Most overrated soccer nation ever?

[apalisoc_9]

In your opinion, what is the most overrated soccer country in the world.

[NASpurs]

Overrated national team? Overrated league? Overrated players from country?

[NASpurs]

:lol England, Brazil, Mexico, Argentina, Spain NT, Colombia NT

[dunkman]

Would say England. The last good showing was in 1990 (4-th place), I think the team even failed to qualify for a recent WC's and uses foreign managers, which no other WC contender ever does. Since Manchester United, Liverpool and Chelsea have won a CL recently, one would expect more from the NT.

[ElNono]

England hands down... they always get hyped up, then crash and burn... invented the game to boot, and they suck at it...

[DAF86]

England, not even a debate, tbh.

[Brazil]

England it is... they are still put in the contenders, favorites, big names of each internation competition and ends up with a poor showing

[apalisoc_9]

England is not even a tier 2 world team. :lol

[lefty]

England it is... they are still put in the contenders, favorites, big names of each internation competition and ends up with a poor showing
Only by English and North American medias

[NASpurs]

Only by English and North American medias

I agree with that, that's why I'm changing my answer to Brazil.Brazil is overrated by the world while the English speaking part of the world overrates England. Just like the Spanish speaking world outside of South America and Mexicans themselves overrate Mexico. Colombia is in the same boat as Belgium in that they're up and coming teams but haven't done shit to warrant all the hype. Spain and the Spanish people are living in the recent past. Argentina are underachievers which kind of falls in line with them being overrated to me.

JMHO.

[lefty]

I agree with that, that's why I'm changing my answer to Brazil.Brazil is overrated by the world while the English speaking part of the world overrates England. Just like the Spanish speaking world outside of South America and Mexicans themselves overrate Mexico. Colombia is in the same boat as Belgium in that they're up and coming teams but haven't done shit to warrant all the hype. Spain and the Spanish people are living in the recent past. Argentina are underachievers which kind of falls in line with them being overrated to me.

JMHO.

The Brazil NT is meh right now, but overall I don't think Brazil is overrated : 4 WC's and have produced some of the finest players ever


Argentina are underachieving because of that phaggot Mess; but they were underachievers in the 80s decade

They were not favorite in 86 - but they still won because Diego has that Alpha gene Messi doesn't have - and they still reached the 90 WC Final while looking like shit

[NASpurs]

The Brazil NT is meh right now, but overall I don't think Brazil is overrated : 4 WC's and have produced some of the finest players ever


Argentina are underachieving because of that phaggot Mess; but they were underachievers in the 80s decade

They were not favorite in 86 - but they still won because Diego has that Alpha gene Messi doesn't have - and they still reached the 90 WC Final while looking like shit

But now you're talking about history and that would go to England easily. So is OP taking about history or most overrated teams right now? Everyone outside the English speaking world knows England is shit, so who would be the most overrated team right now?

[ElNono]

But now you're talking about history and that would go to England easily. So is OP taking about history or most overrated teams right now? Everyone outside the English speaking world knows England is shit, so who would be the most overrated team right now?

I would've put Argentina there, easily, if they didn't make it to the WC and Copa America finals... looking at the FIFA rankings:

1 Argentina 1532.00
2 Belgium 1364.00
3 Chile 1353.00
4 Colombia 1337.00

Colombia is pretty overrated, tbh, they had a good generation of players and a solid coach, but AFAIK, they also have crashed and burned (or killed one of their players, tbh)...

[resistanze]

England used to be overrated, now they're just meh. A lot of young talent that won't do much, and if they do, it'll be a surprise.

[DAF86]

I agree with that, that's why I'm changing my answer to Brazil.Brazil is overrated by the world while the English speaking part of the world overrates England. Just like the Spanish speaking world outside of South America and Mexicans themselves overrate Mexico. Colombia is in the same boat as Belgium in that they're up and coming teams but haven't done shit to warrant all the hype. Spain and the Spanish people are living in the recent past. Argentina are underachievers which kind of falls in line with them being overrated to me.

JMHO.

How can the nation with the most WC wins in history be the most overrated? :lol

Even with this generation, which is probaly the worst of all the Brazlian generations, they still got to the fucking semis of the WC (they got embarrassed in it, but still :lol).

Argentina is the second nation with the most amount of silverware (behind Uruguay). If you count club play, they are by far the winningest nation in football. That's not being overrated or an underachiever, tbh.

[DAF86]

But now you're talking about history and that would go to England easily. So is OP taking about history or most overrated teams right now? Everyone outside the English speaking world knows England is shit, so who would be the most overrated team right now?

I think the OP meant in history.

[NASpurs]

How can the nation with the most WC wins in history be the most overrated? :lolEven with this generation, which is probaly the worst of all the Brazlian generations, they still got to the fucking semis of the WC (they got embarrassed in it, but still :lol).Argentina is the second nation with the most amount of silverware (behind Uruguay). If you count club play, they are by far the winningest nation in football. That's not being overrated or an underachiever, tbh.
I think the OP meant in history.:lol I was posting on the phone and the "ever" part in the subject title was cut off, plus I just knee-jerked straight into a post (various times :lol).Now that the thread title makes more sense without me jumping into a post and reading the title, England is number one.I think a better question would be, who's overrated as fuck right now...

[TheGreatYacht]

USMNT

[lefty]

Argentina is the second nation with the most amount of silverware

No thanks to Messi

[DAF86]

No thanks to Messi

gnsf :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

No thanks to Messi
:lmao

[Canyonero]

England
Mexico
Nigeria

[urunobili]

Spain no question. They're run to the WC included a penalty draw with Paraguay, 1-0 bores and an OT fluke goal. After that they got cocky and started moving the ball left and right and thought they were legend. Never bought the hype TBH

[lefty]

That 2010 WC was boring as fuck

You can't argue with the results, but yeah Spain was a snooze machine despite all their talent

Aragones was a racist, but at least Spain was watchable when he was the coach

[NASpurs]

Yeah Spain has to be up there, they had a good four year from 2008-2012 and just like a fart in the wind, they're gone. They have to be #2 behind England at least and if you look at their Wiki in what positions they placed in the World Cups and Euros, it's pretty fucking sad from such a big football country.

[DAF86]

Yep, Spain in second place is probably a good call. Getting past the quarters of a WC just once in history is embarrassing for a suppossed big football nation.

[DAF86]

Although their club success is second to none (and by a wide margin) in Europe, tbh.

[lefty]

Only Euro nation to win Euro WC and Euro; that's HUGE

Also only team to win B2B Euros, but I could be wrong, too lazy to check lol

[Brazil]

I don't see Spain as overrated tbh... everybody is seeing they had an amazing generation that now is done and they will probably come back to their old self (marginal) for a while before a new one pop up. On that, Spain is quite similar to France except France had 3 generations, an early one (kopa, fontaine) but with no major titles, the 80's with Platoch and the 00s with Zidane, Spain had really only one so far.

I agree regarding England, it is overrated mainly in Europe. In France they continue to put them on teams to watch or dark horse shit.

Colombia is a good one tbh

In historical context I stand by England tho and as of today I don't think Argentina is overrated even though I understand why you could have this pov but for me when you have the best player in the world by a mile difficult to not consider them as a force

[Blizzardwizard]

In terms of clubs - Italy, Serie A.

International wise - Everyone knows England are shit, so I don't see how they qualify as overrated. Argentina in the Missi era are my pick.

[Canyonero]

:cry:cry stop saying England

[TheGreatYacht]

Argentina in the Missi era are my pick.
Hard to argue with that, tbh..

[Brazil]

:cry:cry stop saying England

:lol

[Blizzardwizard]

Hard to argue with that, tbh..

:bobo


Missi :lol

[lefty]

Hard to argue with that, tbh..

Agreed

[Phenomanul]

How can Mexico be overrated by anyone anyhow? They've always been considered a 2nd Tier Team... I'd say ranked anywhere from 10-20 at any given point during the past 3 decades... They've made it to the round of 16 at every world cup Since 1986 (not counting the 1990 World Cup where the NT was disqualified from participating due to unsanctioned misgivings in the U19 ranks - robbing Mexico's greatest player EVER a chance to play during the zenith of his career [Hugo Sanchez]).

"Sure", people say "they always qualify from a less difficult confederation" - but the fact of the matter is when they match up against the rest of the world at the world's largest stage - they at least prove their 2nd Tier mettle... They could have advanced higher in some of those tournaments but fate always pit them against their daddy (Argentina) who has knocked them out in 2 of the last 3 world cup tournaments.

[dunkman]

I would agree also about Argentina in the era they have Messi. He's arguably one of a kind talent, Argentina is constantly rated top 3 in FIFA rankings, the team has had some quite good coaches, they had huge success at younger cotegories (which always translates in success later), yet wasn't able to win a Copa América, much less a WC.

That being said, being #2 at the 2014 WC in Brazil was a strong showing and the team could still win something with Messi in his prime.

[TheGreatYacht]

I would agree also about Argentina in the era they have Messi. He's arguably one of a kind talent, Argentina is constantly rated top 3 in FIFA rankings, the team has had some quite good coaches, they had huge success at younger cotegories (which always translates in success later), yet wasn't able to win a Copa América, much less a WC.

That being said, being #2 at the 2014 WC in Brazil was a strong showing and the team could still win something with Messi in his prime.
Argentina will win something, alright

A participation ribbon

[Canyonero]

Mejicou should know about those

[spursistan]

Most overrated: England...serial overyphed under-performers..they are not even close-but-no-cigar NT team (that would be Holland), they never even get there..QF/R16 fodder...they even cheated their way to their last and only big title 50 years ago :lol...

Most Underrated: Italy..4 WCs/2 finals 1 Euro/2 finals while barely fielding any transcendent talent (they didn't win shit in the Maldini and Baggio era) ...Azzuri are always a pain in the ass to get through because of elite defense and overall superior tactical discipline..you look at majority of Italy's failures before 2010, they either succumb in Extra Time OR penalties..

[ElNono]

I would agree also about Argentina in the era they have Messi. He's arguably one of a kind talent, Argentina is constantly rated top 3 in FIFA rankings, the team has had some quite good coaches, they had huge success at younger cotegories (which always translates in success later), yet wasn't able to win a Copa América, much less a WC.

That being said, being #2 at the 2014 WC in Brazil was a strong showing and the team could still win something with Messi in his prime.

Argentina hasn't had a good defense in ages, and that always been the weak spot. That's actually something that changed in the 14 WC, and why they got far, but I still don't see a generation of good defenders there.

They aren't a team like the late 90's, early 2000 Brazil that could score 4 goals and get away with overrated defenders.

[Canyonero]

Argentina hasn't had a good defense in ages, and that always been the weak spot. That's actually something that changed in the 14 WC, and why they got far, but I still don't see a generation of good defenders there.

They aren't a team like the late 90's, early 2000 Brazil that could score 4 goals and get away with overrated defenders.

Argentina needs to have blocks of players sharing the same clubs so niggas don't have to see each other only 5/6 times a year. Germany has Bayern and Dortmund, Spain had Barcelona and RM, Italy had Juventus.

[Venti Quattro]

We will win the Euros motherfuckers

[spursistan]

We will win the Euros motherfuckers
sounds familiar :lol

[Venti Quattro]

sounds familiar :lol

It's coming home

[Blizzardwizard]

ENGLAND AND VARDY WILL WIN.

YOU WILL SEE.

[lefty]

:lmao Jack Wheelchair going to the Euros

Venti Quattro resistanze NASpurs

[Venti Quattro]

:lmao Jack Wheelchair going to the Euros

Venti Quattro resistanze NASpurs

If he doesn't shit the bed then he can play in the Euros

Final cuts for me will be Rashford, Delph and :lol Rooney

What about you cunt Blizzardwizard

[Blizzardwizard]

If he doesn't shit the bed then he can play in the Euros

Final cuts for me will be Rashford, Delph and :lol Rooney

What about you cunt Blizzardwizard (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=42696)

Go fuck yourself.

[resistanze]

:lmao Jack Wheelchair going to the Euros

Venti Quattro resistanze NASpurs

Amazing. lol England

[Venti Quattro]

Go fuck yourself.

:lol Sharks

:lmao Wigan

But Wigan-a win the Euros mate :cry :cry

[TDMVPDPOY]

england is a bunch of cucks

netherlands has the best clowns on paper but cant play as a team

china, 1.3b gooks and u telling me u cant find 11 good kents to qualify? hosting wc to automatic qualify lol

[apalisoc_9]

england is a bunch of cucks

netherlands has the best clowns on paper but cant play as a team

china, 1.3b gooks and u telling me u cant find 11 good kents to qualify? hosting wc to automatic qualify lol

China barely even qualified to Asias third round qualifiers :lol..

They are going be murdered by shitty teams like Australia, UAE,Japan and Saudi Arabia. They are like the sure three point team. :lol

[140]

The Brazil NT is meh right now, but overall I don't think Brazil is overrated : 4 WC's and have produced some of the finest players ever

5 WCs tbh son

[140]

china, 1.3b gooks and u telling me u cant find 11 good kents to qualify? hosting wc to automatic qualify lol

:lol

[Canyonero]

China went to a WC once and lost all their matches.

[TheGreatYacht]

How come no one talks about North Korea? They've really fallen off the map after they won the 2010 World Cup, tbh..

[apalisoc_9]

The US of gay has some overrated talents tbh. Cohessive team but very limited in talent. Probably worst than a top 4 asian team talent wise.

[Kawhitstorm]

Most overrated: England...serial overyphed under-performers..they are not even close-but-no-cigar NT team (that would be Holland), they never even get there..QF/R16 fodder...they even cheated their way to their last and only big title 50 years ago :lol...

England is the equivalent of what ManUre has been in the post-Fergie era.:lol

Most Underrated: Italy..4 WCs/2 finals 1 Euro/2 finals while barely fielding any transcendent talent (they didn't win shit in the Maldini and Baggio era) ...Azzuri are always a pain in the ass to get through because of elite defense and overall superior tactical discipline..you look at majority of Italy's failures before 2010, they either succumb in Extra Time OR penalties..

Atleti is the team that reminds me of the Azzuri, it's not by coincidence since Simeone was a Seria A star.:lol

[spursistan]

Bump..

:lmao England not eeeeeeeeeeeeeeven close..

These fuckers invented the thing and should have stayed ring-less but they cheated their way to 1966 WC..

ENG has only made 2 Semifinals at WC (1990) and Euro (1996) in 50 years :lol

[spursistan]

It's coming home
:lol

[elemento]

Say whatever you want about the Argies and their "mufa" lucky lately but at least they're reaching the Finals. They've been producing elite talent for decades, they're always winning u17 or u20 stuff and they have 2 WC titles and 5 finals.

England doesn't win shit @ any age, their talent is always overrated as fuck, they're always favorites every fucking tournament and never get even close to win something since I was born. Last shit I remember from them was young Dinho taking a shit on that mustache GK that looked like a porn actor.

[Canyonero]

Say whatever you want about the Argies and their "mufa" lucky lately but at least they're reaching the Finals. They've been producing elite talent for decades, they're always winning u17 or u20 stuff and they have 2 WC titles and 5 finals.

England doesn't win shit @ any age, their talent is always overrated as fuck, they're always favorites every fucking tournament and never get even close to win something since I was born. Last shit I remember from them was young Dinho taking a shit on that mustache GK that looked like a porn actor.

David Hombredelmar?

[elemento]

David Hombredelmar?


:bobo

[spursistan]

Say whatever you want about the Argies and their "mufa" lucky lately but at least they're reaching the Finals. They've been producing elite talent for decades, they're always winning u17 or u20 stuff and they have 2 WC titles and 5 finals.

England doesn't win shit @ any age, their talent is always overrated as fuck, they're always favorites every fucking tournament and never get even close to win something since I was born. Last shit I remember from them was young Dinho taking a shit on that mustache GK that looked like a porn actor.

Tiny Portugal produced better talent in the last 50 years..England have been nothing more than a 2nd (or even 3rd) tier NT in the world since 1990..

[resistanze]

England used to be overrated, now they're just meh. A lot of young talent that won't do much, and if they do, it'll be a surprise.

I stand by my comment.

[Venti Quattro]

:lol

They're coming home :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry

[TDMVPDPOY]

i dont think ive mention the chinese and indian curries in this thread, 1.1b+ each yet cant find 10 fkn mutts to kick a ball?

[lefty]

i dont think ive mention the chinese and indian curries in this thread, 1.1b+ each yet cant find 10 fkn mutts to kick a ball?

:lol wtf

[Venti Quattro]

Shout out to Joe Hart for being a useless cunt. Just focus on your Head and Shoulders commercials, faggot

[TDMVPDPOY]

remember in the 90s when people said if only england had a skilled left wing player they go places... lol cant get giggs, now with bale

dunno why england still selects and builds a team around that shit kent rooney, who had done jackshit for manuted last few years, clown is declining and his game sucks monkey balls...

[dfens]

They're coming home :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry :cry

we'll win in russia :cry:cry:cry:cry:cry

[140]

i dont think ive mention the chinese and indian curries in this thread, 1.1b+ each yet cant find 10 fkn mutts to kick a ball?

:lol

[pgardn]

Bump..

:lmao England not eeeeeeeeeeeeeeven close..

These fuckers invented the thing and should have stayed ring-less but they cheated their way to 1966 WC..

ENG has only made 2 Semifinals at WC (1990) and Euro (1996) in 50 years :lol

BS

They are not overrated by their own. Real English fans of the National team are full of dread everytime they play in international tournaments. They have to be one of the most pessimistic fan bases of any Nation. The drunks that go to the games to party and fight are not fans, but are presented as such. In fact today's England, as a country, is unique, IMO. They constantly denigrate themselves, especially compared to US and Russian citizens.

[140]

He said


BS

They are not overrated by their own. Real English fans of the National team are full of dread everytime they play in international tournaments. They have to be one of the most pessimistic fan bases of any Nation. The drunks that go to the games to party and fight are not fans, but are presented as such. In fact today's England, as a country, is unique, IMO. They constantly denigrate themselves, especially compared to US and Russian citizens.

:lol

[dfens]

BS

They are not overrated by their own. Real English fans of the National team are full of dread everytime they play in international tournaments. They have to be one of the most pessimistic fan bases of any Nation. The drunks that go to the games to party and fight are not fans, but are presented as such. In fact today's England, as a country, is unique, IMO. They constantly denigrate themselves, especially compared to US and Russian citizens.

don't worry son UKIP will turn england to engelland once more :cry:cry:cry:cry













































cucked by iceland :lmao:lmao

[lefty]

Algeria is the most overrated soccer nation ever tbh

Everytime I expect them to win the WC

Everytime they fail




SMH

[pgardn]

don't worry son UKIP will turn england to engelland once more :cry:cry:cry:cry













































cucked by iceland :lmao:lmao

Actually I think Iceland just flat out beat a team that was pathetically disjointed. Even though they tried to pick a more offensive minded team vs. the defensive minded old "John Terry" teams.

It did not work.

Watching a team like Italy play some absolutely outstanding football ( with a self described weak team) shows just how incredibly incapable England was of forming a cohesive unit.

[pgardn]

He said



:lol

No actually I did not say it, I typed it, but whatever.
I know the fan base.
If you know differently... well...Ahhh...you don't.

[Brazil]

^he is laughing at the today's tbh like today'sNBA

[dfens]

Actually I think Iceland just flat out beat a team that was pathetically disjointed. Even though they tried to pick a more offensive minded team vs. the defensive minded old "John Terry" teams.

It did not work.

Watching a team like Italy play some absolutely outstanding football ( with a self described weak team) shows just how incredibly incapable England was of forming a cohesive unit.

son anyway you put it's downright offensive for a team like england to lose a knockout game to fucking iceland, they couldn't even cross a fucking ball in the box, that was the MOST PATHETIC display of football that I have EVER seen in 35+ years of watching. It's not about tactics or disjointed squads or quality football ... you put 11 random players from 1st division clubs and they shouldn't lose to iceland from pride alone.

What a nation of cucks tbh.

[pgardn]

son anyway you put it's downright offensive for a team like england to lose a knockout game to fucking iceland, they couldn't even cross a fucking ball in the box, that was the MOST PATHETIC display of football that I have EVER seen in 35+ years of watching. It's not about tactics or disjointed squads or quality football ... you put 11 random players from 1st division clubs and they shouldn't lose to iceland from pride alone.

What a nation of cucks tbh.

Coming from a Nazi...

And you Fckn want to move to Argentina? Hilarious. Just like the old group.
The most pathetic display you EVER seen? You don't watch much football. It was horrendous but 35 years and you can't find a worse display...you suck at watching football.

A nation of chuks explains it all... Good stuff Mr. Football.

Could it be that thIs is the same nation of chucks that rammed a retaliatory ass whiping to Germany when they firebombed the holy fck out of mighty Germany. Dresden on your mind?

[Brazil]

^dfens pouring dat salt in an open wound tbh

[pgardn]

^dfens pouring dat salt in an open wound tbh

Ouch.

Im hurtin...

But I'm not English. I come from the country that thinks they run the world.

[pgardn]

^he is laughing at the today's tbh like today'sNBA

k?

[140]

^dfens pouring dat salt in an open wound tbh

[dfens]

I bandwagon england because they got the best league in the world :cry:cry:cry.

tbh I have NEVER seen a more pathetic display : not 7-1, not 7-0 mexico, nothing is worse. The country that invented football lost to a team of fucking plumbers, video assistants, bouncers and faggots led by a fucking dentist. Not even hollywood could've written that, that's so insane that not even kids joke like that. And it came exactly when england was making itself the joke of europe by quitting eu, with many a englishman being sad that some fucking pole/paki/terrorist nigga was ass fucking his wife, probably because nobody could stomach her one thousand years of inbreeding face. What a nation of cucks. What. A. Time. TBH. Cry me a fucking river. :cry:cry:cry

[Canyonero]

dfens

I have a room for you when you decide to come to Argieland :toast

[dfens]

Coming from a Nazi...

And you Fckn want to move to Argentina? Hilarious. Just like the old group.
The most pathetic display you EVER seen? You don't watch much football. It was horrendous but 35 years and you can't find a worse display...you suck at watching football.

A nation of chuks explains it all... Good stuff Mr. Football.

Could it be that thIs is the same nation of chucks that rammed a retaliatory ass whiping to Germany when they firebombed the holy fck out of mighty Germany. Dresden on your mind?

all germans are nazis :cry
england beat the germans in ww2 :cry (1% contribution tbh)
argentina is full of crying nazis :cry
nazis in my sleep :cry
fucking nazis :cry

[dfens]

dfens

I have a room for you when you decide to come to Argieland :toast
my nigga :toast

[Kawhitstorm]

Algeria is the most overrated soccer nation ever tbh

Everytime I expect them to win the WC

Everytime they fail



Maybe if France didn't pouch their talents:

-Zidane
-Benzema
-Nasri

Senegal:
-Sagna
-Evra
-Vieira

:wakeup

[pgardn]

all germans are nazis :cry
england beat the germans in ww2 :cry (1% contribution tbh)
argentina is full of crying nazis :cry
nazis in my sleep :cry
fucking nazis :cry

No, most Germans I have met are exactly the opposite. They are ashamed of WW2.

Its just you harbor a special resentment for the COUNTRY of England. I'm just trying to figure what kind of large insect got into your pants, because it was NOT playing the worst football game in your incredible 35 years of viewing, my chump...

Its the Queen, it's that damn ugly Queen...

[lefty]

Maybe if France didn't pouch their talents:

-Zidane
-Benzema
-Nasri

Senegal:
-Sagna
-Evra
-Vieira

:wakeup

Eh they were born and grew up in France, I'm ok with that

It's up to us to develop top talent tbh... We did that very well in the 70s-80s

Then corruption happened

[dfens]

No, most Germans I have met are exactly the opposite. They are ashamed of WW2.

Its just you harbor a special resentment for the COUNTRY of England. I'm just trying to figure what kind of large insect got into your pants, because it was NOT playing the worst football game in your incredible 35 years of viewing, my chump...

Its the Queen, it's that damn ugly Queen...

lmao I have this beta shaking more than my granddaddy had his back in '40 :lmao