Stanford Rape

[pgardn]

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-stanford-rape-20160606-snap-htmlstory.html

If this kid was black, and not a student...

Imagine a judge giving a black kid 6 months for raping a white woman. Furthermore, imagine this judge reading the black father's statement including the heartbreaking fact that his son can't eat steak anymore, and this was his favorite food... Oh the horror.

I swear to God our legal system is just wanked on occasion.

What does this judge say to his prospective female grandchildren? Too bad, you were born the wrong sex.

[spurraider21]

this is almost as bad as the "affluenza" bullshit

[DMX7]

I wouldn't expect him to get a 6-month sentence if he pleaded guilty. Instead, he took it to trial and was convicted. Geezzz... If he had pleaded guilty, what would the penalty have been? Probation for rape?

[Splits]

17 year old Mexican in San Antonio was tried as an adult and sentenced to 10 years for a car accident that killed two of his best friends even though he could have been given probation

That said, finger rape is not the same as dick rape

[boutons_deux]

finger rape is not the same as dick rape

yes it is

[pgardn]

17 year old Mexican in San Antonio was tried as an adult and sentenced to 10 years for a car accident that killed two of his best friends even though he could have been given probation

That said, finger rape is not the same as dick rape

I put up the mild article. The kids that stopped him were horrified. This sentence has got to be changed.

[TDMVPDPOY]

the 17 yr old driver, that depends if he was wrecklessly driving during that accident...

[rmt]

yes it is

IMO, it isn't - that's like going to the ob-gyn - doesn't compare to possibly getting HIV, pregnant, etc. NB - I haven't read the article and know nothing about this case - just responding to the finger/penis rape.

[boutons_deux]

penetrating anybody's body forcibly and/or without their consent with ANYTHING is violent rape.

US military RAPED Gitmo captives orally and anally. America The Beautiful.

If ordered to incinerate the Gitmo captives, the US military would have incinerated them. Orders is orders, not to be disobeyed. Just be a "good German", STFU, and follow orders.

[mrsmaalox]

IMO, it isn't - that's like going to the ob-gyn - doesn't compare to possibly getting HIV, pregnant, etc. NB - I haven't read the article and know nothing about this case - just responding to the finger/penis rape.

FFS, that has to be one of the stupidest comments I've ever read on this site.

FYI: "Stated in Penal Code 289 PC, "forcible penetration with a foreign object" is identical to rape except that it addresses penetration with things other than a sexual organ. Examples would include a finger, a dildo or a stick. The penalties are identical to those of rape."

And if your ob-gyn puts a medical instrument in your vagina without your consent it would be rape too.

[SpursforSix]

yes it is

boutons gets one right

[rmt]

That said, finger rape is not the same as dick rape

We are not talking about whether it's right or wrong - the comment was about whether it is the same. Did you two see, where I put "IMO" to penis rape not being the same as finger rape - that you don't have to worry about catching any disease or getting pregnant - which in my case (since I would not abort), it would mean having the child.

[mrsmaalox]

We are not talking about whether it's right or wrong - the comment was about whether it is the same. Did you two see, where I put "IMO" to penis rape not being the same as finger rape - that you don't have to worry about catching any disease or getting pregnant - which in my case (since I would not abort), it would mean having the child.

Oh my gawd I can't believe this requires an explanation. Its not about the risks of the object used to penetrate. Its about lack of consent.

And if you don't think foreign objects can spread disease or cause serious serious injury request your ob-gyn do your next exam with his golf club instead of a sterile instrument. Maybe they can enlighten you about it.

[rmt]

Oh my gawd I can't believe this requires an explanation. Its not about the risks of the object used to penetrate. Its about lack of consent.

I understand perfectly about the lack of consent. But it's far easier for me to try to forget about someone sticking their fingers up me than getting some disease or having a child - those are lifelong consequences.

[mrsmaalox]

I understand perfectly about the lack of consent. But it's far easier for me to try to forget about someone sticking their fingers up me than getting some disease or having a child - those are lifelong consequences.

Oh geez. I really hope you don't have a daughter. That's all I have left for this thread.

[rmt]

I do have a daughter, and she probably wouldn't abort either. So do I want her finger-raped or what would just about ruin her entire life?

[DisAsTerBot]

wtf it's easier to forget about being raped depending on the object used?! that's some fucked up logic

[rmt]

wtf it's easier to forget about being raped depending on the object used?! that's some fucked up logic

Look, you're being forced - something you have no control over. What object is preferable? A penis (which could result in HIV, STD, child) or fingers. Try to look at the entire situation including the RESULT. And yes, it's far easier to forget the few minutes/seconds of being raped than it is a LIFELONG disease, an earlier death or a child.

[hitmanyr2k]

Oh my gawd I can't believe this requires an explanation. Its not about the risks of the object used to penetrate. Its about lack of consent.

And if you don't think foreign objects can spread disease or cause serious serious injury request your ob-gyn do your next exam with his golf club instead of a sterile instrument. Maybe they can enlighten you about it.

:lol :lol

[rmt]

And if you don't think foreign objects can spread disease or cause serious serious injury request your ob-gyn do your next exam with his golf club instead of a sterile instrument. Maybe they can enlighten you about it.



That said, finger rape is not the same as dick rape

[Pelicans78]

This thread went haywire quickly.

[SpursforSix]

Look, you're being forced - something you have no control over. What object is preferable? A penis (which could result in HIV, STD, child) or fingers. Try to look at the entire situation including the RESULT. And yes, it's far easier to forget the few minutes/seconds of being raped than it is a LIFELONG disease, an earlier death or a child.

You can't possibly say it's "easier" to forget. You can't possibly put yourself in that situation and think you understand the mental ramifications of it.

[DMX7]

17 year old Mexican in San Antonio was tried as an adult and sentenced to 10 years for a car accident that killed two of his best friends even though he could have been given probation

That said, finger rape is not the same as dick rape

It's very close and more importantly, it's obvious he was going to rape her if he hadn't been caught and stopped.

[rmt]

You can't possibly say it's "easier" to forget. You can't possibly put yourself in that situation and think you understand the mental ramifications of it.

I'm more concerned with the physical results of it than the mental ramifications - it's traumatic regardless of penis or fingers but the end RESULT (from penis) can be lifelong. For the mental, I can get therapy or I can pray and rely on God. A child - at my age - I just don't have the energy required for that and it doesn't end when they become adults - I still worry. I KNOW that it would be easier to forget a finger rape than carrying, delivering and the CONSTANT, everyday upbringing of the child of my rapist for the next 18 years.

[boutons_deux]

"For the mental, I can get therapy or I can pray and rely on God."

your "mental" :lol

For some reason, totally ignored by you, even Bible humping people suffer from rape and abuse for decades.

so in your perverted logic, no pregnancy, no child, no problem. Typical insanity from rightwingnutjobs

PTSD, depression, substance abuse to cover the pain? no problem, pray to God, super reliable fixit Man.

[rmt]

"For the mental, I can get therapy or I can pray and rely on God."

your "mental" :lol

For some reason, totally ignored by you, even Bible humping people suffer from rape and abuse for decades.

so in your perverted logic, no pregnancy, no child, no problem. Typical insanity from rightwingnutjobs

PTSD, depression, substance abuse to cover the pain? no problem, pray to God, super reliable fixit Man.

You guys are talking like I mightn't have to deal with PTSD, depression, substance abuse to cover the pain (from a penis rape) IN ADDITION to having some disease or child to raise.

[SpursforSix]

You guys are talking like I mightn't have to deal with PTSD, depression, substance abuse to cover the pain (from a penis rape) IN ADDITION to having some disease or child to raise.

Assuming you're keeping the child as opposed to having it adopted, then you've made a decision that you will get something positive out of it. If you're keeping the child, you've concluded that you can get over the rape part and enjoy what a child has to offer. So, in this scenario, you' might actually find yourself better off than if you'd just been finger raped.

[diego]

I'm more concerned with the physical results of it than the mental ramifications - it's traumatic regardless of penis or fingers but the end RESULT (from penis) can be lifelong. For the mental, I can get therapy or I can pray and rely on God. A child - at my age - I just don't have the energy required for that and it doesn't end when they become adults - I still worry. I KNOW that it would be easier to forget a finger rape than carrying, delivering and the CONSTANT, everyday upbringing of the child of my rapist for the next 18 years.

What's the problem, you don't love life? It's not work, it's a fucking miracle and God will see right through your "avoid abortion but fail to love my baby" plan. You should just go straight to Hell and save those poor angels the work of judging your flawed soul.

That, or avoid making stupid comments about what kind of rape is "easier to forget"

[rmt]

Assuming you're keeping the child as opposed to having it adopted, then you've made a decision that you will get something positive out of it. If you're keeping the child, you've concluded that you can get over the rape part and enjoy what a child has to offer. So, in this scenario, you' might actually find yourself better off than if you'd just been finger raped.

It's not a matter of whether I'll get something positive out of it - it's a life and part of me. The child is innocent in all this, and there's no question of giving it up for adoption. Maybe it's selfish of me (now that I'm coming into the home stretch with my other kids) to want to have some time for myself and my husband. But I'm gung-ho type of person, throwing myself into whatever I do and the way I want to raise my kids takes a lot of energy - energy I don't seem to have these days - that's why people should have kids when they're young - not old like me. Anyway, I thank you for turning the pov around - that good can come from a bad situation and reminding me that it's all in God's will.

[SpursforSix]

It's not a matter of whether I'll get something positive out of it - it's a life and part of me. The child is innocent in all this, and there's no question of giving it up for adoption. Maybe it's selfish of me (now that I'm coming into the home stretch with my other kids) to want to have some time for myself and my husband. But I'm gung-ho type of person, throwing myself into whatever I do and the way I want to raise my kids takes a lot of energy - energy I don't seem to have these days - that's why people should have kids when they're young - not old like me. Anyway, I thank you for turning the pov around - that good can come from a bad situation and reminding me that it's all in God's will.

Sure. That's what I'm here for.

[Shastafarian]

Hey look! Another thread where rmt has embarrassed herself. Keep on truckin' :tu

[rmt]

I don't feel embarrassed. I feel encouraged that some on this board are willing to help (when I get caught up arguing with others) remind me who I believe is in control and what my attitude should be.

[pgardn]

I don't feel embarrassed. I feel encouraged that some on this board are willing to help (when I get caught up arguing with others) remind me who I believe is in control and what my attitude should be.


I have no problem with this at all. In fact, I will call it noble.

Just as long as Christian views are not force fed.

[russellgoat]

If he was drunk he couldn't consent either so I don't see the reason why he got 6 months.

[pgardn]

Now...

This "kid"got 6 months because he is WHITE and a student.

WTF?

And his father dare write to the judge he knows his boy rapist is in pain because he can't eat his favorite food, steak, anymore!

As a judge I give his dad a figure 4 leg lock.

Then dad writes:
20 minutes of misjudgement does not deserve a long sentence...

How about I Fckn drill on dad's teeth while forcing 20 greased mangos up his tooter? For only 20 minutes...
Sorry.
I'm am flabberdisgusted by this perverted sense of justice.

[pgardn]

If he was drunk he couldn't consent either so I don't see the reason why he got 6 months.

What?

Consent to what?

[Th'Pusher]

What?

Consent to what?

He's just being edgy. Best to ignore that stuff.

[russellgoat]

What?

Consent to what?

To have sex. Maybe she was the one who asked for it first.

[russellgoat]

He's just being edgy. Best to ignore that stuff.

Yeah poor women that are drunk and don't remember anything aren't responsible for their actions, but men should be 100% accountable in the same situation because of the patriarchy.

[pgardn]

To have sex. Maybe she was the one who asked for it first.

Just took a shower.

She was out.
Read.

[TDMVPDPOY]

how much did they pay the judge?

[pgardn]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/06/07/the-swedish-stanford-students-who-rescued-an-unconscious-sexual-assault-victim-speak-out/?hpid=hp_hp-more-top-stories-2_swedish-745a-stream%3Ahomepage%2Fstory


We need foreign students in this country to insure some sort of decency...

[boutons_deux]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/06/07/the-swedish-stanford-students-who-rescued-an-unconscious-sexual-assault-victim-speak-out/?hpid=hp_hp-more-top-stories-2_swedish-745a-stream%3Ahomepage%2Fstory


We need foreign students in this country to insure some sort of decency...

USA culture, always experimental, has degraded so much, it's beyond repair, esp not by importing Scandinavian "socialists"

[SpursforSix]

USA culture, always experimental, has degraded so much, it's beyond repair, esp not by importing Scandinavian "socialists"

Rape and covering it up is rampant in Scandinavia.

[Spurminator]

Yeah poor women that are drunk and don't remember anything aren't responsible for their actions, but men should be 100% accountable in the same situation because of the patriarchy.

I'm with you. I once beat the shit out of a drunk homeless guy but I was also drunk, so it's just as much his fault, really.

[SpursforSix]

I'm with you. I once beat the shit out of a drunk homeless guy but I was also drunk, so it's just as much his fault, really.

you should have finger raped him just to add to his misery

[Quetzal-X]

Rape and covering it up is rampant in Scandinavia.


Rape and covering it up is rampant in the Roman Catholic Church and with those Jew-Wish rabbi sucking on baby boy dick in their rituals.
Its no surprise to see all those SAWM on "To Catch a Predator"
Its a cultural thing.

[Spurminator]

you should have finger raped him just to add to his misery

Who says I didn't? My fingers have minds of their own when I'm on the sauce.

[resistanze]

:lmao rmt

[resistanze]

To have sex. Maybe she was the one who asked for it first.

She asked for sex beside a dumpster, then immediately fell unconscious, leaving him to finish the job.

He ran away when confronted by witness while he was fingering a limp body, I guess due to performance anxiety.

:tu Could only imagine what you do to your children at night.

[boutons_deux]

Rapist’s mother wrote letter to judge complaining about decorating — and not one word about the victim

Brock Turner’s mother did not mention the victim of his assault in a letter to Judge Aaron Persky, but she did discuss the effect of his actions on their home,

“This house now reminds me of the horror of that moment. I have not decorated the house nor have I hung anything on the walls. I am a mom who loves family pictures but I haven’t had the heart to put photos around of our family being happy.”

The letter also does not make direct reference to the former swimmer’s attack on the unconscious woman, instead saying that his account of what transpired had not changed and that he was “trying to fit in with the swimmers he idolized.”

Turner’s mother also expressed concern about his future job prospects and fretted over the fact that he would have to register as a Tier 3 sex offender after serving his sentence.

“Brock will have to register at the highest tier which means he is on the same level as a pedophile/child molester. There is no differentiation,” she wrote. “The public records will reflect a Tier 3 so people will wrongly assume he is a child molester. I fear for his lifelong safety.”

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/06/rapists-mother-wrote-letter-to-judge-complaining-about-decorating-and-not-one-word-about-the-victim/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

Fucking rich assholes, preoccupied with how their son's life, career as a sex-offender, their home decor.

[boutons_deux]

She asked for sex beside a dumpster, then immediately fell unconscious, leaving him to finish the job.

He ran away when confronted by witness while he was fingering a limp body, I guess due to performance anxiety.

:tu Could only imagine what you do to your children at night.

The Repug rape caucus has a Spurstalk member.

The swimmer took pictures of her tits and sent them to multiple people.

[russellgoat]

I'm with you. I once beat the shit out of a drunk homeless guy but I was also drunk, so it's just as much his fault, really.

If you both agreed to fight while drunk and he didn't got irreparable physical damage, an STD or got pregnant, then I don't see what's the big fucking deal. If it was the later he could have gotten an abortion anyway.

[russellgoat]

The Repug rape caucus has a Spurstalk member.

The swimmer took pictures of her tits and sent them to multiple people.

But I am not republican. Maybe if people like you, that expend a lot of energy fighting evil Big Tobacco, took their time to fight against Big Alcohol, this wouldn't happen.

[spankadelphia]

It's largely Democrats who are responsible for turning our legal system into Clown World. I don't see what all the fuss is about.

Normally it's one of the left's favorite constituents getting off light for a heinous crime, serving 3 years only to be released to maim or kill yet another victim. This time it's a privileged "OMG FUCKING WHITE MALE!!!" and everyone is throwing a conniption fit.

[boutons_deux]

"getting off light for a heinous crime"

the prison population is at all time high, mandatory sentencing, etc.

People are jailed for not being able to pay tickets, aka "debtor prisons"

Where's your "getting off light" evidence?

[boutons_deux]

Sister of Stanford rape victim: Brock Turner tried to force himself on me too

Turner grabbed at the victim’s sister at the party too.

The Los Angeles Times (http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-stanford-rape-case-documents-release-20160610-snap-htmlstory.html) reports that the unnamed sister told the court that Turner grabbed her by the waist and “started making out on her cheek” unprompted at the party, forcing her to untangle herself and run to warn a friend.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/06/sister-of-stanford-rape-victim-brock-turner-tried-to-force-himself-on-me-too/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[boutons_deux]

Wealthy Teen Nearly Experiences Consequence

http://www.theonion.com/article/wealthy-teen-nearly-experiences-consequence-2551

[russellgoat]

Now...

This "kid"got 6 months because he is WHITE and a student.

WTF?

And his father dare write to the judge he knows his boy rapist is in pain because he can't eat his favorite food, steak, anymore!

As a judge I give his dad a figure 4 leg lock.

Then dad writes:
20 minutes of misjudgement does not deserve a long sentence...

How about I Fckn drill on dad's teeth while forcing 20 greased mangos up his tooter? For only 20 minutes...
Sorry.
I'm am flabberdisgusted by this perverted sense of justice.


Wait a second, are you trying to say race influence the decisions of judges? You sound just like Trump man.

[z0sa]

It's largely Democrats who are responsible for turning our legal system into Clown World. I don't see what all the fuss is about.

Normally it's one of the left's favorite constituents getting off light for a heinous crime, serving 3 years only to be released to maim or kill yet another victim. This time it's a privileged "OMG FUCKING WHITE MALE!!!" and everyone is throwing a conniption fit.

There's some truth to this statement. But blaming it on democrats is beyond intellectually dishonest.

The justice system is a clusterfuck. Both sides are directly involved, and benefitting/did benefit, from said clusterfuck.

[TeyshaBlue]

There is no justice system. Its a legal system. The sooner you realize that the better.

[Spurminator]

There is no justice system. Its a legal system.

And that's how it should be, IMO.

"Justice" is the nicer cousin of Vengeance. It's too emotional to be impartial.

[boutons_deux]

Judge quashes rape charges so athlete can enjoy ‘a college experience’

Yet another young white athlete has been let off the hook for sexual assault, receiving no jail time after being charged with sexually assaulting two unconscious women at a house party, according to MassLive. (http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2016/08/do_not_publish_becker_sex_assa.html)
Eighteen year old David Becker had been charged with two counts of rape and one count of indecent assault and battery. The victims had been drinking at a house party while a fellow student’s father was out of town, and had stayed after the party to help Becker and others clean up. The two young women fell asleep in an upstairs bedroom, talking with Becker until they all fell asleep.
Both victims woke up to Becker sexually assaulting them, with an apologetic text message from Becker sent the next day corroborating their stories.
Palmer District Court Judge Thomas Estes only gave Becker two years of probation, while also being ordered to avoid drugs or alcohol and to stay away from his victims.

While Becker has been ordered to submit to sex offender treatment programs, Judge Estes did not require him to register as a sex offender, meaning that no conviction will ever appear on his record, so long as he does not break his probation.

Since their attack, one of the victims have heard from other students that Becker had committed similar sexual attacks on other girls in the past, and that he was known in some circles at school as “David the rapist.”

Becker’s attorney Thomas Rooke applauded the judge’s decision, celebrating the fact that Becker “can now look forward to a productive life without being burdened with the stigma of having to register as a sex offender. The goal of this sentence was not to impede this individual from graduating high school and to go onto the next step of his life, which is a college experience.

“We all made mistakes when we were 17, 18, 19 years old,” Rooke continued. “Putting this kid in jail for two years would have destroyed this kid’s life.”

http://usuncut.com/news/judge-quashes-rape-charges-athlete-can-enjoy-college-experience/

We don't "all make mistakes" of committing felonies.

[Trill Clinton]

Judge quashes rape charges so athlete can enjoy ‘a college experience’

Yet another young white athlete has been let off the hook for sexual assault, receiving no jail time after being charged with sexually assaulting two unconscious women at a house party, according to MassLive. (http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2016/08/do_not_publish_becker_sex_assa.html)
Eighteen year old David Becker had been charged with two counts of rape and one count of indecent assault and battery. The victims had been drinking at a house party while a fellow student’s father was out of town, and had stayed after the party to help Becker and others clean up. The two young women fell asleep in an upstairs bedroom, talking with Becker until they all fell asleep.
Both victims woke up to Becker sexually assaulting them, with an apologetic text message from Becker sent the next day corroborating their stories.
Palmer District Court Judge Thomas Estes only gave Becker two years of probation, while also being ordered to avoid drugs or alcohol and to stay away from his victims.

While Becker has been ordered to submit to sex offender treatment programs, Judge Estes did not require him to register as a sex offender, meaning that no conviction will ever appear on his record, so long as he does not break his probation.

Since their attack, one of the victims have heard from other students that Becker had committed similar sexual attacks on other girls in the past, and that he was known in some circles at school as “David the rapist.”

Becker’s attorney Thomas Rooke applauded the judge’s decision, celebrating the fact that Becker “can now look forward to a productive life without being burdened with the stigma of having to register as a sex offender. The goal of this sentence was not to impede this individual from graduating high school and to go onto the next step of his life, which is a college experience.

“We all made mistakes when we were 17, 18, 19 years old,” Rooke continued. “Putting this kid in jail for two years would have destroyed this kid’s life.”

http://usuncut.com/news/judge-quashes-rape-charges-athlete-can-enjoy-college-experience/

We don't "all make mistakes" of committing felonies.




good to be white http://i65.tinypic.com/whnwgw.png

[InRareForm]

Wow

[cd021]

Judge quashes rape charges so athlete can enjoy ‘a college experience’

Yet another young white athlete has been let off the hook for sexual assault, receiving no jail time after being charged with sexually assaulting two unconscious women at a house party, according to MassLive. (http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2016/08/do_not_publish_becker_sex_assa.html)
Eighteen year old David Becker had been charged with two counts of rape and one count of indecent assault and battery. The victims had been drinking at a house party while a fellow student’s father was out of town, and had stayed after the party to help Becker and others clean up. The two young women fell asleep in an upstairs bedroom, talking with Becker until they all fell asleep.
Both victims woke up to Becker sexually assaulting them, with an apologetic text message from Becker sent the next day corroborating their stories.
Palmer District Court Judge Thomas Estes only gave Becker two years of probation, while also being ordered to avoid drugs or alcohol and to stay away from his victims.

While Becker has been ordered to submit to sex offender treatment programs, Judge Estes did not require him to register as a sex offender, meaning that no conviction will ever appear on his record, so long as he does not break his probation.

Since their attack, one of the victims have heard from other students that Becker had committed similar sexual attacks on other girls in the past, and that he was known in some circles at school as “David the rapist.”

Becker’s attorney Thomas Rooke applauded the judge’s decision, celebrating the fact that Becker “can now look forward to a productive life without being burdened with the stigma of having to register as a sex offender. The goal of this sentence was not to impede this individual from graduating high school and to go onto the next step of his life, which is a college experience.

“We all made mistakes when we were 17, 18, 19 years old,” Rooke continued. “Putting this kid in jail for two years would have destroyed this kid’s life.”

http://usuncut.com/news/judge-quashes-rape-charges-athlete-can-enjoy-college-experience/

We don't "all make mistakes" of committing felonies.




Fucking disgusting, and he didn't even have to register as a sex offender.

Dat privilege:wow

[DMX7]

Fucking disgusting, and he didn't even have to register as a sex offender.

Dat privilege:wow

Da privilege is strong in dat one.

[boutons_deux]

... if he were black, the judge's calculation would be "you have no future anyway, so I'll throw you in prison for 20 years."

[TDMVPDPOY]

Da privilege is strong in dat one.

why does he have privilege? is his family illuminati?

[DMX7]

why does he have privilege? is his family illuminati?

Because probably...


... if he were black, the judge's calculation would be "you have no future anyway, so I'll throw you in prison for 20 years."

or something to that extent. It's just wrong.

[spurraider21]

There was no conviction but damn

[SnakeBoy]

Judge quashes rape charges so athlete can enjoy ‘a college experience’

Yet another young white athlete has been let off the hook for sexual assault, receiving no jail time after being charged with sexually assaulting two unconscious women at a house party, according to MassLive. (http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2016/08/do_not_publish_becker_sex_assa.html)
Eighteen year old David Becker had been charged with two counts of rape and one count of indecent assault and battery. The victims had been drinking at a house party while a fellow student’s father was out of town, and had stayed after the party to help Becker and others clean up. The two young women fell asleep in an upstairs bedroom, talking with Becker until they all fell asleep.
Both victims woke up to Becker sexually assaulting them, with an apologetic text message from Becker sent the next day corroborating their stories.
Palmer District Court Judge Thomas Estes only gave Becker two years of probation, while also being ordered to avoid drugs or alcohol and to stay away from his victims.

While Becker has been ordered to submit to sex offender treatment programs, Judge Estes did not require him to register as a sex offender, meaning that no conviction will ever appear on his record, so long as he does not break his probation.

Since their attack, one of the victims have heard from other students that Becker had committed similar sexual attacks on other girls in the past, and that he was known in some circles at school as “David the rapist.”

Becker’s attorney Thomas Rooke applauded the judge’s decision, celebrating the fact that Becker “can now look forward to a productive life without being burdened with the stigma of having to register as a sex offender. The goal of this sentence was not to impede this individual from graduating high school and to go onto the next step of his life, which is a college experience.

“We all made mistakes when we were 17, 18, 19 years old,” Rooke continued. “Putting this kid in jail for two years would have destroyed this kid’s life.”

http://usuncut.com/news/judge-quashes-rape-charges-athlete-can-enjoy-college-experience/

We don't "all make mistakes" of committing felonies.




I never knew Avante was an attorney

[boutons_deux]

Stanford rape case judge Aaron Persky will no longer hear criminal trials

Santa Clara County Judge Aaron Persky, who has drawn heavy criticism for his handling of sexual assault cases, will no longer oversee criminal trials,

Persky reportedly asked to be removed from those types of cases, and will begin hearing civil cases in September.

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/stanford-rape-judge-aaron-persky-will-no-longer-hear-criminal-cases-report/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

That's a hell of a punishment. :)

[TDMVPDPOY]

whats the difference between this white kid and kobe?

[SpursforSix]

whats the difference between this white kid and kobe?

The kid didn't singlehandedlly bring down a storied franchise with his own ego and greed. Tee hee.

[SpursforSix]

whats the difference between this white kid and kobe?


The kid didn't singlehandedlly bring down a storied franchise with his own ego and greed. Tee hee.

But they do have things in common.

Both are despicable rapists and neither won an NBA championship on their own. Tee hee Thread. Tee hee.

Yes, I know we have our Neal.

[russellgoat]

Because probably...



or something to that extent. It's just wrong.

Wait a minute dude, are you saying that when a person face charges, laws aren't the only thing that matters, but judges take into account the person's race, economic background, how they dress, their behavior during trials and even their opinions that don't have anything to do with the case if the accused happens to be a public figure? I though only racist people like Trump believed this bullshit. Are you racist?

[DMX7]

Wait a minute dude, are you saying that when a person face charges, laws aren't the only thing that matters, but judges take into account the person's race, economic background, how they dress, their behavior during trials and even their opinions that don't have anything to do with the case if the accused happens to be a public figure? I though only racist people like Trump believed this bullshit. Are you racist?

huh????

[russellgoat]

huh????


Dude, you agreed with Trump that law isn't the only thing that matter when someone is judging you.

[cd021]

Scheduled to get out Friday after serving 3 months in prison

[DMX7]

Brock Turner Launches Speaking Tour on “Drinking and Promiscuity”


http://countercurrentnews.com/2016/09/push-stop-brock-turner-launching-speaking-tour/#

[Splits]

"If your life is going to be destroyed over a beer and a finger-bang, you might as well down a fifth and dick-rape. Good luck kids!"

[boutons_deux]

If BT were black (and not a black scholarship athlete), he would not be selling speeches, would still be in jail, for years.

[pgardn]

If I were the victim's dad ... He would get hurt.

And I would land in jail, no doubt about that.

[Trainwreck2100]

If I were the victim's dad ... He would get hurt.

And I would land in jail, no doubt about that.

If you were the victim's dad maybe you should have taught your daughter how to say "no thanks I've had enough alcohol this evening"

[pgardn]

If you were the victim's dad maybe you should have taught your daughter how to say "no thanks I've had enough alcohol this evening"

No thanks and he will stop. Yeah, that's the ticket. The situation leading to this does not justify the action. Period. It's stupid to get drop dead drunk in ANY situation.

[boutons_deux]

This Idaho prosecutor has a troubling pattern of giving passes to child rapists and sex abusers

http://2d0yaz2jiom3c6vy7e7e5svk.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Karl-Lewies-Facebook-800x430.png


An Idaho prosecuting attorney is drawing complaints for allowing child sex abuse suspects to escape serious punishment with plea deals considered to be too lenient by some members of the community he serves.

East Idaho News investigated (http://www.eastidahonews.com/2016/09/concerns-raised-over-prosecutors-plea-agreement-with-man-accused-of-raping-teen/) some of those complaints and found Karl Lewies, the Fremont County prosecutor, had allowed men accused of raping and sexually abusing children to admit to less serious charges and avoid prison time and even skip sex offender registration.

The prosecutor emailed the reporter hours later to complain that his actions in the courthouse were “appalling and unnecessary.”

The website investigated three cases that Lewies prosecuted, involving Timothy Greene, Keith Strawn and Cody Polatis.

see article ...

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/09/this-idaho-prosecutor-has-a-troubling-pattern-of-giving-passes-to-child-rapists-and-sex-abusers/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[Trainwreck2100]

No thanks and he will stop. Yeah, that's the ticket. The situation leading to this does not justify the action. Period. It's stupid to get drop dead drunk in ANY situation.

Don't get drunk don't get raped while passed out on the street. That's a good lesson for everybody

[boutons_deux]

Ex-Stanford swimmer appeals sexual assault conviction

After serving three months of a six-month sentence, Turner was released early for good behavior. He had to register as a sex offender in his home state of Ohio last year,

The woman Turner was convicted of sexually assaulting was found near a garbage enclosure but not behind a trash bin, according to the appeal.

Multhaup said that implying otherwise

gave the impression Turner tried to hide his activities with the woman. :lol

The 172-page appeal requests that the conviction be overturned and that Turner receive a new trial. But if he is convicted again, he could face a longer prison sentence.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-california-rape/ex-stanford-swimmer-appeals-sexual-assault-conviction-idUSKBN1DW0N2?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+reuters%2FtopNews+%28News+%2F +US+%2F+Top+News%29

[boutons_deux]

Aaron Persky, Judge In Brock Turner Case, Recalled

Persky will be removed from the bench four years before his term was set to end.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/aaron-persky-brock-turner-judge-recalled_us_5b102d65e4b05ef4c22c1b8b?utm_medium=em ail&utm_campaign=__TheMorningEmail__050618&utm_content=__TheMorningEmail__050618+CID_1c526852 9b859a69940c429cfc6adbe6&utm_source=Email%20marketing%20software&utm_term=HuffPost&ncid=newsltushpmgnews__TheMorningEmail__050618

[RandomGuy]

Aaron Persky, Judge In Brock Turner Case, Recalled

Persky will be removed from the bench four years before his term was set to end.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/aaron-persky-brock-turner-judge-recalled_us_5b102d65e4b05ef4c22c1b8b?utm_medium=em ail&utm_campaign=__TheMorningEmail__050618&utm_content=__TheMorningEmail__050618+CID_1c526852 9b859a69940c429cfc6adbe6&utm_source=Email%20marketing%20software&utm_term=HuffPost&ncid=newsltushpmgnews__TheMorningEmail__050618

So the judge got a four year sentence of being a civilian. Mixed feelings about that. It was, overall, a bad call, but a full recall seems a bit too much like mob mentality.

[Fabbs]

The 172-page appeal requests that the conviction be overturned and that Turner receive a new trial. But if he is convicted again, he could face a longer prison sentence.

Where is this phaggot and his defense liarwyer appeal at presently?

[boutons_deux]

Brock the rapist should be a lawyer, has great way with words, and with LIES

Brock Turner Insists He Never Wanted Sex, Only “Outercourse”

https://compote.slate.com/images/dfeed33c-2910-4f0e-aa60-7b6194584ab8.jpeg?width=780&height=520&rect=1180x787&offset=0x0

Turner wasn’t attempting rape at all when he thrust his body against an unconscious woman’s naked genitals in 2015, lawyer Eric Multhaup told the three appellate court judges.

He was merely attempting “outercourse.”

Turner is trying to get his conviction on that first charge overturned

by arguing that he only wanted to nonconsensually rub his body against hers,

without penetrating her.

Turner only stopped abusing the woman

when two graduate students on bicycles found Turner on top of her and

saw she was not moving;

when Turner tried to run, they tackled him.

Now, Multhaup is trying to convince the appeals court that

if those two men hadn’t stopped by,

Turner would have stopped on his own,

without going any further than penetrating her with his fingers.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/07/brock-turner-says-he-didnt-attempt-rape-only-outercourse.html

finger rape good, penis rape not good. Everybody got that?

[Trey Gowdy]

IMO, it isn't - that's like going to the ob-gyn - doesn't compare to possibly getting HIV, pregnant, etc. NB - I haven't read the article and know nothing about this case - just responding to the finger/penis rape.


We are not talking about whether it's right or wrong - the comment was about whether it is the same. Did you two see, where I put "IMO" to penis rape not being the same as finger rape - that you don't have to worry about catching any disease or getting pregnant - which in my case (since I would not abort), it would mean having the child.


I understand perfectly about the lack of consent. But it's far easier for me to try to forget about someone sticking their fingers up me than getting some disease or having a child - those are lifelong consequences.


I do have a daughter, and she probably wouldn't abort either. So do I want her finger-raped or what would just about ruin her entire life?

holy crap, this bitch has been saying retarded shit like this for over 2 years? i thought she was a relatively new conservatard.

[boutons_deux]

WHEN THE PUNISHMENT FEELS LIKE A CRIME




https://highline.huffingtonpost.com/articles/en/brock-turner-michele-dauber/

[Winehole23]

different Turner, similar result


Turner was out on bond for the first alleged assault when he was arrested for the second, court documents show. He had been out on bond a majority of the time since then on house arrest and with a GPS monitor, according to those documents.


Instead of staying at home as ordered by a judge, court documents say Turner visited various golf courses 19 times, as well as restaurants and sporting goods shops and even went out of state. (https://www.live5news.com/2022/04/07/court-documents-man-house-arrest-visited-golf-courses-19-times-restaurants-went-shopping/)

“There [has] been issue after issue with this case,” Ford says. “This defendant has ignored court order after court order, and these victims have been told to sit and endure.”

The judge did sign a permanent restraining order for the victims, Ford says. However, Turner’s charge can be expunged, meaning the charges would be totally removed from Turner’s public record and would not show up in a background search because he was sentenced under the Youthful Offender Act.
https://www.live5news.com/2022/04/08/teen-accused-sexual-assaults-bond-violations-pleads-guilty-assault-battery/