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BatManu20
06-23-2016, 10:59 AM
Non-spoiler thread. Draft starts at 7:30ET. Let's get it.


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Keepin' it real
06-23-2016, 11:02 AM
What's the over/under on how many times we'll see/hear/read that the Spurs "did it again" by drafting yet another diamond in the rough ... he'll be a great fit ... prototypical Spur ... outstanding value pick ... was projected as a lottery pick ... how do Pop and RC do it?

BatManu20
06-23-2016, 11:02 AM
Lot out of people on here want Thon Maker. Pretty sure he's at least 21, and could be as old as 24. I'll pass.

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Chinook
06-23-2016, 11:03 AM
The fuck is it with people not knowing their own age?

:lol a 24-year-old man getting praise for dominating high-school kids. Even worse than the Jordan Shipley hype.

palangi
06-23-2016, 11:06 AM
Lot out of people on here want Thon Maker. Pretty sure he's at least 21, and could be as old as 24. I'll pass.

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That means he could have been a 23 year old high schooler.

BatManu20
06-23-2016, 11:07 AM
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TheMulletMan3000
06-23-2016, 11:11 AM
Thon could have made it to the NBA even being 23 because of his potential. Lying won't get you nowhere. Will be interesting to see if the allegations were true.

BatManu20
06-23-2016, 11:16 AM
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Obstructed_View
06-23-2016, 11:17 AM
Thon could have made it to the NBA even being 23 because of his potential. Lying won't get you nowhere. Will be interesting to see if the allegations were true.

Being that dominant over people the same age as you is worth a lot more money than dominating people five years younger than you. Lying could have gotten him a shitload more money. If he's a decent player, his contract will be the same whether he lies or not.

DPG21920
06-23-2016, 11:18 AM
DraftPG

BatManu20
06-23-2016, 11:19 AM
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BatManu20
06-23-2016, 11:19 AM
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TheGoldStandard
06-23-2016, 11:20 AM
Rumor perpetrated by RC in order to snag him later in the draft. CIA Pop..

BatManu20
06-23-2016, 11:20 AM
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Chinook
06-23-2016, 11:21 AM
Wouldn't be surprised to see Thon go undrafted. Such a disgrace

SPURt
06-23-2016, 11:24 AM
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HAHAHA! That's hilarious!

Emperor
06-23-2016, 11:28 AM
Thon we hardly knew ya.

TheGoldStandard
06-23-2016, 11:29 AM
It's speculation and hearsay.

SPURt
06-23-2016, 11:29 AM
Wouldn't be surprised to see Thon go undrafted. Such a disgrace
Why? I said this in another thread, but there are questions about Ibaka and Biyombo's age. Being born in the Sudan or the Congo isn't like being born into a country like America where there are stringent laws about reporting population. Maker relocated to Australia when he was 5, or supposedly 5, to escape civil war. That is the first documentation of his age. He probably lived a portion of his life thinking he is younger than he actually is. It's not like he was thinking he was going to play in the NBA when he escaped war torn Sudan.

DPG21920
06-23-2016, 11:31 AM
Spurs going to draft Thon & Chinook going to go ham lol

SPURt
06-23-2016, 11:31 AM
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Why did they omit Kawhi?

TheGoldStandard
06-23-2016, 11:34 AM
Spurs going to draft Thon & Chinook going to go ham lol

:pop: He doesn't even know what his birthday is... he's gotten over himself.

TheGoldStandard
06-23-2016, 11:35 AM
Why did they omit Kawhi?

Pacers draft pick.

Keepin' it real
06-23-2016, 11:35 AM
Wouldn't be surprised to see Thon go undrafted. Such a disgrace

If he's any good, this exactly the kind of scenario I asked about in another draft thread about why great college players don't slide in the draft like they do in the NFL. If "Thon" is a great talent, then he could be the Spurs' equivalent of drafting a Randy Moss or Warren Sapp late in the 1st round.

Chinook
06-23-2016, 11:37 AM
Why?

'Cause he sucks. It was already a strike against him because he was playing against high-schoolers. Now we find out he's a grown-assed man? It's obscene. Again, he's no better than Ryan Richards was back in the day. At least Richards was playing against people his own age.

Spur|n|Austin
06-23-2016, 11:39 AM
Why did they omit Kawhi?

Spurs didn't draft Kawhi...

Chinook
06-23-2016, 11:39 AM
If he's any good, this exactly the kind of scenario I asked about in another draft thread about why great college players don't slide in the draft like they do in the NFL. If "Thon" is a great talent, then he could be the Spurs' equivalent of drafting a Randy Moss or Warren Sapp late in the 1st round.

Thon is getting massively overrated. He doesn't even look good in highlight vids for god's sake. People are acting like this is the 50s.

Chinook
06-23-2016, 11:40 AM
Spurs going to draft Thon & Chinook going to go ham lol

Only thing worse than Thon is Qi.

Big Empty
06-23-2016, 11:42 AM
wooohoo I want Thon

BatManu20
06-23-2016, 11:45 AM
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BatManu20
06-23-2016, 11:49 AM
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DPG21920
06-23-2016, 11:50 AM
I will be so happy if SA gets him but doesn't look likely unless SA moves up some.

BatManu20
06-23-2016, 11:50 AM
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Trill Clinton
06-23-2016, 12:00 PM
this draft is going to be lit. i heard rumblings of us trading a fan favorite to move up.

Spurs Brazil
06-23-2016, 12:06 PM
this draft is going to be lit. i heard rumblings of us trading a fan favorite to move up.

Simmons?

dabom
06-23-2016, 12:06 PM
this draft is going to be lit. i heard rumblings of us trading a fan favorite to move up.

Does tony count?....

FvckMavs
06-23-2016, 12:07 PM
Mills

this draft is going to be lit. i heard rumblings of us trading a fan favorite to move up.

NASpurs
06-23-2016, 12:08 PM
Does tony count?....

Doubt it, he said "to move up".

Ron Swanson
06-23-2016, 12:09 PM
I think Mills is gone this evening.

dabom
06-23-2016, 12:09 PM
Doubt it, he said "to move up".

:lmao

TheGoldStandard
06-23-2016, 12:11 PM
Mills and the 29 for Nerlens Noel

DPG21920
06-23-2016, 12:14 PM
this draft is going to be lit. i heard rumblings of us trading a fan favorite to move up.

Took your advice and I'm in BKY my man ��

BatManu20
06-23-2016, 12:15 PM
Mills and the 29 for Nerlens Noel

:lol Philly can do better than that.

NASpurs
06-23-2016, 12:15 PM
Mills and the 29 for Nerlens Noel

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duncan2150
06-23-2016, 12:16 PM
I think Mills is gone this evening.

He's clearly our best asset : good player, cheap contract.... and he has a connection with the 76ers and Brown as Australian HC. ( pick 24 and 26)

TheGoldStandard
06-23-2016, 12:17 PM
:lol Philly can do better than that.

Mills gives them shooting. lol.. and Brett owes us one.

NASpurs
06-23-2016, 12:18 PM
It's Danny Green because his locker room was cleaned out...





:lol

TheGoldStandard
06-23-2016, 12:19 PM
It's Danny Green because his locker room was cleaned out...




:lol

Danny and the 29 for Noel and the 24th?

SPURt
06-23-2016, 12:25 PM
Pacers draft pick.
I understand the Spurs didn't have the draft pick that became Kawhi, but the Pacers must've drafted Kawhi in order to complete the deal for George Hill. So if the Pacers drafted Kawhi for the Spurs with no intention of keeping him wouldn't Kawhi be the Spurs draft pick?

Mr. Body
06-23-2016, 12:26 PM
Malik Beasley certainly seems a target. If Mills is the casualty, this is the sort of player you go for.

Mr. Body
06-23-2016, 12:27 PM
Danny and the 29 for Noel and the 24th?

If Noel can get the 3, why do you think he's with Green and the 29?

DPG21920
06-23-2016, 12:28 PM
Malik Beasley certainly seems a target. If Mills is the casualty, this is the sort of player you go for.

That would be bad a**

Chinook
06-23-2016, 12:30 PM
If Noel can get the 3, why do you think he's with Green and the 29?

He's not getting three by himself, apparently. If so, the deal would be done already.

Mr. Body
06-23-2016, 12:32 PM
He's not getting three by himself, apparently. If so, the deal would be done already.

Why would it be done already? Any rumors have the Celtics discussing him or Okafor.

Chinook
06-23-2016, 12:37 PM
Why would it be done already? Any rumors have the Celtics discussing him or Okafor.

Jonathan Givony @DraftExpress

Market for Nerlens Noel seems to be far overstated by some. More likely he fetches a late lottery pick in a trade as opposed to top-5 pick.

TheGoldStandard
06-23-2016, 12:38 PM
If Noel can get the 3, why do you think he's with Green and the 29?

sixers want scoring and Green is a better talent now then anyone 1-10 in the draft..

Chinook
06-23-2016, 12:39 PM
sixers want scoring and Green is a better talent now then anyone 1-10 in the draft..

Wut.

TheGoldStandard
06-23-2016, 12:41 PM
Wut.

Let me explain.. He's more NBA ready to run a Brett Brown system and actually do something in it than a rookie coming in and having to learn his role etc.. He's been apart of a championship team and championship team runs. Good glue guy.

Chinook
06-23-2016, 12:42 PM
Let me explain.. He's more NBA ready to run a Brett Brown system and actually do something in it than a rookie coming in and having to learn his role etc.. He's been apart of a championship team and championship team runs. Good glue guy.

While I can understand that argument as to why the Sixers would want him and even why a guy like Noel would be available for Green, I don't think anyone would consider Danny a better talent than Simmons (even if I think he's going to bust).

Kawhitstorm
06-23-2016, 12:45 PM
The fuck is it with people not knowing their own age?

It's not that he doesn't his own age, it's just that they lie about it.:lol

NASpurs
06-23-2016, 12:50 PM
I mean, Hawks still want to give up their 12th pick (unless something has changed from yesterday). Celtics have a ton of picks too. Who knows what Philly is planning to do but they're active.

playblair
06-23-2016, 01:01 PM
this draft is going to be lit. i heard rumblings of us trading a fan favorite to move up.

trill clinton is legit
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objective
06-23-2016, 01:17 PM
I hope Danny Green is not traded. Very little chance they get fair value for him, and dumping him one season after that huge discount would be awful. At least give him two seasons before dumping. His contact is so cheap compared to value that I would turn down 12 without blinking.

dabom
06-23-2016, 01:19 PM
If we get durant, I'd like to keep green. Bruce bowen off the bench.

cd98
06-23-2016, 01:25 PM
These teams stockpiled on draft picks in hopes of cashing them in a trade for an all-star. That didn't work and so now they are sweating bc they actually have to draft someone.

Big Empty
06-23-2016, 01:26 PM
Danny's inability to dribble and to create is more of a liability than is defense can make up for.

Keepin' it real
06-23-2016, 01:26 PM
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Like that other guy from Florida a couple of years ago with the magical 3 point shot ... ooh, what a steal in the second round ... and never heard from again ... please no more of those.

Keepin' it real
06-23-2016, 01:29 PM
It's Danny Green because his locker room was cleaned out...
:lol


La prueba está en el pudín.

Chinook
06-23-2016, 01:29 PM
Danny's inability to dribble and to create is more of a liability than is defense can make up for.

Doesn't seem to stop DeAndre Jordan.

cd98
06-23-2016, 01:30 PM
Wut.

I agree that it sounds ridiculous that Danny Green is better than 1-10. In reality, 5 of the top 10 will fail out of the NBA and 3 may never be starters on an NBA team. But they all have the potential to be better than Green and they are younger, so why not gamble on the lottery. If one of those teams needed a 3-D and had enough talent at other positions, it's conceivable they might make that trade, but we're talking about teams that are in the bottom part of the lottery.

raybies
06-23-2016, 01:31 PM
Mock draft 10.0 on ESPN has us taking Isaiah cousins. I think this would be a good pick but in the second round. I mentioned him in the draft thread. This guy is a gym rat. He is a combo guard and a really good defender. Not my first selection but he is a for year player and would be ready to play day one.

Ron Swanson
06-23-2016, 01:36 PM
Thad Young to the Pacers for #20 and a future 2nd pick.

Spurs9
06-23-2016, 01:37 PM
Wonder where the hawks 12 ends up.

Keepin' it real
06-23-2016, 01:39 PM
What about Domantas Sabonis? Is he better than that Giminski guy from Wisconsin who just tiptoed his was through his rookie season? Cowherd was mildly promoting Sabonis as a good pick today.

raybies
06-23-2016, 01:40 PM
Wade Baldwin dropping in the ESPN and Dx mocks.

montgod
06-23-2016, 01:42 PM
Jake Fischer: The Houston Rockets have called teams gauging interest in Trevor Ariza, Patrick Beverley and K.J. McDaniels, according to a league source.

Spurs9
06-23-2016, 01:43 PM
Jake Fischer: The Houston Rockets have called teams gauging interest in Trevor Ariza, Patrick Beverley and K.J. McDaniels, according to a league source.
I wouldn't mind Ariza or Beverley.

palangi
06-23-2016, 01:46 PM
Doesn't seem to stop DeAndre Jordan.
you just compared a 2 guard dribbling skills with a center. talk about he ultimate apples to oranges comparison!

dabom
06-23-2016, 01:47 PM
I wouldn't mind Ariza or Beverley.

If houston doesn't want them, what makes you think the Spurs would want them?

BatManu20
06-23-2016, 01:49 PM
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SpursforSix
06-23-2016, 01:51 PM
I hope Danny Green is not traded. Very little chance they get fair value for him, and dumping him one season after that huge discount would be awful. At least give him two seasons before dumping. His contact is so cheap compared to value that I would turn down 12 without blinking.

I can see that side of things. But if he sucks next season, they might not be able to get the same in return. But I'd only want him traded now if 1) they need to make room for Durant or 2) they've identified a draft pick that can have a quick impact.

Chinook
06-23-2016, 01:51 PM
Score another one for Zika.

loveforthegame
06-23-2016, 01:51 PM
They need to release a statement for that? :lol

BatManu20
06-23-2016, 01:52 PM
Zipser is a guy I thought the Spurs would be interested in a few months ago. Thought he would be gone by the time we pick though.

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jyra
06-23-2016, 02:04 PM
He played pretty well at the last Eurobasket tournament but I don't think that drafting another SF makes much sense given the bigger needs at other positions. Especially with Bertans and maybe even Hanga coming over.

Kawhitstorm
06-23-2016, 02:04 PM
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20th pick:bang

NASpurs
06-23-2016, 02:24 PM
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r0drig0lac
06-23-2016, 02:29 PM
These teams stockpiled on draft picks in hopes of cashing them in a trade for an all-star. That didn't work and so now they are sweating bc they actually have to draft someone.

this

coachmac87
06-23-2016, 02:30 PM
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This needs to be done so OKC can pitch long term plan to KD. They can't afford to have KD, Westbrook, Ibaka and Adams on the market next year. I've been saying it all along "one more year" isn't gonna get KD to sign on the dotted line..

NASpurs
06-23-2016, 02:30 PM
Who knows how long that dude is going to last being 34 with bad knees. Might as well get something for him while you can.

SpursforSix
06-23-2016, 02:31 PM
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That's surprising I think.

dabom
06-23-2016, 02:31 PM
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This screams Durant leaving tbh.

SpursforSix
06-23-2016, 02:32 PM
Who knows how long that dude is going to last being 34 with bad knees. Might as well get something for him while you can.

who's 34?

NASpurs
06-23-2016, 02:32 PM
who's 34?

Abaka

TheGoldStandard
06-23-2016, 02:32 PM
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29 and Kyle Anderson..

DPG21920
06-23-2016, 02:33 PM
Not at all. It screams that they see a future with Kanter/Adams and don't want to spend money on Ibaka as well esp after a down year.

They know they need cheap talent to build that roster and trading a older player like Ibaka for a lottery pick is the way.

dabom
06-23-2016, 02:36 PM
Not at all. It screams that they see a future with Kanter/Adams and don't want to spend money on Ibaka as well esp after a down year.

They know they need cheap talent to build that roster and trading a older player like Ibaka for a lottery pick is the way.

Yeah it does. It also screams that OKC are cheap bastards and will continue to dilute their roster.

Keepin' it real
06-23-2016, 02:36 PM
Even though Ibaka seems to make every shot he takes when he plays the Spurs, I don't think he's "all that." And apparently neither does OKC. Still, surprising to see this.

Chinook
06-23-2016, 02:37 PM
Not at all. It screams that they see a future with Kanter/Adams and don't want to spend money on Ibaka as well esp after a down year.

They know they need cheap talent to build that roster and trading a older player like Ibaka for a lottery pick is the way.

And all that is well and good, but how does trading Ibaka affect their pitch to Durant?

montgod
06-23-2016, 02:39 PM
Abaka

No he isn't.. .he is 27

jermaine
06-23-2016, 02:39 PM
Oooooh would i love ole Serge on the Spurs beside LMA!!!

dabom
06-23-2016, 02:40 PM
I'm glad this rumor is out now. KD will have more incentive to leave.

NASpurs
06-23-2016, 02:40 PM
No he isn't.. .he is 27

Yeah I'm exaggerating obviously, but everyone knows he's much older than what his age is being reported as. Same shit as Thom Maker and Mutombo back in the day.

RD2191
06-23-2016, 02:41 PM
No he isn't.. .he is 27
But he's african. Their years count double in america. He's actually 54.

TheGoldStandard
06-23-2016, 02:41 PM
Yeah I'm exaggerating obviously, but everyone knows he's much older than what his age is being reported as.

He's probably like 32

NASpurs
06-23-2016, 02:42 PM
He's probably like 32

:lol seems my exaggeration might be closer to his real age than what people actually say he is.

Nathan89
06-23-2016, 02:51 PM
Besides just money it's easy to move on from Ibaka. They have two bigs to play against big lineups. Durant will be playing at the 4 spot vs their biggest threat on defense. Roberson was pretty effective on pick n rolls as well as a 4 on offense.

Hoops Czar
06-23-2016, 02:53 PM
He's probably like 32

Don't all non-citizens working in the U.S. need a valid social security number? It would be pretty hard to forge one of those without somebody finding out pretty quickly.

BatManu20
06-23-2016, 02:58 PM
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SpursforSix
06-23-2016, 03:00 PM
Abaka

Is that a guesstimate?

NASpurs
06-23-2016, 03:01 PM
Is that a guesstimate?


Only way to find out how old he truly is to cut him in half and count the rings.

TheGoldStandard
06-23-2016, 03:02 PM
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I'm sure a lot of teams are interested.. Don't see what they can offer that would facilitate a deal

SpursforSix
06-23-2016, 03:02 PM
Only way to find out how old he truly is to cut him in half and count the rings.

he doesn't have any rings. cutting him in half seems cruel.

montgod
06-23-2016, 03:03 PM
I'm sure a lot of teams are interested.. Don't see what they can offer that would facilitate a deal

I thought Chicago already said they wouldn't trade Butler unless if it was for another upcoming young player like Wiggins? Or it could just be OKC putting it out there to make it look like they trying to improve for KD with inquiry of Butler.

BatManu20
06-23-2016, 03:05 PM
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tmtcsc
06-23-2016, 03:06 PM
Oooooh would i love ole Serge on the Spurs beside LMA!!!

? They would be beside each other on the 3 pt line most likely. Spurs need someone who can play D and rebound. That's not Ibaka. He likes them 3 point shots. Maybe GS will take him.

Mr. Body
06-23-2016, 03:06 PM
Huh. I see shopping Ibaka as hurting in keeping KD. I don't see them getting adequate value for him in return.

Emperor
06-23-2016, 03:08 PM
Damn if OKC snags Butler and Durant re-signs then we're f'd and so is the rest of the league.

montgod
06-23-2016, 03:09 PM
Damn if OKC snags Butler and Durant re-signs then we're f'd and so is the rest of the league.

I just don't see what OKC could give them of equal worth. No way they can get Butler and I don't think Chicago is shopping him unless it's for a player like Wiggins. It's all a front for KD... to show they trying.

TheGoldStandard
06-23-2016, 03:10 PM
Damn if OKC snags Butler and Durant re-signs then we're f'd and so is the rest of the league.

They'd have to free up 19 mil to take on his contract an give up something the bulls would covet.. Lol.. Westbrook for Butler?

look_at_g_shred
06-23-2016, 03:10 PM
I just don't see what OKC could give them of equal worth. No way they can get Butler and I don't think Chicago is shopping him unless it's for a player like Wiggins. It's all a front for KD... to show they trying.
Butler for Westbrook

montgod
06-23-2016, 03:10 PM
Butler for Westbrook

No way... they trade Westbrook.

Leetonidas
06-23-2016, 03:11 PM
Butler is overrated as hell imo. I hope OKC trades ibaka because it seems like no matter what he is hitting clutch shots against the spurs. I don't remember him missing many 3s tbh

look_at_g_shred
06-23-2016, 03:14 PM
No way... they trade Westbrook.
i think they would if it meant Durant staying

TheGoldStandard
06-23-2016, 03:17 PM
i think they would if it meant Durant staying

The lineup of Payne, Butler, KD, Kanter, Adams isn't that scary with waiters off the bench.

Kawhitstorm
06-23-2016, 03:17 PM
Not at all. It screams that they see a future with Kanter/Adams and don't want to spend money on Ibaka as well esp after a down year.

Ibaka was a MAJOR reason they almost beat the Duds while Anus Cancer was warming the bench.:wakeup

look_at_g_shred
06-23-2016, 03:18 PM
The lineup of Payne, Butler, KD, Kanter, Adams isn't that scary with waiters off the bench.
I know I read somewhere about Durant talking about his FA...he said that the money didn't matter it was about the type of people he was going to be around everyday. Maybe he was talking about Westbrook..

montgod
06-23-2016, 03:21 PM
The lineup of Payne, Butler, KD, Kanter, Adams isn't that scary with waiters off the bench.

I agree, but there is something to be said about playing within the construct of the offense and what you are trying to accomplish. Westbrook does do his own thing and usually at the wrong times. Butler is definitely not a better player than Westbrook, but he boasts some great numbers especially with his assists. In saying all that, I still can't belive Durant would not want to continue playing with Westbrook till it happens. OKC better be consulting with him constantly cause they already were burnt when they traded Harden away.

BatManu20
06-23-2016, 03:23 PM
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Kawhitstorm
06-23-2016, 03:24 PM
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I've seen a LOT of Juan Hernan in mock drafts since February.

TheGoldStandard
06-23-2016, 03:25 PM
I agree, but there is something to be said about playing within the construct of the offense and what you are trying to accomplish. Westbrook does do his own thing and usually at the wrong times. Butler is definitely not a better player than Westbrook, but he boasts some great numbers especially with his assists. In saying all that, I still can't belive Durant would not want to continue playing with Westbrook till it happens. OKC better be consulting with him constantly cause they already were burnt when they traded Harden away.


I get what you're saying but my primary thought process is how San Antonio would match up with that lineup.. Kawhi and Green match up more favorably with Butler and KD.

NASpurs
06-23-2016, 03:26 PM
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montgod
06-23-2016, 03:27 PM
I get what you're saying but my primary thought process is how San Antonio would match up with that lineup.. Kawhi and Green match up more favorably with Butler and KD.

Oh yeah... fully agree. I would love the trade for Spurs lol!

TheGoldStandard
06-23-2016, 03:28 PM
I've seen a LOT of Juan Hernan in mock drafts since February.

Ugh... 2 years away from coming over.

SAGirl
06-23-2016, 03:29 PM
And all that is well and good, but how does trading Ibaka affect their pitch to Durant? I don't know truly. Definitely they need updates in their backcourt and wings I believe. The only guard they could trust is Waiters and he's :bang . The talent, athleticism and ability to score is there but he makes bad decisions and they already have Westbrook for that. :lol But Cameron Payne showed flashes in the regular season and he's very, very young too, so maybe they give him a second season b4 looking at guards. They also need wing help as Roberson was terrific for them defensively but only had about 1 or 2 good shooting games and they were against the Spurs bc no one was guarding him, he was left wide open (was it Tony on him?):lol

houston spurs fan
06-23-2016, 03:31 PM
Why? I said this in another thread, but there are questions about Ibaka and Biyombo's age. Being born in the Sudan or the Congo isn't like being born into a country like America where there are stringent laws about reporting population. Maker relocated to Australia when he was 5, or supposedly 5, to escape civil war. That is the first documentation of his age. He probably lived a portion of his life thinking he is younger than he actually is. It's not like he was thinking he was going to play in the NBA when he escaped war torn Sudan.
Thanks a bunch for sharing the links to the Ibaka documentary from Grantland. Obviously don't like OKC, but how can you not respect a guy who at age 11 was sleeping in cars or on the streets of the Congo. His rise to the NBA is almost like a far fetched movie. I gained a lot of respect for him from that piece, unbelievable determination and grit.

SAGirl
06-23-2016, 03:33 PM
Besides just money it's easy to move on from Ibaka. They have two bigs to play against big lineups. Durant will be playing at the 4 spot vs their biggest threat on defense. Roberson was pretty effective on pick n rolls as well as a 4 on offense.
And Adams is the big man they will want to retain. He's become their defensive anchor so Ibaka is not as needed. I think he's also going to be a FA. Going back to Durant. It affects their pitch bc they are already making a choice on whom they are going to keep in 16-17 offseason to make the pitch to Durant on how the team will look then and who they will aim to retain.

Robz4000
06-23-2016, 03:36 PM
746073513753075713

It'd be amazing if the Spurs got Denzel Valentine tbh.

HarlemHeat37
06-23-2016, 03:44 PM
OKC is going to be interesting to follow, they're still an extremely flawed team, despite their nice playoff run that was heavily aided by good fortune..their defense is still very mediocre..

BatManu20
06-23-2016, 03:48 PM
746081683036770304

TheGoldStandard
06-23-2016, 03:49 PM
746081683036770304

Boo

Floyd Pacquiao
06-23-2016, 03:51 PM
Please for the love of god trade ibaka OKC

JR3
06-23-2016, 03:55 PM
I want Isaiah cousins.

JR3
06-23-2016, 03:55 PM
Please for the love of god trade ibaka OKC
For real! Dude sucks all season and doesn't miss against the Spurs..

jermaine
06-23-2016, 03:57 PM
746081683036770304

I like tbat dude... watching his videos.... He seems better on the offensive side of the ball than Green

TD 21
06-23-2016, 04:07 PM
With their affinity for international players and the bevy of them projected to be available at 29, going that route obviously can't be ruled out, but this is one of those rare years where I think finding immediate help, at a position of need, trumps that.

This team desperately needs help in the back court. It doesn't have to be a pure point; in fact a true combo guard (someone who can legitimately play both spots on both sides of the ball) would probably be best considering Parker isn't going anywhere. It's going to be extremely difficult to fill this void via free agency/trade, so the draft is the best bet.

Hoops Czar
06-23-2016, 04:12 PM
It'd be amazing if the Spurs got Denzel Valentine tbh.

Kyle Anderson 2.0

coachmac87
06-23-2016, 04:13 PM
And all that is well and good, but how does trading Ibaka affect their pitch to Durant?

OKC wants contracts past next year, they've got to set themselves up on a long term pitch plan. With the rosters and contracts as is they can't sell anything other than.."one more year".

Warriors: Green, Thompson and Curry(not going anywhere) are locked in for 3-4 years

Spurs: Kawhi, LMA are locked in for 3-4 years.

OKC one more year pitch doesn't hold water because both Warriors/Spurs can say same thing if they get Durant..

Durant wants a long term plan and I don't think he will or wants to sign the +1..neither does OKC. So they gotta move Ibaka and get players in return...question is though will those "players" be enough to sweeten their long term pitch??

I don't think it will.

BatManu20
06-23-2016, 04:13 PM
746083987077103616

wildbill2u
06-23-2016, 04:14 PM
Only thing worse than Thon is Qi.

Hey now, 7' centers that play that many minutes per game and shoot 60% on 2s and 3s and 3.2 blks per game don't grow on many family trees. It's not likely we'll get anyone at 29 that will really be of help so why not a front line (in garbage time) of Boban and Qi? Sounds like a great vaudeville team and they'd be fan favorites, playing keep-away from the midgets on the court.

cd98
06-23-2016, 04:16 PM
746060933785542656

Wait. Didn't the Thunder trade Harden b/c he wanted too much money and they wanted to save space to sign Ibaka. Presti, man, you are losing it.

BatManu20
06-23-2016, 04:18 PM
Bleacher Report's Final Mock has us taking Juan Hernangomez @ 29. This is my feeling as well.

BatManu20
06-23-2016, 04:27 PM
746076209486798852

Ron Swanson
06-23-2016, 04:30 PM
746076209486798852

He won't be ready for 4-5 years but Pop and RC have done it again!!!

coachmac87
06-23-2016, 04:32 PM
Wait. Didn't the Thunder trade Harden b/c he wanted too much money and they wanted to save space to sign Ibaka. Presti, man, you are losing it.

They already signed him to that contract..which expires next year.

This rumor has EVERYTHING to do with OKC presenting a long term sales pitch to KD

mudyez
06-23-2016, 04:34 PM
746076209486798852

It's pronounced "Deegay"! as everyone knows, they are speeking French in die Hoodefuqoswarian part of Nevrseahimplay.

Chinook
06-23-2016, 04:34 PM
Why? I said this in another thread, but there are questions about Ibaka and Biyombo's age. Being born in the Sudan or the Congo isn't like being born into a country like America where there are stringent laws about reporting population. Maker relocated to Australia when he was 5, or supposedly 5, to escape civil war. That is the first documentation of his age. He probably lived a portion of his life thinking he is younger than he actually is. It's not like he was thinking he was going to play in the NBA when he escaped war torn Sudan.

I'm sure the Reddit thread is easy enough to find, but here's the RealGM thread about it: http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1434306******=360

Dude's just a fucking liar. SUCH a disgrace.

TheGoldStandard
06-23-2016, 04:40 PM
He won't be ready for 4-5 years but Pop and RC have done it again!!!

Gets injured 2nd year in freak gardening accident. Falls in love with europe, never comes over

BatManu20
06-23-2016, 04:44 PM
746094300644114432 (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Clqno-iVYAECQrf.jpg:large)

BatManu20
06-23-2016, 04:47 PM
746096908574261248

BatManu20
06-23-2016, 04:48 PM
Means Jamal Murray's going to New Orleans at 6. Would be a huge pickup for the Hornets.

746096777351335936

NASpurs
06-23-2016, 04:58 PM
746099996055977984

BatManu20
06-23-2016, 04:59 PM
Make it happen R.C.

AFMadison
06-23-2016, 05:02 PM
Thon is getting massively overrated. He doesn't even look good in highlight vids for god's sake. People are acting like this is the 50s.
Hmmm debatable, but yea I'm starting to think he's too big of a risk. We'll see..

NASpurs
06-23-2016, 05:02 PM
Don't know if I should watch the Vertical stream of the NBA draft or watch ESPN's. I'll probably have both, side by side. :lol

In case someone doesn't know what I'm talking about: https://sports.yahoo.com/video/vertical-live-nba-draft-show-175847648.html?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma

BillMc
06-23-2016, 05:06 PM
Keep Danny. Stay the course RC.

dabom
06-23-2016, 05:06 PM
Keep Danny. Stay the course RC.

What about tony my brotha?

BatManu20
06-23-2016, 05:07 PM
:lol

746084053045084160

BillMc
06-23-2016, 05:12 PM
What about tony my brotha?

I don't think we have to worry about that, bro. For good or ill I doubt Pop/RC ever trade Parker at this point. He retires a Spur (unless he asks to leave which I doubt).

dabom
06-23-2016, 05:14 PM
I don't think we have to worry about that, bro. For good or ill I doubt Pop/RC ever trade Parker at this point. He retires a Spur (unless he asks to leave which I doubt).

Cool man. Top 3 poster. :tu

SpursforSix
06-23-2016, 05:14 PM
:pop: You niggas will be thanking me tomorrow.

BatManu20
06-23-2016, 05:30 PM
746101055381987328

NikosChelsea7
06-23-2016, 05:37 PM
746108389625892864

Captivus
06-23-2016, 05:41 PM
:pop: You have no idea whats coming!!!! GET READY!!! ITS GONNA START A LOT OF THREADS!!!

FlAVaK
06-23-2016, 05:42 PM
WOJ-spoiler-stream (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/draft/)

Captivus
06-23-2016, 05:44 PM
WOJ-spoiler-stream (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/draft/)

Nothing like seen it live!!

Im not touching that link!

Please dont spoil anything, piks or trades!

NASpurs
06-23-2016, 05:47 PM
746112188809568258

Ron Swanson
06-23-2016, 05:48 PM
Lot of teams looking to make a deal

spursistan
06-23-2016, 05:50 PM
Am I crazy to think that Danny could net us 5-10 pick? :lol

NASpurs
06-23-2016, 05:51 PM
746113191785074688

746113568223825921

spursistan
06-23-2016, 05:51 PM
746113191785074688

spurs10
06-23-2016, 05:51 PM
I don't think we have to worry about that, bro. For good or ill I doubt Pop/RC ever trade Parker at this point. He retires a Spur (unless he asks to leave which I doubt).
Rockford Files...best opening ever. Killer theme song! :bobo

Captivus
06-23-2016, 05:52 PM
are the spoilers gonna stop?? Or should i just not look at the thread?

Mr. Body
06-23-2016, 05:53 PM
746099996055977984

Hmm... Doesn't seem to be much value perceived in that range of players. I wonder if this year really is as top heavy as they think. Anyway, this would drive down the cost of those picks at least.

NASpurs
06-23-2016, 05:53 PM
are the spoilers gonna stop?? Or should i just not look at the thread?

What spoilers? The draft hasn't even started.

TheGoldStandard
06-23-2016, 05:54 PM
Marco on the move again, lol.

Hoops Czar
06-23-2016, 05:54 PM
Am I crazy to think that Danny could net us 5-10 pick? :lol

This isn't a strong draft class. Danny could probably net a 10-12 draft pick.

Steve-O-Matic
06-23-2016, 05:54 PM
Am I crazy to think that Danny could net us 5-10 pick? :lol

Yes.

BillMc
06-23-2016, 05:56 PM
Rockford Files...best opening ever. Killer theme song! :bobo

Absolutely agree my friend!:toast

szkorhetz
06-23-2016, 05:56 PM
When will it start? I am writing from Hungary, so I don't know.

Captivus
06-23-2016, 05:58 PM
What spoilers? The draft hasn't even started.

Picks trading, Belinelli, for example.

NASpurs
06-23-2016, 06:00 PM
Picks trading, Belinelli, for example.

If you think those are spoilers, you should probably avoid every thread for a while.

K...
06-23-2016, 06:00 PM
Buyout belli?

tonight...you
06-23-2016, 06:00 PM
Rockford Files...best opening ever. Killer theme song! :bobo
effing Rockford Files.
Mucho props.

You are now my Main Man until noticed otherwise.

Chinook
06-23-2016, 06:01 PM
Picks trading, Belinelli, for example.

That's not going to and shouldn't stop. But yes, I am pretty sure no thread will be safe when the picks do start except maybe the draft thread in the Think Tank. Even when we try to make a rule, it gets accidentally broken all the time.

BatManu20
06-23-2016, 06:02 PM
746113191785074688

RD2191
06-23-2016, 06:02 PM
No gawd damn spoilers please.

NASpurs
06-23-2016, 06:04 PM
746113191785074688

:lol no spoilers please

tonight...you
06-23-2016, 06:04 PM
No gawd damn spoilers please.
Piss off puss. Take it as it comes and live.
I swear you pansy ass pusses needing to be pampered to live how you want...

I bet you cry to your boss when you need something too.
Cry like a baby.

Captivus
06-23-2016, 06:05 PM
If you think those are spoilers, you should probably avoid every thread for a while.

Well...they just talk about it on NBA Channel, but yes...you could be right...maybe no thread looking...theres should be a Draft No Spoilers Thread

objective
06-23-2016, 06:06 PM
Hoping for Gary Payton II. Some others I could grudgingly live with.

Ulis, Felder, Barber, Maker, Valentine, I would have a problem with.

Captivus
06-23-2016, 06:06 PM
That's not going to and shouldn't stop. But yes, I am pretty sure no thread will be safe when the picks do start except maybe the draft thread in the Think Tank. Even when we try to make a rule, it gets accidentally broken all the time.

Yes...no thread is safe...

RD2191
06-23-2016, 06:08 PM
Piss off puss. Take it as it comes and live.
I swear you pansy ass pusses needing to be pampered to live how you want...

I bet you cry to your boss when you need something too.
Cry like a baby.

Fuck outta here faggot. Talkin shit online. LOL.

tonight...you
06-23-2016, 06:10 PM
Fuck outta here faggot. Talkin shit online. LOL.
Lol. You my boy Blu.

Now wipe them tears and come on back like a big boy.
I still love you. No hard feelings. I'm not going to beat you like last time...

RD2191
06-23-2016, 06:11 PM
Lol. You my boy Blu.

Now wipe them tears and come on back like a big boy.
I still love you. No hard feelings. I'm not going to beat you like last time...

Sure buddy. Go fuck yourself.

BillMc
06-23-2016, 06:11 PM
effing Rockford Files.
Mucho props.

You are now my Main Man until noticed otherwise.
:bobo

tonight...you
06-23-2016, 06:14 PM
Sure buddy. Go fuck yourself.
Don't need to. It's nice having a good woman to take care of that, huh?
I'm sorry, I'm touching a nerve here...

Go back to you being you. You're kind of good at that. Sometimes...

RD2191
06-23-2016, 06:16 PM
Don't need to. It's nice having a good woman to take care of that, huh?
I'm sorry, I'm touching a nerve here...

Go back to you being you. You're kind of good at that. Sometimes...
That's it. Meet me behind whataburger. You get to buy me lunch after I kick your ass.

Nathan89
06-23-2016, 06:17 PM
The spoilers are the players the team is going to pick not trades for picks.

Big Empty
06-23-2016, 06:18 PM
about 12 minutes
When will it start? I am writing from Hungary, so I don't know.

NASpurs
06-23-2016, 06:18 PM
746120013376004097

Nathan89
06-23-2016, 06:19 PM
If Marco can get the 22nd pick then Patty Mills value is damn near lottery pick.

NASpurs
06-23-2016, 06:19 PM
746120416142434305

NASpurs
06-23-2016, 06:20 PM
Russell and Boogie on the same time, sure why not. :lol

tonight...you
06-23-2016, 06:21 PM
That's it. Meet me behind whataburger. You get to buy me lunch after I kick your ass.
Damn... tell me the special so I can go ahead and order for us both.
I'm gonna Whatasize my shit so you might as well too.

I carry two flasks so we'll be all good.

rastaspur
06-23-2016, 06:21 PM
Don't need to. It's nice having a good woman to take care of that, huh?
I'm sorry, I'm touching a nerve here...

Go back to you being you. You're kind of good at that. Sometimes...

Link? Otherwise, you have no lady. Thats how this site works.

RD2191
06-23-2016, 06:23 PM
Damn... tell me the special so I can go ahead and order for us both.
I'm gonna Whatasize my shit so you might as well too.

I carry two flasks so we'll be all good.

:lol

ducks
06-23-2016, 06:24 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/draft/ voice

gambit1990
06-23-2016, 06:25 PM
:flag:

spursistan
06-23-2016, 06:26 PM
Is Danny Ainge ever going to make a move? :lol

NASpurs
06-23-2016, 06:26 PM
746122159651758080

BatManu20
06-23-2016, 06:26 PM
Is this legit? If Boston pulls this off..

746122159651758080

HarlemHeat37
06-23-2016, 06:27 PM
Is Danny Ainge ever going to make a move? :lol

:lol

Seems like an attention whore, tbh..

ismael-robert
06-23-2016, 06:28 PM
Anyone kno where to stream draft

Mugen
06-23-2016, 06:28 PM
NBA Draft is great tbh.

szkorhetz
06-23-2016, 06:28 PM
Anyone kno where to stream draft
http://ifirstrow.eu/watch/444714/4/watch--nba-the-nba-draft-2016.html

rastaspur
06-23-2016, 06:29 PM
Is this legit? If Boston pulls this off..

746122159651758080

Ainge is going to snag butler. If he can unload marcus smart then the pieces are going to start fitting together nicely.

objective
06-23-2016, 06:31 PM
Can't get any Audio from the Yahoo broadcast

Nathan89
06-23-2016, 06:31 PM
What teams need a backup pg from 15-23 range?

ducks
06-23-2016, 06:32 PM
butler is for sure

szkorhetz
06-23-2016, 06:32 PM
What teams need a backup pg from 15-23 range?
Detroit? (Would be a perfect fit for Mills and the SVG offense)

tonight...you
06-23-2016, 06:32 PM
Link? Otherwise, you have no lady. Thats how this site works.
Lol... not on this site. No way, I have nothing to prove to you punks, but I feel you.

Thank goodness I don't where white pants...

Ron Swanson
06-23-2016, 06:33 PM
Let's do this

ducks
06-23-2016, 06:33 PM
Can't get any Audio from the Yahoo broadcast

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/draft/

Silver&Black
06-23-2016, 06:33 PM
There he is. The real MVP of the Finals.....Commissioner Silver.

My nigga.

BillMc
06-23-2016, 06:33 PM
http://ifirstrow.eu/watch/444714/4/watch--nba-the-nba-draft-2016.html

Thanks.:bobo

TheGreatYacht
06-23-2016, 06:35 PM
You know Pinhead wants Cavs vs Warriors III.

If he's gonna make it happen, does it really matter what we do?

rastaspur
06-23-2016, 06:39 PM
Lol... not on this site. No way, I have nothing to prove to you punks, but I feel you.

Thank goodness I don't where white pants...

Haha.

Just fuckin with ya.

I believe you. No need to prove anything.

Mr. Body
06-23-2016, 06:39 PM
Ben Simmons. Couldn't even get his team into the NCAA Tournament.

HarlemHeat37
06-23-2016, 06:40 PM
Has Wilbon watched any of these players? He's just dropping generic, canned analysis, doesn't seem like he has watched anybody play:lol

tonight...you
06-23-2016, 06:41 PM
Haha.

Just fuckin with ya.

I believe you. No need to prove anything.

Thank you sir. Now let's eff up this Draft night!
I got the Single Malt Scotch flowing, some good, imported beer...

Let's do this damn thing!

tonight...you
06-23-2016, 06:42 PM
Has Wilbon watched any of these players? He's just dropping generic, canned analysis, doesn't seem like he has watched anybody play:lol
Has Wilbon worked a real day in his life in the past 15 years?

Let me answer that for you:
No.

rastaspur
06-23-2016, 06:42 PM
Wilbon is a likeable guy and all but just cant pull off coming across as knowledgeable about basketball. Bet he got picked on in high school and stuffed into lockers.

Silver&Black
06-23-2016, 06:43 PM
Please God....let the Lakers fuck this up

BatManu20
06-23-2016, 06:43 PM
Draft doesn't start till Boston's on the clock.

ace3g
06-23-2016, 06:43 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/719022578980020228/Mmz1g64f_bigger.jpg NBA on ESPN Verified account ‏@ESPNNBA (https://twitter.com/ESPNNBA)

Ben Simmons has quite the ceiling according to Chad Ford. http://es.pn/28R2NoN (https://t.co/yaj5rBceYA)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClrF26zWMAAIN8_.jpg

tonight...you
06-23-2016, 06:43 PM
Wilbon is a likeable guy and all but just cant pull off coming across as knowledgeable about basketball. Bet he got picked on in high school and stuffed into lockers.
And his asthmatic Jew sidekick... Real jock talking about jock stuff going on there.

baseline bum
06-23-2016, 06:44 PM
Damn did the NBA tell Woj to stop posting the draft picks before they're made? :lol

BillMc
06-23-2016, 06:44 PM
Please God....let the Lakers fuck this up

+1

Mr. Body
06-23-2016, 06:44 PM
Please God....let the Lakers fuck this up

Well, they got a narcoleptic swingman. He'll be a good side guy but I don't think a star.