Isnt anyone afraid if Trump wins?

[lebomb]

I mean the guy has no filter what so ever. He spews shit outta his mouth and then tries to cover his tracks later. We cannot have a president that is a loose cannon at the lips. Are yall OK with that? The US will be an embarrassment the world over if Trump is elected. Just sayin. One of my biggest fears is that Trump does not know the political outlook and just understand business and going off about isht he doesnt care for. God forbid if we have to make a national decision to go to war or to intervene in our allies issues. This could all be a huge trainwreck. :claw

[spurraider21]

Disappointed sure. Afraid no.

He'll be out in 4 years anyway

[Dirk Oneanddoneski]

Not at all, now if I was a wet back or a Mudslime then maybe

[SpursforSix]

I mean the guy has no filter what so ever. He spews shit outta his mouth and then tries to cover his tracks later. We cannot have a president that is a loose cannon at the lips. Are yall OK with that? The US will be an embarrassment the world over if Trump is elected. Just sayin. One of my biggest fears is that Trump does not know the political outlook and just understand business and going off about isht he doesnt care for. God forbid if we have to make a national decision to go to war or to intervene in our allies issues. This could all be a huge trainwreck. :claw

Trump, Hillary, Sanders....any could be a train wreck. Bernie is the only one who seems honest and not slimy. But I don't think I agree with most of his policies.

[CosmicCowboy]

I think we will survive. I think it will be more like a Political Colon Cleanse. Short term just nasty as hell but beneficial long term.

[baseline bum]

But he'll bomb ISIS and make them pay for it

[DMX7]

Mexico will pay for the wall.

[lebomb]

I think we will survive. I think it will be more like a Political Colon Cleanse. Short term just nasty as hell but beneficial long term.

:lmao

[rmt]

I mean the guy has no filter what so ever. He spews shit outta his mouth and then tries to cover his tracks later. We cannot have a president that is a loose cannon at the lips. Are yall OK with that? The US will be an embarrassment the world over if Trump is elected. Just sayin. One of my biggest fears is that Trump does not know the political outlook and just understand business and going off about isht he doesnt care for. God forbid if we have to make a national decision to go to war or to intervene in our allies issues. This could all be a huge trainwreck. :claw

I think he's got enough bravado to shake things up in Washington. He obviously doesn't care what anyone thinks, doesn't care about any future political career, doesn't care about the money from donors since he's got his own. As far as embarrassment is concerned will it be any worse than red line in the sand, ISIS being a JV team and that they're contained? He'll surround himself with political people who will advise him on military/foreign stuff and run with what he thinks regarding the economy. Fix the economy and a lot of our problems will lessened - when we have jobs, we can help ourselves and others.

Look past the identity politics that Hillary is playing - it just makes me want to gag - “It’s really emotional,” she said. “I am someone who has been very touched and really encouraged by this extraordinary conviction that people have.”

She said the emotion came from “predominantly women and girls” but that men had been bringing their daughters to her campaign events to witness history.

“I do think that it will make a very big difference for a father or a mother to be able to look at their daughter just like they can look at their son and say ‘You can be anything you want to be in this country, including president of the United States.”

And I think the chances of this country going to war is higher with Hillary than with Trump.

[lebomb]

Hmmmmmm...............rmt, you have some valid points. But, I still think a Trump president will be embarrassing at a minimum. He will definitely piss people off to no end on a regular saying shit he shouldn't.

[101A]

I mean the guy has no filter what so ever. He spews shit outta his mouth and then tries to cover his tracks later.

He spews, but usually doesn't duck and cover. Usually doubles down.

[Dirk Oneanddoneski]

What happened lebomb I thought you were considering giving Trump an honest look since you are getting tired of seeing more and more Muslims around town?

[lebomb]

What happened lebomb I thought you were considering giving Trump an honest look since you are getting tired of seeing more and more Muslims around town?

Ehhhhh, he doesnt like anyone that isnt white, so muslims aren't the only issue anymore.

[Dirk Oneanddoneski]

Ehhhhh, he doesnt like anyone that isnt white, so muslims aren't the only issue anymore.

But that's not true, Trump has more black friends than all the other candidates put together

Hillary is the one that's friends with all the Klan members

http://i.imgur.com/jZVqlZ5.jpg

[rmt]

Hmmmmmm...............rmt, you have some valid points. But, I still think a Trump president will be embarrassing at a minimum. He will definitely piss people off to no end on a regular saying shit he shouldn't.

Oh, he's embarrassing me right now with these comments about the judge from Indiana. No doubt about it - I expect to be embarrassed on a weekly basis. But his reasoning might be along this line:

Sonia Sotomayor, an appeals court judge, gave a speech declaring that the ethnicity and sex of a judge “may and will make a difference in our judging.”

In her speech, Judge Sotomayor questioned the famous notion — often invoked by Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg and her retired Supreme Court colleague, Sandra Day O’Connor — that a wise old man and a wise old woman would reach the same conclusion when deciding cases.

“I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life,” said Judge Sotomayor


“Whether born from experience or inherent physiological or cultural differences,” she said, for jurists who are women and nonwhite, “our gender and national origins may and will make a difference in our judging.”

Her remarks came in the context of reflecting her own life experiences as a Hispanic female judge and on how the increasing diversity on the federal bench “will have an effect on the development of the law and on judging.”


Still, Judge Sotomayor questioned whether achieving impartiality “is possible in all, or even, in most, cases.” She added, “And I wonder whether by ignoring our differences as women or men of color we do a disservice both to the law and society.”

She also approvingly quoted several law professors who said that “to judge is an exercise of power” and that “there is no objective stance but only a series of perspectives.”

“Personal experiences affect the facts that judges choose to see,” she said.


Judge Sotomayor seemed to put a greater emphasis on a need for judges to seek to transcend their identities, writing that “all judges have cases that touch our passions deeply, but we all struggle constantly with remaining impartial” and letting reason rule. Courts, she added, “are in large part the product of their membership and their judges’ ability to think through and across their own intellectual and professional backgrounds” to find common ground.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/15/us/15judge.html?_r=0

[Shastafarian]

I think he got enough bravado to shake things up in Washington. He obviously doesn't care what anyone thinks, doesn't care about any future political career, doesn't care about the money from donors since he's got his own. As far as embarrassment is concerned will it be any worse than red line in the sand, ISIS being a JV team and that they're contained? He'll surround himself with political people who will advise him on military/foreign stuff and run with what he thinks regarding the economy. Fix the economy and a lot of our problems will lessened - when we have jobs, we can help ourselves and others.

And this ladies and gentlemen is why a man who can't even spell simple words like teleprompter or thinks global warming is a chinese conspiracy, can possibly be the next president of the united states. Americans are stupid.

[boutons_deux]

Losing women and blacks (those that the Repugs haven't suppressed) by huge %ages, Latinos (registering in huge numbers to vote against the slanderer of Latinos), LGBT, moderates, independents, Trash will not be President

Several Repugs are now un-endorsing Trash, very probably with more to follow.

If FBI indicts Hillary before the convention, Dems will have to go with Bernie as an even more sure winner over Trash.

iow, Repugs are fucked, mostly by themselves.

[Reck]

Republicans have lost the Latino vote forever when they embraced Trump.

They've never had the black vote to begin with.

[spurtech09]

Well Obama said that Trump won't be president....He also hinted at his last correspondent dinner that he doesn't know who
she will be...meaning the next president is going to be a woman..(hint) Hillary Clinton.....Idk who the next president will be but if Hillary Clinton becomes the next president she will keep everything the same way Obama has things running....That's not good....Obama is ruining America....I don't even trust Trump.....

[pgardn]

I wonder how the stock market reacts...

Could be crazy.

[rmt]

I wonder how the stock market reacts...

Could be crazy.

It's not the Presidential Election that the stock market reacts to - it's Madame Janet Yellen. Every word that comes out of her mouth regarding interest rates sends the market in a tizzy.

[Trill Clinton]

But that's not true, Trump has more black friends than all the other candidates put together

Hillary is the one that's friends with all the Klan members

http://i.imgur.com/jZVqlZ5.jpg



* Banned Blacks from renting from majority-White properties. He had his employees tagging their applications and got nailed in a government string.

* Equated Black people with "people on welfare" when trying to defend his actions in government lawsuit.

* Said that he hates the fact that Black people and not Jews are counting his money

* Was fined $200,000 for removing Black dealers from one of his casinos every time a high-roller asked for it

* Said that, "Laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that."

* Claims that educated Black people have an unfair advantage over educated White people in the job market

* Promoted bogus claims that Black people kill 81% of White homicide victims

* Made an all-out, full-on death penalty call full of racist dog whistles against the Central Park 5

* Uses "the blacks' when referring to Black people

* Uses "these people" when referring to Black protesters

* Connected Obama's supposed poor performance in office to the fact that he's Black

* Refused to disavow David Duke or the KKK when getting his endorsement for president

* Said that Mexicans were rapists

* Said any Mexican has a natural conflict of interest against him and can't judge his cases

* Refers to Japanese people as "the Japs" and suggested that the Japanese Internment was a good model he'd like to follow for Muslims

* Offered to pay the legal fees of a White man who sucker-punched a Black protester and said he'd kill him next time

* Makes all sorts of crazy statements about Muslims and immigrants using the same sort of racist dog-whistles to appeal to White conservatives




“Laziness is a trait in blacks.”

“Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day.”

“I have a great relationship with the blacks. I’ve always had a great relationship with the blacks.” (That's in 2008. Who the hell says that in 2008?)

“A well-educated black has a tremendous advantage over a well-educated white in terms of the job market. I think sometimes a black may think they don’t have an advantage or this and that... I’ve said on one occasion, even about myself, if I were starting off today, I would love to be a well-educated black, because I believe they do have an actual advantage.’’

“Sadly, because president Obama has done such a poor job as president, you won’t see another black president for generations!”

“Our great African American President hasn’t exactly had a positive impact on the thugs who are so happily and openly destroying Baltimore.”

“And if you look at black and African American youth, to a point where they’ve never done more poorly. There’s no spirit.”

[ducks]

I am afraid if Clinton wins

[ducks]

I think we will survive. I think it will be more like a Political Colon Cleanse. Short term just nasty as hell but beneficial long term.

[pgardn]

It's not the Presidential Election that the stock market reacts to - it's Madame Janet Yellen. Every word that comes out of her mouth regarding interest rates sends the market in a tizzy.

Oh I beg to differ in this case. Uncertainties, which Trump excels at, make the market move in dramatic fashion.

[Wild Cobra]

I mean the guy has no filter what so ever. He spews shit outta his mouth and then tries to cover his tracks later. We cannot have a president that is a loose cannon at the lips. Are yall OK with that? The US will be an embarrassment the world over if Trump is elected. Just sayin. One of my biggest fears is that Trump does not know the political outlook and just understand business and going off about isht he doesnt care for. God forbid if we have to make a national decision to go to war or to intervene in our allies issues. This could all be a huge trainwreck. :claw

Not afraid at all.

I fear for this nation if Hillary wins.

[Wild Cobra]

Trump, Hillary, Sanders....any could be a train wreck. Bernie is the only one who seems honest and not slimy. But I don't think I agree with most of his policies.

Same here, but at least the man has integrity.

[TheGreatYacht]

You're asking a forum with Texans. Most of these hicks beat their dicks to their cousin's Facebook pictures. They're scared of science, POC, and running out of sun screen to protect their pasty balding heads.

Of course they ain't scared of Trump. They have their :cry bible :cry

:lmao

[TeyshaBlue]

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[Warlord23]

Trump is a walking, talking IQ test that many have already failed - this thread is a great example of the flavors of Trumpism

Type 1: the fearful (ducks, rmt, spurtech) who've been inundated with talk radio / Fox news to believe that Obama has undermined America and Hillary will finish the job
Type 2: the angry (Dirk, Wild Cobra) who think others (Muslims, Hispanics, blacks, SJWs, gays, Jews, academia) are to blame for whatever is wrong, and Trump will lead underachieving white males to victory and set things right
Type 3: the so-called intellectuals (Cosmic, maybe Teysha) who normally lean right based on conservative principles (smaller government, lower taxes, moral values, individual liberties, states rights), who find themselves defending an unprincipled, amoral, childish, know-nothing con artist who has no interest in conservatism.

Types 1 and 2 won't change. They have cheered Trump even as he insulted the military, slammed GOP economic and foreign policy, flip-flopped, verifiably lied and used vulgar insults. At this point they would vote for Satan if he had an (R) after his name.

There is still hope for Type 3. At some point they will realize (if they haven't already) that the worst-case scenario with Trump is worse than what any candidate in the last 50 years offered. Embracing him would mean accepting that conservatism was a sham all along. Let's see whether they end up putting party before country.

[TeyshaBlue]

The only facet of Trump that appeals to me is the ongoing fracturization of the GOP. Hope Bernie has balls to continue to shake up the DNC.

[TeyshaBlue]

That is worth 4 years of Trump imo.

[Warlord23]

The only facet of Trump that appeals to me is the ongoing fracturization of the GOP. Hope Bernie has balls to continue to shake up the DNC.

Help me understand this. The Trump nomination has already fractured the party: Paul Ryan condemned Trump's latest outburst as racist, at least 3 GOP senators have said they oppose Trump, 4 out of the last 5 GOP nominees for President won't attend the convention, many other Republicans are going to avoid offering an endorsement.

What more do you think a Trump presidency will achieve? And is it worth giving that much power to a man of Trump's ignorance and thin skin? Even as a nominee, he's trying to smear a judge and influence a lawsuit - what do you think he will do with the full power of the US military and intelligence services?

[boutons_deux]

That is worth 4 years of Trump imo.

Trump plus a Repug Congress will make EVERYTHING much worse.

Politicians run for office to become (more) wealthy from BigCorp donors and insider dealing, no matter the solid or fractured state of either party.

BigCorp and esp BigFinance, owners of politicians at all levels, will continue looting America. They are unstoppable.

The only countervailing power against BigCorp and BigFinance is government, and government has been corrupted, compromised, infiltrated, captures by the oligarchy.

Repugs have figured they can still protect and increase their wealth with Trash as Pres. Just look at his tax cuts on the wealthy.

[TeyshaBlue]

Help me understand this. The Trump nomination has already fractured the party: Paul Ryan condemned Trump's latest outburst as racist, at least 3 GOP senators have said they oppose Trump, 4 out of the last 5 GOP nominees for President won't attend the convention, many other Republicans are going to avoid offering an endorsement.

What more do you think a Trump presidency will achieve? And is it worth giving that much power to a man of Trump's ignorance and thin skin? Even as a nominee, he's trying to smear a judge and influence a lawsuit - what do you think he will do with the full power of the US military and intelligence services?

I'm looking for the disillusion of the GOP. Only then can the party moderates regain a stage to speak from. In the long term, this would more than offset a 4 year Trump cluster-fuck and be better for the American public than the nutbar tea partier vs the neoliberals that dominate politics today.

[hitmanyr2k]

I have the mindset that I'll do well no matter who's President. I prospered even when Bush's administration took a flamethrower to this country :lol I think I can survive whatever Trump dishes out. The only way I would be concerned is if I was in the military. You have to be concerned about religious nutjobs or privileged chickenhawks controlling the military. These people usually have never seen a day of war in their lives and seem to give two shits about haphazardly chucking troops into war to satisfy their egos or holy crusade. Trump is another man-child blowhard who can probably be easily goaded into another war because he'll feel that he has to back up his tough talk.

[Warlord23]

I'm looking for the disillusion of the GOP. Only then can the party moderates regain a stage to speak from. In the long term, this would more than offset a 4 year Trump cluster-fuck and be better for the American public than the nutbar tea partier vs the neoliberals that dominate politics today.

Won't the party moderates be better placed to regain their collective voice if Trump loses in a landslide and the extremist fringe gets a rude awakening? If Trump wins, the takeover of the GOP by the nutcases will be complete - there will be no room for moderates.

[TeyshaBlue]

The far right is no friend of Trump. Ted losing was hard to handle but not disasterous. Trump winning might split that group off altogether which needs to happen. Purging the GOP of those guys should be goal #1.

[hater]

We survived 8 years of bush Cheney. Barely but survived.

Trump presidency would be cake.

I am actually more afraid of a ambassadorkilla presidency

She managed to get our ambassodr killed while at state dept. Wonder how much American blood will be spilled when if she were at the wh

[boutons_deux]

The far right

... astro-turfers financed by Kock Bros.

Kock Bros, etc are concentrating on keeping their fully owned far right, strict obstructionist ideologue red state/slave state whores in Congress, by concentrating on the down-ticket races.

They and other billionaires, BigCorp, BigFinance have the many $Bs to do it, will get ROI in the 100s, aided by Repug gerrymandering and voter suppression by the very Repugs whom Kock, etc put in power. aka "safe seats"

They will succeed.

the Repug base "revolting" and voting for Trash will continue to be screwed, since a Pres Trash wouldn't do anything for them.

[Th'Pusher]

The far right is no friend of Trump. Ted losing was hard to handle but not disasterous. Trump winning might split that group off altogether which needs to happen. Purging the GOP of those guys should be goal #1.

Where do you think they're going to go? requiring a plurality of votes for president effectively enshrines the two-party system into the constitution.

[CosmicCowboy]

We survived 8 years of bush Cheney. Barely but survived.

Trump presidency would be cake.

I am actually more afraid of a ambassadorkilla presidency

She managed to get our ambassodr killed while at state dept. Wonder how much American blood will be spilled when if she were at the wh

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachments/general-chit-chat/918746d1370961072-another-scandal-hillary-sex-drugs-prostitutes-minors-secret-service-cover-up-memos-what-difference-does-make.jpg

[baseline bum]

Where do you think they're going to go? requiring a plurality of votes for president effectively enshrines the two-party system into the constitution.

:cry Why do you hate America? :cry

[DMX7]

Hillary wants you to be afraid... be very afraid. It shifts focus away from how terrible she is. And while she may have accepted campaign contributions from Trump, done favors for him behind the scenes, and even attended his wedding... he is a horrible racist and we must elect her for the good of the country.

[SnakeBoy]

I have the mindset that I'll do well no matter who's President. I prospered even when Bush's administration took a flamethrower to this country :lol I think I can survive whatever Trump dishes out. The only way I would be concerned is if I was in the military. You have to be concerned about religious nutjobs or privileged chickenhawks controlling the military. These people usually have never seen a day of war in their lives and seem to give two shits about haphazardly chucking troops into war to satisfy their egos or holy crusade. Trump is another man-child blowhard who can probably be easily goaded into another war because he'll feel that he has to back up his tough talk.

Hillary is the chickenhawk this election cycle.

[SnakeBoy]

I'm looking for the disillusion of the GOP. Only then can the party moderates regain a stage to speak from. In the long term, this would more than offset a 4 year Trump cluster-fuck and be better for the American public than the nutbar tea partier vs the neoliberals that dominate politics today.


The far right is no friend of Trump. Ted losing was hard to handle but not disasterous. Trump winning might split that group off altogether which needs to happen. Purging the GOP of those guys should be goal #1.


I'm going to vote for Trump for the same reasons although even the Trump takeover doesn't give me much optimism the the GOP moderates will grow a backbone. If they were capable of standing up to the extreme right they would have let the very good Senate immigration bill pass and put the issue to bed. Actually when you put the Trump rhetoric aside his immigration stance (build a wall, reform the immigration system, and a touchback provision for legal status) is more moderate than what Romney proposed (build a fence, reform the immigration system, self deportation for illegals).

[spankadelphia]

Republicans have lost the Latino vote forever when they embraced Trump.

They've never had the black vote to begin with.

Latinos vote for socialist bullshit anyway. It was pointless to begin with. Democrats are intent on importing enough immigrants to make it impossible for whitey to vote them out. That's the real issue here. The left has been been waging demographic warfare against the white majority for 50+ years, and whitey's legitimate political avenues for dealing with it are drying up.

25 years ago, the good people of Commiefornia asked pretty please with a cherry on top in the form of Prop 187. It was passed 59/41. One of Carter's Federal judges struck it down. How progressive.

25 years later, it's "build a fucking wall."

Wanna guess what the next 25 years will bring?

[Quetzal-X]

Tough Shit .

[FuzzyLumpkins]

He isn't carrying minorities or women. I don't see him winning particularly due to the latter. You can wave your hands at a Fox News poll from April to try and make it seem interesting but Trump doesn't even have his party behind him as they are worried about the legislative ballot where another of their incumbents just got primaried.

Go dark money!

[TeyshaBlue]

Where do you think they're going to go? requiring a plurality of votes for president effectively enshrines the two-party system into the constitution.

No. Just more than one party. If the GOP splinters, as I hope, then the DNC will reign for an extended period. No question about that.

[TeyshaBlue]

I can only hope Sanders has the stones to continue to shake the DNC up.

[Spurminator]

I'm all for a splinter in the GOP party but not at the expense of Donald Trump selecting Justice Scalia's replacement.

[Th'Pusher]

No. Just more than one party. If the GOP splinters, as I hope, then the DNC will reign for an extended period. No question about that.


I'm all for a splinter in the GOP party but not at the expense of Donald Trump selecting Justice Scalia's replacement.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duverger%27s_law

[TeyshaBlue]

I understand Duvenger. The endplay is the tendency for a duality. Fine. Let a new party emerge.

[Th'Pusher]

I understand Duvenger. The endplay is the tendency for a duality. Fine. Let a new party emerge.

Your issues with the GOP have little to do with national elections. They haven't been able to secure the popular vote in a presidential election in decades. The extreme right have an amplified voice as a result of gerrymandering in the house with its origin in the 2010 census.

In in any event, Your fringe right are always going to drift toward whichever new party might emerge putting you right back where we are today. It's a structural flaw in the constitution imhmfo.

[z0sa]

I fear either of them winning. Even with his anti free trade stance i cant in good conscience support Trump's blatantly racist inflammatory rhetoric. And Hillary's New Democrat neoliberal agenda makes the Center feel more like the Center Right. When shit like rebuilding our roads and taxing the wealthy high rates during wartime become radical, well, what is there to say anymore...

[Drachen]

Oh I beg to differ in this case. Uncertainties, which Trump excels at, make the market move in dramatic fashion.

Just buy call options in the VIX .

[baseline bum]

I fear either of them winning. Even with his anti free trade stance i cant in good conscience support Trump's blatantly racist inflammatory rhetoric. And Hillary's New Democrat neoliberal agenda makes the Center feel more like the Center Right. When shit like rebuilding our roads and taxing the wealthy high rates during wartime become radical, well, what is there to say anymore...

Yeah, this election is probably even worse than Bush vs Gore. Conservative democrat vs white nationalist, what a fucking shitty choice.

[ducks]

Trump plus a Repug Congress will make EVERYTHING much worse.

Politicians run for office to become (more) wealthy from BigCorp donors and insider dealing, no matter the solid or fractured state of either party.

BigCorp and esp BigFinance, owners of politicians at all levels, will continue looting America. They are unstoppable.

The only countervailing power against BigCorp and BigFinance is government, and government has been corrupted, compromised, infiltrated, captures by the oligarchy.

Repugs have figured they can still protect and increase their wealth with Trash as Pres. Just look at his tax cuts on the wealthy.

I thought America was already great ?

[z0sa]

Yeah, this election is probably even worse than Bush vs Gore. Conservative democrat vs white nationalist, what a fucking shitty choice.

There's always Gary Johnson. Hahaha.

[rmt]

Oh I beg to differ in this case. Uncertainties, which Trump excels at, make the market move in dramatic fashion.

Here's something on using the stock market to predict the elections (the other way around):

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/06/08/analyst_major_stock_market_movements_tend_to_lead_ presidential_poll_shifts_by_about_eight_days.html

[TeyshaBlue]

Dude...

[TeyshaBlue]

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y64/teyshablue/Lebowski.jpg (http://s3.photobucket.com/user/teyshablue/media/Lebowski.jpg.html)

[pgardn]

Here's something on using the stock market to predict the elections (the other way around):

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/06/08/analyst_major_stock_market_movements_tend_to_lead_ presidential_poll_shifts_by_about_eight_days.html

Absolutely.

But Trump being so unpredictable is still germane because he is the Republican nominee.
When the public has no idea were a candidate really stands because he lies and backtracks, I would think uncertainty leads to people voting against that candidate.

What do you think? You really think he would build a wall?

[boutons_deux]

"When the public has no idea were a candidate really stands because he lies and backtracks"

a Trash spokesman said Trash's words don't mean anything, iow, take NOTHING seriously, and that they will make up policies after he's elected.

[rmt]

Absolutely.

But Trump being so unpredictable is still germane because he is the Republican nominee.
When the public has no idea were a candidate really stands because he lies and backtracks, I would think uncertainty leads to people voting against that candidate.

What do you think? You really think he would build a wall?

I am not stuck on a wall. I think that illegal immigration can be dealt with more efficiently and cheaply by using e-verify and HUGE fines to the employer who violates them - I see this as a win-win - employers won't do it and if they do, the government gets more money. If you take away illegals' reason for coming, that'll reduce the need for a wall. Then just enforce the immigration laws on the book. I'd be for amnesty for the 11 million, (if they haven't committed any crime), pay a fine, join the back of the line but no voting for 10 years and they must learn English (so they assimilate/integrate). I'd also get rid of sanctuary cities. As far as Trump is concerned, I'm afraid he'll have to at least start the wall because so much of his campaign is based on it.

With Trump - everything is out there - his mouth has no filter. Now, do I prefer knowing about all his faults and pettiness or do I prefer being deceived (by Hillary who will say and do anything to get elected). As far as the backtracking is concerned, most of that is because he doesn't understand whatever policy - whether (repub stance) abortion (because he really is pro-abortion) or H1-B visas, etc.

I'm hopeful that Trump can shake things up in Washington - only someone as bull-headed, so full of bravado could even try - anyone else would cave to public opinion, political correctness and these attacks from all sides including his own party. Hillary is just more of the same old, corrupt system. Anyways, the electoral college is already stacked against the republicans so my hope is very slim.

[rmt]

Apparently you missed the proclamation that at least she won't have a baby, the retard will force her to carry, to remind her of the event.

I do wonder if they would still make her have baby if the rapist were black though. That would be a tough decision I'm sure.

You know, I tell myself everyday to just ignore the filth that comes out of your mouth but when you bring race into the discussion, it is just so hypocritical. FYI, I was born and raised in a country where over 92% of the people are black - whose motto is "Out of many, one people," listening to reggae and Michael Jackson. My aunt is black, my cousin is half-black, my best friend was black, the woman who helped raise me while my parents worked is black - interracial relationships are commonplace where I come from. Your comment is so hypocritical considering you refer to me as a f****** mongoloid.

[Spurminator]

I fear either of them winning. Even with his anti free trade stance i cant in good conscience support Trump's blatantly racist inflammatory rhetoric. And Hillary's New Democrat neoliberal agenda makes the Center feel more like the Center Right. When shit like rebuilding our roads and taxing the wealthy high rates during wartime become radical, well, what is there to say anymore...

People just need to make sure to vote for the candidates down ballot where they have more of an effect on the outcome anyway.

[angrydude]

What's to be afraid of.

Everything bad he would try to do (raise tariffs) he would need Congress' permission to do.....and he won't get it.

Everything good he would try to do (gut administrative agencies) he could do on his own.

He's also clearly anti-war. He's a textbook isolationist pretending to be war monger to get votes.

I'll take the conservative Democrat over neo-con Hillary any day of the week.

[spurraider21]

You know, I tell myself everyday to just ignore the filth that comes out of your mouth but when you bring race into the discussion, it is just so hypocritical. FYI, I was born and raised in a country where over 92% of the people are black - whose motto is "Out of many, one people," listening to reggae and Michael Jackson. My aunt is black, my cousin is half-black, my best friend was black, the woman who helped raise me while my parents worked is black - interracial relationships are commonplace where I come from. Your comment is so hypocritical considering you refer to me as a f****** mongoloid.
pretty sure their motto was "its bobsled time, cool runnings"

[rmt]

pretty sure their motto was "its bobsled time, cool runnings"

The bobsled stunned me. I'm so used to only the sprinters - I've been cheering since Donald Quarrie won gold in 76, but Usain Bolt has surpassed them all. For such a small country to produce so many world class sprinters makes me so proud - well that and reggae. Our Blue Mountain coffee is pretty good too. And our beaches.

[spurraider21]

The bobsled stunned me. I'm so used to only the sprinters - I've been cheering since Donald Quarrie won gold in 76, but Usain Bolt has surpassed them all. For such a small country to produce so many world class sprinters makes me so proud - well that and reggae. Our Blue Mountain coffee is pretty good too. And our beaches.
sadly not your posters

[Kim Jong-il]

Trump can't do any worse than Bush, and we all got through that.

[ducks]

"When the public has no idea were a candidate really stands because he lies and backtracks"

a Trash spokesman said Trash's words don't mean anything, iow, take NOTHING seriously, and that they will make up policies after he's elected.




his words mean more then clinton

[rmt]

Wow you did it. You just said I'm not racist because I have black friends.


If you were remotely concerned about the condition of the black community in this country, you would not be a retarded blind follower who depends on others to think for you.

So not only are you every bad thing I thought, you're actually worse because you have sold out your "best" friend, nanny, and everyone of those 92 percent of the population you were raised with. I thought your prayers for finger rape was as low as anyone could go. But you topped it. Shame on you

Sigh. When one is born in a country such as mine, and raised primarily by someone who is black, one is colorblind. It's all I know and some of the most important people in my life are black. I don't even remember when I became aware that my skin color was different from my caretaker's. I suppose at some point I figured out that I ate both Jamaican and Chinese food depending on who was cooking - I became a blend of both cultures - I refer to myself as Jamaican Chinese because except for my skin color and food, almost everything I am is Jamaican (now of course, American is mixed in there).

I know it's hard to believe coming from the US that race can NOT be a big deal in other places, but I didn't even think about that until I came here and saw the divisiveness that the issue of race brings. The people in Jamaica do not have the attitude about race that is so prevalent in the US and it's not because of poverty or slavery as most in Jamaica are poor and descended from slaves. They don't blame anyone for their situation - there's no white privilege (or Asian, Indian, etc) oppression - they mostly all work hard because there is no welfare/social safety net in Jamaica - they depend on family, relatives and friends.

In the late 70s, the Prime Minister of Jamaica started to get very close to Cuba's Castro - this scared a lot of people - there was a mass migration to Miami, New York and Toronto. Those who could, including my family, fled so it's not like I had a choice. Anyways, I explain this so that you can see that there are other points of view and remind you of the inclusiveness and tolerance that the Democrat party (I'm assuming here that's the one you prefer) espouses.

[CosmicCowboy]

"poisoned"

freaking foul mouthed junior high drama queen.

[rmt]

If you are referring to Trump, I feel that he is the best of the candidates to help create an economy where we can ALL thrive - one with lower corporate tax rate, with less regulations so that more businesses won't be burdened, eliminating Obamacare. I don't particularly care what Trump thinks about women, race, etc. If the economy is thriving and people have jobs, a lot of our problems will be fixed. Even Obama is talking about lowering the corporate tax but it's too late in his presidency to help. And Hillary is talking about easing the burdens for businesses - but unfortunately for the Democrats, that in conflict with Obamacare, climate change (energy industry), etc. Lifted up is getting America back to work through jobs - not creating more dependency.

Rick Scott has signed a bill in which any child in Florida will be able to go to any public school (in 2017-18) he chooses (if there's space and not including the magnet/charter school which operate by lottery) - even across county lines. This is the kind of policy which will give children who are in bad schools the opportunity to go elsewhere and improve our education. It will force the bad schools to shape up when they start losing enrollment. It will create competition and better schools. This is the kind of policy that will benefit us - the consumer (of course, the teacher's unions don't like it). Compare that to Obamacare with its myriad of rules and regulations, where in Alaska, all but one company has bailed - as a result, the premiums are sky-high.

[101A]

Trump is a walking, talking IQ test that many have already failed - this thread is a great example of the flavors of Trumpism

Type 1: the fearful (ducks, rmt, spurtech) who've been inundated with talk radio / Fox news to believe that Obama has undermined America and Hillary will finish the job
Type 2: the angry (Dirk, Wild Cobra) who think others (Muslims, Hispanics, blacks, SJWs, gays, Jews, academia) are to blame for whatever is wrong, and Trump will lead underachieving white males to victory and set things right
Type 3: the so-called intellectuals (Cosmic, maybe Teysha) who normally lean right based on conservative principles (smaller government, lower taxes, moral values, individual liberties, states rights), who find themselves defending an unprincipled, amoral, childish, know-nothing con artist who has no interest in conservatism.

Types 1 and 2 won't change. They have cheered Trump even as he insulted the military, slammed GOP economic and foreign policy, flip-flopped, verifiably lied and used vulgar insults. At this point they would vote for Satan if he had an (R) after his name.

There is still hope for Type 3. At some point they will realize (if they haven't already) that the worst-case scenario with Trump is worse than what any candidate in the last 50 years offered. Embracing him would mean accepting that conservatism was a sham all along. Let's see whether they end up putting party before country.


You missed the 4th type - saw it on a Bumper Sticker.

"I'm for Trump because....
FUCK IT!"

[Winehole23]

GWB wasn't the end of us. Neither was Obama.

An HRC or Donald Trump presidency won't be the end of the world either.

[spankadelphia]

sigh

If you are "colorblind" And have all of these black friends, why do you support people who hate them because of their race? Seems someone as "tolerant" as you would want to see people lifted up instead of poisoned

They aren't hated around the world for the color of their skin. That's part of the big lie.

They are hated because of what they do.

And there will be no "lifting them up". The great experiment has failed.

How do I know this? I grew up in Memphis and saw the black community up close and personal. White guilt doesn't work on me. I know how the Democrat party machine works. I know how the racial grievance industry works. I know what kind of people they elect to positions of power when given the opportunity. I know what they do to formerly nice neighborhoods when the government moves them in down the street in Soviet style housing blocks, and eventually into the houses whites fled when their streets turn into warzones overnight. I know what they do every August when the college semester starts and students are carrying cash and Ipads and driving new cars their parents bought - they prowl the campus at night and rob them at gunpoint. Sometimes, if you don't have anything in your wallet, they'll just kill you. The media will describe it as a "robbery gone wrong" and it will be buried on page 12 of the Commercial Appeal while the Trayvon Martin case is blasting the airwaves for 18 months.

I've seen the neighborhoods, the schools, the billboards imploring local citizens not to throw their newborn babies in the dumpster - in the neighborhood my mother grew up in, no less. It was a whitetopia in the 70's and suffice to say baby dumpster diving wasn't one of the usual pasttimes of the locals.

Whites in the city made every possible concession. Turned over entire municipalities, neighborhoods, schools, almost an entire functioning first world city and plenty of tax dollars and valuable property to right the wrongs of the past. And to no avail. The city is on the brink of bankruptcy and violence is spilling into the few havens of taxpayers (whites) left, home invasions as far east as Collierville, driving them out of the metro area entirely. Now a gang war is brewing with MS-13 in North and Southeast Memphis.

I cannot be fooled. They are their own worst enemies.

I was raised liberal. Raised to value fairness and equality. Raised to abhor racism and backwards attitudes. College educated.

Even the nicest of whites run out of good will eventually.

[TheSanityAnnex]

They aren't hated around the world for the color of their skin. That's part of the big lie.

They are hated because of what they do.

And there will be no "lifting them up". The great experiment has failed.

How do I know this? I grew up in Memphis and saw the black community up close and personal. White guilt doesn't work on me. I know how the Democrat party machine works. I know how the racial grievance industry works. I know what kind of people they elect to positions of power when given the opportunity. I know what they do to formerly nice neighborhoods when the government moves them in down the street in Soviet style housing blocks, and eventually into the houses whites fled when their streets turn into warzones overnight. I know what they do every August when the college semester starts and students are carrying cash and Ipads and driving new cars their parents bought - they prowl the campus at night and rob them at gunpoint. Sometimes, if you don't have anything in your wallet, they'll just kill you. The media will describe it as a "robbery gone wrong" and it will be buried on page 12 of the Commercial Appeal while the Trayvon Martin case is blasting the airwaves for 18 months.

I've seen the neighborhoods, the schools, the billboards imploring local citizens not to throw their newborn babies in the dumpster - in the neighborhood my mother grew up in, no less. It was a whitetopia in the 70's and suffice to say baby dumpster diving wasn't one of the usual pasttimes of the locals.

Whites in the city made every possible concession. Turned over entire municipalities, neighborhoods, schools, almost an entire functioning first world city and plenty of tax dollars and valuable property to right the wrongs of the past. And to no avail. The city is on the brink of bankruptcy and violence is spilling into the few havens of taxpayers (whites) left, home invasions as far east as Collierville, driving them out of the metro area entirely. Now a gang war is brewing with MS-13 in North and Southeast Memphis.

I cannot be fooled. They are their own worst enemies.

I was raised liberal. Raised to value fairness and equality. Raised to abhor racism and backwards attitudes. College educated.

Even the nicest of whites run out of good will eventually.
Born and raised in Los Angeles, these fucks have no idea what it's actually like.

[Pelicans78]

Republicans have lost the Latino vote forever when they embraced Trump.

They've never had the black vote to begin with.

They had the black vote until JFK.

[Winehole23]

Born and raised in Los Angeles, these fucks have no idea what it's actually like.Memphis and LA are two cities in a rather large country. You and spankadelphia don't know what it's like for everyone else.

It's doubtful either one of you is telling a straight tale about Memphis and LA, but at least both of you are open about your racism.

[boutons_deux]

They had the black vote until JFK.

The Repugs passed Johnson's progressive legislation, while the slave state Dems voted against.

Then the slave state racist Dems all switched to become slave state racist Repugs, and the Repugs became the party of racists and other bigots.

[DPG21920]

I'm afraid for race relations if Trump wins. I'm afraid that with all of the progress this country has made with regards to race relation that gets swept under the rug seemingly, that it will give an excuse to say "see! told you this is no different than the days of slavery".

That is my concern. I feel now, even though people sometimes act like USA is some slave driver country that has made no progress (which is not only a lie, but really damaging to potential further growth), that Trump will give people the talking points they need to unravel any progress there.

[cd021]

They had the black vote until JFK.

Democrats have won the black vote since 1936. They have overwhelmingly voted Democrat since JFK.

This will be the 20th straight election where Democrat will win the Black vote in the Presidential election.

[cd021]

Republicans should be afraid of a Trump win. They have lost the Hispanic vote in 9 straight pres. elections.

Trump had an disapproval rating of 77% back in March, that was before the controversy with the reporter and the judge situation. There is a decent chance that Dems could win 85 percent of their vote. This could mean that Republicans could have lost the Hispanic vote going forward. They have not won the black vote in the past 19 elections, since before 1936 and that is almost certainly a lost cause.

Obama won 71% of the Hispanic back in '12

[spurraider21]

I'm afraid for race relations if Trump wins. I'm afraid that with all of the progress this country has made with regards to race relation that gets swept under the rug seemingly, that it will give an excuse to say "see! told you this is no different than the days of slavery".

That is my concern. I feel now, even though people sometimes act like USA is some slave driver country that has made no progress (which is not only a lie, but really damaging to potential further growth), that Trump will give people the talking points they need to unravel any progress there.
I feel like relations are significantly worse now than they were 8 years ago tbh

[boutons_deux]

Republicans should be afraid of a Trump win. They have lost the Hispanic vote in 9 straight pres. elections.

Trump had an disapproval rating of 77% back in March, that was before the controversy with the reporter and the judge situation. There is a decent chance that Dems could win 85 percent of their vote. This could mean that Republicans could have lost the Hispanic vote going forward. They have not won the black vote in the past 19 elections, since before 1936 and that is almost certainly a lost cause.

Obama won 71% of the Hispanic back in '12

Trump loses the Hispanic vote, and Repugs nearly always lose women, blacks significant in not huge margins. Repugs are so fucked.

[rmt]

When children are born, they are clean slates. It's what they are taught that forms the way they think and when it's perpetually drilled into them that they are being discriminated against (regardless of whether they are or not), it colors their attitude. Slavery is generations away, opportunity and affirmative action is all around but I think that that attitude holds them back - so much energy is put into the racial issue that they don't grab and take hold of the opportunities that are there.

I have previously related my experience as a Girl Scout Troop leader when I repeatedly announced another's troop's arts and craft event and asked everyone to sign up (to get a head count). The night before, two black moms who didn't take the time to sign up accused me - saying that the reason their girls were not allowed to go is because they are black. I was simply stunned that they would use that as an excuse. Turns out that they did end up going when 2 girls in the troop holding the event gave up their spots (crafts) for them. When people start using the excuse that "it's because I'm black", something is very wrong - they've been conditioned to do so - giving up responsibility for taking action on their own.

The key is education but the policies that democrats espouse and support like strong teachers' unions are in conflict with what is best for the children and the rest of us in general. Take Chicago, for example. High taxes, high spending, not living within their means, huge pension and health care obligations to public servants - all this takes away from money that should be spent on the kids' education. Here in Miami, magnet schools are deliberately put in bad neighborhoods in the hope of lifting the neighborhood's education but still the parents don't take advantage of it by even applying (probably through lack of education or simply not caring enough). Usually, in magnet/charter schools, parents are responsible for transportation but the schools are put in those bad neighbors so that even transportation is not a barrier for those kids and still the parents don't grab the opportunity. I hope that other states will follow Florida's example and allow freedom of choice in public schools - I think that will help to improve education and our schools. And yes, it can be done even in bad schools - look at Dr. Ben Carson's rise out of Detroit to the top of his field.

As I said earlier, I come from a place where most are poor and descended from slavery. In Jamaica, there is no blame put on anyone and BECAUSE there is no government interference, everybody simply works hard to improve their situation. There are also no laws like affirmative action that perpetuate the idea that somehow anyone is at a disadvantage because of race. I hope that the US could learn from a small country like Jamaica but this perpetuated divisiveness and so-called "help" keeps them voting democrat. Also, they can learn from the mass migration from Jamaica, that when there is any threat of government takeover, people will flee. There comes a point when they will not stay (either neighborhood, as in previous post, or country).

[boutons_deux]

"they are clean slates"

"Science has shown" you're full of bullshit. In the nature vs nurture discussion, BOTH play roles. iow, there is no "clean slate".

Even Christians swear a baby is born in a state of sin. LOL

[DPG21920]

I feel like relations are significantly worse now than they were 8 years ago tbh

I 100% disagree. There will always be racist people. You can't stop hate. But for the most part, black culture is not only accepted but embraced in mainstream America. We have a black president (how can that happen in a truly racist country?). We have black CEOs, coaches, actors & musicians that are beloved. There is more equality now than ever before.

We have gay black athletes feeling safe to come out in sports. There has been so much progress despite still having issues.

IMO, the days of just general racism are gone. There are pockets of it, but you will never eliminate any kind of radial thinking. What we still have and it's a big issue are the institutionalized policies that still punish minorities worse than their white counterparts (see Stanford Rape Trial).

That's a major issue but the gap that White Priveledge used to afford has shrunk consistently and black culture is not only accepted but adopted.

[rmt]

"they are clean slates"

"Science has shown" you're full of bullshit. In the nature vs nurture discussion, BOTH play roles. iow, there is no "clean slate".

Even Christians swear a baby is born in a state of sin. LOL




Boutons, you know that I'm not talking religion (which I rarely do here) - I'm talking about their attitude that results because of the perpetual drilling that they are being discriminated against because of their race.

[spurraider21]

Lol "these mongoloids"

I'm making an observation, not giving a stance on race. I feel like race related issues are dominating headlines significantly more now than they were 8-10 years ago

[DPG21920]

Lol "these mongoloids"

I'm making an observation, not giving a stance on race. I feel like race related issues are dominating headlines significantly more now than they were 8-10 years ago

I do think it's getting more play but I feel that's a sign of progress. No longer buried these things are being discussed openly. No where to hide any more.

[rmt]

Jesus Christ retard. You are the biggest racist on this board and that's really saying something.

Just because you had a black nanny (employee), and your aunt fucked a black guy, bet that went over well, you think you have some understanding of the black experience? Get the fuck out of here.

Institutional racism is alive and well amongst the hillbilly south. You really need to stop breathing.

It's my chinese uncle who married a black woman. Well, I did spend all my formative years among blacks who were not conditioned to think that they were being discriminated against. Maybe you can explain Chicago then (far removed from the hillbilly south). Do you talk like this and insult people in everyday talk?

[spurraider21]

I do think it's getting more play but I feel that's a sign of progress. No longer buried these things are being discussed openly. No where to hide any more.
Valid point but it does come along with pushback as a result

[spankadelphia]

Republicans should be afraid of a Trump win. They have lost the Hispanic vote in 9 straight pres. elections.

Trump had an disapproval rating of 77% back in March, that was before the controversy with the reporter and the judge situation. There is a decent chance that Dems could win 85 percent of their vote. This could mean that Republicans could have lost the Hispanic vote going forward. They have not won the black vote in the past 19 elections, since before 1936 and that is almost certainly a lost cause.

Obama won 71% of the Hispanic back in '12

Hispanics have never influence a Presidential election in any meaningful way. Most of them are in Texas or California which are solidly Red and Blue respectively. Romney could have gotten 80% of the Hispanic vote and still lost.

They vote 75% socialist anyway so what's the point in Republicans catering to them? If hispanics become a majority in the US the Constitution is going bye bye anyway.

[spankadelphia]

Memphis and LA are two cities in a rather large country. You and spankadelphia don't know what it's like for everyone else.

It's doubtful either one of you is telling a straight tale about Memphis and LA, but at least both of you are open about your racism.

I didn't even get into the half of it.

Human trafficking is a huge problem now because of the South American gangs moving in. The place I used to get my car serviced at in North Memphis was busted for trafficking - there were like 30 women stuffed in a garage with only a fan to keep them cool.

Sure enough, this same neighborhood was a whitetopia 30 years ago. Now, human trafficking.

You say Memphis and LA are just "two cities" when this violence and insanity is taking place at an alarming rate in dozens of cities around the country, mostly the minority-majority ones that whites built and were forced out of due to violence and societal malaise.

There will be a reckoning.

[rmt]

Only stupid and racist garbage like you. You have no idea how those people felt. They were employees and servants. Your lack of intelligence is only topped by your insulting lack of candor and understanding of how terrible the things you write are.

Slaves in the American south didn't think they were being discriminated against either.

The cycle of poverty in Urban areas happen because there is no opportunity. If you really cared, you would not blindly support the continuation of the abandonment of these people you understand so well because they were employees of your family and had to play a fucking step and fetch bullshit routine for you.

Seriously stop breathing

I don't think I have mistaken the love and care that my "nanny" (notice it's in quotes because she's really part of the family having lived with us for so long) provided and continues to show. She has never forgotten to send a card for any of my kids' birthday in all these years. Likewise, we have taken care of her in her retirement.

The ticket out of poverty in these urban areas is education which is stifled by Democrats' support of strong unions (whose self interest is more important than the education of the kids) and their spending ways which restricts funds going to benefit the kids. If kids think that others are against them, that limits what they strive for. Energy that should be put toward education is channelled into other things like gangs, drugs, etc.

Lack of candor? Don't think anyone could accuse me of that.

[baseline bum]

Lol "these mongoloids"

I'm making an observation, not giving a stance on race. I feel like race related issues are dominating headlines significantly more now than they were 8-10 years ago

Lots of anger boiling over at having a black president.

[spankadelphia]

Having a President who praises and eulogizes criminals like Michael Brown while denigrating ordinary hard working people with whom he has no personal or cultural connection whatsoever having grown up in Indonesia, one who sics the IRS on his political opponents, one who won't even utter the words "radical Islam" is making people very, very, very angry indeed. Many of these people voted for the SOB.

Once again, it was never about skin color. That's immaterial at the end of the day. He's a foreigner through and through who doesn't understand American culture (yes, we have a culture) and anyone with a brain realizes that. Who cares if he was born in Hawaii? Hawaii may as well be a foreign country. Having a leader who did not share the upbringing and cultural values of the nation he lived in is unthinkable to the rest of the world. It's as if a giant joke has been played on us.

But yeah, keep dismissing it as "racism". Keep shutting down your brain and pathologizing your opposition as a bunch of brainless hillbillies.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.” - Sun Tzu

[spankadelphia]

How do you suppose we "fix" the education system? More money?

lol

It's not the schools... it's the students.

Demography is destiny.

[Clipper Nation]

Jesus Christ another one of these mongoloids.

Racism is is always a part of this culture. Fucking stupid people need fear to be kept in line. The attack of the fucked up rwnj echo chamber that thinks for you pieces of shit on this president started as soon as he was a threat to win.

The fucking birther movement which the brain that thinks for you fucking retards turned into the mongoloid tea party was built from the racist element of the "right" which is most of of it.

This coded bullshit language has been around forever. The ONLY semblance of Reagan still existing in the party of mentally deficients.
^ This faggot has one of the shittiest schticks on ST, bar none. A low-rent Boutons impersonator in the Politics forum, gets trolled by fucking KoolAid_Man of all people into writing dissertations about how he's gay in the NBA Forum.

[Big Dog]

^ This faggot has one of the shittiest schticks on ST, bar none. A low-rent Boutons impersonator in the Politics forum, gets trolled by fucking KoolAid_Man of all people into writing dissertations about how he's gay in the NBA Forum.
:lol He meltdowns and repeatedly goes off on any take he responds to. I could smell the vaginal discharge coming from that pussy when he shadow responded to everyone one of my posts. Reading his shitful takes in the political forum only makes further light of how shitty a poster he is.

[DPG21920]

It's amazing to me, at this critical time in the world, the leaders of the free world (America) are having to choose between Trump & Clinton? Just great.

[boutons_deux]

How do you suppose we "fix" the education system? More money?

lol

It's not the schools... it's the students.

Demography is destiny.

No, it's underfinanced schools, and poorly trained, poorly paid teachers.

[rmt]

How do you suppose we "fix" the education system? More money?

lol

It's not the schools... it's the students.

Demography is destiny.

IMO, the way to fix the system is to allow freedom of choice in public schools (which fosters competition) and to make it easier to get rid of bad teachers (virtually impossible with the strong teachers' unions). With freedom of movement, enrollment at bad schools will drop - they will be forced to improve by getting rid of bad teachers or close. More money always helps but it really doesn't cost a lot to educate children IF the teacher is good. If the teacher is bad, no amount of money will help. More important is setting the (student) expectation of high achievement - teaching the skills necessary to go on to college or trade/vocational school.

I definitely don't think that demography is destiny. The student has to have the desire to learn and the teacher has to have the ability to teach the skill. Unless a child has some disability/vision problem or dyslexia, I am fairly confident that I could teach that child to read or math up to Algebra 1 level (and very cheaply) - I've done it with 3 kids of varying levels.

[HI-FI]

It's amazing to me, at this critical time in the world, the leaders of the free world (America) are having to choose between Trump & Clinton? Just great.
anyone you like? Feeling the Bern?

[DPG21920]

anyone you like? Feeling the Bern?

I prob like Bern more than anyone at the moment but he has 0 shot at winning so doesn't matter.

[HI-FI]

I prob like Bern more than anyone at the moment but he has 0 shot at winning so doesn't matter.
i like him on a personal level but not in the mood for a Marxist as a president, especially with Venezuela turning into a recent shitshow. you become more liberal since living in Austin D?

[DPG21920]

i like him on a personal level but not in the mood for a Marxist as a president, especially with Venezuela turning into a recent shitshow. you become more liberal since living in Austin D?

Not that I know of :lol. I have always been sympathetic towards my fellow man/woman. I always felt the need to mentor and help where I can and I have legit connected with people.

I believe in hard work, education and taking responsibility for one's actions, but I can also be truthful that some have it way easier than others.

I don't love Bern, but IMO, we are at the point where what is most important is someone who is really smart & truly a good person to lead us.

[spankadelphia]

No, it's underfinanced schools, and poorly trained, poorly paid teachers.

Most expensive education system in the world and it isn't even close. We spend more on each student than any other country and many of those dollars are allocated to "bad" schools and the results stay the same. Teachers are educated just fine; teaching in an inner city causes many teachers intense psychological stress and even subjects them to physical abuse to the point they wash out in 2-3 years.

It's the students.

[HI-FI]

Not that I know of :lol. I have always been sympathetic towards my fellow man/woman. I always felt the need to mentor and help where I can and I have legit connected with people.

I believe in hard work, education and taking responsibility for one's actions, but I can also be truthful that some have it way easier than others.

I don't love Bern, but IMO, we are at the point where what is most important is someone who is really smart & truly a good person to lead us.
i hear ya. It would be great if someone truly good ran, someone not mired in bullshit ideology just in common sense and leading the way. I just don't think it's possible, perhaps the powers that be have too much pull and will only allow one of their figureheads to have the capital in order to run. the media is borderline worthless as well imo. so i'm probably way more cynical than you but i hope for the best.

[Splits]

I don't care that you suck his cock. You are a fucking moron poser too.

I I get that your small penis and your fear of admitting your sexuality makes you act out and have to hold onto a gun like it's another man's cock. But the reality is you are the problem.

:wow

:lmao

[spurraider21]

I feel like relations are significantly worse now than they were 8 years ago tbh
:wakeup

[pgardn]

I am definitely worried.

Im just hoping we can survive 4 years of Hillary. I have a profound mistrust of the Clintons. I just cannot believe the Republicans actually put a clown up. Some Republicans actually realize they have to accomplish something doable.

A Fckn wall... worst idea ever. And it does not stop there.

I also think some Republicans feel they will be assured of the WH in 4 years after Hillary. The Supreme Court has to worry them. Especially since Hillary can put up a more liberal judge as the Republicans refused to hear Obama's choice.

[Fabbs]

Trumps insecurity makes him scary on the military front.
He's a schemer big time in the business arena but then so is Shillary.

I wanted Bern.

[boutons_deux]

If Trash wins

If Congress is controlled by Repugs, it will be a disaster, he'll sign every piece of shit-for-Americans that the Repugs shovel to him.

If Congress is controlled by Dems, it will be a "strict obstructionist" disaster, he'll veto EVERY Dem bill.

[spurraider21]

I'm afraid for race relations if Trump wins. I'm afraid that with all of the progress this country has made with regards to race relation that gets swept under the rug seemingly, that it will give an excuse to say "see! told you this is no different than the days of slavery".

That is my concern. I feel now, even though people sometimes act like USA is some slave driver country that has made no progress (which is not only a lie, but really damaging to potential further growth), that Trump will give people the talking points they need to unravel any progress there.


I feel like relations are significantly worse now than they were 8 years ago tbh


I 100% disagree. There will always be racist people. You can't stop hate. But for the most part, black culture is not only accepted but embraced in mainstream America. We have a black president (how can that happen in a truly racist country?). We have black CEOs, coaches, actors & musicians that are beloved. There is more equality now than ever before.

We have gay black athletes feeling safe to come out in sports. There has been so much progress despite still having issues.

IMO, the days of just general racism are gone. There are pockets of it, but you will never eliminate any kind of radial thinking. What we still have and it's a big issue are the institutionalized policies that still punish minorities worse than their white counterparts (see Stanford Rape Trial).

That's a major issue but the gap that White Priveledge used to afford has shrunk consistently and black culture is not only accepted but adopted.
:lmao

[lefty]

lmao

[FrostKing]

5 years of unhinged hatred. Ended up in bed with media, big tech and big Corp. Along with China.

"At what price". They sold you the messages and you turned into their puppet. To rid yourself of "America First" you sided with all the enemies.

[ChumpDumper]

5 years of unhinged hatred. Ended up in bed with media, big tech and big Corp. Along with China.

"At what price". They sold you the messages and you turned into their puppet. To rid yourself of "America First" you sided with all the enemies.:lol you lost

Your guy is the worst president ever.

[FrostKing]

:lol you lost

Your guy is the worst president ever.
Who is your guy/corporation/movement. :lol

[ChumpDumper]

Who is your guy/corporation/movement. :lolPlease keep crying like a little girl.:lmao

[FrostKing]

Please keep crying like a little girl.:lmao
Look at your past 2 posts. Please regroup or stop wasting bandwidth.

[vy65]

I think he's got enough bravado to shake things up in Washington. He obviously doesn't care what anyone thinks, doesn't care about any future political career, doesn't care about the money from donors since he's got his own. As far as embarrassment is concerned will it be any worse than red line in the sand, ISIS being a JV team and that they're contained? He'll surround himself with political people who will advise him on military/foreign stuff and run with what he thinks regarding the economy. Fix the economy and a lot of our problems will lessened - when we have jobs, we can help ourselves and others.

:lmao

[hater]

I am afraid if Clinton wins

Nailed it

[hater]

We survived 8 years of bush Cheney. Barely but survived.

Trump presidency would be cake.

I am actually more afraid of a ambassadorkilla presidency

She managed to get our ambassodr killed while at state dept. Wonder how much American blood will be spilled when if she were at the wh

Nailed it

[ChumpDumper]

Look at your past 2 posts. Please regroup or stop wasting bandwidth.:lol begging me to stop saying you lost

[vy65]

Nailed it

No, you really didn't

[Winehole23]

Nailed it"muh Benghazi" is worse than 400,000 COVID deaths.

You called it.

[hater]

No, you really didn't

I did. Shillary is a nutcase and more dangerous than orange clown

[hater]

"muh Benghazi" is worse than 400,000 COVID deaths.

You called it.

So no americans woulda died of covid had shillary been president?

Thats your sales pitch? :lol

[ChumpDumper]

:lol hater instantly starts pitching straw.

[vy65]

So no americans woulda died of covid had shillary been president?

Thats your sales pitch? :lol

This is not the response of one who's prognostication "nailed it"

[Splits]

:lmao hater so desperate for even the smallest W he's gone crazier than a qtard, like one thing means another if you look really hard and switch the definition of words and then... "MOAB" or as he says "nailed it".

[Splits]

The reality is, hater has a problem with women in authoritative positions. He's a small man. Its why he is still dinging.

[Winehole23]

The reality is, hater has a problem with women in authoritative positions.We got a few of those here.

[Joseph Kony]

The far right is no friend of Trump. Ted losing was hard to handle but not disasterous. Trump winning might split that group off altogether which needs to happen. Purging the GOP of those guys should be goal #1.

LOL

[Will Hunting]

The reality is, hater has a problem with women in authoritative positions. He's a small man. Its why he is still dinging.
He’s your stereotypical machismo obsessed spic. That’s why he hates women in positions of authority and loves Trump.

[Splits]

He’s your stereotypical machismo obsessed spic. That’s why he hates women in positions of authority and loves Trump.

lol at the bolded.

also don't forget Erdogan, Maduro, Putin, King Kong, etc