Worse loss: Heat vs. Spurs or Cavs vs. Warriors

[Old School 44]

Outside of the fact most here are Spurs fans, and the Spurs were able to redeem themselves the following year, which loss is worse...
the Spurs losing game 6, and eventually the title to the Heat in 2013, or the Warriors losing to the Cavs after being up 3-1?

[SpursforSix]

Outside of the fact most here are Spurs fans, and the Spurs were able to redeem themselves the following year, which loss is worse...
the Spurs losing game 6, and eventually the title to the Heat in 2013, or the Warriors losing to the Cavs after being up 3-1?

Ignoring the fact that the Spurs got a chance to redeem the next year, I'd say the Warriors loss is worse. Losing 3 in a row, twice on the home court.

[Old School 44]

Ignoring the fact that the Spurs got a chance to redeem the next year, I'd say the Warriors loss is worse. Losing 3 in a row, twice on the home court.
I agree, especially after the record season, and some Warriors proclaiming themselves the "best team ever".

[Mr. Body]

The question is more which is the better redemption narrative, Cavs or Spurs.

[SpursforSix]

I agree, especially after the record season, and some Warriors proclaiming themselves the "best team ever".

Not to mention that no team had ever lost the Finals with a 3-1 lead.

[spurs10]

Outside of the fact most here are Spurs fans, and the Spurs were able to redeem themselves the following year, which loss is worse...
the Spurs losing game 6, and eventually the title to the Heat in 2013, or the Warriors losing to the Cavs after being up 3-1? I don't know what it feels like to be a Warriors fan, but the 2013 was not a Finals we were favored ever and the redemption campaign was just epic and amazing. We won that war eventually. This year with the Warriors having the historic run and being up 3-1 is exceedingly worse in my opinion. Although I was pretty damn sick in 2013- that's for sure. The feeling June 15, 2014 was worth the ride.

[look_at_g_shred]

Which was the best series though? As a straight up b-ball fan not as just a spurs fan..

[cjw]

The Warriors were never within 5 seconds of winning the title this year like the 2013 Spurs. Warriors collapse was more painful in broader sense, while Spurs was more painful in the moment and in terms of how close they were.


Game 5: Within 6 to start 4th quarter but never got closer. Was slipping by time Kyrie made three with 5:33 to go (down 13). 15 point loss.

Game 6: Got it to within 7 a few times throughout fourth, but Cleveland pushed lead to 20 within minutes after Curry's sixth foul. 14 point loss.

Game 7: Within one possession most of fourth, but last lead was with 5 minutes to go. Most similar to Game 6 of 2013 with Parker's two shots to tie + put Spurs ahead. Too bad Kawhi's missed first FT was up 2 and not when they were up 3.


On top of it, Spurs had chance to win in game 7. As we know, Duncan missed two shots inside of one minute to tie it. So they essentially experienced what the Cavs did at the end of game 7 in going up in last minute with title in reach, only to lose it, and be inches from it the next game (like Curry's tying three attempt).

[Nathan89]

The question is more which is the better redemption narrative, Cavs or Spurs.

Cavs had injuries last year so its not much of a redemption story. We had our hearts taken out of our chest and many thought it would be our last chance to win. The redemption story isn't even close.

[cd98]

Losing game 6 in 2013 was the worst loss ever. Not that it was an embarrassing feat, like GSW losing 3 straight games. But it was a heart breaking loss given how close the Spurs were to winning and how flukey they lost. You could see the tide changing with GSW losing Bogut and having its main stars miss threes they had made all year. The writing was on the wall by Game 6 that Cavs were going to win. That Spurs loss, however, was so close to over and then went the other way. I just don't know that another team has ever gotten so close to winning a title, and then losing it in a matter of seconds.

[spurs1990]

I also don't remember outside forces (Green suspension 'cough' cough') affecting the 2013 series.

But if you write down the last 90 seconds of 2013 it's quite painful:

1:30 - Parker hits a wild step-back hero-ball 3 pt in James' grill to tie it up at 89-89
0:58 - Parker hits an insane 360 spin around tear drop to put SA up 91-89
0:40 - James hero-balls 20 seconds off the clock, posting up Parker and throws a wild pass Duncan deflects to Leonard
0:37 - Manu hits 2 FTs to put Spurs up 93-89
0:30 - Once again James dribbles the ball and throws up an airball/pass? leading to Manu getting the ball and being fouled
0:28 - Manu goes 1/2 to go up 94-89
0:25 - James clanks badly a 3pt, but Duncan/Leonard knock the ball from each other's hands
0:20 - James finally makes a 3pt off the previous missed rebound - 94-92 Spurs
0:19 - Kawhi goes 1/2 on FTs. 95-92 Spurs
0:11 - James bricks a 3pt, but Bosh gets the board and throws it out....
0:05 - Allen hits the shot heard round the world - tie game 95-95
0:00 - Parker goes full court and gets bodied by James on his shot....OT

OT itself was down to the wire with Green getting a lot of contact on his 3pt tying attempt.

Had our guys made just one more FT I think they win, and James' legacy is damaged for all time with that weak last-minute performance highlighted above.

[siraulo23]

they were selling our shit

:lol

[Keepin' it real]

I also don't remember outside forces (Green suspension 'cough' cough') affecting the 2013 series.

But if you write down the last 90 seconds of 2013 it's quite painful:

1:30 - Parker hits a wild step-back hero-ball 3 pt in James' grill to tie it up at 89-89
0:58 - Parker hits an insane 360 spin around tear drop to put SA up 91-89
0:40 - James hero-balls 20 seconds off the clock, posting up Parker and throws a wild pass Duncan deflects to Leonard
0:37 - Manu hits 2 FTs to put Spurs up 93-89
0:30 - Once again James dribbles the ball and throws up an airball/pass? leading to Manu getting the ball and being fouled
0:28 - Manu goes 1/2 to go up 94-89
0:25 - James clanks badly a 3pt, but Duncan/Leonard knock the ball from each other's hands
0:20 - James finally makes a 3pt off the previous missed rebound - 94-92 Spurs
0:19 - Kawhi goes 1/2 on FTs. 95-92 Spurs
0:11 - James bricks a 3pt, but Bosh gets the board and throws it out....
0:05 - Allen hits the shot heard round the world - tie game 95-95
0:00 - Parker goes full court and gets bodied by James on his shot....OT

OT itself was down to the wire with Green getting a lot of contact on his 3pt tying attempt.

Had our guys made just one more FT I think they win, and James' legacy is damaged for all time with that weak last-minute performance highlighted above.

But then the Spurs don't win in 2014 because it is not in their DNA to repeat, so they would have lost to OKC in the 2014 WCF, and OKC would have lost to the Heat in the finals, so Lebron would have stayed with the Heat ... and on and on.

[Spurs9]

Ill go Warriors, Spurs was 1 rebound, Warriors were multiple games

[Obstructed_View]

Miami won 66 games. Spurs got beat by a team they were supposed to lose to.

[SAGirl]

Not to mention that no team had ever lost the Finals with a 3-1 lead.
The Cavs redemption story is epic for sure. I am not a fan by any means of that team, even casually, but I felt genuinely happy for them. Having so many guys injured last season was a very sorry state and young guys like Kyrie one could tell he wanted to rise to the occasion. And LeBron is due to hit a point where he won't be able to be the main player in a championship team and when that happens like it did the big 3, it will be very difficult to impossible for him to win. In a way I felt he was running out of time to win a last championship as the best player in a team.

That said precisely the fact they were not whole past season made it so the loss was expected, predictable and not as heartbreaking as ours was... but again not a Cavs fan here. Their redemption story is still epic bc of the come back from down 3-1 was so unprecedented and the historic alleged best team ever (phony).

As a fan I have to go with ours, but both teams set records and are probably equally epic. Though the narrative is going to pump up LeBron.

[SAGirl]

Ill go Warriors, Spurs was 1 rebound, Warriors were multiple games
For the original question I go with this guy ^
GSW also made so much issue of their historic season. Their choke act was worse. As for the suspension. Raymond brought that on himself.

[tholdren]

I also don't remember outside forces (Green suspension 'cough' cough') affecting the 2013 series.

But if you write down the last 90 seconds of 2013 it's quite painful:

1:30 - Parker hits a wild step-back hero-ball 3 pt in James' grill to tie it up at 89-89
0:58 - Parker hits an insane 360 spin around tear drop to put SA up 91-89
0:40 - James hero-balls 20 seconds off the clock, posting up Parker and throws a wild pass Duncan deflects to Leonard
0:37 - Manu hits 2 FTs to put Spurs up 93-89
0:30 - Once again James dribbles the ball and throws up an airball/pass? leading to Manu getting the ball and being fouled
0:28 - Manu goes 1/2 to go up 94-89
0:25 - James clanks badly a 3pt, but Duncan/Leonard knock the ball from each other's hands
0:20 - James finally makes a 3pt off the previous missed rebound - 94-92 Spurs
0:19 - Kawhi goes 1/2 on FTs. 95-92 Spurs
0:11 - James bricks a 3pt, but Bosh gets the board and throws it out....
0:05 - Allen hits the shot heard round the world - tie game 95-95
0:00 - Parker goes full court and gets bodied by James on his shot....OT

OT itself was down to the wire with Green getting a lot of contact on his 3pt tying attempt.

Had our guys made just one more FT I think they win, and James' legacy is damaged for all time with that weak last-minute performance highlighted above.
yet player fans considered KL not a retard.

[russellgoat]

IF THE REF DIDN'T HELPED THE SPURS SO MUCH IN THE 3RD QUARTER OF GAME 6 THE HEAT WOULD HAVE BLOWN OUT THE SPURS.

[Old School 44]

Next year will be interesting for the Warriors. Where the Spurs kept their core rotation together after their 2013 loss, I believe the Warriors will make some major changes, even if they don't get Durant.

Even though they are a top rival, I wouldn't be surprised to hear sometime in the coming months that Kerr spoke to Pop and asked his advice on handling such a devastating loss.

[skulls138]

IF THE REF DIDN'T HELPED THE SPURS SO MUCH IN THE 3RD QUARTER OF GAME 6 THE HEAT WOULD HAVE BLOWN OUT THE SPURS.Doesnt matter now does it Mr CAPITAL LETTERS MAN? We kind of erased that whole thing.

[skulls138]

Next year will be interesting for the Warriors. Where the Spurs kept their core rotation together after their 2013 loss, I believe the Warriors will make some major changes, even if they don't get Durant.

Even though they are a top rival, I wouldn't be surprised to hear sometime in the coming months that Kerr spoke to Pop and asked his advice on handling such a devastating loss.I dont think guard play is taking over the league like people think. In the playoffs you need size. Right now GSW reminds me of the Suns of Nash and Diaw.

[99 Problems]

Not even close

730-9 season
3-1
home court
light years on and off
greatest team ever (trash) talk
cavs left King Delly on bench giving Curry sporting chance this year

[SPURt]

Aside from the historical regular season and being favorited it's the home court. GSW losing the 2 out of the 3 at home would have been horrible to witness.

[SpurPadre]

The main thing these two losses have in common is that they each give Lebron an asterisk next to his first title, which has an asterisk because it was during a shortened season and if people give us shit about our first title being an asterisk because it was a shortened season, the Heat should get one too.

[look_at_g_shred]

Aside from the historical regular season and being favorited it's the home court. GSW losing the 2 out of the 3 at home would have been horrible to witness.
What do you mean would have? They did lose 2 of the 3 at home.

[kobyz]

But then the Spurs don't win in 2014 because it is not in their DNA to repeat, so they would have lost to OKC in the 2014 WCF, and OKC would have lost to the Heat in the finals, so Lebron would have stayed with the Heat ... and on and on.

I would still take winning in 2013 instead of 2014 no doubt at all as it would have been much more exciting and dream title as out of nowhere title with Duncan MVP and not have to live with the pain, hurt and trauma for life of the most heartbreaking loss all time in sport... About your prediction that we lose 2014, you are a denial coward, you made that prediction just trying to make 2013 look less hurt and make you feel better with yourself... So to continue your stupid game of what if, I'll say that if we lose 2014 we would won again in 2015 or 2016...

[.G.]

:lol 73-9
:lol nothing but steph
:lol up 3-1 in the finals
:lol greatest team of all time

[Sean Cagney]

W's, they were heavily favored and had a 3-1 lead in the series, the Spurs were not favored in the 2013 series by anyone sides some of us fans.

[soxxx]

they were selling our shitTrue but they probably printed off way more shit for the Warriors.

[AFMadison]

I wanna see the Warriors reaction. Do they have a message board?

[lefty]

:cry it still hurts

[SPURt]

What do you mean would have? They did lose 2 of the 3 at home.
I meant it would've been horrible to be a fan of the Warriors and watch that play out. I should've used "must've been awful".

[look_at_g_shred]

I wanna see the Warriors reaction. Do they have a message board?

[Proxy]

Spurs loss was obviously worse. The game was over.

[Chinook]

I just hope the visitors' locker room at Oracle still smells like champagne next season.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

I just hope the visitors' locker room at Oracle still smells like champagne next season.

That's cold, man :lol

I'm sure LeBron will mention it next season.

[Chinook]

That's cold, man :lol

I'm sure LeBron will mention it next season.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/curry-on-playing-in-cleveland-hopefully-it-smells-like-champagne/

He probably mentioned it a whole lot last season.

[ginobilized]

On the flip side of this, Cavs series loss in 2015 might be worse. Kyrie doesn't break his knee in game 1 Cavs repeat this year.
But, psychologically, I think the Warriors will have a harder time bouncing back than the Spurs did.

[Oh, Gee!!]

Warriors. They had a shot at history, and at something that would probably never be duplicated.

[hater]

Nothing comes close to Spurs losing game 6 after championship was locked.

They were already shining the trophy in the back, assembling the tables, most Heat fans were in the parking lot and we even subbed Timmy out and Dejua. Blair was hugging him in celebration.


Absolutely nothing comes close to that :cry

[hater]

Ill go Warriors, Spurs was 1 rebound, Warriors were multiple games

We lost the championship due to 1 rebound. Worriers? They had 3 entire games to close it out and 2 in their home floor.

Worriers didn't deserve it in the end.

Spurs? One rebound? We probably deserved it. Most heartbreaking loss in history of human interactions

[Budkin]

Warriors. They had a shot at history, and at something that would probably never be duplicated.

[florige]

Nothing comes close to Spurs losing game 6 after championship was locked.

They were already shining the trophy in the back, assembling the tables, most Heat fans were in the parking lot and we even subbed Timmy out and Dejua. Blair was hugging him in celebration.


Absolutely nothing comes close to that :cry

Wow way to rehash sheeesh..... :depressed

[florige]

I didn't even bother watching game 7. I knew we were finished.

[SD126]

Game 6. NOT even close.

[313]

they were selling our shit

[SASdynasty!]

I would still take winning in 2013 instead of 2014 no doubt at all as it would have been much more exciting and dream title as out of nowhere title with Duncan MVP and not have to live with the pain, hurt and trauma for life of the most heartbreaking loss all time in sport... About your prediction that we lose 2014, you are a denial coward, you made that prediction just trying to make 2013 look less hurt and make you feel better with yourself... So to continue your stupid game of what if, I'll say that if we lose 2014 we would won again in 2015 or 2016...
If we win in 6, Parker takes FMVP. No way they don't give it to him after carrying the Spurs that whole season and playoffs and with the G1 & G6 heroics.

[spurs10]

I just hope the visitors' locker room at Oracle still smells like champagne next season. Yeah it's funny how that kind of arrogance will come back to haunt you!

[BillMc]

Yeah it's funny how that kind of arrogance will come back to haunt you!

Yep.

Didn't Klay Thompson also say they were better than his dad's Showtime Lakers? Oops, not this season I guess...

Karma.

[spurs10]

Yep.

Didn't Klay Thompson also say they were better than his dad's Showtime Lakers? Oops, not this season I guess...

Karma.

Yep!

[SpursFan86]

Depends on what you mean by "worse". If you mean more heartbreaking/upsetting, I think it's 2013 easily (obviously I'm biased, but I'm pretty sure I'd feel this way even if I weren't a Spurs fan). If you mean more embarrassing/damning, then I think it's the Warriors.