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ducks
06-24-2016, 02:23 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/24/europe/scotland-eu-referendum/index.html

SnakeBoy
06-24-2016, 03:03 PM
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2bu9976Wc1qcfqrw.gif

RandomGuy
06-24-2016, 03:51 PM
I think your average Brit racist didn't factor that bit into their "out of the EU" vote.

Whoops.

Winehole23
06-24-2016, 07:17 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cb72V3sUMAA806v.jpg

CosmicCowboy
06-24-2016, 08:01 PM
England could do better without Scotland than Scotland could do without England.

With the North sea "easy" oil play gone and $50 oil the new norm economically it pretty well sucks to be Scotland.

fmedrano1977
06-24-2016, 08:23 PM
Won't be their first time, they just had a vote about 2 years ago.

CosmicCowboy
06-24-2016, 08:40 PM
Caddies at Ayrshire are Scotlands version of Boos hated 1% ers.

CosmicCowboy
06-24-2016, 08:55 PM
Hmmm. Should I have put that in blue?

Venti Quattro
06-24-2016, 09:32 PM
Won't be their first time, they just had a vote about 2 years ago.

They voted to remain in the UK on the premise that their EU status would be preserved. Now that's out of the window, it's a free-for all.

Even Northern Ireland wants to reunite with the Republic now...

FuzzyLumpkins
06-24-2016, 11:52 PM
England could do better without Scotland than Scotland could do without England.

With the North sea "easy" oil play gone and $50 oil the new norm economically it pretty well sucks to be Scotland.

Or they could do better with the EU than they could be with Britain because that is why they would be leaving: to rejoin the EU.

SnakeBoy
06-25-2016, 12:17 AM
In other words, the EU might be gaining another shitty economy to support.

velik_m
06-25-2016, 04:24 AM
Sexit?

Clipper Nation
06-25-2016, 09:58 AM
Good for them. I hope they grow a pair and go independent, but unfortunately, they're still an über-liberal welfare state that lives off handouts from Britain. They'll talk tough about seceding like they do every other year, but they'll never go through with it for real.

Winehole23
06-25-2016, 10:19 AM
Scotland's vote was nearly 60% remain. I doubt the SNP or any of their rivals dismiss the prospect of another referendum on Scottish independence as lightly as you do.

CosmicCowboy
06-25-2016, 10:29 AM
I'm sure Deutsche bank will be happy to loan Scotland all the money it needs to keep the welfare state going if it votes to stay. They can be the new Greece.

Winehole23
06-25-2016, 10:40 AM
or, Scotland could kick its own pensioners and slugabeds in the nuts. they've already been considering the question:

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-36621030

Clipper Nation
06-25-2016, 10:53 AM
Scotland's vote was nearly 60% remain. I doubt the SNP or any of their rivals dismiss the prospect of another referendum on Scottish independence as lightly as you do.
I'm not dismissing the chance of another referendum. I'm sure they'll hold one. I just doubt that Scotland will ever actually vote in favor of secession. They'll talk a big game, but when push comes to shove and their handouts are on the line, they'll vote to stay in the UK.

Winehole23
06-25-2016, 11:09 AM
why?

Clipper Nation
06-25-2016, 12:05 PM
why?
Because as long as the socialists are in charge to run Scotland into the ground, they're fucked if they get off the teat, and they know it. I suppose they could just start leeching off of Germany instead if they got into the EU, but it's not like that's guaranteed to happen even if they secede.

Blizzardwizard
06-25-2016, 05:02 PM
Good for them. I hope they grow a pair and go independent, but unfortunately, they're still an über-liberal welfare state that lives off handouts from Britain. They'll talk tough about seceding like they do every other year, but they'll never go through with it for real.

What? :lol

Scotland will have a second referendum and be gone in the next two years. They deserve it, since they were smart enough unlike Wales and England to not fall into the rightwingnut 'dey took er jerbs' populist propoganda and actually voted in.

Reck
06-25-2016, 08:03 PM
LOL Cosmicgayboy talking out of his ass again. :lol

CosmicCowboy
06-26-2016, 12:28 AM
As usual, Reck can't come up with an intelligent post so just throws more monkey shit. Must suck to be a jealous stupid loser..

dbestpro
06-26-2016, 12:47 PM
Scotland should tread lightly. If more countries drop the EU, Scotland could find itself begging to rejoin the UK.

ElNono
06-26-2016, 12:58 PM
Scotland should tread lightly. If more countries drop the EU, Scotland could find itself begging to rejoin the UK.

You could make the same argument about the UK:

The UK should tread lightly. If more countries become independent and join the EU, the UK could find itself begging to rejoin the EU.

rmt
06-26-2016, 04:46 PM
You could make the same argument about the UK:

The UK should tread lightly. If more countries become independent and join the EU, the UK could find itself begging to rejoin the EU.

More likely it'll be as Trump said - more countries leaving the EU - Switzerland withdraws longstanding application to join EU (BEFORE BREXIT):

https://www.rt.com/news/346884-switzerland-eu-membership-application-rejected/

Seems to me that the richer countries don't want to foot the bill for nations like Greece, Spain, Portugal, and Italy which are in financial trouble.

Venti Quattro
06-26-2016, 05:14 PM
The UK should tread lightly. If more countries become independent and join the EU, the UK could find itself begging to rejoin the EU.
Or France could secede from the EU next

CosmicCowboy
06-26-2016, 05:23 PM
They are all looking at those additional 2.5 million refugees across the border in Turkey.

ElNono
06-26-2016, 05:34 PM
Seems to me that the richer countries don't want to foot the bill for nations like Greece, Spain, Portugal, and Italy which are in financial trouble.

Those richer countries are making out like bandits both by bailing out those countries with loans and making sure none of those countries put them at a competitive disadvantage.

How are Germany or France going to remain competitive if any of these countries break out and devalue their currency? This is economics 101, the EU is simply much more powerful as a group than as individual countries.

Reck
06-26-2016, 09:19 PM
Those richer countries are making out like bandits both by bailing out those countries with loans and making sure none of those countries put them at a competitive disadvantage.

How are Germany or France going to remain competitive if any of these countries break out and devalue their currency? This is economics 101, the EU is simply much more powerful as a group than as individual countries.

rtm got her info from a super realible source. She's right.

CosmicCowboy
06-26-2016, 09:37 PM
Reck bringing the dumbass as usual.

Who gives a fuck if Greece devalues their currency? Olive oil and craft goods are cheaper?

They aren't going to put Volkwagen out of business and they just got a lot more expensive in Greece with a devalued currency.

Now all the loans from European banks that's another story. Deutsche might actually have to produce an honest balance sheet that reflects loans that will never be repaid.

ElNono
06-26-2016, 09:59 PM
Reck bringing the dumbass as usual.

Who gives a fuck if Greece devalues their currency? Olive oil and craft goods are cheaper?

They aren't going to put Volkwagen out of business and they just got a lot more expensive in Greece with a devalued currency.

Now all the loans from European banks that's another story. Deutsche might actually have to produce an honest balance sheet that reflects loans that will never be repaid.

Volkswagen won't think twice to go manufacture on cheap labor. Heck, probably half of their cars are Made in China already. That's how globalization works.

Winehole23
06-27-2016, 07:08 AM
They are all looking at those additional 2.5 million refugees across the border in Turkey.Schengen is already falling apart. A number of countries have reinstituted border controls.

RandomGuy
06-27-2016, 08:14 AM
England could do better without Scotland than Scotland could do without England.

With the North sea "easy" oil play gone and $50 oil the new norm economically it pretty well sucks to be Scotland.

That's not what the Scots think.