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Nbadan
09-30-2005, 04:26 PM
For those of you who are still under the mistaken impression that Democrats are nothing but piss and vinegar...

A Progressive Plan for Iraq and the Fight Against Violent Extremists
September 30 , 2005


The war in Iraq has not made the United States any safer and the Bush administration's complete lack of leadership in bringing this war to a successful conclusion must be addressed. Rather than debate the false choice between “stay the course” and immediate withdrawal, Lawrence Korb and Brian Katulis of the Center for American Progress have developed a progressive strategy for Iraq that re-focuses our strategy on fighting terrorist networks, strengthens and rebuilds US ground forces and creates a reasonable timetable for ending the war successfully in Iraq.

Drawdown 80,000 U.S. troops from Iraq by the end of 2006 with near total drawdown completed by the end of 2007 and no permanent bases left behind. Rather than keeping our troops in Iraq indefinitely, Korb and Katulis argue that the U.S. should "begin a slow and irreversible drawdown of military forces in order to preserve our all-volunteer Army and refocus all elements of American power on the real threats our country faces." Their strategy consists of two phases. Phase one would occur in 2006 with the drawdown of 80,000 troops out of Iraq by December 31, 2006. The 60,000 remaining U.S. troops would spend 2007 focused on top priorities such as the training of Iraqi security forces, the tightening of Iraq's border, and the tracking down of insurgents with small Special Forces units. Phase two of the drawdown would take place in 2007, and would leave behind a much smaller military force to protect the U.S. embassy and help Iraqi security forces with counterterrorism efforts. The U.S. must also state unambiguously that there will be no permanent bases in Iraq.


Redeployment should bring the National Guard and Reserve troops home immediately and send critical forces to fight terrorists in the Persian Gulf, Asia and Africa. The strategic redeployment plan would bring the 46,000 Guard and Reserve troops back home immediately to "focus on shoring up gaps in homeland security." They should no longer be stretched thin by their foreign and domestic duties and should return the policy of spending no more than one year out of five on active duty. Up to two brigades, about 20,000 troops, would be sent to bolster counterterrorism efforts in places like Afghanistan, the Philippines, and Somalia and Sudan. A smaller contingent will remain in Kuwait to strike any terrorist camps and enclaves throughout the region.

Refocus our diplomatic, communications and reconstruction efforts. Strategic redeployment also requires renewed external efforts to fight violent extremists through other means. Our rhetoric on democracy building must be matched by equally compelling diplomatic and financial commitments to make the transition to democracy a reality.

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A Progressive Exit Strategy

1,934 U.S. soldiers have died and at least 14,755 soldiers have been wounded in Iraq. Suicide car bombers continue to terrorize Shiite civilians. Sixty-seven percent of Americans disapprove of the way Bush is handling the war, and 63 percent say they want some or all U.S. troops taken out of Iraq. Yesterday, General George Casey, the top U.S. commander in Iraq, told senators that the number of combat-ready Iraqi battalions has dropped from three to one. Sixty-five percent of Americans think we are spending too much in Iraq, while 64 percent are not confident the money in Iraq is being spent wisely. Despite the bad news, the White House continues its public relations push to keep the American people "updated about the progress" in Iraq. It's time for a new direction. Rather than debate the false choice between “stay the course” and immediate withdrawal, American Progress Senior Fellow Lawrence Korb and Director of Democracy and Public Diplomacy Brian Katulis have developed a progressive exit strategy that would culminate in the withdrawal of most forces by 2007. Their report also calls for an immediate strategic redeployment of existing forces; "a global communications campaign to counter misinformation and hateful ideologies; new regional diplomatic initiatives; and smarter support for Iraq’s renewal." Read more about the problems with the Bush administration's approach and the stronger, progressive alternative.

PRESERVE THE ALL-VOLUNTEER ARMY AND REFOCUS ON REAL THREATS: The United States currently has 149,000 troops in Iraq. When asked yesterday if plans for "fairly substantial reductions" in troop levels were going forward, General Casey told reporters, "It's too soon to tell." If we don't bring troops home soon, the Pentagon will "send many units back to Iraq for a third time and to activate Reserve and Guard forces a second or third time." This move would seriously compromise the all-volunteer Army. Rather than keeping our troops in Iraq indefinitely, the progressive exit strategy calls for the U.S. to "begin a slow and irreversible drawdown of military forces in order to preserve our all-volunteer Army and refocus all elements of American power on the real threats our country faces."

A PLAN FOR SUCCESS: The progressive exit strategy consists of two phases. Phase one would occur in 2006 with the drawdown of 80,000 troops out of Iraq by December 31, 2006. The 60,000 remaining U.S. troops would spend 2007 focused on top priorities such as the training of Iraqi security forces, the tightening of Iraq's border, and the tracking down of insurgents with small Special Forces units. The reduced U.S. troops presence "would be more effective in rooting out the insurgents and terrorist networks." Phase two of the drawdown would begin in 2007, and would leave behind a much smaller military force just sufficient enough "to deal with any major external threats to Iraq."

A PROGRESSIVE EXIT STRATEGY MAKES US SAFER: We need to get our troops out of Iraq for one simple reason - it will make Iraq and our troops more secure. A progressive exit strategy is necessary because "keeping our troops in Iraq is actually attracting and motivating America’s terrorist enemies" and the large presence of U.S. troops in Iraq is "making the difficult compromises necessary to complete Iraq’s political transition." Also, Iraqi security forces will never be able to work alone unless we hand them more responsibility for their own security.

BRING THE NATIONAL GUARD AND RESERVE HOME: The progressive exit strategy would bring the 46,000 Guard and Reserve troops back home to "focus on shoring up gaps in homeland security." They should no longer be stretched thin by their foreign and domestic duties.

Progressive Plan For Iraq (http://www.americanprogress.org/atf/cf/%7BE9245FE4-9A2B-43C7-A521-5D6FF2E06E03%7D/redeployment.pdf)

ChumpDumper
09-30-2005, 04:31 PM
Plans always bug me when they call for action by a certain date and not because any strategic objective has been achieved. It was stupid for the elections and constitution and it's stupid for the pullout of forces as well.

Nbadan
09-30-2005, 04:42 PM
This is just a strategy for exiting Iraq with some sort of Army left over, if we want to win in Iraq The Art of War dictates that we need between 300,000-450,000 troops, depending on how many insurgents there truely are, and I don't think anyone is prepared to make the types of decisions needed to get out troop levels that high, Republican or Democrat.

Useruser666
09-30-2005, 04:46 PM
We would need between 0 and infinity number of troops depending on how many insurgents there are.

boutons
09-30-2005, 04:47 PM
Leaving "when" to some nebulous future, and just slogan-ly "staying the course" (the course being totally undefined anyway. I sure shrub doesn't have clue what the course is) aren't very satisfactory, unless you are a Repub robot smitten into ignorance and blind, unthinking trust in everything Repub.

The Thomas Friedman article I posted here yesterday seems like a pretty good way to look at the NEAR future. The voting to ratify the Constitution and of the parliamentary elections are two good checkpoints to see whether the Sunnis are going have a go at working within the goverement, necessarily as a minority (which they are numerically), or whether they will just keep on slaughtering Shiites and Americans.

The other day a top religious Shiite cleric issued, for the first time, a fatwa that the Shiites should stop letting themselves be slaughtered by the Sunnis without fighting back (fighting back is apparently forbidden or discouraged by Shiite principles).

If the Shiites do start fighting back, then we'll have a full-blown Shiite-Sunni civil war, with Kurds fighting to hold their territory, and the bogus "country" created by the English, cracking into 3 pieces. Such niceties like Constitutions and Parliaments will be out the window.

What will dubya's "stay the course" be then?

Nbadan
09-30-2005, 04:49 PM
We would need between 0 and infinity number of troops depending on how many insurgents there are.

Gezz, go read Sin Tzu's The Art of War and get back to us.

RandomGuy
09-30-2005, 05:46 PM
Gezz, go read Sin Tzu's The Art of War and get back to us.

We don't need no book by some foreigner to tell US how to wage war... :makemyday

Nbadan
09-30-2005, 05:52 PM
We don't need no book by some foreigner to tell US how to wage war... :makemyday

:lmao

They read this one at Westpoint.

CommanderMcBragg
10-01-2005, 09:27 AM
Time to kick ass and get the hell out.