Curry is going to lose FMVP again

[apalisoc_9]

One of the worst Confrence finals-Finals performers among the top 18 players of all time.

His team basically varried his ass to the finals and now soon to be champion.

[Spurs_619]

Hes a choker getting bailed out everytime SMH... not even top 5 tbh

[spursistan]

dude is also benficiary one of the most stacked team I've ever seen..they have fuckin 4 legit playmakers outside of him and 5 or 6 two-way players around him along with a top 5 all-time shooter :lol

[K...]

booo hoo waaaah boo hoooo

haterz gonna cry about it







Curry won't care. The all time greats don't. Kobe cared andthat's why he's not an all time great.

[Thread]

booo hoo waaaah boo hoooo

haterz gonna cry about it







Curry won't care. The all time greats don't. Kobe cared andthat's why he's not an all time great.

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 2nd 5th

[Kawhitstorm]

dude is also benficiary one of the most stacked team I've ever seen..they have fuckin 4 legit playmakers outside of him and 5 or 6 two-way players around him along with a top 5 all-time shooter :lol

At least Curry has gravity & draws defenders even when he's bricking, it's Klay that's the luckiest so called "best 2-guard" in the league in NBA history. Even Livingston said Curry/Iggy/Gaymond are the most important player on the team.:lol

[Robz4000]

Dubs might just be in trouble next season/the season after when they lose a good amount of this depth.

[K...]

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 2nd 5th

Kobe 104 (actors credits) 5 (championships)

Curry 1

[Thread]

Kobe 104 (actors credits) 5 (championships)

Curry 1

The players don't even respect Duncan because of his homosexuality. They have to toe the company line, but, they know he's got an ass full of cock and won't give him the time of day.

If Duncan were straight you'd have at least 8 and Duncan's kids wouldn't have a Mexican dad.

[Clipper Nation]

:lol Dude really is the new Kobe, a chucker who gets bailed out by stacked teams and gets all the credit from Media. Put Westbrook on that team instead of Curry and they sweep through the playoffs with ease.

[Thread]

:lol Dude really is the new Kobe, a chucker who gets bailed out by stacked teams and gets all the credit from Media. Put Westbrook on that team instead of Curry and they sweep through the playoffs with ease.

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 2nd 5th

[Clipper Nation]

Kobe: 5

the tired old shit bag Duncan: 2nd 5th

Duncan: 5

the tired old shit bag Kobe: 3rd 4th*

*0 & forever as the alpha

[LkrFan]

Duncan: 5

the tired old shit bag Kobe: 3rd 4th*

*0 & forever as the alpha
Spur Nation with the bads :lol

[Thread]

Duncan: 5

the tired old shit bag Kobe: 3rd 4th*

*0 & forever as the alpha

Now you're being an asshole.

[spursistan]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cj_2pclWgAA2LBZ.jpg:large

[Clipper Nation]

Now you're being an asshole.

lmcontrollinao!!!

[Thread]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cj_2pclWgAA2LBZ.jpg:large

All you had to do was beat OKC and you'd be right fucking there. Instead, you're face ass down in the sour grapes.

[Bynumite]

:lol Dude really is the new Kobe, a chucker who gets bailed out by stacked teams and gets all the credit from Media. Put Westbrook on that team instead of Curry and they sweep through the playoffs with ease.

That's 2/7 talking.

Still waiting on Lebeta having more FMVP's than Kobe for how long? :lmao

[DMC]

All you had to do was beat OKC and you'd be right fucking there. Instead, you're face ass down in the sour grapes.
Had you not run Daddy off you'd never speak of 5 -2nd 5th because there would be no need to.

[DMC]

They beat Curry up pretty well tonight. James man handled him. That's fine. If it gets them to the ring, so be it. Frodo had to be carried by Sam.

[midnightpulp]

It's amazing how big time the Warriors role-players are. I wrote off Barbosa, Livingston, Barnes as shaky earlier in the season, but boy have they flourished. Hope Patty, Fat Ass, and Fat Head are taking notes.

[Stalin]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cj_2pclWgAA2LBZ.jpg:large


:lol Today's NBA.

[spursistan]

It's amazing how big time the Warriors role-players are. I wrote off Barbosa, Livingston, Barnes as shaky earlier in the season, but boy have they flourished. Hope Patty, Fat Ass, and Fat Head are taking notes.
lol the Co-shitty members can only dream of this..this team is disgustingly stacked..
..
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkANkeKVEAENjpE.jpg

[AlexJones]

So many awful takes in here

[AlexJones]

lol the Co-shitty members can only dream of this..this team is disgustingly stacked..
..
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkANkeKVEAENjpE.jpg

:lmao clearly Shaun Livingston's 1 good game can make us ignore his career 12.8 PER, .526 TS%, -1.5 BPM. Nice sample size of 1 you got there, clown

[Thebesteva]

As long as Lebron doesnt ring

[spurraider21]

2014 NBA Finals

Kawhi game 1: 9 points, 3-5 shooting, 2 rebounds, 0 assists, 4 turnovers

Kawhi game 2: 9 points, 3-9 shooting, 2 rebounds, 3 assists, fouled out


end result, finals MVP

[TampaDude]

2014 NBA Finals

Kawhi game 1: 9 points, 3-5 shooting, 2 rebounds, 0 assists, 4 turnovers

Kawhi game 2: 9 points, 3-9 shooting, 2 rebounds, 3 assists, fouled out


end result, finals MVP

Yup...because the Finals isn't over after one or two games.

[Obstructed_View]

I'm sure he'll be all broken up about having to celebrate his second title without it.

[djohn2oo8]

So many awful takes in here

Mostly from niggas who have never played a sport. Its awful.

[Brazil]

:lol so this board is what matters is winning one day the other it is :cry but but dude had bad stats.... who gives a shit ? Curry drew defensive focus, Cavs made it clear they won't be beaten by Curry, rest of the team stepped up, what's wrong with that ? This just demonstrates Curry is not a chucker and is willing to do anything to win

[soxxx]

See the thing is, everyone gives curry all the credit and praise, its a an absolute disrespect to the rest of the team. He is not as important as star players are to other teams. The Warriors would win a lot without him, and showed they could win playoff series without him. I mean what other Superstar can you say the same of?

[Thread]

See the thing is, everyone gives curry all the credit and praise, its a an absolute disrespect to the rest of the team. He is not as important as star players are to other teams. The Warriors would win a lot without him, and showed they could win playoff series without him. I mean what other Superstar can you say the same of?

They obviously see thru the pure shit that Media spews forth. Perhaps they had a sit, a sit early on where they settled it. There is no pretense, the camera would find it, but, it is simply not there. When one fails like last nite the others come to the fore like last nite and the one who fails permits it. Then when he can function once again and does it's decimating, like last nite.

Bully, bully for them. That, THAT, that is how team works, anywhere that man dwells.

[K...]

See the thing is, everyone gives curry all the credit and praise, its a an absolute disrespect to the rest of the team. He is not as important as star players are to other teams. The Warriors would win a lot without him, and showed they could win playoff series without him. I mean what other Superstar can you say the same of?

No, no one is over rating curry. It's not like we didn't see last years finals. Small players are the easiest to shut down, but doing so requires allocating focus. This is a lot like prime Tony Parker. If the spurs had role players that didn't drop their balls in the playoffs the spurs could have won a few more series.


At no time were the warriors losing in this game. The okc series already proved warriors are legit. Whether the sweep or it goes seven, this team will go down as the best since the shaq Lakers.

[Thread]

No, no one is over rating curry. It's not like we didn't see last years finals. Small players are the easiest to shut down, but doing so requires allocating focus. This is a lot like prime Tony Parker. If the spurs had role players that didn't drop their balls in the playoffs the spurs could have won a few more series.


At no time were the warriors losing in this game. The okc series already proved warriors are legit. Whether the sweep or it goes seven, this team will go down as the best since the shaq Lakers.

The kicker? That SOB was Suns property. Yes, for about 10 minutes. Kerr arranged that trade and then Nelson reneged.

After Amy Duncan it was the most important stabbing of a back I've experienced.

[ambchang]

The players don't even respect Duncan because of his homosexuality. They have to toe the company line, but, they know he's got an ass full of cock and won't give him the time of day.

If Duncan were straight you'd have at least 8 and Duncan's kids wouldn't have a Mexican dad.

So now it's about hypotheticals instead of making the playoffs and winning the last game you play?

[JamStone]

No, no one is over rating curry. It's not like we didn't see last years finals.

Steph had a great Finals last year outside of one game, game 5. He deserved the Finals MVP last year over Iguodala. Still shot 44% from the field and 39% from three despite a 5-for-23 FG, 2-for-15 3P game 5 performance. Shot a combined 48% from the field, 46% from three in the other 5 games. Game 5 really was the only game he had a bad shooting game, albeit a horrifically bad shooting game. Still put up assists, rebounds, and steals. 26, 6, and 5 isn't getting shut down.

Iguodala had a great Finals too. Steph deserved the FMVP last year.

[spurraider21]

Yup...because the Finals isn't over after one or two games.
Zactly

[Kawhitstorm]

Steph had a great Finals last year outside of one game, game 5. He deserved the Finals MVP last year over Iguodala. Still shot 44% from the field and 39% from three despite a 5-for-23 FG, 2-for-15 3P game 5 performance. Shot a combined 48% from the field, 46% from three in the other 5 games. Game 5 really was the only game he had a bad shooting game, albeit a horrifically bad shooting game. Still put up assists, rebounds, and steals. 26, 6, and 5 isn't getting shut down.

Iguodala had a great Finals too. Steph deserved the FMVP last year.

Everyone on the team was getting destroyed by LeBron besides Iggy who held him to 39% shooting meanwhile Curry got cooked by Delly in a Gm 3 loss.:lol

Considering LeBron was a one man wrecking crew, slowing him down in pretty significant.

[JamStone]

Everyone on the team was getting destroyed by LeBron besides Iggy who held him to 39% shooting meanwhile Curry got cooked by Delly in a Gm 3 loss.:lol

Considering LeBron was a one man wrecking crew, slowing him down in pretty significant.

Yeah Delladova had a good offensive game in game 3. Curry still had a better one. If you let a scrub like Delladova drop 20 on you, you better make up for it on the other end. Steph did his share offensively. Draymond and Harrison Barnes shot 2-for-18 that game. Barnes went scoreless. In a 5 point game, put more blame on them than the guy who dropped 27, 6, and 6.

I said Iguodala had a great Finals. He still didn't earn the Finals MVP. Him winning it would have been akin to Robert Horry winning the 2005 Finals MVP over Duncan (actually Manu probably deserved it the most over either). Horry was probably the biggest difference in that series. But he was still a role player. He still didn't put up the overall production Duncan did. But you could argue he was the difference and the most valuable player of that Finals.

[InRareForm]

I swear Livingston is automatic from the midrange near the key.. Mofo don't miss

[Thread]

I swear Livingston is automatic from the midrange near the key.. Mofo don't miss

He's getting an undisturbed look at the cylinder. Can you imagine it?

[Kawhitstorm]

Yeah Delladova had a good offensive game in game 3. Curry still had a better one. If you let a scrub like Delladova drop 20 on you, you better make up for it on the other end. Steph did his share offensively. Draymond and Harrison Barnes shot 2-for-18 that game. Barnes went scoreless. In a 5 point game, put more blame on them than the guy who dropped 27, 6, and 6.

I said Iguodala had a great Finals. He still didn't earn the Finals MVP. Him winning it would have been akin to Robert Horry winning the 2005 Finals MVP over Duncan (actually Manu probably deserved it the most over either). Horry was probably the biggest difference in that series. But he was still a role player. He still didn't put up the overall production Duncan did. But you could argue he was the difference and the most valuable player of that Finals.

It wasn't like Sheed was a one man wrecking crew & Horry slowed him down.:lol Horry had an epic 15 minute stretch in the 2005 Finals similar to what Klay had in Gm 6 of the WCF.

Despite having only the 8th highest USG%, Iggy was 2nd in points, 2nd in total rebounds, 2nd in three pointers made, 3rd in assists/steals & had the best TS% on the team. He also had the best ORtg on the team & the best DRtg among the wing defenders. He was more like Manu than Horry.:rolleyes

[Kawhitstorm]

I swear Livingston is automatic from the midrange near the key.. Mofo don't miss

...except when Waiters was bodying him up & not letting him get to his spots.:lol

[JamStone]

It wasn't like Sheed was a one man wrecking crew & Horry slowed him down.:lol Horry had an epic 15 minute stretch in the 2005 Finals similar to what Klay had in Gm 6 of the WCF.

Despite having only the 8th highest USG%, Iggy was 2nd in points, 2nd in total rebounds, 2nd in three pointers made, 3rd in assists/steals & had the best TS% on the team. He also had the best ORtg on the team & the best DRtg among the wing defenders. He was more like Manu than Horry.:rolleyes

Horry didn't just have game 5. He was huge in game 7 as well, the deciding game, when Duncan was putting up a Kobeesque 10-for-27 from the field. Horry helped right the offense in the first quarter and helped seal the game with some huge rebounds and free throws in the 4th quarter. Horry didn't have great overall production, but he was still one of the biggest differences in the series.

I wasn't looking at ranks. Iggy may have been second in scoring, but he was bunched up with Klay and Draymond, all well behind Steph's scoring output.

For that Finals, scoring for Golden State:

Steph 26 PPG
Iguodala 16.3 PPG
Klay 15.8 PPG
Draymond 13 PPG

So you can say he was second in points, but when the first is so far out ahead, it means much less.

Similarly for the 2005 Finals, Duncan averaged 20.6 PPG and Horry 10.6 PPG.

Both Iguodala and Horry are/were role players, secondary players, complementary players. Call them supersubs. Call them among the best 6th men. They're still role players.


And all of those ranks only further support the notion that Curry should have been Finals MVP. Who was first in points? Curry, First in assists? Curry, Oh, first in steals as well? Curry. And the rebounding difference (35 for Iguodala, 31 for Curry) wasn't much of a difference.

Iguodala was awarded the FMVP because his albeit great production was unexpected and Curry had one bad game. Still doesn't make sense to me.

[DAF86]

Warriors would already be fishing if not for Curry. :lol

[~O~]

It doesn't really matter. He's going to have to play decoy this series like he's always had to these past two years. Curry and Thompson are there to spread the floor consequential shooting. The consequence being a high percentage three wide ope for the leagues best two shooters. If it loses him a finals MVP, so be it. Someone on GOlden State will get it and he'll get a title to add to his second MVP.

[DAF86]

And yeah, he should have won finals MVP last year.

[Kawhitstorm]

Horry didn't just have game 5. He was huge in game 7 as well, the deciding game, when Duncan was putting up a Kobeesque 10-for-27 from the field. Horry helped right the offense in the first quarter and helped seal the game with some huge rebounds and free throws in the 4th quarter. Horry didn't have great overall production, but he was still one of the biggest differences in the series.

Curry was going up against Delly, Iggy was going up against Bron, Tim was going against the Big Ben, Horry was going up against Sheed/McDyess.:lol (It was Curry that ended up making Delly a household name)

Iggy matched Curry in the closeout game & Tim took over in the 2nd half, which was what sealed the deal.

[JamStone]

Curry was going up against Delly, Iggy was going up against Bron, Tim was going against the Big Ben, Horry was going up against Sheed/McDyess.:lol (It was Curry that ended up making Delly a household name)

Iggy matched Curry in the closeout game & Tim took over in the 2nd half, which was what sealed the deal.

Duncan went 6-for-18 in the 2nd half, and down the stretch he didn't seal the game. Duncan scored 17 points on 18 shots. He took 18 shots! 33% from the field for a big man. Took over in the 2nd half? Took over all the shot attempts. He also had four turnovers by himself in the 2nd half alone. Took over in the 2nd half? Duncan deserved the FMVP over Horry because of the overall production throughout the series. But Horry was a major difference maker in games 5 and 7... as a ROLE PLAYER.

Horry and Iguodala share the same type of defensive attention in that guys like Duncan and Curry get all the defensive focus from the other team. And that's why role players can have some big scoring nights. My point about Horry remains the same. He was probably the difference in the series. But I still DO NOT give him the FMVP over Duncan or Ginobili because he's a role player whose overall Finals series production still paled in comparison. Same way I feel about Iguodala. He was great. And his defense was awesome. And his unexpected production offensively was a major difference in the series last year. I still don't give him the FMVP over Curry. Being the second leading scorer for the Warriors last year, the difference wasn't 1-2 points like it was between Duncan and Ginobili in 2005. There's a 10 point difference in scoring between Curry and Iguodala. That's significant. Significant enough that you can't give it to Iguodala. Curry 26, 5, and 6. Iguodala 16, 6, and 4. It's not like Iguodala was putting up 16, 10, 10 to make up for the scoring difference. The other numbers pretty much cancel each other out. But the scoring difference alone gives Curry the FMVP for me.

[Kawhitstorm]

Curry 26, 5, and 6. Iguodala 16, 6, and 4. It's not like Iguodala was putting up 16, 10, 10 to make up for the scoring difference. The other numbers pretty much cancel each other out. But the scoring difference alone gives Curry the FMVP for me.

Had Curry put up 26, 5, 6 guarding Kyrie or absolutely destroyed Delly then he would have won the FMVP.:lol (Porker won FMVP in 2007 b/c he destroyed Boobie Gibson)

[Kawhitstorm]

Duncan went 6-for-18 in the 2nd half, and down the stretch he didn't seal the game. Duncan scored 17 points on 18 shots. He took 18 shots! 33% from the field for a big man. Took over in the 2nd half?.

The Pistons were trying to pull away in the 3rd quarter but Tim had other idea::rolleyes



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T. Duncan (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/duncati01.html) makes free throw 1 of 1


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B. Wallace (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wallabe01.html) misses 2-pt shot from 2 ft (block by R. Horry (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/horryro01.html))

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M. Ginobili (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/ginobma01.html) makes 2-pt shot from 1 ft


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Detroit full timeout

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A. McDyess (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/mcdyean01.html) makes 2-pt shot from 20 ft (assist by C. Billups (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/billuch01.html))
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B. Wallace (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wallabe01.html) misses free throw 1 of 2

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Offensive rebound by Team

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B. Wallace (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wallabe01.html) misses free throw 2 of 2

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T. Duncan (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/duncati01.html) misses 2-pt shot from 6 ft


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T. Prince (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/princta01.html) makes 2-pt shot from 15 ft
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L. Hunter (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hunteli01.html) enters the game for A. McDyess (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/mcdyean01.html)

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R. Hamilton (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hamilri01.html) misses 2-pt shot from 16 ft

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L. Hunter (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hunteli01.html) misses 2-pt shot from 11 ft

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T. Duncan (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/duncati01.html) misses 2-pt shot from 9 ft (block by B. Wallace (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wallabe01.html))


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[Killakobe81]

Duncan went 6-for-18 in the 2nd half, and down the stretch he didn't seal the game. Duncan scored 17 points on 18 shots. He took 18 shots! 33% from the field for a big man. Took over in the 2nd half? Took over all the shot attempts. He also had four turnovers by himself in the 2nd half alone. Took over in the 2nd half? Duncan deserved the FMVP over Horry because of the overall production throughout the series. But Horry was a major difference maker in games 5 and 7... as a ROLE PLAYER.

Horry and Iguodala share the same type of defensive attention in that guys like Duncan and Curry get all the defensive focus from the other team. And that's why role players can have some big scoring nights. My point about Horry remains the same. He was probably the difference in the series. But I still DO NOT give him the FMVP over Duncan or Ginobili because he's a role player whose overall Finals series production still paled in comparison. Same way I feel about Iguodala. He was great. And his defense was awesome. And his unexpected production offensively was a major difference in the series last year. I still don't give him the FMVP over Curry. Being the second leading scorer for the Warriors last year, the difference wasn't 1-2 points like it was between Duncan and Ginobili in 2005. There's a 10 point difference in scoring between Curry and Iguodala. That's significant. Significant enough that you can't give it to Iguodala. Curry 26, 5, and 6. Iguodala 16, 6, and 4. It's not like Iguodala was putting up 16, 10, 10 to make up for the scoring difference. The other numbers pretty much cancel each other out. But the scoring difference alone gives Curry the FMVP for me.

Curry easily could have MVP last year and probably should have been ...
As Manu could have been in 2005 ...
Honestly it's not a huge deal either way ...on this board we seem to care though ...

[Kawhitstorm]

0:36.9
C. Billups (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/billuch01.html) misses 2-pt shot from 4 ft (block by T. Duncan (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/duncati01.html))

55-57




0:36.9
Offensive rebound by Team

55-57




0:28.6
Turnover by Team (shot clock)

55-57




0:07.9


55-57

T. Parker (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/parketo01.html) misses 3-pt shot from 25 ft


0:07.4
Defensive rebound by Team

55-57




0:00.9
L. Hunter (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hunteli01.html) makes 2-pt shot from 20 ft (assist by T. Prince (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/princta01.html))
+2
57-57




0:00.3


57-57

Turnover by M. Ginobili (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/ginobma01.html) (lost ball; steal by L. Hunter (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hunteli01.html))


0:00.0
End of 3rd quarter


4th Quarter (Back to Top (http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/pbp/200506230SAS.html#pbp))


Time
Detroit
Score
San Antonio


12:00.0
Start of 4th quarter


11:41.0


57-57

Turnover by T. Duncan (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/duncati01.html) (lost ball; steal by B. Wallace (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wallabe01.html))


11:24.0
L. Hunter (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hunteli01.html) misses 2-pt shot from 22 ft

57-57




11:22.0


57-57

Defensive rebound by M. Ginobili (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/ginobma01.html)


11:15.0


57-59
+2
T. Duncan (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/duncati01.html) makes 2-pt shot from 1 ft (assist by B. Barry (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/barrybr01.html))


10:50.0
R. Hamilton (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hamilri01.html) misses 2-pt shot from 13 ft

57-59

[JamStone]

The Pistons were trying to pull away in the 3rd quarter but Tim had other idea::rolleyes



6:18.0


48-43
+2
T. Duncan (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/duncati01.html) makes 2-pt shot from 4 ft


6:18.0


48-43

Offensive rebound by T. Duncan (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/duncati01.html)


6:18.0


48-43

Shooting foul by A. McDyess (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/mcdyean01.html)


6:18.0


48-44
+1
T. Duncan (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/duncati01.html) makes free throw 1 of 1


6:07.0
B. Wallace (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wallabe01.html) misses 2-pt shot from 2 ft (block by R. Horry (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/horryro01.html))

48-44




6:04.0


48-44

Defensive rebound by M. Ginobili (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/ginobma01.html)


5:59.0


48-46
+2
M. Ginobili (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/ginobma01.html) makes 2-pt shot from 1 ft


5:55.0
Detroit full timeout

48-46




5:34.0
A. McDyess (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/mcdyean01.html) makes 2-pt shot from 20 ft (assist by C. Billups (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/billuch01.html))
+2
50-46




5:15.0


50-46

Turnover by T. Duncan (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/duncati01.html) (3 sec)


4:58.0
Shooting foul by T. Duncan (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/duncati01.html)

50-46




4:58.0
B. Wallace (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wallabe01.html) misses free throw 1 of 2

50-46




4:58.0
Offensive rebound by Team

50-46




4:58.0
B. Wallace (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wallabe01.html) misses free throw 2 of 2

50-46




4:56.0


50-46

Defensive rebound by B. Bowen (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bowenbr01.html)


4:40.0


50-46

T. Duncan (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/duncati01.html) misses 2-pt shot from 6 ft


4:38.0
Defensive rebound by A. McDyess (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/mcdyean01.html)

50-46




4:22.0
T. Prince (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/princta01.html) makes 2-pt shot from 15 ft
+2
52-46




4:01.0


52-46

Shooting foul by A. McDyess (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/mcdyean01.html)


4:01.0


52-46

T. Parker (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/parketo01.html) enters the game for M. Ginobili (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/ginobma01.html)


4:01.0
L. Hunter (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hunteli01.html) enters the game for A. McDyess (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/mcdyean01.html)

52-46




4:01.0


52-47
+1
T. Duncan (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/duncati01.html) makes free throw 1 of 2


4:01.0


52-48
+1
T. Duncan (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/duncati01.html) makes free throw 2 of 2


3:41.0
T. Prince (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/princta01.html) misses 3-pt shot from 25 ft (block by B. Barry (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/barrybr01.html))

52-48




3:40.0


52-48

Defensive rebound by R. Horry (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/horryro01.html)


3:30.0


52-50
+2
T. Duncan (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/duncati01.html) makes 2-pt shot from 6 ft


3:30.0


52-50

Shooting foul by R. Hamilton (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hamilri01.html)


3:30.0


52-51
+1
T. Duncan (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/duncati01.html) makes free throw 1 of 1


3:15.0
Shooting foul by B. Barry (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/barrybr01.html)

52-51




3:15.0
R. Hamilton (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hamilri01.html) makes free throw 1 of 2
+1
53-51




3:15.0
R. Hamilton (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hamilri01.html) misses free throw 2 of 2

53-51




3:14.0


53-51

Defensive rebound by T. Duncan (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/duncati01.html)


2:56.0


53-53
+2
T. Duncan (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/duncati01.html) makes 2-pt shot from 11 ft


2:30.0
R. Hamilton (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hamilri01.html) misses 2-pt shot from 16 ft

53-53




2:29.0


53-53

Defensive rebound by B. Bowen (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bowenbr01.html)


2:14.0


53-53

T. Duncan (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/duncati01.html) misses 2-pt shot from 7 ft


2:13.0
Defensive rebound by B. Wallace (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wallabe01.html)

53-53




2:00.0
Shooting foul by B. Bowen (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bowenbr01.html)

53-53




2:00.0
C. Billups (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/billuch01.html) makes free throw 1 of 2
+1
54-53




2:00.0


54-53

M. Ginobili (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/ginobma01.html) enters the game for B. Bowen (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bowenbr01.html)


2:00.0
C. Billups (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/billuch01.html) makes free throw 2 of 2
+1
55-53




1:39.0


55-55
+2
M. Ginobili (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/ginobma01.html) makes 2-pt shot from 1 ft (assist by R. Horry (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/horryro01.html))


1:15.0
L. Hunter (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hunteli01.html) misses 2-pt shot from 11 ft

55-55




1:13.0


55-55

Defensive rebound by T. Duncan (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/duncati01.html)


0:54.8


55-55

T. Duncan (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/duncati01.html) misses 2-pt shot from 9 ft (block by B. Wallace (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wallabe01.html))


0:54.8


55-55

Offensive rebound by Team


0:52.9


55-57
+2
T. Duncan (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/duncati01.html) makes 2-pt shot from 15 ft (assist by T. Parker (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/parketo01.html))



Keeping his team in the game in the third quarter doesn't exactly scream "sealed the game" to me. Went 3-for-6 in that stretch along with the free throws. So outside of that 5 minute stretch, he was 3-for-12 in the second half right? You said took over the second half which sealed the game. I don't see that sealing the game. I wouldn't argue had you said something like "Duncan kept them in the game for like a 5 minute stretch at the end of the third quarter, which allowed Ginobili to seal the game."

[Kawhitstorm]

Keeping his team in the game in the third quarter doesn't exactly scream "sealed the game" to me. Went 3-for-6 in that stretch along with the free throws. So outside of that 5 minute stretch, he was 3-for-12 in the second half right?
Tim had 12 of the 19 pts for the Spurs in the 3rd quarter along w/ 6 rebounds & stout rim protection.:wakeup
He also had two key assists in the 4th quarter when the Pistons doubled him.:wakeup


You said took over the second half which sealed the game. I don't see that sealing the game. I wouldn't argue had you said something like "Duncan kept them in the game for like a 5 minute stretch at the end of the third quarter, which allowed Ginobili to seal the game."
I stated "sealed the DEAL", as in the MVP case for Iggy/Tim.:wakeup

The sequence that ACTUALLY clinched the championship involved Tim in EVERY play: (Manu hit 4 FTs after being INTENTIONALLY fouled)



7:12.0


61-64

T. Duncan (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/duncati01.html) enters the game for N. Mohammed (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/mohamna01.html)


7:12.0


61-64

T. Parker (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/parketo01.html) enters the game for M. Ginobili (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/ginobma01.html)


6:58.0


61-64

Turnover by R. Horry (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/horryro01.html) (traveling)


6:46.0
R. Hamilton (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/hamilri01.html) misses 2-pt shot from 16 ft

61-64




6:44.0


61-64

Defensive rebound by T. Duncan (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/duncati01.html)


6:24.0


61-64

R. Horry (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/horryro01.html) misses 3-pt shot from 24 ft


6:22.0


61-64

Offensive rebound by T. Duncan (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/duncati01.html)


6:11.0


61-67
+3
B. Bowen (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bowenbr01.html) makes 3-pt shot from 26 ft (assist by T. Duncan (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/duncati01.html))


6:09.0
Detroit full timeout

61-67




6:09.0
A. McDyess (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/mcdyean01.html) enters the game for B. Wallace (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wallabe01.html)

61-67




5:54.0
Turnover by R. Wallace (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wallara01.html) (bad pass; steal by R. Horry (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/horryro01.html))

61-67




5:37.0


61-67

Turnover by T. Duncan (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/duncati01.html) (bad pass; steal by R. Wallace (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wallara01.html))


5:17.0
R. Wallace (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wallara01.html) makes 2-pt shot from 17 ft
+2
63-67




4:51.0


63-67

T. Parker (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/parketo01.html) misses 2-pt shot from 21 ft


4:50.0


63-67

Offensive rebound by R. Horry (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/horryro01.html)


4:37.0


63-67

San Antonio full timeout


4:37.0


63-67

M. Ginobili (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/ginobma01.html) enters the game for B. Barry (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/barrybr01.html)


4:27.0


63-67

T. Duncan (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/duncati01.html) misses 2-pt shot from 17 ft


4:25.0
Defensive rebound by R. Wallace (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/wallara01.html)

63-67




4:16.0


63-67

Violation by B. Bowen (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/bowenbr01.html) (kicked ball)


4:03.0
A. McDyess (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/mcdyean01.html) misses 2-pt shot from 7 ft

63-67




4:00.0


63-67

Defensive rebound by R. Horry (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/h/horryro01.html)


3:38.0


63-69
+2
T. Duncan (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/duncati01.html) makes 2-pt shot from 17 ft (assist by M. Ginobili (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/ginobma01.html))


3:25.0
C. Billups (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/billuch01.html) makes 2-pt shot from 2 ft
+2
65-69




2:57.0


65-72
+3
M. Ginobili (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/ginobma01.html) makes 3-pt shot from 26 ft (assist by T. Duncan (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/d/duncati01.html))

[dbreiden83080]

Who cares? Win the damn chip..

[dbreiden83080]

Keeping his team in the game in the third quarter doesn't exactly scream "sealed the game" to me. Went 3-for-6 in that stretch along with the free throws. So outside of that 5 minute stretch, he was 3-for-12 in the second half right? You said took over the second half which sealed the game. I don't see that sealing the game. I wouldn't argue had you said something like "Duncan kept them in the game for like a 5 minute stretch at the end of the third quarter, which allowed Ginobili to seal the game."

Tim just pretty much stayed in the fight that game 7. He was all banged up with ankle injuries, playing against the best D in the league. He shot poorly but stayed with it, demanding the ball, playing great D and rebounding. He never shied away from wanting it in that game. He showed his championship heart..

[313]

It's amazing how big time the Warriors role-players are. I wrote off Barbosa, Livingston, Barnes as shaky earlier in the season, but boy have they flourished. Hope Patty, Fat Ass, and Fat Head are taking notes.
They started off 27-0 why would you write them off lol

[HarlemHeat37]

He should have won it last year, and he should win it again, regardless, tbh..the attention he draws off the ball is something we have never seen before in the NBA..

Curry is going to be the 4th player in NBA history to win back to back MVPs + championships, joining Russell, Lebron and DK:wow

[Kawhitstorm]

He should have won it last year, and he should win it again, regardless, tbh..the attention he draws off the ball is something we have never seen before in the NBA..

Klay/Wardell even draw attention while sitting on the bench which is why Livingston/Barbosa lit up the Cavs.:wow

[Thread]

Klay/Wardell even draw attention while sitting on the bench which is why Livingston/Barbosa lit up the Cavs.:wow

That's why it's called a team, shitstorm. Curry honest to God does not grudge it. His heart is pure. The father figure,,,that's the key.

[LkrFan]

As long as LeBronze or Jim don't rang

FIFY son :tu

[LkrFan]

That's why it's called a team, shitstorm. Curry honest to God does not grudge it. His heart is pure. The father figure,,,that's the key.

:rollin :lmao :rollin