2016-17 Draft: Spurs should trade Patty + Kyle/Boris to the Celtics (16th pick)

[TheDoctor]

Do it RC. After two consecutive 1st and 2nd round exits and behind Pop's schtick of "it's just basketball", they gotta feel disappointed and it is time to shake things up. Putting the season in perspective, the 67 wins record was kinda Fool's Gold. Even tho' the team had a historic regular season in terms of their defense, the team was too old to compete vs elite young teams in the Playoffs. So IMO, it would be great if the Spurs pull a trade of Patty Mills plus Kyle/Boris and a future 2nd round pick to the Celtics for the draft rights to the 16th overall pick.

Thoughts?

[Robz4000]

Celtics would never take that deal.

[cd98]

16th pick is a crap shoot. no reason to gamble known quantities for low end lottery picks.

[cjw]

Deal's never happening. Need to hope find some gems late in the 1st/2nd.

Spurs better hope that some of these Europeans pan out. At this point if the Spurs get two of these guys to be rotation players, it goes a long way to filling needs very cheaply and leaving tons of cap space for other roster spots - especially a year from now:

- Milutinov (21)
- LJC (22)
- Bertans (23)
- Dangubic (23)
- Lalanne (24)
- Denmon (26) - doubt he'll ever be good enough to play in league

I've totally written off Richards (25) and Hanga (27) as well as the older guys (30+).

[apalisoc_9]

Deal's never happening. Need to hope find some gems late in the 1st/2nd.

Spurs better hope that some of these Europeans pan out. At this point if the Spurs get two of these guys to be rotation players, it goes a long way to filling needs very cheaply and leaving tons of cap space for other roster spots - especially a year from now:

- Milutinov (21)
- LJC (22)
- Bertans (23)
- Dangubic (23)
- Lalanne (24)
- Denmon (26) - doubt he'll ever be good enough to play in league

I've totally written off Richards (25) and Hanga (27) as well as the older guys (30+).

How's milutonovs rebounding and roll game?

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Who are we drafting at 16 that makes a difference? You have to have a target in mind to traded up for.

[TheGreatYacht]

Bro, we'd be lucky to get the 60th pick for Kyle Anderson

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

If we keep #29, I hope we take Thon Maker. Kid could be a Greek Freak type in 3 years with Spurs developing him.

[Obi Juan Kenobi]

Agreed...don't see Boston making this trade...

[cd98]

Naw Anderson will stick in this league if he can shoot 38% from three point range. He's limited athletically, but he can find a niche. He's no all star, but in a year or two I could see him as a solid rotation player in the NBA.

[Obi Juan Kenobi]

If we keep #29, I hope we take Thon Maker. Kid could be a Greek Freak type in 3 years with Spurs developing him.

Plus he's got a bad ass name!!!

Almost as cool as Max Power...

[cjw]

How's milutonovs rebounding and roll game?

Good defender but not good shot blocker. Probably a little skinny at this point so need to see how he fills out and if body holds up. A few draft previews said he has to work on pick and roll game, but is a good passer. Very big wingspan.

Played about 11 minutes per game in Euroleague this year (18 games) and pulled down 2.7 rebounds. Over 30 minutes, that's close to 8 which isn't bad. Won't be a stiff offensively.

Anyone who's followed him more closely, feel free to chime in.

[TXstbobcat]

The only spur assets that Boston would take for the 16th pick are players that the Spurs would never give up.

[TheGreatYacht]

Kyle Anderson is the Chuck Hayes of Small Forwards. Puts up empty stats but somehow, he's still in the league.

2016 Playoffs:
12.9MPG, 2.3PPG, 2.4RPG, 0.7APG, 32FG%, 7.8PER, 0.0BPM, 0.1WS

[Silver&Black]

Bro, we'd be lucky to get the 60th pick for Kyle Anderson

I would tell the Spurs to fuck off if I was the GM holding the 60th pick.

[TheDoctor]

How's milutonovs rebounding and roll game?
Interesting that when googling "Spurs Roster" Milutinov and Lalanne appear as part of the team (16, 17) respectively.

[TheGreatYacht]

I would tell the Spurs to fuck off if I was the GM holding the 60th pick.
:lol

I would draft a white American in the lottery before I trade for Kyle Anderson, tbqh..

[Silver&Black]

:lol

I would draft a white American in the lottery before I trade for Kyle Anderson, tbqh..

I don't believe you. I know you hate FatHead, but that's just crazy talk right there.

:lol White Americans playing basketball.
:lol Frank "The Tank" Kaminsky

[TheGreatYacht]

I don't believe you. I know you hate FatHead, but that's just crazy talk right there.

:lol White Americans playing basketball.
:lol Frank "The Tank" Kaminsky
:lmao damn you right, fuck that. Nothing worse than that

:lol Sam Dekker

[Ron Swanson]

The only spur assets that Boston would take for the 16th pick are players that the Spurs would never give up.

[TheDoctor]

Who are we drafting at 16 that makes a difference? You have to have a target in mind to traded up for.
Wade Baldwin, a versatile 6'3" PG might be a good candidate for that 16th pick.

Here's draft express scouting video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxI3Ig1-KDM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NG4yFgxA3xg&app=desktop

[Silver&Black]

:lmao damn you right, fuck that. Nothing worse than that

:lol Sam Dekker

Jimmer says, "Hi."

http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/29/files/2015/09/jimmer-fredette-nba-san-antonio-spurs-media-day-300x600.jpg

[TheGreatYacht]

Jimmer says, "Hi."

http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/29/files/2015/09/jimmer-fredette-nba-san-antonio-spurs-media-day-300x600.jpg
The Reno Bighorns D-League basketball team didn't know what hit em :rollin

[Ron Swanson]

Bro, we'd be lucky to get the 60th pick for Kyle Anderson

Maybe if we put that 30 second clip of Anderson playing decent D on KD in Game 1, put it on a loop and super-imposed other NBA stars in place of KD, and tell GMs he has been doing that all season.

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Wade Baldwin, a versatile 6'3" PG might be a good candidate for that 16th pick.

I know about him, but he's a few years away. Rookie PGs are rarely impactful. I'd rather trade for a known NBA quantity like MCW or Collison.

As for the SloMo hate - the kid is fine as a 9th-12th man. He gets better each season. And he's cheap. Give him a break.

[TheGreatYacht]

Maybe if we put that 30 second clip of Anderson playing decent D on KD in Game 1, put it on a loop and super-imposed other NBA stars in place of KD, and tell GMs he has been doing that all season.
:lmao Rockets tried to recruit Bosh by showing him a photoshopped picture of him, Yao, and Aaron Brooks holding a championship

Good idea, these GM's are idiots :tu

[Kikoluna]

16th pick is a crap shoot. no reason to gamble known quantities for low end lottery picks.
kyles well established quantity= CRAP

[cd021]

Better idea would be to trade Diaw to New Orleans for the 36th and 40th picks.

They need a replacement for Anderson. Diaw is sort of a floor spacer (even though his mid range shooting percentage is mediocre and he does not take nearly enough 3's)

I think Gentry was on the coaching staff in Phoenix at the time Diaw was there.

Spurs would have three picks in the top 40,

[spurtech09]

Kyle is not going anywhere.

[Silver&Black]

Maybe if we put that 30 second clip of Anderson playing decent D on KD in Game 1, put it on a loop and super-imposed other NBA stars in place of KD, and tell GMs he has been doing that all season.

I'll allow it, tbh.

[SD126]

Celtics would laugh at this trade suggestion and hang the phone on your ass for this retarded idea.

NEXT....

[SAGirl]

Kyle is not going anywhere.
+2 Too young and still improving. I could see Diaw getting traded though.

[K...]

I'd guess kyle is good for a late late first at least. The league knows the spurs are being patient and everyone said he was worth it when the pick happened. Contrary to retards here, Kyle hasn't done anything to really say he's a bust.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

why, to draft somebody they'll leave in europe for 2 or 3 years?

[SD126]

I'd guess kyle is good for a late late first at least. The league knows the spurs are being patient and everyone said he was worth it when the pick happened. Contrary to retards here, Kyle hasn't done anything to really say he's a bust.

[SD126]

why, to draft somebody they'll leave in europe for 2 or 3 years?

This

[MaNu4Tres]

Diaw/ Mills for Jeff Teague >>

[DPG21920]

I already hate the off season :lol

[LongtimeSpursFan]

Kyle is not going anywhere.

I love Manu but his body just can't do what his mind wants. Kyle is best suited to lead the bench to the style of motion offense that we lacked this year. 20-25 minutes of Kyle = MIP and 12 pts, 7 boards , 5 assists and 1 steal a game.

If he doesn't win MIP next year I will impose a self-ban that I have no intention of keeping.

[Mal]

Nobody is taking Diaw, he could just become lazy fat fuck if not motivated. Nobody is taking such risk.

[cd021]

Diaw/ Mills for Jeff Teague >>

I could possibly see that if ATL is serious about going with Shrouder

Spurs would then have to make the decision of Parker or Teague as a starter. I think that Parker would be best off the bench, he can still play but I think it would be best if he could play more against second units.

[cd021]

Nobody is taking Diaw, he could just become lazy fat fuck if not motivated. Nobody is taking such risk.

$7 million is a drop in the bucket with a cap that could easily reach $90 million. Some team would take that risk. If it does not work then he can be traded or waived to save the team from paying out all of his salary.

[r0drig0lac]

Celtics would laugh at this trade suggestion and hang the phone on your ass for this retarded idea.

NEXT....

[TheDoctor]

Celtics would laugh at this trade suggestion and hang the phone on your ass for this retarded idea.

NEXT....

Here comes the Kyle Nut-Hugging crew. What trade do you think would be a less of a retarded idea? We want to hear it.

[K...]

Here comes the Kyle Nut-Hugging crew. What trade do you think would be a less of a retarded idea? We want to hear it.

from the celts view i'd ask for danny green. Maybe 16 for danny plus spurs first

[TheDoctor]

from the celts view i'd ask for danny green. Maybe 16 for danny plus spurs first

What about Simmons, Danny and the 29th for the 16th and 23rd picks? Celts have 3 picks in the 1st round; 3, 16 and 23.

[Mark Celibate]

Not a bad deal, Diaw is old and Kyle is horribly overrated imho. But I'm not sure if 16th pick makes much sense, I'd prefer a lottery pick at the very least.

[TheDoctor]

Not a bad deal, Diaw is old and Kyle is horribly overrated imho. But I'm not sure if 16th pick makes much sense, I'd prefer a lottery pick at the very least.

Never underestimate the idiocy of GMs :lol
Must of the teams struck-out in the 2011 Draft :toast

BTW, this is the 2016 1st Rnd Order:

1. Philadelphia
2. Los Angeles Lakers
3. Boston (From Brooklyn)
4. Phoenix
5. Minnesota
6. New Orleans
7. Denver (From New York)
8. Sacramento
9. Toronto (From Denver via New York)
10. Milwaukee
11. Orlando
12. Utah
13. Phoenix (From Washington)
14. Chicago
15. Denver (From Houston)
16. Boston (From Dallas)
17. Memphis
18. Detroit
19. Denver (From Portland)
20. Indiana
21. Atlanta
22. Charlotte
23. Boston
24. Philadelphia (From Miami via Cleveland)
25. Los Angeles Clippers
26. Philadelphia (From Oklahoma City via Denver and Cleveland)
27. Toronto
28. Phoenix (From Cleveland via Boston)
29. San Antonio
30. Golden State

[r0drig0lac]

Celtics will not change the 16 by Mills + Diaw, that's all (especially after SAS having achieved Kawhi with pick 15, no GM will make that mistake, especially Ainge).

[TheDoctor]

Now that Philly got the #1 pick overall (Simmons/Ingram) with also having multiple bigs to play, what about this trade at the draft?

Spurs to PHILA:
a)Parker
b)Danny
c)Diaw

PHILA to Spurs:
a)Okafor
b)24th overall Pick

[DPG21920]

No freaking way ^

[Keepin' it real]

why, to draft somebody they'll leave in europe for 2 or 3 years?

yes

[MarCowMar]

Kyle alone is absolutely worth a mid first round pick. He's shown enough to be valued as a rotation player. Most of these picks will be out of the league in a year or two. If you look at the teams at 10-20 a lot of them could use a player like Kyle.

I think the biggest issue the Spurs will have in trying to acquire picks is that no GM wants to be responsible for the next George Hill/Kawhi trade.

[Keepin' it real]

Never underestimate the idiocy of GMs :lol

NBA GMs are smarter than anyone on this or any other fan board. BUT, in context, you do have a point.

You put 30 GMs together (or 30 people in any high-level profession), and they could easily be ranked from 1-30 best, so by default, some will be among the best and some among the worst.

Plus you have to consider the unique situation of each team and each GM. So when someone says "No team will trade for Parker or Diaw, etc" I just laugh. You could always have a lower-third GM outwitted by a top 5 GM, or you could have a GM who is desperate to save his job so he takes a risk.

We all know it's this way, because if not, every team would be a super team. Those GMs aren't stupid. Some of them just appear to be because of what I said above.

[wildbill2u]

Do you have any idea of the value of a 16th pick? There are stats that show the likelihood of a 16 pick making it in the NBA. The odds aren't as good as you might think. Here is a long article by a MIT statistician about draft valuations. It's long and very dense mathematics are drawn from several sources.
Assessing the Relative Value of Draft Position in the NBA Drafthttp://www.82games.com/barzilai1.htm

But here is a portion that may be valuable:
Figure 7: Estimated value of drafting with a given draft pick


Draft Pick
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10


Relative Value
100%
92%
87%
83%
78%
74%
70%
66%
63%
59%




Draft Pick
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20


Relative Value
56%
53%
50%
47%
45%
42%
40%
38%
36%
34%




Draft Pick
21
22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29
30


Relative Value
32%
30%
29%
27%
26%
24%
23%
22%
21%
20%


Table 2: Estimate of relative value of the first 30 draft picks in the NBA draft
Using these results, it is now possible to say that Portland could expect to obtain a player with the 1st pick who is a 35% better player than they could have selected with the 6th pick (1.00/0.74 = 135%). Similarly, by obtaining this year’s 9th pick as part of the Eddy Curry trade, Chicago could expect to draft a player over twice as good as they would have selected with the 23rd pick (0.63/0.29 = 217%). Of course, these expectations are averages, so only time will tell the true relative value of the 2007 draft picks. Tables 3 and 4 (see Appendix) list top and median players drafted in each position for reference.

[hsxvvd]

Now that Philly got the #1 pick overall (Simmons/Ingram) with also having multiple bigs to play, what about this trade at the draft?

Spurs to PHILA:
a)Parker
b)Danny
c)Diaw

PHILA to Spurs:
a)Okafor
b)24th overall Pick



I see it more likely that the 76ers actually pursue Mills now. If they draft Simmons (and they will) Brett Brown's aussie connections with both Mills and Simmons would make Mills an excellent mentor and veteran presence.

We would probably be able to get one of Philadelphia's other first rounders.

[wildbill2u]

http://content.draftexpress.com/gallery/General/1150943300.jpg

[TheDoctor]

No freaking way ^

Why? PHILA needs a true PG and the Spurs a true Centre. Okafor is legit, young (20 y/o), averaged 17pts/7rebs and he's on a rookie contract. The Spurs could fill the PG spot with Conley and the SG spot with Batum. Granted not to a max contract.

PG - Conley
SG - Batum
SF - Kawhi
PF - LMA
C - Okafor

[SAGirl]

Celtics have way too many picks this season. They don't even have spots for all the picks they have so I doubt they take 3 players from us and certainly not Kyle even if they were to like him bc they have too many young dudes as it is, compared to us who only have 1 young dude. I know the Kyle hate crew wants to give him away but he stays put. Celtics would want a veteran so yea maybe they ask for Danny, who again, if we are now a super I bet duper old team why give up Danny one of the few players in his prime we have worth playing.

Bottom line, Spurs are holding on to what young players they have.

The guys we could give up are Mills and Diaw. Personally I think Mills stay put. The only one I see getting waived or traded is Diaw and that would be to a team wanting cap space. Maybe we even waive him ourselves.

[cd021]

from the celts view i'd ask for danny green. Maybe 16 for danny plus spurs first
Green for the 16th would be more than fair, Spurs would not need to include their own pick. Green is much more accomplished than G. Hill was and he netted a 15th pick in what was seen a alright draft (at the time, that draft turned out to be good).

[Horse]

Do it RC. After two consecutive 1st and 2nd round exits and behind Pop's schtick of "it's just basketball", they gotta feel disappointed and it is time to shake things up. Putting the season in perspective, the 67 wins record was kinda Fool's Gold. Even tho' the team had a historic regular season in terms of their defense, the team was too old to compete vs elite young teams in the Playoffs. So IMO, it would be great if the Spurs pull a trade of Patty Mills plus Kyle/Boris and a future 2nd round pick to the Celtics for the draft rights to the 16th overall pick.

Thoughts?

We will never know if the 67 wins was fools gold refs made sure of that.

[r0drig0lac]

Green for the 16th would be more than fair, Spurs would not need to include their own pick. Green is much more accomplished than G. Hill was and he netted a 15th pick in what was seen a alright draft (at the time, that draft turned out to be good).

this would probably work (although the Celtics already have intelligent, Bradley, IT and Rozier), but not worth it for SAS, Danny is already a proven player

[cd021]

I see it more likely that the 76ers actually pursue Mills now. If they draft Simmons (and they will) Brett Brown's aussie connections with both Mills and Simmons would make Mills an excellent mentor and veteran presence.

We would probably be able to get one of Philadelphia's other first rounders. Mills for the 24th or the 26th pick would be alright, assuming we could find a good enough replacement. Would be even better if:

Spurs get
24th pick
26th pick

Philly Gets
Mills
29th pick

but I doubt they would go for that.

[TheDoctor]

http://content.draftexpress.com/gallery/General/1150943300.jpg

Thanks for study and infographics. Interesting info :toast

[Hoops Czar]

Hell to the no if your Boston. 16th pick has more value than Paddy, Kyle and Boris combined.

[still.focused]

Tyler MF Ulis

[RD2191]

Could be a good deal, Boston would get a couple of bench vets with title experience.

[Spurs_619]

Could be a good deal, Boston would get a couple of bench vets with title experience.

:pop: no we are rolling with parker and using all of our cap to give him a raise he deserves it. Head of the snake.

[spursistan]

After the Kawhi heist, every GM will think twice before dealing with RC on draft night .

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

1. Unless there's a specific player the Spurs like, e.g. Kawhi, they wouldn't do this trade for the sake of it, although it depends on what their plan for Boris and his partially guaranteed contract is. So, at best, it's a draft day trade, not now.

2. Boston have too many players and too many picks, they don't need a 1-for-2 trade, they need a many-for-1 trade.

Other than that I don't think they'd value the 16th pick that highly, due to talent decrease after the 7th-8th pick and having too many picks anyway. They'll need to make trades and if they don't strike gold for a star they'll be forced to sell their picks for 50c on the dollar.

[timtonymanu]

:pop: no we are rolling with parker and using all of our cap to give him a raise he deserves it. Head of the snake.

:pop: it's just basketball.

[cd021]

Hell to the no if your Boston. 16th pick has more value than Paddy, Kyle and Boris combined.

Not all drafts are created equally, this draft is not that great. 16th pick is only but so valuable to them. Boston would probably be best suited grabbing rotation players. Mills and Diaw for the 16th, in theory, makes both sense for both teams. Spurs save $11.5 million and pick up a mid round 1st rounder while keeping their own pick. Boston picks up two rotation players with plenty of experience.

[DPG21920]

Not all drafts are created equally, this draft is not that great. 16th pick is only but so valuable to them. Boston would probably be best suited grabbing rotation players. Mills and Diaw for the 16th, in theory, makes both sense for both teams. Spurs save $11.5 million and pick up a mid round 1st rounder while keeping their own pick. Boston picks up two rotation players with plenty of experience.

Boston has a slew of rotation players. They need top heavy talent. They can get a rotation player with way bigger upside by drafting at 16 as well.

[NameLess Scrub]

If we keep #29, I hope we take Thon Maker. Kid could be a Greek Freak type in 3 years with Spurs developing him.

Is that a made up name? A wrestler?


We will never know if the 67 wins was fools gold refs made sure of that.

:lol


Celtics would laugh at this trade suggestion and hang the phone on your ass for this retarded idea.

NEXT....

Why hang it up there? Is there a hang up button on the ass?

[Hoops Czar]

Not all drafts are created equally, this draft is not that great. 16th pick is only but so valuable to them. Boston would probably be best suited grabbing rotation players. Mills and Diaw for the 16th, in theory, makes both sense for both teams. Spurs save $11.5 million and pick up a mid round 1st rounder while keeping their own pick. Boston picks up two rotation players with plenty of experience.

If Paddy and Diaw were so valuable, Spurs fans would want to keep them.:lol What would Boston want with a broken down has-been PF who looks like he doesn't give two shits on the court and an unclutch SG with a broken shot whom can't create offense for his teammates and plays wretched defense? Even if the draft is underwhelming, there's a better chance of finding some youngsters with more upside and potential at a fraction of the cost than bringing in a couple of overused vets that have very little to no upside. Boston is still building for the future so it's probably a best bet they wouldn't want to just throw their pick away.

[BackHome]

Spurs aren't going to get better with draft picks. The only way is to trade players or get rid of bad players

[Tully365]

Why Boston? They have a logjam in the back court, and already have an issue with size & length (Isaiah Thomas at 5'9'/Bradley at 6'2")... I'd think they'd be one of the last teams looking for a SG in a PG's body.

[Kawhitstorm]

Why? PHILA needs a true PG and the Spurs a true Centre. Okafor is legit, young (20 y/o), averaged 17pts/7rebs and he's on a rookie contract. The Spurs could fill the PG spot with Conley and the SG spot with Batum. Granted not to a max contract.

PG - Conley
SG - Batum
SF - Kawhi
PF - LMA
C - Okafor

LMA/Okafor is unplayable against small-ball era.

[Keepin' it real]

Not all drafts are created equally, this draft is not that great.

Then why trade up?

[cd021]

Then why trade up?

Spurs do not need a star in the making, obviously getting one would be great but there are still players in this draft that could be starter material. At 16 that is usually the best case scenario.

If it were Patty and Diaw for the pick straight up then the Spurs would save $11.5 million.

[TheDoctor]

If Paddy and Diaw were so valuable, Spurs fans would want to keep them.:lol What would Boston want with a broken down has-been PF who looks like he doesn't give two shits on the court and an unclutch SG with a broken shot whom can't create offense for his teammates and plays wretched defense? Even if the draft is underwhelming, there's a better chance of finding some youngsters with more upside and potential at a fraction of the cost than bringing in a couple of overused vets that have very little to no upside. Boston is still building for the future so it's probably a best bet they wouldn't want to just throw their pick away.

LMAO Hoops Czar going apeshit on Boris and Patty.

[T Park]

Better idea would be to trade Diaw to New Orleans for the 36th and 40th picks.

They need a replacement for Anderson. Diaw is sort of a floor spacer (even though his mid range shooting percentage is mediocre and he does not take nearly enough 3's)

I think Gentry was on the coaching staff in Phoenix at the time Diaw was there.

Spurs would have three picks in the top 40,


You want to dump a productive forward for 2 second round picks?


Thank fucking god you don't run this team.

[Spurs da champs]

You want to dump a productive forward for 2 second round picks?


Thank fucking god you don't run this team.
:lol

[cd021]

If Paddy and Diaw were so valuable, Spurs fans would want to keep them.:lol What would Boston want with a broken down has-been PF who looks like he doesn't give two shits on the court and an unclutch SG with a broken shot whom can't create offense for his teammates and plays wretched defense? Even if the draft is underwhelming, there's a better chance of finding some youngsters with more upside and potential at a fraction of the cost than bringing in a couple of overused vets that have very little to no upside. Boston is still building for the future so it's probably a best bet they wouldn't want to just throw their pick away.

Boston is at the point where they have made so many first round selections

Bradley
Sullinger
Smart
Rossier
Brooklyn Pick

they either need a star or start cashing in some of their assets for vets to help them compete . This move does that. They Still have a top 7 pick and couple of second rounders, they are not going to be hurting for young prospects.

Using ST as a gauge of a Spurs value :lol
people were burying Manu after the '13 finals before he had a big bounce back season and helped the spurs win a championship.

[cd021]

You want to dump a productive forward for 2 second round picks?


Thank fucking god you don't run this team.

My trade has nothing to do with his actual play it has more to do with the cap. Spurs need to shed his cap to get anywhere near a top FA.

Diaw has apparently fallen out of favor of Pop. His minutes were way down and had DNP for the first time this year in an elimination game vs a team that he killed in '14. I think that the Spurs feel that KA can slide into his role next year and do much of what Diaw did but for a fraction of the price. the 39th and 40th picks would be great returns for a player the Spurs may not even want or need anymore.

[Hoops Czar]

Boston is at the point where they have made so many first round selections

Bradley
Sullinger
Smart
Rossier
Brooklyn Pick

they either need a star or start cashing in some of their assets for vets to help them compete . This move does that. They Still have a top 7 pick and couple of second rounders, they are not going to be hurting for young prospects.

Using ST as a gauge of a Spurs value :lol
people were burying Manu after the '13 finals before he had a big bounce back season and helped the spurs win a championship.

Those so called vets couldn't even help the Spurs get out of the 2nd round. What makes you think they'll be an asset for Boston? I never use Spurstalk as a gauge for anything but you should heed your own advice when the forum cremes to Spurstalk proclaiming Kawhi as a top 2 player in the league. :lol If I've learned anything from spending time here, it's everything posted in this forum should be taken with a grain of salt and 98.5% of the posts don't deserve a second read. This forum is for entertainment purposes only. If you're a fan of bad jokes, outrageous one-sided trade proposals, substandard English and Grammar, trolls, dabom (he deserves his own category), player fans and fake "insider" news and information, this sight is for you.

I do watch the games though and both Boris and Paddy looked awful. The problem with your trade proposal is that your not giving Boston enough incentive to pull the trigger. Maybe the Spurs would need to sweeten the pot by including Bonner and one of Boban or Simmons (over my dead body do they get both). Now, they have a guy in Bonner who can stretch the defense and another in Boban who can touch the rim without leaving the ground.

[tholdren]

Not in this draft. The only thing I would trade this for is Buddy. He's the only player in this draft. The league continues to get weaker with the turds that come out of college. NBA might as well draft out of the local rec leagues.

[TheGreatYacht]

Kyle alone is absolutely worth a mid first round pick. He's shown enough to be valued as a rotation player. Most of these picks will be out of the league in a year or two. If you look at the teams at 10-20 a lot of them could use a player like Kyle.
God damn it bro :lmao

[TheGreatYacht]

This is what will absolutely happen, 100% guaranteed:

1) Spurs will call-up a GM to trade up with
2) The opposing GM will follow along
3) RC will tell the GM what player to draft for him
4) Opposing GM will hang up and keep the player
5) Spurs draft and stash Mirzabojandikembe Motumbobogdanovicteletovic with the #29 pick

[TheDoctor]

This is what will absolutely happen, 100% guaranteed:

1) Spurs will call-up a GM to trade up with
2) The opposing GM will follow along
3) RC will tell the GM what player to draft for him
4) Opposing GM will hang up and keep the player
5) Spurs draft and stash Mirzabojandikembe Motumbobogdanovicteletovic with the #29 pick
Nailed it :lol

[look_at_g_shred]

Could be a good deal, Boston would get a couple of bench vets with title experience.
Patty is trash :wakeup

[DrunkTXLabrat]

yes

Look at the spurs roster. Consider that Manu has been a spur over a decade. How many players represent the success of draft and stash?

[tholdren]

Not in this draft. The only thing I would trade this for is Buddy. He's the only player in this draft. The league continues to get weaker with the turds that come out of college. NBA might as well draft out of the local rec leagues.
See above - shut thread down

[Vito Corleone]

A few years ago, the Spurs traded a role player for what is now a MVP contender and one of the top 5 players in the game. That type of trade gets GMs fired. I highly doubt the Celtics are going to do a trade with San Antonio for a bunch of role players that could come back to bite the GM in the Ass, especially if it means San Antonio gets another young star.

The likelihood of it happening are low, but more likely is the Spurs get a guy that might contribute, but GM's don't see it like that, they think in terms of the Spurs do everything right.

[Spurtacular]

Jimmer says, "Hi."

http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/29/files/2015/09/jimmer-fredette-nba-san-antonio-spurs-media-day-300x600.jpg

Remind me how well the role players shot for the Spurs in the OKC series; how'd they do from threes? You see that three from K-Mart? Ugliest shot I've ever seen. Spurs f'd up. Had a good thing and panicked.

[TheGreatYacht]

Remind me how well the role players shot for the Spurs in the OKC series; how'd they do from threes? You see that three from K-Mart? Ugliest shot I've ever seen. Spurs f'd up. Had a good thing and panicked.
Agreed. Simmons and Dre Miller needed more minutes