Mountaintop Monastery of Dejounte Murray

[sasaint]

Out of everything else with Dijon, and I like him a lot, his ballhandling right now is the most damnning. He had 9 TO games a few 7 TO games and a ton of 4 to 5 TO games in college. I'll find the article and share it later, but aside from everything else he still needs to improve on, the loose handle and the TO IMO is what will push him to the dleague.

Even in SL he lost the handle way too many times with very low ball pressure. He's simply too unreliable to play as a PG right now. I thought maybe playing him off the ball to start his career would be better, but he's a poor of the ball player bc he can't shoot and he's not a cutter, doesn't play like a wing.

He has a lot to work on. I see him in the dleague bc if the Spurs want him to develop his handle and decision making he needs to play with the ball as a playmaker and he won't get sufficient opportunities to do that in the team. And this is coming from someone who likes him.

I expect to see him the most his second season, unless there are injuries, same as other first round picks the team has had lately. Though, the caveat is that it's really up to him. There's no telling how quickly guys this young are still learning and he could learn so fast that by the end of this season he's earned trust from coach. It also depends how many blowout and rest games there are early and how he looks in those.

I watched him in SL; I know about the TO issue. In order for Dijon to accept force-feeding he has to clean that up. But for the timing of things as I see them for this team over the next few seasons, I would try the same force-feeding approach as Pop used with Tony. I don't want to sacrifice games to do it, but I don't think we will ring this season with Tony. I think it is the perfect season to be daring. I want to have some strong young players around Kawhi and be a serious contender when his contract expires. There will be no lack of poachers.

[SAGirl]

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Valid. But do you mean "ballhandling" by his dribbling skills and his ability to go where he wants to go, or by his decision making with his passing?
I find the two called the same, but honestly, two different things.
Ballhandling = the high loose dribble. Looses the ball at times with little pressure. With pressure = potential TO machine.
Decision making= still takes many bad shots = not shots he can make at a good enough rate. I think when he's told to distribute he can, that's why I think he has talent but still settles for too many bad shots for himself throwing bad floaters at the rim when there are others open around him. Hid passing is off the mark at times too but that can frankly be chemistry and timing with players he didn't know in SL.

His midrange shot is terrible too and its sad right now bc he's so quick he can get separation for his shots he just can't make them. I like his aggressiveness but considering he can't shoot he probably needs to look to pass more at least while he fixes his issues.

[SAGirl]

I watched him in SL; I know about the TO issue. In order for Dijon to accept force-feeding he has to clean that up. But for the timing of things as I see them for this team over the next few seasons, I would try the same force-feeding approach as Pop used with Tony. I don't want to sacrifice games to do it, but I don't think we will ring this season with Tony. I think it is the perfect season to be daring. I want to have some strong young players around Kawhi and be a serious contender when his contract expires. There will be no lack of poachers.
I agree but I don't think Dijon is ready TBH. Like you I don't care about winning 67 games again if the team doesn't spend time to develop the young talents it has, but sometimes you can push a young player so far beyond his current capabilities that he hits a wall or gets broken for the season. If you were talking about a second or third year player, those guys are overdue for chances but rookies, even the most talented in the draft are in for a rude awakening and will struggle, sometimes badly.

He needs to tighten his handle to begin with. That's the most basic of skills and its not strong enough right now. It will break all his confidence if he's thrown into the fire b4 he's ready and starts TO at a high rate and he will bc he did it against lesser competition. Even guys like Schrooder, Reggie Jackson, etc, recent starting PG in the league started from the bench. Maybe the answer is to get him bench minutes to start his career while he improves. POP will have to evaluate not just Mills, but Simmons too and decide somewhere midseason where he's going with the youngest players bc he has to keep an eye out for the team's future.

Let's just say the first guy Dijon has to compete with is Simmons, then Mills.

[tonight...you]

Ballhandling = the high loose dribble. Looses the ball at times with little pressure. With pressure = potential TO machine.
Decision making= still takes many bad shots = not shots he can make at a good enough rate. I think when he's told to distribute he can, that's why I think he has talent but still settles for too many bad shots for himself throwing bad floaters at the rim when there are others open around him. Hid passing is off the mark at times too but that can frankly be chemistry and timing with players he didn't know in SL.

His midrange shot is terrible too and its sad right now bc he's so quick he can get separation for his shots he just can't make them. I like his aggressiveness but considering he can't shoot he probably needs to look to pass more at least while he fixes his issues.
Very succinct. Thank you. But the midrange being sad right now- the kid's 19. I believe he has naturally elite skills and everything else simply (I said simply, lol) needs to be cultivated.

His ability to dribble to the hoop is already at an elite level.

He has advantages over even a Bertans, or a Garino with his natural talent.
Those guys may go on to have a better career, but he has the talent to make them both be afterthoughts in the grand scheme of things.

[SAGirl]

Very succinct. Thank you. But the midrange being sad right now- the kid's 19. I believe he has naturally elite skills and everything else simply (I said simply, lol) needs to be cultivated.

His ability to dribble to the hoop is already at an elite level.

He has advantages over even a Bertans, or a Garino with his natural talent.
Those guys may go on to have a better career, but he has the talent to make them both be afterthoughts in the grand scheme of things.
He can get to the hoop but can't finish. He can get separation for a midrange shot easily but can't shoot, etc. If he did these things well he would have been a lottery pick. He wasn't bc he's got a lot to work on.

That's why I think he needs to develop. That's very different from saying he sucks, has no talent or can't play. He has talent but he also needs to develop and as I said b4 there's no telling how quickly guys his age can improve but at the very least, his ballhandling for a main guard needs to get better. If he's getting easily stripped in practices he will be dleague bound.

[tonight...you]

He can get to the hoop but can't finish. He can get separation for a midrange shot easily but can't shoot, etc. If he did these things well he would have been a lottery pick. He wasn't bc he's got a lot to work on.

That's why I think he needs to develop. That's very different from saying he sucks, has no talent or can't play. He has talent but he also needs to develop and as I said b4 there's no telling how quickly guys his age can improve but at the very least, his ballhandling for a main guard needs to get better. If he's getting easily stripped in practices he will be dleague bound.
:toast

[tholdren]

Out of everything else with Dijon, and I like him a lot, his ballhandling right now is the most damnning. He had 9 TO games a few 7 TO games and a ton of 4 to 5 TO games in college. I'll find the article and share it later, but aside from everything else he still needs to improve on, the loose handle and the TO IMO is what will push him to the dleague.

Even in SL he lost the handle way too many times with very low ball pressure. He's simply too unreliable to play as a PG right now. I thought maybe playing him off the ball to start his career would be better, but he's a poor of the ball player bc he can't shoot and he's not a cutter, doesn't play like a wing.

He has a lot to work on. I see him in the dleague bc if the Spurs want him to develop his handle and decision making he needs to play with the ball as a playmaker and he won't get sufficient opportunities to do that in the team. And this is coming from someone who likes him.

I expect to see him the most his second season, unless there are injuries, same as other first round picks the team has had lately. Though, the caveat is that it's really up to him. There's no telling how quickly guys this young are still learning and he could learn so fast that by the end of this season he's earned trust from coach. It also depends how many blowout and rest games there are early and how he looks in those.
Only time Ive agreed with you. He is not a PG - sad that he has been allowed to play that. Should play him as a SG. Irony that people on ST blast simmons for the TOs but someone who is supposed to handle the ball is not held to any standard, but he's 19... lol. Love the attacking the basket mentality, skill set as a pro is indicative of the overall shittiness of the league. Hope he does well.

[.G.]

westbrook 2.0

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Let's see Murray's rap preferences.

[tholdren]

westbrook 2.0
Westbrook can pass the ball.

[.G.]

Westbrook can pass the ball.

He sho can....he sho can.

[rastaspur]

https://bbs.boingboing.net/uploads/default/original/3X/e/f/ef962d61ddd02b55cd4ee027db5fdba52f0876ae.jpg

:lol that picture and caption are funny

[spurtech09]

Cleveland number 20 is short as heck.....

[cutewizard]

http://www.gospelherald.com/articles/65685/20160804/nba-rumors-san-antonio-spurs-hint-kyrie-irving-trade-talks.htm

[cutewizard]

Sky is the limit if this player works hard, listens to the coaching staff, absorbs from the other players, etc etc

[cutewizard]

Put in the work ethic and he could be a helluva player in the NBA

HE HAS KAWHI AS ROLE MODEL after all

[wildbill2u]

Ballhandling = the high loose dribble. Looses the ball at times with little pressure. With pressure = potential TO machine.
Decision making= still takes many bad shots = not shots he can make at a good enough rate. I think when he's told to distribute he can, that's why I think he has talent but still settles for too many bad shots for himself throwing bad floaters at the rim when there are others open around him. Hid passing is off the mark at times too but that can frankly be chemistry and timing with players he didn't know in SL.

His midrange shot is terrible too and its sad right now bc he's so quick he can get separation for his shots he just can't make them. I like his aggressiveness but considering he can't shoot he probably needs to look to pass more at least while he fixes his issues.

The high dribble is something I noticed too. It is a invitation to a steal or turnover. He can't do that in the NBA. Defensive guards must be looking at that and salivating. The problem is that it is probably going to be hard to fix since you begin learning your handling skills as a child and they become instinctive. How he got even this far with that trait is amazing. Anyone ever heard of a handle coach.???

His shooting form on jumpers is weird. It looks like he takes off on one foot so hard that his body sort of rotates to the left as he goes up and comes down with his left foot pointed away from the basket. I think it also affects the rotation of the ball. It should be something that Chip can fix. He just has to learn to go forward and follow through with his shot. But it is really a strange motion.

All that set aside, he looks like he has a lot of other skills--and a work ethic-- that will make him a regular in the rotation at some point. Defense, using quickness, lateral footwork and lots of effort is one skill that can easily earn a rookie some minutes.

[SAGirl]

The high dribble is something I noticed too. It is a invitation to a steal or turnover. He can't do that in the NBA. Defensive guards must be looking at that and salivating. The problem is that it is probably going to be hard to fix since you begin learning your handling skills as a child and they become instinctive. How he got even this far with that trait is amazing. Anyone ever heard of a handle coach.???

His shooting form on jumpers is weird. It looks like he takes off on one foot so hard that his body sort of rotates to the left as he goes up and comes down with his left foot pointed away from the basket. I think it also affects the rotation of the ball. It should be something that Chip can fix. He just has to learn to go forward and follow through with his shot. But it is really a strange motion.

All that set aside, he looks like he has a lot of other skills--and a work ethic-- that will make him a regular in the rotation at some point. Defense, using quickness, lateral footwork and lots of effort is one skill that can easily earn a rookie some minutes.
Well to answer your question, he was not a highly touted recruit coming into college, we can start there. He was rather low on rivals.com around the 49sh mark. He wasn't a winning player in college either and it was due to all of the factors pointed here, the huge TO rates, the bad decision making, taking bad shots, and bad defense.

I think his college coach had to deal with some limitations in him because he's not a shooter and had to play him as an on the ball guard.

I don't know what to tell you but he's still a young guy, so I am choosing to be optimistic. If his handle is not good enough ever to be a main guard then he needs to be SG and play off the ball, for which he needs to shoot a lot better. At least he has size, length and athleticism to still be an NBA player even if he's not a PG, but that will leave some fans disappointed.

I look forward to seeing him improve. He does seem like a hard working coachable player and the Spurs more than once mentioned that they are excited about the person and him being coachable, but he's definitely a project and won't be able to be the main guard until his handle gets better. I think it might be possible for it to improve. Wasn't Kawhi a poor ballhandler coming into the league around the same age? It's possible, but it could take years, certainly not the short schedule that fans want to see Dijon on.

[All Mighty Janitor]

repost

[Chinook]

Here is a break down of our rook"s play in summer league by Coach Daniel. Those of us that come to worship at this great institution know most of these things, but it good to have these kinds of video's for future reference.
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKgIlMUnPiM)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKgIlMUnPiM

Posted it on the previous page of this thread.

[All Mighty Janitor]

Posted it on the previous page of this thread.
Whoops. I looked but I guess I didn't go back far enough.

[wildbill2u]

Well to answer your question, he was not a highly touted recruit coming into college, we can start there. He was rather low on rivals.com around the 49sh mark. He wasn't a winning player in college either and it was due to all of the factors pointed here, the huge TO rates, the bad decision making, taking bad shots, and bad defense.

I think his college coach had to deal with some limitations in him because he's not a shooter and had to play him as an on the ball guard.

I don't know what to tell you but he's still a young guy, so I am choosing to be optimistic. If his handle is not good enough ever to be a main guard then he needs to be SG and play off the ball, for which he needs to shoot a lot better. At least he has size, length and athleticism to still be an NBA player even if he's not a PG, but that will leave some fans disappointed.

I look forward to seeing him improve. He does seem like a hard working coachable player and the Spurs more than once mentioned that they are excited about the person and him being coachable, but he's definitely a project and won't be able to be the main guard until his handle gets better. I think it might be possible for it to improve. Wasn't Kawhi a poor ballhandler coming into the league around the same age? It's possible, but it could take years, certainly not the short schedule that fans want to see Dijon on.

I'd like to see him force fed at Austin if they continue to want him to play PG. He needs the repetitions of playing in lots of games at that position along with some intensive basic coaching. He's probably not going to get a lot of minutes at PG with the regular players at this stage in his career. On the other hand, If they decide to move him to SG, the need to send him to Austin is less because he can learn to shoot in practice in SA and won't have the pressure of being responsible for the offense like he would at PG. They seem to have made great strides with Kyle as a shooter since he came in and Chip can do it with Murray hopefully.

Tons of potential with this kid. He just needs some polish and reps in games.

[sexinthatsx]

Looking at Youtube clips of him, and while he's really athletic and has some good passing in, he's a chucker. I hope he doesn't turn into Tony Parker lite.

[hooperflash]

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[tholdren]

765669467485573120
I just had a triple double in my rec league last week too. You want the youtube clip?

[Russ]

I just had a triple double in my rec league last week too. You want the youtube clip?

Absolutely! (Right after you're taken in the first round of the NBA draft.) :)

[hooperflash]

He cleared so much area in so little time.

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[cutewizard]

:bobo

[BillMc]

He cleared so much area in so little time.

768696127981883392
:toast That's what happens when you have some fat dude guard a serious NBA prospect. :lol

[Obstructed_View]

Looking at Youtube clips of him, and while he's really athletic and has some good passing in, he's a chucker. I hope he doesn't turn into Tony Parker lite.

Yeah, having a guy that leads guards in field goal percentage with almost no turnovers would be a nightmare.

[Maddog]

:toast That's what happens when you have some fat dude guard a serious NBA prospect. :lol

I would at least got an elbow in...
:lol

[dabom]

:toast That's what happens when you have some fat dude guard a serious NBA prospect. :lol

Parker ain't guarding him Bill...

[BillMc]

Parker ain't guarding him Bill...

That's true. He wasn't being guarded by Tony Parker on that play.

[sexinthatsx]

Yeah, having a guy that leads guards in field goal percentage with almost no turnovers would be a nightmare.

:stirpot: :stirpot: :stirpot: But seriously I hope he won't take some ill-advised shots.

[Obstructed_View]

:stirpot: :stirpot: :stirpot: But seriously I hope he won't take some ill-advised shots.

I'm sure we will find something to complain about.

[SAGirl]

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[Snaq O'Meal]

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Interesting results from previous years:

2014-15 – T-1st: Ricky Ledo, Dallas, Erik Murphy, Chicago, Nerlens Noel, Philadelphia & Kelly Olynyk, Boston (8.6 percent)
2013-14 – Kyle Anderson, SPURS (11.1 percent)
2012-13 – T-1st: Draymond Green, Golden State, Perry Jones, Oklahoma City, Andrew Nicholson, Orlando & Tony Wroten, Memphis (8.8 percent)
2010-11 – Lance Stephenson, Indiana (17.9 percent)
2009-10 – DeJuan Blair, SPURS (15.6 percent)
2007-08 – Nick Young, Washington (15.8 percent)

Kyle is on that list too.

Exciting times ahead in SA.

[SAGirl]

Interesting results from previous years:

2014-15 – T-1st: Ricky Ledo, Dallas, Erik Murphy, Chicago, Nerlens Noel, Philadelphia & Kelly Olynyk, Boston (8.6 percent)
2013-14 – Kyle Anderson, SPURS (11.1 percent)
2012-13 – T-1st: Draymond Green, Golden State, Perry Jones, Oklahoma City, Andrew Nicholson, Orlando & Tony Wroten, Memphis (8.8 percent)
2010-11 – Lance Stephenson, Indiana (17.9 percent)
2009-10 – DeJuan Blair, SPURS (15.6 percent)
2007-08 – Nick Young, Washington (15.8 percent)

Kyle is on that list too.

Exciting times ahead in SA.
In 2012-13 Draymond Green!!!!
This is by other players so they know who they are competing against that was being overlooked. Very different from a fan or media poll. Basically the players choice award. Go Spurs. :flag:

[Mr. Body]

Interesting results from previous years:

2014-15 – T-1st: Ricky Ledo, Dallas, Erik Murphy, Chicago, Nerlens Noel, Philadelphia & Kelly Olynyk, Boston (8.6 percent)
2013-14 – Kyle Anderson, SPURS (11.1 percent)
2012-13 – T-1st: Draymond Green, Golden State, Perry Jones, Oklahoma City, Andrew Nicholson, Orlando & Tony Wroten, Memphis (8.8 percent)
2010-11 – Lance Stephenson, Indiana (17.9 percent)
2009-10 – DeJuan Blair, SPURS (15.6 percent)
2007-08 – Nick Young, Washington (15.8 percent)

Kyle is on that list too.

Exciting times ahead in SA.

Some nice players in there. I wouldn't expect other rookies to generally be that aware.

[venitian navigator]

is it possible that Murray was the one we were targeting when we tried to buy up in the draft? we were rumored to try to buy a top ten pick...

[ceperez]

In 2012-13 Draymond Green!!!!
This is by other players so they know who they are competing against that was being overlooked. Very different from a fan or media poll. Basically the players choice award. Go Spurs. :flag:

I think the players know instinctively who has skills more advanced than they do. They of course can't evaluate other intangibles like work ethic and ability to improve. So Blair here was ready for the NBA but eventually declined. Perry Jones got a lot of hype but flamed out of the league too.

[Chinook]

Blair was definitely a steal, though. Someone like Drom John could do a better job than I can at proving it, but his first three years are better than almost anyone else's in that class.

[Drom John]

Blair was 7th in WS in the first three years out of the 2009 draft.
1) Harden (3rd pick)
2) Griffin (1st, #2 without playing the first year)
3) Lawson (18th)
4) Gibson (26th)
5) Jennings (10th)
6) Curry (7th)
7) Blair (37th)

Blair has dropped to 16th. Danny Green is now 10th, Patty Mills 24th, Ayres 30th, Daye 35th, De Colo 41st.

[Chinook]

Blair was 7th in WS in the first three years out of the 2009 draft.
1) Harden (3rd pick)
2) Griffin (1st, #2 without playing the first year)
3) Lawson (18th)
4) Gibson (26th)
5) Jennings (10th)
6) Curry (7th)
7) Blair (37th)

Blair has dropped to 16th. Danny Green is now 10th, Patty Mills 24th, Ayres 30th, Daye 35th, De Colo 41st.

And there you go. For the first three seasons, Blair was about 30 spots better than where he was drafted. That's amazing. Sure his knees gave out, but even so, a team picking him in the lottery would have gotten a decent enough deal.

[gambit1990]

He cleared so much area in so little time.

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big deal, we've seen MVParker do that plenty of times.

[gambit1990]

Interesting results from previous years:

2014-15 – T-1st: Ricky Ledo, Dallas, Erik Murphy, Chicago, Nerlens Noel, Philadelphia & Kelly Olynyk, Boston (8.6 percent)
2013-14 – Kyle Anderson, SPURS (11.1 percent)
2012-13 – T-1st: Draymond Green, Golden State, Perry Jones, Oklahoma City, Andrew Nicholson, Orlando & Tony Wroten, Memphis (8.8 percent)
2010-11 – Lance Stephenson, Indiana (17.9 percent)
2009-10 – DeJuan Blair, SPURS (15.6 percent)
2007-08 – Nick Young, Washington (15.8 percent)

Kyle is on that list too.

Exciting times ahead in SA.
so hopefully he'll be as good as nick young :lol those results are pretty meaningless imo.

[SAGirl]

is it possible that Murray was the one we were targeting when we tried to buy up in the draft? we were rumored to try to buy a top ten pick...
RC mentioned he was one of several possible guys they wanted to move up for. Spurs were lucky he fell bc Boston picked so many stashes and there are always teams that blow their picks with bad reaches and gambles. Some guys fell past Dijon too that could have easily gone in the 1st round as well.

[SAGirl]

And there you go. For the first three seasons, Blair was about 30 spots better than where he was drafted. That's amazing. Sure his knees gave out, but even so, a team picking him in the lottery would have gotten a decent enough deal.
I remember something similar being argued for Denzel Valentine. His knee condition will likely shorten his career but bc he's very skilled already and older he is likely to produce value for the team that drafted him right away. Staying in the league and durability past that rookie deal is going to be the issue for him though.

On a sidenote: one player I was looking forward to seeing develop was Jordan Adams from the 2014 draft. He had a high BBIQ, made defensive plays just bc he anticipated passes, could shoot, post up, a very, very skilled player. Memphis didn't play him his rook season, he was dleague bound. He had great summer leagues in Orlando git injured on one knee and his career might be kaput. He's had 3 surgeries last season, tries to rehab to play and experiences pain. The last surgery was a kind of cartilage graft that is considered experimental. His 4th year option is unlikely to be picked up and he's lucky if he's not waived by Memphis if his knee doesn't recover. Knee injuries are the real deal.

May all Spurs current youngsters be spared from that. LJC and Bertans have their injury history. I hope their bodies hold up. :tu

[peacemaker885]

Kid has balls and swag - both needed to usurp TP. Don't get me wrong, I love TP but his time is ending and someone needs to show him that fact, whose name is not Pop. Patty's too nice and we all know how goody our previous point guards were starting with George Hill.

[sasaint]

Kid has balls and swag - both needed to usurp TP. Don't get me wrong, I love TP but his time is ending and someone needs to show him that fact, whose name is not Pop. Patty's too nice and we all know how goody our previous point guards were starting with George Hill.

Regardless of Hill's skills or personality/character, he was not going to overtake Tony at that stage of Tony's career. Tony was still one of the fastest players in the league during Hill's tenure in SA.

I think Dijon will find extra motivation in the knowledge that he is the heir apparent.

[skulls138]

Tonys our PG this season, get used to it. Maybe try....rooting for him?

[dabom]

Tonys our PG this season, get used to it. Maybe try....rooting for him?

Murray is a Spur. Try rooting for him?

[Dex]

Really excited to see what this guy can do. Obviously needs some work on the fundamentals, namely shooting and defense...but we have the best shooting coach in the league and a solid defensive system. When Kawhi came in, nobody thought he could shoot either...and he's become a legitimate threat from the both midrange and the perimeter.

For a 29th pick, it's pretty much a no-lose situation. If he develops into a passable player, he will be a great pick. If he doesn't, he'll join a long list of 29th picks who didn't make it in the league, so no big deal.

If he can be our next starting point guard within 2 seasons, then the Spurs will once again be left looking like geniuses.

[gambit1990]

start him and let's roll with the punches.

i will never understand the posters here who think we won't win it all with parker starting... but are still against him not starting :lol

[dabom]

start him and let's roll with the punches.

i will never understand the posters here who think we won't win it all with parker starting... but are still against him not starting :lol

We not gonna win with Porker getting more than 22mins a game. I say start this guy. We're just gonna get a watered down tony come playoffs.

[gambit1990]

Tonys our PG this season, get used to it. Maybe try....rooting for him?
especially rooting for him to not sleep another teammate's wife.

i'm sure if thegreatcunt or SASdynasty! had a significant other then they'd let tp sleep with him.

[TheDoctor]

big deal, we've seen MVParker do that plenty of times.

Yeah, with the food.

[still.focused]

I think its a no brainer to give Murray & Mills the majority of minutes
Obviously hes not a starter but I also believe the Spurs can overccome any of his flaws while he learns
Allow Tony to rest as much as possible so we have him for the POs and let Patty try to ball out like he did in Rio
Obviously Parkers not goin anywhere but if we only gonna get half a season worth of production outta him Ill take the latter half
Murray might not cut it but its better to find out now instead of after Patty get the undeniable offers or Parker hangs em up
Then again, I dont run an NBA squad

[Hoops Czar]

start him and let's roll with the punches.

i will never understand the posters here who think we won't win it all with parker starting... but are still against him not starting :lol

Really not that hard when you look at the alternatives.

[rastaspur]

Parker will get at least 25 minutes a night. Deal with it or don't follow.

This kid isnt ready for major minutes this year. End of story.

[gambit1990]

Really not that hard when you look at the alternatives.
i vote for the alternatives. have for a long time now. you'll come around eventually.

[K...]

i vote for the alternatives. have for a long time now. you'll come around eventually.

Noted, I'll forward your analysis to pop. You've said this what 20 times before?

[gambit1990]

Noted, I'll forward your analysis to pop. You've said this what 20 times before?
i wasn't talking to you, i was replying to the poster who quoted me.

tbh, you're the most annoying poster here. you manage to be even more annoying than thegreatcunt.

[SAGirl]

Parker will get at least 25 minutes a night. Deal with it or don't follow.

This kid isnt ready for major minutes this year. End of story.
I bet it is precisely bc of this reason that they have 3: count them you all! 3 different guards coming in to compete for the 15th spot (and just Garino for a wing who his agent has already publicly said is likely headed to the dleague.)

[BillMc]

Tonys our PG this season, get used to it. Maybe try....rooting for him?


Murray is a Spur. Try rooting for him?

I root for both of them. They're Spurs!

[SAGirl]

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They give me chocolate shakes,” Murray said. “I don’t like the other flavors, but I like the chocolate ones.”
The purpose of the new diet is not for Murray to lose weight.

Rather, the Spurs would like the newly turned 20-year-old to put some more meat on his 6-foot-5, 175-pound frame.
“I’m not going to get ‘big’ big,” Murray said. “Just getting stronger, so I can take hits and finish.


the Spurs believe it is important for Murray to eat.
The team provides healthy meals for breakfast and lunch at the practice facility. An uncle has moved with Murray from Seattle to help cook dinners.
“My uncle is like a chef,” Murray said. “He knows what he’s doing.”
Murray he admits that he has become acquainted with the local Whataburger chain, but only for an occasional treat.
Then there are the chocolate shakes, which Murray guzzles after workouts.
“I’m just doing what they say to do,” Murray said.
Called finishing through contact. Possibly one of the reasons he's missing so much at the rim is that he's getting bounced around....

[apalisoc_9]

782737267299196929

Called finishing through contact. Possibly one of the reasons he's missing so much at the rim is that he's getting bounced around....

It's funny how sometimes you think you eat enough food but if
if you actually keep track..you find that many times, you don't eat enough calories to maintai weight or Gain weight.

The difference between super fat people and skinny people in terms of daily intake seems very insignificant if you do your counting on a day to day basis or even weekley..

But it adds up. An extra 100 calorie a day seems very insignificant but after a year ots the difference of 10+lbs..

Most fat obese san antonian always say..but I eat right..i have super slow metabolism :cry

Fatasses :lmao

[dabom]

It's funny how sometimes you think you eat enough food but if
if you actually keep track..you find that many times, you don't eat enough calories to maintai weight or Gain weight.

The difference between super fat people and skinny people in terms of daily intake seems very insignificant if you do your counting on a day to day basis or even weekley..

But it adds up. An extra 100 calorie a day seems very insignificant but after a year ots the difference of 10+lbs..

Most fat obese san antonian always say..but I eat right..i have super slow metabolism :cry

Fatasses :lmao

I don't how you got to that conclusion. :lol

[TheDoctor]

782737267299196929

Called finishing through contact...

No you didn't.





Dijon's inability to finish at the rim could very well be a matter of strength and inexperience.

We'll see.


I saw him settle for too many bad floaters. Just doesn't have good touch on those...

[dabom]

No you didn't.

:lol

[SAGirl]

No you didn't.
Sadly I think he did both things. Just getting stronger/gain weight is not the only thing he need to work at.... It's not exclusive of having to work on his choice of shots as well as shooting.

[apalisoc_9]

Murray will naturally gain weight as he grows older...I never really understood the need to bulk in sport sepcially when you're young..its just going to happen naturally.

Kawhi was significantly skinnier in his roomie year even though they still list him the same weight..player just grow up.

[BD24]

Murray will naturally gain weight as he grows older...I never really understood the need to bulk in sport sepcially when you're young..its just going to happen naturally.

Kawhi was significantly skinnier in his rookie year even though they still list him the same weight..player just grow up.
He also hit the weight room as well...you don't "naturally" put on muscle like Kawhi did without being in the weight room. It isn't something that happens by just growing up. Wouldn't expect a Canadian pussy like yourself to understand that though.

[Mr. Body]

Murray will naturally gain weight as he grows older...I never really understood the need to bulk in sport sepcially when you're young..its just going to happen naturally.

Kawhi was significantly skinnier in his roomie year even though they still list him the same weight..player just grow up.

How the fuck do you think players 'naturally' gain bulk as they play? Do you think it just happens? Fuck, you retard, this is how it happens.

[ceperez]

Dejounte Murray is looking more and more like the steal of the draft.

The guy has natural BB instincts and he's got a frame that looks like he can add on a lot more muscle. He's really young now, but he's going to get better.

[SAGirl]

Dejounte Murray is looking more and more like the steal of the draft.

The guy has natural BB instincts and he's got a frame that looks like he can add on a lot more muscle. He's really young now, but he's going to get better.
Could look like the real steal with coaching for sure. :flag:
He might end up getting J.Simms minutes if the latter one doesn't improve his game.

[BillMc]

Dejounte Murray is looking more and more like the steal of the draft.

The guy has natural BB instincts and he's got a frame that looks like he can add on a lot more muscle. He's really young now, but he's going to get better.
:toast

[Hoops Czar]

782737267299196929

Called finishing through contact. Possibly one of the reasons he's missing so much at the rim is that he's getting bounced around....

Why couldn't he just take a combination of Viatropin and Viarexin and get fit in approximately 31 days. The Spurs need him now.

[cd98]

782737267299196929

Called finishing through contact. Possibly one of the reasons he's missing so much at the rim is that he's getting bounced around....

He needs to put on weight? Boy did he get drafted to the right city.

[TheDoctor]

He needs to put on weight? Boy did he get drafted to the right city.

...and the right teammate.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_memnxrjSVk1ruaz3c.jpg

[Dingle Barry]

Murray will naturally gain weight as he grows older...I never really understood the need to bulk in sport sepcially when you're young..its just going to happen naturally.

Kawhi was significantly skinnier in his roomie year even though they still list him the same weight..player just grow up.

These guys burn insane amounts of calories playing an NBA season. Your post is retarded.

[cutewizard]

How did Murray do in the preseason games for those who watched??

did he play well?

:claw

[gambit1990]

How did Murray do in the preseason games for those who watched??

did he play well?

:claw
murray had 2 assists and 1 turnover. same as parker. except parker played 19 minutes and murray played 5.

[SAGirl]

How did Murray do in the preseason games for those who watched??

did he play well?

:claw
He's very talented but has a habit if forcing bad contested shots and he does not have the skill to be finishing those difficult shots at this time in his career. He's gotten benched for playing selfishly, which honestly with his youth and role in the pecking order, if he can't learn that now, he won't learn it ever. POP giving him the tough coaching.

[CGD]

Meh, this is essentially his red shirt year. He just needs to show growth. He'll be really good for us in year 3, right in time for Tony to move on or take a back up role.

[DPG21920]

murray had 2 assists and 1 turnover. same as parker. except parker played 19 minutes and murray played 5.

Your pat yourself on the back even for no reason style of posting is already annoying me and it's the pre-season :lol

[TrainOfThought5]

Meh, this is essentially his red shirt year. He just needs to show growth. He'll be really good for us in year 3, right in time for Tony to move on or take a back up role.

He needs to be ready to replace Parker next year. Aldridge's prime wont last too much longer.

[sasaint]

He needs to be ready to replace Parker next year. Aldridge's prime wont last too much longer.

To me, the bigger issue is how Kawhi sees the Spurs' trajectory. If the team appears to be stagnating will Kawhi bolt when his current contract ends?

[TrainOfThought5]

To me, the bigger issue is how Kawhi sees the Spurs' trajectory. If the team appears to be stagnating will Kawhi bolt when his current contract ends?

The spurs have have already built a team good enough to get him Finals MVP without him having his current skillset. They got LMA, the top free agent prize that year. And theyre drafting and really well and bringing in quality overseas assets (Murray, Bertans, etc.). No way he can fault them like Lebron did when he left Cleveland.

[sasaint]

The spurs have have already built a team good enough to get him Finals MVP without him having his current skillset. They got LMA, the top free agent prize that year. And theyre drafting and really well and bringing in quality overseas assets (Murray, Bertans, etc.). No way he can fault them like Lebron did when he left Cleveland.

I think you are more certain than I about those overseas assets - not to mention Kyle. I believe the jury is still out. This season will go a long way toward telling us how much quality the Spurs have - and in determining the team's trajectory.

[LongtimeSpursFan]

Your pat yourself on the back even for no reason style of posting is already annoying me and it's the pre-season :lol
:toast

[gambit1990]

Your pat yourself on the back even for no reason style of posting is already annoying me and it's the pre-season :lol
idc what you have to say. try talking basketball.

[TheGreatYacht]

idc what you have to say. try talking basketball.
You're the shittiest poster on the board, and that's saying something when cutewizard posts as well

[DPG21920]

idc what you have to say. try talking basketball.

That literally doesn't make any sense. You don't do anything but call people terrible internet names then re-quote yourself over and over and over even when many of your takes aren't anything that need to be repeated.

It's ok, I'm just saying you are very, very annoying but you are obviously welcome here.

[BD24]

You're the shittiest poster on the board, and that's saying something when cutewizard posts as well
:lol

[DPG21920]

idc what you have to say. try talking basketball.


i'm talking basketball :lmao

if you get the impression that i come off as tough, then good. i'm not acting.

you come off like a bitch.


try answering the question bitch.


i'm not trying to sound witty you twat.

chinook always trying to divert :lol


thegreatcunt: irrelevant as always.

and pinked.


suck his dick in private.


sagirl: i know manu more than you. his ego was showing in a game i didn't watch :lol


thegreatcunt on bertans a few months ago:


me in early july:


thegreatcunt now:

:lmao


everything i write is worth reading.

i don't ever see anyone citing br but you :lol

:lmao

Talk basketball DPG :cry

[dabom]

Dpg is a low iq poster. :lol

[cutewizard]

He's very talented but has a habit if forcing bad contested shots and he does not have the skill to be finishing those difficult shots at this time in his career. He's gotten benched for playing selfishly, which honestly with his youth and role in the pecking order, if he can't learn that now, he won't learn it ever. POP giving him the tough coaching.


--------------------------------------------------------------------

Thanks man! You always respond to my queries, kudos and more power!

[gambit1990]

Dpg is a low iq poster. :lol
tbh.

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x__g5WXkA_I

[emanueldavidginobili]

Dejounte in 5 games in the D-league is averaging 17 pts 9 reb 8 assist and 2 steals

[Chinook]

Dejounte in 5 games in the D-league is averaging 17 pts 9 reb 8 assist and 2 steals

Awesome. If he can add about eight ppg to that, he'll be where he needs to be to take the next step. Before learning to be a Spur, he has to learn to be an NBA player. Let's hope that he can keep doing that.

[Kawhitstorm]

Dejounte in 5 games in the D-league is averaging 17 pts 9 reb 8 assist and 2 steals

He's averaging 5 turnovers & shooting 10% from 3.:lol

[Mnky]

He's averaging 5 turnovers & shooting 10% from 3.:lol

20 yr old with elite size and athleticism averaging near a triple double. Pop has mentioned in interviews he doesn't care how many mistakes Murray makes in the D-league, he wants him to focus on learning the system and how to become an NBA player. It would seem averaging near a triple double is doing exactly what they asked of him. They don't want to ruin what the kid does, they want to capitalize on potential.

I think he shot 10% fg percentage one game. His shot was his known weakness, as is most slashers. At 20, I'm pretty comfortable that he hasn't developed a shot yet. He was never, at any level, asked to shoot, mainly because he didnt' have to. We've seen him get hot in games, so the ability is there.

As far as I'm concerned, kid is doing good. If he had an NBA shot to go with everything else, He wouldn't have been drafted outside the top 5.

[kaji157]

20 yr old with elite size and athleticism averaging near a triple double. Pop has mentioned in interviews he doesn't care how many mistakes Murray makes in the D-league, he wants him to focus on learning the system and how to become an NBA player. It would seem averaging near a triple double is doing exactly what they asked of him. They don't want to ruin what the kid does, they want to capitalize on potential.

I think he shot 10% fg percentage one game. His shot was his known weakness, as is most slashers. At 20, I'm pretty comfortable that he hasn't developed a shot yet. He was never, at any level, asked to shoot, mainly because he didnt' have to. We've seen him get hot in games, so the ability is there.

As far as I'm concerned, kid is doing good. If he had an NBA shot to go with everything else, He wouldn't have been drafted outside the top 5.

Yup. The last game he was 2-19, but did get 15 boards and 13 assists, and got to the line effectively.
If anything, he failed to be "spur like" in terms of that it was a 6 point game, his teammates were all shooting over 50% and he continued to shoot. Eventually the team lost because of that "selfish" attitude.

I am not picking on the guy, just pointing that a PG needs to realise where to carry the ball and who to give shoots to when your teammates are hot and you are not, specially in a game that was decided by 3 points until the last ball.

Off Topic: Livio is becoming dead weight for that team, he has not shown any ability to rebound or defend consistently.

[Ice009]

Yup. The last game he was 2-19, but did get 15 boards and 13 assists, and got to the line effectively.
If anything, he failed to be "spur like" in terms of that it was a 6 point game, his teammates were all shooting over 50% and he continued to shoot. Eventually the team lost because of that "selfish" attitude.

I am not picking on the guy, just pointing that a PG needs to realise where to carry the ball and who to give shoots to when your teammates are hot and you are not, specially in a game that was decided by 3 points until the last ball.

Off Topic: Livio is becoming dead weight for that team, he has not shown any ability to rebound or defend consistently.

That sounds very poor from Murry, jacking up shots with the game on the line when he's shooting so poorly is not smart.

As for LJC, why is the fuck did the Spurs waste that draft pick on him. Their foreign drafting of players has panned out less than good most of the time. Anyone know how their center has been playing in Europe this season, or does he look bad too?

[alpha_HaZE]

Dejounte in 5 games in the D-league is averaging 17 pts 9 reb 8 assist and 2 steals

Nice, that's good to hear. Let's hope he improves his 3 point shot and limits his turnovers!

[Mnky]

That sounds very poor from Murry, jacking up shots with the game on the line when he's shooting so poorly is not smart.

As for LJC, why is the fuck did the Spurs waste that draft pick on him. Their foreign drafting of players has panned out less than good most of the time. Anyone know how their center has been playing in Europe this season, or does he look bad too?

LJC outplayed most of the top draft picks his rookie season at the showcase game. He was never the same after the injury. Preinjury, he looked perfect for the spurs. He was doing everything Dedmon does now. It's crazy how fast he fell off.

[Mnky]

Yup. The last game he was 2-19, but did get 15 boards and 13 assists, and got to the line effectively.
If anything, he failed to be "spur like" in terms of that it was a 6 point game, his teammates were all shooting over 50% and he continued to shoot. Eventually the team lost because of that "selfish" attitude.

I am not picking on the guy, just pointing that a PG needs to realise where to carry the ball and who to give shoots to when your teammates are hot and you are not, specially in a game that was decided by 3 points until the last ball.

Off Topic: Livio is becoming dead weight for that team, he has not shown any ability to rebound or defend consistently.

I agree as far as real games go in the NBA. I don't mind it in the dleague. I agree with pop that it's the perfect place to not worry about mistakes and learn how they impact the game. He's trying to win, shows up in all his stats.
Can't help but bet on that type of mentality with that potential.

Needs a better shot and maybe those looks don't look so bad in hindsight. I love the assists and rebounds though.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

little DPG getting burnt again

[SAGirl]

Yup. The last game he was 2-19, but did get 15 boards and 13 assists, and got to the line effectively.
If anything, he failed to be "spur like" in terms of that it was a 6 point game, his teammates were all shooting over 50% and he continued to shoot. Eventually the team lost because of that "selfish" attitude.

I am not picking on the guy, just pointing that a PG needs to realise where to carry the ball and who to give shoots to when your teammates are hot and you are not, specially in a game that was decided by 3 points until the last ball.

Off Topic: Livio is becoming dead weight for that team, he has not shown any ability to rebound or defend consistently.

He was the same in college. Feast or famine dude. His team in college was awful in large part bc of this (and his terrible defense as wwell). He was a bad decision maker and obviously a bad shooter. But obviously there is the athleticism and physical profile. It's a process I guess. Things are fixable but they take time (like shooting for example).

Thanks for the report kaji.

[SAGirl]

That sounds very poor from Murry, jacking up shots with the game on the line when he's shooting so poorly is not smart.

As for LJC, why is the fuck did the Spurs waste that draft pick on him. Their foreign drafting of players has panned out less than good most of the time. Anyone know how their center has been playing in Europe this season, or does he look bad too?
Milutinov allegedly is playing less minutes than last season and appears to have regressed but it's a very small sample size. I have not observed him but there are some reports and chat about him in the think tank section.

If anything I think since Bertans the Spurs international scouts have missed on a lot of guys that have gone late in the first or in the second round. That is probably what makes me wonder late 1st round picks and 2nd round picks are huge gambles with a large margin of error anyways, but since the Spurs were looking to avoid adding someone to the roster some years and were targeting foreign players to stash anyways, they missed on a few good guys.

[SAGirl]

Time to bump this thread too.
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The Spurs’ decision to waive backup point guard Nicolas Laprovittola on Tuesday should clear the path for first-round draft pick Dejounte Murray to see more playing time eventually.
Coach Gregg Popovich stresses the word “eventually.”
Though Popovich has been pleased with Murray’s progress, he would not rule out more seasoning trips to the Development League for the 20-year-old.
“The more minutes he gets, the better,” Popovich said. “He will still play some minutes in the D-League. I don’t think it will do him much good just to sit on the bench.”


“He needs to get repetition on pick and rolls, making decisions on the fast break, that sort of thing,” Popovich said. “He will still do double duty (in the D-League) in that sense, but I just think his potential is off the charts. … We just need to work on his skills and stick with it.”

[Chinook]

My guess is that this means he'll be playing in Austin on off days but be active for every SA game. It's a great thing to have both teams so close. Would have liked to see him settle in for the Toros instead, but we'll see. I'd also like see him come in for Manu rather than just Tony. That's likely where he'd be playing next season, so he should get more time there.

[SAGirl]

Really excited about this kid.
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[Chinook]

Some highlights from Austin:

Scoring


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r84HyqQWFE

Defense


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vk_fB-ru3Q8

Passing


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hg0FmHnb4Fg

[SAGirl]

My guess is that this means he'll be playing in Austin on off days but be active for every SA game. It's a great thing to have both teams so close. Would have liked to see him settle in for the Toros instead, but we'll see. I'd also like see him come in for Manu rather than just Tony. That's likely where he'd be playing next season, so he should get more time there.
Pop's statement that his potential is off the charts makes me believe he will be afforded opportunities whenever they can spare him. Pop hasn't made statements like that about young players recently. He has praised Simmons for example, but not to that extent.

You have a good idea with him being active for games but getting Austin games in off days. Pop called it "double duty."

In that sense I understand waiving Nico. I don't think it was necessary to waive him per se... but it seems Pop didn't want to have the conflict with having to find opportunities for Nico to play when in reality he saw Murray's potential and his development coming along and he could not envision at this point wanting to play Nico over Murray. I can see that putting him in a bind as a coach bc he owed it to Nico too to find him some playing time if he was still on the team. Pop has really bought in with Murray.

[apalisoc_9]

Pop is not tye worst at evaluating talent so that's a good sign.

The last time he praised someone ridiculous, that player turned into one of the best players in the NBA. "He's a franchise player"...and that was kawhi's second year IIRC.

[Chinook]

Pop's statement that his potential is off the charts makes me believe he will be afforded opportunities whenever they can spare him. Pop hasn't made statements like that about young players recently. He has praised Simmons for example, but not to that extent.

You have a good idea with him being active for games but getting Austin games in off days. Pop called it "double duty."

In that sense I understand waiving Nico. I don't think it was necessary to waive him per se... but it seems Pop didn't want to have the conflict with having to find opportunities for Nico to play when in reality he saw Murray's potential and his development coming along and he could not envision at this point wanting to play Nico over Murray. I can see that putting him in a bind as a coach bc he owed it to Nico too to find him some playing time if he was still on the team. Pop has really bought in with Murray.

Supposedly, the Spurs were considering trading into the lottery to pick him. I thought that was just ex post facto PR hubbub, but maybe they really did like him that much? Murray vs McCaw should be an interesting debate this time next year.

[SAGirl]

Pop is not tye worst at evaluating talent so that's a good sign.

The last time he praised someone ridiculous, that player turned into one of the best players in the NBA. "He's a franchise player"...and that was kawhi's second year IIRC.
Agree...I had not seen the Murray article until today.
I was already excited about him and the Nico thing made me think Pop wanted to prioritize him, but to see it directly from Pop is something else...
______________
As an aside:
raybies ought to be super happy. Though Murray was my draft pick of choice (just on physical attributes, he was super erratic in college)... raybies stuck by him through thick and thin and wanted to see him more this season.

Hopefully we see him develop and come along more through the season. I am higher on him than I ever was on Simmons or Anderson... Not that I have abandoned any wagons mind you, but he's just 20 and clearly has the physical attributes to develop into a terrific player if he puts the work in.

[SAGirl]

Supposedly, the Spurs were considering trading into the lottery to pick him. I thought that was just ex post facto PR hubbub, but maybe they really did like him that much? Murray vs McCaw should be an interesting debate this time next year.
I saw somewhere that Spurs (RC personally but I am not sure about Pop...) flew to see him at his agent's office in CLE... (Rich Paul i think?) bc his agent had him on the exclusive, he wasn't available for draft day interviews, etc. Dijon said in an interview that the chemistry with the team was instantaneous and that after meeting them he wanted to get drafted by them, but obviously he had no idea if they would be able to get him as he expected to go higher and didn't know about any trades. But at least that confirms that the Spurs due diligence with Dijon was very active. (they were rumored to have scouted Ulis really hard too... guards must have been a priority).

[Mr. Body]

Really excited about this kid.
814266111747358720

Great to hear. He fell into a potentially perfect opportunity. Most lottery teams wouldn't be score to develop him and he'd waste away

[GSH]

Maybe they're thinking that they just won't be able to afford to keep Patty next year, so they need to get Murray more minutes against higher-level competition? They obviously decided that Lap wasn't going to be enough of a 3rd PG this year, and didn't have the upside of Murray for the future. Murray has been a TO machine in Austin, and it's hard to imagine that getting better against NBA defenders in the near term.

Forbes has been shooting his ass off in Austin, but can't defend for shit. Cory Jefferson has been beasting in Austin, but he'd average a foul-out in 15 minutes against NBA players, I'm afraid. And Bertans can't get on the court here. Maybe there's someone getting bought out that they think is better?

[bic50]

Encouraging words from pop

[Nathan89]

Pops comment shows that he has the work ethic and character it takes to become a good player. Can't wait to see his game improve.

[Kawhitstorm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r84HyqQWFE


He has a similar footwork as Tyreke Evans especially with those side-steps & long strides in traffic.

XprFPLHhhUM

[Spur|n|Austin]

Those 5 steals in the video chinook posted sure looked tasty. He's so damn long!

[Mnky]

Pop has said on more than one occasion, the turnovers are not an issue. He wants him to use the time to develop what he does, and that's attack and be aggressive. Pop won a few rings with an aggressive guard who couldn't shoot, he knows the usefulness of that skill.

He's now bringing him into some NBA minuted and talking about learning decisions. Pop knows what he's doing as far as development. He's building the kids comfort and confidence, letting him know it's alright to screw up for now. Couldnt ask for a better learning environment, reminds me of Tim Duncan always being non chalant about his teammates mistakes and how it made them better.

I'm sure Pop could clamp down on the kid and make him then it over less, but at the cost of hurting his unique development? I'd prefer he keep going with the special aspects. Many similar guards coming out have had horrid turnover issues and been fine even with them. I don't see it being anything to concern about now, more of just being something wrong to find with him. If he's averaging 8 tos a game next summer league, there might need to be some adjustment taken.

For now, spread your wings and fly youngin. I like what I see.

[dabom]

Chinook still on par calling him one of the worst shooters of all time and whether he will ever be fix a broken shot. :lol

His opinion of course. :lol

[hombre]

Love seeing him check in to the Phoenix game with a comfortable lead and attack their interior defense instead of just running the clock down.

[bic50]

If he continues to work hard and improve maybe he'll be as good as Kyle Anderson.

[Darius Bieber]

His length at the PG position is unparalleled. I think he'd be the perfect Curry stopper if he's disciplined on defense.

[raybies]

Agree...I had not seen the Murray article until today.
I was already excited about him and the Nico thing made me think Pop wanted to prioritize him, but to see it directly from Pop is something else...
______________
As an aside:
raybies ought to be super happy. Though Murray was my draft pick of choice (just on physical attributes, he was super erratic in college)... raybies stuck by him through thick and thin and wanted to see him more this season.

Hopefully we see him develop and come along more through the season. I am higher on him than I ever was on Simmons or Anderson... Not that I have abandoned any wagons mind you, but he's just 20 and clearly has the physical attributes to develop into a terrific player if he puts the work in.
I am actually indeed very excited. My attention for the Spurs grows when a prospect has the potential to grow into stardom. I love seeing players mature like that. It was a pleasure to see Kawhi do that, Manu do that, and Parker do that, now I think Murray can do that. He can be the difference between a down year and being a legit contender in a couple years imo. It depends if LMA stays and what they need from him.

[Kawhitstorm]

His length at the PG position is unparalleled. I think he'd be the perfect Curry stopper if he's disciplined on defense.

MCW & Tyreke Evans is just as tall & lanky.:lol (Murray is more like MCW who has given Curry problems)

Another lanky guy who could handle the ball, rebound & get to the rim at will but wasn't much of a shooter was Ron Harper:

TqUuKWksvyE

[raybies]

Personally, i think the biggest thing he has shown so soon is that they feel that he is over himself already. I think that was the first step and the fact that he has shown immense growth after the fact led to Nico getting the boot.

[Darius Bieber]

MCW & Tyreke Evans is just as tall & lanky.:lol (Murray is more like MCW who has given Curry problems)

Another lanky guy who could handle the ball & get to the rim at will was Ron Harper:

TqUuKWksvyE

I gotcha, but I was referring more to Murray's wingspan.

[Kawhitstorm]

I gotcha, but I was referring more to Murray's wingspan.

Wingspan:

Reggie Jackson: 7'0"
Tyreke Evans: 6'11"
:lolD'Bust: 6'10":lol
Rondo: 6'9"
John Wall: 6'9"
George Hill: 6'9"
Murray: 6'9"
Rose: 6'8"
Elfrid Payton: 6'8"
Mudiay: 6'8"
Jennings: 6'7"
Westbrook: 6'7"
Lillard: 6'7"
Avery Bradley: 6'7"
MCW: 6'7"
Bledsoe: 6'7"
Jrue: 6'7"
Teague: 6'7"

[pgardn]

Needs to bulk up a bit as well. He is gonna get shoved around.

I wish he was ready NOW. We need him.

[Darius Bieber]

Wingspan:

Reggie Jackson: 7'0"
Tyreke Evans: 6'11"
:lolD'Bust: 6'10":lol
Rondo: 6'9"
John Wall: 6'9"
George Hill: 6'9"
Murray: 6'9"
Rose: 6'8"
Elfrid Payton: 6'8"
Mudiay: 6'8"
Westbrook: 6'7"
Lillard: 6'7"
Avery Bradley: 6'7"
MCW: 6'7"
Bledsoe: 6'7"
Jrue: 6'7"
Teague: 6'7"

It may be a bit premature, but I do think we have higher expectations of Murray to surpass Evans and Jackson skill-wise. His speed and acceleration is also something that sets himself a part from the others one that list.

[Kawhitstorm]

It may be a bit premature, but I do think we have higher expectations of Murray to surpass Evans and Jackson skill-wise. His speed and acceleration is also something that sets himself a part from the others one that list.

Even if we're just talking about guy who have a 6'9" or bigger wing-span then Murray is quicker than John Wall or a young Rondo.:lol

You also have guys like Larry Hughes who were lanky & athletic but there is no information about their wingspan.

[Darius Bieber]

Even if we're just talking about guy who have a 6'9" or bigger wing-span then Murray is quicker than John Wall or a young Rondo.:lol

I think we are so accustomed to Parker' slow, molasses-like movement these days it makes Murray look like Usain Bolt.

[Kawhitstorm]

I think we are so accustomed to Parker' slow, molasses-like movement these days it makes Murray look like Usain Bolt.

R7xn0qN5AVI

3Vs2tqV8JP8

[ace3g]

Austin Spurs


POS
MIN
FGM-A
3PM-A
FTM-A
+/-
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
PF
STL
TO
BS
BA
PTS


Jarell
Eddie
(http://dleague.nba.com/player/jarell-eddie) 16
F
36
2-8
1-7
0-0
-2
0
4
4
1
1
0
2
0
0
5


Daniel
Stewart
(http://dleague.nba.com/player/daniel-stewart) 7
F
13
0-0
0-0
0-0
-1
0
2
2
0
3
1
0
0
0
0


Cory
Jefferson
(http://dleague.nba.com/player/cory-jefferson) 99
C
26
7-11
0-1
5-5
9
2
5
7
0
6
1
0
0
1
19


Dejounte
Murray
(http://dleague.nba.com/player/dejounte-murray) 5

G
43
13-23
0-2
5-8
5
3
9
12
3
3
2
5
0
2
31


Bryn
Forbes
(http://dleague.nba.com/player/bryn-forbes) 14
G
41
10-19
3-5
7-7
10
0
6
6
2
5
0
2
0
1
30


Jeff
Ledbetter
(http://dleague.nba.com/player/jeff-ledbetter) 8

9
1-3
1-2
2-2
-10
0
0
0
0
0
0
1
0
0
5


Livio
Jean-Charles
(http://dleague.nba.com/player/livio-jean-charles) 35

23
1-9
0-0
0-0
-10
1
2
3
0
2
0
2
1
3
2


Charles
Garcia
(http://dleague.nba.com/player/charles-garcia) 33

16
0-3
0-0
5-6
-11
0
2
2
1
5
0
4
0
0
5


Patricio
Garino
(http://dleague.nba.com/player/patricio-garino) 25

28
1-5
0-2
0-0
-12
0
7
7
1
3
2
1
1
1
2


Maurice
Bolden
(http://dleague.nba.com/player/maurice-bolden) 23

16
3-6
1-2
2-2
7
3
3
6
2
1
0
0
1
0
9


Demetri
McCamey
(http://dleague.nba.com/player/demetri-mccamey) 11
DNP - Coach's Decision


Alexis
Wangmene
(http://dleague.nba.com/player/alexis-wangmene) 17
DNP - Coach's Decision


Total
-
-
38-87
6-21
26-30
-
9
40
49
10
29
6
17
3
8
108


Percentages

44%
29%
87%

[Robz4000]

3 assists and 5 TOs with no threes. Not really impressed.

[BillMc]

Austin Spurs




POS
MIN
FGM-A
3PM-A
FTM-A
+/-
OREB
DREB
REB
AST
PF
STL
TO
BS
BA
PTS


Jarell
Eddie
(http://dleague.nba.com/player/jarell-eddie)

16
F
36
2-8
1-7
0-0
-2
0
4
4
1
1
0
2
0
0
5


Daniel
Stewart
(http://dleague.nba.com/player/daniel-stewart)

7
F
13
0-0
0-0
0-0
-1
0
2
2
0
3
1
0
0
0
0


Cory
Jefferson
(http://dleague.nba.com/player/cory-jefferson)

99
C
26
7-11
0-1
5-5
9
2
5
7
0
6
1
0
0
1
19


Dejounte
Murray
(http://dleague.nba.com/player/dejounte-murray)

5

G
43
13-23
0-2
5-8
5
3
9
12
3
3
2
5
0
2
31


Bryn
Forbes
(http://dleague.nba.com/player/bryn-forbes)

14
G
41
10-19
3-5
7-7
10
0
6
6
2
5
0
2
0
1
30


Jeff
Ledbetter
(http://dleague.nba.com/player/jeff-ledbetter)

8

9
1-3
1-2
2-2
-10
0
0
0
0
0
0
1
0
0
5


Livio
Jean-Charles
(http://dleague.nba.com/player/livio-jean-charles)

35

23
1-9
0-0
0-0
-10
1
2
3
0
2
0
2
1
3
2


Charles
Garcia
(http://dleague.nba.com/player/charles-garcia)

33

16
0-3
0-0
5-6
-11
0
2
2
1
5
0
4
0
0
5


Patricio
Garino
(http://dleague.nba.com/player/patricio-garino)

25

28
1-5
0-2
0-0
-12
0
7
7
1
3
2
1
1
1
2


Maurice
Bolden
(http://dleague.nba.com/player/maurice-bolden)

23

16
3-6
1-2
2-2
7
3
3
6
2
1
0
0
1
0
9


Demetri
McCamey
(http://dleague.nba.com/player/demetri-mccamey)

11
DNP - Coach's Decision


Alexis
Wangmene
(http://dleague.nba.com/player/alexis-wangmene)

17
DNP - Coach's Decision


Total
-
-
38-87
6-21
26-30
-
9
40
49
10
29
6
17
3
8
108


Percentages

44%
29%
87%









Great numbers. Thanks for posting.. Murray looks really good. (Though honestly you'd hope for more than 3 assists in 43 minutes for a future pg).

Nice by Forbes. But LJC:depressed

[ECOV]

3 assists and 5 TOs with no threes. Not really impressed.only a rook

[spurraider21]

3 assists and 5 TOs with no threes. Not really impressed.pointy elbows, would not bang

[Robz4000]

only a rook

It's also the D-league tbh.

[Robz4000]

pointy elbows, would not bang

Shops at Walmart too

[Chinook]

Looks like the Spurs picked the best two prospects to hold onto.

[CGD]

Nice by Murray and Forbes. Add to that Bertans showing at the big club last night, and what a nice stable of young prospects. Poor Kyle.

[Splits]

pointy elbows, would not bang

I happen to like pointy elbows...

[spurraider21]

I happen to like pointy elbows...thats because your anorexic bitches are always bony af

[BD24]

Went to an Austin Spurs game a few weeks ago. Murray wasnt playing because the Spurs had a game that night, was a little dissapointed in that.

Must saay that I didnt know who corey jefferson was prior to going to this game. He looked pretty solid though tbh.

[Kawhitstorm]

Looks like the Spurs picked the best two prospects to hold onto.

They should get used to playing w/ each other b/c it's going to happen in the big leagues when Manu/Patty are gone next season.

[MaNu4Tres]

They should get used to playing w/ each other b/c it's going to happen in the big leagues when Manu/Patty are gone next season.

I can see Murray getting the promotion, and Forbes filling in the 12' Patty role ( 3rd string PG -- even though he's not a PG like Patty but he'll defend PGs).

[alpha_HaZE]

Dejounte is a very exciting prospect and am so excited to watch him on the court. He defends well, and can play both one and two positions. He also has incredible athleticism, is willing to learn, and works hard. I can easily see him develop into a Yiannis-The-Greek-Freak type of player.

[r0drig0lac]

Livio 1-9 http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smidepressed.gif

[will_spurs]

That Livio line in comparison :(

[ECOV]

It's also the D-league tbh.Still a rook in development. That's what the d-league is for.

[emanueldavidginobili]

With Parkers decline and Patty obviously not our future starting PG, they need Murray to learn and grow quick. I can see PATFO throw him in the fire next season.

[emanueldavidginobili]

It's also the D-league tbh.

D-league is also a lot more competitive than college tbh. He'd only be a sophomore in college right now.

[SuperCam]

Picked 7 spots ahead of Brogdon, PAFTO blows it again :bang

[Snaq O'Meal]

Picked 7 spots ahead of Brogdon, PAFTO blows it again :bang

Brogdon loved to be a Spur. Bad move to speak up like that. Pop doesn't like players telling him what to do (or who to draft).

[tim_duncan_fan]

Dejounte Unchained!

[dabom]

Dejounte Unchained!

[timtonymanu]

Det Kawhi + Dijon duo in the making

[tim_duncan_fan]

Det Kawhi + Dijon duo in the making

In 3 years they are going to be something else. We just need a B-level defensive big.

[emanueldavidginobili]

He has 20 points tonight?!? What Is going on, I can't wait to see the highlights

[dabom]

people on this site acting like it's impossible for a rookie to contribute to a starting line up. he wouldn't even need to carry an offensive load with him playing alongside kawhi, la, gasol.


Then what's the point? He's not good at anything else right now.


He can get to the rim and is athletic you stupid fuck. :lmao

Did you fucking forget that "poverty nursery of forbes". :lmao


Also has "potential" unlike all our other fucking options. :lol

:lol

[Mr. Body]

He's looking like a lottery pick.

[Seventyniner]

Murray scores 20: "omg cut Parker this kid is the future"
Parker scores 20: "omg cut Parker he's taking shots from Kawhi"

[HarlemHeat37]

You can really see the Jamal Crawford influence in his game, tbh..

[FkLA]

A star is born :cry

[ducks]

Mills just lost getting resigned by spurs

[apalisoc_9]

You can really see the Jamal Crawford influence in his game, tbh..

This....

The way he shakes etc.

:lol

I just hope hes more of a controlled Jamal...Like an early 30s Jamal.

guy use to give me headache in his earl years. :lol

[ace3g]

Jordan Howenstine ‏@AirlessJordan (https://twitter.com/AirlessJordan)






Dejounte Murray is now the youngest player in Spurs franchise history to score 24 or more points in a game. Previously Tony Parker in 2002.

[TheDoctor]

Jordan Howenstine ‏@AirlessJordan (https://twitter.com/AirlessJordan)






Dejounte Murray is now the youngest player in Spurs franchise history to score 24 or more points in a game. Previously Tony Parker in 2002.

TP already looking for DM's girlfriend snapchat

[SAGirl]

Jordan Howenstine ‏@AirlessJordan (https://twitter.com/AirlessJordan)






Dejounte Murray is now the youngest player in Spurs franchise history to score 24 or more points in a game. Previously Tony Parker in 2002.
wow:wow
definitely a good looking future ahead ...
lucky Spurs
:flag:

[MaNu4Tres]

You can really see the Jamal Crawford influence in his game, tbh..

Mehh.. Murray gets his shot in the most efficient areas of the floor ( so far). In the paint and from 3.

Crawford just chucks bad long 2's without hesitation.

Huge difference. However, both are black , 6'5", and from Seattle.

[FkLA]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74X6L0f1sMk

:worthy:

[HarlemHeat37]

Mehh.. Murray gets his shot in the most efficient areas of the floor ( so far). In the paint and from 3.

Crawford just chucks bad long 2's without hesitation.

Huge difference. However, both are black , 6'5", and from Seattle.
I thought I remembered Bulls/Knicks Crawford attacking the rim more often, but ya, the numbers say you're correct..

[DPG21920]

I thought I remembered Bulls/Knicks Crawford attacking the rim more often, but ya, the numbers say you're correct..

Hopefully DJM can run an offense better than Crawford. DJM needs to be a PG - not all PGs have to be Nash or CP3, TP types are amazing too. But Crawford was never a PG in any sense and SA needs DJM to be.

[BatManu20]

822293821954420738

[dabom]

Start him Pop.

[BatManu20]

822295023370772480

[BatManu20]

822293261750599680

[BatManu20]

822292260914167808

[BatManu20]

822299817292562434

[BatManu20]

Dejounte Murray on playing Austin " I was mad the first time, it's human, it's normal but as i start playing i was actually thankful for it"

[sasaint]

Mills just lost getting resigned by spurs

I kind of think you are right. If the Spurs don't plan on bringing him back, I wish they would move him this season before the trade deadline so they would get something in return.

[BatManu20]

822302394931412993

[TheDoctor]

Man he just needs to continue to work hard. Excited about his future w/ the Spurs.

[dabom]

822302394931412993

Dat leadership. :claw

[HarlemHeat37]

He better leave if he thinks he's going to start at PG for the Spurs within the next 6 years, tbh:lol

[Mr. Body]

Just want to point out much of his success tonight was in canning his threes. I don't expect that much. Mai's potential is terrific, and I'm even more unsure why he dropped to the end of the first round, but he still needs a ton of work to be counted on even as a second stringer.

[GSH]

Murray scores 20: "omg cut Parker this kid is the future"
Parker scores 20: "omg cut Parker he's taking shots from Kawhi"

There's some truth to that, TBH. Murray only had 2 assists tonight. Don't get me wrong, he played a GREAT game. But if Parker had scored 24 with just 2 AST's, there would be multiple threads about it.



Dejounte Murray on playing Austin " I was mad the first time, it's human, it's normal but as i start playing i was actually thankful for it"



It will be interesting to see if he feels too good for the D-League after this game. CoJo actually asked to go to Austin when he was a rookie, and it went a long way with PATFO.

[SAGirl]

He better leave if he thinks he's going to start at PG for the Spurs within the next 6 years, tbh:lol
:rollin
Didn't you hear manu can also play for 5 more seasons?
lol
Dijon and his naivete.

[SAGirl]

Just want to point out much of his success tonight was in canning his threes. I don't expect that much. Mai's potential is terrific, and I'm even more unsure why he dropped to the end of the first round, but he still needs a ton of work to be counted on even as a second stringer.
He could not shoot worth a lick.. was a TO machine, and seemed like a bad version of Russ Westbrook in college in the sense that a lot of his scoring was in transition and he could easily shoot his team out of games bc he would not stop shooting even when he was terribly off... his potential was obviously everything else. If you believed his shooting could be fixed, you could be onto something special.. he has an aggressive attacking mentality, can rebound very well for a guard, etc.. you can see all his physical tools.

He was in a losing team in WAshington in large part bc of the above flaws (lack of shooting, somewhat of a selfish style of game... and he could not defend as he's light as a feather.) His shooting seems much improved, and he seems very capable of playing within a system... has bbiq... good things to see as he's very young. Already making defensive plays too. Really excited how much he's improved TBH.

[Kawhitstorm]

I thought I remembered Bulls/Knicks Crawford attacking the rim more often, but ya, the numbers say you're correct..

Small sample size but if you superimpose Reggie Jackson's 2013 postseason shooting chart w/ Murray's shooting chart, it's very similar: (I see Murray as being a hybrid b/w Brandon Jennings & Reggie Jackson)

- http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jacksre01.html#playoffs_shooting::none

vs.

- http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/murrade01.html#shooting::none

[tim_duncan_fan]

Jordan Howenstine ‏@AirlessJordan (https://twitter.com/AirlessJordan)






Dejounte Murray is now the youngest player in Spurs franchise history to score 24 or more points in a game. Previously Tony Parker in 2002.

Even as a fan who has seen the ones that didn't pan out, you have to ask

"How do they keep doing this?"

[DJR210]

Dejounte Unchained!

:lmao dead

[Mnky]

Has anyone been following his Instagram, and the bro love he shared with LMA and Kawhi, calling them big bros. LMA returned the love on his.
He seems to be getting along pretty well with the franchise players. That's always a plus when your keystones all mesh well.

[Chinook]

Really happy that he seems to have not only kept up but improved his attitude from draft night. Still surprised he fell so far, even though he can't shoot and will never ever be good at basketball in his life.

[Ice009]

Really happy that he seems to have not only kept up but improved his attitude from draft night. Still surprised he fell so far, even though he can't shoot and will never ever be good at basketball in his life.

You think he won't be a good player at all?

[Chinook]

You think he won't be a good player at all?

I was being sarcastic. Apparently, I've been undercutting the kid for months now.

[cutewizard]

Tuuuuuuuuummmmmmmmmmmmbbbbbbbbleeewweeeed!

[Budkin]

Bump.

[ace3g]

San Antonio Spurs Verified account ‏@spurs (https://twitter.com/spurs)






Dejounte Murray is the first Spurs rookie to have 10+ points in three straight games since Kawhi Leonard in 2011-12.

[ace3g]

k Moyle ‏@NRMoyle (https://twitter.com/NRMoyle)






Over last 5 team games, Dejounte Murray leads all rookies in FG%, is second in scoring, 3rd in assists, and 2nd in 3P%. (He was inactive 2x)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2wJzv3UsAAPNg7.jpg

[Mr. Body]

I still don't think he can keep this up. Incredible if he can.

[Snaq O'Meal]

I still don't think he can keep this up. Incredible if he can.

He may be able to do it if given the chance. Pop is his greatest obstacle.

[cutewizard]

My pet nickname for Murray:

TUMBLEWEED......................

And, meanwhile, just wanna share this..its another field, but hey, knowledge is power:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrALPvWCjN0

[r0drig0lac]

He may be able to do it if given the chance. Pop is his greatest obstacle.

[BD24]

Really liking the relationship he seems to have with LMA and Kawhi. He could be Kawhis Robin in the future if he develops well.

[Namundy]

Well done RC and staff. We got another one.

[SpursforSix]

He looks great. Would like to see his defense improve. And for this to happen, Pop needs to get him more game time. He's got the size and quickness to be an elite defender at his position.

[MI21]

He really needs to be out there with the Spurs strongest defensive squads. Not because he is a bad defender, but because when he pushes off of stops, he is absolute murder. His body strength doesn't weigh him back because of the length, if he is matched up on most PG's in transition he just shoots over the top of them.

He really has a chance to be pretty great, hopefully he can pick up bits and pieces from both Manu and TP...

[spursparker9]

tbh why was Murray still available on the 29th pick?

What was the adverse/bad/negative part on him in the draft scouting report?

[lilbthebasedgod]

tbh why was Murray still available on the 29th pick?

What was the adverse/bad/negative part on him in the draft scouting report?
Too skinny, young, can't shoot at all, and has a bit of an attitude problem iirc.

[cd98]

It was also a deep draft. Lots of good prospects so that means Spurs get opportunities late in the draft. The next two drafts are supposed to go from good to great.

[ace3g]

Jordan Howenstine ‏@AirlessJordan (https://twitter.com/AirlessJordan)






Dejounte Murray is just the second rookie guard in Spurs history to win his first 6 starts. The other: Tony Parker won his first 7 in 2001.

[SAGirl]

Jordan Howenstine ‏@AirlessJordan (https://twitter.com/AirlessJordan)






Dejounte Murray is just the second rookie guard in Spurs history to win his first 6 starts. The other: Tony Parker won his first 7 in 2001.
:flag:

[BD24]

That shot at the end was clutch. Thats a big shot for a rookie.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

He was pretty impressive in crunch time. Saw him acting like a vet out their

[picnroll]

Great game for Murray's confidence.

[DAF86]

That Murray shot ended up effectively being the game winner, tbh.

Murray, Kawhi and Bertans. The big 3 of the future.

[TheGreatYacht]

Beast. Hope he gets Paddy's minutes when MVParker comes back :tu

[UZER]

No fear of the moment with the ball in his hands late. Great sign.

[Mr. Body]

Seemed to have a meh game but really came on.

[Ice009]

Seemed to have a meh game but really came on.

His crunch time play boosted my confidence in him and it surely would have boosted his own. He was pretty cool on defense and offense. Didn't try to do anything crazy.

[Mr. Body]

I'm still not sure why he dropped so far. I thought teams might kick themselves for passing on him a free seasons from now, but they may start doing it soon. I still think he had a long way to go, but everything about him suggests a guy that should have been picked fifteen spots earlier.

[TXstbobcat]

I'm still not sure why he dropped so far. I thought teams might kick themselves for passing on him a free seasons from now, but they may start doing it soon. I still think he had a long way to go, but everything about him suggests a guy that should have been picked fifteen spots earlier.

Spurs front office playing chess while the rest of the NBA front offices playing checkers.

[John Petrucci]

Was great to see Dijon hit that shot in the clutch. I think there was less than 1:30 in the 4th? Damn he doesn't look even close to a rookie sometimes.

His ability to hit highly contested floaters in the NBA is insane for his age.

[DJR210]

alpha

[xellos88330]

What I liked was him actually instructing the vets at times. He would motion them to clear out, and even repositioned mills on the out of bounds play forcing the Raptors to call timeout.

[Kawhitstorm]

I'm still not sure why he dropped so far. I thought teams might kick themselves for passing on him a free seasons from now, but they may start doing it soon. I still think he had a long way to go, but everything about him suggests a guy that should have been picked fifteen spots earlier.

Teams are scared of "point guards" that can't shoot or pass well, that's also why Porker fell in the draft.:lol

[Robz4000]

Clutch motherfucker.

[MI21]

That block on Valanciunas from behind was a thing of beauty, he's obviously been hanging out with LDN.

[cutewizard]

Tummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmbleweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeedddddddddd!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[cutewizard]

When Marc Gasol arrives in Spursland, the S5 will look like:

Marc Gasol at center, Lamarcus and Kawhi at forwards, Green and Murray at guards!

Wow!

Unstoppable....

and then Parker and Pau will lead the scary bench unit, hahahaha

[TheDoctor]

That shot at the end was clutch. Thats a big shot for a rookie.


Great game for Murray's confidence.


Beast. Hope he gets Paddy's minutes when MVParker comes back :tu


No fear of the moment with the ball in his hands late. Great sign.


Damn he doesn't look even close to a rookie sometimes....His ability to hit highly contested floaters in the NBA is insane for his age.


What I liked was him actually instructing the vets at times. He would motion them to clear out, and even repositioned mills on the out of bounds play forcing the Raptors to call timeout.


Clutch motherfucker.

:tu

[boutons_deux]

the kid's got some balls, knows how to play, we'll have to live with the rookie mistakes (lazy crosscourt midcourt pass that was picked off)

Spurs player development has a challenge to push his work ethic.

[Ice009]

the kid's got some balls, knows how to play, we'll have to live with the rookie mistakes (lazy crosscourt midcourt pass that was picked off)

Spurs player development has a challenge to push his work ethic.

It sounds like you think his work ethic isn't too good? From what I've heard/read, he's been nothing but a hard worker like Kawhi so far.

[Harry Callahan]

If DM follows the lead of Kawhi and works on his game like he did, then he'll be fine. Even if he works 80% as hard as KL, he'll be really good.

Good thing most NBA teams don't know how to evaluate, draft, AND develop players.

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erkS8_kqSlU

[DPG21920]

Great video - thanks for posting. His attitude, despite what some say about his management team, has been world class. If he's faking it, he has the best PR coach in history.

[dabom]

I remember posters were ragging on his shooting. Calling him broken. :lmao

[SAGirl]

He had a bad show in garbage time... hopefully learns from mistakes.

[DPG21920]

He's done a lot more bad recently than good. He's been yanked in almost every game Pop gave him time in garbage time for mistakes.

Hopefully he regains focus and earns more time.