:lol AMD

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3WnmZwChW_s

:lol 1070 is going to be better than a Titan X for 400 bucks :wow

:worthy: NVIDIA

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Time to retire the 760 :wakeup

[baseline bum]

Polaris 10 is going to be targeting the mainstream too. Straight from AMD Roy, they're not trying to compete with GP104 and they won't have anything in this performance bracket until 2017. I guess they're waiting for HMB2 availability before they try to compete with GP104.

[baseline bum]

3WnmZwChW_s

:lol 1070 is going to be better than a Titan X for 400 bucks :wow

:worthy: NVIDIA

You shouldn't be surprised it's better than a Titan X off a node shrink, this is exactly what you should expect off one. The $380 MSRP is a nice surprise though. But reading through Nvidia's press release, they have only committed to launching the Founders Editions on June 10, and those are $450 and have that shitty reference cooler. You should definitely wait for the aftermarket cards from EVGA or MSI though unless your case has really fucking horrible airflow.

[baseline bum]

I wonder if we'll see full Polaris 10 for $225-$250. Any more expensive and it's going to have a really fucking hard time against the 1070.

[baseline bum]

AMD is going to have to slash the hell out of their prices on Fury X, Fury, and Fury Nano just like they did with R9 290 to compete with the 1070. Which is going to completely fuck them over again just like with 290, because the Fury GPUs with HBM1 and a huge 596mm^2 die are really expensive to make. I bet they cost significantly more than the 320mm^2 GTX 1070 with GDDR5 cost to make.

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Polaris 10 is going to be targeting the mainstream too. Straight from AMD Roy, they're not trying to compete with GP104 and they won't have anything in this performance bracket until 2017. I guess they're waiting for HMB2 availability before they try to compete with GP104.So what price range do you think they'll target? A 390 equivalent in the ~$250 range?


You shouldn't be surprised it's better than a Titan X off a node shrink, this is exactly what you should expect off one. The $380 MSRP is a nice surprise though. But reading through Nvidia's press release, they have only committed to launching the Founders Editions on June 10, and those are $450 and have that shitty reference cooler. You should definitely wait for the aftermarket cards from EVGA or MSI though unless your case has really fucking horrible airflow.
Bummer but I can wait. And yeah I think I'll wait for MSI's version. Their cards have been good to me in the past.

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I wonder if we'll see full Polaris 10 for $225-$250. Any more expensive and it's going to have a really fucking hard time against the 1070.
Exactly my thinking. Anything $300+ and I imagine it'd be hard to justify not just shelling out a bit more for a 1070.

:lol AMD fucked

[baseline bum]

So what price range do you think they'll target? A 390 equivalent in the ~$250 range?


Bummer but I can wait. And yeah I think I'll wait for MSI's version. Their cards have been good to me in the past.

I anticipate buying an EVGA 1080, but I'll probably wait for the new games to come around in the Christmas season since my 970 still does great in everything out there but Quantum Break and Hitman. If my 970 is still kicking ass I'll wait another generation I guess. I can't see myself ever buying the full Pascal GP100 chip even when it's $650-$700 as a 1080 Ti, as I don't want a fucking 300W card.

[baseline bum]

3WnmZwChW_s

:lol 1070 is going to be better than a Titan X for 400 bucks :wow

:worthy: NVIDIA

Also, LOL at the sunburn Luke has. Stupid Canadians can't handle Texas in the spring. :lol

[baseline bum]

3WnmZwChW_s

:lol 1070 is going to be better than a Titan X for 400 bucks :wow

:worthy: NVIDIA

The last time Nvidia took a wet shit on AMD :lol

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=248801&p=8032239&viewfull=1#post8032239

[baseline bum]

Credits to DJR210 for dancing on AMD's grave

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn188/DJR210/lolcryhavoc_zps2d55dhl3.png

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I anticipate buying an EVGA 1080, but I'll probably wait for the new games to come around in the Christmas season since my 970 still does great in everything out there but Quantum Break and Hitman. If my 970 is still kicking ass I'll wait another generation I guess. I can't see myself ever buying the full Pascal GP100 chip even when it's $650-$700 as a 1080 Ti, as I don't want a fucking 300W card.
Word, that's understandable.

How future proof do you think these cards are? I mean we'd have to see some revolutionary graphics increase in the next year or two to push a 1080 right?

Also, LOL at the sunburn Luke has. Stupid Canadians can't handle Texas in the spring. :lol
:lol

[baseline bum]

How future proof do you think these cards are? I mean we'd have to see some revolutionary graphics increase in the next year or two to push a 1080 right?


Probably not much, gpus are never very future proof.

[baseline bum]

:lol only having low end crap from Polaris 10
:lol Vega not coming out until 2017
:lol needing to slash prices on a ~600mm^2 chip to compete with a ~320mm^2 chip
:lol having It's Pat as the company CEO
:lol not having a good CPU since 2009
:lol AMD

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The last time Nvidia took a wet shit on AMD :lol

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=248801&p=8032239&viewfull=1#post8032239


Credits to DJR210 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=42671) for dancing on AMD's grave

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn188/DJR210/lolcryhavoc_zps2d55dhl3.png
:lmao damn how did I miss this thread
:lmao NVIDIA coming back and shitting on their grave
:lmao Zen flopping is going to be the straw that broke the camel's back

[baseline bum]

:lmao damn how did I miss this thread
:lmao NVIDIA coming back and shitting on their grave
:lmao Zen flopping is going to be the straw that broke the camel's back

To be fair the 390 ended up being a really good card thanks to the memory overclock it got out the box. The rest of the series was garbage though. I mean they rebranded the R7 265 as the R7 370 that gets beat by the R9 270? The R9 380x being weaker than the R9 280x? How the fuck do you go down in performance in two brackets in a later generation? :lmao

[baseline bum]

Holy fuck if full Polaris 10 ends up being the R9 490x and actually goes down in performance from the R9 390x = R9 290x. :lol

[DJR210]

Credits to DJR210 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=42671) for dancing on AMD's grave

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn188/DJR210/lolcryhavoc_zps2d55dhl3.png

:lol Cry Havoc on the tombstone

[baseline bum]

The 1070 really does look significantly cut down from 1080, I imagine there will be a 20-25% performance delta between the two. The 970 was only 15% slower than the 970 and the 670 was only 8% slower than the 680. You can't really compare 770 and 780 the same way, the 770 was the full Kepler midrange chip (GK104) with an overclock (basically an overclocked 680), while the 780 was a very cut down version of the big die Kepler chip GK110. Still that was only a 15% difference at launch also. The 1070 definitely looks like the most cut down 70 series chip from Nvidia yet. It makes sense though, since I don't think the 980 sold very well due to the 970 being so strong.

[lefty]

My 09 Toshiba is runnng on AMD :lol

[lefty]

AMD Vision I think lol

[Wild Cobra]

Credits to DJR210 for dancing on AMD's grave

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn188/DJR210/lolcryhavoc_zps2d55dhl3.png

LOL...

That's a fair editing job!

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r9 280 owner checking in

[baseline bum]

Damn Logan from TekSyndicate let it slip that we won't get reviews until launch day on May 27th, check the 3:00 mark of this video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9IPccbOgPU

[baseline bum]

Look at this nigga showing off :pctoss


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFMQ5MQb6rY

[DJR210]

I'm planning on getting a 1070.. now's finally a good time to upgrade

[baseline bum]

I'm planning on getting a 1070.. now's finally a good time to upgrade

Before you even see the benchmarks?

[TDMVPDPOY]

those clowns on here running or going out to buy the latest video card...can u tell me what fkn screen you using?

[baseline bum]

Looks like the joke may be on Nvidia according to OC3D:

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I'm definitely not buying the 1080 unless it somehow outperforms Vega 11. I don't see it. I bet they bundle Battlefield with it. I was thinking 1080 because I figured Vega might not make it to market until March or April.

Get in here Cry Havoc :lol

[Cry Havoc]

Looks like the joke may be on Nvidia according to OC3D:

730118536325148672

I'm definitely not buying the 1080 unless it somehow outperforms Vega 11. I don't see it. I bet they bundle Battlefield with it. I was thinking 1080 because I figured Vega might not make it to market until March or April.

Get in here Cry Havoc :lol

Fucking loving my 290x. Can't wait for DX12 to take hold really unlock this card's potential. :tu

[baseline bum]

Wow, Nvidia is axing three way and four way SLI on the GTX 1080.

http://www.overclock3d.net/articles/gpu_displays/the_gtx_1080_will_not_support_any_higher_than_2_wa y_sli_configurations/1

[baseline bum]

GTX 1080 with a 33% gain on the 980 Ti in Firestrike Extreme? (eg Firestrike at 1440p) Holy shit if true.

http://cdn.videocardz.com/1/2016/05/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-1080-3DMark-Performance-V2.png

[Cry Havoc]

GTX 1080 with a 33% gain on the 980 Ti in Firestrike Extreme? (eg Firestrike at 1440p) Holy shit if true.

http://cdn.videocardz.com/1/2016/05/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-1080-3DMark-Performance-V2.png

Meh. Show me some real world tests.

[baseline bum]

Meh. Show me some real world tests.

How is that not impressive? That's a straight gpu score with no cpu bottleneck getting in the way. If true this is going to be a fucking killer card.

[baseline bum]

Still man, :lol pc gamers. I'll probably end up buying one once AMD shits the bed again with Vega, but it sucks that a midrange chip like the GTX 1080 is fucking $600. 2011 and before this kind of chip was labelled 60 Ti-series and not 80-series and sold for $250. Then when AMD's $500 HD 7970 flopped in 2012 Nvidia realized they could get away with doubling the price of their cards. The midrange die $250 GTX 560 Ti got succeeded by the midrange die $500 GTX 680. The $500 big die GTX 580 got succeeded by the $1000 big die GTX Titan. LOL us dumbasses paying twice as much for video cards 2012 and beyond.

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Still man, :lol pc gamers. I'll probably end up buying one once AMD shits the bed again with Vega, but it sucks that a midrange chip like the GTX 1080 is fucking $600. 2011 and before this kind of chip was labelled 60 Ti-series and not 80-series and sold for $250. Then when AMD's $500 HD 7970 flopped in 2012 Nvidia realized they could get away with doubling the price of their cards. The midrange die $250 GTX 560 Ti got succeeded by the midrange die $500 GTX 680. The $500 big die GTX 580 got succeeded by the $1000 big die GTX Titan. LOL us dumbasses paying twice as much for video cards 2012 and beyond.I thought PC gaming was cheaper than ever, though. That's what everyone says anyway.

[baseline bum]

I thought PC gaming was cheaper than ever, though. That's what everyone says anyway.

Everyone is full of shit then. :lol

Back in 2011 an i5-2500k was the best gaming cpu out there, nothing would make use of an i7. Now games actually will use the hyperthreads and you're looking at a $350 i7-6700k for maximum gaming performance. Even the direct equivalent of the 2500k, the i5-6600k, is about $245 now. In 2011 the Titan X equivalent was the $500 GTX 580, now it's the $1000 Titan X. The $600 GTX 1080 equivalent was the $250 GTX 560 Ti.

[baseline bum]

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[baseline bum]

Looks like Polaris 11 may end up with around GTX 960 performance at 50W. That should really help them get back into mobile. Polaris 10 is probably going to be around R9 290x performance at 150W, which has pretty much mostly been done by the 970 already.

[baseline bum]

Damn the 1080 is reported to be pretty capable of 2.5 GHz on water cooling, though you'd probably be using close to 980 Ti power by then.

[leemajors]

Everyone is full of shit then. :lol

Back in 2011 an i5-2500k was the best gaming cpu out there, nothing would make use of an i7. Now games actually will use the hyperthreads and you're looking at a $350 i7-6700k for maximum gaming performance. Even the direct equivalent of the 2500k, the i5-6600k, is about $245 now. In 2011 the Titan X equivalent was the $500 GTX 580, now it's the $1000 Titan X. The $600 GTX 1080 equivalent was the $250 GTX 560 Ti.

still got my i5-2500k :cry

[baseline bum]

still got my i5-2500k :cry

Probably the greatest gaming cpu ever made.

[Cry Havoc]

I thought PC gaming was cheaper than ever, though. That's what everyone says anyway.


Everyone is full of shit then. :lol

Back in 2011 an i5-2500k was the best gaming cpu out there, nothing would make use of an i7. Now games actually will use the hyperthreads and you're looking at a $350 i7-6700k for maximum gaming performance. Even the direct equivalent of the 2500k, the i5-6600k, is about $245 now. In 2011 the Titan X equivalent was the $500 GTX 580, now it's the $1000 Titan X. The $600 GTX 1080 equivalent was the $250 GTX 560 Ti.

You can build a computer that will run all games on high for ~$800. It might not have gotten significantly cheaper from say, 2013, but it definitely still very affordable.

[baseline bum]

You can build a computer that will run all games on high for ~$800. It might not have gotten significantly cheaper from say, 2013, but it definitely still very affordable.

It's undeniable there has been extreme inflation in GPU prices. $600 for a midrange die is crazy. And then AMD putting out their small die at $300?

[Cry Havoc]

https://pcpartpicker.com/b/whVYcf

Complete build for $700. The 380 is a solid card that will land most games on high @ 60fps.

[Cry Havoc]

It's undeniable there has been extreme inflation in GPU prices. $600 for a midrange die is crazy. And then AMD putting out their small die at $300?

What are you talking about? $600 gets you a top of the line card that runs every game on max detail.

[baseline bum]

What are you talking about? $600 gets you a top of the line card that runs every game on max detail.

It's a midrange die, the big one is GP100, and that bitch is going to be at least $1000 on launch. Those were the $500 cards before 2012.

[Cry Havoc]

It's a midrange die, the big one is GP100, and that bitch is going to be at least $1000 on launch. Those were the $500 cards before 2012.

So because top end video cards are becoming much more powerful, it's evidence that gaming is more expensive?

I disagree, I think that it shows the niche market that is extremely high end gaming is a growing demographic, and that more people are willing to put that kind of money forward for a truly monster system.

Right now a $230 card will get you 1080p 60fps gaming on almost every new title on the market. That is something that used to be true only of cards that cost $500 or more.

For comparison, a top of the line computer when I started college in 2000 was $3000. (top of the line card at the time, but not a top end processor)

My first built computer in 2007 was $2000.

My rig in 2011 that I'm currently typing this on was around $1400.

All of those computers when released where what was necessary to do what you can do today for $700, as the build above shows (less if you look around for deals).

A $1000 card is an outlier in the market, it's not reflective of what is necessary to run 99% of titles. The cost of a La Ferrari is not reflective of the cost of a Honda Civic or Ford Mustang.

[baseline bum]

Right now a $230 card will get you 1080p 60fps gaming on almost every new title on the market. That is something that used to be true only of cards that cost $500 or more.

I don't know man. An R9 380x is the best $230 card and that can't hang in games like Witcher 3, GTA V, and Rise of the Tomb Raider. It's not very different from the framerates a 560 Ti was getting in games five years ago even though 1080p was a pretty high end resolution then while it's a somewhat lower end resolution now. You might have had a case a year to a year and a half ago when you could find R9 290s for that price for a few months.

How much of that $2000 on your 2007 system was the monitor? I remember paying $1000 for a 21" or 24" Samsung 1080p panel back in 2006. No argument that monitors were crazy expensive back then. CPUs didn't seem a whole lot different though. Conroe was like $250 and you only really got raped if you bought something like Kentsfield, but quadcores were useless for gaming back then, especially considering how new dual core was for gaming. What was the king of the hill gpu back then? 8800 GTX?

[Cry Havoc]

I don't know man. An R9 380x is the best $230 card and that can't hang in games like Witcher 3, GTA V, and Rise of the Tomb Raider. It's not very different from the framerates a 560 Ti was getting in games five years ago even though 1080p was a pretty high end resolution then while it's a somewhat lower end resolution now. You might have had a case a year to a year and a half ago when you could find R9 290s for that price for a few months.

How much of that $2000 on your 2007 system was the monitor? I remember paying $1000 for a 21" or 24" Samsung 1080p panel back in 2006. No argument that monitors were crazy expensive back then. CPUs didn't seem a whole lot different though. Conroe was like $250 and you only really got raped if you bought something like Kentsfield, but quadcores were useless for gaming back then, especially considering how new dual core was for gaming. What was the king of the hill gpu back then? 8800 GTX?

Yep 8800 GTX was the beast back then. I had the 8800 GTS, the one that 3 of my friends had, they all died within 3 months of each other. I was unhappy.

FWIW, a 380x gets you 39 FPS on Witcher 3 ultra quality. That is not shabby at all. CPU's have definitely fallen off though, no argument there, although VR might change that up a bit in the next couple of years.

[baseline bum]

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[baseline bum]

Nvidia is claiming a 70% improvement for the 1080 over the 980. Titan X gives a little less than 30% higher framerate than the 980 at 1080p, so that would mean the 1080 would give a little more than 30% higher framerate than the Titan X.

http://cdn.videocardz.com/1/2016/05/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-1080-Crafted-for-speed.jpg

I really hope people bench Quantum Break and Hitman with this card though to see how well Nvidia handles async compute.

[baseline bum]

LOL everyone is trying to clear stock on Maxwell now. I got an email from newegg with a bunch of Zotac Maxwell cards on fire sale prices. One of the deals was a $256 GTX 970. If SLI wasn't so shitty I'd be tempted to jump on it, but 970 SLI barely outperforms the Titan X and isn't worth it for all the power used, heat generated, and worst of all microstutter you get with multi-card setups.

[baseline bum]

Man the 1070 really looks cut down to hell vs the 1080 now that official specs have surfaced, much moreso than any 70 series card Nvidia has ever released. It has 1920 CUDA cores vs the 1080's 2560 CUDA cores; that's a 25% cut in cores. By comparison the GTX 970 had 18.75% fewer CUDA cores than the 980, the GTX 670 had 12.5% fewer CUDA cores than the GTX 680, and the GTX 570 had 6.25% fewer CUDA cores than the GTX 580. Then the GTX 1070 uses 8 GHz effective clocked GDDR5 vs 10 GHz effective clocked GDDR5X like the 1080 has. I'm not so sure this card is going to beat Titan X across the board now.

[Cry Havoc]

Man the 1070 really looks cut down to hell vs the 1080 now that official specs have surfaced, much moreso than any 70 series card Nvidia has ever released. It has 1920 CUDA cores vs the 1080's 2560 CUDA cores; that's a 25% cut in cores. By comparison the GTX 970 had 18.75% fewer CUDA cores than the 980, the GTX 670 had 12.5% fewer CUDA cores than the GTX 680, and the GTX 570 had 6.25% fewer CUDA cores than the GTX 580. Then the GTX 1070 uses 8 GHz effective clocked GDDR5 vs 10 GHz effective clocked GDDR5X like the 1080 has. I'm not so sure this card is going to beat Titan X across the board now.

Holy shit. :wow

http://videocardz.com/60253/amd-radeon-r9-480-3dmark11-benchmarks

The AMD 480 is reportedly almost as fast as a 980ti and will be priced under $250.

If this verifies, AMD just smashed Nvidia in the face with the gauntlet. No one should be buying 1070s right now.

[baseline bum]

Holy shit. :wow

http://videocardz.com/60253/amd-radeon-r9-480-3dmark11-benchmarks

The AMD 480 is reportedly almost as fast as a 980ti and will be priced under $250.

If this verifies, AMD just smashed Nvidia in the face with the gauntlet. No one should be buying 1070s right now.

You're reading that wrong, the alleged 480 is between the 970 and 390x. I wouldn't buy it for $250 when 480x looks to be between 980 and Fury for $300.

[Cry Havoc]

You're reading that wrong, the alleged 480 is between the 970 and 390x. I wouldn't buy it for $250 when 480x looks to be between 980 and Fury for $300.

Yeah, that's accurate. Either way, they both look to be a pretty good deal. Weird that Nvidia continues to go after the high end market year after year while AMD usually offers more bang/buck around $200-300.

[Cry Havoc]

Meanwhile... a top rated comment on the Overwatch subreddit post:


If someone's brave enough to install this, please report back on how it goes. I'm certainly not brave enough to install a new Nvidia driver on day one given their track record for the last few months.

[baseline bum]

Meanwhile... a top rated comment on the Overwatch subreddit post:

Nvidia had one driver that didn't install right through GeForce Experience a couple of months ago and you had to go into safe mode to disable it. That was a disaster of a release, but the others have been fine.

[baseline bum]

Yeah, that's accurate. Either way, they both look to be a pretty good deal. Weird that Nvidia continues to go after the high end market year after year while AMD usually offers more bang/buck around $200-300.

I think it's still a big incomplete on grading these cards until the new Christmas season games start coming out in late October and we see whether async compute is going to be important or not. AMD cards tend to have a lot of lasting value, much moreso than Nvidia. But Nvidia tends to usually be better for the first year or so you own the card, especially if you play games on launch. I think it's because AMD rebrands a lot of their cards, so they have to keep drivers optimized for them as long as they're still selling the chips to AIBs.

[baseline bum]

But I still really want to see AMD hit a home run here, because they have some crushing debt payments due in early 2019 that could push it into bankruptcy. And if they don't hit big in the next couple of years they will be forced into mass layoffs over that debt and the driver support will likely be shit.

[baseline bum]

DJR210
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First leaked 1070 benchmarks: this same source was spot on with the 1080 result I posted in post #33 of this thread.

http://cdn.videocardz.com/1/2016/05/GeForce-GTX-1070-3DMark-FireStrike-Performance.png

[baseline bum]

That's an enormous delta between the 1070 and 1080. This card really should be called the 1060 Ti. Nevertheless, that's a huge amount of performance it's going to deliver, just edging out Titan X, if that leak is accurate.

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DJR210 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=42671)
313 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=43150)

First leaked 1070 benchmarks: this same source was spot on with the 1080 result I posted in post #33 of this thread.

http://cdn.videocardz.com/1/2016/05/GeForce-GTX-1070-3DMark-FireStrike-Performance.png
So basically a Titan X with less power consumption for $400~? Hard to argue with that. But in curious what Polaris delivers in the $250 range. If it's fury X tier that would be pretty impressive

[baseline bum]

So basically a Titan X with less power consumption for $400~? Hard to argue with that. But in curious what Polaris delivers in the $250 range. If it's fury X tier that would be pretty impressive

Nah, it's full Polaris that's rumored to be a little below Fury tier, but air cooled cut down Fury, not the full watercooled Fury X.

[baseline bum]

The NDA for Polaris isn't up until June 29th?

http://videocardz.com/60373/amd-polaris-tech-day-nda-ends-on-june-29th

How the fuck is this card not close to being ready for sale by now? They were demoing a working Polaris 11 card at CES in January. Are they just getting fucked by Global Foundries again? GloFo already failed them in making a 20 nm process in 2013, which is why their Hawaii cards (R9 290/290x/390/390x) ran so hot on 28 nm when they were supposedly designed for 20 nm.

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The NDA for Polaris isn't up until June 29th?

http://videocardz.com/60373/amd-polaris-tech-day-nda-ends-on-june-29th

How the fuck is this card not close to being ready for sale by now? They were demoing a working Polaris 11 card at CES in January. Are they just getting fucked by Global Foundries again? GloFo already failed them in making a 20 nm process in 2013, which is why their Hawaii cards (R9 290/290x/390/390x) ran so hot on 28 nm when they were supposedly designed for 20 nm.
Thoughts on the 480?

[baseline bum]

Thoughts on the 480?

One of the leaked slides from their presentation in Macau has them comparing it to the GTX 970 and GTX 980, so it would be reasonable to venture it performs somewhere in between them. Hopefully it's not just between the 970 and 980 in VR though, hopefully that slide means in standard gaming performance. It could be a nice buy at $200 for the 4GB version and $230 for the 8GB version if so, but if it's just better than those two in VR because of elimination of drawing unseen pixels (the same way the 1080 is 2x the Titan X in VR, but about 25% in regular gaming) then this card will be a real failure. Reviews don't hit until June 29th, and I'm really skeptical of this card since AMD only showed a single benchmark for Ashes of the Singularity in their Computex presentation. Usually at Computex they hype their new cards to hell, but this time the head of the Radeon Technologies Group didn't look at all enthused about his chip.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVlsdwEDRI8

[baseline bum]

A graphic from AMD's upcoming marketing campaign for the RX 480 :lmao

http://blogs-images.forbes.com/jasonevangelho/files/2016/06/AMD-Uprising-2.jpg

The Radeon Rebellion :rollin

[leemajors]

A graphic from AMD's upcoming marketing campaign for the RX 480 :lmao

http://blogs-images.forbes.com/jasonevangelho/files/2016/06/AMD-Uprising-2.jpg

The Radeon Rebellion :rollin

wow... :lmao #BETTERED

[baseline bum]

Thoughts on the 480?

As it's getting close to release date some Firestrike benchmarks leaked seem to indicate performance roughly in between the 970 and 980. Not quite the Fury/Nano level performance people were hoping for (though maybe the 1.5 GHz models could inch closer to that), but that's still pretty awesome for $199.

[TDMVPDPOY]

lol power problems https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/4qfwd4/rx480_fails_pcie_specification/

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lol power problems https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/4qfwd4/rx480_fails_pcie_specification/
:lmao Just came here to post this

:lmao :lmao :lmao

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As it's getting close to release date some Firestrike benchmarks leaked seem to indicate performance roughly in between the 970 and 980. Not quite the Fury/Nano level performance people were hoping for (though maybe the 1.5 GHz models could inch closer to that), but that's still pretty awesome for $199.
Quote from that reddit thread


Hardware.fr confirms this too. They also have a retail version (Sapphire 480) which exhibits the same problem. They also confirms the power usage going over 150W with both a review and retail version of the card.They added also something interesting, they removed power and temperature limits and tested the card with no OC. (they called it "Uber"). The card pulled almost 200W in Witcher 3.
Source: http://www.hardware.fr/articles/951-9/consommation-efficacite-energetique.html

:lmao

[TDMVPDPOY]

man this card 480 is just a rebrand, why didnt they just decrease the nano fury x to 200bucks instead...

but at leasts the 480 is probably entry lvl card now, wait till they fix whatever bullshit and release the vega for enthuasist fanboys...


might as well go use on board graphics, with the way 480 is doing

[baseline bum]

man this card 480 is just a rebrand, why didnt they just decrease the nano fury x to 200bucks instead...

but at leasts the 480 is probably entry lvl card now, wait till they fix whatever bullshit and release the vega for enthuasist fanboys...


might as well go use on board graphics, with the way 480 is doing

The Nano is a highly binned 600mm^2 die using HBM1 memory. It's extremely expensive to manufacture for those three reasons and I'm not sure they could make a profit selling it at $400 much less $200.

[baseline bum]

Quote from that reddit thread



:lmao

AMD pulled the same shit with the R9 295x2, using two 8-pin for a card that drew 500W. It was much more extreme with the 295x2 since each 8-pin is rated for 150W and the PCIE slot for 75W, so that they only recommended you used it with something like 8 different PSUs they had tested that could go so far out of the ATX and PCIE specs. At least with this card you're only talking about 15W out of spec vs the 125W out of spec the R9 295x2 used. But the R9 295x2 was never going to be used with low end hardware like the RX 480 will be, so who knows, maybe this will cause AMD some really major headaches. This is probably AMD being really shady though, they'll release a driver that brings the power consumption down to 150W now after all the reviews have been done at 165W.

[baseline bum]

Holy fuck, the AMD flagship R9 490 is going to be ....






































































two fucking RX 480 on one pcb! :rollin

[baseline bum]

AMD is always advertising their DX12 performance, but there is no DX12 game other than Ashes of Singularity that supports multi gpu in any way whatsoever. AMD is done, they need to just get it over with and sell the Radeon Technologies Group to Intel.

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Holy fuck, the AMD flagship R9 490 is going to be ....






































































two fucking RX 480 on one pcb! :rollin
No way :lmao

[baseline bum]

No way :lmao

http://wccftech.com/amd-rx-490-dual-gpu/

What a disgrace. Games with heavy temporal effects (so that the frames are dependent on each other) like Mirrors Edge Catalyst actually perform worse with two gpus than one. This is pathetic, they make a 165W gpu on 14 nm that's roughly even with the 970 so now to challenge the 1070/1080 they'll probably need to make a 300W gpu. AMD just needs to sell off their gpu division to Intel, the company is too poor to put enough money into R&D to compete with Nvidia. At their current performance per watt I can't see any way they'd be able to make something that could challenge a 300W/250W Nvidia GP100/GP102 chip (rumored Titan, 1080Ti). I mean a 450W gpu? Have fun cooling that bitch, the 250W cards like Titan X are hard enough already.

[ElNono]

http://wccftech.com/amd-rx-490-dual-gpu/

What a disgrace. Games with heavy temporal effects (so that the frames are dependent on each other) like Mirrors Edge Catalyst actually perform worse with two gpus than one. This is pathetic, they make a 165W gpu on 14 nm that's roughly even with the 970 so now to challenge the 1070/1080 they'll probably need to make a 300W gpu. AMD just needs to sell off their gpu division to Intel, the company is too poor to put enough money into R&D to compete with Nvidia. At their current performance per watt I can't see any way they'd be able to make something that could challenge a 300W/250W Nvidia GP100/GP102 chip (rumored Titan, 1080Ti). I mean a 450W gpu? Have fun cooling that bitch, the 250W cards like Titan X are hard enough already.

AMD going down is not good for consumers, tbh... even the appearance of a semblance of competition, both on cpus and gpus, ensures prices are in check.

Frankly, I wish some chinese company like Lenovo bought them out. The Chinese steal IP like crazy, and they would likely put a much better product on both fronts at diluted prices.

[baseline bum]

AMD going down is not good for consumers, tbh... even the appearance of a semblance of competition, both on cpus and gpus, ensures prices are in check.

Frankly, I wish some chinese company like Lenovo bought them out. The Chinese steal IP like crazy, and they would likely put a much better product on both fronts at diluted prices.

Nvidia is already pretty much a monopoly, and the prices reflect that. In the last 5 years we have seen the midrange GXX04 chips go from $250 (GTX 560 Ti) to $500 (GTX 680) to $550 (GTX 980) to $650 (GTX 1080) and the highend chips go from $500 (GTX 580) to $1000 (GTX Titan / GTX Titan Black / GTX Titan X). AMD just keeps failing and failing, I'd love to see Intel jump into the discrete gpu business by buying them out.

[baseline bum]

I mean shit, the small die GP106 is about to launch at $300 in the GTX 1060. The 2011 equivalent was the GF116 GTX 550 Ti that was $150. Lower midrange cards for $300 is fucking perverse.

[ElNono]

Nvidia is already pretty much a monopoly, and the prices reflect that. In the last 5 years we have seen the midrange GXX04 chips go from $250 (GTX 560 Ti) to $500 (GTX 680) to $550 (GTX 980) to $650 (GTX 1080) and the highend chips go from $500 (GTX 580) to $1000 (GTX Titan / GTX Titan Black / GTX Titan X). AMD just keeps failing and failing, I'd love to see Intel jump into the discrete gpu business by buying them out.

I'm just not sure that there won't be antitrust issues for such an attempt at buying any portion of AMD... last I heard Intel was actually investing in them, kinda to keep them afloat, so they don't get monopolistic scrutiny. A lot of times the fact that you can just show there's competition, even if shitty, is enough.

Another potential buyer could be Microsoft, tbh... now they're doing an Apple and building their own hardware, and they could also use it as leverage to gain some $$$ from sony's business.

[ElNono]

On the other hand, both of these guys are trying to compete in the low-power, phone/tablet market. NVidia has tried a bunch of times to penetrate there but unsuccessfully so far (their Tegra chips have been really good performers, but cost-wise, they can't compete with the chinese).

[baseline bum]

No way :lmao

The GTX 1060 just launched. It looks to mostly trade blows with the GTX 980 at 1080p.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtWIuaGsrjg

It's nice that you can actually get them for $250. I saw a PNY GTX 1060 for $250 on Best Buy's website.

[DJR210]

The Chinese steal IP like crazy, and they would likely put a much better product on both fronts at diluted prices.

:lol

http://blogs-images.forbes.com/erikkain/files/2016/05/FUZE.png
Ripped off everybody, no shame.. Should have included a Wii-mote too

[313]

The GTX 1060 just launched. It looks to mostly trade blows with the GTX 980 at 1080p.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtWIuaGsrjg

It's nice that you can actually get them for $250. I saw a PNY GTX 1060 for $250 on Best Buy's website.For the 1080p gamer like me, do you think the 1070 is worth the $200 more?

[baseline bum]

For the 1080p gamer like me, do you think the 1070 is worth the $200 more?

I don't know how much $200 means to you, that's really only something you can answer. You'll definitely want at least an i5-6500 or i5-4590 to run either though. The 1060 looks like one of the best 1080p cards in a while for $250. The 1070 is 35% faster on average at 1080p according to the techpowerup.com review, but costs about 70% more (comparing a $430 aftermarket 1070 to a $250 aftermarket 1060).

[DJR210]

Hell, considering I'm not planning a monitor upgrade for a while, the 1060 doesn't look half bad at 250..

[baseline bum]

Personally I run a 970 at 1080p and am very happy with it even in the most difficult to run games like Witcher 3 and Crysis 3 (I may just skip this generation), and the 1060 is about 15% more powerful than the 970. For Witcher 3 I anticipate you'd be able to run 1080p most settings ultra, HBAO+ on, Hairworks off, a few things like render distance at high, and get close to a locked 60 fps (Witcher 3 is really hard to tune for a completely locked 60 fps without turning settings way down or buying a really overkill card). Crysis 3 you'd likely need some mix of high and very high (especially with an i5 instead of i7). GTA V you could max out everything but the advanced settings, MSAA, reflection MSAA, and perhaps grass and you should easily pull a locked 60 fps.

[baseline bum]

Hell, considering I'm not planning a monitor upgrade for a while, the 1060 doesn't look half bad at 250..

If I had your monitor I'd really be leaning 1070 to play shit at 100+ fps. But yeah, there is such a huge difference in price between the two cards. There is no such thing as the mythical $380 GTX 1070. :(

[baseline bum]

The 1060 doesn't overclock as well as the 980, but it still shits all over the 480 for OC considering how much AMD cheaped out on the cooler for the reference card.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSdyRgAjq4A

[baseline bum]

The 1060 will definitely age better than the 980 though, especially since it has more vram and can do async compute much better than the 980. I imagine it'll pull away from the 980 over the next few months from driver improvement (same for 1070 over 980 Ti).

[ElNono]

:lol

http://blogs-images.forbes.com/erikkain/files/2016/05/FUZE.png
Ripped off everybody, no shame.. Should have included a Wii-mote too

:lol

Probably runs better than the XLOL One...

[baseline bum]

AMD being such a piece of shit the last two years really sucks for consumers, now Nvidia can just go nuts with monopoly pricing. First they put out their midrange GTX 1080 at $700 and now the new Titan X is $1200? It's not even the big die chip GP100, it's the smaller GP102. And it's not even the full GP102, it's fucking cutdown. Which means there will be a $1500 Titan X Black in a few months with the full GP102 chip. A fucking Titan is now no longer the high end chip anymore and it's $1200. :vomit:

[TDMVPDPOY]

AMD being such a piece of shit the last two years really sucks for consumers, now Nvidia can just go nuts with monopoly pricing. First they put out their midrange GTX 1080 at $700 and now the new Titan X is $1200? It's not even the big die chip GP100, it's the smaller GP102. And it's not even the full GP102, it's fucking cutdown. Which means there will be a $1500 Titan X Black in a few months with the full GP102 chip. A fucking Titan is now no longer the high end chip anymore and it's $1200. :vomit:

this is what i dont get with nvidia

they put a $$ premium on monitors that have gsync their technology, quip that with a nvidia card u get extra % performance
now if u dont buy a gsync monitor, u dont see those benefits but only the performance of the nvidia video card...
double dipping into pockets for premium on a gsync monitor and premium on their top end cards cause there is no competitor

i wonder when they do all t hese comparison tests, do they test it on a non gsync/freesync monitor that tells the real performance of t hese cards, or they just test on one monitor which benefits one cards performance over the other...

[TDMVPDPOY]

roflmao radeon pro new cards 1tb hahahahaa wtf

show ur high end vega with hbm2 ****, fck this radeon pro bs

[TDMVPDPOY]

more amd rx480 reviews

http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/sapphire-rx-480-nitro-oc-4gb-8gb-review/

[TDMVPDPOY]

for all the shit rx480 is gettin, how hard is it to get ur hands onto one...seems like t hey only release a limited number to each reseller, and it get sold out so quick..

same with the nvidia cards...

are they controlling the price by holding out flooding the market with excess supply?

[baseline bum]

for all the shit rx480 is gettin, how hard is it to get ur hands onto one...seems like t hey only release a limited number to each reseller, and it get sold out so quick..

same with the nvidia cards...

are they controlling the price by holding out flooding the market with excess supply?

Miners are buying the shit out of the AMD cards.

[baseline bum]

Man AMD is really in the shit. They have just confirmed Vega for 1H 2017, not even Q1 2017, much less the October 2016 rumors. So GTX 1070/1080 are going to be running unopposed for a year. And if Vega drops at the end of Q2 2017 it might be going up against Nvidia's Volta lineup, which is claiming a 30% improvement over Pascal. It's like AMD is just ceding 1440p and 4k. Watch GTX 1170 be a $500 card, GTX 1160 a $350 one, and GTX 1180 a $750 card. :pctoss

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Man AMD is really in the shit. They have just confirmed Vega for 1H 2017, not even Q1 2017, much less the October 2016 rumors. So GTX 1070/1080 are going to be running unopposed for a year. And if Vega drops at the end of Q2 2017 it might be going up against Nvidia's Volta lineup, which is claiming a 30% improvement over Pascal. It's like AMD is just ceding 1440p and 4k. Watch GTX 1170 be a $500 card, GTX 1160 a $350 one, and GTX 1180 a $750 card. :pctoss
You think we'll see new Nvidia cards that soon?

[baseline bum]

You think we'll see new Nvidia cards that soon?

I'm kind of skeptical they would release it so quickly, but that's what has been rumored a lot lately and it would line up with Nvidia's earlier roadmaps. I think it wouldn't make a lot of sense though since they don't want to completely kill off AMD and be labeled a monopoly (though they're getting pretty close to being one already).

[TDMVPDPOY]

for the time being, just invest in a better monitor if u cant afford the graphics card, get that later

[baseline bum]

Wow AMD has the shittiest game bundle I have ever seen with a card. If you buy an RX 480 instead of getting an actual game you get a coupon for $20 off Battlefield 1. Except you have to use it on the $80 version of the game. :lmao

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16800995264

[Cry Havoc]

Wow AMD has the shittiest game bundle I have ever seen with a card. If you buy an RX 480 instead of getting an actual game you get a coupon for $20 off Battlefield 1. Except you have to use it on the $80 version of the game. :lmao

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16800995264

FWIW BF1 is so much fucking fun

[leemajors]

I got a 1050 TI coming from a r7 200. lol 2400 FPS in q2 :lol

[baseline bum]

I got a 1050 TI coming from a r7 200. lol 2400 FPS in q2 :lol

It's funny, I was watching a video that came out today from Gamers Nexus on youtube where they were showing the GTX 1050 Ti beating out the only three year old GTX 780 Ti that cost $750.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_FJyfttrwU

[Cry Havoc]

It's funny, I was watching a video that came out today from Gamers Nexus on youtube where they were showing the GTX 1050 Ti beating out the only three year old GTX 780 Ti that cost $750.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_FJyfttrwU

The 7xx line of NVidia cards has probably aged more poorly than any other set of cards in NVidia's lineup, at least in recent history. I built a computer for a friend of mine and feel terrible for setting him up with a 770, it gets chewed up by BF1.

[baseline bum]

The 7xx line of NVidia cards has probably aged more poorly than any other set of cards in NVidia's lineup, at least in recent history. I built a computer for a friend of mine and feel terrible for setting him up with a 770, it gets chewed up by BF1.

The 200 series aged way worse though, didn't it? I remember the 580 aging really badly too. The 780 has to be far and away the worst card of Kepler though. At least my 970 is still going pretty strong after 2 1/3 years. I was thinking of getting a 1070 but the only game my 970 really struggles on is Mafia 3, which struggles at 1080p on every card other than the Titan XP.

[Cry Havoc]

The 200 series aged way worse though, didn't it? I remember the 580 aging really badly too. The 780 has to be far and away the worst card of Kepler though. At least my 970 is still going pretty strong after 2 1/3 years. I was thinking of getting a 1070 but the only game my 970 really struggles on is Mafia 3, which struggles at 1080p on every card other than the Titan XP.

IIRC the 2xx wasn't that great out of the gate except for the top of the line. The 7xxs were monsters on day 1 but they have fallen off really quickly and Nvidia doesn't support them that well either.

[TDMVPDPOY]

u guys been reading about ryzen cpu chips and vega?

looks promising, benchmarks don't come out till 28/2


ps.
do u guys buy no name brand monitors from korea? they got a 34inch 100mhz ips monitor equivalent to what acer x34 or other top brands around 300-400bucks cheaper...

[DJR210]

u guys been reading about ryzen cpu chips and vega?

looks promising, benchmarks don't come out till 28/2


ps.
do u guys buy no name brand monitors from korea? they got a 34inch 100mhz ips monitor equivalent to what acer x34 or other top brands around 300-400bucks cheaper...

Plenty of people have good experiences w/ those korean monitors, or the QNIX ones.. They're also very overclockable.

[TDMVPDPOY]

hs, u guys seen the new benchmarks for the amd cpus? impressive....

I might go amd freesync for my next build...

[baseline bum]

hs, u guys seen the new benchmarks for the amd cpus? impressive....

I might go amd freesync for my next build...

Damn Ryzen looks fucking legit. Impressive seeing the $400 R7 1700X holding its own against the $1000 i7-6900k.

[TDMVPDPOY]

vega chips are out and bench tested fyi fellas...equivalent to 1070 apparently..

i wonder if the dogs are going to start hording cards again to keep it in tight supply like they did with the 1080 and 480rx

anyway time to buy amd shares? they are around 14bucks now, use to be 90 bucks then drop all the way down to 2bucks...lol

[baseline bum]

vega chips are out and bench tested fyi fellas...equivalent to 1070 apparently..

i wonder if the dogs are going to start hording cards again to keep it in tight supply like they did with the 1080 and 480rx

anyway time to buy amd shares? they are around 14bucks now, use to be 90 bucks then drop all the way down to 2bucks...lol

No they're not, I watched Lisa Su say a couple of days ago that Vega was coming in Q2.

[baseline bum]

Shit man, Ryzen sucks. The $500 R7 1800X is about on par with the i5-4690k that sold for $230 two and a half years ago when it comes to gaming.

http://media.gamersnexus.net/images/media/2017/CPUs/1800x/ryzen-r7-1800x-bench-wd2.png

http://media.gamersnexus.net/images/media/2017/CPUs/1800x/ryzen-r7-1800x-bench-bf1.png

http://media.gamersnexus.net/images/media/2017/CPUs/1800x/ryzen-r7-1800x-gtav.png

http://media.gamersnexus.net/images/media/2017/CPUs/1800x/ryzen-r7-1800x-mll.png

http://media.gamersnexus.net/images/media/2017/CPUs/1800x/ryzen-r7-1800x-bench-total-war.png


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7UBHjtCXhU

Get in here DJR210, Cry Havoc, ElNono, 140, 313 and the rest of the master race.

[baseline bum]

I should have figured this was going to have disappointing gaming performance when AMD kept the review embargo until launch date. Though I guess I should have figured this was going to have disappointing gaming performance when I saw the name AMD.

RIP AMD. You guys were awesome from 1997-2006. I guess it's Intel Master Race for good now.

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Hey, at least they still make good GPUs!!!

[baseline bum]

Hey, at least they still make good GPUs!!!

LOL almost a year later and still no answer for the GTX 1070, much less the GTX 1080 Ti coming out Sunday that can do 4k 60 fps in most games at high settings for $700. No way that company isn't bankrupt by 2019 when all their crushing debt comes due.

[baseline bum]

LOL AMD was trying to make reviewers run their gaming CPU benchmarks at 4k so the tests would be gpu bound and thus give the same results as the Intel i7s. DJR210 where's that pic of you dancing on AMD's grave? :lol

[ElNono]

I'm wondering where Intel is going from here, tbh... their chips haven't really improved all that much since Sandy Bridge. AMD has caught up to the i5 at least (crofl), but I'm also concerned that the latest batch from Intel was more or less a flop, and I don't see where they can take another big leap looking forward...

[baseline bum]

I'm wondering where Intel is going from here, tbh... their chips haven't really improved all that much since Sandy Bridge. AMD has caught up to the i5 at least (crofl), but I'm also concerned that the latest batch from Intel was more or less a flop, and I don't see where they can take another big leap looking forward...

Skylake was an alright jump from Haswell. For overclocking Kaby Lake isn't bad tbh, Asus claims something like 80% of i5-7600k can hit 5GHz with a decent Z270 board and liquid cooling. That's definitely not the case with Skylake or any other generation since Sandy Bridge (which overclocked like a madman since it used solder instead of a cheap paste between the die and the ihs).

Speaking of the cheap paste, that's something Intel could correct today and probably boost their speeds even more. Kaby Lake is pretty notorious for its temps improving drastically after a delid and application of better thermal paste between the die and ihs. Much moreso than even the first run of Haswell.

[DJR210]

Shit man, Ryzen sucks. The $500 R7 1800X is about on par with the i5-4690k that sold for $230 two and a half years ago when it comes to gaming.

http://media.gamersnexus.net/images/media/2017/CPUs/1800x/ryzen-r7-1800x-bench-wd2.png

http://media.gamersnexus.net/images/media/2017/CPUs/1800x/ryzen-r7-1800x-bench-bf1.png

http://media.gamersnexus.net/images/media/2017/CPUs/1800x/ryzen-r7-1800x-gtav.png

http://media.gamersnexus.net/images/media/2017/CPUs/1800x/ryzen-r7-1800x-mll.png

http://media.gamersnexus.net/images/media/2017/CPUs/1800x/ryzen-r7-1800x-bench-total-war.png


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7UBHjtCXhU

Get in here DJR210, Cry Havoc, ElNono, 140, 313 and the rest of the master race.

Yeah I figured this was gonna be the case too.. All the geeks jumping the gun on the other tech forums about their new AMD builds lol.. At the least Intel did have to cut prices I heard

[DJR210]

My 3570k at 4.5 still puttin in that work :tu

[baseline bum]

My 3570k at 4.5 still puttin in that work :tu

AMD was trying to make reviewers benchmark at 4k so the R7 and i7 cpus looked the same in gaming and they told reviewers turn off features like multicore enchancement when doing their Intel benchmarks. :lol

Skip to the 40:20 mark:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1dhYDm7SLw

:lol AMD being chickenshits
:lol Testing cpu gaming performance at 4k where you're always gpu bound
:lol going bankrupt in 2019

LOL AMD was also showing off how their R7 1800X supposedly beat the i7-6900k in gaming in Sniper Elite 4 at their Ryzen demo last week. But they were running it at 4k and on the AMD system staring at the sky more so there would be less shit to render and thus higher framerates. :lol

:lol crooked AMD

[ElNono]

Skylake was an alright jump from Haswell. For overclocking Kaby Lake isn't bad tbh, Asus claims something like 80% of i5-7600k can hit 5GHz with a decent Z270 board and liquid cooling. That's definitely not the case with Skylake or any other generation since Sandy Bridge (which overclocked like a madman since it used solder instead of a cheap paste between the die and the ihs).

Speaking of the cheap paste, that's something Intel could correct today and probably boost their speeds even more. Kaby Lake is pretty notorious for its temps improving drastically after a delid and application of better thermal paste between the die and ihs. Much moreso than even the first run of Haswell.

I think the improvement from here on out are going to come in the form of on-chip memory. The speed battle is a losing battle, IMO, unless something magical happens. More cores only matter to an extent too.

Built-in EDRam that programs can tap for scratch memory can actually make a big difference performance-wise. And that's an area they can grow over time.

[313]

At the least Intel did have to cut prices I heardPretty all AMD offers at this point

[TDMVPDPOY]

if vega is equivalent to 1070, then 1080 price drop due to TI release...wtf is going to buy vega when 1080 looks more affordable now...

the morons marketing dept of amd, needs to be fired man....poor strategy and marketing campaign from them...allowing NVidia 8month to do whatever they want, then amd releases a product but no specs or benchmarkets for set date, NVidia jumps the gun and releases TI b4 vega announcement...lol amd

[TDMVPDPOY]

when t hey do benchmarks for vga cards, are they using a monitor that doesn't have gsync/freesync which benefits either amd/NVidia cards?

hence if u look at most benchmarks when it comes to gtx1080+, they don't use 480, but compared it r9 fury cards which has HBM memory compared to ddr4 crap..

I wonder amd not getting hands on hbm for their 480 lineup is hurting them? how about 500 series coming out soon which is not hbm.....

vega better have hbm, hence fsync2 better be 100mhz+ or else they are still behind the 8ball

[baseline bum]

when t hey do benchmarks for vga cards, are they using a monitor that doesn't have gsync/freesync which benefits either amd/NVidia cards?

hence if u look at most benchmarks when it comes to gtx1080+, they don't use 480, but compared it r9 fury cards which has HBM memory compared to ddr4 crap..

I wonder amd not getting hands on hbm for their 480 lineup is hurting them? how about 500 series coming out soon which is not hbm.....

vega better have hbm, hence fsync2 better be 100mhz+ or else they are still behind the 8ball

HBM2 is too fucking expensive for a gaming card right now. It would have been especially retarded to put on the Polaris cards (RX 480/470/460) with their small dies.

[TDMVPDPOY]

with fsync2, do u think amd is going to charge a premium like NVidia with gsync?

[TDMVPDPOY]

latest information on Vega cards.

https://videocardz.net/browse/amd/radeon-500/

TL;DR

Graphics Card Core Clk Mem Clk Memory GPU GPU Config

AMD Radeon RX Vega 1550 MHz 400 MHz 8192 MB HB2 2048b AMD Vega 10 4096 : 64 : 256 CORE : ROP : TMU

AMD Radeon RX 590 1200 MHz 2000 MHz 8192 MB GD5 256b AMD Vega 11 3072 : 64 : 192 CORE : ROP : TMU

AMD Radeon RX 580 1120 MHz 2000 MHz 8192 MB GD5 256b Polaris 20 XTX 2304 : 32 : 144 CORE : ROP : TMU

AMD Radeon RX 570 926 MHz 1650 MHz 4096 MB GD5 256b Polaris 20 XL 2048 : 32 : 128CORE : ROP : TMU

AMD Radeon RX 560 1090 MHz 1750 MHz 2048 MB GD5 128b Baffin PRO 896 : 16 : 56 CORE : ROP : TMU

AMD Radeon RX 550 1190 MHz 1750 MHz 2048 MB GD5 64b AMD Polaris 12 640 : 16 : 40 CORE : ROP : TMU

[TDMVPDPOY]

hey guys

if fsync is so great and free, why aren't more users buying amd video cards but opting for NVidia? and paying a premium for them + monitor that has gsync

is it all about benchmarks and hitting max frames?

[DJR210]

I wouldn't call Freesync "great", more like serviceable.. This is judging based on user reviews and feedback I've seen since it launched. I've also seen some of the top review channels put it head to head with G-Sync and claim G-Sync performs better.

People are opting for Nvidia because they are better cards, and Nvidia has better supported drivers. Most games are created with Nvidia optimization in mind, it's rare you see a developer opt to feature AMD's gaming brand for their game.

Nvidia is the trendsetter, constantly creating new features (that actually stick around) and graphics technologies that enhance the games look.. AMD has been playing catch up to Nvidia for as long as I've been into PC gaming, and their sole selling point, although not one I give a shit about, is price to performance ratios. Cards like my 6 GB 1060, especially when found at a great price like I did, really shit on that theory though.

[Cry Havoc]

I wouldn't call Freesync "great", more like serviceable.. This is judging based on user reviews and feedback I've seen since it launched. I've also seen some of the top review channels put it head to head with G-Sync and claim G-Sync performs better.

People are opting for Nvidia because they are better cards, and Nvidia has better supported drivers. Most games are created with Nvidia optimization in mind, it's rare you see a developer opt to feature AMD's gaming brand for their game.

Nvidia is the trendsetter, constantly creating new features (that actually stick around) and graphics technologies that enhance the games look.. AMD has been playing catch up to Nvidia for as long as I've been into PC gaming, and their sole selling point, although not one I give a shit about, is price to performance ratios. Cards like my 6 GB 1060, especially when found at a great price like I did, really shit on that theory though.

I've got a freesync monitor and it's absolutely incredible. Absolutely makes a 100% difference in the smoothness of my games.

[TDMVPDPOY]

diff between fsync and gsync monitor is usually around 200bucks

then u have the video cards is also around 100-200bucks give and take...

altogether if u go amd build u save around 200-400bucks compared to gsync build...


PS. u clowns check out the new asus 2017 rog 27inch 4k 144hz gsync ? lol retails for 2k

[DJR210]

Poorsync takes the L here

[baseline bum]

Apparently XBox Scorpio will support FreeSync according to Digital Foundry.

[TDMVPDPOY]

Apparently XBox Scorpio will support FreeSync according to Digital Foundry.

ON NVIDIA SITE, the titan xp just released man.... lol curb stomping on AMD while its still down

[baseline bum]

ON NVIDIA SITE, the titan xp just released man.... lol curb stomping on AMD while its still down

LOL the third card they have called Titan X now.

[TDMVPDPOY]

benchmarks out for xp, why they comparing it to sli 1070...makes no fkn sense, at least sli 1080 or sli 1080ti

http://wccftech.com/nvidia-titan-xp-benchmarks-firestrike/

[TDMVPDPOY]

lol amd plans

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/aida64-beta-release-notes-mention-12-and-16-core-ryzen-cpus-and-rx-570580.html

going to release 12core and 16core cpus...wtf...only makes sense if u need a future workstation
even games today still fkn using 2cores max...
the market needs to get rid of 2cores for everything and start maximizing 4cores minimum....

[baseline bum]

if vega is equivalent to 1070, then 1080 price drop due to TI release...wtf is going to buy vega when 1080 looks more affordable now...

the morons marketing dept of amd, needs to be fired man....poor strategy and marketing campaign from them...allowing NVidia 8month to do whatever they want, then amd releases a product but no specs or benchmarkets for set date, NVidia jumps the gun and releases TI b4 vega announcement...lol amd

Holy fuck Vega has a 520 mm^2 die. It's going to be way more expensive to produce than the 1080 Ti (with its 471 mm^2 die), especially after you factor the cost of HBM2 in. If this card can't beat the 1080 Ti I don't see where the profit is going to come from. Especially with another month and a half for the 1080 Ti to sell while we wait for Vega.

[TDMVPDPOY]

Holy fuck Vega has a 520 mm^2 die. It's going to be way more expensive to produce than the 1080 Ti (with its 471 mm^2 die), especially after you factor the cost of HBM2 in. If this card can't beat the 1080 Ti I don't see where the profit is going to come from. Especially with another month and a half for the 1080 Ti to sell while we wait for Vega.

no fkn shit, its like they havnt decrease the size of that brick, which is meant to be a further improvement from FURY....

there was a linustechtips yt clip b4 amd ryzen/480 official release (it was at some convention), it was showcasing a vega card with duct tape covering the video card on display with some extra board attached to it drawing power or doing someshit...

and lol and all these 1080ti cards from the same manufactures who have like 3 different versions, standard, FE, then overclocked...

[TDMVPDPOY]

RYZEN5 releases, looking at the benchmarks not bad...just as good as the ryzen7 if u don't need the extra cores+threads....

seems like the ryzen cpu is built for gamers who stream shit/workstations....what u don't see in any of the benchmarks testing is results if their is any bottleneck when gaming + streaming same time vs intel cpus under same testing conditions...

[baseline bum]

I gotta admit, AMD's R5 1600 looks like it's the best gaming cpu for ~$220. Those two extra cores really help it out with minimums in games now, and I would definitely buy a Ryzen 5 system over an i5 based system. They're still not i7 when it comes to gaming, but if you don't want to spend $300+ on a cpu Ryzen 5 looks like the way to go. As of right now it really looks like there are only four cpus that make much sense for gaming:

1. Budget - Pentium G4560 for $60
2. Midrange - Ryzen R5 1600 for $220
3. High-end - i7-7700 for $315
4. Enthusiast - i7-7700k for $350

[313]

I gotta admit, AMD's R5 1600 looks like it's the best gaming cpu for ~$220. Those two extra cores really help it out with minimums in games now, and I would definitely buy a Ryzen 5 system over an i5 based system. They're still not i7 when it comes to gaming, but if you don't want to spend $300+ on a cpu Ryzen 5 looks like the way to go. As of right now it really looks like there are only four cpus that make much sense for gaming:

1. Budget - Pentium G4560 for $60
2. Midrange - Ryzen R5 1600 for $220
3. High-end - i7-7700 for $315
4. Enthusiast - i7-7700k for $350:tu AMD tbh

[TDMVPDPOY]

only reason why u go r7 is future proof that those extra cores will come handy in 5-6yrs when everyone starts utilizing more then 4 cores as mainstream

currently now they don't even fully used up 4cores for a single program.....u only stress out 4cores+ is if u got other programs running simultaneously in back...

when market wont move forward to optimize more then 4 cores, then ur better off buying a 4-6 core cpu....whatever save$$$ invest in better monitor cause that's rarely upgrade and will last you a good 10yrs+, or vga/ram/hdd


ps.
I forgot to mention t he r5+r7 doesn't have a APU...so if u buying this u better set aside money to buy a vga

only the new r3 looks like will have APU raven ridge...(lol if that dedicated apu has fsync2? that be winwin situation for clowns on a tight budget entry level)

seems like r7 cpus are dropping in prices if u check around fellas...

[Cry Havoc]

I gotta admit, AMD's R5 1600 looks like it's the best gaming cpu for ~$220. Those two extra cores really help it out with minimums in games now, and I would definitely buy a Ryzen 5 system over an i5 based system. They're still not i7 when it comes to gaming, but if you don't want to spend $300+ on a cpu Ryzen 5 looks like the way to go. As of right now it really looks like there are only four cpus that make much sense for gaming:

1. Budget - Pentium G4560 for $60
2. Midrange - Ryzen R5 1600 for $220
3. High-end - i7-7700 for $315
4. Enthusiast - i7-7700k for $350

I'd say the High-end is still the 1600x if you need it for multi-threaded applications like streaming. Those extra threads are amazing and I've talked to people who say it's incredible for multi-tasking even while gaming.

I'm building a mini-itx Ryzen computer as we speak... need a mobo for it though as there aren't any out yet. Depending on the performance of the 5xx line from AMD I might go that route or just drop a 1080 in it.

[baseline bum]

I'd say the High-end is still the 1600x if you need it for multi-threaded applications like streaming. Those extra threads are amazing and I've talked to people who say it's incredible for multi-tasking even while gaming.

I'm building a mini-itx Ryzen computer as we speak... need a mobo for it though as there aren't any out yet. Depending on the performance of the 5xx line from AMD I might go that route or just drop a 1080 in it.

I'm not 13 though so IDGAF about streaming. It sounds crazy to say, but the 1080 is actually pretty good value these days. I'd spend $500 on a 1080 before I'd spend $400 on a 1070. When the good 1080s were $700 and the good 1070s were $450 the 1070 made a lot of sense, but now I think it's pretty poor value when the 1080 is so much better.

[Cry Havoc]

I'm not 13 though so IDGAF about streaming. It sounds crazy to say, but the 1080 is actually pretty good value these days. I'd spend $500 on a 1080 before I'd spend $400 on a 1070. When the good 1080s were $700 and the good 1070s were $450 the 1070 made a lot of sense, but now I think it's pretty poor value when the 1080 is so much better.

Yeah, the 1080 is where it's at and prices are still falling. I've seen the 1070 for $330 on slickdeals, though. Tough not to pull the trigger on that.

lol, I didn't just mean streaming, that was just an example. Rendering or any kind of intensive threading work is all going to benefit a lot from the 1600x. It also looks like it might have more future proofing than the i5 chips too.

[TDMVPDPOY]

roflmao brick size vga? wtf going to put this into their system? and this aint even fkn vega

http://hexus.net/tech/news/graphics/104413-powercolor-rx-580-red-devil-golden-sample-pictured/

[TDMVPDPOY]

Yeah, the 1080 is where it's at and prices are still falling. I've seen the 1070 for $330 on slickdeals, though. Tough not to pull the trigger on that.

lol, I didn't just mean streaming, that was just an example. Rendering or any kind of intensive threading work is all going to benefit a lot from the 1600x. It also looks like it might have more future proofing than the i5 chips too.

1080tis are dropping in prices now...... I'm not spending that much on a vga again cause that part will always be replaceable and upgrade...

going to invest in a +34inch 1440 or 1600 screen, cause that shit will last me a good 10yrs out of it... hopefully i pick up some used 980ti for under 100bucks secondhand

[TDMVPDPOY]

leaked vega SE has a water AIO from amd

http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-vega-8-gb-hbm2-teaser-video-leak/

[Cry Havoc]

Just picked up a Ryzen 5 1600 from Jet.com for $185. Not fucking bad.

New build time!

[baseline bum]

Just picked up a Ryzen 5 1600 from Jet.com for $185. Not fucking bad.

New build time!

Damn that's fucking crazy for that price. I'd take that cpu over an i5-7600k any day.

[TDMVPDPOY]

new g.skill ram out http://www.tomshardware.com/news/gskill-ddr4-4333-ram-16gb-kits,34155.html

speaking of ram/memory, when would hbm2 overtake ddr4/5 as main component? instead of just appearing on vga cards... should be targeted and as a option for those who can afford it instead of ddr4

[Cry Havoc]

Damn that's fucking crazy for that price. I'd take that cpu over an i5-7600k any day.

I'm just going to snipe deals and build a system.

[TDMVPDPOY]

lol bios updating the rx480 to run like rx580 speeds

https://www.kotaku.com.au/2017/04/someone-turned-their-radeon-rx-480-into-an-rx-580/

[TDMVPDPOY]

so vega is to compete with 1080-1080ti

BUT when its released, NVidia is also releasing volta cards....lmao amd marketing dept.. = bunch of fkn clowns again

I wonder whats the price on volta cards...will it slot in between the price range of 1080ti - titanx? or somewhere above titanx?

[baseline bum]

so vega is to compete with 1080-1080ti

BUT when its released, NVidia is also releasing volta cards....lmao amd marketing dept.. = bunch of fkn clowns again

I wonder whats the price on volta cards...will it slot in between the price range of 1080ti - titanx? or somewhere above titanx?

Meh we have no idea what Vega is going to be like, and AMD has roadmapped two versions (Vega 10 and Vega 11). Also that story about Volta in 2H 2017 isn't a very solid source AFAIK. Still the gpu market does look pretty grim for AMD considering they will have ceded the $350+ market entirely to Nvidia for a year by the time Computex comes around next month and since Vega is going to be crazy expensive because of HBM2. I imagine Vega is going to be the same kind of failure Fiji was because of expensive ass HBM1.

I really hope we do see Volta this year though. The GTX 1070 is very overpriced right now after the 1080 dropped to $500. I'm hoping we see something like 1070 level performance in the $250 price bracket with GV106 (eg GeForce 60 series), though I'd guess they'd only release their GV104 (eg GeForce 70 & 80 series) and V100 (eg Tesla) in their first round of Volta.

[TDMVPDPOY]

Meh we have no idea what Vega is going to be like, and AMD has roadmapped two versions (Vega 10 and Vega 11). Also that story about Volta in 2H 2017 isn't a very solid source AFAIK. Still the gpu market does look pretty grim for AMD considering they will have ceded the $350+ market entirely to Nvidia for a year by the time Computex comes around next month and since Vega is going to be crazy expensive because of HBM2. I imagine Vega is going to be the same kind of failure Fiji was because of expensive ass HBM1.

I really hope we do see Volta this year though. The GTX 1070 is very overpriced right now after the 1080 dropped to $500. I'm hoping we see something like 1070 level performance in the $250 price bracket with GV106 (eg GeForce 60 series), though I'd guess they'd only release their GV104 (eg GeForce 70 & 80 series) and V100 (eg Tesla) in their first round of Volta.

was refering to vega11, vega 10 is weakass shit ddr5 crap...

how much ddr5 is needed to be equivalent to 2gb hbm2? or 4gb...

if NVidia drops its prices where it covers the costs of +200 premium for NVidia vga + monitor, then it be a no brainer to purchase NVidia...I don't feel like shelling +100 for gsync screen over fsync monitor...

[Cry Havoc]

Meh we have no idea what Vega is going to be like, and AMD has roadmapped two versions (Vega 10 and Vega 11). Also that story about Volta in 2H 2017 isn't a very solid source AFAIK. Still the gpu market does look pretty grim for AMD considering they will have ceded the $350+ market entirely to Nvidia for a year by the time Computex comes around next month and since Vega is going to be crazy expensive because of HBM2. I imagine Vega is going to be the same kind of failure Fiji was because of expensive ass HBM1.

I really hope we do see Volta this year though. The GTX 1070 is very overpriced right now after the 1080 dropped to $500. I'm hoping we see something like 1070 level performance in the $250 price bracket with GV106 (eg GeForce 60 series), though I'd guess they'd only release their GV104 (eg GeForce 70 & 80 series) and V100 (eg Tesla) in their first round of Volta.

I almost pulled the trigger on a 980ti yesterday for $260.

Vega could easily launch with two cards to compete with the 1070 and 1080. We'll see.

AMD is ok for now, the 570/580 are the best budget cards on the market and easily support 1080p 60fps, which is what the mass majority of gamers are buying for right now. That should hold them over until Vega launches, and Ryzen is selling like crazy right now.

[baseline bum]

I almost pulled the trigger on a 980ti yesterday for $260.


Good you didn't. That card is already two years old and Nvidia doesn't have a great track record with their cards' performance longterm (for instance the GTX 970 has fallen behind the RX 570 now). Plus Maxwell isn't great for DX12.

[Cry Havoc]

Good you didn't. That card is already two years old and Nvidia doesn't have a great track record with their cards' performance longterm (for instance the GTX 970 has fallen behind the RX 570 now). Plus Maxwell isn't great for DX12.

That's exactly why I stayed away. It would have been tougher if mITX mobos were out for Ryzen, but they aren't, so I have some time.

Definitely going either 10xx or Vega.

[TDMVPDPOY]

apparently there is some vega cards benchmark out, but they are underclocked or the low end vega card lineup...

[baseline bum]

CROFL Vega barely beating the 1070

http://i.imgur.com/Z3xZr6m.png

:lol Cry Havoc

Get in here DJR210 and dance on AMD's grave.

[140]

:depressed

[baseline bum]

:depressed

What are you moping about bro? Volta sounds like it'll come out this year.

[DJR210]

Lol all the cool names in the world can't change the yearly result.

[baseline bum]

I was thinking 1080 level performance would be really disappointing for Vega considering the cost of HBM2, but 1070 level performance is a freaking disaster.

[Cry Havoc]

CROFL Vega barely beating the 1070

http://i.imgur.com/Z3xZr6m.png

:lol Cry Havoc

Get in here DJR210 and dance on AMD's grave.

Wtf. You realize that's just one of the Vega chipsets, right? AMD already openly stated they're releasing 2 or 3 versions of Vega. This could be the budget model that's ~$300 at launch.

[Cry Havoc]

BB, you my bro and all but my god you like to reach to proclaim shit that isn't even confirmed yet. :lol

[baseline bum]

Wtf. You realize that's just one of the Vega chipsets, right? AMD already openly stated they're releasing 2 or 3 versions of Vega. This could be the budget model that's ~$300 at launch.

They're going to make a $300-$400 gpu using HBM2? I don't see it man.

[TDMVPDPOY]

why would u waste money and shit on a budget vega? lol amd share price just drop

fck these clowns..

ps. whats with the reviews on yt, it seems like they talk about amd for click bait, then either takes a dump reviewing their products or just mishandling their products like its crap dropping it and shit...cant u get a non bias review

[baseline bum]

That's exactly why I stayed away. It would have been tougher if mITX mobos were out for Ryzen, but they aren't, so I have some time.

Definitely going either 10xx or Vega.

Figured you'd be interested in this


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k5Q9UpIPlU

[illusioNtEk]

After seeing some benchmarks from AMD I must say I'm impressed

Nice job AMD

[baseline bum]

After seeing some benchmarks from AMD I must say I'm impressed

Nice job AMD

I know man, they did the XBox Scorpio.

[Cry Havoc]

Figured you'd be interested in this


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k5Q9UpIPlU

Yep. Waiting for it to go in stock on newegg, but I'm probably going to wait for Vega anyway, so... not in the biggest of rushes.

[baseline bum]

Yep. Waiting for it to go in stock on newegg, but I'm probably going to wait for Vega anyway, so... not in the biggest of rushes.

I mean no way they don't at least demo Vega at Computex in early June and then launch a couple of weeks later, right?

[Cry Havoc]

I mean no way they don't at least demo Vega at Computex in early June and then launch a couple of weeks later, right?

For sure, I'm hearing they're going to demo it earlier than that, even.

[TDMVPDPOY]

another kick the man while his still down

apparently there is short supply of hbm2 memory...launch date with less then 20k units available...
http://www.tweaktown.com/news/57418/amd-radeon-rx-vega-less-20-000-available-launch/index.html

AND here are the specs line of cards whats it aiming at competing with from NVidia
http://www.tweaktown.com/news/57408/amd-radeon-rx-vega-8gb-hbm2-700mhz-1200mhz-gpu-clock/index.html

so the 4/8gb hmb2 version performance slots in between a 1070 and 1080? wtf gtfo, all this builldup for nothing, that card better retail below 1070
a 16gb card vs titanx?

so the benchmarks so far has been prototype and not the final end product with updated drivers....still disappointed though that its below 1080 performance...


ps. they should just get rid lineup of 4gb hbm2 cards, and use that 4 into the +8gb versions...why waste that 4gb unit when u can just add that unit production to the 8gb version when there is a short supply of hbm2 memory in production, wtf is going to buy a 4gb card? when 8gb should be the standard now

[baseline bum]

For sure, I'm hearing they're going to demo it earlier than that, even.

Looks like May 31st

https://videocardz.com/69424/amd-to-hold-a-press-conference-on-may-31st

[leemajors]

I'm gonna upgrade from my i5 2500k to a Ryzen 7 1700x. I haven't upgraded in 7 years.

[baseline bum]

I'm gonna upgrade from my i5 2500k to a Ryzen 7 1700x. I haven't upgraded in 7 years.

Why the 1700x over the 1700?

[leemajors]

Why the 1700x over the 1700?

It was $350, no reason really. My motherboard is on the fritz, it runs Quake Champions fine for the most part, but I am having weird audio issues and haven;t upgraded since 2010.

[baseline bum]

It was $350, no reason really. My motherboard is on the fritz, it runs Quake Champions fine for the most part, but I am having weird audio issues and haven;t upgraded since 2010.

From the reviews I have seen all three of the R7 1700, R7 1700x, and R7 1800x all seem to overclock to 3.9-4.1 GHz, based on the silicon lottery. For a workstation class cpu there is nothing that touches the R7 1700 at $315 IMO if you're willing to overclock. If not the extra $35 for the 400 MHz higher base clock on the 1700x probably makes sense, but I think it doesn't come with a cooler (while the R7 1700 does).

[leemajors]

From the reviews I have seen all three of the R7 1700, R7 1700x, and R7 1800x all seem to overclock to 3.9-4.1 GHz, based on the silicon lottery. For a workstation class cpu there is nothing that touches the R7 1700 at $315 IMO if you're willing to overclock. If not the extra $35 for the 400 MHz higher base clock on the 1700x probably makes sense, but I think it doesn't come with a cooler (while the R7 1700 does).

yeah, i bought a cooler.

[leemajors]

Easy build, and this thing is super quiet. Used the ASUS Prime X370 Pro.

[baseline bum]

For sure, I'm hearing they're going to demo it earlier than that, even.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/05/amd-radeon-rx-vega/

So much for that. Vega Frontier Edition will launch in late June, but that's a compute card and the gaming cards aren't coming until later in the year.

[TDMVPDPOY]

seems like amd vega high end series are targeting clowns with 4k monitors, they said they want to achieve smooth 4k 60fps, but wtf has/gaming on 4k monitors?

[baseline bum]

seems like amd vega high end series are targeting clowns with 4k monitors, they said they want to achieve smooth 4k 60fps, but wtf has/gaming on 4k monitors?

Of course they're targeting 4k. That's what Nvidia's high end cards like the 1080 Ti are built for. If you're playing on a 1440p monitor the GTX 1080 is already a bit overkill.

[Cry Havoc]

Of course they're targeting 4k. That's what Nvidia's high end cards like the 1080 Ti are built for. If you're playing on a 1440p monitor the GTX 1080 is already a bit overkill.

For now. But in 2-3 years you'll need a 1080 to max games at 1440p.

[TDMVPDPOY]

baseline bum Cry Havoc

lol cant even bring vega 1.0 to the market, yet hey are working on vega 2.0 vs volta
http://wccftech.com/amd-working-14nm-vega-2-0-compete-nvidias-volta-2018/

more on vega 1.0 http://www.tweaktown.com/news/57587/amd-change-entire-gpu-game-radeon-rx-vega/index.html

But for the gamers, I think that the tease of HBCC (High Bandwidth Cache Controller) running on Rise of the Tomb Raider and seeing HBCC disabled and what I'm sure is the Radeon RX Vega running the game at 4K at 57.9FPS average, with 13.7FPS minimum. This puts the RX Vega at the speeds of the GTX 1080 11Gbps, but when HBCC is enabled – holy crap, there is a huge change.

AMD's upcoming Radeon RX Vega with HBCC enabled was running ROTT at 76FPS average (up from 57.9FPS without HBCC) but it's the minimum FPS that is where the magic happens: 49.1FPS with HBCC enabled, up from the 13.7FPS without HBCC.

shit that hbcc should just be enable at all times, whats the point of turning it off? its not like its going to consume more power or diminish life time of the card...

but damn without hbcc enable smooth 57.9fps 4k?...enable means x>60fps :D damn mein nigga
now just waiting for the new monitors with fsync2 to be release, and they still havnt talked much about fsync2

[Cry Havoc]

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/05/amd-radeon-rx-vega/

So much for that. Vega Frontier Edition will launch in late June, but that's a compute card and the gaming cards aren't coming until later in the year.

That's false by the way. AMD said that quote was out of context and that the user-level cards will launch in June also.

[baseline bum]

That's false by the way. AMD said that quote was out of context and that the user-level cards will launch in June also.

link? I hope Vega is awesome.

[TDMVPDPOY]

remember when they launch rx480 with limited supply, faggot retailers were gold mining and reselling higher price...what did that do? those who missed out went and bought a NVidia card...

I can sense the same shit repeating with vega cards, 17k-20k units on release...

ppl who couldn't afford the 1080ti, will go buy the ti card if NVidia drops a further 100bucks on it...

[Cry Havoc]

link? I hope Vega is awesome.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0Qz6Mlo7wHn

Skip to around 11:00.

[TDMVPDPOY]

RIP AMD...
lol vega release date 26/27 june

at computex2017, there media conference was a fkn joke...
when they talked and tested vega, it was a load of bs....wants to show 4k smooth gaming by showcasing 2 VEGA cards in a threadripper cpu setup...= fail
wtf would ppl buy 2 cards when they expect 1 would be enough?
why were they testing 2 cards?
why test it on a threadripper cpu system? when that cpu is just overkill for gamers....why not test it on a r5 or r7 system?

trying to hide something?

[baseline bum]

Well Vega looks dead on arrival.

:lol needing two cards to get 60 fps on Prey at 4k
:lol A single GTX 1080 can almost do that, and a single GTX 1080 Ti can easily do that
:lol you can do 60 fps locked at 4k with two GTX 980
:lol Cry Havoc

Get in here DJR210 :lol

[baseline bum]

RIP AMD...
lol vega release date 26/27 june

at computex2017, there media conference was a fkn joke...
when they talked and tested vega, it was a load of bs....wants to show 4k smooth gaming by showcasing 2 VEGA cards in a threadripper cpu setup...= fail
wtf would ppl buy 2 cards when they expect 1 would be enough?
why were they testing 2 cards?
why test it on a threadripper cpu system? when that cpu is just overkill for gamers....why not test it on a r5 or r7 system?

trying to hide something?

Dude that's Vega Frontier Edition launching June 26/27, the workstation card. It's Pat said the gaming card is launching at the end of July (see the 44:30 mark of the video)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCKVWx3le34

[baseline bum]

If AMD needs two Vega cards to run Prey at 60 fps at 4k man I don't see how they make a penny off Vega. Vega is going to be a disaster for them financially. HBM2 is crazy expensive, I mean how are they going to make any money off these when Nvidia is already selling the GTX 1080 for $500 and could easily drop it to $450 to really fuck AMD over. I can't believe all we're going to see is them maybe matching the GTX 1080 fourteen months later while using a memory tech that's going to ensure Vega is going to be significantly more expensive to produce than GP104 is for Nvidia. And then Nvidia already looks to be near getting Volta out there after they demoed the Tesla V100 a few weeks ago.

[TDMVPDPOY]

when they showed the 2 vega cards on the ripper system, did u see the game was stuttering at 4k? lmao

[baseline bum]

when they showed the 2 vega cards on the ripper system, did u see the game was stuttering at 4k? lmao

That wasn't stutter, it was tearing. It happens when you're rendering say 90 fps on a 60 Hz screen.

[TDMVPDPOY]

If AMD needs two Vega cards to run Prey at 60 fps at 4k man I don't see how they make a penny off Vega. Vega is going to be a disaster for them financially. HBM2 is crazy expensive, I mean how are they going to make any money off these when Nvidia is already selling the GTX 1080 for $500 and could easily drop it to $450 to really fuck AMD over. I can't believe all we're going to see is them maybe matching the GTX 1080 fourteen months later while using a memory tech that's going to ensure Vega is going to be significantly more expensive to produce than GP104 is for Nvidia. And then Nvidia already looks to be near getting Volta out there after they demoed the Tesla V100 a few weeks ago.

these fkn mutts didn't even show case the card properly to persuade buyers, no mention or display of fsync2 .....spend 1hr talkin shit about partnerships, while the NVidia conference went for like 2hrs in more detail about their lineup of products..

if NVidia drops the 1080ti another 50bucks, then it makes things interesting especially those who didn't waited and didn't want to pay a premium for NVidia card + monitor setup for that gsync premium option...

I believe the amd batch of hbm2 was late order when NVidia already secured their own supplies b4 amd got to the table....now that NVidia has worked out how ddr6 = hbm2, they didn't go for the hbm2 for volta cards, yet amd still sticking with the expensive route for hbm2 when they should just went with ddr6 with already supplies ready...fail. unless they think the performance opportunity costs they cant achieve ddr6 benchmarks compared to hbm2?

[TDMVPDPOY]

That wasn't stutter, it was tearing. It happens when you're rendering say 90 fps on a 60 Hz screen.

so why didn't fsync2 or fsync1 kicked in to smooth it out?....don't tell me they were using a 4k 60hz panel and not a fsync 4k monitor...

did u also notice they didn't show fps on test bench? pussies

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3199012/components-graphics/the-wait-for-amds-radeon-rx-vega-graphics-cards-continues-for-two-more-months.html

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Performance_Analysis/Prey/4.html
heres a list of single gpu cards at 4k....

why didn't these clowns just show the gamer card instead of the workstation card, makes no fkn sense....

[baseline bum]

so why didn't fsync2 or fsync1 kicked in to smooth it out?....don't tell me they were using a 4k 60hz panel and not a fsync 4k monitor...

did u also notice they didn't show fps on test bench? pussies

Vega is going to be such a fucking disaster. The die size is more than 500 mm^2 and it's using HBM2 and is going to have to compete with a GTX 1080 whose die size is 314 mm^2 and which uses much much cheaper GDDR5X. Even the GP102 gpu in the Titan Xp and GTX 1080 Ti is only 471 mm^2. God a 500 mm^2 die is going to have horrible yields early on, and then HBM2 is already known to have terrible yields. How is this company going to make its loan payments in 2019 and not go bankrupt when Vega looks like it's going to be a big money loss for them. I can't imagine they'll break even on any Vega consumer card based on what we're hearing.

[TDMVPDPOY]

Vega is going to be such a fucking disaster. The die size is more than 500 mm^2 and it's using HBM2 and is going to have to compete with a GTX 1080 whose die size is 314 mm^2 and which uses much much cheaper GDDR5X. Even the GP102 gpu in the Titan Xp and GTX 1080 Ti is only 471 mm^2. God a 500 mm^2 die is going to have horrible yields early on, and then HBM2 is already known to have terrible yields. How is this company going to make its loan payments in 2019 and not go bankrupt when Vega looks like it's going to be a big money loss for them. I can't imagine they'll break even on any Vega consumer card based on what we're hearing.

if the workstation card is already pure shit, u think the gamers card going to be any different in performance? I doubt it give NVidia 1080-1080ti cards any competition, therefor they either stick with t he current price with no discounts...

hence those new NVidia 120hz gsync monitors costs and arm an a leg compared to the 100hz gsync models...

[TDMVPDPOY]

those r5 r7 and threadripper cpus are a beasts...only problem is the stupid ram compatible shit that's stopping me from upgrading my comp....

if they solve that ram memory shit, then there probably be more adopters

speaking of threadripper vs intel new gen cpus...seems like the only difference is amd supporting more pci-e lanes and cheaper price...that's about it..

[TDMVPDPOY]

amd just cut prices on their ryzen cpus across the board 10-20%... not bad if u want a r7-1700 for USD$300bucks

just b4 threadripper and intel new cpus being released, and how old are the r7 cpus? 2-3months since release, not bad...bring on competition


ps.

threadripper high end cpu is 1200 cheaper then the new highest intel chips...wtf intel...would u still buy a threadripper?

[TDMVPDPOY]

r5/r7 vs threadripper

same clock speeds per core
dual ddr vs quad ddr

so tell me, are there actually games out there that maximizes more then 2 cores? let alone benefiting/maximizing whether dual or quad memory? the only benefits so far is just streaming or running some other intensive shit (streaming/rendering) while gaming....

more then 4 cores is just a future proof cpu, but nothing uses more then 2 cores, even the quad core cpus was never maximized...

why they trying to pushed server cpus to become mainstream/enthusiast?

[baseline bum]

r5/r7 vs threadripper

same clock speeds per core
dual ddr vs quad ddr

so tell me, are there actually games out there that maximizes more then 2 cores? let alone benefiting/maximizing whether dual or quad memory? the only benefits so far is just streaming or running some other intensive shit (streaming/rendering) while gaming....

more then 4 cores is just a future proof cpu, but nothing uses more then 2 cores, even the quad core cpus was never maximized...

why they trying to pushed server cpus to become mainstream/enthusiast?

What year do you think this is, 2009? Go buy a dual core cpu without hyperthreading and tell me how well your games run. I know if you play GTA V on a straight dual core you get so much stuttering and the framerate is often in the 20s (I have tested this by disabling two cores and disabling hyperthreading on my Xeon E3-1231v3). Lots of modern games will pin overclocked i5 at near 100% on all cores if you have a decent gpu and run with an unlocked framerate.

[TDMVPDPOY]

What year do you think this is, 2009? Go buy a dual core cpu without hyperthreading and tell me how well your games run. I know if you play GTA V on a straight dual core you get so much stuttering and the framerate is often in the 20s (I have tested this by disabling two cores and disabling hyperthreading on my Xeon E3-1231v3). Lots of modern games will pin overclocked i5 at near 100% on all cores if you have a decent gpu and run with an unlocked framerate.

hey have u been watching some reviews of the x299 platform? those reviewers are t aking a dump on intel atm about its latest platform...rushing it out just to tackle amd, and they wont be released till next year or someshit....

[baseline bum]

hey have u been watching some reviews of the x299 platform? those reviewers are t aking a dump on intel atm about its latest platform...rushing it out just to tackle amd, and they wont be released till next year or someshit....

Yeah X299 is stupid for gaming unless Skylake-X has a big gain in IPC (which I can't see happening, why would it when it's Skylake?), because games are optimized for the weak octacore Jaguar cpus in the PS4/XBone. But that's why no recent game runs worth a shit on a straight dual core: because if devs optimized AAA games towards dual cores they'd never run on PS4 or XBone since those Jaguar cpus have awful IPC and really low clockspeeds. But that's the reason quadcore i7 have outperformed quadcore i5 in games since 2014 or so: the hyperthreading on quadcore i7 is more than enough to make up for the core count deficiency in AAA games because the Jaguar octacores are so weak.

[TDMVPDPOY]

seems like amd video cards are the preferred cards to horde to use in mining systems, dunno why... ethereum or digital currency mining...

the whole setup doesn't make sense to me as I continue to read into it and watch yt clips, I thought digital currency has no nominal value since the international monetary banks don't recognize a currency they don't control/trade .... easy money mining compared to those LAN games cafes farming rare items to resell in games...

but it looks like they be hording up amd cards again when its release again....

[TDMVPDPOY]

lol apple jumping on vega for its next line of apple imac pros, still using intel xeon cpus

https://www.theverge.com/2017/6/5/15741540/apple-imac-pro-announced-price-specs-release-date-wwdc-2017

specs of the vega card in the imac pro http://wccftech.com/amd-debuts-radeon-pro-vega-unveils-detailed-die-shot-22-tflops-400gbs-8-16-gb-hbm2/

do u guys think apple made the correct choice of getting out of the cpu market and using intels...should amd follow suit and quit vga production and stick to cpu production only?

hence zen2 will be backward compatible with am4 socket boards....good continuity from amd

[TDMVPDPOY]

mad shit for competition from amd

rx vega consumer gaming cards > 1080, not bad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ROpkIwaCC4

as for the frontier edition for the professionals sector, lmao why is there a +500bucks difference from the air cool version vs the water cool version...



now I'm just waiting for the new fsync2 monitors...what sort of price ppl should be expecting

[baseline bum]

Looks like the i7-7440X on X299 may end up the king of the hill gaming cpu. I saw a review where dude had a delidded one running at 5.3 GHz on I think a cheap Corsair AIO liquid cooler.

[baseline bum]

mad shit for competition from amd

rx vega consumer gaming cards > 1080, not bad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ROpkIwaCC4

as for the frontier edition for the professionals sector, lmao why is there a +500bucks difference from the air cool version vs the water cool version...



now I'm just waiting for the new fsync2 monitors...what sort of price ppl should be expecting

It's horrific news if true that Vega with its 500 mm^2 die and expensive HBM2 can only compete with a one year old GTX 1080 which uses a much smaller 314 mm^2 die. And Nvidia is producing an 815 mm^2 Volta chip on a 12 nm process (V100). Man if they put out a GTX 2080 at half that die size this year Vega might be stuck trying to compete with $400 GTX 2070. That is not a good result at all for AMD. They need to be beating the GTX 1080 Ti considering Vega is likely more expensive to produce than the GP102 chip in the GTX 1080 Ti and the two Pascal Titans.

[TDMVPDPOY]

It's horrific news if true that Vega with its 500 mm^2 die and expensive HBM2 can only compete with a one year old GTX 1080 which uses a much smaller 314 mm^2 die. And Nvidia is producing an 815 mm^2 Volta chip on a 12 nm process (V100). Man if they put out a GTX 2080 at half that die size this year Vega might be stuck trying to compete with $400 GTX 2070. That is not a good result at all for AMD. They need to be beating the GTX 1080 Ti considering Vega is likely more expensive to produce than the GP102 chip in the GTX 1080 Ti and the two Pascal Titans.

well the rx400 and rx500 series don't compete against +1070 cards or higher...
don't think amd had any plans during that 1yr gap to compete with NVidia, and now they have an answer 1yr later, even with volta releasing, those current +1080 ned to drop at leasts +100-150bucks across its line to kill off amd vega cards...but then again even with the price drop, u still be hurt at ur pockets if ur upgrading ur monitor to a gsync model

go vega if u want fsync2 and fsync2 monitors coming out, dunno if fsync2 monitors is any better then current gen gsync monitors, but its an improvement over fsync1

[baseline bum]

well the rx400 and rx500 series don't compete against +1070 cards or higher...
don't think amd had any plans during that 1yr gap to compete with NVidia, and now they have an answer 1yr later, even with volta releasing, those current +1080 ned to drop at leasts +100-150bucks across its line to kill off amd vega cards...but then again even with the price drop, u still be hurt at ur pockets if ur upgrading ur monitor to a gsync model

go vega if u want fsync2 and fsync2 monitors coming out, dunno if fsync2 monitors is any better then current gen gsync monitors, but its an improvement over fsync1

What do you think the GTX 2070 is going to be? It's probably going to be a little below the 1080 Ti for $400, maybe even $350, based on their past strategy.

[baseline bum]

nm

[baseline bum]

:lol $1000 Vega Frontier Edition getting beat by the $500 GTX 1080. This is pathetic when Gamers Nexus measured the die to be 500-520 mm^2 (GTX 1080 is only 314 mm^2) :lol
:lol Cry Havoc
:lol no wonder they didn't show this piece of shit at Computex
:lol Get in here DJR210 and dance on AMD's grave some more

https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/Radeon-Vega-Frontier-Edition-16GB-Air-Cooled-Review

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https://www.pcper.com/files/review/2017-06-30/Fallout4_3840x2160_FRAPSFPS.png

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[DJR210]

It's not even fun shitting on AMD products anymore.. I'm saddened for them

[Cry Havoc]

:lol $1000 Vega Frontier Edition getting beat by the $500 GTX 1080. This is pathetic when Gamers Nexus measured the die to be 500-520 mm^2 (GTX 1080 is only 314 mm^2) :lol
:lol Cry Havoc
:lol no wonder they didn't show this piece of shit at Computex
:lol Get in here DJR210 and dance on AMD's grave some more

https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/Radeon-Vega-Frontier-Edition-16GB-Air-Cooled-Review

https://www.pcper.com/files/review/2017-06-30/DirtRally_3840x2160_FRAPSFPS.png

https://www.pcper.com/files/review/2017-06-30/Fallout4_3840x2160_FRAPSFPS.png

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https://www.pcper.com/files/review/2017-06-30/Hitman_3840x2160_FRAPSFPS.png

https://www.pcper.com/files/review/2017-06-30/RoTRDX12_3840x2160_FRAPSFPS_0.png

https://www.pcper.com/files/review/2017-06-30/Witcher3_3840x2160_FRAPSFPS.png

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Wtf? You realize it's not meant to be a gaming card, right?

[baseline bum]

Wtf? You realize it's not meant to be a gaming card, right?

It's their Titan X equivalent. The real professional cards are the FirePros. Maybe they can up clocks enough to inch past the 1080 but that shit is pathetic on a 484 mm^2 die (confirmed by Raja Kaduri) when Nvidia is on a 314mm^2 die for that level of performance.

[baseline bum]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yudueaG5_rE

[Cry Havoc]

It's their Titan X equivalent. The real professional cards are the FirePros. Maybe they can up clocks enough to inch past the 1080 but that shit is pathetic on a 484 mm^2 die (confirmed by Raja Kaduri) when Nvidia is on a 314mm^2 die for that level of performance.

It's a production card meant for professional use. Not for gaming.

The Quadro wasn't a gaming card, either.

[baseline bum]

Holy fuck, Gamers Nexus showed you can make Vega outperform the GTX 1080 if you watercool, but it uses 400 fucking watts to get there. :lmao

:lol the 1080 is a 180W card and the 1080 Ti is a 250W card :lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbS7c2Een8o

Get in here DJR210, Cry Havoc, ElNono

:lmao 400W card

[TDMVPDPOY]

gamers nexus and some other clowns who go deeper into reviewing products then the usual way, dunno why they have less subscriptions...

then there are wankers who make funni faces and noises reviewing products yet are popular...dunno why, but fck them clowns are usually late on releasing tech news, and if u watch them popular clowns who get paid advertising for reviewing products, have u notice the way they handle some of the products during reviews whether its with care or accidentally dropping a competitor item off the table or someshit...

anyway if ur investing in high end card, u shouldn't be complaining about how much watt it uses or the electricity bills heading your way...

[ElNono]

Holy fuck, Gamers Nexus showed you can make Vega outperform the GTX 1080 if you watercool, but it uses 400 fucking watts to get there. :lmao

:lol the 1080 is a 180W card and the 1080 Ti is a 250W card :lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbS7c2Een8o

Get in here DJR210, Cry Havoc, ElNono

:lmao 400W card

should wash your laundry too for that kinda wattage, IMO

[baseline bum]

should wash your laundry too for that kinda wattage, IMO

Should cool my house too tbh

[DJR210]

Holy fuck, Gamers Nexus showed you can make Vega outperform the GTX 1080 if you watercool, but it uses 400 fucking watts to get there. :lmao

:lol the 1080 is a 180W card and the 1080 Ti is a 250W card :lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbS7c2Een8o

Get in here DJR210, Cry Havoc, ElNono

:lmao 400W card

Gid damn them 1000W overkill PS purchases looking good for AMD users

[TDMVPDPOY]

man them r7 cpus are not bad if ur streaming and gaming same time

check out these bench marks 1800x vs 7700k vs 7820x .... if ur not multitasking streaming+gaming then the amd chip fails, but if u do, its better then the 7700k ...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ypELk3jl48

[baseline bum]

So AMD did an event promoting Vega in Budapest where they had people play Battlefield 1 on an RX Vega + FreeSync combo and a GTX 1080 + GSync combo to see if anyone could tell them apart. Sad news that a 484 mm^2 gpu with HBM2 looks to only be on par with a 314 mm^2 GTX 1080 more than a year later. Especially after MSI let it slip that RX Vega will be a 300W card while the GTX 1080 is only 180W.

[TDMVPDPOY]

So AMD did an event promoting Vega in Budapest where they had people play Battlefield 1 on an RX Vega + FreeSync combo and a GTX 1080 + GSync combo to see if anyone could tell them apart. Sad news that a 484 mm^2 gpu with HBM2 looks to only be on par with a 314 mm^2 GTX 1080 more than a year later. Especially after MSI let it slip that RX Vega will be a 300W card while the GTX 1080 is only 180W.

if ur already spending a lot on a high end setup, who cares what gpu or cpu suck how many watts...electricity bills should be ur last concern or no concern at all...

[baseline bum]

if ur already spending a lot on a high end setup, who cares what gpu or cpu suck how many watts...electricity bills should be ur last concern or no concern at all...

The big concern is that AMD can't scale Vega up to anything better. When Nvidia launched the GTX 1080 with such strong performance at 180W you knew they'd have something amazing coming at 250W later on, eg the Titan X Pascal, GTX 1080 Ti, and Titan Xp. AMD has nowhere to go with Vega. The die is already huge and the power consumption is through the roof.

[TDMVPDPOY]

latest benchmarks out, its faster then a stock 1080, 5% within or better then those overclock 1080 cards...now if it comes in at 100-150bucks cheaper then those oc 1080cards....?

[baseline bum]

latest benchmarks out, its faster then a stock 1080, 5% within or better then those overclock 1080 cards...now if it comes in at 100-150bucks cheaper then those oc 1080cards....?

Those latest benchmarks look like they were done at the kind of clockspeeds that were making Vega FE use 400W. Not impressive at all on a 484mm^2 die.

[baseline bum]

RX Vega looks to be such a piece of shit they're not even going to livestream the launch of it. :lmao

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[TDMVPDPOY]

why r3 vs r5 oc at same speeds

the oc r3 cant handle a 1070+ .. seems like 1050ti is max it can handle b4 it bottlenecks the gpu...
but the r5 can handle 1080ti no problems

r3 looks like a cheap good sub 500bucks build for those entry or low budget builds, but aren't u better off going for the intel g4560 cpu if u can still grab ur hands on one

[TDMVPDPOY]

rx vega benchmarks are out on yt fellas...

[baseline bum]

rx vega benchmarks are out on yt fellas...

I told you the card was shit, that is wasn't going to be much different from the disappointing Vega FE

https://tpucdn.com/reviews/AMD/Radeon_RX_Vega_64/images/perfrel_2560_1440.png

$500 to get beat out by a $500 reference GTX 1080 15 months later at about 65% higher power consumption. :lmao

What a piece of shit. Get in here DJR210 and dance on AMD's grave. :lol

[TDMVPDPOY]

I'm not concern with the gpu wattage, if ur investing in a high end system dunno why u complaining about power bills, that should be ur less concern...

but anyway dunno some clowns on yt are benchtesting with reference cards, when they should be using the overclocked 3rd party cards at current price point, u be stupid to be buying a reference card...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AL5oNxkQRHA this guy did testing with 3rd party 1070 card which is overclocked vs vega56 and 56oc...
hardwareunbox also did some testing, he did with reference cards with 25 games at difference resolutions like 1080/1440/4k ... once again dunno why he used a 1070 reference card when its slower then a overclocked 1070 3rd party card...

still vega is running on optimized drivers which isn't even matured yet, give it 1-2months and see if they can increase the gap in performance...

check out this clowns video, overclocked and tweaked bios...19% gain over stock

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PftkOaKfik

[DJR210]

AMD should pony up the cash and steal Nvidia's engineers.. Only way they're gonna ever take the lead