Mountaintop Monastery of Dejounte Murray

[turb0time]

Kid has potential, great pickup! :worthy:

[Obi Juan Kenobi]

High Hrothgar...

[dabom]

:toast

[RuffnReadyOzStyle]

Send him to Chip asap. Good to see Spurs draft a long athlete for once.

[Mnky]

:lobt2:

[ninjaskrzypek]

All hail.

[Mr. Body]

He'll pay off in three or for years, but will be scrappy and fun to watch in the meantime.

[MultiTroll]

Project.
Peak? Kawhi the 2nd. (dream)
Lowest projection? Even after eating sandwiches with Bonner, stays skinny and unassertive.

Needs Kwa work ethic including 3 years in weightroom.

[south side spur]

Let's Gooooooo!!!!

[dabom]

Dude has raw potential.

[Mnky]

746193186192658432

LeBron will be joining the monastery.

[random21]

The way he gets to the rim is clone of Tyreke Evans. I like

[Mnky]

746187899385745408

Make room, got more incoming.

[davidbowie]

http://i.imgur.com/gF6cRYs.png?1

my new fav spur :lol

[Mnky]

746193995315838976

[Mnky]

my new fav spur :lol

Did you check that one I just linked ? :lol he's going to have to clean up his twitter account..

[TheGoldStandard]

Loving absolutely everything I'm reading.. He has a personality, work ethic and wants to compete to win.

[davidbowie]

Did you check that one I just linked ? :lol he's going to have to clean up his twitter account..

yeah lol he was just a teen but he got a gang of classics https://twitter.com/SportsGrind/status/746188418669940744

[BatManu20]

Loving absolutely everything I'm reading.. He has a personality, work ethic and wants to compete to win.

And a filthy, perverted sense of humor to boot.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Clr-Z6kUkAUklqi.jpg

[loveforthegame]

Proud member. :tu

[TheGoldStandard]

And a filthy, perverted sense of humor to boot.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Clr-Z6kUkAUklqi.jpg

That's what sold Pop

[dabom]

Someone get him a Spurstalk account ASAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BatManu20]

744721144918335490

[TheGreatYacht]

http://i.imgur.com/gF6cRYs.png?1

my new fav spur :lol
:pop: This is why I don't draft Americans. Get over yourself

[HI-FI]

i don't know anything about the kid but i like it. i was worried about another draft n stash :lol

[BatManu20]

That's what sold Pop

Parker will love him tbh.

[tbdog]

:pop: Are over yourself?

Dejounte Murray (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=261642&p=8637511): Your mum isn't.

[TheGoldStandard]

Parker will love him tbh.


Gruesome twosome

[Mnky]

:pop: Are over yourself?

Dejounte Murray (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=261642&p=8637511): Your mum isn't.

:lol

[horsielove]

:pop: Are over yourself?

Dejounte Murray (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=261642&p=8637511): Your mum isn't.

:lol

[spurs10]

746193186192658432

LeBron will be joining the monastery. That is cool. I'm glad he is acknowledging the San Antonio Cavs.

[gambit1990]

he reminds me of shaun livingston.

[Mr. Body]

He has elite ball handling skills. One underrated things about Parker is how exceptional he is with the ball.

[Kawhitstorm]

He has elite ball handling skills. One underrated things about Parker is how exceptional he is with the ball.

Porker in his prime didn't do too much hot saucing, he beat his defenders w/ his speed/quickness.

[Spur|n|Austin]

He has elite ball handling skills. One underrated things about Parker is how exceptional he is with the ball.


He'll pay off in three or for years, but will be scrappy and fun to watch in the meantime.

so in 3-for years we'll reap the benefits.

[SAGirl]

:pop: Are over yourself?

Dejounte Murray (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=261642&p=8637511): Your mum isn't.

Kid is funny. He seems about ready to take after Tony... lol

[Mr. Body]

so in 3-for years we'll reap the benefits.

"I used to do drugs. I still do, but I used to, too."
-Mitch Hedberg

[Spur|n|Austin]

"I used to do drugs. I still do, but I used to, too."
-Mitch Hedberg

https://m.popkey.co/01abd3/YNV4G.gif

[Spur|n|Austin]

he reminds me of shaun livingston.

reminds me of Jamal Crawford

[Mr. Body]

Porker in his prime didn't do too much hot saucing, he beat his defenders w/ his speed/quickness.

None of that has anything to do with what I said, which is about ball handling.

[gambit1990]

"I used to do drugs. I still do, but I used to, too."
-Mitch Hedberg
rip.


reminds me of Jamal Crawford
i missed that connection at first, but i can see it now. livingston came to mind cause murray's listed as a 6'5" pg.

[BillMc]

And a filthy, perverted sense of humor to boot.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Clr-Z6kUkAUklqi.jpg

Somewhere David Robinson is rolling over in his grave. :lol

[r0drig0lac]

in

[Kawhitstorm]

None of that has anything to do with what I said, which is about ball handling.

Porker had efficient handles but he struggled when he was being guarded by cats just as quick as him before he developed a dependable jumper. The reason he fell off when he lost his elite speed is b/c he can't breakdown defenses with his handles like Chris Paul.

[BillMc]

SAGirl won't like it if he wears this number.:nope

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[313]

:pop: Are over yourself?

Dejounte Murray (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=261642&p=8637511): Your mum isn't.
:lol

[SsKSpurs21]

Chad Ford ESPN Senior Writer

"The San Antonio Spurs select Washington PG DeJounte Murray with the No. 29 pick. Steal of the draft. He was ranked No. 9 on my final Big Board bling, athletic and a great feel. If his shooting improves he could be the best PG in the draft. He could be an All-Star someday. Seriously. Typical Spurs. They got a lottery pick at 29."

[SsKSpurs21]

Also saw this post on reddit about Murray from someone that went to UofW

sammishblan 24 points 11 hours ago*
I watched every game that Murray played live, I go to his school. He attacks the rim really well, he slithers his way to the rim, no matter how many people guard him. His jump shot is very raw tho, he can make 3s but is very inconsistent. He really needs to work on his FTs, we lost a game because he missed tons of FTs, cant rmb how many, but a lot of them. Overall, Id say he has the potential to be a good player, he has good athleticism and ability to attack the rim, once he works on his jump shot, he'll be really good

just_regular_guy 20 points 10 hours ago
Another Husky here, and Dijon Mustard can straight up ball. Biggest thing missing from his game is jump shot. Can be a space cadet on defense as well. I believe his weaknesses are things the spurs are well documented at fixing/developing. You guys got a good one here.

[BatManu20]

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[BatManu20]

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[BatManu20]

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[BatManu20]

http://i.cdn.turner.com/drp/nba/spurs/sites/default/files/styles/main_gallery_photo__480_tall/public/getty-images-542668984.jpg?itok=uPT6iZF1 http://i.cdn.turner.com/drp/nba/spurs/sites/default/files/styles/main_gallery_photo__480_tall/public/getty-images-542669004.jpg?itok=DFNp6eXp

[BatManu20]

http://i.cdn.turner.com/drp/nba/spurs/sites/default/files/styles/main_gallery_photo__480_tall/public/getty-images-542669890.jpg?itok=UqFmYJdr

[BatManu20]

he reminds me of shaun livingston.

Reminds me more of a more athletic Jamal Crawford. Hopefully he continues to develop that jumper.

[BatManu20]

:pop: Are over yourself?

Dejounte Murray (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=261642&p=8637511): Your mum isn't.

:lol

[kobyz]

Taller Dennis Schroder?

[itzsoweezee]

Quote from ESPN (I'm sold!):

While Murray possesses elite size (6-foot-5 with a 6-foot-11 wingspan), athleticism, and a knack for playing instinctively and uninhibitedly, the Spurs understand they're taking on somewhat of a project in the raw guard. Murray set a freshman record for assists (151) at Washington, drew five fouls per 40 minutes and displayed an aggressive mentality as a rebounder (six per game). He also averaged 16.1 points as a freshman in a competitive Pac-12.

[Keepin' it real]

he reminds me of shaun livingston.

Oh yeah, because of the hair, yup, I can see that, too.

[Keepin' it real]

Also saw this post on reddit about Murray from someone that went to UofW

sammishblan 24 points 11 hours ago*
I watched every game that Murray played live, I go to his school. He attacks the rim really well, he slithers his way to the rim, no matter how many people guard him. His jump shot is very raw tho, he can make 3s but is very inconsistent. He really needs to work on his FTs, we lost a game because he missed tons of FTs, cant rmb how many, but a lot of them. Overall, Id say he has the potential to be a good player, he has good athleticism and ability to attack the rim, once he works on his jump shot, he'll be really good

just_regular_guy 20 points 10 hours ago
Another Husky here, and Dijon Mustard can straight up ball. Biggest thing missing from his game is jump shot. Can be a space cadet on defense as well. I believe his weaknesses are things the spurs are well documented at fixing/developing. You guys got a good one here.

Respectfully, I don't care about the "scouting report" of some reddit loser. :wakeup

[tholdren]

Respectfully, I don't care about the "scouting report" of some reddit loser. :wakeup
nor Chad Ford. He was a PG in college with a 4apg 3TOpg average. Thats bad. 66% ft thats bad. 28% 3pt that's bad.

The deal is he does what say needs - attacks the rim. But its ISO garbage and ill advised shots. To make matters worse, his game is driving and attacking but he can't make a ft?

I would have selected Demetrius Jackson, but am not as bummed with this pick as it actually addressed a need.

[ceperez]

well, he was invited to the green room and he shares the same agent as LeBron James. So clearly other folks had high expectations for Murray.

At #29, looks like a steal to me! He's going to be better than Cojo. He's taller and has a ton of moves at 19. You just never know if he'll grow 1 or 2 more inches!

[Sean Cagney]

well, he was invited to the green room and he shares the same agent as LeBron James. So clearly other folks had high expectations for Murray.

At #29, looks like a steal to me! He's going to be better than Cojo. He's taller and has a ton of moves at 19. You just never know if he'll grow 1 or 2 more inches!If he grows 1 or 2 more inches that would be perfect IMO, then thickens out a little bit too. He will be able to LOCK DOWN smaller guards with ease IMO, could be a real asset on that end.

[-21-]

Pretty excited with this pick. I guess his potential is a poor man's Jamal Crawford or Tyreke Evans... he's smaller and his handles don't look nearly as good as those two though, he dribbles it kind of high and awkwardly but it works. Needs work on his jumper but gets to the basket a lot and has a nice floater. Maybe Shaun Livingston?

[SAGirl]

SAGirl won't like it if he wears this number.:nope

http://i.embed.ly/1/display/resize?key=1e6a1a1efdb011df84894040444cdc60&url=https%3A%2F%2Fscontent.cdninstagram.com%2Ft51. 2885-15%2Fsh0.08%2Fe35%2Fp640x640%2F13402226_1210109819 012985_1578003230_n.jpg%3Fig_cache_key%3DMTI3OTQ0M zQ0ODQzMjIzNzExOQ%253D%253D.2&width=810
Lol generic jersey.

[tonight...you]

What's up with black people growing unkempt shrubbery on their heads nowadays?

I miss afro puffs...

[kobyz]

Remind me smaller, less athletic Ron Harper...

[BatManu20]

Perspective.


746900269728817152

[Kawhitstorm]

Perspective.


746900269728817152

I'm surprised he was even born.:lol

[hooperflash]

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/fr/cp0/e15/q65/13502983_1315008821847348_4546427777333094595_o.jp g?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9

[BOHOLANO#21]

He looked good for two quarters of action today! Quick first step.

[SPURt]

And a filthy, perverted sense of humor to boot.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Clr-Z6kUkAUklqi.jpg
which one of you is Murray?

[Obstructed_View]

He looked good for two quarters of action today! Quick first step.

In his first game he looked like the most NBA-ready player on the SL team.

[dabom]

In his first game he looked like the most NBA-ready player on the SL team.

Dude is ready to start. I don't care if he can't shoot. That comes with time. He can get to the rack by himself. Imagine if he actually got some pick n roll action. :wow

[Obstructed_View]

Dude is ready to start. I don't care if he can't shoot. That comes with time. He can get to the rack by himself. Imagine if he actually got some pick n roll action. :wow

I assume you mean start for the SL team. I agree. Kyle needs to be sent home and Murray and Forbes need to be the starting backcourt. I'd love to see heavy doses of Hanlan and Decosey as well, because I think there might be another guard spot open if Simmons doesn't start to show some signs of maturity.

[dabom]

I assume you mean start for the SL team. I agree. Kyle needs to be sent home and Murray and Forbes need to be the starting backcourt. I'd love to see heavy doses of Hanlan and Decosey as well, because I think there might be another guard spot open if Simmons doesn't start to show some signs of maturity.

For the Spurs dude. Not SL. :lmao

[Obstructed_View]

For the Spurs dude. Not SL. :lmao

Really glad you aren't making decisions for any team I root for.

[dabom]

Really glad you aren't making decisions for any team I root for.

I'm glad you off the Tony bandwagon. Took you 2 years to realize he is washed up. :lol

[Obstructed_View]

I'm glad you off the Tony bandwagon. Took you 2 years to realize he is washed up. :lol

I have to ask seriously: Are you retarded or something? It's like you're having a conversation with yourself. Do you actually read the shit that you quote before responding?

[dabom]

I have to ask seriously: Are you retarded or something? It's like you're having a conversation with yourself. Do you actually read the shit that you quote before responding?

Do you watch the Spurs? Tony is a negative impact player now. All advance metrics say we suck with him on. Eye test say the same thing. The media just now saying it. He sucks. Get over it fool. :lol

[Obstructed_View]

Do you watch the Spurs? Tony is a negative impact player now. All advance metrics say we suck with him on. Eye test say the same thing. The media just now saying it. He sucks. Get over it fool. :lol

And he'd average a triple double in the summer league standing on his head. You need to have the nurse who wipes the drool off your face explain to you that the summer league is not actually full of NBA players.

[dabom]

And he'd average a triple double in the summer league standing on his head. You need to have the nurse who wipes the drool off your face explain to you that the summer league is not actually full of NBA players.

He'd get exposed even worse on defense without the triple A defenders he's used to. :lmao

He'd probably score at his usual clip.

Doubt he could rebound or assist enough to actually get a triple double. :lmao

[Keepin' it real]

It's clear to see (for anyone with eyes) that this guy is unquestionably legit. It's not like Forbes, where we wonder if he'll be able to play enough D or shoot 3s at a high enough percentage to justify a roster spot. It's not like Archie, where we wonder if he has the athleticism to survive in the NBA. Murray has all the tools, and more importantly, the competitive fire. He had the most talent of anyone on the court last night, and second place wasn't even close.

Pop will play him, a lot, this upcoming season. He might be a starter before the end of the season.

The future is now.

[look_at_g_shred]

It's clear to see (for anyone with eyes) that this guy is unquestionably legit. It's not like Forbes, where we wonder if he'll be able to play enough D or shoot 3s at a high enough percentage to justify a roster spot. It's not like Archie, where we wonder if he has the athleticism to survive in the NBA. Murray has all the tools, and more importantly, the competitive fire. He had the most talent of anyone on the court last night, and second place wasn't even close.

Pop will play him, a lot, this upcoming season. He might be a starter before the end of the season.

The future is now.
Love the optimism! Hopefully Pop does play him. I mean he was a projected lottery pick. IIRC Leonard didn't go down to the D-League at all..

[cutewizard]

If Parker can do what Manu did all these years, be a bench sparkplug, then thats the day i will respect him

Tony has the opportunity this season to be honourable, lets see if he can do it.....

[Obstructed_View]

Love the optimism! Hopefully Pop does play him. I mean he was a projected lottery pick. IIRC Leonard didn't go down to the D-League at all..

He got assigned when he was hurt, and then recalled before he could play.

[spursmvp]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fu4WAAwiJFo

[Budkin]

Nice alley oop!

[sasaint]

If Parker can do what Manu did all these years, be a bench sparkplug, then thats the day i will respect him

Tony has the opportunity this season to be honourable, lets see if he can do it.....

Not really Tony's choice. And it's not really Pop's MO.

[SpursforSix]

^ thanks for posting the video. I hadn't seen the game clips yet.

I like his ability to get by his man on the dribble. Crossover, stutter step, hesitation...
Looks good. And ability to finish.

[picnroll]

When pre-season roles around let's see how many are pimping Murray for starting PG.
I fully expect the mentally challenged like daboom will remain on the bandwagon no matter what.

[SpursforSix]

When pre-season roles around let's see how many are pimping Murray for starting PG.
I fully expect the mentally challenged like daboom will remain on the bandwagon no matter what.

No way he needs to start. Hopefully, with the shitty NBA, Spurs will be able to get big leads in games so Pop can get the younger guys some significant time.

[.G.]

Dat boah gud, mang, dat boah gud!!!!

[808]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fu4WAAwiJFo

thanks for posting, was just gonna look for highlights

[dabom]

I remember always watching Kawhi youtube highlights when he was younger. This kid got me doing the same.

[-21-]

Pop will play him, a lot, this upcoming season. He might be a starter before the end of the season.

The future is now.

Is your username supposed to be sarcastic? :lol

[SilverSpur]

He reminds me of a lanky young Kobe. Hopefully he won't turn out to be a pain in the ass like Kobe. Hopefully the Spurs culture will keep him humble and mature.

[cutewizard]

Kawhi, JSimms, and Murray would be quite the fastbreak team, ey??!

[Raven]

i really liked the pick, I think we got ourselves the best pg in the draft longterm

[cutewizard]

discipline and development shall be keys......

hope he plugs in into the system, mentally, and most importantly becomes a good citizen

[kobyz]

Can't shot, can't finish with his left, can't play defense!

[BillMc]

I wonder what exactly were these "issues" that allegedly caused teams to pass on him in the draft? Confidence and cockiness aren't in short supply in NBA prospects. Were there rumors of off the court issues? Did his high school or college coach say he was difficult to coach? Selfish?

Or perhaps the story of him falling in the draft isn't true or greatly exagerated. That he went exactly where he should have gone given his age and limited shooting? I've no idea. Anyone follow his college career (short as it was) and have some clarifications? These rumors of "falling" plus whatever happened between him in Jamal Crawford, have me a little worried. Though his play has me excited.

[TheGoldStandard]

I wonder what exactly were these "issues" that allegedly caused teams to pass on him in the draft? Confidence and cockiness aren't in short supply in NBA prospects. Were there rumors of off the court issues? Did his high school or college coach say he was difficult to coach? Selfish?

Or perhaps the story of him falling in the draft isn't true or greatly exagerated. That he went exactly where he should have gone given his age and limited shooting? I've no idea. Anyone follow his college career (short as it was) and have some clarifications? These rumors of "falling" plus whatever happened between him in Jamal Crawford, have me a little worried. Though his play has me excited.


A lot of it has to do with his age and his lack of polish but he's in a position to be a good player. He's physically gifted and has a nose for getting to the basket, his handles seem pretty natural and they'll improve.

[Spurs9]

I think this dude is going to be big time, he has some things he needs to work on but hes in the perfect org to excel.

[Old School 44]

I'm sold. I like his aggressiveness. I heard he has a strong work ethic too. It should be fun watching him develop. I know it's early, but I think the Spurs got another gem late in the draft. It's also great he hung around NBA guys like Jamal Crawford.

[Keepin' it real]

Uh-oh. Murray was nonchalant after Simmons' buzzer beater. Barely gave Simmons a half-assed high 5 then walked away while the team celebrated.

Not a team player? :stirpot:

[Mnky]

Uh-oh. Murray was nonchalant after Simmons' buzzer beater. Barely gave Simmons a half-assed high 5 then walked away while the team celebrated.

Not a team player? :stirpot:

I noticed that too. They probably told him to watch Parker film to prepare for the season... he watched the wrong film. Parker already rubbing off on him.. smh.

[ducks]

simons and murray do not even know each other yet
murray just signed
simmons I bet hangs out with anderson because he knows him

[Mr. Body]

A little concerning, but it's just one moment.

[tim_duncan_fan]

I was worried about it on draft day, but I've changed my mind:

This dude is going to bring hints of attitude and swag to the Spurs. He might even have casual fans.

Gonna be dope.

[ElNono]

He's young and too green, but we knew that coming in... gotta have some patience...

[ducks]

when did murray get there and is he the only one that did not play in the other summer league?

[Solid D]

Murray was like "'bout time you made one at the end, Simmons."

[apalisoc_9]

Can't shot, can't finish with his left, can't play defense!

Sad to say that I agree with kill ball pana aka kobyz about this one. :lol

[SAGirl]

simons and murray do not even know each other yet
murray just signed
simmons I bet hangs out with anderson because he knows him
Simms and Anderson played together something like 26 games in the dleague before we saw them in the last SL. They were jiving from long ago. JSimms in particular has given at least two interviews I have seen him mention that him and Kyle are very tight on and off the court and always support and encourage each other to be better and we have seen that they have undeniable chemistry.

Simms and Dijon OTOH have too similar a game and take opportunities from each other. Neither is a shooter. Both are super athletic and aggressive in transition. Simms appears to be the better passer, but he should be, hes 7 years Dijon's senior and he's been in the system 3 years already. Its not even the same universe in comparison from the two.

Just got to continue watching them. Dijon did have some nice PnR sequences though. He ran them much better than I have seen JSimms run them.

[.G.]

Lil niggz reminds me of Westbrook. That's it.

[look_at_g_shred]

Sad to say that I agree with kill ball pana aka kobyz about this one. :lol
Can't play d? Ok.

[siraulo23]

he's got high upside on both ends but this game showed why he probably wont make an impact in first couple of NBA season

one dimensional on offense, and lacks the fundamentals on defense

[apalisoc_9]

Can't play d? Ok.

Hes got tools to be a decent defender. God hands and height. The problem is his attitude and character. Its his second Summer league and already hes shown numerous signs of defensive laziness exacerbated by his lack of fundamentals.

His inability to defend might just be his character and that's hard to change. Even if he is playing for San antonio. He also cant shoot.

[apalisoc_9]

He will have eye dropping defensive plays ala westbrook but be a negative in actual defensive c0ntribution.

[Atl Spur]

Murray is your typical young player in the sense he has always been the main attraction and now has to share the spotlight! Pop will help break him down to understand the intricacies of Spur Basketball. He is a little selfish and self centered right now..... on his nice spin move for the botched layup, he should have hit forbes in the corner for the open three. Once he stops being so concerned with scoring and starts to focus in on defense (only way he will ever get on the court here) the sky will be the limit! Murray possess all the tools for a lockdown defender.

[hooperflash]

when did murray get there and is he the only one that did not play in the other summer league?

He played the last game of the three in Utah and tonight (first game of Vegas Summer League).

[hooperflash]

Uh-oh. Murray was nonchalant after Simmons' buzzer beater. Barely gave Simmons a half-assed high 5 then walked away while the team celebrated.

Not a team player? :stirpot:

I feel like he was disappointed with his performance.

[peacemaker885]

If he's not over himself, good trade piece.

[SAGirl]

Murray is your typical young player in the sense he has always been the main attraction and now has to share the spotlight! Pop will help break him down to understand the intricacies of Spur Basketball. He is a little selfish and self centered right now..... on his nice spin move for the botched layup, he should have hit forbes in the corner for the open three. Once he stops being so concerned with scoring and starts to focus in on defense (only way he will ever get on the court here) the sky will be the limit! Murray possess all the tools for a lockdown defender.
Good point. :tu

[SAGirl]

Hes got tools to be a decent defender. God hands and height. The problem is his attitude and character. Its his second Summer league and already hes shown numerous signs of defensive laziness exacerbated by his lack of fundamentals.

His inability to defend might just be his character and that's hard to change. Even if he is playing for San antonio. He also cant shoot.
You just want Tony to keep starting. :lol

[ceperez]

Murray is your typical young player in the sense he has always been the main attraction and now has to share the spotlight! Pop will help break him down to understand the intricacies of Spur Basketball. He is a little selfish and self centered right now..... on his nice spin move for the botched layup, he should have hit forbes in the corner for the open three. Once he stops being so concerned with scoring and starts to focus in on defense (only way he will ever get on the court here) the sky will be the limit! Murray possess all the tools for a lockdown defender.

He's got the length to become a good 3 and D player. His current skills sets though aren't going to translate to the regular NBA where you have much bigger and faster players than D-league. 3-11 shooting? 5 TOs? I seriously doubt that Pop will feed his ego. He'll break it down first and who knows if he wants out before he learns to get over himself.

Forbes on the other hand, he was the most enthusiastic player who ran over to congratulate Simmons. He couldn't get going because he wasn't get the passes.

Overall, terrible game.... team hasn't been playing well in the last two games.

[Chinook]

For the health of the team, Murray should come off the bench. As I told people after the Boston game, he doesn't play winning basketball. But that doesn't mean that he won't be able to with time, and as the energy guy with the second unit, he can certainly make an impact. As it is, they're going to have a couple of bigs who are part of their pipeline there soon, so making them go out there just to have them stand around and watch the Big Three control the ball would be awful. I don't think that anyone is really showing improvement if it isn't happening within a team context.

[ceperez]

For the health of the team, Murray should come off the bench. As I told people after the Boston game, he doesn't play winning basketball. But that doesn't mean that he won't be able to with time, and as the energy guy with the second unit, he can certainly make an impact. As it is, they're going to have a couple of bigs who are part of their pipeline there soon, so making them go out there just to have them stand around and watch the Big Three control the ball would be awful. I don't think that anyone is really showing improvement if it isn't happening within a team context.

Yup.... I want to see more scoring out of assists that out of hero ball.

[Blackjack]

For the health of the team, Murray should come off the bench. As I told people after the Boston game, he doesn't play winning basketball. But that doesn't mean that he won't be able to with time, and as the energy guy with the second unit, he can certainly make an impact. As it is, they're going to have a couple of bigs who are part of their pipeline there soon, so making them go out there just to have them stand around and watch the Big Three control the ball would be awful. I don't think that anyone is really showing improvement if it isn't happening within a team context.

I think using the first 2-3 years of Murray's career as a 6th Man would prove to be the most beneficial, for a lot of what you mention. It suits where he is maturity-wise and his talents at this early stage - and it shouldn't be a hard sell with Manu's success and his relationship with Crawford.

As he matures his understanding and skills for the game, and if he proves to be a player capable of taking over the 1 or 2 moving forward, than insert him in the SL. Manu and Tony will be gone, creating the opportunity at the right time.

He's got the ability to contribute off the bench right now. There will definitely be some growing pains, he's got a lot to learn and improve, but I could see him having a night here-and-there that give glimpses of the future. What he's good at now, getting to the rim, playing in transition and his "star" mentality, he'll have more room to work when surrounded by better talent with defenses not being geared to stop him - and some nights... he'll just look god awful. :lol

[emanueldavidginobili]

I also noticed Murray not very excited after thing game and it's understandable, summer league isn't about winning and losing its about improving your overall skill set and he knows he played like shit. I'm sure he's hard on himself and expects a lot from himself he seems like that type of guy. He's a young kid who wants to be great but he has to have patience and let the game come to him but that will come with time and maturity. I also agree with Chinook Murray should come off the bench it would be good for the team and himself. Having Murray Simmons and Anderson on the floor on the same time just doesn't work at times offense gets to stagnant mostly because all three of them need the ball in their hands. Murray will be better off playing with Archi. With time I think Murray can become a good player especially for someone who got drafted at 29, im excited for his future.

[Spurs9]

I like Archi too, hopefully he ends up on a team somewhere if it isn't the Spurs.

[Atl Spur]

Murray will be just fine once Pop gets his hands on him. Patience is a virtue most don't possess..... He will have to learn to truly be a team player in order to thrive on this team though!

[ducks]

post game
http://www.nba.com/spurs/video/teams/spurs/2016/07/10/1468139163769-dejountemurraypostgamegame1mp4-644129

[ducks]

worked with chip already
says he and chip will be working with each other alot
YES

[dabom]

post game
http://www.nba.com/spurs/video/teams/spurs/2016/07/10/1468139163769-dejountemurraypostgamegame1mp4-644129

Great link. The bit about chip and murray is towards the end. :wow

Kid has fire. Start him Pop. :wow

[dabom]

Says he worked with chip for a week and a half before summer league. His shot might also dip while he changes his form. All part of the process.

[Blackjack]

Love his confidence, and he definitely has the tools.

If he's got a work-ethic anywhere near Kawhi, the young fella's gonna be good - not worried about any attitude or selfish behavior. The kid wants to play, he'll fall in line.

[lilbthebasedgod]

He needs to work on getting the ball in the basket. That's my problem. He's a chucker who misses too many shots.

I think its incredibly stupid to complain about off ball defense in summer league. You need to know your teammates plus its his second game out of college. He's had absolutely none of that. You won't find a single good off-ball rookie defender in SL. He could be absolutely terrible off the ball, but this is no reason to believe that.

I think he's got good hands and also seems fairly quick. He's a toothpick though and will get eaten up by heavier guards.

[dabom]

He needs to work on getting the ball in the basket. That's my problem. He's a chucker who misses too many shots.

I think its incredibly stupid to complain about off ball defense in summer league. You need to know your teammates plus its his second game out of college. He's had absolutely none of that. You won't find a single good off-ball rookie defender in SL. He could be absolutely terrible off the ball, but this is no reason to believe that.

I think he's got good hands and also seems fairly quick. He's a toothpick though and will get eaten up by heavier guards.

You don't know what your talking about tbh.

[SPURt]

post game
http://www.nba.com/spurs/video/teams/spurs/2016/07/10/1468139163769-dejountemurraypostgamegame1mp4-644129
Thanks for posting! If this kid can develop into a talented player he's going to be great with media. He's great at answering questions and he seems to be brand conscious. It's cool that chip was in him two days after the draft! That must've been wild to have no idea what is going to happen with your career then two days later be inundated with the Spurs philosophy.

The way he talks about the system sounds a lot like how Pop describes it, "It's just basketball".

[lilbthebasedgod]

You don't know what your talking about tbh.
In which way?

I just said he's skinny, needs to work on his finishing/shot, and summer league is a terrible way to assess off-ball defense. Which part is wrong?

[Keepin' it real]

the young fella's gonna be good - not worried about any attitude or selfish behavior. The kid wants to play, he'll fall in line.

Well we're all relieved that's settled. Thank you so so much for clearing that up for us.

[dabom]

In which way?

I just said he's skinny, needs to work on his finishing/shot, and summer league is a terrible way to assess off-ball defense. Which part is wrong?

Being skinny in basketball isn't a game breaker. He has amazing tools to get to the basket. The ball will go in fairly easily if he knows where to pick his spots.

[Blackjack]

You're welcome.

[DAF86]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fu4WAAwiJFo

:wow

[ace3g]

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Dejounte Murray trying to maintain identity within Spurs' system




https://t.co/x7uTZJoaTV

[SAGirl]

751996417523134464

[SAGirl]

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Just develop Dejounte Pops!:flag:

[SAGirl]

Kid is going to be electric. I'll be sad if he's stashed in the dleague all season.
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[DJR210]

Is this the first non-socially awkward black Spur they've ever drafted?

[Mnky]

Kid is going to be electric. I'll be sad if he's stashed in the dleague all season.
745393095093559296

I think spurfan is just too Dang spoiled. Having drafted the greatest pf ever, arguably the most accomplished foreign prospect, a hall of fame pg, and then the next franchise player top 15, they forget this kid should have never made it past 20, the draft just played perfectly for the spurs. Kid is 19, people talking about playing winning basketball. :lol

He's a kid with immense potential. He could start day one on other teams. His slashing ability is elite already, he's been playing pros for a couple years already. His shot never developed because no-one could stop his drive. He's exactly what the spurs lack, n athletic slasher with size in the position in most need of an upgrade.

I'm looking forward to seeing him play and develop. He showed great strides in summer league alone.

[808]

^ Well said

[tholdren]

I think spurfan is just too Dang spoiled. Having drafted the greatest pf ever, arguably the most accomplished foreign prospect, a hall of fame pg, and then the next franchise player top 15, they forget this kid should have never made it past 20, the draft just played perfectly for the spurs. Kid is 19, people talking about playing winning basketball. :lol

He's a kid with immense potential. He could start day one on other teams. His slashing ability is elite already, he's been playing pros for a couple years already. His shot never developed because no-one could stop his drive. He's exactly what the spurs lack, n athletic slasher with size in the position in most need of an upgrade.

I'm looking forward to seeing him play and develop. He showed great strides in summer league alone.
but he's stupid - spurs don't need that

[SAGirl]

Tholdren again so bitter. Don't know how you can be a fan and still be this bitter. The Spurs are getting younger and now Pop has to coach.

[cutewizard]

I wonder what path will Murray follow in his NBA career:

The selfless chaos of Ginobili, born out of the absolute desire to will his team to victory......

Or the glamorous singularity of Parker, who needs a starring role to be effective??

[bic50]

but he's stupid - spurs don't need that

He's too black for you. You don't like that.

[tholdren]

He's too black for you. You don't like that.
I wouldn't say too black. I would say to dumb to play PG. I also said he should play SG. But you can misconstrue all you want.

[Flawless]

I wouldn't say too black. I would say to dumb to play PG. I also said he should play SG. But you can misconstrue all you want.
Shut up faggot, he'll play whatever position we need him to play. Quit your bitchin' and be happy that your team has a young, talented prospect to develop.

[keithington1]

Him and kawhi and could be deadly

[gambit1990]

start him.

[Atl Spur]

Murray is just young....... with youth comes growth hopefully! He couldn't be in a better situation than San Antonio for professional & personal development. Hopefully Kawhi will start to take more of a leadership role and help mold some of the youngins'

[TrainOfThought5]

Murray is just young....... with youth comes growth hopefully! He couldn't be in a better situation than San Antonio for professional & personal development. Hopefully Kawhi will start to take more of a leadership role and help mold some of the youngins'

Hopefully we can angle to get Okafor to team up with these two, and lead us as the new Big Three

[tholdren]

Shut up faggot, he'll play whatever position we need him to play. Quit your bitchin' and be happy that your team has a young, talented prospect to develop.
you an owner or coach?

[BillMc]

I think spurfan is just too Dang spoiled. Having drafted the greatest pf ever, arguably the most accomplished foreign prospect, a hall of fame pg, and then the next franchise player top 15, they forget this kid should have never made it past 20, the draft just played perfectly for the spurs. Kid is 19, people talking about playing winning basketball. :lol

He's a kid with immense potential. He could start day one on other teams. His slashing ability is elite already, he's been playing pros for a couple years already. His shot never developed because no-one could stop his drive. He's exactly what the spurs lack, n athletic slasher with size in the position in most need of an upgrade.

I'm looking forward to seeing him play and develop. He showed great strides in summer league alone.
:toast

[buttsR4rebounding]

I wouldn't say too black. I would say to dumb to play PG. I also said he should play SG. But you can misconstrue all you want.

:spin

[BackHome]

Hope the kids is hitting the weight room he looks like he can get some playing time I like the kids he got some handles and he has the desire to get better.

[Namundy]

The more I see of him the more I like. Think this kid is going to be a terror paired with Kawhi.

[tholdren]

The more I see of him the more I like. Think this kid is going to be a terror paired with Kawhi.
Don't even put guys out there for the other three positions, then. They will be known as Ballstop.

[SnakeBoy]

Tholdren again so bitter. Don't know how you can be a fan and still be this bitter. The Spurs are getting younger and now Pop has to coach.

He's not much of a fan since he's going to quit watching the Spurs/NBA once Manu retires (his words). After that he'll spend the rest of his days watching Manu highlights while listening to Sinead O'Connor.

[Sean Cagney]

He's not much of a fan since he's going to quit watching the Spurs/NBA once Manu retires (his words). After that he'll spend the rest of his days watching Manu highlights while listening to Sinead O'Connor.

Quit watching the Spurs after Manu retires? Player fan? Wow. I am one of the biggest Tim fans of all times and he is my fave player ever and our franchises best by a mile IMO (Sorry D Rob you were great but Tim is Tim), but he is retired and this is my fave team so I am sticking with them through thick and thin from here on out. Spurs forever, fuck this player fan shit.

[Kawhitstorm]

Is this the first non-socially awkward black Spur they've ever drafted?

Is Kyle socially awkward or not black?:lol

[DJR210]

Is Kyle socially awkward or not black?:lol

:lmao forgot about that dufus.. but yeah, he's your typical Spurs uncle tom he doesn't count

[ceperez]

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Dejounte Murray trying to maintain identity within Spurs' system




https://t.co/x7uTZJoaTV

Real sad... identity should be secondary to become a spurs player. What's the need for identity if your team doesn't win?

[Chinook]

Real sad... identity should be secondary to become a spurs player. What's the need for identity if your team doesn't win?

Yeah, because we all know that Tim, Manu, Tony and Kawhi all changed their identities to become Spurs...

#SMH. First you post and article after his second game in SL -- a month old. Second, you construe the article's meaning to be about Murry and the Spurs' culture rather than him trying to figure out how to fit his play style with teammates he's barely played with. Third, you act like your interpretation of him is a bad thing.

The Spurs "system" is the gestalt of all the individual identities of their players. It's not the result of those guys abnegating those identities. That's the reason why corporate knowledge is so valued. And it's also the reason why the offense can flow through so many different stars over the years. And given the current state of the team, the Spurs definitely don't need another guy who defers to others rather than stepping up. Guys like Joseph and Hill aren't going to consistently win games if they can't show more than bursts of assertion.

Frankly, I hope Murray's attitude rubs off on Anderson and the other young'uns. The Spurs desperately need people to step up when their number is called rather than trying not just be one of the guys.

[still.focused]

Real sad... identity should be secondary to become a spurs player. What's the need for identity if your team doesn't win?

You completely misunderstood the whole "Getting over themselves" concept

[ulosturedge]

Real sad... identity should be secondary to become a spurs player. What's the need for identity if your team doesn't win?

Think your not getting it. In otherwords the FO is telling Dejounte to do what he does best and incorporate it into the Spurs system. Which is smart because otherwise you will screw the dudes confidence and natural feel of the game if you try to completely try to reinvent him into something he is not. Smart player development if you ask me...

No one is telling him not to be a system player, but to infuse what he does best into the Spurs system.

[tholdren]

He's not much of a fan since he's going to quit watching the Spurs/NBA once Manu retires (his words). After that he'll spend the rest of his days watching Manu highlights while listening to Sinead O'Connor.
lol judging "fandom" I just don't like the stupid playground basketball, I'm not a fan of the "entertainment" Im a fan of good basketball. This isn't it. sad that you think it is.

[SnakeBoy]

lol judging "fandom" I just don't like the stupid playground basketball, I'm not a fan of the "entertainment" Im a fan of good basketball. This isn't it. sad that you think it is.

:cryNothing compares to Manu:cry

[dabom]

:cryNothing compares to Manu:cry

I don't think the guy is a manu fan. That's probably what he said so people think he is a Spurs fan.

[cutewizard]

Murray could be a pleasant surprise, if he works hard, learns the system, and stays positive.......!

[cutewizard]

Other fans say our Spurs lack elite athleticism??...........

How about this:

DEDMON AT CENTER,

KAWHI AND BERTANS AT FORWARD

MURRAY AND SIMMONS AT GUARD!!

Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooo!

[ace3g]

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All Summer Sixteen https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f608.pnghttps://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f3c0.png #Grind (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Grind?src=hash)

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[Ditty]

It looks like Murray has an amazing worth ethic, and his hungry for playing time :toast

It looks like he's working out with a mini Derozan though :lol

[gambit1990]

Other fans say our Spurs lack elite athleticism??...........

How about this:

DEDMON AT CENTER,

KAWHI AND BERTANS AT FORWARD

MURRAY AND SIMMONS AT GUARD!!

Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooo!
how much molly do you do before you post here? (not saying i don't like that lineup)

[spurtech09]

idk why but I have a feeling that he can be the next westbrook but even better.....More respectful though :)

[gambit1990]

murray landed in the perfect place.

he coulda been drafted to some shitty team with a lot of expectations placed on his shoulders right away.

[TheDoctor]

It looks like he's working out with a mini Derozan though :lol

LMAO :lmao

Shave his head and he's 5'7" at much. Midget DeRozan.

[Spurs9]

It looks like Murray has an amazing worth ethic, and his hungry for playing time :toast

It looks like he's working out with a mini Derozan though :lol

:lol

[tonight...you]

:cryNothing compares to Manu:cry
http://www.rankopedia.com/CandidatePix/157988.gif

[tonight...you]

how much molly do you do before you post here? (not saying i don't like that lineup)
Molly's pretty damned awesome. I'm a fan.

[gambit1990]

Molly's pretty damned awesome. I'm a fan.
i've only done it a couple times, had fun.

scored some free adderall recently. i appreciate how much it focuses you tbh.

[tonight...you]

i've only done it a couple times, had fun.

scored some free adderall recently. i appreciate how much it focuses you tbh.
Like a laser, but the downs are like finishing a dance with the White Lady (always terrible) with only half the fun.

No fan of adderall. I don't dance with Whitey any longer either though, so take that for what it's worth.
That siren's song is so damn strong... Dirty bitch.

[rastaspur]

Like a laser, but the downs are like finishing a dance with the White Lady (always terrible) with only half the fun.

No fan of adderall. I don't dance with Whitey any longer either though, so take that for what it's worth.
That siren's song is so damn strong... Dirty bitch.

Cocaine and all uppers more times than not will ruin your life if the habit sticks. The good herb is all i need. Never dabbled with lady h and thank god for that. Hate pharmaceuticals.

I do like some mollies but only at music festivals and phish shows, etc.

[tonight...you]

Cocaine and all uppers more times than not will ruin your life if the habit sticks. The good herb is all i need. Never dabbled with lady h and thank god for that. Hate pharmaceuticals.

I do like some mollies but only at music festivals and phish shows, etc.
For real and for true. Best to be Irie. I salsa with my woman. I waltz with my Green Muse.
I only salsa and waltz nowadays, you know I mean?

Eyes drip and caps tipped.

[hooperflash]

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[rastaspur]

761397583591813120

"And bitches." - he clearly forgot that part. And maybe a "ur mawmz" based on some fairly recent tweets.

[dabom]

761397583591813120

Dude is hyped. He can't wait to scratch that itch. I'm hyped.

[gambit1990]

Cocaine and all uppers more times than not will ruin your life if the habit sticks. The good herb is all i need. Never dabbled with lady h and thank god for that. Hate pharmaceuticals.

I do like some mollies but only at music festivals and phish shows, etc.
can't wait until weed's legal. there was a green rush in colorado. and there's lot of land here in texas...

i've considered growing some but i really don't know anything about that.

[tholdren]

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Co_OQbmVIAUHh4j.jpg
lol - the problem with "professional" sports.

[ace3g]

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[BackHome]

Damn that Houston Rocket dude looks like a giant

[ace3g]

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Rookie Photo Shoot https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/2705.png

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[peacemaker885]

Lets see how he reacts the first time Pop gives it to him.

[Chinook]

Coach Daniel breaking down Murray:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKgIlMUnPiM

[ace3g]

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https://scontent-dft4-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13907154_10153742658686981_7354674871261882407_n.j pg?oh=3520a7254bf201d2853ec5741b985ae7&oe=581ECDBC

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[ace3g]

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[SAGirl]

:flag:Excited about the Coach Daniel video. There is a lot to like. He's raw and needs to learn how to shoot. Most likely as part of his development process he'll be in the dleague a fair amout, but he has definite talent and I think we will also see him during the RS with as old backcourt players as the team has. :toast

[T Park]

Lets see how he reacts the first time Pop gives it to him.

Hes already on the record as saying he wants to get yelled at. He wants to get yelled at worse than Parker got yelled at.

[gambit1990]

people on this site acting like it's impossible for a rookie to contribute to a starting line up. he wouldn't even need to carry an offensive load with him playing alongside kawhi, la, gasol.

[Chinook]

people on this site acting like it's impossible for a rookie to contribute to a starting line up. he wouldn't even need to carry an offensive load with him playing alongside kawhi, la, gasol.

Then what's the point? He's not good at anything else right now.

[dabom]

Then what's the point? He's not good at anything else right now.

He can get to the rim and is athletic you stupid fuck. :lmao

Did you fucking forget that "poverty nursery of forbes". :lmao

[dabom]

Also has "potential" unlike all our other fucking options. :lol

[K...]

Also has "potential" unlike all our other fucking options. :lol

He can have potential with the Toros.

[K...]

He can get to the rim and is athletic you stupid fuck. :lmao

Did you fucking forget that "poverty nursery of forbes". :lmao

Tony Parker can actually make shots at the rim, not as well as before but still he hits some shots.

[gambit1990]

Then what's the point? He's not good at anything else right now.
he's taller than parker, his wingspan is almost half a foot longer. capable of blocking shots. i'll take his defense and passing over tony's.

[dabom]

Tony Parker can actually make shots at the rim, not as well as before but still he hits some shots.

I guess you haven't seen the last 2 playoffs you stupd fuck. :lmao

How many more fast breaks turning into bricks or he stops the fastbreak because he can't get to the rim or playmake. :lmao

[Chinook]

he's taller than parker, his wingspan is almost half a foot longer. capable of blocking shots. i'll take his defense and passing over tony's.

He's a much worse passer and MUCH worse defender.

[dabom]

He's a much worse passer and MUCH worse defender.

No he ain't you stupid fuck. :lmao

Shitty posters. :lol

[TrainOfThought5]

If he improves at Kawhis rate we'll have something VERY special on our hands.

Remember Kawhi didnt have a rookie D-League, or much of a training camp.

[tonight...you]

Hes already on the record as saying he wants to get yelled at. He wants to get yelled at worse than Parker got yelled at.

I don't know if Pop has that energy in him nowadays. I remember he used to tan Parker's hide several times a game.

Ugly.

Pop has become a bit more Zen-like in his approach to the Game, it seems.
I'm anxious to see what he does with this lump of fine clay over the next two to three years.

[DPG21920]

No he ain't you stupid fuck. :lmao

Shitty posters. :lol

Man, you are a ridiculous poster. Of course he's a much worse passer and defender than TP and it's not close. That doesn't mean he sucks (although he does right now) long-term. He has a lot of potential but he's saw raw and as bad as TP might be DM is so much worse in the categories you listed (and pretty much everywhere except raw athleticism).

[dabom]

Man, you are a ridiculous poster. Of course he's a much worse passer and defender than TP and it's not close. That doesn't mean he sucks (although he does right now) long-term. He has a lot of potential but he's saw raw and as bad as TP might be DM is so much worse in the categories you listed (and pretty much everywhere except raw athleticism).

We ain't winning shit with Tony starting. Like ever again. I'd rather start the kid and live with that.

[DPG21920]

We ain't winning shit with Tony starting. Like ever again. I'd rather start the kid and live with that.

Well then your logic is really bad. If you don't think TP is good enough and he's clearly better than DM, starting DM would make the team worse.

[dabom]

Well then your logic is really bad. If you don't think TP is good enough and he's clearly better than DM, starting DM would make the team worse.

Obviously you being a Tony fan boy even though it was right in your fucking face he was trash for the last 2 years and it took you until recently and now you still fucking cant see it. It's you dude. It's that porker fanboyism screwing with you.

[DPG21920]

Obviously you being a Tony fan boy even though it was right in your fucking face he was trash for the last 2 years and it took you until recently and now you still fucking cant see it. It's you dude. It's that porker fanboyism screwing with you.

No - you are just being insanely dumb. There is zero chance you really believe DM is a better passer or defender than TP at the moment. If you do believe that, then there is really nothing left to say because that is just silly.

If you don't believe DM is better than TP at passing/defending then you already know starting DM would make the team worse.

[dabom]

No - you are just being insanely dumb. There is zero chance you really believe DM is a better passer or defender than TP at the moment. If you do believe that, then there is really nothing left to say because that is just silly.

If you don't believe DM is better than TP at passing/defending then you already know starting DM would make the team worse.

That's why you suck at evaluating talent.

[DPG21920]

Shhhhhh, girl

[dabom]

It's like 2 fucking years ago all over again, faggot. :lmao

[tonight...you]

That's why you suck at evaluating talent.
Not that I have, or want a bone in this debate (I find it interesting..), but that post didn't make any sense relating to his post.
If you could clarify the context, I personally would appreciate it.

[DPG21920]

That doesn't make any sense.

[dabom]

Not that I have, or want a bone in this debate (I find it interesting..), but that post didn't make any sense relating to his post.
If you could clarify the context, I personally would appreciate it.

dude has been slurping Tony even when he was trash. Still slurping him and is getting in the way of him evaluating DM.

[dabom]

Why should anyone take this guys word when he was fucking dead wrong about tony th past 2years. Anyone... :lmao

[DPG21920]

Huh?

[Chinook]

I love reading DPG's conversations with dabom. I have the letter on ignore, so I have no context for DPG's reactions. :lol

[dabom]

Your assessments are shit, faggot. :lmao

[dabom]

Chinook is a top 10 worst poster on here. Along with SAGirl. :lmao

Like no one takes that guy serious anymore.

[LongtimeSpursFan]

dude has been slurping Tony even when he was trash. Still slurping him and is getting in the way of him evaluating DM.


Why should anyone take this guys word when he was fucking dead wrong about tony th past 2years. Anyone... :lmao


It's like 2 fucking years ago all over again, faggot. :lmao


Obviously you being a Tony fan boy even though it was right in your fucking face he was trash for the last 2 years and it took you until recently and now you still fucking cant see it. It's you dude. It's that porker fanboyism screwing with you.


No he ain't you stupid fuck. :lmao

Shitty posters. :lol

You're annoying as heck.

[dabom]

You're annoying as heck.

Thanks for helping in summarizing. :tu

[sasaint]

Does anybody remember how bad Tony was as a rookie? He was a blur to the bucket, and he could feed Timmy in the post, and that is pretty much all. (As hard as Pop ripped him, it is pretty remarkable that he survived that first season.) And we still won 58 games. Part of me wishes that Pop would just throw Dijon out there and only resort to Tony if necessary - like a back-up pitcher. I'm just not sure how much worse Dijon could be than Tony was his rookie season. Just like It was very unlikely we were going to beat the Lakers that season, it is unlikely that we can overcome the Dubs this season. Circumstances are favorable to fast-track Dijon.

[Flawless]

Wow, we have come so far as spurs fans. lol you guys give up too fast on these young players.

[Flawless]

Thanks for helping in summarizing. :tu
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[DPG21920]

Does anybody remember how bad Tony was as a rookie? He was a blur to the bucket, and he could feed Timmy in the post, and that is pretty much all. (As hard as Pop ripped him, it is pretty remarkable that he survived that first season.) And we still won 58 games. Part of me wishes that Pop would just throw Dijon out there and only resort to Tony if necessary - like a back-up pitcher. I'm just not sure how much worse Dijon could be than Tony was his rookie season. Just like It was very unlikely we were going to beat the Lakers that season, it is unlikely that we can overcome the Dubs this season. Circumstances are favorable to fast-track Dijon.

There is really no reason to change a SL (especially with a 19 year old rookie that has a lot of flaws) that won 67 games. I know people focus on the result only but SA was right there in the OKC series and that was with the same TP you all hate.

Tim was hobbled and a huge reason why SA did not advance. SA replaced Tim with a better overall player in Pau. There is literally no reason to take TP out in favor of Murray. If SA had gotten another PG that would be fine but TP is so clearly the best PG on the team still and the team is going to be damn good.

[dabom]

If Tony ain't helping. He can get the fuck out. Like his past 2 playoffs.

[sasaint]

There is really no reason to change a SL (especially with a 19 year old rookie that has a lot of flaws) that won 67 games. I know people focus on the result only but SA was right there in the OKC series and that was with the same TP you all hate.

Tim was hobbled and a huge reason why SA did not advance. SA replaced Tim with a better overall player in Pau. There is literally no reason to take TP out in favor of Murray. If SA had gotten another PG that would be fine but TP is so clearly the best PG on the team still and the team is going to be damn good.

I don't hate TP. I just believe the stars are aligned well for this team to force-feed Dijon as Pop once force-fed TP. If we have to wait 2-3 years for Dijon to take over, LMA will be on the decline, and we will be facing contractual negotiations with him and Kawhi. I'd much rather have some young guys who are already productive surrounding Kawhi when other teams come a-poachin'.

[DPG21920]

I don't hate TP. I just believe the stars are aligned well for this team to force-feed Dijon as Pop once force-fed TP. If we have to wait 2-3 years for Dijon to take over, LMA will be on the decline, and we will be facing contractual negotiations with him and Kawhi. I'd much rather have some young guys who are already productive surrounding Kawhi when other teams come a-poachin'.

I'm saying I think the timing is really bad. There is no superstar like Tim to make up for a lot of flaws of a team (despite having really good LMA/Kawhi combo) and the SL with TP last year, that I think can be reasonably argued as improved this year, won a ton of games and will continue to.

There is no reason to force feed a young and inferior player when you are a top 5 team returning an improved SL that won 67 games. The ceiling is already championship level. It lowers the floor significantly IMO without raising the ceiling at all.

If you want to speed up Murray's curve you do that at the expense of Mills and any other back up guard (not Manu). You don't have to put him in the SL for no purpose other than you want to see less of TP.

[sasaint]

I'm saying I think the timing is really bad. There is no superstar like Tim to make up for a lot of flaws of a team (despite having really good LMA/Kawhi combo) and the SL with TP last year, that I think can be reasonably argued as improved this year, won a ton of games and will continue to.

There is no reason to force feed a young and inferior player when you are a top 5 team returning an improved SL that won 67 games. The ceiling is already championship level. It lowers the floor significantly IMO without raising the ceiling at all.

If you want to speed up Murray's curve you do that at the expense of Mills and any other back up guard (not Manu). You don't have to put him in the SL for no purpose other than you want to see less of TP.

We were a 58-win team in 2000 before Tony became a rookie starter in 2001. We won 58 games again. In the regular season, I don't place much greater stock in 67 wins in 2015-16 than I do 58 wins in 2000-01. Now that Tim is gone (maybe because he is gone) we need the future to arrive sooner rather than later. As much as I really do love Patty, he is not the future at PG. Neither is Tony.

[dabom]

Tony also did his regular "playoffs is about to start 'I better start sucking'" like the past 2 years. Dude is washed up. He can't even make a season without sucking ass in the playoffs. :lmao

[picnroll]

Parker dominated in his SL debut to the point Seattle offered to trade Payton for him and Boston was kicking themselves in the butts for letting their old fart Auerbach not draft him. Murray showed a little promise and a lot of warts in his SL debut. Dumbomb is retarded.

[SAGirl]

Does anybody remember how bad Tony was as a rookie? He was a blur to the bucket, and he could feed Timmy in the post, and that is pretty much all. (As hard as Pop ripped him, it is pretty remarkable that he survived that first season.) And we still won 58 games. Part of me wishes that Pop would just throw Dijon out there and only resort to Tony if necessary - like a back-up pitcher. I'm just not sure how much worse Dijon could be than Tony was his rookie season. Just like It was very unlikely we were going to beat the Lakers that season, it is unlikely that we can overcome the Dubs this season. Circumstances are favorable to fast-track Dijon.
Out of everything else with Dijon, and I like him a lot, his ballhandling right now is the most damnning. He had 9 TO games a few 7 TO games and a ton of 4 to 5 TO games in college. I'll find the article and share it later, but aside from everything else he still needs to improve on, the loose handle and the TO IMO is what will push him to the dleague.

Even in SL he lost the handle way too many times with very low ball pressure. He's simply too unreliable to play as a PG right now. I thought maybe playing him off the ball to start his career would be better, but he's a poor of the ball player bc he can't shoot and he's not a cutter, doesn't play like a wing.

He has a lot to work on. I see him in the dleague bc if the Spurs want him to develop his handle and decision making he needs to play with the ball as a playmaker and he won't get sufficient opportunities to do that in the team. And this is coming from someone who likes him.

I expect to see him the most his second season, unless there are injuries, same as other first round picks the team has had lately. Though, the caveat is that it's really up to him. There's no telling how quickly guys this young are still learning and he could learn so fast that by the end of this season he's earned trust from coach. It also depends how many blowout and rest games there are early and how he looks in those.

[tonight...you]

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Out of everything else with Dijon, and I like him a lot, his ballhandling right now is the most damnning. He had 9 TO games a few 7 TO games and a ton of 4 to 5 TO games in college. I'll find the article and share it later, but aside from everything else he still needs to improve on, the loose handle and the TO IMO is what will push him to the dleague.

Even in SL he lost the handle way too many times with very low ball pressure. He's simply too unreliable to play as a PG right now. I thought maybe playing him off the ball to start his career would be better, but he's a poor of the ball player bc he can't shoot and he's not a cutter, doesn't play like a wing.

He has a lot to work on. I see him in the dleague bc if the Spurs want him to develop his handle and decision making he needs to play with the ball as a playmaker and he won't get sufficient opportunities to do that in the team. And this is coming from someone who likes him.

I expect to see him the most his second season, unless there are injuries, same as other first round picks the team has had lately. Though, the caveat is that it's really up to him. There's no telling how quickly guys this young are still learning and he could learn so fast that by the end of this season he's earned trust from coach. It also depends how many blowout and rest games there are early and how he looks in those.
Valid. But do you mean "ballhandling" by his dribbling skills and his ability to go where he wants to go, or by his decision making with his passing?
I find the two called the same, but honestly, two different things.