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Kawhitstorm
05-13-2016, 05:55 PM
Kawhi had to either guard the most athletic point guard to EVER play the game or was assigned to put out the fire Danny started every time he was on the floor. They happen to be the most devastating two man duo on the offensive end since Kirby/Shaq:

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The burden was put on Kawhi/Danny to contain them 1-on-1 while Porker does absolutely nothing on defense.:rolleyes On top of it, Kawhi was expected to be the 1st or 2nd option on offense every single game.

-WestBrick: 25/6/10/2 (27 TOs / FG: 37% / TS: 47%)
-Kawhi: 23/7/3/2 (12 TOs / FG: 48% / TS: 55%)

-WB averaged 22 drive per 100 possession in the regular season & 1st rd but against Kawhi he averaged 3 drives per 100 possession: (http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=15472072)

-WB also didn't score a single basket against Kawhi in Gm 2 when OKC stole HCA but let's blame Kawhi's 7/18 night::rolleyes

lV9LRdSLHeQ

Let's see how the original Kawhi (:lolKirby:lol) fared while being asked to be a primary or secondary scoring option while guarding elite scorer for 48 minutes:

2001 Finals:
-Kirby (2nd option & DIDN'T have to guard AI 48 minutes): 24/7/5/1 (18 TOs / FG: 41% / TS: 50%)
-AI aka Original WestBrick (didn't have KD / played 1 on 5): 35/5/3/2 (12 TOs / FG: 40% / TS: 48%)

Yob7Ov9-wW0

2004 Finals:
-Kirby (Wanna be 1st option): 22/2/4/1 (18 TOs / FG: 38% / TS: 45%:lol)
-Rip: 21/5/4 (23 TOs / FG: 40% / TS: 50%)

nhN41MWk8EA

2008 Finals: (**Closest scenario to the OKC series since Kirby couldn't hide on Ray Allen**)
-MVP Kirby (Pau=LMA): 25/4/5/2 (23 TOs / FG: 40% / TS: 50%)
-Pierce: 21/4/6/1 (22 TOs / FG: 43% / TS: 58%)

JkXnQba6Phg

Now, let's put to bed all the Kawhi is "overrated" narratives.:sleep

tholdren
05-13-2016, 05:58 PM
Keep posting every round and maybe KL will get finals mvp

spursistan
05-13-2016, 06:00 PM
Thunder espn beat writer.."severely" :lol...this dude actually bigger homer than Ethan Strauss.

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skulls138
05-13-2016, 06:01 PM
Kawhi was not the problem dummies.

Kawhitstorm
05-13-2016, 06:03 PM
Thunder espn beat writer.."severely" :lol...this dude actually bigger home than Ethan Strauss.

The same dude that keeps bringing up Ibaka's*FAKE*injury from 2014 as if he didn't play in Gm 5/6 & get raw dogged by old ass Tim in OT.

tholdren
05-13-2016, 06:04 PM
Kawhi was not the problem dummies.
lol 12 year old with a terrible take

Brazil
05-13-2016, 06:09 PM
Op is like :cry

tholdren
05-13-2016, 06:11 PM
but but but when he was the 4th option on the finals team, and the corpse of ray allen, Rashard Lewis, or Mario Chalmers defended him he was FMVP

Dro210
05-13-2016, 06:17 PM
I think Kawhi fucked throlden's wife and made him watch, tbh tbh

OP with truth nukes

Kawhitstorm
05-13-2016, 06:18 PM
I think Kawhi fucked throlden's wife and made him watch, tbh tbh

OP with truth nukes

I think he lost a bet on Kawhi:lol

cjw
05-13-2016, 06:19 PM
The same dude that keeps bringing up Ibaka's*FAKE*injury from 2014 as if he didn't play in Gm 5/6 & get raw dogged by old ass Tim in OT.

Dont worry, OKC won't have a team in two years. Dude will have to cover minor league baseball or move to Tulsa and cover the WNBA.

And on the main subject, great post. Kawhi wasn't the problem. In fact, he helped team almost overcome its mediocrity.

daslicer
05-13-2016, 06:25 PM
Kawhi was crap in this series. OP and the rest of these fans are trying spin whatever they can to feel better about him not being a real superstar.

ElNono
05-13-2016, 06:33 PM
I don't hate Kawhi Leonard, and he plays hard as fuck, but he still has a lot of work ahead of him... Decision making, knowing when to go to that extra gear, when to slow down...

He's been improving every season though, so hopefully he doesn't hit a ceiling yet.

daslicer
05-13-2016, 06:36 PM
I don't hate Kawhi Leonard, and he plays hard as fuck, but he still has a lot of work ahead of him... Decision making, knowing when to go to that extra gear, when to slow down...

He's been improving every season though, so hopefully he doesn't hit a ceiling yet.

Most of these guys reach their ceiling when they are 24-25 and there is only slight improvements afterwards which tends to be the little things along with increased basketball IQ.

Clipper Nation
05-13-2016, 06:39 PM
Kawhi had to either guard the most athletic point guard to EVER play the game or was assigned to put out the fire Danny started every time he was on the floor. They happen to be the most devastating two man duo on the offensive end since Kirby/Shaq:

730955808566038528

The burden was put on Kawhi/Danny to contain them 1-on-1 while Porker does absolutely nothing on defense.:rolleyes On top of it, Kawhi was expected to be the 1st or 2nd option on offense every single game.

-WestBrick: 25/6/10/2 (27 TOs / FG: 37% / TS: 47%)
-Kawhi: 23/7/3/2 (12 TOs / FG: 48% / TS: 55%)

-WB averaged 22 drive per 100 possession in the regular season & 1st rd but against Kawhi he averaged 3 drives per 100 possession: (http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=15472072)

-WB also didn't score a single basket against Kawhi in Gm 2 when OKC stole HCA but let's blame Kawhi's 7/18 night::rolleyes

lV9LRdSLHeQ

Let's see how the original Kawhi (:lolKirby:lol) fared while being asked to be a primary or secondary scoring option while guarding elite scorer for 48 minutes:

2001 Finals:
-Kirby (2nd option & DIDN'T have to guard AI 48 minutes): 24/7/5/1 (18 TOs / FG: 41% / TS: 50%)
-AI aka Original WestBrick (didn't have KD / played 1 on 5): 35/5/3/2 (12 TOs / FG: 40% / TS: 48%)

Yob7Ov9-wW0

2004 Finals:
-Kirby (Wanna be 1st option): 22/2/4/1 (18 TOs / FG: 38% / TS: 45%:lol)
-Rip: 21/5/4 (23 TOs / FG: 40% / TS: 50%)

nhN41MWk8EA

2008 Finals: (**Closest scenario to the OKC series since Kirby couldn't hide on Ray Allen**)
-MVP Kirby (Pau=LMA): 25/4/5/2 (23 TOs / FG: 40% / TS: 50%)
-Pierce: 21/4/6/1 (22 TOs / FG: 43% / TS: 58%)

JkXnQba6Phg

Now, let's put to bed all the Kawhi is "overrated" narratives.:sleep
http://i.imgur.com/9o8fvVx.gif

313
05-13-2016, 06:54 PM
Most of these guys reach their ceiling when they are 24-25 and there is only slight improvements afterwards which tends to be the little things along with increased basketball IQ.
True. Unfortunately, Kawhi learned how to dribble at 22, I don't think we can expect him to improve that much in that aspect of his game.

SAGirl
05-13-2016, 07:00 PM
Ppl who think players not yet 25 have hit some ceiling are hating. That's just the truth, barring injuries players of Kawhi's age who work hard and have talent can continue to improve specially on what they already do well and Kawhi can score.

He can be more skilled and savvy + he needs help. If neither him or LMA are talented elite passers Pop needs to get them one. Skilled passing is the one skill I have heard Pop say he's not sure can even be coached. I don't think it can either. You can teach a guy an offense where guys are supposed to be etc., but it comes so much easier to guys who have that gift. So he's not going to be LeBron, but he can learn to read a PnR and execute one better.

The concern to me is that without TD next season we are in trouble in general bc the reason LMA and Kawhi don't have a devastating two man game like TD and Manu or Tony used to have was that TD could pass very well finding them cutting and LMA isn't on that level + both Manu and Tony were special running the PNR with TD + aggressive with speed getting to the basket. Kawhi hasn't displayed the same game and neither has LMA. We should have gone to both of them a whole lot more even if we didn't end up with a 67 win record. There's a reason they say new teams like this don't win in their first season. Chemistry takes time and Kawhi himself was still evolving and growing + LMA too new.

Note my comment is not restricted to Kawhi, and includes LMA bc it's a team sport.

Danny is not an elite passer or dribbler either. I think Pop will keep pushing everyone to pass better bc he's pushed even Danny but the SL needs help in that department. I agree that Kawhi thrives in a motion offense. We shall see for next season. Whoever we add just have some kind of passing skill if he's destined for the SL.

DarrinS
05-13-2016, 07:01 PM
KL wasn't the problem in this series AT ALL.

No bench production, bad coaching, and Tim's knees. Sprinkle in a little Thunderref and that spells trouble.

DarrinS
05-13-2016, 07:05 PM
Seeing Pop throw out Martin and Miller into a blowout elimination game on the road -- infuriating.


How about keeping one of Green/Kawhi on the floor AT ALL TIMES?

tholdren
05-13-2016, 07:11 PM
LOL didnt leonard try to defend ROBERON LAST NIGHT?.... thats right

RD2191
05-13-2016, 07:12 PM
OP dropping nukes.

SPURt
05-13-2016, 07:12 PM
KL wasn't the problem in this series AT ALL.

No bench production, bad coaching, and Tim's knees. Sprinkle in a little Thunderref and that spells trouble.
This. Westbrook and Durant weren't OKC's best defender, Adams/Ibaka/Roberson are. Curry isn't the Warriors best defender Green is. This series was like watching Lebron in Cleveland the first time around and why he looked for help with Wade/Bosh. People on here acting like Kawhi being the best offensive and defensive player for tge Spurs is a good strategy. It's not. He got no help with some decent stretches from Green and games 1/2 from LMA. Everyone else ate shit by the bucket full.

DarrinS
05-13-2016, 07:14 PM
LOL didnt leonard try to defend ROBERON LAST NIGHT?.... thats right

That's usually the guy they ignore or "hide" TP on. That scrub played well in game 6.

RD2191
05-13-2016, 07:15 PM
LOL didnt leonard try to defend ROBERON LAST NIGHT?.... thats right

Your shtick is just lame and pathetic tbh. It isn't amusing or witty. You're just annoying. No one takes you seriously and you're just embarrassing yourself at this point.

Clipper Nation
05-13-2016, 07:16 PM
Here's some more truth nukes for Tony Tissot's slurpers:


This season's choke:

16.2 PER RS
15.1 PER PS

.142 WS/48 RS
.099 WS/48 PS

108 ORtg RS
103 ORtg PS

.546 TS% RS
.499 TS% PS

29.1% Assist Percentage RS
32.8% Assist Percentage PS (wow, he actually improved at something in the playoffs for once!)

0.1 BPM RS
-0.5 BPM PS

LongtimeSpursFan
05-13-2016, 07:18 PM
Didnt read original post but I'm going to guess it goes like this: kawhi is great. Parker sucks.

TheGreatYacht
05-13-2016, 07:20 PM
Here's some more truth nukes for Tony Tissot's slurpers:
Did Tony refuse to get near your Pinoy clit? G'damn faggot

daslicer
05-13-2016, 07:20 PM
Didnt read original post but I'm going to guess it goes like this: kawhi is great. Parker sucks.

Pretty much and next year when Kawhi has a bad series it will be "Kyle Anderson sucks."

Clipper Nation
05-13-2016, 07:21 PM
Couldn't read original post but I'm going to pretend that I'm educated above a third-grade level.

FIFY

TheGreatYacht
05-13-2016, 07:21 PM
Tldr;

Conclusion - He's a third banana

DarrinS
05-13-2016, 07:23 PM
OP opened a can of tuna and cat crew shows up :lmao

Not every defense of Kawhi is a slight against your precious Frenchman. :lol

TheGreatYacht
05-13-2016, 07:23 PM
^ faggot didn't read Posts in here :lol probably lost his bifocals

SuperCam
05-13-2016, 07:25 PM
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Kiwi let Scuberson go Matt Barnes on his ass :bang

DarrinS
05-13-2016, 07:26 PM
^ faggot didn't read OP :lol probably lost his bifocals

I didn't devote an hour of shitty photoshop skills to create an anti-Parker avatar meme. I'm glad you have no agenda. :lmao

TheGreatYacht
05-13-2016, 07:26 PM
731182227573362688


Kiwi let Scuberson go Matt Barnes on his ass :bang
POS imposed his will on Kiwi

:pctoss

SuperCam
05-13-2016, 07:27 PM
Kiwi has a habit of getting his shit stuffed in elimination games...


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CEHYvR-VAAAvxE6.jpg

DarrinS
05-13-2016, 07:28 PM
731182227573362688


Kiwi let Scuberson go Matt Barnes on his ass :bang


meow -- wondercats!

RD2191
05-13-2016, 07:29 PM
Nolyfescrub talking to himself with his 70 alts.

TheGreatYacht
05-13-2016, 07:29 PM
Kiwi has a habit of getting his shit stuffed in elimination games...


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CEHYvR-VAAAvxE6.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/9o8fvVx.gif

RD2191
05-13-2016, 07:29 PM
Kiwi has a habit of getting his shit stuffed in elimination games...


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CEHYvR-VAAAvxE6.jpg

Reminds me of cat newton in the superbowl.

SuperCam
05-13-2016, 07:31 PM
http://i.imgur.com/G8JG89p.png

sit down faggot

DarrinS
05-13-2016, 07:32 PM
http://allcatslookmad.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/inbread.jpg

Kawhitstorm
05-13-2016, 07:36 PM
This. Westbrook and Durant weren't OKC's best defender, Adams/Ibaka/Roberson are. Curry isn't the Warriors best defender Green is. This series was like watching Lebron in Cleveland the first time around and why he looked for help with Wade/Bosh. People on here acting like Kawhi being the best offensive and defensive player for tge Spurs is a good strategy. It's not. He got no help with some decent stretches from Green and games 1/2 from LMA. Everyone else ate shit by the bucket full.

Yup, Jimmy Butler/Paul George shot 40% when they had to guard LeBron & were asked to drop 20. Pippen had Jordan to carry the offensive burden when he was asked to check elite players. MVP Kirby in the 2008 Finals was the closest thing to what Kawhi was asked to do in the OKC series since he had to guard either Pierce or Ray Allen (Ariza was injured) along w/ Pau being the only other player on the Lakers that could score consistently.

If the bench didn't skunk it then you wouldn't hear whispers about Kawhi being overrated.

RD2191
05-13-2016, 07:38 PM
http://giphy.com/gifs/cam-newton-super-bowl-2016-l4Ki9iV6LMB5hyGfm

RD2191
05-13-2016, 07:38 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/l4Ki9iV6LMB5hyGfm/200w.gif

RD2191
05-13-2016, 07:39 PM
http://allcatslookmad.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/inbread.jpg

:lmao

Kawhitstorm
05-13-2016, 07:39 PM
Tldr;

Conclusion - He's a third banana

You mean like Kirby:

https://dberri.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/lakers200910.png

Clipper Nation
05-13-2016, 07:44 PM
Kiwi has a habit of getting his shit stuffed in elimination games...


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CEHYvR-VAAAvxE6.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/NpRAggY.gif

Kawhitstorm
05-13-2016, 07:44 PM
731182227573362688

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Clipper Nation
05-13-2016, 07:45 PM
Speaking of getting your shit stuffed...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oqIUPBzCh4

RD2191
05-13-2016, 07:46 PM
http://i.imgur.com/NpRAggY.gif

Lol.

Kawhitstorm
05-13-2016, 07:48 PM
Kiwi has a habit of getting his shit stuffed in elimination games...


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CEHYvR-VAAAvxE6.jpg

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99 Problems
05-13-2016, 07:52 PM
Kiwi's improvement continues to be scary. The Kobe experiment is going to be interesting.

wasnt MJ like 28 when got first ring.

Atl Spur
05-13-2016, 07:56 PM
This was spot on!!! Some people just aren't ever satisfied........not even with the guy who made himself into a superstar almost over night:) He has no ceiling with that work ethic!

RD2191
05-13-2016, 08:01 PM
I just wonder where this team would be without Kawhi...

DarrinS
05-13-2016, 08:03 PM
I just wonder where this team would be without Kawhi...

Swept -- at least, in this series

Hoops Czar
05-13-2016, 08:07 PM
Kawhi had to either guard the most athletic point guard to EVER play the game or was assigned to put out the fire Danny started every time he was on the floor. They happen to be the most devastating two man duo on the offensive end since Kirby/Shaq:


Now, let's put to bed all the Kawhi is "overrated" narratives.:sleep

Why don't you put Kawhi's 4th quarter of game 5 into perspective.

K...
05-13-2016, 08:11 PM
Serious question....if kawhi can't be a superior defender while being a main offense guy....

How do we plan our offense when we know Kawhi won't be there?

I mean do we coach him...go easy on defense? Okay Kyle 20m? Or make him a spot up shooter?

sasaint
05-13-2016, 08:15 PM
Kawhi had to either guard the most athletic point guard to EVER play the game or was assigned to put out the fire Danny started every time he was on the floor. They happen to be the most devastating two man duo on the offensive end since Kirby/Shaq:

730955808566038528

The burden was put on Kawhi/Danny to contain them 1-on-1 while Porker does absolutely nothing on defense.:rolleyes On top of it, Kawhi was expected to be the 1st or 2nd option on offense every single game.

-WestBrick: 25/6/10/2 (27 TOs / FG: 37% / TS: 47%)
-Kawhi: 23/7/3/2 (12 TOs / FG: 48% / TS: 55%)

-WB averaged 22 drive per 100 possession in the regular season & 1st rd but against Kawhi he averaged 3 drives per 100 possession: (http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=15472072)

-WB also didn't score a single basket against Kawhi in Gm 2 when OKC stole HCA but let's blame Kawhi's 7/18 night::rolleyes

lV9LRdSLHeQ

Let's see how the original Kawhi (:lolKirby:lol) fared while being asked to be a primary or secondary scoring option while guarding elite scorer for 48 minutes:

2001 Finals:
-Kirby (2nd option & DIDN'T have to guard AI 48 minutes): 24/7/5/1 (18 TOs / FG: 41% / TS: 50%)
-AI aka Original WestBrick (didn't have KD / played 1 on 5): 35/5/3/2 (12 TOs / FG: 40% / TS: 48%)

Yob7Ov9-wW0

2004 Finals:
-Kirby (Wanna be 1st option): 22/2/4/1 (18 TOs / FG: 38% / TS: 45%:lol)
-Rip: 21/5/4 (23 TOs / FG: 40% / TS: 50%)

nhN41MWk8EA

2008 Finals: (**Closest scenario to the OKC series since Kirby couldn't hide on Ray Allen**)
-MVP Kirby (Pau=LMA): 25/4/5/2 (23 TOs / FG: 40% / TS: 50%)
-Pierce: 21/4/6/1 (22 TOs / FG: 43% / TS: 58%)

JkXnQba6Phg

Now, let's put to bed all the Kawhi is "overrated" narratives.:sleep

Whether I totally agree with your takes or not, I make it a point to read them. You have a great memory and you also do great research. This post was terrific. :toast

My hope is that we can reload with some guys next season who can shoot the 3-ball and move the ball with effective passes to get us out of the iso-ball malaise of this season.

tholdren
05-13-2016, 08:42 PM
http://i.imgur.com/NpRAggY.gif
kl going after loose ball tbh

Kawhitstorm
05-13-2016, 08:47 PM
Serious question....if kawhi can't be a superior defender while being a main offense guy....

How do we plan our offense when we know Kawhi won't be there?

I mean do we coach him...go easy on defense? Okay Kyle 20m? Or make him a spot up shooter?

What do you mean by he won't be there: 23/7/3/2 (12 TOs / FG: 48% / TS: 55%) :wakeup

The issue is that he is going to tire out by the 4th quarter if he has to guard an elite scorer every time he's on the floor so you can't expect him to carry you during crunch time. KG had Pierce/Ray Allen who took over in the 4th quarter, Kawhi had Softridge & Porker.:rolleyes

Kawhitstorm
05-13-2016, 10:57 PM
I just wonder where this team would be without Kawhi...

Folks act like Pippen didn't go from winning 3 straight chips to getting bounced in the 2nd rd when Jorn retired. Then Jordan returned in '95 & they lost to the Magic (OKC of the 90s) in the 2nd rd w/ Pippen shooting 40% while matched up against Penny (most athletic PG of the 90s).:lol

tholdren
05-14-2016, 08:58 AM
What do you mean by he won't be there: 23/7/3/2 (12 TOs / FG: 48% / TS: 55%) :wakeup

The issue is that he is going to tire out by the 4th quarter if he has to guard an elite scorer every time he's on the floor so you can't expect him to carry you during crunch time. KG had Pierce/Ray Allen who took over in the 4th quarter, Kawhi had Softridge & Porker.:rolleyes
WAAAHHHHHHH i need more help WAAAHHHHHHHHHH

Trade

Kawhitstorm
05-14-2016, 12:46 PM
WAAAHHHHHHH i need more help WAAAHHHHHHHHHH

:sleep

tholdren
05-14-2016, 12:53 PM
:sleep
Pretty much says it all about your argument. EVERY OTHER NBA FRANCHISE PLAYS THEIR PLAYERS. Yet, only one player, your favorite, can use the excuse that he is too tired? W..... T......F......? Westbrook has an engine that runs about a million times faster and harder than KL every game. He's asked to do A TON more. LeBron. Wade. Those three are their team's best athlete, like KL, but they all have significantly better all around games and are significantly less afraid of taking it to the rim. Only LBJ bitches as much as KL and his fans.

Kawhitstorm
05-14-2016, 01:33 PM
Pretty much says it all about your argument. EVERY OTHER NBA FRANCHISE PLAYS THEIR PLAYERS. Yet, only one player, your favorite, can use the excuse that he is too tired? W..... T......F......? Westbrook has an engine that runs about a million times faster and harder than KL every game. He's asked to do A TON more. LeBron. Wade. Those three are their team's best athlete, like KL, but they all have significantly better all around games and are significantly less afraid of taking it to the rim. Only LBJ bitches as much as KL and his fans.

WestBrick shot 37% while guarding Porker or simply ball-hawking.:lol

Why do you think LeBron doesn't play D until the 4th quarter & Wade would rather freelance rather than chase shooters around the court.:lol

Had Kawhi gotten destroyed 48 to 15 by WestBrick like Kirby did in the 2001 Finals then you would have a point but he essentially outplayed his matchup when you consider BOTH sides of the court. Kawhi murked Barnes & Mr. All-NBA 1st Team (Tony Allen aka the best defender Kirby has faced) when he was able to cruise on defense like Durant did for the majority of the series.

Besides, he outplayed Durant in the 4th quarter of Gm 3/5 & Gm 1/6 were blowouts thus Kawhi won TWO 4th quarter & KD won TWO 4th quarter so they are even but nobody talks about it b/c WestBrick bailed out KD in Gm 5 while Porker completely choked.

DarrinS
05-14-2016, 01:39 PM
WAAAHHHHHHH i need more help WAAAHHHHHHHHHH

Trade


Actually, he's helping out a teammate who is incapable of guarding his counterpart.

bic50
05-14-2016, 02:14 PM
[QUOTE=Dro210;8589181]I think Kawhi fucked throlden's wife and made him watch, tbh tbh

:lol

ajh18
05-14-2016, 02:39 PM
The real irony is the people who badmouth David Robinson to prop Kawhi up, but then use the "he needs more help" excuse in this thread. This Spurs team was so much more stacked than any of those 90s squads, yet people still blame David for not leading us to a title. Kawhi then deserves as much blame or more. He's the star. Comes with the territory.

daslicer
05-14-2016, 02:46 PM
The real irony is the people who badmouth David Robinson to prop Kawhi up, but then use the "he needs more help" excuse in this thread. This Spurs team was so much more stacked than any of those 90s squads, yet people still blame David for not leading us to a title. Kawhi then deserves as much blame or more. He's the star. Comes with the territory.

I definitely agree with you. I think the people who mainly bash David to build up Kawhi are young bandwagon fans who didn't get to watch David play. To them he's an irrelevant historical figure. They have to bash David because they missed out on seeing him play and they have to say Kawhi is going to carry Duncan's torch to make up for the fact they missed out on most of Tim's career.

tholdren
05-14-2016, 02:49 PM
I definitely agree with you. I think the people who mainly bash David to build up Kawhi are young bandwagon fans who didn't get to watch David play. To them he's an irrelevant historical figure. They have to bash David because they missed out on seeing him play and they have to say Kawhi is going to carry Duncan's torch to make up for the fact they missed out on most of Tim's career.
David was 30 times the player KL is.

daslicer
05-14-2016, 02:52 PM
David was 30 times the player KL is.

Agreed David was the reason as a kid I became a Spurs fan way back in March of 1994 after watching him light up a young Shaq.

DarrinS
05-14-2016, 02:59 PM
The real irony is the people who badmouth David Robinson to prop Kawhi up, but then use the "he needs more help" excuse in this thread. This Spurs team was so much more stacked than any of those 90s squads, yet people still blame David for not leading us to a title. Kawhi then deserves as much blame or more. He's the star. Comes with the territory.

Who's badmouthing DRob?

DRob and Tim were both obvious #1 draft picks. People shouldn't be comparing apples and oranges.

If Kawhi is a "star", it's because he worked hard to become great. No one had those expectations from day 1.

Spurtacular
05-14-2016, 03:32 PM
It was a team loss to be sure. But Kawhi needs to learn how to take over on offense if he wants to be MVP.

Spurtacular
05-14-2016, 03:36 PM
Speaking of getting your shit stuffed...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oqIUPBzCh4

Fucking Parker; fucking over the Spurs since....

Obstructed_View
05-14-2016, 04:10 PM
But Danny Green is a better defender than Bruce Bowen, right?

Clipper Nation
05-14-2016, 04:17 PM
The real irony is the people who badmouth David Robinson to prop Kawhi up, but then use the "he needs more help" excuse in this thread. This Spurs team was so much more stacked than any of those 90s squads, yet people still blame David for not leading us to a title. Kawhi then deserves as much blame or more. He's the star. Comes with the territory.
Most of the DRob bashing I've seen has come from Porker fans, tbh. Most notably TheGreatFaggot, who legitimately tried to claim that Avery Johnson was a better player than DRob. Porker fluffers love to bash every great Spur (except for Duncan) in an effort to try to elevate their boy up the list of greatest Spurs ever.

Spurtacular
05-14-2016, 05:07 PM
But Danny Green is a better defender than Bruce Bowen, right?

I wish. But he is one of the top perimeter defenders in the league.

spursistan
05-14-2016, 07:42 PM
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this dude--with a large following-- has been hating on Kawhi (and the spurs) on the cool for quite some time, more so since the series ended..

spursistan
05-14-2016, 07:44 PM
^ forgot to say he is sport representative for pathetic losers like Lillard/Derozan but never open his mouth on them :lol

spursistan
05-14-2016, 07:50 PM
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Thinkin the Spurs still the has nuclear bench of 2014 :lol..Kawhi and LMA has been carrying deadweight since the turn of 2016 and won 67 games while PG couldn't win 45 in the East..

Atl Spur
05-14-2016, 08:12 PM
When this kid get his chance to be the true number one.......watch out!! It's hard to go onto any job and tell the tenured cat times up. Now that he will have free reign, you will see him flourish as much as the this MACHINE called the NBA allows. It is more to sports than what goes on the court.......lots of influences and agendas.

Kawhitstorm
05-14-2016, 08:17 PM
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this dude--with a large following-- has been hating on Kawhi (and the spurs) on the on cool for quite some time, more so since the series ended..

Dude had no response to this:

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spursistan
05-14-2016, 08:19 PM
Dude had no response to this:

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this nate jones guy has been everywhere on spurs twitter the past few days..nigga has his own biases to his clients/guys but love to masquerade as some neutral nba watcher..if Kawhi signs for whatever agency he represents he will be on his knees doing blow jobs 24 a day..

Kawhitstorm
05-14-2016, 08:35 PM
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Thinkin the Spurs still the has nuclear bench of 2014 :lol..Kawhi and LMA has been carrying deadweight since the turn of 2016 and won 67 games while PG couldn't win 45 in the East..

Dude ethered himself w/ that since Paul George was underwhelming in the 2014 ECF & got outplayed by Lance Stephenson in a couple of games when he was an "MVP Candidate". LeBron had his way against him & he went off in Gm 5 when Wade was guarding him, the same Wade that looked washed up in the Finals.

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He followed up that performance by scoring ONE point in the first half Gm 6 where they got run off the gym. He proceeded to pad his stats in garbage time ala Porker in Gm 5 of the '14 Finals.:lol

Otherwise, Lance was their most consistent perform in the first 3 games of the series & he was also the only one that showed up in the 1st half of Gm 6 where PG had one point.:lol

https://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/indiana-pacers-gq-photo-shoot.jpg

:lmao

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Kawhitstorm
05-14-2016, 08:37 PM
this nate jones guy has been everywhere on spurs twitter the past few days..nigga has his own biases to his clients/guys but love to masquerade as some neutral nba watcher..if Kawhi signs for whatever agency he represents he will be on his knees doing blow jobs 24 a day..

Kawhi must have turned down his sister.:lol

In any case, he stopped tweeting BS after I dropped some truth bombs on his feed early this morning.:toast

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K...
05-14-2016, 10:20 PM
Kawhi must have turned down his sister.:lol

In any case, he stopped tweeting BS after I dropped some truth bombs on his feed early this morning.:toast

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post it

ajh18
05-16-2016, 02:05 PM
Who's badmouthing DRob?

Oh I was thinking back to some of the posters in this thread:
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=258834&highlight=Robinson

YGWHI
05-16-2016, 02:25 PM
Oh I was thinking back to some of the posters in this thread:
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=258834&highlight=Robinson

Like I've said before, no one was taking a dig at DRob in that thread.

People can say who played more minutes or took more shots but can't find a disrespectful comment.

SD126
05-18-2016, 12:45 AM
Whole team shit the bed after game 1 per par.