NBA needs to reduce the number of RS games..

[HarlemHeat37]

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/16009898/nba-injury-problem-scheduling-one

Good article, tbh, interesting quotes from Kobe, Pat Riley and Gary Vittti..

TL;DR: AAU basketball, International ball and the extreme difficulty of defending the 3-point shot is killing the bodies of players much earlier than in previous eras of NBA ball..

[midnightpulp]

I'm torn here.

One side of me agrees since it's obviously much harder to defend now than in any other era in NBA history.

But the other side of me likes the long season because it makes roster building more demanding, thus a more interesting game for us basketball nerds to dissect. A shorter season means roster building will basically be about star chasing more than ever before instead of having to build a good bench in addition to your starters and stars.

I think that's why a lot of stars like Kobe and Dirk are in favor of it, because it means more minutes for them and thus more padding, especially in the case of the former.

[Caltex2]

The NBA is fine as it is. In general, every team faces every other team in their conference in a quadruple round-robin while playing every other team in a double round-robin or most importantly, playing in every single NBA arena every season while also making conference play matter. The NBA is big on making sure every team plays in every arena, so in theory every NBA city gets to see every player.

Baseball is absurd, they play almost every day for 6 months but every team rarely plays in some cities. I realize they used to actually be completely different leagues but they are exactly the same now under the same exact governing body now. All those games and yet they don't all play each other...it's mindboggling.

[ambchang]

But the x-men like human mutation and advanced training methods have allowed today's NBA to make quantum leaps in both endurance and skills.

If anything, the NBA should make the season 182 games, playing everyday for 6 months straight, plus the playoffs because NBA players are way too fit to only play 82 games.

[daslicer]

But the x-men like human mutation and advanced training methods have allowed today's NBA to make quantum leaps in both endurance and skills.

If anything, the NBA should make the season 182 games, playing everyday for 6 months straight, plus the playoffs because NBA players are way too fit to only play 82 games.

:lol With the Eastern Bloc training these guys have received physically the NBA schedule is too easy for them.

[Splits]

:lol Today's NBA

[Killakobe81]

I'm torn here.

One side of me agrees since it's obviously much harder to defend now than in any other era in NBA history.

But the other side of me likes the long season because it makes roster building more demanding, thus a more interesting game for us basketball nerds to dissect. A shorter season means roster building will basically be about star chasing more than ever before instead of having to build a good bench in addition to your starters and stars.

I think that's why a lot of stars like Kobe and Dirk are in favor of it, because it means more minutes for them and thus more padding, especially in the case of the former.

I am sure a good data set is a good reason to keep the season length :lol
What about guys liek Pop who rest players anyway doesnt that mess with the numbers of interesting games to dissect?
What about teams playing on 4th game in 5 nights vs a rested team?

Im all for nostalgia, love the 80's and some of the 90's ball but just because it has been this way for years doesnt mean it's the best way.Doesnt Pop agree it's to long with the way he manages his roster? since everyone lauds the streak of playoffs and 50 wins etc. shouldnt we do things the Pop way instead?

[hitmanyr2k]

I guess it's not enough that they've removed contact and rough play from the game. Now they want a shorter schedule :lol

[Killakobe81]

Harlem is right good article.
Even if you ignore Dirk and Kobe ...
We have cubes and LeBron who could both stand to lose money by shortening games advocating the same as those two.
In fact Kobe is retired and dirk doesnt have many years left and they still are in favor of this ..not sure what Mid was getting at.

Or does mid like seeing the spurs sit Manu/Duncan/Kiwi/LMA out of games for "rest" or "age" reasons?

[Killakobe81]

I guess it's not enough that they've removed contact and rough play from the game. Now they want a shorter schedule :lol

I think Greenberg is an idiot but the point he makes on Mike& mike about people paying big $, some foreign fans plan trips to the states to see Dirk, Manu etc. play only to have the coach sit out their favorite star because of the schedule grind ... that is BAD for business. I do agree the league has gotten soft despite the advances in medicine etc. But it's a business first and foremost.

BTW Gotta give Jordan credit sure he hit the gym, but he also hit the casino, golf course radom porn stars and strippers and still played the full schedule.:toast

[Arcadian]

Why is this just now coming up? Nobody complained when it was Tim Duncan in the Finals every other year playing on one good ankle/knee. Now that it's Steph Curry, everyone's all butthurt.

Not sure how defending the 3 is killing anyone's body. Sure you have to run out on the perimeter more and take the occasional hard screen, but if anything players who live in the paint suffer more wear and tear.

[hitmanyr2k]

BTW Gotta give Jordan credit sure he hit the gym, but he also hit the casino, golf course radom porn stars and strippers and still played the full schedule.:toast

Pretty much this :lol

https://youtu.be/3oCt7yWwHL8?t=30m55s

[Darth_Pelican]

They also need to reduce the number of teams so the product isn't so watered down.

[lefty]

But the x-men like human mutation and advanced training methods have allowed today's NBA to make quantum leaps in both endurance and skills.

If anything, the NBA should make the season 182 games, playing everyday for 6 months straight, plus the playoffs because NBA players are way too fit to only play 82 games.


:lol With the Eastern Bloc training these guys have received physically the NBA schedule is too easy for them.


:lol Today's NBA
:lol
HarlemHeat37 always hiding tbh

[Thread]

They also need to reduce the number of teams so the product isn't so watered down.

Get a gun & a big lunch. You're in for a long siege.

Everyone, including "us" are lying our asses off. Nobody is going to give up one game, or, one player. None. Truth be told is if they could get away with it they'd expand the season & the league.

[Killakobe81]

Get a gun & a big lunch. You're in for a long siege.

Everyone, including "us" are lying our asses off. Nobody is going to give up one game, or, one player. None. Truth be told is if they could get away with it they'd expand the season & the league.

This. It's grand idea but fantasy. The recently retired Vitti spoke truth he did not want to give up 10% like Riley suggested and I am 100% sure the Lakers were not his only clients at the time. People are greedy and I cant blame them I dont want a 10% cut either.

ONLY way I can see a change is if the league expands overseas and maybe because of travel-length they may have to look at shortening season to get the union to agree.

Otherwise we stuck at 30 and 82

[Caltex2]

They also need to reduce the number of teams so the product isn't so watered down.

I wish I could give rep points, that's the best post of this thread. Pro sports are watered down due to over-expansion. Concentrate the talent, and the chances of there being too many or possibly any 76ers drops significantly.

[~O~]

Yep. Spoil the players even more. That'll change things. The players in the league need to increase their quality of play so the regular season can not be set on one to three teams.

[Joseph Kony]

meh. back in the day, defense wasn't very complex and people were getting beat on the court left and right in and 82 game season. I understand the stress put on the body from switching on the perimeter constantly, but still, i don't buy it as the reason injuries are so prevalent. it's unfortunate but the league is just unlucky right now in that department, imo

[Ghazi]

Should reduce it to 72 games.

[Ginobilly]

Yep. Spoil the players even more. That'll change things. The players in the league need to increase their quality of play so the regular season can not be set on one to three teams.


They need to cut those ridiculous contracts and structure them more like the NFL or like a real job: You don't produce or hustle, fire them and hire another guy from the d-league. The quality of the product would go up real quick! Bye, bye, bye guaranteed millions! It's like their brothers in Africa: why work hard to develop our societies when whitey gives us everything for free.

[Caltex2]

Yes, guaranteed contracts are a double edged sword but as far as quality of play goes, they suck.

[The Gemini Method]

Why not skip the RS and just do the playoffs? J/K there should be a shortening of the NBA season and the MLB season as well.

[RD2191]

Too many shitty pointless games. 62-64 games is enough.

[lefty]

Why not a non playoff championship format, with a relegation system and no draft?

You're gonna see more motivated teams and no tanking tbh

:lol draft system
:lol rewarding lazy GMs

[Silver&Black]

You're gonna see more motivated teams and no tanking tbh

What's that povertyball league that if you finish last you go to the "D-League". The only way to get back to the big time is to win the "D-League"?

That'll stop tanking...

[Floyd Pacquiao]

How about getting rid of preseason & back to backs. Just start it a half month earlier

[-21-]

What's that povertyball league that if you finish last you go to the "D-League". The only way to get back to the big time is to win the "D-League"?

That'll stop tanking...

:lol That's actually a very interesting idea.

If the NBA wants a better product, stopping tanking and abolishing the conferences are their best options. A shortened season won't happen, to much money will be lost.

[TDMVPDPOY]

reduce games

would they reduce pay packet also?

[Silver&Black]

:lol That's actually a very interesting idea.

If the NBA wants a better product, stopping tanking and abolishing the conferences are their best options. A shortened season won't happen, to much money will be lost.

I still don't know the exact league. Just saw the other day that this team finished last, got back to the "big leagues", then actually won it this year. They had 5000-1 odds, and they were spotlighting some guy who actually bet 10 dollars on them. They're were also mentioning things you could bet on that were 5000-1 odds. You can bet right now that if Elvis is found alive (you can actually bet on that :lol)....that is a 5000-1. In comparison, Tyson vs. Douglas (the biggest underdog/upset in boxing) had 50-1 odds.

[Stalin]

:lol Today's NBA


Co sign

[tbdog]

What's that povertyball league that if you finish last you go to the "D-League". The only way to get back to the big time is to win the "D-League"?

That'll stop tanking...

It will never ever happen. I don't think it even happens in any American sport. Tbh, the whole salary and contracts thing would have the change dramatically.

[lefty]

What's that povertyball league that if you finish last you go to the "D-League". The only way to get back to the big time is to win the "D-League"?

That'll stop tanking...

Yeah that's what I meant

[Seventyniner]

Easy version:
Keep the schedule at 82. If a team plays two road games in the same city in a season, have them be on back-to-back nights. With no travel in between, the b2b isn't such a big deal. This could drastically reduce travel, especially if you make long road trips and long homestands the norm.

Hard version:
Keep the schedule the same. Expand rosters to 19-20. Each player can only appear in 66 games in the regular season, no restrictions in the playoffs. Trades don't reset this count. Only 15 players can dress for any one game.

[Caltex2]

They'll almost never have a team play in the same arena on back-to-back nights unless it's the Lakers-Clippers. Too much TV money is at stake plus a player could be einjured and thus that market will miss seeeing that player that season.

[TDMVPDPOY]

even if you have all the powerhouse teams playing more games against each other at the expense of 2 games against shitty teams, those shiity teams still wont make up the disparity to get a playoff spot...

[phyzik]

I wouldn't put it past Kobe to be suggesting fewer games just to ensure no one surpasses his stats. He is that vain.

[Killakobe81]

I wouldn't put it past Kobe to be suggesting fewer games just to ensure no one surpasses his stats. He is that vain.

Seriously? What stats can he maintain? durant/Lebron will pass him scoring wise barring injury and less games makes it more likely someone tops 81 and the breaks the 3 point record not less likely, he doesnt really have any other "Records" that are not Laker related ...

[LkrFan]

Disagree with purposely shortening the season. To do so will have Spur Fans trying to remove The Asterisk! from their first rang. :lol

[Thread]

I wouldn't put it past Kobe to be suggesting fewer games just to ensure no one surpasses his stats. He is that vain.

Rent free in a completely vacant apartment.

[Killakobe81]

Rent free in a completely vacant apartment.

Thread with the goods ...

[Kawhitstorm]

I still don't know the exact league. Just saw the other day that this team finished last, got back to the "big leagues", then actually won it this year. They had 5000-1 odds, and they were spotlighting some guy who actually bet 10 dollars on them.

MmNUDdycojc

[UZER]

Disagree with purposely shortening the season. To do so will have Spur Fans trying to remove The Asterisk! from their first rang. :lol

What asterisk?

[LkrFan]

What asterisk?

1999 featured a 50-game season. Your first "rang" came in 1999. Fact: 50/82=0.61. Therefore, Spurs have 4.61 rangs. The Asterisk! stays son. :lol

[lefty]

MmNUDdycojc

:cry Mahrez

[Clipper Nation]

1999 featured a 50-game season. Your first "rang" came in 1999. Fact: 50/82=0.61. Therefore, Spurs have 4.61 rangs. The Asterisk! stays son. :lol
Every team, including your Lakers who got Swept! out of the Forum, played the same 50 games. The Asterisk! doesn't exist, son. :lol

[LkrFan]

Every team, including your Lakers who got Swept! out of the Forum, played the same 50 games. The Asterisk! doesn't exist, son. :lol

Interesting post from a self-proclaimed "Clipper" Fan :downspin:

[K...]

1999 featured a 50-game season. Your first "rang" came in 1999. Fact: 50/82=0.61. Therefore, Spurs have 4.61 rangs. The Asterisk! stays son. :lol

son, i can shave your minny titles by 10% 60 game seasons!!!!~!!!!! Those teams couldn't handle a 82 game season

[LkrFan]

son, i can shave your minny titles by 10% 60 game seasons!!!!~!!!!! Those teams couldn't handle a 82 game season

60 was the standard back then. They didn't dip to 40 games then declare the winner of that farce of a reduced season "champions" :downspin:

[Kawhitstorm]

Every team, including your Lakers who got Swept! out of the Forum, played the same 50 games. The Asterisk! doesn't exist, son. :lol

Phil came up w/ the Asterisk for HIMSELF b/c he was out of the league but the rest of the league just rolled w/ it out of envy.:lol

[Silver&Black]

MmNUDdycojc

What league is that?