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DarrinS
06-10-2016, 06:51 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFxFRqNmXKg

Ball Buster
06-10-2016, 07:37 AM
I'm manipulating my nutsack

Reck
06-10-2016, 08:23 AM
People give way too much credit to Hillary. You would think she's one of the illuminati with all these crazy conspiracy.

I would like to have the clout the Clintons have.

Spurminator
06-10-2016, 08:24 AM
Cute sleuthing, but this guy doesn't know how Google works and basically gives that away in the first minute. Google has never claimed that their algorithm always shows or suggests the most popular searches first. If they did, pornography would come up at the top every time.

Because Google results skew in favor of sites seen as more credible, it's going to serve up suggestions that reflect relevant topics related to those searches from the sites it deems most credible. First and foremost, those are typically sites about what is being searched for. A search for "Pizza Hut" is going to give you results from Pizza Hut's site before it gives you results from a blog post about somebody getting food poisoning from Pizza Hut. Clinton has loads of criminal reform content on her website, so this scores high in Google results. Her web team probably had some of this in mind when creating the content.

Furthermore, Google favors news over opinion. "Hillary Clinton is a criminal" isn't something you'll typically find in a straight news piece, at east not on a credible site. Now, articles about the email scandal? Sure.

http://i.imgur.com/zNqjOC1.png

You see stuff like "Hillary Clinton is a criminal" more on opinion pieces and message boards, where it's also more common to see people call Clinton by just her first name, which is why you get these results on a search using just her first name:


http://i.imgur.com/AbdLRnT.png


So, no, this doesn't prove Google is in cahoots with Clinton. At worst, it means Clinton has a savvy SEO team.

Spurminator
06-10-2016, 08:33 AM
Oh and by the way, the top Google search result right now for "Hillary Clinton Crime Reform" is a Washington Times article about Google being accused of burying negative Clinton stories.

DarrinS
06-10-2016, 10:50 AM
Oh and by the way, the top Google search result right now for "Hillary Clinton Crime Reform" is a Washington Times article about Google being accused of burying negative Clinton stories.

Autocomplete and search are two different things

https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/106230?hl=en

DarrinS
06-10-2016, 10:50 AM
So, perhaps a poorly titled video

Spurminator
06-10-2016, 12:10 PM
Autocomplete and search are two different things

https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/106230?hl=en

My point with the comment about the WT article was that Google must not be doing a very good job of burying negative stories if that's the top story on that search.

Autocomplete results are not solely linked to frequency of searches.

TheSanityAnnex
06-10-2016, 05:18 PM
WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange claims Google involved in Hillary Clinton campaign

WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange claims that Google has been working closely with US presidential hopeful Hilary Clinton's campaign in efforts to promote the candidate in the race to the White House. Speaking from the Ecuadorean embassy in London, via video conference as part of a two-day media event named "New Era of Journalism: Farewell to Mainstream", he said: "Google is directly engaged with Hillary Clinton's campaign," the Sputnik reported.
Pointing out that Google's former CEO Eric Schmidt is now heading the Pentagon's innovation branch, Assange said: "Google is heavily integrated with Washington power, at personal level and at business level... Google which has increasing control over the distribution channels... is intensely allying itself with the US exceptionalism."


Commenting on Clinton's nomination prospects (http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/us-election-hillary-clinton-launches-withering-attack-fraud-donald-trump-1563248), Assange said: "What we have with Clinton is someone who is a hawk but who has the tools of legal interventionism, a rhetorical cover to start the wars, and someone who seemingly wants to start them... From WikiLeaks' perspective Hillary Clinton is a problem in terms of war and peace."
According to a report by RT (https://www.rt.com/usa/345749-assange-us-google-clinton/), Assange is not the only one to have identified a connection between Clinton's campaign and Google. Behavioural psychologist Dr Robert Epstein said in an interview that Schmidt has set up a little-heard-of start-up called Groundword, the sole purpose of which is "to put Clinton in office".


"It's a very secretive organisation, super high-tech stuff, and [it's] very likely they're using these techniques that we've been studying in our research to make sure that votes are shifted to Clinton in November," he added.
"There is a merger between the corporate organisations and state... 80% of the National Security Agency budget is privatised. The NSA is the core of the US deep state... There has been a smoothing out between the government and the corporations," said Assange, indicating that there may be quid pro quo deals between the US government and private tech giants like Google.
"[Google] shows the will to use that at different levels. It will inevitably influence its audience," Assange added.


Assange has been staying in the Ecuadorean embassy in London since 2012 in efforts to avoid extradition to Sweden, where he is wanted for questioning on sexual assault allegations, which Assange has denied. The whistleblower fears that if extradited to Sweden, he could then be extradited to the US where he is wanted for charges relating to espionage, conspiracy, theft of government property and computer fraud for his involvement in the WikiLeaks revelations.
The UN Working Group on Arbitrary Detention in February declared that Assange was being unlawfully detained (http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/julian-assange-un-human-rights-expert-calls-uk-sweden-free-wikileaks-founder-1544160) and that the British and Swedish authorities should end his detention and grant him freedom. However, British authorities have maintained that Assange faces arrest and possible extradition if he chooses to step out of the confines of the Ecuadorian embassy.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/wikileaks-f...ews&yptr=yahoo (http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/wikileaks-founder-julian-assange-claims-google-involved-hilary-clinton-campaign-1564220?utm_source=yahoo&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=rss&utm_content=/rss/yahoous/news&yptr=yahoo)

DarrinS
06-10-2016, 06:28 PM
I did notice that if you just use Hillary, e.g. "hillary ind", it will autocomplete to find indictment.

Winehole23
06-11-2016, 05:26 PM
self-dealing: http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=245613

close partnership with Obama: http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=259811

Winehole23
06-11-2016, 05:27 PM
could Google steal the Presidency?

http://www.wired.com/2015/08/googles-search-algorithm-steal-presidency/

Winehole23
06-11-2016, 05:28 PM
(H/T, Google for the last link)

Reck
06-11-2016, 05:37 PM
I did notice that if you just use Hillary, e.g. "hillary ind", it will autocomplete to find indictment.

Hell all I wrote was "Hillary in" and it autocompleted to indictment and indectment odds. :lol

rmt
06-11-2016, 10:04 PM
Hell all I wrote was "Hillary in" and it autocompleted to indictment and indectment odds. :lol

Dd (who is not so overwhelmed after her first week of orientation) says this topic was brought up at Google's last TGIF [which is now held on Thursdays]. The legal team could never do anything else if they had to deal with every accusation of search bias. Also searches are personalized and different for each person.

spankadelphia
06-12-2016, 02:10 AM
:lolLiberals
:lolProgressives
:lol"People of Color"
:lolThinking corporations and big businesses are against mass immigration
:lolThinking you're speaking truth to power
:lolYou are the power
:lolVoting for your own economic enslavement
:lol"Useful idiots"

The lack of self awareness on the left is mindblowing to me.

Winehole23
06-12-2016, 09:27 AM
if you think one side of the political spectrum has a monopoly on obliviousness or insight, your slip is showing too.