The End Of Hope: White Americans in the NBA..

[HarlemHeat37]

Hope you guys enjoy this piece, tbh..should hit close to home..

https://thecauldron.si.com/the-end-of-hope-whiteness-and-the-profound-stigma-of-race-in-the-n-b-a-46c87999a30e#.4u3zwgo3a

[Splits]

Congrats on getting published

[tonight...you]

Hope you guys enjoy this piece, tbh..should hit close to home..

https://thecauldron.si.com/the-end-of-hope-whiteness-and-the-profound-stigma-of-race-in-the-n-b-a-46c87999a30e#.4u3zwgo3a
Yay racism! In all it's forms! One side's racism is better than another's!
Harlem, you are a bringer together of souls.

Good on you.

[spurraider21]

Consumed with the obsession of trolling

[apalisoc_9]

Hope we dont ever see whote people in sports again. Its a travesty.

[Leetonidas]

don't see any problems tbh. best players are black and best coaches are white. makes sense

[Silver&Black]

Stopped reading after "Writer and co-author of Slugg: A Boy's Life in the Day of Mass Incarceration"

[K...]

That article says Bird was a mother fucking bad ass who was post racial. Bird shits on OP from his retirement home.

The premise of the article is that white talent is being suppressed by society. It's reverse discrimination, whites get better sports job like quarterback and lacrosse bitch. If whites wanted to take the nba seriously we;d see more talent. Tall white men go into football at nearly 100% for positions like QB, TE, and WR.

in economics its called competitive analysis.

[resistanze]

:lol People in this thread angry without reading was article was about

[tonight...you]

Hope we dont ever see whote people in sports again. Its a travesty.
Racist. Good job, Canadian. Keep the Hope alive.

[tonight...you]

That article says Bird was a mother fucking bad ass who was post racial. Bird shits on OP from his retirement home.

The premise of the article is that white talent is being suppressed by society. It's reverse discrimination, whites get better sports job like quarterback and lacrosse bitch. If whites wanted to take the nba seriously we;d see more talent. Tall white men go into football at nearly 100% for positions like QB, TE, and WR.

in economics its called competitive analysis.
No. White people today are a travesty, like blacks in the 50's and 60's.
Keep the racism alive.
Maybe a white Jackie Robinson will emerge, but he will be hated upon like blacks back then in this new age of the Digital Anonymous.

[tonight...you]

Hope we dont ever see whote people in sports again. Its a travesty.
And Go Vegan! It's great for athletics!

[313]

Congrats on getting published

[313]

Only read about half of it, Kevin, but what I did read was pretty interesting. :tu

[Trill Clinton]

:lol People in this thread angry without reading was article was about

[ambchang]

Why did op post an article that is contradictory of his entire troll repertoire?

Larry bird was a top 10 player for sure maybe top 5
White American players are no longer superstars because of social stigma, which submarines the entire point of 80s being bad basketball because there were so many white American players.

[daslicer]

The author of the article made a good point when he stated the reasons Euro's are better than White Americans is because of their mindset and not physical talent. This is the point I have argued for a while when the OP runs his typical shtick of "80's and 90's basketball sucked compared to now because they had more white american players." These 80's and 90's White American ballers had the same mindset as the current Euro ballers and hence were at the same level talent wise.

[spurraider21]

:lol People in this thread angry without reading was article was about
how many people here are angry? :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

I hope RC stays the fuck away from Miles Plumlee :lol

[DAF86]

Only reason why Americans can't produce good white players is 'cause their fundamentals teaching sucks. Basketball in the US is more about athletics, isos, Jordan; whereas anywhere else is more about skills, tactics and team ball.

American blackmen overcome these shitty training habits because they're naturally more athletic. While the whites from anywhere else benefit from the focus on skills and fundamentals.

[DMC]

Consumed with the obsession of trolling
Is he consumed with the obsession or is he consumed with trolling thus it's an obsession? The former would make him more of a psychiatrist while the latter would make him just a troll.

[HarlemHeat37]

Why did op post an article that is contradictory of his entire troll repertoire?

Larry bird was a top 10 player for sure maybe top 5
White American players are no longer superstars because of social stigma, which submarines the entire point of 80s being bad basketball because there were so many white American players.

I don't agree with the primary point in the article, but unlike you and the poster below you, I actually consider other view points:lol

It's an entertaining and interesting article, which is why I posted it..I figured most of you would enjoy it, particularly the Whites and Asians among you..

Realistically speaking, I love White people, but White Americans just aren't good at basketball, tbh..ain't no shame in that, it just isn't their thing..the 80s was the equivalent of throwing a bunch of Arabs and Mexicans in the NBA next season:lol

[MarCowMar]

I barely mustered the will to click the link, but I cannot bring myself to care.

[HarlemHeat37]

That article says Bird was a mother fucking bad ass who was post racial. Bird shits on OP from his retirement home.

The premise of the article is that white talent is being suppressed by society. It's reverse discrimination, whites get better sports job like quarterback and lacrosse bitch. If whites wanted to take the nba seriously we;d see more talent. Tall white men go into football at nearly 100% for positions like QB, TE, and WR.

in economics its called competitive analysis.

The more I watch Larry Bird on YouTube, the less impressed I am, tbh..I'm not into conspiracy theories, I usually find them very silly, but I think there's some dirt in the 80s, re: brothers being forced to go easy on Bird..the league had hit rock bottom, ratings were horrible, etc, and then all of a sudden this physically limited White boy starts dominating the NBA:lol

[K...]

No. White people today are a travesty, like blacks in the 50's and 60's.
Keep the racism alive.
Maybe a white Jackie Robinson will emerge, but he will be hated upon like blacks back then in this new age of the Digital Anonymous.

I think there actually is the beginning of white anti privilege. You see it in colleges where whites are considered unable to match other cultures in grievances. Elite white men are as loaded as ever, but the average whites are more subordinate to other races, they are no longer guaranteed privilege.. Thus you see frustration of young white men with the new order.

Men these days no longer have guaruntees of sex, upward mobility, or jobs. And that sucks for them.


It's all kinds of sad.

[tonight...you]

I think there actually is the beginning of white anti privilege. You see it in colleges where whites are considered unable to match other cultures in grievances. Elite white men are as loaded as ever, but the average whites are more subordinate to other races, they are no longer guaranteed privilege.. Thus you see frustration of young white men with the new order.

Men these days no longer have guaruntees of sex, upward mobility, or jobs. And that sucks for them.


It's all kinds of sad.
In the grand scheme, I'm not going to lie: minorities in America still have it rough from all fronts in comparison to the white person.
But there is some truth to your words.

And it is all sad. And stupid.

[spurraider21]

Is he consumed with the obsession or is he consumed with trolling thus it's an obsession? The former would make him more of a psychiatrist while the latter would make him just a troll.
It's not my diagnosis. It's how he describes himself

[Kawhitstorm]

The more I watch Larry Bird on YouTube, the less impressed I am, tbh..I'm not into conspiracy theories, I usually find them very silly, but I think there's some dirt in the 80s, re: brothers being forced to go easy on Bird..the league had hit rock bottom, ratings were horrible, etc, and then all of a sudden this physically limited White boy starts dominating the NBA:lol

Bird: NBA 'a black man's game'
KNIGHTSTOWN, Ind. -- Larry Bird says he wants to see more white superstars in the NBA, but the legendary former Celtic has also revealed that nothing in basketball bothered him more than being guarded by another white player.Bird made the comments during an ESPN special that will air Thursday at 7 p.m. ET featuring Bird's longtime rival, Magic Johnson, and rookies LeBron James and Carmelo Anthony. The one-hour discussion is called "Two on Two."ESPN host Jim Gray asked Bird whether the NBA lacks enough white superstars."Well, I think so," said Bird, the Indiana Pacers' president of basketball operations. "You know, when I played, you had me and Kevin [McHale] and some others throughout the league. I think it's good for a fan base because, as we all know, the majority of the fans are white America. And if you just had a couple of white guys in there, you might get them a little excited. But it is a black man's game, and it will be forever. I mean, the greatest athletes in the world are African-American."Johnson, a Lakers part owner, quickly added: "We need some more LBs -- Larry Birds. ... Larry Bird, you see, can go into any neighborhood. When you say 'Larry Bird,' black people know who he is, Hispanics, whites, and they give him the respect."Cleveland's James and Denver's Anthony, both 19, were also asked about race during the sitdown, which took place in the tiny gym used as Hickory High's homecourt in the movie "Hoosiers."Asked by Gray if race is an issue in the NBA, James said: "I don't think so. I think the fans look at the game, [they're] not looking at the race. [They're] looking who can play basketball. Or who's athletic. ... When you [were] a kid and you used to go outside, it didn't matter who was the best player in the league. If Bird was my favorite player, I'm out shooting threes. ... If Magic was my [favorite] player, I'm out there throwing my best passes. It's not the race issue. If you can play the game of basketball, you know fans are gonna love you."Said Anthony: "Race is not an issue. Where I'm from, people love the Yao Mings, the Dirks, the Pejas. They love them guys. I don't think race is an issue right now."Yet later in the discussion, Bird described being guarded by another white in his prime as "disrespect.""The one thing that always bothered me when I played in the NBA was I really got irritated when they put a white guy on me," Bird said. "I still don't understand why. A white guy would come out (and) I would always ask him: 'What, do you have a problem with your coach? Did your coach do this to you?' And he'd go, 'No,' and I'd say, 'Come on, you got a white guy coming out here to guard me; you got no chance.' ... For some reason, that always bothered me when I was playing against a white guy."As far as playing, I didn't care who guarded me -- red, yellow, black," Bird added. "I just didn't want a white guy guarding me. Because it's disrespect to my game."Said Magic: "His game, you see, Larry Bird was the only [white] guy that was mentioned in the barbershop. ...'Cause that's where all the talking in our community is, the barbershop or on the playground."Bird has declined to comment further, according to a Pacers spokesman, and NBA commissioner David Stern said he would reserve comment until seeing the entire interview.

[midnightpulp]

The article wasn't racist at all, but the writer and those like him desiring to see a white American NBA superstar are going to have accept that basketball is typically a white American kid's 4th or 5th sport after baseball, football, hockey (if the kid grows up in a colder state), and even now behind soccer, unfortunately. Combine this with the horrible player development at the youth levels, and there's little chance of producing a Great White American Hope.

It's somewhat true that a white kid might not pursue basketball because it's a "game for brothers," and he quits before he tries because he believes he can't compete with black players who are just naturally more athletic, but it has more to do with the fact that baseball and football are just more culturally relevant in white America than basketball is, much the same way baseball and hockey are culturally irrelevant in black America.

[ambchang]

I don't agree with the primary point in the article, but unlike you and the poster below you, I actually consider other view points:lol

It's an entertaining and interesting article, which is why I posted it..I figured most of you would enjoy it, particularly the Whites and Asians among you..

Realistically speaking, I love White people, but White Americans just aren't good at basketball, tbh..ain't no shame in that, it just isn't their thing..the 80s was the equivalent of throwing a bunch of Arabs and Mexicans in the NBA next season:lol

But the article basically do not agree with your assertions previously. So you are basically arguing with yourself here.

I do consider other viewpoints, but players fundamental DNAs altering for superior athleticism over the span of 30 years isn't one of them.

[ambchang]

The more I watch Larry Bird on YouTube, the less impressed I am, tbh..I'm not into conspiracy theories, I usually find them very silly, but I think there's some dirt in the 80s, re: brothers being forced to go easy on Bird..the league had hit rock bottom, ratings were horrible, etc, and then all of a sudden this physically limited White boy starts dominating the NBA:lol

Throwing another one on the wall and see if it sticks, eh?

[Clipper Nation]

The more I watch Larry Bird on YouTube, the less impressed I am, tbh..I'm not into conspiracy theories, I usually find them very silly, but I think there's some dirt in the 80s, re: brothers being forced to go easy on Bird..the league had hit rock bottom, ratings were horrible, etc, and then all of a sudden this physically limited White boy starts dominating the NBA:lol
Truth bomb, tbh. The only players who were allowed to guard Bird for real were Michael Cooper (that "Lakers" logo across his chest trumped his skin color in the eyes of the league office) and fellow white Americans like Bobby Jones. And he'd shit his pants against them.

Seeing a black man like Robert Reid - who didn't play for one of their favored franchises - shut down and expose Bird in the 1981 Finals clearly scared the hell out of the league and its marketing machine. So they started making black players take it easy on their cash-cow.

Isiah was right: if Bird was black, he'd be just another player.

[Spurtacular]

Congrats on getting published

:lmao

[Spurtacular]

TBH though, this is the worst quality of white players in league history.

[Spurtacular]

Truth bomb, tbh. The only players who were allowed to guard Bird for real were Michael Cooper (that "Lakers" logo across his chest trumped his skin color in the eyes of the league office) and fellow white Americans like Bobby Jones. And he'd shit his pants against them.

Seeing a black man like Robert Reid - who didn't play for one of their favored franchises - shut down and expose Bird in the 1981 Finals clearly scared the hell out of the league and its marketing machine. So they started making black players take it easy on their cash-cow.

Isiah was right: if Bird was black, he'd be just another player.

That is the biggest load of sh**. You'd have to be a racist to even come close to believing that nonsense.

[lefty]

The more I watch Larry Bird on YouTube, the less impressed I am, tbh..I'm not into conspiracy theories, I usually find them very silly, but I think there's some dirt in the 80s, re: brothers being forced to go easy on Bird..the league had hit rock bottom, ratings were horrible, etc, and then all of a sudden this physically limited White boy starts dominating the NBA:lol


Truth bomb, tbh. The only players who were allowed to guard Bird for real were Michael Cooper (that "Lakers" logo across his chest trumped his skin color in the eyes of the league office) and fellow white Americans like Bobby Jones. And he'd shit his pants against them.

Seeing a black man like Robert Reid - who didn't play for one of their favored franchises - shut down and expose Bird in the 1981 Finals clearly scared the hell out of the league and its marketing machine. So they started making black players take it easy on their cash-cow.

Isiah was right: if Bird was black, he'd be just another player.
:lol SMH

[I. Hustle]

That article says Bird was a mother fucking bad ass who was post racial. Bird shits on OP from his retirement home.

The premise of the article is that white talent is being suppressed by society. It's reverse discrimination, whites get better sports job like quarterback and lacrosse bitch. If whites wanted to take the nba seriously we;d see more talent. Tall white men go into football at nearly 100% for positions like QB, TE, and WR.

in economics its called competitive analysis.

LMMFAO Lacrosse?

[Clipper Nation]

That is the biggest load of sh**. You'd have to be a racist to even come close to believing that nonsense.
Real talk: your boy Jimmer is what Bird would have looked like if Stern didn't order the black players to go easy on him. Actually, Jimmer is what Bird would look like in today's league, with or without the reverse Affirmative Action from the league office :lol

[lefty]

Real talk: your boy Jimmer is what Bird would have looked like if Stern didn't order the black players to go easy on him. Actually, Jimmer is what Bird would look like in today's league, with or without the reverse Affirmative Action from the league office :lol
:lol okayyyyy ....let's not get carried away

[Spurtacular]

Real talk: your boy Jimmer is what Bird would have looked like if Stern didn't order the black players to go easy on him. Actually, Jimmer is what Bird would look like in today's league, with or without the reverse Affirmative Action from the league office :lol

If you want to put out nutball conspiracy theories, have at, bro.

[Clipper Nation]

:lol okayyyyy ....let's not get carried away
:lol Yesterday's NBA

[Spurtacular]

:lol Yesterday's NBA

You know you're retarded when lefty is telling you you went too far, tbh.

[Brazil]

I don't agree with the primary point in the article, but unlike you and the poster below you, I actually consider other view points:lol

It's an entertaining and interesting article, which is why I posted it..I figured most of you would enjoy it, particularly the Whites and Asians among you..

Realistically speaking, I love White people, but White Americans just aren't good at basketball, tbh..ain't no shame in that, it just isn't their thing..the 80s was the equivalent of throwing a bunch of Arabs and Mexicans in the NBA next season:lol

Article seems to be vastly flawed for at least two reasons

- He lost me with Nash... So US different of Europe blabla, Europe more whites blabla, so Nash is suddenly a Euro ? I don't believe in Canadian High School (especially in english speaking part) there is much of a difference in terms of culture or syndrom of if I'm white I cannot play BB. Nash is quite typical of the white "american" playing basketball
- Then He wish a white lead a team to a title to break mental barrier... Dirk did just that... lead a team to a title being a non athletic white dude but the mental barrier is not broken because he's german ? what nationality has to do with that ? stupid ass line of thinking. Jordan, US citizen, inspired bunch of people all over the world but Dirk cannot inspire white people ?

There is nothing racist in saying black have different athletic abilities and more suited to play bb. Then as people are not stupid they tend to choose the sport where you can maximize your success rate. This is particularly true in US where sport is a way to finance studies. European students are less specialized, they try a bit of everything because their success in school don't depend on the way they perform on sports. Kinda crazy to see you can suck at school but go in top school because you are good at basketball. Go in La Sorbonne in Paris with a poor academic file saying I suck at school but damn I can play for your soccer team.... they will laugh at you :lol

[lefty]

La Sorbonne is kinda overhyped tbh

[Brazil]

La Sorbonne is kinda overhyped tbh

surely but then again they don't give a shit if you play basketball or not

[lefty]

surely but then again they don't give a shit if you play basketball or not
obviously not since it's filled with unathletics white cucks

[AlexJones]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fJ923CZwU4

Harlem is New Jack and everyone else itt is Gypsy Joe

[Brazil]

obviously not since it's filled with unathletics white cucks

thanks for making my point

and sorry you surely hoped I studied there but no :lol

[lefty]

and sorry you surely hoped I studied there but no :lol
:lol