Obama: Trump’s ‘yapping’ about Islam helps ISIS

[RandomGuy]

By turns mocking, frustrated and angry, President Obama on Tuesday unleashed a blistering denunciation of Donald Trump, arguing that the presumptive Republican nominee’s rhetoric about Muslims betrays American values and risks helping al-Qaida and the so-called Islamic State.

Obama’s remarks came a day after Trump charged that the president’s refusal to blame attacks like the mass shooting in Orlando on “radical Islam” proved he placed political correctness above the need to keep Americans safe.

The president dismissed Trump’s argument as partisan “yapping,” “a political talking point” and “loose talk and sloppiness” that shows ignorance about how to fight the Islamic State, also known as ISIS or ISIL.

“There has not been a moment in my seven and a half years as president where we have not been able to pursue a strategy because we didn’t use the label ‘radical Islam.’ Not once has an adviser of mine said, ‘Man, if we use that phrase, we are going to turn this whole thing around.’ Not once,” Obama said. “Calling a threat by a different name does not make it go away. This is a political distraction.”

Obama, who emphasized that he has previously detailed how “extremist groups have perverted Islam to justify terrorism,” said language like Trump’s would reinforce the claim that terrorists speak for the world’s 1.7 billion Muslims.

“That’s their propaganda; that’s how they recruit. And if we fall into the trap of painting all Muslims with a broad brush, and imply that we are at war with an entire religion, then we are doing the terrorists’ work for them,” Obama scolded.

The president has faced criticism of his handling of the undeclared but escalating war against ISIS. Top Republicans have accused Obama of neglecting the threat as it flared up and responding too slowly and too meekly. And last weekend’s atrocity in Orlando, now the worst mass shooting in U.S. history, raises fresh questions about the government’s approach to defusing homegrown threats.

And a February 2016 poll by the nonpartisan Pew Research Center found that 65 percent of Republicans and independents who lean toward the GOP want the next president to “speak bluntly even if critical of Islam as a whole.” For Democrats and independents who lean left, it was just 22 percent.

The president highlighted Trump’s call for banning Muslim immigration to the United States and his suggestion that some Americans who follow Islam were complicit in the attacks in Orlando and in San Bernardino, Calif.

“Where does this stop?” Obama asked. “Are we going to start treating all Muslim Americans differently? Are we going to start subjecting them to special surveillance? Are we going to start discriminating against them because of their faith?”

The president went on: “That’s not the America we want. It doesn’t reflect our Democratic ideals. It won’t make us more safe, it will make us less safe, fueling ISIL’s notion that the West hates Muslims, making young Muslims in this country and around the world feel like, no matter what they do, they’re going to be under suspicion and under attack.”

“It betrays the very values America stands for,” Obama said. “Do Republican officials actually agree with this?”

Before Obama spoke, Republican House Speaker Paul D. Ryan explicitly rejected Trump’s Muslim immigration ban.

“I do not think a Muslim ban is in our country’s interest,” Ryan told reporters, repeating a point he’s made before. “I do not think it is reflective of our principles not just as a party, but as a country. And I think the smarter way to go in all respects is to have a security test and not a religious test.”

In his remarks on Monday, Trump renewed his call for a Muslim ban, which would include both immigrants and tourists, but he added another layer. Trump said he would “suspend immigration from areas of the world where there’s a proven history of terrorism against the United States, Europe or our allies.”

Obama said “religious tests” have no place in American policy as envisioned by the Constitution and would betray “the very things that make us exceptional.”

“And then the terrorists would have won, and we cannot let that happen,” he said. “I will not let that happen.”


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:lol


Dude is right on both points.

Trump's yapping is actually helping ISIS.

and... Trump yaps.

[whitemamba]

Hate him or love him, you will miss him because how shitty the candidates are this year.

[Fabbs]

Barry

[TheSanityAnnex]

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:lol


Dude is right on both points.

Trump's yapping is actually helping ISIS.

and... Trump yaps.

Yes Barry, I'm sure Trump calling them Radical Islamists fuels more hate than all the drone strikes you continue to have carried out.

[boutons_deux]

Repugs beloved GitMo is a huge terrorist recruiting tool, but they'd rather fuck the knitter than fight terrorism.

[RandomGuy]

Yes Barry, I'm sure Trump calling them Radical Islamists fuels more hate than all the drone strikes you continue to have carried out.

Who knows?

I can tell you that deliberately targeting women and children, like the child-man Trump says he wants... probably won't help much either will it?

Trump would carry out the same strikes, AND provide massive propaganda wins to these asshats.

[DarrinS]

If Muslims are so easily recruited by ISIS, what does that say about Islam?

[TheSanityAnnex]

Who knows?

I can tell you that deliberately targeting women and children, like the child-man Trump says he wants... probably won't help much either will it?

Trump would carry out the same strikes, AND provide massive propaganda wins to these asshats.We know. Witnesses said he told people in the club to stop bombing his people, I've yet to hear a single witness say he mentioned Trump's rhetoric.

You call Trump a liar when it suits you, why do you now believe he'll target women and children?

[RandomGuy]

If Muslims are so easily recruited by ISIS, what does that say about Islam?

Muslims aren't easily recruited by ISIS.

The numbers of muslims recruited by ISIS as a percentage of overall muslims, is vansishingly small.

Your underlying assumption is therefore rejected.

When will you stop beating your wife?

[RandomGuy]

We know. Witnesses said he told people in the club to stop bombing his people, I've yet to hear a single witness say he mentioned Trump's rhetoric.

You call Trump a liar when it suits you, why do you now believe he'll target women and children?

Because he said he would, moron.

[RandomGuy]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-reiterates-desire-to-murder-terrorists-families-a6912496.html

[RandomGuy]

“The other thing with the terrorists is you have to take out their families, when you get these terrorists, you have to take out their families,” Trump said on Fox News earlier this month. “They care about their lives, don’t kid yourself. When they say they don’t care about their lives, you have to take out their families.” Trump insists that family members “know what is going on,” but in many cases that’s simply not true, especially when it comes to people outside the immediate family circle.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/428719/kill-terrorists-families-gangsta-trump

[djohn2oo8]

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:lol Barry snatching Trumps planters nut clean from his body and playing dice with em

[Aztecfan03]

Saying "radical Islam" is not saying all Muslims are radical.

[Trill Clinton]

barry snatching trumps wig and dragging it in the mud http://i65.tinypic.com/25f64np.png


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkZ5e94QnWk

[DarrinS]

Muslims aren't easily recruited by ISIS.

The numbers of muslims recruited by ISIS as a percentage of overall muslims, is vansishingly small.

Your underlying assumption is therefore rejected.

When will you stop beating your wife?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_kuC35F06E

[Warlord23]

"This great nation of many religions understands, our war is not against Islam, or against faith practiced by the Muslim people. Our war is a war against evil"
- George W Bush, President

"Nor do we describe our enemy as 'jihadists' or 'Islamists' because jihad is a holy struggle, a legitimate tenet of Islam, meaning to purify oneself or one's community, and there is nothing holy or legitimate or Islamic about murdering innocent men, women, and children"
- John O Brennan, Counter-terrorism director under Bush, CIA director under Obama

“I know more about ISIS than the generals do. Believe me.”
"I’m speaking with myself, number one, because I have a very good brain and I’ve said a lot of things"
- Donald J Trump, con artist currently trying to troll tens of millions of people

[TheSanityAnnex]

Because he said he would, moron.
Again, you often call him a liar, why believe him now?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Who knows?

I can tell you that deliberately targeting women and children, like the child-man Trump says he wants... probably won't help much either will it?

Trump would carry out the same strikes, AND provide massive propaganda wins to these asshats.

The Pentagon repudiated Trumps calls for more airstrikes as well. Bombing more indiscriminately is a favorite of those that are trying to appear hawkish when in fact they have no fucking clue.

[CosmicCowboy]

I thought Obama actually sounded pretty petulant today. I think Trump's getting under his skin. :lol

[DarrinS]

I guess rhetoric is more of a recruitment tool than massive drone strikes.

[djohn2oo8]

I thought Obama actually sounded pretty petulant today. I think Trump's getting under his skin. :lol
Of course you would think that. It actually showed, to rational people, just how dumb Trump and his supporters are.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I guess rhetoric is more of a recruitment tool than massive drone strikes.

Trumps asked to step up the bombing. The two notions are not mutually exclusive.

[DarrinS]

Imagine if people were afraid to draw Jesus.

[djohn2oo8]

Now Drump accusing Iraqi war vets of stealing money from the U.S.....Batshit crazy

[boutons_deux]

I thought Obama actually sounded pretty petulant today. I think Trump's getting under his skin. :lol

You wish. Obama won twice, Trash will lose badly, probably worse than McLiar and Bishop Gekko.

The Repugs want those magic words from their knitter! that will beat the terrorists real good.

[RD2191]

Barry O putting the smack down on Trump.

[Trill Clinton]

Barry O putting the smack down on Trump.
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[Big Dog]

Trump rentfree in Obama's head, all up in there :hat

[rmt]

Obama is more angry at Trump than ISIS.

[Reck]

Obama is more angry at Trump than ISIS.

LOL Trump sheeples re-iterate everything the man says. It's so sad.

[rmt]

Maybe ISIS would be more contained if he directed that anger toward radical islamic terrorism instead of Trump. Look at how measured and careful he is with his words when referring to them compared to how he lets loose the anger with blistering words when he refers to Trump. I can see how frustrating Trump must be to his political correctness.

[ElNono]

If Muslims are so easily recruited by ISIS, what does that say about Islam?

If conservatives are so easily recruited by Trump, what does that say about the Republican Party?

[Warlord23]

Maybe ISIS would be more contained if he directed that anger toward radical islamic terrorism instead of Trump. Look at how measured and careful he is with his words when referring to them compared to how he lets loose the anger with blistering words when he refers to Trump. I can see how frustrating Trump must be to his political correctness.

So ISIS would be more contained if Obama had a demonstrative press conference about them? I know you aren't the sharpest tool in the shed, but this is getting repetitively embarrassing. He and his team absolutely need to be calculating and measured when dealing with them.

The reason he's eviscerating Trump is he's sending a signal to moderate Republicans and independents. This level of idiocy was previously displayed by the political fringe (the likes of Palin, Bachmann, Limbaugh and Beck). Now you have a party front-runner who's spewing clueless drivel - even his own party thinks he's batshit. This hasn't happened since maybe Goldwater's talk about nukes. Also, he's basically using this to push Congressional Republicans to either disavow Trump or tie themselves to him.

[rmt]

If he spent more time and effort attacking the REAL enemy instead of using this for political purposes, maybe ISIS would be better contained. He is the President - not an incumbent running again. His job is to protect us Americans - not be making political hay trying to help Hillary and his party at a time like this. How about talking about how they plan to destroy ISIS instead of containing it? Why is all his anger aimed at Trump and the republicans? Why let thousands of refugees in from ISIS-related countries - which probably have possible/future terrorists to further stress the FBI/Homeland Security? If they are so hell-bent on letting in thousands, why not from non-ISIS countries?

[DarrinS]

If conservatives are so easily recruited by Trump, what does that say about the Republican Party?

Well played :lol

[Th'Pusher]

He is the President - not an incumbent running again. His job is to protect us Americans - not be making political hay trying to help Hillary and his party at a time like this.

I'm sure at this point in his presidency he believes the best way he can "protect us Americans" is to prevent the lunatic Donald from ever since sniffing the White House.

And and I have to say I do find it amusing that you actually think Obama's rhetoric affects in any way the US strategy to fight ISiS and other radicalized Islamist groups. Are you fucking kidding me?

[djohn2oo8]

I'm sure at this point in his presidency he believes the best way he can "protect us Americans" is to prevent the lunatic Donald from ever since sniffing the White House.

And and I have to say I do find it amusing that you actually think Obama's rhetoric affects in any way the US strategy to fight ISiS and other radicalized Islamist groups. Are you fucking kidding me?

This. Trump goons are the worst kind of stupid.

[Warlord23]

If he spent more time and effort attacking the REAL enemy instead of using this for political purposes, maybe ISIS would be better contained. He is the President - not an incumbent running again. His job is to protect us Americans - not be making political hay trying to help Hillary and his party at a time like this. How about talking about how they plan to destroy ISIS instead of containing it? Why is all his anger aimed at Trump and the republicans? Why let thousands of refugees in from ISIS-related countries - which probably have possible/future terrorists to further stress the FBI/Homeland Security? If they are so hell-bent on letting in thousands, why not from non-ISIS countries?

1. Why do you think he's not doing all he possibly can? The things suggested by Trump and some in the GOP: launch a ground offensive, "take the oil", carpet bomb civilian areas etc are either not workable or will drag the US deeper into a never-ending conflict. As it stands, ISIS is slowly losing control - a few desperate acts in Western countries won't change their steady decline.

2. Regarding Syrian refugee intake:

(a) Till Dec 2015, the US had admitted about 1,800 from Syria. Obama has proposed admitting 10,000 this year and as of April 2016, only 1,703 refugees have come in. None of these numbers is even in the same stratosphere as the 250,000 number that Trump repeatedly lied about.
(b) The US vetting process (18-24 months long) is the most rigorous among Western nations - contrary to Trump's lies that we do not vet refugees
(c) Of the 1,800 who came in before 2016, 2% are single males of combat age - as opposed to Trump's claim that they are "mostly young, strong men"
(d) Understand that these people have been victimized by ISIS - to claim that they are likely to be pro-ISIS is just stupid. Of the 750,000 refugees admitted since 9/11, only two Iraqis in Kentucky were charged with aiding Al-Qaeda. So the system is pretty robust. A vast majority of Muslim terror threats in the US are from US-born citizens, not from refugees.

3. Obama's responding to Trump strongly because of people like you. Trump knows that you're scared of Muslims, so he has lied his ass off to stoke your fears. And at some point you've abandoned fact-checking and internalized his lies. Despite his unhinged conspiracy theories and fantasies, Trump is the GOP standard-bearer. He is pushing idiotic ideas into the mainstream debate, and Obama (along with some sane Republicans) needs to refute these outright falsehoods and crazy positions.

If you want to regurgitate Trump/Limbaugh/Hannity talking points, please verify them before making a fool of yourself - Google is your friend.

[djohn2oo8]

So ISIS would be more contained if Obama had a demonstrative press conference about them? I know you aren't the sharpest tool in the shed, but this is getting repetitively embarrassing. He and his team absolutely need to be calculating and measured when dealing with them.

The reason he's eviscerating Trump is he's sending a signal to moderate Republicans and independents. This level of idiocy was previously displayed by the political fringe (the likes of Palin, Bachmann, Limbaugh and Beck). Now you have a party front-runner who's spewing clueless drivel - even his own party thinks he's batshit. This hasn't happened since maybe Goldwater's talk about nukes. Also, he's basically using this to push Congressional Republicans to either disavow Trump or tie themselves to him.

Exactly. And as we see so far, Repugs are regretting their endorsements and trying to distance themselves.

[Warlord23]

Seriously though retard, how many times do you have to be shit on for being embarrassingly fucking stupid before you do the right thing and eat a bullet?

Dude, give her a break. At least she's putting out her positions and listening to opposing views. I'd rather give out information that can help her understand issues better. Your approach will just turn her off from listening to anyone other than the Limbaugh/Hannity types who deal in lies and half-truths

[Big Dog]

Jesus, all she does is regurgitate rwnj talking points. It's tiresome.

Think how the rest of the world must look at these deficients
Good god shut the fuck up. You are the epitome of a neolib sjw. Good fucking god the country has enough of yall already.

[RandomGuy]

I thought Obama actually sounded pretty petulant today. I think Trump's getting under his skin. :lol

Meh. Trump sounds petulant every day.

Be hard to imagine that someone saying you sympathize with terrorists wouldn't get under your skin. Good for Obama, finally calling out Trump for his bullshit.

[RandomGuy]

Again, you often call him a liar, why believe him now?

One has to generally take people at their word.

I think Trump lies more than usual.

What bothers me though, is not that I think he would do it. His military advisers would probably caution against committing war crimes, and quite possibly face an outright mutiny if he actually carried through with any orders. The bothersome part is that he would publicly express that kind of sentiment, because it speaks to an erratic temperament even if he never intends to carry it out.

Further bothersome are the morons who believe him. Sad.