Don't blame the refs, blame the Spurs

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Outside of Green and Kawhi too much dead weight on the team and bricking open shot after open shot.


Never understood the argument of this being a top 3 or 4 Spur team all time as the league in general is very weak right now. We had our chances and blew it. It sucks but hopefully we can do something for Game 6.


2012 all over again

[808]

Normally, I don't blame the refs. But when two teams are going neck and neck, and only one team is allowed to get physical all game, you pretty heavily favor that one team. Fuck them

[AusSpur]

Why not blame the refs when they sucked hard.

We need more players get in their faces and intimidate them because unfortunately that is what works.

They have no fear calling shit fouls on the Spurs or no calling when the Spurs have the ball because they are generally left alone afterwards.

[will_spurs]

Game tied 90-90 with under a minute to play.
Adams trips Green who falls into Durant.
Foul on Green, 2 FTs for Durant.

But yeah don't blame the refs.

[ffadicted]

Refs were bad, but they weren't completely one sided. Spurs had a ton of chances to close it out, and quite frankly, choked and had poor clutch performance.

It's especially rough to watch as a long time spurs fan, a team that is known to be able to close out extremely well... being fucking outdone in the clutch by the Thunder, ouch

[spurraider21]

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[spurtech09]

Nah the refs had a lot to do with it.....I knew this was going to happen.....

[ECOV]

Game tied 90-90 with under a minute to play.
Adams trips Green who falls into Durant.
Foul on Green, 2 FTs for Durant.

But yeah don't blame the refs.

Fucking exactly

[DeadlyDynasty]

If you can't beat a 2-man team shooting 20-48 from the field and turning the ball over 10 times AT HOME, then maybe it's best that OKC save you from a 4-game sweep next round

[FkLA]

Westbrook made some big time plays after Kawhi's dunk gave the Spurs a 6 point lead. Credit where credit is due there. But the thunderrefs were in full display starting in the 3rd Qtr when the Spurs were threatening to pull away.

Unfortunately it doesn't fucking matter to anyone except us.

[TheDoctor]

I don't know what so say tbh. I'm having a 4th quarter spurs moment.

[808]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CiJIqXJUUAEhYqW.jpg

Spurs get called for the weakest shit all game. They go for an intentional foul, and they swallow their whistles. But instead, lets give Russ an and-1 on one fourth of that contact. Fuck you refs

[DPG21920]

If you can't beat a 2-man team shooting 20-48 from the field and turning the ball over 10 times AT HOME, then maybe it's best that OKC save you from a 4-game sweep next round

Nah. Spurs missed plenty of shots that they should make, but they controlled OKC. It was only a game because of rebounding, some fluky shots and the refs with the refs having the biggest impact along with rebounding.

Spurs, playing exactly the same but with an even whistle are up double digits.

[Mikeanaro]

Dont forget the ghost foul called on West because Adams decided to fly and all kind of weird shit in our home, at some point Adams missed two freebies and then because life is marvelous refs decided Kanter should throw a couple because he deserves a chance... the excuse was some pathetic West thing.
Parker fouls were a joke.
Lots of shit charged to DG, and a ghost foul to Duncan blocking Rihanna.

[Proxy]

can't help but read this as some condescending, self masturbation thread. You didn't see more than any of us did, the refs were bad both ways, bad in favor of OKC at the end.

worst part about this thread is that you're wrong

[SanDiegoSpursFan]

Gotta get more out of the bench, they were awful for the most part.

The offense was just pathetic down the stretch as well. 2 1/2 minutes without scoring a single point, LMA had two great looks that just missed and I forgot why Parker had to shoot that 3 but that was awful as well.

[Dro210]

Fuck that, we could have finished all 3 of these losses better, but we shouldn't have to overcome 8 on 5 every game. Shit is old.

[024]

Bench was just in complete deferring mode.

I don't understand why West wants to pass so much when OKC is giving him his signature jumper. Anderson doesn't do anything that even remotely contributes to the offense. Diaw tried to score but can't do much against OKC's 7 footers. Mills' confidence is just completely shot and Manu Ginobili is 38 years old.

Should have sprinkled in Boban and Simmons this game. Now they will be so out of rhythm for game 6, I don't know if they can even help.

[808]

Refs were bad, but they weren't completely one sided. Spurs had a ton of chances to close it out, and quite frankly, choked and had poor clutch performance.

It's especially rough to watch as a long time spurs fan, a team that is known to be able to close out extremely well... being fucking outdone in the clutch by the Thunder, ouch

I'm tired of people saying Spurs had their chances. Every play is a fucken chance, and the spurs made BIG plays. Why is it that the Spurs are the ones that have to play perfectly every fucken time to win a close game??

[Keepin' it real]

Can't believe they settled for a Parker jumper. I was screaming GET IT TO KAWHI!!!

[DeadlyDynasty]

This is a bad Thunder team (compared to previous playoff seasons) and they have you on the ropes. Just sad

[FkLA]

People will talk about the 4th Qtr but I was going apeshit in the 3rd. They were in the bonus with 8 mins left on soft ass calls. Meanwhile LMA was literally getting shoved by Anus Cancer on the other end with no whistle.

Pop should've protested their BS to the poing of getting T'd up tbh.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Parker was wide open on TWO shots and Aldridge was WIDE OPEN 8 feet from the basket. I do think the officiating was frustrating but the Spurs got murdered on the boards, failed to attack the rim, only Kawhi was willing to do it, and Pop had some very very poor rotations (way too much West).

Thunder hit some very big shots, and they had players off the bench who actually knew there was a game tonight. I was never convinced the Spurs were the better team in this series. Too much dead weight and no idea who will consistently show up for us. It's the playoffs and this is the only Spur team I can recall that lacks identity.

[SupremeGuy]

Spurs get called for the weakest shit all game. They go for an intentional foul, and they swallow their whistles. But instead, lets give Russ an and-1 on one fourth of that contact. Fuck you refsThis. Fucking incredible how much refs fuck us.

[Mikeanaro]

I'm tired of people saying Spurs had their chances. Every play is a fucken chance, and the spurs made BIG plays. Why is it that the Spurs are the ones that have to play perfectly every fucken time to win a close game??
Because the world is full of idiots and they need to buy illusions like the one that OKC are gods and must win no matter what, even if they are not the better team so they can make mistakes and refs will say LETS GIVE THEM A CHANCE.
The rigging is the sad part of the NBA all that stupid entertainment thing.
The way they defended us was total crap, 5 fouls per drive and yet no calls, fuck the idiots who think otherwise.

[tholdren]

Game tied 90-90 with under a minute to play.
Adams trips Green who falls into Durant.
Foul on Green, 2 FTs for Durant.

But yeah don't blame the refs.


Lamarcus Aldridge - how many shots did he miss? 16? had he shot 40% from the floor spurs would have won. Had he rebounded the ball spurs would have won. had he fouled the shit out of west brooks last shot, spurs would have had the chance to tie. Refs may have missed 2 calls, LMA missed all night long.

[bklynspursfan]

The refs robbed us of an opportunity to tie it up or win on that last play. I blame them for that, and yes they were crap all game.

But this is on the bench and LMA overall

[steeledl]

Refs called a shitty game and put us in a bad spot but if we actually blocked out and actually executed some offensive plays to end the game we still would have won.



Shit fucking sucks man.

[south side spur]

Did the Spurs play well on offense? No. Did the refs cost them the game? All game long Westbrook gets calls when absolutely no contact was made. Kawhi gets slapped in the face by Westbrook? Nothing as usual. Kawhi has officially replaced Duncan as the most disrespected by the refs. Players are allowed to abuse Kawhi all game long with no concern.

Finally, on a play where Westbrook was actually fouled the refs don't call it? Spurs have no one else to blame because they can't have that mentality. That's why the Clippers will never be shit. However, I think anyone who's being objective realizes that after all that and with the free throw disparity the refs might as well have come out in blue uniforms tonight.

[Mikeanaro]

Lamarcus Aldridge - how many shots did he miss? 16? had he shot 40% from the floor spurs would have won. Had he rebounded the ball spurs would have won. had he fouled the shit out of west brooks last shot, spurs would have had the chance to tie. Refs may have missed 2 calls, LMA missed all night long.
It doesnt matter if he was 1/100 you retard, the only thing that matters is the game being wrongfully reffed.

[jdelar03]

Sucks because i have a feeling Spurs fold for game 6 and lose by 10+

[tholdren]

Did the Spurs play well on offense? No. Did the refs cost them the game? All game long Westbrook gets calls when absolutely no contact was made. Kawhi gets slapped in the face by Westbrook? Nothing as usual. Kawhi has officially replaced Duncan as the most disrespected by the refs. Players are allowed to abuse Kawhi all game long with no concern.

Finally, on a play where Westbrook was actually fouled the refs don't call it? Spurs have no one else to blame because they can't have that mentality. That's why the Clippers will never be shit. However, I think anyone who's being objective realizes that after all that and with the free throw disparity the refs might as well have come out in blue uniforms tonight.

spurs 19 fouls -

thunder 22 fouls -

Get over it. Spurs lost because of: effort, rebounding, collapsing when it matters. but who cares? its just basketball.

[Horse]

Outside of Green and Kawhi too much dead weight on the team and bricking open shot after open shot.


Never understood the argument of this being a top 3 or 4 Spur team all time as the league in general is very weak right now. We had our chances and blew it. It sucks but hopefully we can do something for Game 6.


2012 all over again
fuck you last two games absolutely on the refs. Besides the obvious bs putting them in the bonus everytime the Spurs get a decent lead kept them in the game.

[littlecoyotecoin]

Refs were bad, but they weren't completely one sided. Spurs had a ton of chances to close it out, and quite frankly, choked and had poor clutch performance.

It's especially rough to watch as a long time spurs fan, a team that is known to be able to close out extremely well... being fucking outdone in the clutch by the Thunder, ouch

This is always the bailout excuse...Spurs still had a chance...no shit...if it's rigged, it should ALWAYS look like teams have a chance. That doesn't mean the dice aren't loaded. They can always Lucy the football on you Charlie Brown.

[Mikeanaro]

This is a bad Thunder team (compared to previous playoff seasons) and they have you on the ropes. Just sad
Missing the playoffs for the 7th time is sad...

[spurtech09]

Well what can you do.....like I said its going to be a Warriors vs Lebron James rematch in the finals...that's what the NBA league wants....All about Ratings and money....Greedy and evil...not my cup of tea..

[r0drig0lac]

truth bomb

[DeadlyDynasty]

Missing the playoffs for the 7th time is sad...
doesn't work, nor does it ease the pain of watching Duncan lose his last home game in his career

[Mikeanaro]

fuck you last two games absolutely on the refs. Besides the obvious bs putting them in the bonus everytime the Spurs get a decent lead kept them in the game.
Agreed, too much circus these days even Pop was bored and didnt push the refs.

[KL2]

The league is rigged, stop taking bball seriously guys :lol, always has been, always will be

[Mikeanaro]

doesn't work, nor does it ease the pain of watching Duncan lose his last game ever at home
Who cares? everything must end someday and this was a ref job, not some crippled bald nigga talking 48,5 millions and leaving the team like a mess.

[DeadlyDynasty]

and this was a ref job.
the epitaph of every Spurs season in their eyes:lmao

[Big Dog]

:lol I love when DeadlyDynasty acts like an unintentional dick. Tell em like it is

[Mikeanaro]

the epitaph of every Spurs season in their eyes:lmao
Says the Lakerfan used to get the calls and shit like stealing the Pistons a championship and then Sacramento 02.

[da_suns_fan]

spurs 19 fouls -

thunder 22 fouls -

Get over it. Spurs lost because of: effort, rebounding, collapsing when it matters. but who cares? its just basketball.

And Tony Parker suuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks!

[will_spurs]

Lamarcus Aldridge - how many shots did he miss? 16? had he shot 40% from the floor spurs would have won. Had he rebounded the ball spurs would have won. had he fouled the shit out of west brooks last shot, spurs would have had the chance to tie. Refs may have missed 2 calls, LMA missed all night long.

So you're ok with the Spurs getting an automatic 2 FTs whenever the game is tied from now on, since it apparently doesn't change anything?

[HI-FI]

OKC had a significant FT advantage last game and this one, so their HFA carries over as I've said before. One side is allowed to play ultra physical. fucking joke. The league is run by corrupt shitheads and Pop is too much of a chicken shit /company man to call them out so I guess it doesn't even matter.

[DeadlyDynasty]

:lol I love when DeadlyDynasty (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=15365) acts like an unintentional dick. Tell em like it is
Congrats BD, hope your boys finish the job in Game 6. They got heart, more than I can say for the bunch in here. Blaming refs (especially when you're supposed to be the superior team) is such a uterine tactic.

[south side spur]

spurs 19 fouls -

thunder 22 fouls -

Get over it. Spurs lost because of: effort, rebounding, collapsing when it matters. but who cares? its just basketball.

I'm good actually so there's nothing to "get over" for me. I'm just sick and tired of Westbrook having a convulsion going down the lane and getting calls. I agree as far as Aldridge being one of the main reasons why the Spurs lost. That early season vaginitis has flared up again.

[SouthernFried]

You can blame both.

The refs did have something to do with stopping the Spurs when they had a big lead, and kept it close. Spurs also blew many chances. One is not exclusive of the other.

[DPG21920]

I don't get the narrative of SA not attacking. They dominated the points in the paint. They didn't settle, they were inside and killing it. No calls.

Spurs make shots and/or rebound better then it doesn't matter, but don't paint a false picture.

[Timothy21]

blame our max player...

[south side spur]

Congrats BD, hope your boys finish the job in Game 6. They got heart, more than I can say for the bunch in here. Blaming refs (especially when you're supposed to be the superior team) is such a uterine tactic.

Almost as bad as claiming 5 championships that happened in Minnesota. Now that's some Hollywood bitchassness.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Almost as bad as claiming 5 championships that happened in Minnesota. Now that's some Hollywood bitchassness.
Let it all out buddy, I'll be your shoulder to cry on tonight.

[Darius McCrary]

I don't get the narrative of SA not attacking. They dominated the points in the paint. They didn't settle, they were inside and killing it. No calls.

Spurs make shots and/or rebound better then it doesn't matter, but don't paint a false picture.
They did not initiate contact with majority of those paint shots. They weren't contact plays. They weren't "oh shit, we need a bucket now and refs are blowing their whistles, go in the paint and make something happen" baskets. You can score in the paint and still be playing passively overall.

[Spurtacular]

Spurs went up 62-49 and the refs went into game management mode, slowing the game down. Refs not calling that foul at the end iced the game for the Thunder. Refs don't get a pass no matter how much the Spurs f'd up.

[DPG21920]

They did not initiate contact with majority of those paint shots. They weren't contact plays. They weren't "oh shit, we need a bucket now and refs are blowing their whistles, go in the paint and make something happen" baskets. You can score in the paint and still be playing passively overall.

Bullshit TBH..They were banging down low but because it was SA they didn't get the calls. There was the same amount of contact on most plays but not being called.

I have absolutely no problem with the calls OKC got. I have a serious problem with a team banging inside not getting the same calls.

[Darius McCrary]

Bullshit TBH..They were banging down low but because it was SA they didn't get the calls. There was the same amount of contact on most plays but not being called.

I have absolutely no problem with the calls OKC got. I have a serious problem with a team banging inside not getting the same calls.

We got jewed by the refs as brutally as we've ever seen but that's still no excuse for Kawhi not attacking the paint every time instead of taking those whack ass jumpers

Or Kawhi passing to Parker with 4 seconds left on the shot clock

Or kawhi not getting open on the final ran play of the game

We didn't attack the paint when it mattered.

[dav4463]

The last foul is the most unbelievable of all.....OKC has the ball, they know Spurs are going to foul to have any chance. Spurs know they have to foul. Both teams know they are going to foul. Every fan in the arena knows Spurs have to foul. Everyone watching on TV knows Spurs are going to foul. .....Kahwi fouls Westbrook and the call is not made! Then he is allowed to go lay it in......Then.....we get the foul call to put the game away! That is ridiculous! Any other game, the whistle is blown right away because everybody in the world knows they HAVE TO FOUL!!!!

[DPG21920]

We got jewed by the refs as brutally as we've ever seen but that's still no excuse for Kawhi not attacking the paint every time instead of taking those whack ass jumpers

Or Kawhi passing to Parker with 4 seconds left on the shot clock

Or kawhi not getting open on the final ran play of the game

We didn't attack the paint when it mattered.

When you are missing because you are getting banged you have to adjust to try and get different looks. It's chicken and the egg.

[Darius McCrary]

When you are missing because you are getting banged you have to adjust to try and get different looks. It's chicken and the egg.

The refs started calling it tight both ways towards the end of the 3rd. That's when LaMarcus kept getting FT's and we hadn't actually sunk a FG for like 10 straight attempts.

When the refs dialed in that tight calling, Kawhi should have attacked every time. Instead he goes the majority of the 4th without even shooting the ball.

[Mikeanaro]

The last foul is the most unbelievable of all.....OKC has the ball, they know Spurs are going to foul to have any chance. Spurs know they have to foul. Both teams know they are going to foul. Every fan in the arena knows Spurs have to foul. Everyone watching on TV knows Spurs are going to foul. .....Kahwi fouls Westbrook and the call is not made! Then he is allowed to go lay it in......Then.....we get the foul call to put the game away! That is ridiculous! Any other game, the whistle is blown right away because everybody in the world knows they HAVE TO FOUL!!!!
That the NBA way of saying FUCK YOU WE DECIDE WHO WINS.

[Mikeanaro]

The refs started calling it tight both ways towards the end of the 3rd. That's when LaMarcus kept getting FT's and we hadn't actually sunk a FG for like 10 straight attempts.

When the refs dialed in that tight calling, Kawhi should have attacked every time. Instead he goes the majority of the 4th without even shooting the ball.
There is no ¨They must/should blabla¨ You have already said we were killed by the refs so everything else is pure BS speculation, yes he could attack the rim/shoot and still get no calls, Spurs were fucked even in the last plays whats the point of your pointless point?

[Harry Callahan]

People will talk about the 4th Qtr but I was going apeshit in the 3rd. They were in the bonus with 8 mins left on soft ass calls. Meanwhile LMA was literally getting shoved by Anus Cancer on the other end with no whistle.

Pop should've protested their BS to the poing of getting T'd up tbh.

Pop won't do it.

[Darius McCrary]

There is no ¨They must/should blabla¨ You have already said we were killed by the refs so everything else is pure BS speculation, yes he could attack the rim/shoot and still get no calls, Spurs were fucked even in the last plays whats the point of your pointless point?

To say they were fucked all game is ignorant. They started calling fouls in our favor deep into the 3rd.
To continue to take jump shots after that point is a failure on the part of the Spurs.

Try to keep up.

[littlecoyotecoin]

The last foul is the most unbelievable of all.....OKC has the ball, they know Spurs are going to foul to have any chance. Spurs know they have to foul. Both teams know they are going to foul. Every fan in the arena knows Spurs have to foul. Everyone watching on TV knows Spurs are going to foul. .....Kahwi fouls Westbrook and the call is not made! Then he is allowed to go lay it in......Then.....we get the foul call to put the game away! That is ridiculous! Any other game, the whistle is blown right away because everybody in the world knows they HAVE TO FOUL!!!!

[Harry Callahan]

There is no ¨They must/should blabla¨ You have already said we were killed by the refs so everything else is pure BS speculation, yes he could attack the rim/shoot and still get no calls, Spurs were fucked even in the last plays whats the point of your pointless point?

Every quarter, the spurs had a foul in less than a minute. Once again they are in the penalty a big chunk of the game. The third quarter was an abortion for the officials. Sickening that this same shit happens again just like 4 years ago. It's really really poor, inconsistent officiating.

The Spurs deserved a little more respect, but got none. You would think we were the Washington Bullets out there tonight. Putrid.

[objective]

Refs were bad, but they're usually bad. They are a constant, they are baked into the game plan and baked into expectations. They don't vary.

Pop is the one who screwed the game over. No ref crew has ever or will ever screw the Spurs over more than Pop's bad decisions

[Mikeanaro]

We got jewed by the refs as brutally as we've ever seen but that's still no excuse for Kawhi not attacking the paint every time instead of taking those whack ass jumpers
.


To say they were fucked all game is ignorant. They started calling fouls in our favor deep into the 3rd.
To continue to take jump shots after that point is a failure on the part of the Spurs.

Try to keep up.
You said it, try to keep up.

[Darius McCrary]

You said it, try to keep up.

Yes but regardless of that horrendous early 3rd quarter ref job, we were still leading and had the ability to win this game. That's on us.

Did you even watch

[Mikeanaro]

Every quarter, the spurs had a foul in less than a minute. Once again they are in the penalty a big chunk of the game. The third quarter was an abortion for the officials. Sickening that this same shit happens again just like 4 years ago. It's really really poor, inconsistent officiating.

The Spurs deserved a little more respect, but got none. You would think we were the Washington Bullets out there tonight. Putrid.
Agreed, the way Parker got 4 fouls so early was alarming and those ghost fouls were so stupid.
I dont get how a team has won 5 championships playing against the opposing team and the refs, anyway once Manu retires I wont be following so much the NBA too much dumb shit going on.

[EIC]

spurs 19 fouls -

thunder 22 fouls -

Get over it. Spurs lost because of: effort, rebounding, collapsing when it matters. but who cares? its just basketball.

Those were the fouls called. Many of the Spurs "fouls" were not fouls at all and a lot of fouls by OKC were never called. I've never seen a team get more mileage out of the refs than the Durant/Westbrook Thunder. It's borderline embarrassing for the refs because it is so obvious.

[mexicanjunior]

If you can't beat a 2-man team shooting 20-48 from the field and turning the ball over 10 times AT HOME, then maybe it's best that OKC save you from a 4-game sweep next round

This....

[Mikeanaro]

Yes but regardless of that horrendous early 3rd quarter ref job, we were still leading and had the ability to win this game. That's on us.

Did you even watch
Wrong, if you have an 11 point lead or a 50 point lead you can suck all you want refs dont have the right to take your advantage away in no fucking way.
And on the other hand if you suck or you are losing refs SHOULDNT HELP THE TEAM IN ANY WAY.
Officializing is about fair game, not about giving one team advantages and the other must do extra things to get the victory.

[kaji157]

Yeah, its on the refs too, but too many mistakes by the Spurs, plus Kawhi is the beta of the betas not asking for the last shot and lettin Tony decide the game on jumpers, same goes to LMA.

And i dont want to start on Pop, i am still figuring out, why when we have the ball down one with 30 seconds left he doesnt call a timeout, second time in the series that happens.

I guess it´s wake up or go home.

[UZER]

Even fouls called does not mean the game was called evenly.

[UZER]

People always say attack the rim and you'll get rewarded.

Then how the hell does a player like Kawhi get his first and only free throws of the entire game late in the first?

[EIC]

Even fouls called does not mean the game was called evenly.

[Mikeanaro]

People always say attack the rim and you'll get rewarded.

Then how the hell does a player like Kawhi get his first and only free throws of the entire game late in the first?
People are idiots.
You wont, you will only get hacked so much that you will lose the ball miss the shot and guess what? no whistle.

[UZER]

People are idiots.
You wont, you will only get hacked so much that you will lose the ball miss the shot and guess what? no whistle.

Attack the rim get rewarded. BS!! The refs decide who gets rewarded...period.

[Kawhitstorm]

Nah. Spurs missed plenty of shots that they should make, but they controlled OKC. It was only a game because of rebounding, some fluky shots and the refs with the refs having the biggest impact along with rebounding.

Spurs, playing exactly the same but with an even whistle are up double digits.

Essentially, the Spurs shot themselves in the foot to the point where the margin of error (including by the refs) was nonexistent. Fuckin' Pop playing D-Worst 15 minutes when he was giving up automatic offensive rebounds was inexcusable since he wasn't doing shyt on the other end.