Boban expects to resign with Spurs

[coachmac87]

Sources close to Boban say he expects to be back. Per Bleacher Report

[spurs50_]

Good news, hope we use him.

[coachmac87]

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2645141-boban-marjanovic-latest-news-rumors-and-speculation-on-free-agent-centerI'm

[K...]

Looking more and more likely we're bringing the same team back. On to 2017.

[playbonner15]

Looking more and more likely we're bringing the same team back. On to 2017.
LMAO if it aint broke right :bang

[coachmac87]

Looking more and more likely we're bringing the same team back. On to 2017.

I don't see how you assume that with this report.

[Chinook]

I don't see how you assume that with this report.

Boban is going to cost a great deal of flexibility. It's going to get a lot harder to dramatically change the team is he gets anything other than a small offer.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Looking more and more likely we're bringing the same team back. On to 2017.

Sure sounds this way. If we get another season of Tim and Manu I'd be fine with it. Would like them to put the ball in Kawhi's hands more and let him run PnR and create.

[TheGoldStandard]

Better be for the least possible amount but watch the Spurs offer him something like 2 years 12 million.. It's a bargain

[tmtcsc]

He's not worth it. After it was all said and done, Boban gave good spot minutes but he's soft, can't rebound, lacks mobility and sucks on defense. He's worth no more than 2 mill per season - if that.

[TheGoldStandard]

He's not worth it. After it was all said and done, Boban gave good spot minutes but he's soft, can't rebound, lacks mobility and sucks on defense. He's worth no more than 2 mill per season - if that.

But absolutely everything you just said is a Spurs player profile. This guy might be a Spur for life collecting checks for being tall.

[Dex]

http://www.poundingtherock.com/2016/6/8/11890630/boban-marjanovic-likely-to-re-sign-with-the-spurs

Bring back the Boban!

[Dex]

Why does everyone assume that Boban is going to command some huge salary?

Yes, he's fucking ginormous and showed some basketball skills, but he didn't exactly take the league by storm (except for with his smile :) ). He had a moderately successful rookie season which was spent mostly on the bench.

There MAY be some team willing to go out on a limb and offer him a big contract based off that...but it won't be the Spurs. They will pay him what he is worth, and if he really wants to stay in San Antonio where he seems very comfortable and was a fan favorite, it will be up to him to decide whether that money is worth it or not.

[Chinook]

Why does everyone assume that Boban is going to command some huge salary?

Yes, he's fucking ginormous and showed some basketball skills, but he didn't exactly take the league by storm (except for with his smile :) ). He had a moderately successful rookie season which was spent mostly on the bench.

There MAY be some team willing to go out on a limb and offer him a big contract based off that...but it won't be the Spurs. They will pay him what he is worth, and if he really wants to stay in San Antonio where he seems very comfortable and was a fan favorite, it will be up to him to decide whether that money is worth it or not.

It doesn't have to be huge to be prohibitive. Even if he gets the MLE, that'll take up almost all of the team's realistic flexibility. While him thinking he'll stay a Spur implies that he is not going to seek a huge contract, unless it's for the room exception or LLE, the Spurs are going to have to make some potential sacrifices or miss some opportunities to keep him.

[minuzzo21]

Good news, Next year he should have more playing time

[cjw]

It doesn't have to be huge to be prohibitive. Even if he gets the MLE, that'll take up almost all of the team's realistic flexibility. While him thinking he'll stay a Spur implies that he is not going to seek a huge contract, unless it's for the room exception or LLE, the Spurs are going to have to make some potential sacrifices or miss some opportunities to keep him.

His cap hold will be just $1.5 million vs. a minimum salary close to $500k. $1 million of flexibility lost and they can get done whatever they need to and then resign him. Yes, someone could throw an offer sheet at him but still have three days before the go/no-go decision, while that other team clogs up its much needed cap space for the critical early moments of free agency.

With the cap going up and limited FAs on the market, you may see more teams take swipes at RFAs but usually those dominoes don't fall right off the bat. This report may have been leaked to dissuade other teams from even trying.

And in the interim period, if they REALLY need that $1mm of cap space, they can always rescind his offer like they did with CoJo last year.

[Chinook]

His cap hold will be just $1.5 million vs. a minimum salary close to $500k. $1 million of flexibility lost and they can get done whatever they need to and then resign him.

Nope. They don't have his Bird rights. They right of first refusal, but they'll need to use either an exception or cap space to match the offer unless it's for less than the QO. Honestly, his cap hold is completely pointless to consider. He's a regular free agent for cap purposes. There's no "dealing with him after".

[UZER]

I like Boban, but he has the euro big man softness syndrome like Kevin Love. He pushes, but when a big man pushes him even harder back, he backs down and goes to finesse ball.

The play where is dunked on the whole OKC team is how he needs to start the season. Even if he's called for fouls early on, he just needs to keep pounding that rock until the refs adjust to his size...you would hope.

[tmtcsc]

Is too much to ask for some players who have some athleticism and "nasty" in them ? Guys who can get out and run the court too?

[DrSteffo]

I like him a lot and hope he remains a Spur. He is a much more valuable player than let's say Kyle Anderson because he actually helps the team and competes.

[TheGreatYacht]

He's not worth it. After it was all said and done, Boban gave good spot minutes but he's soft, can't rebound, lacks mobility and sucks on defense. He's worth no more than 2 mill per season - if that.
:lmao We're talking about Boban, not Diaw and West...

[TheGreatYacht]

I like him a lot and hope he remains a Spur. He is a much more valuable player than let's say Kyle Anderson because he actually helps the team and competes.
Great post

[dabom]

I like him a lot and hope he remains a Spur. He is a much more valuable player than let's say Kyle Anderson because he actually helps the team and competes.

Top 20 poster in my book. :toast

[AFMadison]

Sure sounds this way. If we get another season of Tim and Manu I'd be fine with it. Would like them to put the ball in Kawhi's hands more and let him run PnR and create.
So more 2 man ISO ball?

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It doesn't have to be huge to be prohibitive. Even if he gets the MLE, that'll take up almost all of the team's realistic flexibility. While him thinking he'll stay a Spur implies that he is not going to seek a huge contract, unless it's for the room exception or LLE, the Spurs are going to have to make some potential sacrifices or miss some opportunities to keep him.

To me, it's evidence of Timmay not coming back. PATFO likely have a feeling for where Timmay is headed and have told Boban, we're bringing you back.

I really can't imagine Timmay wanting to come back after the latter part of the season and postseason he had. Pop didn't even use him that much, at crunch time. So either he had some mysterious injury and wasn't at full strength despite all the rest he had, or he knew it also and told Pop he wasn't the best option. Or he did2 tell Pop that and still got benched, which is probably worse. And if it is an injury, do you really want to spend an offseason rehabbing to come back for your 20th year?

[Hoops Czar]

It doesn't have to be huge to be prohibitive. Even if he gets the MLE, that'll take up almost all of the team's realistic flexibility. While him thinking he'll stay a Spur implies that he is not going to seek a huge contract, unless it's for the room exception or LLE, the Spurs are going to have to make some potential sacrifices or miss some opportunities to keep him.

Holy shit Chinook, the Spurs aren't going to dish out MLE money or anything close to that for a 3rd string center. He's useless in every imaginable way except for eating up minutes in garbage time.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

So more 2 man ISO ball?

Unless you're trading LMA or Kawhi you'll get more 2 man ISO ball regardless of any other realistic signings.

[Hoops Czar]

To me, it's evidence of Timmay not coming back. PATFO likely have a feeling for where Timmay is headed and have told Boban, we're bringing you back.

I really can't imagine Timmay wanting to come back after the latter part of the season and postseason he had. Pop didn't even use him that much, at crunch time. So either he had some mysterious injury and wasn't at full strength despite all the rest he had, or he knew it also and told Pop he wasn't the best option. Or he did2 tell Pop that and still got benched, which is probably worse. And if it is an injury, do you really want to spend an offseason rehabbing to come back for your 20th year?

You think the Spurs would seriously consider replacing TD with a slow AF 7' 3" center who can't rebound or protect the rim to save his life? Is this forum getting dumber by the second because it sure feels that way.

[Mikeanaro]

He's not worth it. After it was all said and done, Boban gave good spot minutes but he's soft, can't rebound, lacks mobility and sucks on defense. He's worth no more than 2 mill per season - if that.
Agreed, less mobility than other 7´3¨ guys like Mozgov or Porzingis also he is turnover prone.

[wildbill2u]

If TD decides to retire, the Spurs are left with West, Diaw, and Boban as the centers since LMA dosn't want to play there. Best to keep someone with size, even if used as a backup when we try to find and sign a future HOF in the draft, as a FA or via trade. [sacrcasm /].

We've had a lot of players over the years collecting 1.5 million for riding the pine with even less bb skills or upside. I might rather have Ndoye if he does well in SL.

[Kawhitstorm]

Sure sounds this way. If we get another season of Tim and Manu I'd be fine with it. Would like them to put the ball in Kawhi's hands more and let him run PnR and create.

Seems like 2010 offseason redux when the biggest move was giving Dick Jefferson a 40 mill extension after the Spurs got swept by the Suns.:lol (Maybe Kawhi will get to run the offense instead of Porker ala 2010-11 Manu)

[cjw]

Nope. They don't have his Bird rights. They right of first refusal, but they'll need to use either an exception or cap space to match the offer unless it's for less than the QO. Honestly, his cap hold is completely pointless to consider. He's a regular free agent for cap purposes. There's no "dealing with him after".

Right, no Bird rights. I guess what I was saying was they can use his QO to go try to make a big splash, and if they strike out can use cap space to resign him. Similar to CoJo last year, except they did have his Bird rights but instead of moving Mills they renounced him.

[Chinook]

Right, no Bird rights. I guess what I was saying was they can use his QO to go try to make a big splash, and if they strike out can use cap space to resign him. Similar to CoJo last year, except they did have his Bird rights but instead of moving Mills they renounced him.

Actually, the cap is on both teams' ledgers. The Spurs would have to account for the team as soon as he signs a QO.

[TheGreatYacht]

Hope the Spurs and Boban come to an agreement and wait, just like they did with Kawhi and Green. Spurs need a lot of new pieces... If they stand pat, expect another second round exit.

The summer after 6 happened, Spurs had quite a bit of cap and they wasted it on Splitter and Manu extensions.

[r0drig0lac]

Is too much to ask for some players who have some athleticism and "nasty" in them ? Guys who can get out and run the court too?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Boban is going to cost a great deal of flexibility. It's going to get a lot harder to dramatically change the team is he gets anything other than a small offer.

His cap hold is not significant because of his previous wage and he is capped at signing for the MLE because of the Arenas rule. You like being wrong every offseason; why make this one any different?

[AFMadison]

Unless you're trading LMA or Kawhi you'll get more 2 man ISO ball regardless of any other realistic signings.
Not true

[Keepin' it real]

Does significant playing time for Boban mean :lobt2:?

[coachmac87]

Hope the Spurs and Boban come to an agreement and wait, just like they did with Kawhi and Green. Spurs need a lot of new pieces... If they stand pat, expect another second round exit.

The summer after 6 happened, Spurs had quite a bit of cap and they wasted it on Splitter and Manu extensions.



Seemed to work out just fine tbh lol

[TheGreatYacht]

Seemed to work out just fine tbh lol
Yes it did. It was also a team that was seconds away from winning a title.

This team has 2 mummies in Manu and Timmy, a declining PG, and a terrible bench. Same team that got outed in the second round tbh. Changes must be made

[coachmac87]

Yes it did. It was also a team that was seconds away from winning a title.

This team has 2 mummies in Manu and Timmy, a declining PG, and a terrible bench. Same team that got outed in the second round tbh. Changes must be made



Team won 67 games with a HUGE new piece trying to find his place. Took a "great" team in OKC to 6 games and arguably could've won the series if officials did their job in two games. We don't know how this team would've done to GSW.

Of course we need changes..but it's not like they need to blow it up like some on this forum think

[Sean Cagney]

He's not worth it. After it was all said and done, Boban gave good spot minutes but he's soft, can't rebound, lacks mobility and sucks on defense. He's worth no more than 2 mill per season - if that.

True.

[MaNu4Tres]

Of course we need changes..but it's not like they need to blow it up like some on this forum think

Exactly, Spurs can be right there again if they inject quality athleticism and youth around Kawhi, Aldridge, Green nucleus. I really hope West, Diaw, Mills are gone. They need upgrades at those spots. And whatever Tim and Manu want to do -- I'm all for it, but I'd like to see at-least West, Diaw and Mills replaced in the rotation. Same goes for Bonner, Martin, Miller.

[024]

No bench big can guard Boban. He and Simmons can potentially be a good scoring combo off the bench.

Spurs never had much flexibility to make big moves. All the good FA's are restricted anyways and the Spurs never go for restricted FA's.

I expect it'll be a pretty boring offseason. Re-sign Boban, sign Bertans, sign a budget wing and big, and cut/retain Diaw depending on if they need the cap space. If Duncan and Ginobili retire, the Spurs might make some more "exciting" signings like Gasol.

[coachmac87]

Exactly, Spurs can be right there again if they inject quality athleticism and youth around Kawhi, Aldridge, Green nucleus. I really hope West, Diaw, Mills are gone. They need upgrades at those spots. And whatever Tim and Manu want to do -- I'm all for it, but I'd like to see at-least West, Diaw and Mills replaced in the rotation. Same goes for Bonner, Martin, Miller.



West will hopefully be gone unless he just opts in..I mean $$ doesn't matter to him lol. I think Diaw stays unless they hit big on a MAX guy. Hopefully he gets in shape and comes back determined.. Mills at 3.3M is just too good of value to just get rid of him..

[MaNu4Tres]

West will hopefully be gone unless he just opts in..I mean $$ doesn't matter to him lol. I think Diaw stays unless they hit big on a MAX guy. Hopefully he gets in shape and comes back determined.. Mills at 3.3M is just too good of value to just get rid of him..

You sound like those people who said George Hill at 1.3 mil in his last year was too good of value to trade. Truth is, if Spurs don't see themselves re-signing Mills after next year (which is the reality tbh..) , its better to trade him now and get value back than just let him go for nothing next summer.

It was like the situation with Hill before he got traded. Spurs had invested in Parker and it made no sense to allocate another 8 million at the back up PG spot -- so they shopped Hill during the draft the summer before he became a free agent.

They need to do the same with Mills or at-least try and I'm sure they are trying because Spurs aren't happy with his development. Spurs need a play-maker off the bench with Manu retiring or regressing more -- Mills isn't that guy and there's hardly any SG playmakers in the NBA, much less within Spurs' budget on the FA market.

[coachmac87]

You sound like those people who said George Hill at 1.3 mil in his last year was too good of value to trade. Truth is, if Spurs don't see themselves re-signing Mills after next year (which is the reality tbh..) , its better to trade him now and get value back than just let him go for nothing next summer.

It was like the situation with Hill before he got traded. Spurs had invested in Parker and it made no sense to allocate another 8 million at the back up PG spot -- so they shopped Hill during the draft the summer before he became a free agent.

They need to do the same with Mills or at-least try and I'm sure they are trying because Spurs aren't happy with his development. Spurs need a play-maker off the bench with Manu retiring or regressing more -- Mills isn't that guy and there's hardly any SG playmakers in the NBA, much less within Spurs' budget on the FA market.



But again it all determines what you're replacing him with player and at what price? Just saying Mills is a bargain at 3.3M and I'm sure he can be moved in a trade.

[SAGirl]

The issue with moving Mills is for who? Last season was the perfect time to move a PG bc we had 3, and 2 of them very young and Cojo still had upside at just 23 last season, yet they didn't bc they liked Joseph enough to want to keep him apparently if their big FA signing didn't come through. That's my reasoning.

Then Diaw. came out stating they want to keep him. Boban wants to stay.

It will be interesting which way it goes bc I think it will depend on Timmy and Manu how drastic or conservative they go, in large part bc of the cap, but also bc the roster spots available and needs.

I used to think they were ready to be more drastic in remaking the roster but now I see them just retooling and adding moderate role players plus some younger prospects they had their eye on anyways.

[spurtech09]

All the spurs need is another PG...doesn't have to be top notch but decent pg that can move the ball.....+ another shooter...again not top notch but can get the job done...Spurs will be fine.....

[cutewizard]

i wonder if Boban can approach Yao Ming?

[SpursforSix]

i wonder if Boban can approach Yao Ming?

Probably.

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You think the Spurs would seriously consider replacing TD with a slow AF 7' 3" center who can't rebound or protect the rim to save his life? Is this forum getting dumber by the second because it sure feels that way.

Did you see me say replace? I said Tim is probably planning on retiring so they might have more space to keep Boban. I'm well aware of Bobans shortcomings.

The problem with the board is there are a bunch of dolts that can't read context into someone's posts.

[Hoops Czar]

Did you see me say replace? I said Tim is probably planning on retiring so they might have more space to keep Boban. I'm well aware of Bobans shortcomings.

The problem with the board is there are a bunch of dolts that can't read context into someone's posts.

Boban is insignificant in every way imaginable and he'll cost next to nothing to retain. What does that have to do with TD?

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Boban is insignificant in every way imaginable and he'll cost next to nothing to retain. What does that have to do with TD?

He's an adequate back-up that's certain to cost more than he cost last year. He'll get offers for more. Question was, is he worth more to PATFO? Under the space they have with Timmy on the payroll, the answer is no. If, however, Timmy retires, then perhaps Boban is worth a bit more.

[Hoops Czar]

He's an adequate back-up that's certain to cost more than he cost last year. He'll get offers for more. Question was, is he worth more to PATFO? Under the space they have with Timmy on the payroll, the answer is no. If, however, Timmy retires, then perhaps Boban is worth a bit more.

An adequate back up for who? A rookie (by NBA standards) Center who can't rebound or rim protect equal a less experienced David West. He's basically a 3rd string C who can play spot minutes during the regular season but won't sniff a postseason rotation. If Duncan retires and the Spurs use that money to re-sign Boban, the PATFO will need a new nickname.

[NameLess Scrub]

Not excited about Boban.. his biggest impact was to dominate 3rd string centers to pad the team's stats in garbage time.

Diaw might be useful if he goes to fat camp in the summer.

Tony will never, ever get traded.

I hope West stays and does whatever he can that doesn't make him look done. I hope he wins a ring in SA.

Overall, not really excited about next season though.. looks like a 1st / 2nd round exit right now.

[TheGreatYacht]

People underrating Boban, lmao. It's almost like they didn't watch the games.

[Fireball]

looking forward having Boban on the team and getting 2nd year treatment from Pop

[Chinook]

As I said in the Boban main thread, I hope it's a deal similar to Beli's where the Spurs could fit it into either the room exception or the MLE. That way, they could go into the summer without having to worry about where Boban's contract fit into the cap. If that happens, there aren't many better ways to use the room exception, and if it's the MLE, the Spurs would still have plenty of money to bring in Bertans on a multi-year deal. For Boban, it would give him a decent contract that would set him up to get paid more in 2017 while also allowing him to have a short free agency so he could get over the SNT for the tournament.

[MVPCues]

IMO, the jury is still out on how effective Boban will be. He didn't see much time against quality opponents. Glimpses here and there. Most of his proud moments were against 2nd or 3rd stringers, as already stated. What might be promising is that he looked physically better later in the season than the beginning. He ran and stood less hunched over. If his conditioning and overall health can be improved, it might increase his mobility. If so, and coupled with more skill development, he would be a solid backup C and starter against some teams.

I say he gets around a 2 year for 6 million type of deal.

[turb0time]

People underrating Boban, lmao. It's almost like they didn't watch the games.

[Ron Swanson]

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[poeticism707]

Holy shit Chinook, the Spurs aren't going to dish out MLE money or anything close to that for a 3rd string center. He's useless in every imaginable way except for eating up minutes in garbage time.

This.

Boban is only worth the min now.

But do hope resigns for that-

no more than 2 mil a season.

[DPG21920]

There will be plenty of teams, that likely view Boban as a clear rotation player, that will offer him MLE type money (at least). It only takes one and there will be a market for him.

[look_at_g_shred]

There will be plenty of teams, that likely view Boban as a clear rotation player, that will offer him MLE type money (at least). It only takes one and there will be a market for him.
Yup agree completely.

[K...]

The spurs could have a wink wink promise to pay XXX once Duncan retires.....he might like the city/staff. lebron firing blatt really helps the spurs as the most foreign friendly team in the league.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

There will be plenty of teams, that likely view Boban as a clear rotation player, that will offer him MLE type money (at least). It only takes one and there will be a market for him.

He's capped at the MLE due to the Arenas rule.

[DPG21920]

He's capped at the MLE due to the Arenas rule.

Not exactly. I think how the GA rule works is the first year salary is capped at MLE level so teams over the cap can match year one. However in subsequent years the contract can be back loaded. So you see the contracts like: 5M, 5.5M, 10M etc...

The total amount of the deal can still be quite large was the point.

[Hoops Czar]

There will be plenty of teams, that likely view Boban as a clear rotation player, that will offer him MLE type money (at least). It only takes one and there will be a market for him.

Yes, DPG, they're called lottery teams. And if that happens, see ya!

[Obi Juan Kenobi]

More Nissan commercials!

THIS SOUNDSYSTEM IS AWESOME!!!

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[gambit1990]

i like boban.

if i had to choose between him and thomas robinson though... i'm choosing the latter.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJnnp92BRA8

[DPG21920]

Boban is clearly better than Robinson.

[Chinook]

http://thumb.usatodaysportsimages.com/image/thumb/650-510nw/9052406.jpg

[baseline bum]

Hope the Spurs and Boban come to an agreement and wait, just like they did with Kawhi and Green. Spurs need a lot of new pieces... If they stand pat, expect another second round exit.

The summer after 6 happened, Spurs had quite a bit of cap and they wasted it on Splitter and Manu extensions.

Pretty hard to call it a waste when they rang.

[AFMadison]

i like boban.

if i had to choose between him and thomas robinson though... i'm choosing the latter.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJnnp92BRA8
:lmao
You're a funny guy