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UNT Eagles 2016
05-28-2016, 11:52 PM
I have been feeling some nasty pain that wouldn't go away for awhile from time to time for the past couple years, and often have had frequent urges to pee, waking up to pee etc from time to time. Last night around 9:30 pm I woke up with some of the worst side pain I've ever felt on the right side and was worried about the appendix so I went to the urgent care hospital, got a CT scan, and the doctor said I'm currently passing a medium to large (6-7 mm) calcium stone through the right ureter (the thin tube that transfers urine from the kidneys to the bladder). He said I have 12 total kidney stones in my system at the moment (that he found) but the rest are smaller than the one that was killing me last night and probably won't cause such severe pain like that but will continue to cause nuisance.

Anyone know how to get rid of these without expensive surgery? I need a way to get rid of them ASAP... this is reducing my life quality. Any help?

SpursforSix
05-29-2016, 12:33 AM
I have been feeling some nasty pain that wouldn't go away for awhile from time to time for the past couple years, and often have had frequent urges to pee, waking up to pee etc from time to time. Last night around 9:30 pm I woke up with some of the worst side pain I've ever felt on the right side and was worried about the appendix so I went to the urgent care hospital, got a CT scan, and the doctor said I'm currently passing a medium to large (6-7 mm) calcium stone through the right ureter (the thin tube that transfers urine from the kidneys to the bladder). He said I have 12 total kidney stones in my system at the moment (that he found) but the rest are smaller than the one that was killing me last night and probably won't cause such severe pain like that but will continue to cause nuisance.

Anyone know how to get rid of these without expensive surgery? I need a way to get rid of them ASAP... this is reducing my life quality. Any help?

You probably got an infection from your cheap tampons.

Gummi Clutch
05-29-2016, 12:59 AM
You should get checked out for an underlying abnormality (although most of the time it's just idiopathic hypercalciuria) , what kind of calcium stones were they---oxalate? I'm pretty sure he did a urinalysis and basic metabolic panel, so find out if you have hypercalciuria or hypercalcemia as well.

You can use shock waves to break them up but it is totally dependent on the location and size. Medication also works a bit to make them more soluble but like I stated earlier it is completely dependent on specific parameters. Goto a urologist and get it taken care of. If you've had them a while chances are you've built up some pressure and compromised some renal function, the tests used (Creatinine clearance) aren't really that indicative until >50% of renal function is lost. Having stones up there also puts you at risk for pyelonephritis and ascending UTIs (rare but pretty bad complication).

Gummi Clutch
05-29-2016, 01:01 AM
You should get checked out for an underlying abnormality (although most of the time it's just idiopathic hypercalciuria) , what kind of calcium stones were they---oxalate? I'm pretty sure he did a urinalysis and basic metabolic panel, so find out if you have hypercalciuria or hypercalcemia as well.

You can use shock waves to break them up but it is totally dependent on the location and size. Medication also works a bit to make them more soluble but like I stated earlier it is completely dependent on specific parameters. Goto a urologist and get it taken care of. If you've had them a while chances are you've built up some pressure and compromised some renal function, the tests used (Creatinine clearance) aren't really that indicative until >50% of renal function is lost. Having stones up there also puts you at risk for pyelonephritis and ascending UTIs (rare but pretty bad complication).

And your symptoms (recurring over the past couple of years) are probably due to recurring UTIs, the urgency, nocturia, etc. You're running some mileage on there so its worth getting the referral for the urologist and then talking to him about your options. He might just be able to take care of it with medication and start you on a thiazide (diuretic to decrease calcium on urine) for a while.


Also, stop:

Vitamin C loading (bullshit and useless)
Excessive alcohol intake
Any specific supplements (workout etc related --stop temporarily)

Gummi Clutch
05-29-2016, 01:02 AM
double post.

UNT Eagles 2016
05-29-2016, 02:14 AM
Gummi Clutch I don't drink alcohol for the most part... I have however taken a Vitamin C pill every day throughout college and have seen the amount of colds I have caught and suffered through in college reduced from 28 in my high school years to only 3 in my college years. Of course, also since the week before the first day of my first semester in college, I have also consistently taken Acidophilus probiotic chewables, one Cholest-Off every day with a meal, had more sleep in college than in high school, was older and exposed to older students with more mature immune systems and somewhat better habits, etc.

I don't know which is the factor to go by, but I didn't take a Vitamin C pill today for the first time in years. Also, I stopped taking Vitamin D pills in 2014 after my blood test showed I had a hypercalcemia factor of ~1.0 mm/dl of calcium above the normal upper boundary.

The problem with oxalate stones is that most foods do contain oxalate, especially healthy foods.

UNT Eagles 2016
05-29-2016, 02:15 AM
You probably got an infection from your cheap tampons.

Well I did have some penis pain 5 days before the stones reared their ugly head last night, so that eliminates that.

Gummi Clutch
05-29-2016, 02:55 AM
Gummi Clutch (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=16179) I don't drink alcohol for the most part... I have however taken a Vitamin C pill every day throughout college and have seen the amount of colds I have caught and suffered through in college reduced from 28 in my high school years to only 3 in my college years. Of course, also since the week before the first day of my first semester in college, I have also consistently taken Acidophilus probiotic chewables, one Cholest-Off every day with a meal, had more sleep in college than in high school, was older and exposed to older students with more mature immune systems and somewhat better habits, etc.

I don't know which is the factor to go by, but I didn't take a Vitamin C pill today for the first time in years. Also, I stopped taking Vitamin D pills in 2014 after my blood test showed I had a hypercalcemia factor of ~1.0 mm/dl of calcium above the normal upper boundary.

The problem with oxalate stones is that most foods do contain oxalate, especially healthy foods.
The problem isn't the amount of oxalate really, its allowing it to precipitate. It precipitates at a low pH and that's why one of the problems with Vitamin C loading is the risk of kidney stones. Maybe it worked for you with regards to colds but not a single scientific study backs up its effectiveness. So you need to stop that ASAP, and yea vitamin D supplements are also implicated and probably played a role in snowballing it before you stopped.

To prevent them from precipitating you need to stay hydrated and avoid acidifying your urine with things like Vitamin C supps. Stay hydrated until you see your Urologist and you that will relieve your symptoms a great deal.

If you get flank pain (lower back on each lateral side) go to the ER asap, as that is a sign of acute kidney injury/infection.

Hope that helps, thats the most you can do before seeing the Urologist and the most I can offer through a computer screen. Stay healthy my friend.

UNT Eagles 2016
05-29-2016, 03:03 AM
The problem isn't the amount of oxalate really, its allowing it to precipitate. It precipitates at a low pH and that's why one of the problems with Vitamin C loading is the risk of kidney stones. Maybe it worked for you with regards to colds but not a single scientific study backs up its effectiveness. So you need to stop that ASAP, and yea vitamin D supplements are also implicated and probably played a role in snowballing it before you stopped.

To prevent them from precipitating you need to stay hydrated and avoid acidifying your urine with things like Vitamin C supps. Stay hydrated until you see your Urologist and you that will relieve your symptoms a great deal.

If you get flank pain (lower back on each lateral side) go to the ER asap, as that is a sign of acute kidney injury/infection.

Hope that helps, thats the most you can do before seeing the Urologist and the most I can offer through a computer screen. Stay healthy my friend.

Won't be able to see urologist in 2016 because my insurance only allows for 3 office visits and I used 2 on a specialist early in February about a hernia that wasn't one (was only 1 but they charged me for 2 even though the second was a follow-up, still upset over that) and the final one on last night's urgent care office visit.


Things like the example in the paragraph I just wrote is why everyone tends to hate America. Canada >>>

Gummi Clutch
05-29-2016, 03:17 AM
Won't be able to see urologist in 2016 because my insurance only allows for 3 office visits and I used 2 on a specialist early in February about a hernia that wasn't one (was only 1 but they charged me for 2 even though the second was a follow-up, still upset over that) and the final one on last night's urgent care office visit.


Things like the example in the paragraph I just wrote is why everyone tends to hate America. Canada >>>
if not a specialist goto a primary care physician (out of pocket even) and get a prescription for medical nephrolithiasis treatment If you're still in college goto your school clinic even.

TDMVPDPOY
05-29-2016, 05:37 AM
is 3 visits per year starting from date u sign up for ur policy? or its 3 per financial year? if its 3 per financial year, then...wait for first day of july of new financial year calender

thispego
05-29-2016, 09:50 AM
Hahaha fuckin UNT is gold :lol he had exactly 28 colds through high school :rollin

SpursforSix
05-29-2016, 12:52 PM
Well I did have some penis pain 5 days before the stones reared their ugly head last night, so that eliminates that.

Whose penis gave you the pain? Maybe find a smaller man or use some lube.

InRareForm
05-29-2016, 01:05 PM
THere is a kidney stone thread maybe 2 years ago you should find.

I drink lemonade on a weekly basis because its helps the chance of not getting kidney stones. The acid helps breaks up the starting point of the stone.

I hear if it is big enough it is more painful than giving birth .

SpursforSix
05-29-2016, 01:44 PM
THere is a kidney stone thread maybe 2 years ago you should find.

I drink lemonade on a weekly basis because its helps the chance of not getting kidney stones. The acid helps breaks up the starting point of the stone.

I hear if it is big enough it is more painful than giving birth .

The citric acid reduced your uric acid levels. Which prevents uric acid buildup and kidney stones.

Gummi Clutch
05-29-2016, 02:11 PM
The citric acid reduced your uric acid levels. Which prevents uric acid buildup and kidney stones.
:lmao

SpursforSix
05-29-2016, 04:48 PM
:lmao

What? Did you just notice your penis?

UNT Eagles 2016
05-30-2016, 12:27 AM
is 3 visits per year starting from date u sign up for ur policy? or its 3 per financial year? if its 3 per financial year, then...wait for first day of july of new financial year calender

Calendar year, from January

Hahaha fuckin UNT is gold :lol he had exactly 28 colds through high school :rollin
It's true. I was a sick fuck in HS, a lot less my senior year though (25 out of the 28 colds happened in grades 9-11)... JP Stevens HS on Ellison Rd. probably still reeks of the green stuff that came out of my throat

:lmao

Is that not true? I've actually read from other sources that lemonade is good for that reason. It's horrid for your teeth, though, so you better drink out of a straw, and it's also bad if you're trying to gain weight because the citric acid dissolves the food.

Trainwreck2100
05-30-2016, 12:39 AM
:lol od'ing on vitamin c
:lol not taking zinc

learn to science

Aztecfan03
05-30-2016, 01:30 AM
Won't be able to see urologist in 2016 because my insurance only allows for 3 office visits and I used 2 on a specialist early in February about a hernia that wasn't one (was only 1 but they charged me for 2 even though the second was a follow-up, still upset over that) and the final one on last night's urgent care office visit.


Things like the example in the paragraph I just wrote is why everyone tends to hate America. Canada >>>

Canada's system is like the VA's. You never get in.

DMC
05-30-2016, 02:29 AM
Comes from welching

UNT Eagles 2016
05-30-2016, 03:13 AM
:lol od'ing on vitamin c
:lol not taking zinc

learn to science
Too much zinc is bad for your immune system (unlike vitamin C which is a known immune stalwart). Zinc is good for your sex drive, though :lol

Xevious
05-30-2016, 04:19 AM
How about you stop taking OTC supplements all together. Everything you need is in a healthy diet.

And I would check on your insurance. Only three office visits sounds like bullshit. Many people follow multiple specialists, and an urgent care visit is not the same as an office visit. I don't know what kind of insurance/policy you have, but like I said I would double check it.

Thebesteva
05-30-2016, 04:48 AM
I would give you free medical advice but I'm just a nurse

LittleCriminal
05-30-2016, 10:42 AM
Internet Doctors... Lol

Gummi Clutch
05-30-2016, 01:00 PM
Calendar year, from January

It's true. I was a sick fuck in HS, a lot less my senior year though (25 out of the 28 colds happened in grades 9-11)... JP Stevens HS on Ellison Rd. probably still reeks of the green stuff that came out of my throat


Is that not true? I've actually read from other sources that lemonade is good for that reason. It's horrid for your teeth, though, so you better drink out of a straw, and it's also bad if you're trying to gain weight because the citric acid dissolves the food.
You don't want to acidify your urine period, especially right now. If you had for example struvite or other type of stones than an alkaline pH would be bad and acidic would be good for you. Uric acid is somethign you don't worry about unless you have gout, leukemia, high blood levels and stones from UA are uncommon.

z0sa
05-30-2016, 05:42 PM
More water, less protein and fats.