most non-spoiled people, a 50+ win season is pretty damn good. So I guess it's no mystery why the Spurs are pushing to get Gasol to sign here.

If I'm being honest, I started considering that we might be seeing a lot of Euro players and/or D-League call-ups on the squad this season. And the more I thought about it, the more I warmed up to the idea. I don't know - something new to see? A little change in style/flavor for the team? And with any luck, at least a couple of those guys would be hungry enough to over-achieve and make it an exciting year. The idea of being plain vanilla and predictable just doesn't have a lot of appeal.

[SpurPadre]

why do lesser teams automatically oblige facilitating the creation of other superteams?

[ducks]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojVerticalNBA 1m1 minute ago
Sources: Dallas working on renouncing contracts to absorb Bogut in trade, try to sign Harrison Barnes as UFA free agent, and re-sign Dirk.

[ducks]

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 3m3 minutes ago
Dallas' efforts to acquire Bogut, as first reported by @espn, are in the final stages; Golden State determined to find him a good new home

[Ron Swanson]

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[objective]

People also forgetting the Warriors will now fill the roster with ring chasers... they'll have size and depth still.

They aren't forgetting, they are intentionally ignoring it. They are in denial, and clinging to "GS has no bigs!" is a coping mechanism.

[Robz4000]

:lol @ the tank movement

Spurs have the best two-way player in the NBA and a perennial all-star in his second season with the team. They have Pop and a deep bench full of players with different skills.

:lol Thinking Pop is an advantage

[Ron Swanson]

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 3m3 minutes ago
Dallas' efforts to acquire Bogut, as first reported by @espn, are in the final stages; Golden State determined to find him a good new home

WTF is he a puppy at a shelter? :lol

[SpurPadre]

WTF is he a puppy at a shelter? :lol

:lol

[Nathan89]

Not to mention Wade and Lebron were very redundant, it took them 2 seasons to figure out how to play together, offensively..Bosh had to change his entire game, too..

There won't be much adjustment needed with the Warriors..their top 3 options are good to great spot-up shooters, while Draymond is also capable..they also have 3 great playmakers in Curry, Green and Iguodala..defensively, Dominos is an upgrade over Barnes, easily..

It just looks like a very natural fit, unfortunately..

Agreed. The Heat comparison is driving fucking crazy. It's nothing like that. The Heat forced Bosh to do something he wasn't great at. You just had to live with that. You don't even have to be a great playmaker on the Warriors because nobody is doubling and nobody is taking a step in.

[AFBlue]

WTF is he a puppy at a shelter? :lol

:lol

Seriously though, mark of a good franchise. Spurs did the same thing for Georgie and Shhhplitta

[SPURt]

Yeah, the Heat with Bibby and Haslem are comparable.

It's all about playing style. It's easier try protect the paint from Wade and Lebron than to guard the 3pt line with three of the greatest shooters in the history of the league.

Until I see them play it's hard to say if it was easier to gaurd the paint against Lebron/Wade/Bosh or force Klay/Curry/KD into bad shots. It's also hard to predict what that offense will look like because their starting center is likely not on the roster unless it's Speights.

Tanking based on fear of what could be is cowardly. Hopefully Kawhi/Pop/LMA are more willing to take on the challenge than this fan board. To me, Bogut, Barnes, Festus/Iggy is too much defense lost. This team is looking a lot like Nash's Suns to me.

[Mouth is Bleeding]

I wonder what Ezeli will command.

There are some injury questions that has lowered what he can expect.

[ducks]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojVerticalNBA 2m2 minutes ago
Free agent guard Ramon Sessions has agreed to a two-year, $12.5M deal with the Charlotte Hornets, league source tells @TheVertical.
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[sasaint]

Until I see them play it's hard to say if it was easier to gaurd the paint against Lebron/Wade/Bosh or force Klay/Curry/KD into bad shots. It's also hard to predict what that offense will look like because their starting center is likely not on the roster unless it's Speights.

Tanking based on fear of what could be is cowardly. Hopefully Kawhi/Pop/LMA are more willing to take on the challenge than this fan board. To me, Bogut, Barnes, Festus/Iggy is too much defense lost. This team is looking a lot like Nash's Suns to me.

Nash's Suns on steroids, maybe.

[ducks]

I wonder what Ezeli will command.

There are some injury questions that has lowered what he can expect.

if gaol wants 3 years sign him

[Nathan89]

Until I see them play it's hard to say if it was easier to gaurd the paint against Lebron/Wade/Bosh or force Klay/Curry/KD into bad shots. It's also hard to predict what that offense will look like because their starting center is likely not on the roster unless it's Speights.

Tanking based on fear of what could be is cowardly. Hopefully Kawhi/Pop/LMA are more willing to take on the challenge than this fan board. To me, Bogut, Barnes, Festus/Iggy is too much defense lost. This team is looking a lot like Nash's Suns to me.

There won't be any forcing of bad shots. Cavs defense this year relied on leaving Barnes open. Defenses do that all the time. Try leaving Durant open. Also Durant isn't just going to stand around like Barnes. He's going to create more shots for Curry and Klay. There won't be any forcing bad shots.

[Nathan89]

I wonder what Ezeli will command.

There are some injury questions that has lowered what he can expect.

Considering Mozgov got 64mil for 4yrs at the age of 30, I'd say you can expect more than that.

[SpurPadre]

There won't be any forcing of bad shots. Cavs defense this year relied on leaving Barnes open. Defenses do that all the time. Try leaving Durant open. Also Durant isn't just going to stand around like Barnes. He's going to create more shots for Curry and Klay. There won't be any forcing bad shots.

Barring injury, they'll be 82-0. They can make it somewhat interesting and play blindfolded and still be 73-9 again.

[TheGreatYacht]

The difference between the two :lol

One bobble head ass nigga is speaking nonsense while the other has his head right (and normal sized) and tweets go Spurs go

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[AFBlue]

I wonder what Ezeli will command.

There are some injury questions that has lowered what he can expect.

If I'm Portland, I think I'm going in that direction over Gasol. He's younger, more athletic and more skilled than he showed at GS.

[Mouth is Bleeding]

Considering Mozgov got 64mil for 4yrs at the age of 30, I'd say you can expect more than that.

Yeah that was gross. It will be a lot but it will make that deal look bad I think.

[Nathan89]

The difference between the two :lol

One bobble head ass nigga is speaking nonsense while the other has his head right (and normal sized) and tweets go Spurs go

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What a useless big head.

[Hoops Czar]

I wonder what Ezeli will command.

There are some injury questions that has lowered what he can expect.

Relax!. Once the Ezili shoe drops, the rest of these nigs will be signing like hot cakes.

[GSH]

The difference between the two :lol

One bobble head ass nigga is speaking nonsense while the other has his head right (and normal sized) and tweets go Spurs go

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LOL... WTF is Fathead even talking about? Go to the fucking gym, Fathead, and stay off Twitter.

[objective]

SloMo looking forward to be helping Durant win another series?

[Leetonidas]

Hurry the fuck up with Gasol already

[LakerHater]

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[Leetonidas]

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....oh. thanks :lol

[Mouth is Bleeding]

WojBomb

But Timmy :depressed

[NASpurs]

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Fuck :lol

One year please

[davidbowie]

that means timmy is gone right?

im gonna cry

[AFBlue]

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YEEEEEESSSSSSSS!!!!!!

[InRareForm]

Gasol two year deal at most please

[LakerHater]

Hope Spurs dont overpay!

[AFBlue]

that means timmy is gone right?

im gonna cry

I expect Timmy is gone. Just needed SOME good news today.

[ducks]

marc Stein Retweeted
cfgardner ‏@cf_gardner 9m9 minutes ago
Good news for Bucks as http://cleveland.com says Cavs will not match Dellavedova deal. No sign-and-trade and no options on 4-year deal.

[Nathan89]

That's cool. Too bad Durant put a giant dark cloud over the league. I hope it's for 1 year.

[SanAntonioSpurs23]

God Damnit. I'd rather have 40 year old TD than Gasol.

[SPURt]

There won't be any forcing of bad shots. Cavs defense this year relied on leaving Barnes open. Defenses do that all the time. Try leaving Durant open. Also Durant isn't just going to stand around like Barnes. He's going to create more shots for Curry and Klay. There won't be any forcing bad shots.
The Warriors lost because Steph couldn't handle the physicality and started settling for more bad shots than he normally takes. Barnes was garbage but Curry/Klay were forced into bad shots. Blaming Barnes for the loss would be like blaming Danny. Ultimately, Steph and Klay had an opportunity to win.

[TheGoldStandard]

2/25 probably.. Duncan is walking away.. Pau starts

[LakerHater]

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[DPG21920]

Completely speculation on my part, but I think SA is firmly in the running for Pau. The fact that other teams have not secured a commitment even though he is probably their top priority signals to me that he is waiting for SA/KD situation to clear up.

Every other team chasing him is not meeting with KD and has already seemingly made an offer (POR) or has nothing stopping them like KD/SA (some have already made offers to other players).


Side note, the fact that nothing has leaked from GS meeting make me more nervous than reports coming out. That is odd...

Well, logic is 2 for 2. Last remaining logical thing is Tim opting in = retirement.

[Nathan89]

The Warriors lost because Steph couldn't handle the physicality and started settling for more bad shots than he normally takes. Barnes was garbage but Curry/Klay were forced into bad shots. Blaming Barnes for the loss would be like blaming Danny. Ultimately, Steph and Klay had an opportunity to win.

Durant isn't going to do nothing like Barnes. So if you think that's the reason they lost then that reason doesn't exist anymore because all focus isn't going to be on Curry anymore. Yes, I would blame any shooter who can't hit wide open shots. The fact that they could all hit shots is what made GSW deadly. So if you can't hit open shots then you should get a lot of the blame.

[SPURt]

Nash's Suns on steroids, maybe.
Undoubtedly the NBA has never seen a team like this, but the offense to defense ratio will favor a comparison with the Suns.

[Nathan89]

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Chinook told me 2yrs for 28mil was impossible though.

[InRareForm]

Only way spurs ring if warriors injuries

[DPG21920]

The issue is losing Boban/West/Boris/Tim and only gettin Pau. It Tim comes back, that's so big right now, but I don't think he will.

Spurs will have to get 2 more bigs and I don't see a path. If SA can get to 19M in cap space (which now means losing Mills maybe in addition to Boris) and Pau takes 16M, that means they really need Manu back now. So how does SA get bigs in the fold?

I'm sure SA knows this and has some plans, but I can't even begin to guess how this will work out if they are dead set on Pau and we assume Pau is not taking a "discount'.


Pretty close - we will see if Boris is traded to make the room. Might be a combo of Kyle/Mills though given the lack of bigs with Tim retiring.

[palangi]

Chinook told me 2yrs for 28mil was impossible though.

Got to think more moves to follow. Diaw? Mills? No Ginobli?

[Chinook]

Chinook told me 2yrs for 28mil was impossible though.

Yeah, it's not possible without creating another hole.

[LakerHater]

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[DPG21920]

So happy that it's only a 2 year deal. If Gasol plays great, he likely opts out. If he is not a fit, he likely opts out :lol. Good job SA doing what you could for this year without killing hopes for next year.

No bird rights for Pau though; if SA wants to sign him next year (assuming he opts out) then it will be cap space.

[palangi]

Yeah, it's not possible without creating another hole.

Holes won't be that big if it is Mills and Diaw going

[TimDunkem]

Chinook told me 2yrs for 28mil was impossible though.
Chinook is easily the worst "knowledgeable" poster on this forum.

[szkorhetz]

BREAKING: The Golden State Warriors (https://www.facebook.com/warriors/) have agreed to trade Andrew Bogut to the Dallas Mavericks (https://www.facebook.com/dallasmavs/)!
Bogut will be joining his teammate Harrison Barnes in Dallas, assuming he still signs with them!

[DPG21920]

The Golden State Warriors, currently with no cap space, need to create room to sign Kevin Durant, who agreed to join the franchise Monday.

Steph Curry, Klay Thompson and Draymond Green are likely untouchable, but the Warriors do have decisions to make on the value of cap space vs. their own free agents. Key rotational player Andre Iguodala appears to be a part of the plan going forward, but the Warriors are workng on a deal to move center Andrew Bogut.

Here are the moves the Warriors need to make to fit Durant:

1. Trade Bogut’s contract to the Dallas Mavericks.

2. Renounce the unrestricted free-agent holds of Marreese Speights, Leandro Barbosa, Ian Clark, James McAdoo, Brandon Rush and Anderson Varejao.

3. Withdraw the qualifying offers and renounce the cap holds of Harrison Barnes and Festus Ezeli.

The moves would leave Golden State with $26.6 million in cap space to sign Durant to a max contract.

However, doing so would only leave the Warriors with the minimum and room mid-level ($2.9 million) to fill out their roster.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/how-golden-state-can-afford-kd-183109798.html

[Chinook]

Chinook is easily the worst "knowledgeable" poster on this forum.

Easily.

[DPG21920]

Holes won't be that big if it is Mills and Diaw going

If Tim is gone, then Boris, then West, there will be huge holes!

Like I said in my post on Pau coming here and what I thought he would make, that leaves maybe 3/4M in cap space + Room Exception to fill holes.

Need to replace West/Boris/Boban bring back Manu and what about Bertans? All SA will have is 3/4M in cap space + room excetion (outside of min contracts and trades to improve).

[DPG21920]

Chinook is easily the worst "knowledgeable" poster on this forum.

What? 85% of what people "call" him on is lack of reading comprehension on what he said. He's a very knowledgeable poster. He may see things through a different lense a lot of the time, but this is way off base.

[raybies]

Personally I think mills and Diaw are gone. Makes sense considering all the pfs and shooting pg's we've been looking at. This would give us the needed space import youth and develop them for next year when we'll be looking to max out a player and will need players cheap contacts.

[DesignatedT]

So let me get this straight... Diaw and Boban are gone to create room for Pau?

[GSH]

Pretty close - we will see if Boris is traded to make the room. Might be a combo of Kyle/Mills though given the lack of bigs with Tim retiring.


Point guards? We don't need no steenking point guards!

[szkorhetz]

Personally I think mills and Diaw are gone. Makes sense considering all the pfs and shooting pg's we've been looking at. This would give us the needed space import youth and develop them for next year when we'll be looking to max out a player and will need players cheap contacts.
DIaw might be, but Mills in on a dirt cheap deal.

[K...]

Point guards? We don't need no steenking point guards!

Undersized shooting guards! We don't need no stinking....

[coachmac87]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/how-golden-state-can-afford-kd-183109798.html


Who will seriously sign for minimum in this market?? How many roster spots do they need to fill??

[GSH]

Chinook is easily the worst "knowledgeable" poster on this forum.


What fucking rock did you crawl out from under? Crawl back there.

[Leetonidas]

lol if Spurs do something retarded and trade Green

[GSH]

Undersized shooting guards! We don't need no stinking....


LOL... yeah, well, there's that.

[ducks]

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 3m3 minutes ago
If Duncan indeed retires, San Antonio may waive and stretch legendary No. 21, reducing TD's cap hit to $2.1 mil over the next three season



Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 5m5 minutes ago
It remains to be seen, who San Antonio sheds in trade -- or what happens with Tim Duncan -- to create the needed cap space to sign Pau Gasol

[Leetonidas]

btw has anyone heard anything on Kmart and West?

[Nathan89]

Chinook is easily the worst "knowledgeable" poster on this forum.

I wouldn't say that. I just didn't think Pau was taking 9mil when his value is so much higher in this league. So if the Spurs were going to get him it would be near my prediction.

[Chinook]

I kind of hate this deal, to be honest. The team couldn't afford to lose more rotation players, and they are definitely losing one to make this happen. They have about $16 Million assuming Tim retired and took nothing, and they have about $13.5 Million if they just stretch him. That's enough to give Pau something that approaches his reported contract, but it leaves no Boban, and it makes the room exception an either/or thing with Manu and Bertans. Hope that one takes the min, of course. Still, the backup center spot is really weak with no money to fix it unless the team loses further rotation players, who in turn will have to be replaced and so on.

[sasaint]

Point guards? We don't need no steenking point guards!

Haven't had a point guard for some time now.

[DPG21920]

Does anyone think SA does a S&T with CHI to keep the MLE/stay over the cap? I really hope so, just don't know for who.

[palangi]

If Tim is gone, then Boris, then West, there will be huge holes!

Like I said in my post on Pau coming here and what I thought he would make, that leaves maybe 3/4M in cap space + Room Exception to fill holes.

Need to replace West/Boris/Boban bring back Manu and what about Bertans? All SA will have is 3/4M in cap space + room excetion (outside of min contracts and trades to improve).

Honestly KA can bring what Diaw did from that spot. They will get creative to bring players in. Diaw and Mills aren't the end of the world.

[szkorhetz]

I kind of hate this deal, to be honest. The team couldn't afford to lose more rotation players, and they are definitely losing one to make this happen. They have about $16 Million assuming Tim retired and took nothing, and they have about $13.5 Million if they just stretch him. That's enough to give Pau something that approaches his reported contract, but it leaves no Boban, and it makes the room exception an either/or thing with Manu and Bertans. Hope that one takes the min, of course. Still, the backup center spot is really weak with no money to fix it unless the team loses further rotation players, who in turn will have to be replaced and so on.
Still, I think it's better to have Gasol as a starting C rather than Boban.
This season will be fucked up anyway.

[LakerHater]

so gsw needs to dump 7-8 players?