NBA: Why Kevin Durant won't sign with OKC [Archive]

coachmac87

06-10-2016, 03:49 PM

1) KD has literally said that $ is not everything. He praised West for such a sacrifice to chase a title.

2) He wants to look around. He's states he needs to be selfish and look at the best fit for him. He's eliminated the Rockets as a possible destination which means he's literally looking and considering other teams.

3) He's also stated he doesn't want to go through this again..as in being a FA. Everybody expects him to sign+1 due to $. But it'd be pointless to sign that deal without the ABSOLUTE intention to sign a 5yr Max the following year.

4) OKC does not want Durant to sign a +1. and they literally can't plan for the future if he doesn't sign 5yr deal. Westbrook, Ibaka, Adams all will be free agents next year. OKC would like Durant to sign long term now to help sell Westbrook on staying AND help the franchise in long run.

5) Other teams in league can sell NOW and FUTURE

Killakobe81

06-10-2016, 03:51 PM

Huh?
Lot's of conjecture ...
But tell us friend, WHERE WILL he sign?!

Hmmm?
Spurs, perhaps?

coachmac87

06-10-2016, 04:02 PM

Killakobe81

06-10-2016, 04:07 PM

[QUOTE=Killakobe81;8619286]Huh?
Lot's of conjecture ...
But tell us friend, WHERE WILL he sign?!

Hmmm?
Spurs, perhaps?[/QUOTE

Sell me on why he should sign with OKC...

Its easy for everybody to assume $.. But what's OKC long term sell or plan? It's literally non existent..

OKC can ONLY sell on1 year.. And an injury can easily derail that

1. It's not just money outside of Cleveland, no one else besides his own team has pushed the Dubs the way OKC
has.
2. Even if durant breaks his foot next year he will still be signed to a max deal by the shitty teams like the Lakers or Knicks. Heck, there are teams that still wanted to sign Greg Oden recently.
3. Pretty sure OKC's long-term plan is to build around: Durant, Russ, Adams, Kanter ...

K...

06-10-2016, 04:08 PM

Chris

06-10-2016, 04:08 PM

The butthurt would be almost unfathomable if he signed in San Antonio. :lol

coachmac87

06-10-2016, 04:16 PM

[QUOTE=coachmac87;8619297]

1. It's not just money outside of Cleveland, no one else besides his own team has pushed the Dubs the way OKC
has.
2. Even if durant breaks his foot next year he will still be signed to a max deal by the shitty teams like the Lakers or Knicks. Heck, there are teams that still wanted to sign Greg Oden recently.
3. Pretty sure OKC's long-term plan is to build around: Durant, Russ, Adams, Kanter ...

It's not about Durant getting hurt..Adams can get hurt or Westbrook to derail their chances of winning a title. A lot of things have to go your way to win.

But you're going to have to approach that long term plan again NEXT YEAR..Adams and Westbrook aren't promised to stay..especially when you can't project the possible other teams and the cap going up again. You can't sell him that now cause it's not set in stone..

Where you have teams like the Spurs and Warriors able to add Durant with their cores ALREADY set in stone with 3-4yr contracts.

If it's s given and such and obvious choice for him to resign
..why even entertain the idea? Why not shoot all the speculation down?

Killakobe81

06-10-2016, 04:20 PM

[QUOTE=Killakobe81;8619303]

It's not about Durant getting hurt..Adams can get hurt or Westbrook to derail their chances of winning a title. A lot of things have to go your way to win.

But you're going to have to approach that long term plan again NEXT YEAR..Adams and Westbrook aren't promised to stay..especially when you can't project the possible other teams and the cap going up again. You can't sell him that now cause it's not set in stone..

Where you have teams like the Spurs and Warriors able to add Durant with their cores ALREADY set in stone with 3-4yr contracts.

If it's s given and such and obvious choice for him to resign
..why even entertain the idea? Why not shoot all the speculation down?

I agree if he was 100% sure he wouldnt go on a wine & dine tour.
But plenty of players have done so and still ended up where they started. I say the odds he stays is higher than 90 but less than a hundred.

Duncan went much further with flirting with Orlando and yet he stayed in SA ...

LOL some spur fans are living in Believeland like Cavs fan ...
He wont go to SA ...but if he does it would be cool to see he and Pop together.

coachmac87

06-10-2016, 04:27 PM

[QUOTE=coachmac87;8619310]

I agree if he was 100% sure he wouldnt go on a wine & dine tour.
But plenty of players have done so and still ended up where they started. I say the odds he stays is higher than 90 but less than a hundred.

Duncan went much further with flirting with Orlando and yet he stayed in SA ...

LOL some spur fans are living in Believeland like Cavs fan ...
He wont go to SA ...but if he does it would be cool to see he and Pop together.

You can't compare Duncan...He already won a title and he didn't want to play in the Alamodome..and it was his first time his contract expired.

And typically the players that look around are looking for a better chance to win but always fall back to the more $. I honestly don't believe $ is a priority..

I'm not saying he's coming to SA. But the more I think about it unless he signs a 5yr deal with OKC and commits...there's just too much risk involved.

I think Durant wants to look around for a long term plan..because as I said OKC can't do it right now. If a team can truly sell a long term plan..he's gone

coachmac87

06-10-2016, 05:30 PM

One thing I haven't heard. If Durant signs five year max with okc, and Westbrook walks, won't okc be able to attract a win now free agent to help him?

Or is Oklahoma too much of an irritant? Seems pretty low risk of Durant to resign, try again, if not trade westy

That's the thing...OKC isn't going to propose the +1 IMO. That's too much pressure and risk the following offseason..they gotta sell Durant on long term..I just think it's an impossible pitch.

whitemamba

06-10-2016, 05:41 PM

People really think hes going to turn down 200 million?

K...

06-10-2016, 06:13 PM

People really think hes going to turn down 200 million?

oklahoma

whitemamba

06-10-2016, 06:16 PM

oklahoma

:lol stfu you wouldnt turn down 20$. Oklahoma or not, 200 million is wacky money.

K...

06-10-2016, 06:21 PM

:lol stfu you wouldnt turn down 20$. Oklahoma or not, 200 million is wacky money.

if i already had $$$$ i could be picky. I'm not really arguing, i would totally be kevin love if could be. But these players have agendas that may not mean max $$$

coachmac87

06-10-2016, 06:23 PM

People really think hes going to turn down 200 million?

Then why consider other options?

DMC

06-10-2016, 06:24 PM

Huh?
Lot's of conjecture ...
But tell us friend, WHERE WILL he sign?!

Hmmm?
Spurs, perhaps?

Sell me on why he should sign with OKC...

Its easy for everybody to assume $.. But what's OKC long term sell or plan? It's literally non existent..

OKC can ONLY sell on1 year.. And an injury can easily derail that

Pressure. KD is under no real pressure to deliver a ring to OKC because Westbrook has been the first mouse to the cheese every year save one, and Durant got a free pass and an MVP that year. It just so happens the cheese was on a mouse trap. KD has walked away unscathed and can sign a one year deal with OKC and then test the waters next season when money is fatter.

coachmac87

06-10-2016, 06:30 PM

Pressure. KD is under no real pressure to deliver a ring to OKC because Westbrook has been the first mouse to the cheese every year save one, and Durant got a free pass and an MVP that year. It just so happens the cheese was on a mouse trap. KD has walked away unscathed and can sign a one year deal with OKC and then test the waters next season when money is fatter.

Pressure? You really think that's KD actual thinking? No. That's your thinking..

Yes he can sign the +1 and do it again and get more $.. But as I said in my OP Durant literally said $ isn't everything and doesn't want to go through the FA process again..

So even if he signs +1 it wouldn't be ideal to walk the following year..again what's OKC pitch of the future to KD? And you really think OKC wants him to sign +1 and possibly lose everything next year? No.

Which is why I think if another team can sell a legit long term plan..he's gone

coachmac87

06-10-2016, 06:34 PM

Again I'm only stating things that are coming out of KD mouth and actuall facts of contracts being expired for OKC the following year...

whitemamba

06-10-2016, 06:38 PM

if i already had $$$$ i could be picky. I'm not really arguing, i would totally be kevin love if could be. But these players have agendas that may not mean max $$$

The only agendas these niggas have is getting paid. I read somewhere i cant remember honestly but it was recent that NBA players spend on average 60 thousand dollars a month during the season.

Then why consider other options?

Why not, having the entire NBA blowing you, giving you all these options. Its like bitches, its fun to flirt with all of them but at the end of the day you wanna bang the 10, the 10 meaning the big contract.

coachmac87

06-10-2016, 06:45 PM

The only agendas these niggas have is getting paid. I read somewhere i cant remember honestly but it was recent that NBA players spend on average 60 thousand dollars a month during the season.

Why not, having the entire NBA blowing you, giving you all these options. Its like bitches, its fun to flirt with all of them but at the end of the day you wanna bang the 10, the 10 meaning the big contract.

But he's even stated he doesn't want to be wined and dined by EVERYBODY. Your argument is solely based on $$..which in KDs words aren't a factor. If he already won championships maybe it'd be different..

coachmac87

06-10-2016, 06:48 PM

The nigga is already paid..300M from Nike..

Have you read the Bill Simmons article regarding Nike/KD and how it could actually benefit him financially off the court if he left?

whitemamba

06-10-2016, 06:50 PM

But he's even stated he doesn't want to be wined and dined by EVERYBODY. Your argument is solely based on $$..which in KDs words aren't a factor. If he already won championships maybe it'd be different..

its a theory kid, relax.

coachmac87

06-10-2016, 06:55 PM

its a theory kid, relax.

Well your theory is weak AF

whitemamba

06-10-2016, 06:56 PM

Well your theory is weak AF

peoplen thought the earth being round was crazy. So don't be an idiot.

coachmac87

06-10-2016, 07:03 PM

peoplen thought the earth being round was crazy. So don't be an idiot.

Relax..

Just get back to the drawing board and come back with better theories

spurtech09

06-10-2016, 08:19 PM

Well Ibaka said Durant is staying in OKC.....So I assume he is going to resign with OKC?

baseline bum

06-10-2016, 08:22 PM

I read somewhere i cant remember honestly but it was recent that NBA players spend on average 60 thousand dollars a month during the season.

Holy fuck

UNT Eagles 2016

06-10-2016, 08:40 PM

People really think hes going to turn down 200 million?
Average supermodel in OKC is a 3/10

Average chick in LA is a 7/10

whitemamba

06-10-2016, 08:54 PM

Holy fuck
Fuckin bananas right ? Imagine the offseason with all the vacations , partying, shopping , strip clubs etc..

Average supermodel in OKC is a 3/10

Average chick in LA is a 7/10

That's a moot point honestly , hos will live in ISIS captivity if you pay them enough.

UNT Eagles 2016

06-10-2016, 08:56 PM

hos will live in ISIS captivity if you pay them enough.

That money will go to their men though, probably to build a mosque or tank or another beheading video or something.

cutewizard

06-10-2016, 11:27 PM

Durant to the Spurs, book it

DMC

06-10-2016, 11:49 PM

Pressure? You really think that's KD actual thinking? No. That's your thinking..

And that's yours. You don't know shit about KD. He might sit around smoking pot all day. You have no idea what motivates him. If you think KD isn't hiding from the limelight in OKC you're foolish. He could be the alpha on almost any team in the league, yet he's subservient to his point guard. It's shameful, and indicative of someone who prefers to be part of the pack.

Yes he can sign the +1 and do it again and get more $.. But as I said in my OP Durant literally said $ isn't everything and doesn't want to go through the FA process again..

Durant says a lot of shit.

So even if he signs +1 it wouldn't be ideal to walk the following year..again what's OKC pitch of the future to KD? And you really think OKC wants him to sign +1 and possibly lose everything next year? No.
He gets one more year with Donovan to see how things go. He could be in a worse position. There were 26 other teams that were sitting at home while he was still playing this year. Do you really think he wants to go to a struggling, rebuilding team, or to a team where his numbers suffer due to being a cog in the system? No. He'd be stupid to do that from a business perspective.

Fans give way too much weight to rings when they consider how professional players think. It's often the final bucket list item for them, but their earning years they want bank.

Which is why I think if another team can sell a legit long term plan..he's gone

i.e. "Spurs".

Lol no

KD has everything he wants:

Freedom to stat pad
No pressure to defend
No pressure to lead the team
No crunch time pressure
Big pay
Post season smoke and mirrors that attracts sponsors
New coach that has no power
Team that fears he will leave, has no future if he does
Fan base that thinks he's a god.

He'd be stupid to go anywhere else.

coachmac87

06-11-2016, 12:04 AM

And that's yours. You don't know shit about KD. He might sit around smoking pot all day. You have no idea what motivates him. If you think KD isn't hiding from the limelight in OKC you're foolish. He could be the alpha on almost any team in the league, yet he's subservient to his point guard. It's shameful, and indicative of someone who prefers to be part of the pack.

Durant says a lot of shit.
He gets one more year with Donovan to see how things go. He could be in a worse position. There were 26 other teams that were sitting at home while he was still playing this year. Do you really think he wants to go to a struggling, rebuilding team, or to a team where his numbers suffer due to being a cog in the system? No. He'd be stupid to do that from a business perspective.

Fans give way too much weight to rings when they consider how professional players think. It's often the final bucket list item for them, but their earning years they want bank.

i.e. "Spurs".

Lol no

KD has everything he wants:

Freedom to stat pad
No pressure to defend
No pressure to lead the team
No crunch time pressure
Big pay
Post season smoke and mirrors that attracts sponsors
New coach that has no power
Team that fears he will leave, has no future if he does
Fan base that thinks he's a god.

He'd be stupid to go anywhere else.

This is a bunch of crap. You're saying that KD admits to himself and the world that Westbrook is more important than him? So he can take a back seat? He's a 300m man an MVP and 4x scoring champion. Westbrook can't compete with that. I can argue Westbrook has held them back in years past. KD has been there almost a decade and almost all of it is with Russ..what they got to show for it? "We're so close but so far..we will get em next year"

You're the one who thinks you know KD not me. I've only stated what's he's said and factual circumstances regarding possibilities.

coachmac87

06-11-2016, 12:13 AM

Seriously how many active NBA players have $300M in endorsements? I'll wait

TDMVPDPOY

06-11-2016, 12:17 AM

This is a bunch of crap. You're saying that KD admits to himself and the world that Westbrook is more important than him? So he can take a back seat? He's a 300m man an MVP and 4x scoring champion. Westbrook can't compete with that. I can argue Westbrook has held them back in years past. KD has been there almost a decade and almost all of it is with Russ..what they got to show for it? "We're so close but so far..we will get em next year"

You're the one who thinks you know KD not me. I've only stated what's he's said and factual circumstances regarding possibilities.

lol you forgot another award he was celebrating like he won a championship, that wcf trophy...

DMC

06-12-2016, 12:39 AM

This is a bunch of crap. You're saying that KD admits to himself and the world that Westbrook is more important than him? So he can take a back seat? He's a 300m man an MVP and 4x scoring champion. Westbrook can't compete with that. I can argue Westbrook has held them back in years past. KD has been there almost a decade and almost all of it is with Russ..what they got to show for it? "We're so close but so far..we will get em next year"

You're the one who thinks you know KD not me. I've only stated what's he's said and factual circumstances regarding possibilities.

Better? No. More important to a win? Sure. KD has been deferring to Westbrook for years.

You judge a man by his actions, not his words. KD's actions tell me he's a settler. He whines about being 2nd best (not even that now) but he's not even man enough to run his own fucking team.

DMC

06-12-2016, 12:43 AM

Seriously how many active NBA players have $300M in endorsements? I'll wait
Yeah that's not a red herring :rolleyes

Chillen

06-12-2016, 06:13 AM

MultiTroll

06-12-2016, 07:11 AM

Durant says a lot of shit.
He gets one more year with Donovan to see how things go. He could be in a worse position. There were 26 other teams that were sitting at home while he was still playing this year. Do you really think he wants to go to a struggling, rebuilding team, or to a team where his numbers suffer due to being a cog in the system? No. He'd be stupid to do that from a business perspective.

Fans give way too much weight to rings when they consider how professional players think. It's often the final bucket list item for them, but their earning years they want bank.

i.e. "Spurs".

Lol no

KD has everything he wants:

Freedom to stat pad
No pressure to defend
No pressure to lead the team
No crunch time pressure
Big pay
Post season smoke and mirrors that attracts sponsors
New coach that has no power
Team that fears he will leave, has no future if he does
Fan base that thinks he's a god.
and they've got his mom in on the camera time and endorsement ass kissing.

Mnky

06-12-2016, 10:40 AM

:lol stfu you wouldnt turn down 20$. Oklahoma or not, 200 million is wacky money.

In the end he would be missing out on closer to 20 than 200. He's still getting paid. 20 still a lot to someone like me, but to a millionaire? Not sure. He has close to 300 million in endorsements.

Boston looks like a threat, they have a bright future, but don't think they'd be win now mode which is what he wants. He will be visiting the warriors. It makes sense, he wouldn't have to be the main ball carrier extended periods of time and would get ridiculous looks with those screens. Life would be easy on the way to a dynasty and still getting paid. San Antonio is an option, if they're willing to move dead weight. If they're not ready to make drastic moves though, I don't see it happening. They have to convince him they have a team for win now and the future. Holding onto overpaid players past their prime won't cut it.

coachmac87

06-12-2016, 11:30 AM

Better? No. More important to a win? Sure. KD has been deferring to Westbrook for years.

You judge a man by his actions, not his words. KD's actions tell me he's a settler. He whines about being 2nd best (not even that now) but he's not even man enough to run his own fucking team.

Run his team? Durant was and always has been the man in OKC..the only reason why Westbrook got more attention lately is because Durant was hurt was his foot..

Before that it was all about Durant and Weatbrook was the out of control point guard,

You don't even know what you're talking about tbh

DMC

06-12-2016, 11:30 AM

Take Durant off OKC, do they beat the Spurs in these playoffs, no. Spurs almost beat OKC without Durant. So basically I don't see any reason for Durant to not consider signing with the Spurs if he wants a change of scenery.

Change of scenery for a superstar isn't OKC to SA. It's OKC to LA or Miami. Boston has been a dead zone for superstars since Bird. Pierce had to recruit outside help who even then didn't stick around.

If Love departs, perhaps KD takes Cleveland for a year to see if he can get a ring with them, and how he and James play together. I think Irving would be the only deal breaker there, because KD would be going from one chucking PG to another.

coachmac87

06-12-2016, 11:32 AM

Yeah that's not a red herring :rolleyes

Answer the question

DMC

06-12-2016, 11:33 AM

Answer the question
Start another thread. It has nothing to do with this one. That's what "red herring" means.

TDMVPDPOY

06-12-2016, 11:38 AM

come here and watch porker hero mode chuck the team out of the playoffs?

coachmac87

06-12-2016, 11:40 AM

Start another thread. It has nothing to do with this one. That's what "red herring" means.

Durants Nike contract has a lot to do with this thread. You just won't answer it because you don't know what the hell youre talking about..

DMC

06-12-2016, 11:46 AM

Run his team? Durant was and always had been the man in OKC..the only reason why Westbrook got more attention lately is because Durant was hurt was his foot..

Before that it was all about Durant and Weatbrook was the out of control point guard,

You don't even know what you're talking about tbh
KD is a better player than Westbrook but Westbrook has the balls to win or lose and take the blame. KD defers. That means he does not run the team. When your best talent defers to the most emotional player, that's because your best talent is mentally weak thus not a leader.

DMC

06-12-2016, 11:48 AM

Durants Nike contract has a lot to do with this thread. You just won't answer it because you don't know what the hell youre talking about..

No it doesn't. Go do another shitty podcast that no one ever hears.

coachmac87

06-12-2016, 12:23 PM

KD is a better player than Westbrook but Westbrook has the balls to win or lose and take the blame. KD defers. That means he does not run the team. When your best talent defers to the most emotional player, that's because your best talent is mentally weak thus not a leader.

Explain how he defers?

coachmac87

06-12-2016, 12:23 PM

No it doesn't. Go do another shitty podcast that no one ever hears.

Explain? I can tell by your replies you've become frustrated.

It just shows you don't know what you're even talking about..you can't back it up with anything other than try to take jabs at me lol. If you think KD will resign that's ok..but it's not going to be because of what YOU said about him.

Joseph Kony

06-12-2016, 01:03 PM

People really think hes going to turn down 200 million?
I agree, but also has a 300 million dollar shoe deal and when you've already banked 100+ million, what's the big difference in 50 million if you're trying to cement your legacy?

coachmac87

06-12-2016, 01:43 PM

I agree, but also has a 300 million dollar shoe deal and when you've already banked 100+ million, what's the big difference in 50 million if you're trying to cement your legacy?

Why did David West do what he did? Cause he already made his $$$

Durant literally said it himself. "$ isn't everything"

DMC

06-12-2016, 04:24 PM

Explain how he defers?

By standing around scratching his nuts while Russ chucks the game away.

Just guessing.

DMC

06-12-2016, 04:24 PM

Explain? I can tell by your replies you've become frustrated.

It just shows you don't know what you're even talking about..you can't back it up with anything other than try to take jabs at me lol. If you think KD will resign that's ok..but it's not going to be because of what YOU said about him.

You are disconnected from reality. Get your ass back upstairs with the rest of the try hards.

coachmac87

06-12-2016, 05:24 PM

You are disconnected from reality. Get your ass back upstairs with the rest of the try hards.

Again you can't even respond with substance to back your stance..what a piece of shit :lmao

DMC

06-12-2016, 05:58 PM

Again you can't even respond with substance to back your stance..what a piece of shit :lmao

You have shitty takes. That's apparent. Everything you post is retarded.

coachmac87

06-12-2016, 07:23 PM

You have shitty takes. That's apparent. Everything you post is retarded.

Coming from a guy who says Durants main reason of staying in OKC is "pressure"...

GTFOH with that weak ass take. I ask for substance and all you can provide are insults..

You're a joke

MajorMike

06-12-2016, 07:39 PM

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06-12-2016, 07:51 PM

K...

06-12-2016, 08:36 PM

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/16149635/kevin-durant-offered-cabinet-position-oklahoma-gov-mary-fallin-stay-oklahoma-city-thunder?sf28523154=1

Kevin Durant gets political offer from Oklahoma governor

But if he'll stay, I'll make him a Cabinet person for health and fitness on my Cabinet," Fallin said, according to the Tulsa World.

I want to laugh at this but abbot, paxton, and Patrick are all capable of real embarrassment to texans.

Arcadian

06-12-2016, 08:56 PM

MajorMike

06-12-2016, 09:42 PM

Oh, no, you can laugh. Its a total embarrassment.

coachmac87

06-12-2016, 10:51 PM

It isn't Durant's fault that Westbrook is overly assertive (overly because he wants to be the #1 guy but isn't). Why the hell are people blaming Durant for Westbrook's chucking? There are only so many ways you can tell a guy, "Don't take bad shots." That's not on Durant. And it doesn't indicate mental weakness. He might have mental weaknesses (we all do), but "allowing" Westbrook to take too many shots isn't one of them.

I have no idea what he'll do. If I had to guess, I'd say he re-signs with OKC...but the OP does make some valid points.

I totally agree. But unfortunately some people on this forum think Durant mental weakness is an actual reason for him staying...which is total bullshit.

I'm honestly 50/50 on if Durant is staying or going but I decided to bring up the points on why he might leave. It's really interesting if you really look at it from the other perspective.

oh crap

06-13-2016, 02:25 AM

He's staying. though I don't blame him if he leaves. sure as fuck not pulling a lebron, i'll tell ya that.

DMC

06-13-2016, 05:01 AM

I totally agree. But unfortunately some people on this forum think Durant mental weakness is an actual reason for him staying...which is total bullshit.

I'm honestly 50/50 on if Durant is staying or going but I decided to bring up the points on why he might leave. It's really interesting if you really look at it from the other perspective.
And none of those points were about endorsements.

Killakobe81

06-13-2016, 08:24 AM

It isn't Durant's fault that Westbrook is overly assertive (overly because he wants to be the #1 guy but isn't). Why the hell are people blaming Durant for Westbrook's chucking? There are only so many ways you can tell a guy, "Don't take bad shots." That's not on Durant. And it doesn't indicate mental weakness. He might have mental weaknesses (we all do), but "allowing" Westbrook to take too many shots isn't one of them.

I have no idea what he'll do. If I had to guess, I'd say he re-signs with OKC...but the OP does make some valid points.

I dont disagree with your premise, but surely he could be more vocal about this. if you read his comments on Russ and his shot taking he almost always defends. Russ which may make him a great team-mate but not necessarily a good leader.

To me the wrong way to lead is the Shaq/Kobe/LeBron/MJ media manipulation. Where they take shots publicly via overtly (shaq/Kobe) or passive aggressive like LeBron/MJ. YOu also have the passive not naming names style like Pau did when kobe shot to much in key losses (also not good) or you could never say anything publicly and handle it in-house like Tim.

Whether Durant fans want to admit it or not he enables Russ.

coachmac87

06-13-2016, 08:35 AM

The nigga is already paid..300M from Nike..

Have you read the Bill Simmons article regarding Nike/KD and how it could actually benefit him financially off the court if he left?

You can't read good. So stfu.

coachmac87

06-13-2016, 08:36 AM

And none of those points were about endorsements.

You're a dumb fuck

coachmac87

06-13-2016, 08:40 AM

I dont disagree with your premise, but surely he could be more vocal about this. if you read his comments on Russ and his shot taking he almost always defends. Russ which may make him a great team-mate but not necessarily a good leader.

To me the wrong way to lead is the Shaq/Kobe/LeBron/MJ media manipulation. Where they take shots publicly via overtly (shaq/Kobe) or passive aggressive like LeBron/MJ. YOu also have the passive not naming names style like Pau did when kobe shot to much in key losses (also not good) or you could never say anything publicly and handle it in-house like Tim.

Whether Durant fans want to admit it or not he enables Russ.

Why is it wrong for him to stick up and defend Westbrook? And what exactly do you expect him to say? People say KD isn't vocal enough or isn't a leader. Wellll Westbrook isn't either..just because he acts like a fool on the court doesn't mean he's a leader.

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06-13-2016, 09:07 AM

You're a dumb fuck

lol. He is a maddening SOB.

Arcadian

06-13-2016, 01:58 PM

I dont disagree with your premise, but surely he could be more vocal about this. if you read his comments on Russ and his shot taking he almost always defends. Russ which may make him a great team-mate but not necessarily a good leader.

To me the wrong way to lead is the Shaq/Kobe/LeBron/MJ media manipulation. Where they take shots publicly via overtly (shaq/Kobe) or passive aggressive like LeBron/MJ. YOu also have the passive not naming names style like Pau did when kobe shot to much in key losses (also not good) or you could never say anything publicly and handle it in-house like Tim.

Whether Durant fans want to admit it or not he enables Russ.

Well, they're also really good friends. Durant isn't going to start a feud with his friend and teammate, and I respect that. Westbrook is a natural score-first point guard. He needs the ball in his hands to be effective. Durant recognizes that and tries to compliment it. He can't change Russ. He is who he is.

MajorMike

06-13-2016, 03:12 PM

coachmac87

06-13-2016, 05:23 PM

There is zero reason for him not to stay.

- He is royalty here
- Doesn't get heated up in media like WB does
- Were about 8 mins away from the Finals and a likely Title as is
- Can sign a 2 year PO to have at least 1 more with WB
- Can opt out if WB isn't coming back OR to sign much higher tender when cap skyrockets again
- Wants to do it 'on his own' and not go coat-tail with GB, Spurs, Cavs
- One of those teams is not going to have room for him unless they dump needed pieces

I honestly see zero chance he is not here next year - the money and suitable talent are both here.

After that... I can see him going.

Thank you for responding with substance and actual reasoning unlike some people.... Lol

I still think the main reason he's "looking around" is for a better long term plan. OKC is good for next year but literally NOTHING promised after that. Yeah he could leave after next year but even if he did he'd still lose out on $.

DMC

06-13-2016, 05:26 PM

You can't read good. So stfu.
talking to yourself now, but at least you have one good take now.

coachmac87

06-13-2016, 05:27 PM

talking to yourself now, but at least you have one good take now.

You were proven wrong...accept it and move on.

DMC

06-13-2016, 05:30 PM

Thank you for responding with substance and actual reasoning unlike some people.... Lol

I still think the main reason he's "looking around" is for a better long term plan. OKC is good for next year but literally NOTHING promised after that. Yeah he could leave after next year but even if he did he'd still lose out on $.

There is zero reason for him not to stay.

- He is royalty here
- Doesn't get heated up in media like WB does
- Were about 8 mins away from the Finals and a likely Title as is
- Can sign a 2 year PO to have at least 1 more with WB
- Can opt out if WB isn't coming back OR to sign much higher tender when cap skyrockets again
- Wants to do it 'on his own' and not go coat-tail with GB, Spurs, Cavs
- One of those teams is not going to have room for him unless they dump needed pieces

I honestly see zero chance he is not here next year - the money and suitable talent are both here.

After that... I can see him going.

And that's yours. You don't know shit about KD. He might sit around smoking pot all day. You have no idea what motivates him. If you think KD isn't hiding from the limelight in OKC you're foolish. He could be the alpha on almost any team in the league, yet he's subservient to his point guard. It's shameful, and indicative of someone who prefers to be part of the pack.

Durant says a lot of shit.
He gets one more year with Donovan to see how things go. He could be in a worse position. There were 26 other teams that were sitting at home while he was still playing this year. Do you really think he wants to go to a struggling, rebuilding team, or to a team where his numbers suffer due to being a cog in the system? No. He'd be stupid to do that from a business perspective.

Fans give way too much weight to rings when they consider how professional players think. It's often the final bucket list item for them, but their earning years they want bank.

i.e. "Spurs".

Lol no

KD has everything he wants:

Freedom to stat pad
No pressure to defend
No pressure to lead the team
No crunch time pressure
Big pay
Post season smoke and mirrors that attracts sponsors
New coach that has no power
Team that fears he will leave, has no future if he does
Fan base that thinks he's a god.

He'd be stupid to go anywhere else.
Yeah no one pointed any of that out to Coachfaggot87

DMC

06-13-2016, 05:34 PM

Average supermodel in OKC is a 3/10

Average chick in LA is a 7/10
Odds of you fucking either is about 1 in 100 million.

DMC

06-13-2016, 05:36 PM

And none of those points were about endorsements.

You can't read good. So stfu.

1) KD has literally said that $ is not everything. He praised West for such a sacrifice to chase a title.

2) He wants to look around. He's states he needs to be selfish and look at the best fit for him. He's eliminated the Rockets as a possible destination which means he's literally looking and considering other teams.

3) He's also stated he doesn't want to go through this again..as in being a FA. Everybody expects him to sign+1 due to $. But it'd be pointless to sign that deal without the ABSOLUTE intention to sign a 5yr Max the following year.

4) OKC does not want Durant to sign a +1. and they literally can't plan for the future if he doesn't sign 5yr deal. Westbrook, Ibaka, Adams all will be free agents next year. OKC would like Durant to sign long term now to help sell Westbrook on staying AND help the franchise in long run.

5) Other teams in league can sell NOW and FUTURE

Nothing in the OP about Simmons or endorsements.

/thread

coachmac87

06-13-2016, 06:02 PM

And none of those points were about endorsements.

Now you're just referring to my OP or nah? Or you just change your argument as you go? Quit already.

UNT Eagles 2016

06-13-2016, 06:08 PM

Odds of you fucking either is about 1 in 100 million.

Exactly, because I don't fuck. I make love.

coachmac87

06-13-2016, 06:10 PM

Exactly, because I don't fuck. I make love.

Gold. :lmao

DMC

06-14-2016, 08:54 PM

Now you're just referring to my OP or nah? Or you just change your argument as you go? Quit already.

The thread is about the OP. Throwing endorsements in is a red herring. You posted your reasons you thought he would not stay and when challenged you responded with the endorsement red herring.

Even more ironic is the fact you used the notion that KD doesn't care about money as a reason.

coachmac87

06-15-2016, 12:45 PM

The thread is about the OP. Throwing endorsements in is a red herring. You posted your reasons you thought he would not stay and when challenged you responded with the endorsement red herring.

Even more ironic is the fact you used the notion that KD doesn't care about money as a reason.

Wrong and wrong again....

Why is KD even looking around or considering meetings if he and his agent know damn well he'd lose out on $ if he signed elsewhere? And again I'm also going by what he literally said...

But nah I'm supposed to believe you're in his head and his reasoning of staying is because of "pressure".

You also said none of the points I made in this thread was about endorsements and it was clearly brought up.

And yes then Nike deal is the main reason why $$ may not be a factor on his next NBA contract...

It's common sense

poeticism707

06-15-2016, 03:25 PM

Why did David West do what he did? Cause he already made his $$$

Durant literally said it himself. "$ isn't everything"

This and this.

Durant is so rich 50 million is nothing compared to his doing what

he wants.

And he stated many times money isn't everything.

He values his basketball accomplemnts more than 50 mil.

KD is alot things, a basketball dummy ain't one of them.

If I had to pick, after all his vists,

here is the order:

1. Spurs
2.GSW
3.Miami
4.Boston
5.OKC