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BillMc
05-04-2016, 12:57 AM
As of now, both Kawhi and LMA are producing all time Top Ten playoff PER for a single season:

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2 things. 1) It is still relatively early these can go up or down. Probably down. And 2) Sadly, I think only Jordan in '91 won a championship that year. Maybe Mikan.

My source is a PTR article by Brian Kincheloe: http://www.poundingtherock.com/2016/5/3/11584740/nba-playoffs-2016-lamarcus-aldridge-stats-san-antonio-spurs-oklahoma-city-thunder

Also, in this article, are LMA's numbers for the OKC series so far:wow:

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lefty
05-04-2016, 01:06 AM
I don't see Parker in this list

Kawhitstorm
05-04-2016, 01:42 AM
Aldridge dominates offensively over last two games
LaMarcus Aldridge (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2983/lamarcus-aldridge) scored 41 points and hit 15 of his 21 field-goal attempts in the Spurs' loss on Monday. Over the first two games of this second-round series with the Thunder, Aldridge has 79 points and he's shooting 33-for-44 (.750) from the floor. In the shot-clock era (since 1954-55 season), only one other player scored at least 75 points and made 70 percent of his field-goal attempts over a two-game span in the playoffs: Dwight Howard (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2384/dwight-howard) in Games 1 and 2 of a first-round matchup between the Magic and the Hawks in the 2011 playoffs (79 points, .714 FG pct.).

BillMc
05-04-2016, 01:52 AM
Aldridge dominates offensively over last two games
LaMarcus Aldridge (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2983/lamarcus-aldridge) scored 41 points and hit 15 of his 21 field-goal attempts in the Spurs' loss on Monday. Over the first two games of this second-round series with the Thunder, Aldridge has 79 points and he's shooting 33-for-44 (.750) from the floor. In the shot-clock era (since 1954-55 season), only one other player scored at least 75 points and made 70 percent of his field-goal attempts over a two-game span in the playoffs: Dwight Howard (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2384/dwight-howard) in Games 1 and 2 of a first-round matchup between the Magic and the Hawks in the 2011 playoffs (79 points, .714 FG pct.).

I had forgotten Dwight was ever that good. :lol Here's how it ranks in Spurs history:

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Kawhitstorm
05-04-2016, 03:02 AM
I had forgotten Dwight was ever that good. :lol


Paul Millsap (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3015/paul-millsap) scored 45 points and grabbed 13 rebounds in a losing effort for the Hawks. Since 1970, only two other players have scored that many points with as many rebounds in a playoff loss: Hakeem Olajuwon (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/619/hakeem-olajuwon) against Seattle in 1987 (49 points, 25 rebounds) and Dwight Howard (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2384/dwight-howard) against Atlanta in 2010 (46 points, 19 rebounds).

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Spurtacular
05-04-2016, 03:09 AM
Paul Millsap (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3015/paul-millsap) scored 45 points and grabbed 13 rebounds in a losing effort for the Hawks. Since 1970, only two other players have scored that many points with as many rebounds in a playoff loss: Hakeem Olajuwon (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/619/hakeem-olajuwon) against Seattle in 1987 (49 points, 25 rebounds) and Dwight Howard (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2384/dwight-howard) against Atlanta in 2010 (46 points, 19 rebounds).

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Howard was good when he had the spring in his step.

Kawhitstorm
05-04-2016, 04:29 AM
Howard was good when he had the spring in his step.

He dominated in 2014 postseason against the Blazers:

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Dominated Tyson Chandler in the 2015 postseason w/ a busted knee:

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Shutdown Blake when the Rockets made the comeback in Gm 6:

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Murdered DeAndre this season:

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Punked Cousins:

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When he's motivated & happy, he can still dominate ELITE centers as long as he's being fed the ball. Folks thought Tyson Chandler was done before he was traded to Dallas, same w/ Camby before he was traded to Denver.

NameLess Scrub
05-04-2016, 06:33 AM
Such a wasted performance

YGWHI
05-04-2016, 08:01 AM
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2 things. 1) It is still relatively early these can go up or down. Probably down. And 2) Sadly, I think only Jordan in '91 won a championship that year. Maybe Mikan.


Wow. Kawhi had 37 PER before game 2, one game changed dramatically his numbers.

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jimbo
05-04-2016, 08:04 AM
Wow. Kawhi had 37 PER after Memphis series, game 2 changed dramatically his numbers.

:lol it's pretty sad that you know that

hater
05-04-2016, 08:04 AM
Lamar is did the same in 2014 vs rockets I believe. Funny thing it was also with an injured hand.

Unfortunately the next round Lamar us got his shit pushed in by Splitter. So there is a big chance this won't last

YGWHI
05-04-2016, 08:05 AM
When he's motivated & happy, he can still dominate ELITE centers as long as he's being fed the ball. Folks thought Tyson Chandler was done before he was traded to Dallas, same w/ Camby before he was traded to Denver.

Talking about Mavs, since Parson said Howard should sign with them...Can a great coach like Carlisle, can revive Dwight career?

YGWHI
05-04-2016, 08:07 AM
:lol it's pretty sad that you know that
Not really, I'm not the first on ST who post it. Not sure, but I think it was BatManu in one of his game threads

And now, it's sad posting about Spurs players stats...

This little troll :lol

SASdynasty!
05-04-2016, 08:26 AM
I don't see Parker in this list
Actually Parker came pretty close in 2009 finishing the playoffs with a 29.3 PER.

The best Lamarcus ever finished with is 21.0
The best Kawhi ever finished with is 19.9

jimbo
05-04-2016, 08:44 AM
Not really, I'm not the first on ST who post it. Not sure, but I think it was BatManu in one of his game threads

And now, it's sad posting about Spurs players stats...

This little troll :lol

I actually didn't realize I was in the Spurs form. I thought you were shitposting KawhiStats in the NBA forum

YGWHI
05-04-2016, 08:50 AM
I actually didn't realize I was in the Spurs form. I thought you were shitposting KawhiStats in the NBA forum
Keep doing your job of trolling this forum...


But please by all means jimbo continue to be bigoted and ignorant. :tu

$pursDynasty
05-04-2016, 09:26 AM
I don't see Parker in this list
you don't see any PG's on it, so???

hater
05-04-2016, 09:35 AM
:lol :lol lefty

BillMc
05-04-2016, 09:40 AM
Talking about Mavs, since Parson said Howard should sign with them...Can a great coach like Carlisle, can revive Dwight career?

Not sure. He seems like a malcontent. I really do believe he'd be best served as a defensive specialist and not worry about the offense, but he seems to care strongly about the number of shots he gets (which is why he couldn't be a TD replacement if Duncan retires). So, I think he could be happy if he was part of winning organization, but only if he's getting his shots. And I don't see that happening on any of the contenders, especially as Dwight will likely be seeking the max.

But, yes, a good coach could probably revive him but at what cost to team harmony?

NameLess Scrub
05-04-2016, 10:01 AM
Not sure. He seems like a malcontent. I really do believe he'd be best served as a defensive specialist and not worry about the offense, but he seems to care strongly about the number of shots he gets (which is why he couldn't be a TD replacement if Duncan retires). So, I think he could be happy if he was part of winning organization, but only if he's getting his shots. And I don't see that happening on any of the contenders, especially as Dwight will likely be seeking the max.

But, yes, a good coach could probably revive him but at what cost to team harmony?


There are a couple of factors for Dwight IMO.

He came to the league a robotic teen and he turned into a superstar in ORL.

He was a man child there, but had youth, athleticism, Stan Van Gundy, Olajuwon, and a developing organization.

When he turned on ORL he also got injured. So now he's 30, post injury, in an underachieving organization, and still a man child. He looks bad now for that imo.

So I don't know if he's even able to perform like '09-'10 based on his age and injuries. Could he possibly change his game?

I'm inclined to think a strong coach like Carlisle could make a difference in his attitude. But Dwight needs to come down to earth, stop asking for the max, and reinvent himself a little so he can get maybe 5 good NBA years out of his body and change the perception people have of him but mostly the results he gets on the court.

BillMc
05-04-2016, 10:10 AM
There are a couple of factors for Dwight IMO.

He came to the league a robotic teen and he turned into a superstar in ORL.

He was a man child there, but had youth, athleticism, Stan Van Gundy, Olajuwon, and a developing organization.

When he turned on ORL he also got injured. So now he's 30, post injury, in an underachieving organization, and still a man child. He looks bad now for that imo.

So I don't know if he's even able to perform like '09-'10 based on his age and injuries. Could he possibly change his game?

I'm inclined to think a strong coach like Carlisle could make a difference in his attitude. But Dwight needs to come down to earth, stop asking for the max, and reinvent himself a little so he can get maybe 5 good NBA years out of his body and change the perception people have of him but mostly the results he gets on the court.

I agree 100%. And part of the reinvention, in my opinion, should be as a blue collar d and rebounds guy who doesn't care about scoring, and let's others lead the team. (And isn't upset that his teammates look to others for that leadership.) In other words, become a hell of a follower, because he's not a hell of a leader.

An aside, did he really have access to Hakeem while in Orlando? I didn't know that. I though he just hooked up with him when he got to Houston. Imagine being able to learn from Hakeem and McHale and still not have many post moves. :lol

Kawhitstorm
05-04-2016, 10:20 AM
Talking about Mavs, since Parson said Howard should sign with them...Can a great coach like Carlisle, can revive Dwight career?

That would be a good spot for him but if he's their best player then their ceiling is like the 2014 Blazers.

Kawhitstorm
05-04-2016, 10:24 AM
Lamar is did the same in 2014 vs rockets I believe. Funny thing it was also with an injured hand.

He injured his thumb in 2015 not 2014:wakeup

NameLess Scrub
05-04-2016, 10:50 AM
I agree 100%. And part of the reinvention, in my opinion, should be as a blue collar d and rebounds guy who doesn't care about scoring, and let's others lead the team. (And isn't upset that his teammates look to others for that leadership.) In other words, become a hell of a follower, because he's not a hell of a leader.

An aside, did he really have access to Hakeem while in Orlando? I didn't know that. I though he just hooked up with him when he got to Houston. Imagine being able to learn from Hakeem and McHale and still not have many post moves. :lol

:lol

He was hooking up with Hakeem in the summer. And of course, posted goofy videos about it. Can be found in youtube I think.

He can fuse Hakeem, McHale and Timmy and then workout and will never be as smooth as them due to this robotic coordination, but what he achieved in ORL was amazing combined with his defense.

I agree 100% on the defensive approach. It's how he started anyway and many people thought his game always had better flow and effectiveness flowing from defense to offense.