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FuzzyLumpkins
05-15-2016, 01:20 PM
Now it’s the Democratic convention that’s promising to get messy.

After piling up millions of votes and wins in 19 states, Bernie Sanders and his supporters are beginning to lay out their expectations for the Democratic National Convention — and they’re expressing deep frustration with what they see as a wall of party resistance.

The most recent flare-up occurred last week, when Sanders publicly released a letter to Democratic National Committee chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz accusing her of stacking the deck against him on the convention's standing committees. “[W]e are prepared to mobilize our delegates to force as many votes as necessary to amend the platform and rules on the floor of the convention," wrote Sanders, several days after a tense phone conversation with the chairwoman.

According to a Sanders official with knowledge of the call, the senator demanded more representation on the committees but Wasserman Schultz would only assure him that he would have representation. A DNC spokesman declined to characterize the conversation and would only confirm that it took place.

For a party that's anxious to unite all its factions behind likely nominee Hillary Clinton after a long slog of a primary, it was an inauspicious — and worrisome — start.

"I'm surprised and a little bit shocked that the numbers are so few given the nature of the base in the coming decade. This is not necessary," said Madison Mayor Paul Soglin, a Sanders supporter. "In other words, if Hillary Clinton is the nominee, it is not necessary to solidify her election by fashioning a list that's so restrictive."


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/bernie-sanders-dnc-rules-committee-222978#ixzz48kXjFoEc

CosmicCowboy
05-15-2016, 03:29 PM
What a shock. The Democrats don't want a socialist writing their platform.

FuzzyLumpkins
05-15-2016, 03:43 PM
He has ~45% of the popular vote and they are going to shut him out. It isn't a republic or democracy.

Wassserman supports Payday Loans.

CosmicCowboy
05-15-2016, 04:13 PM
He has ~45% of the popular vote and they are going to shut him out. It isn't a republic or democracy.

Wassserman supports Payday Loans.

45% = losing. 50%+= winning. I don't like Hillary, but Loser Bernie doesn't get to write the platform.

Shastafarian
05-15-2016, 04:14 PM
He has ~45% of the popular vote and they are going to shut him out. It isn't a republic or democracy.

Wassserman supports Payday Loans.

Wasserman-Schultz will go down as one of the most inept, and likely corrupt, DNC chairs in modern history. Like you said she has sided with REPUBLICANS on a bill to basically deregulate payday loaners. She refuses to support/endorse democratic candidates in districts where she has republican friends running. She has overseen a boom in the ability of political parties to take in countless millions of dollars and yet her party is in a huge amount of debt. She has been in charge during some of the most blatant and harmful Republican gerrymandering in decades. She's a terrible politician and by all accounts, a terrible person. She is terrible at her job and needs to go.

But she gets a big thumbs up from Obama. Such a disappointment.

FuzzyLumpkins
05-15-2016, 04:15 PM
45% = losing. 50%+= winning. I don't like Hillary, but Loser Bernie doesn't get to write the platform.

All or nothing is a reality of US politics but that doesn't make it justified. I find it to be perhaps the biggest problem as it creates the contentious environment with little incentive to compromise.

boutons_deux
05-15-2016, 05:06 PM
again:

Polls: Sanders has more potential to beat Trump

Recent data show Sanders has double-digit lead in support over Republican candidate while Clinton would face tight race.

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2016/05/polls-sanders-potential-beat-trump-160514170035436.html

boutons_deux
05-15-2016, 05:11 PM
What a shock. The Democrats don't want a socialist writing their platform.

by "socialist", do you mean Marxist/Leninist/USSR socialist?

Here's Bernie's democratic socialist issues.

https://berniesanders.com/issues/

The Dems are just as guilty, at least passively, for letting the VRWC/Repugs fuck over America these past 45 years.

Hillary is making some "progressive" noises about tiny little things while avoiding the Really Big Stuff like BigFinance reform and BigCorp reform, stuff that will probably get into the Dem platform to sucker Bernie supports, but we all know platforms are meaningless after the Pres election.

TheSanityAnnex
05-16-2016, 12:11 AM
She is absolute corrupt garbage. But she was the price Obama paid for Clinton's support in 2008. EVERYTHING she's done has been a complete failure, losing the house and senate being the top two.

She is crony that hooked her wagon to the Clintons party be damned.
Congratulations on your first post actually contributing to s topic and not telling someone to kill themself.

boutons_deux
05-16-2016, 05:08 AM
She is absolute corrupt garbage. But she was the price Obama paid for Clinton's support in 2008. EVERYTHING she's done has been a complete failure, losing the house and senate being the top two.

She is crony that hooked her wagon to the Clintons party be damned.

Talk about original takes, IN YOUR WORDS! wonderful!

ducks
05-16-2016, 10:17 AM
again:

Polls: Sanders has more potential to beat Trump

Recent data show Sanders has double-digit lead in support over Republican candidate while Clinton would face tight race.

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2016/05/polls-sanders-potential-beat-trump-160514170035436.html

the republican think Bernie will be easy to beat and is helping him

CosmicCowboy
05-16-2016, 06:26 PM
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Nbadan
05-19-2016, 11:00 PM
I
n an attempt to head off an ugly conflict at its convention this summer, the Democratic National Committee plans to offer a concession to Sen. Bernie Sanders — seats on a key convention platform committee — but it may not be enough to stop Sanders from picking a fight over the party’s policy positions.

Allies of both Clinton and Sanders have urged Democratic leaders to meet some of Sanders’s more mundane demands for greater inclusion at the Philadelphia convention. Their decision to do so is expected to be finalized by the end of the week, according to two people familiar with the discussions. But growing mistrust between Sanders supporters and party leaders have threatened to undermine that effort.

Even with the committee assignments, Sanders plans an aggressive effort to extract platform concessions on key policies that could prompt divisive battles at a moment when front-runner Hillary Clinton will be trying to unify the party. Among other issues, he plans to push for a $15 national minimum wage and argue that the party needs a more balanced position regarding Israel and Palestinians, according to a Sanders campaign aide who requested anonymity to speak candidly.

Much like their view that the economy has been “rigged” to benefit the wealthy more than the middle and working classes, Sanders supporters have become increasingly convinced that national Democrats have stacked the political deck with rules that have made it difficult for Sanders to win enough delegates to threaten Clinton’s nomination.

More: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/dnc-to-offer-sanders-a-convention-concession/2016/05/19/99706b54-1df4-11e6-8c7b-6931e66333e7_story.html

The DNC & Hillary campaign evidently aren't real big on the idea of even-handedness. They don't want Bernie to have much representation on the Committee's even though he's bringing in millions of new voters. He currently has 3 of his people assigned to a committee and Hillary has the rest. They also have 2 Hillary people assigned as chairs of two important committees who have been hyper-critical of Bernie. That's not even-handedness.

They are even afraid of using the word "even-handed" when it comes to the Palestinians because they are afraid it would signal a shift in their non even-handed policy.

Reck
05-19-2016, 11:34 PM
I

More: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/dnc-to-offer-sanders-a-convention-concession/2016/05/19/99706b54-1df4-11e6-8c7b-6931e66333e7_story.html

The DNC & Hillary campaign evidently aren't real big on the idea of even-handedness. They don't want Bernie to have much representation on the Committee's even though he's bringing in millions of new voters. He currently has 3 of his people assigned to a committee and Hillary has the rest. They also have 2 Hillary people assigned as chairs of two important committees who have been hyper-critical of Bernie. That's not even-handedness.

They are even afraid of using the word "even-handed" when it comes to the Palestinians because they are afraid it would signal a shift in their non even-handed policy.

To be honest the DNC has given in on a lot of Sanders demand. But he keeps wanting more.

Bernie himself is getting power hungry. For someone that's not even a real democrat he's demanding a lot. Take what you can but dont get greedy.

Nbadan
05-19-2016, 11:48 PM
Bernie is as anti-right as you can get and still be viable...in the last few decades the country has been geared to the right by the M$M, Faux News, and right-wing talk radio....sooner or later that political pendulum is gonna swing back to the left, and I think that is what Bernie represents to young voters and your typical motivated liberal voter....even if it means first turning your own party against establishment candidates like Hillary....remember that this is the future voters of the democratic party....

ducks
07-17-2016, 12:27 AM
Hillary bought him not to run green party