More LMAO'ing at povertyball.

[midnightpulp]

Get this, a team in this povertyball tournament the whole world is apparently following has reached the semi-finals by only winning 1 game outright. Their other 4 games were ties. :lmao

"Greatest sport in the world." :lol
"The beautiful game." :lol

[Gummi Clutch]

Its pretty fucking stupid, but what's worse is that "its cool now" and all these shit head kids are playing it

[midnightpulp]

Its pretty fucking stupid, but what's worse is that "its cool now" and all these shit head kids are playing it

They'll get bored of it. I lived through the "Pele is gonna make soccer huge in the States" era, and it seemed every kid was signing up for AYSO en masse.

I agree the influx of Mexicans will make it slightly more popular, but it won't be overtaking the NHL anytime soon.

[HarlemHeat37]

It's a little boring to watch, at times, but very fun to play, tbh..

[TampaDude]

It's a little boring to watch, at times, but very fun to play, tbh..

+1

[InRareForm]

Portugal is the team the OP failed to list.

[Kawhitstorm]

The 9-7 Giants won the SB twice as a wildcard team.:lol

[Clipper Nation]

The 9-7 Giants won the SB twice as a wildcard team.:lol
They actually had to win all their playoff games to be champions - not just tie them. They were 10-6 in 2007, BTW.

:lol Illegalalienball

[DPG21920]

It's an amazing sport. :lmao American sports where players are so dumb (football) and fat (baseball) they have to be told what to do every play/second (football, baseball & basketball).

Soccer is the beautiful game because it's free flowing and a bunch of in-shape athletic guys *gasp* get to display skill and make their own decisions without Rex Ryan yelling at them to run in a pre-determined line because they're idiots :lol

[Clipper Nation]

It's an amazing sport. :lmao American sports where players are so dumb (football) and fat (baseball) they have to be told what to do every play/second (football, baseball & basketball).
Football and baseball require a brain to play, which eliminates most of the Eurotrash. Third-world kickball isn't even a sport, it's a glorified schoolyard game. No different than professional hopscotch or professional Wiffleball :lol


Soccer is the beautiful game because it's free flowing and a bunch of in-shape athletic guys *gasp* get to display skill and make their own decisions without Rex Ryan yelling at them to run in a pre-determined line because they're idiots :lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4nMnNN93nM

[Kawhitstorm]

They actually had to win all their playoff games to be champions - not just tie them. They were 10-6 in 2007, BTW.


Dumbass, ONLY the knockout stages are the equivalent of a playoff & there is no such thing as a tie in a knockout stage which was why they had the penalty shootout. The group stages are the equivalent of an NFL regular season where a team w/ a mediocre record could make it to the playoff if they play in a weak division.

Last I checked there are ties in the REGULAR season even in the NFL & teams depend on kickers to win games.:lol

[Clipper Nation]

Dumbass, ONLY the knockout stages are the equivalent of a playoff & there is no such thing as a tie in a knockout stage. The group stages are the equivalent of an NFL regular season where a team w/ a mediocre record could make it to the playoff if they play in a weak division.
Dumbass, the NFL playoffs are a tournament that crowns a champion - just like the Europoors and the Third-World Cup.


Last I checked there are ties in the REGULAR season even in the NFL.:lol
Last I checked, the regular season isn't the playoffs.

[DPG21920]

Football and baseball require a brain to play, which eliminates most of the Eurotrash. Third-world kickball isn't even a sport, it's a glorified schoolyard game. No different than professional hopscotch or professional Wiffleball :lol

Football and baseball require a brain :lmao. You get trained like a dog to do the same things over and over and all you have to do is the pre-determined activity the coach tells you to do. Baseball, you literally stand around and even then you have to have a coach to tell you whether or not to run to home plate :lol



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4nMnNN93nM

:lol you post a YouTube of a fat guy who's not even a soccer player when I can post video of the "best" athletes in baseball paid 100's of millions to be fat, dip while they play and get paid to do something only 33% of the time :lol

[Splits]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4nMnNN93nM


That guy could be the HR champ, perennial all star, and multimillionaire in American Cricket

[Clipper Nation]

That guy could be the HR champ, perennial all star, and multimillionaire in American Cricket
That guy could start on any international kickball team. He's way better than that midget who can't even make a penalty kick that everyone says is the GOAT.

:lol Mexiball
:lol Only "sport" where a MIDGET can be the GOAT

[Splits]

http://giant.gfycat.com/UniqueDesertedCat.gif
http://i.makeagif.com/media/10-12-2015/Ac1dqh.gif

:lol this obese fat fuck is one of the best "athletes" in American Cricket
:lol makes $24m/year

[Clipper Nation]

http://giant.gfycat.com/UniqueDesertedCat.gif
http://i.makeagif.com/media/10-12-2015/Ac1dqh.gif

:lol this obese fat fuck is one of the best "athletes" in American Cricket
:lol makes $24m/year
Having a MIDGET as the face of your "sport" trumps it.

[Caltex2]

Portugal is the team the OP failed to list.

Portugal hasn't won a single game actually, at least based on a quick glance at Wikipedia. Even in the playoff/knockout stage, they won on penalty kicks after a draw. That's like tying half of your NBA games then winning in the playoffs on a 3-point shootout after 2-3 OT's. :lol Not really but that's close enough.

[Kawhitstorm]

Dumbass, the NFL playoffs are a tournament that crowns a champion

Dumbass, there are no group stages in the NFL b/c there is such a thing as a "Regular Season" which isn't a tournament.:lol



Last I checked, the regular season isn't the playoffs.

Last I checked the team that beat the 16-0 Patriots wouldn't have been in the playoffs if it wasn't for a gimmicky wildcard spot.:lol

[Kawhitstorm]

Portugal hasn't won a single game actually, at least based on a quick glance at Wikipedia. Even in the playoff/knockout stage, they won on penalty kicks after a draw. That's like tying half of your NBA games then winning in the playoffs on a 3-point shootout after 2-3 OT's. :lol Not really but that's close enough.

It's actually the equivalent of winning a football game on a field-goal.:lol (Adam Vinatieri won two SBs w/ his foot)

The 2001 SB champs won 2 of their 3 playoff games w/ a FG.:lmao

[Caltex2]

It's actually the equivalent of winning a football game on a field-goal.:lol (Adam Vinatieri won two SBs w/ his foot)

It's like making the playoffs after 16 draws and more wins than your division opponents then winning your playoff game after an OT tie on field goal kicks. That's the comparison.

[Splits]

Having a MIDGET as the face of your "sport" trumps it.

Having to earthquake-proof your stadium in Texas because the guy who participates in 4 plays in a 4 hour game trips over a pillow sitting on the dirt or can't climb an 18" gate trumps that.

[Kawhitstorm]

It's like making the playoffs after 16 draws and more wins than your division opponents then winning your playoff game after an OT tie on field goal kicks. That's the comparison.

As if the NFL's regular season is a 3 game round robin.:lol

[Clipper Nation]

Having to earthquake-proof your stadium in Texas because the guy who participates in 4 plays in a 4 hour game trips over a pillow sitting on the dirt or can't climb an 18" gate trumps that.
:lmao Midgetball

[Splits]

:lmao Midgetball

:lmao Obeseball

[K...]

Soo doo y'all ever think y'all have run out of arguments in this soccer vs stickball shit slinging fest?

I already said soccer would score goals as 3pts and give penalty kicks with 1 pt for most penalties.

Baseball should not count outs. Just have an inning end after 16 pitches. Offense can send anyone up to bat and can pull them off bat as well. Basically more like the Pokemon card game.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

Soccer is basically just a bunch of give and go's trying to catch the defender sleeping, child's play.
Now football, that's a chess match. Reading a defense, calling audibles, dozens of formations, 1000s of plays to learn and imposing your physical will on another human being. Nothing quite like it.

[Thebesteva]

Its a beautiful game...not really a huge soccer fan but it is. Its just all that flopping I hate which is why it sneaking into the NBA pisses me off.

When I was younger I hated that most games were low scoring...as I got older the thrill became how crucial it is to score 1 goal and all the oh shit that was close moments. It's not an American type sport tho

[midnightpulp]

It boggles my mind that soccer fans can defend the penalty kick/penalty shootout dynamic.

When goals are at such a premium in soccer, it's highly fuckin' stupid to basically give a team a 90% chance of scoring just because a player was fouled in the box. In many of those cases, the player wasn't even in an advantageous scoring position.

And Jesus Christ, penalty shootouts. Imagine ending a basketball game after the 2nd overtime or something on a 3 point contest. Or ending a baseball game after the 12th inning on a home run derby. A penalty shootout barely resembles the core gameplay of soccer, but yet it's used to decide important matches. And it's used A LOT since soccer ends in a tie 50% of the fuckin' time.

"Well, if they didn't use shootouts, the game could on forever and players would die or something."

And that exactly illustrates the problem with soccer. That it can conceivable go on forever without a team scoring, so you're forced to end it with some arbitrary minigame.

Sorry. Soccer's gameplay design is absolutely horrid.

[midnightpulp]

http://giant.gfycat.com/UniqueDesertedCat.gif
http://i.makeagif.com/media/10-12-2015/Ac1dqh.gif

:lol this obese fat fuck is one of the best "athletes" in American Cricket
:lol makes $24m/year

No he isn't actually.

Here's one, though.

http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/73955164/v865289483/chccin-hamilton-hits-233-mph-on-steal-of-second/?query=billy%2Bhamilton

Faster than any povertyball player on planet Earth, 23.3 mph :wow

[Robz4000]

:lol thirdworldball

[midnightpulp]

Football and baseball require a brain :lmao. You get trained like a dog to do the same things over and over and all you have to do is the pre-determined activity the coach tells you to do. Baseball, you literally stand around and even then you have to have a coach to tell you whether or not to run to home plate :lol



:lol you post a YouTube of a fat guy who's not even a soccer player when I can post video of the "best" athletes in baseball paid 100's of millions to be fat, dip while they play and get paid to do something only 33% of the time :lol

You guys are still using the shitty meme that the "best baseball players" are fat?

They aren't.

And I've already definitely proven that generally speaking, baseball players are more all around athletic than soccer players. Just because there's a few fat players playing specialized positions doesn't change that fact.

Mike Trout is 6'2" 230lb, and runs faster and jumps higher than that Ken Doll looking faggot Ronaldo.

And since when does a coach tell a player how to hit a pitch from the dugout?

Hitting major league pitching is all about "using your brain."


So, back to you now in the batter's box. You can at least take comfort in knowing that the pitcher you're facing only has a few pitches: a fastball, a changeup, and maybe a slider or a curveball. You've practiced hitting each of those pitches thousands of times during your career, and can draw on your knowledge of those at-bats. There are also cues like the pitcher's arm speed and the rotation of the ball that help you make an educated guess about what pitch is coming. You may need to get used to a pitcher's speed, but you have a decent idea of where the ball is going

And for fielding:


Like hitting, fielding also seems like it should be a mental and physical impossibility -- which makes it fascinating to psychology researchers. If you put a player in the outfield and make him stay put, he is actually quite bad at predicting where a ball is going to land, yet he will run effortlessly to that spot when allowed to do so. How?

One of the first theories developed to explain fly-ball catching was developed by physicist Seville Chapman, who hypothesized that fielders used the acceleration of the ball to help them determine where the ball will land.

[Splits]

No he isn't actually.

Here's one, though.

http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/73955164/v865289483/chccin-hamilton-hits-233-mph-on-steal-of-second/?query=billy%2Bhamilton

Faster than any povertyball player on planet Earth, 23.3 mph :wow

Fat Fielder is the 10th highest paid player in a league of over 700 players :lmao

And :cry the game could go on forever :cry yet you'd rather watch a bunch of fat fucks play with their dicks for 10 hours in 1 of 162 meaningless games? :lmao

:cry but hockey is different :cry

[Kawhitstorm]

And Jesus Christ, penalty shootouts. Imagine ending a basketball game after the 2nd overtime or something on a 3 point contest. Or ending a baseball game after the 12th inning on a home run derby. A penalty shootout barely resembles the core gameplay of soccer, but yet it's used to decide important matches.

If only the biggest sporting event in North America hasn't been decided by kicking the ball into a 20x18 goal post NUMEROUS times.:lmao

[midnightpulp]

If only the biggest sporting event in North America hasn't been decided by kicking the ball into a 20x18 goal post NUMEROUS times.:lmao

That's an essential part of the game, though, built into football's core gameplay (a team can CHOOSE to score that way).

A penalty shootout is not. Now, if the two teams had a field goal shootout, then you would have a point.

You're reaching here. It's a flawed concept. There's no excusing it.

[Blizzardwizard]

Batball :lol

Beisbol :lol

Fat man's cricket, tbh.

[Splits]

Also midnightpulp (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=5430)

:lol Billy Hamilton
:lol a career .245 hitter as the game's best "athlete" because he can run fast
:lol pinch running
:lol dressing in a costume to run 90 feet in 3 seconds of a 4 hour snore fest
:lol join the olympics
:lol more sac bunts than homers
:lol bunting
:lol sacrifice bunting
:lol an adult called "Billy"
:lol game's best "athlete" earns $500k/yr when the fat guys earns 48.5 times that
:lol American cricket

[midnightpulp]

Fat Fielder is the 10th highest paid player in a league of over 700 players :lmao

And :cry the game could go on forever :cry yet you'd rather watch a bunch of fat fucks play with their dicks for 10 hours in 1 of 162 meaningless games? :lmao

:cry but hockey is different :cry

No, I'd rather watch a sport that doesn't end in a tie nor is decided by arbitrary minigames. The beauty of baseball is you're never out of it.

Check out how the Yankess rallied from 6 runs down in the 9th to beat the Rangers.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/boxscore?gameId=360629110

In povertyball, the game goes like this:

Score.
Park bus.
Give up equalizer or win.
If former, go to a penalty shootout.

And there's bad baseball contracts all the time. Prince Fielder is like the Dwight Howard of the NBA.

He was also faster than Ronaldo.

Prince's 60 yard dash time: 6.8, 26.4 feet per second.

Ronaldo's 82 feet dash time: 3.61 seconds, 22.7 feet per second

:lmao

[140]

:lol dressing in a costume to run 90 feet in 3 seconds of a 4 hour snore fest
:lmao this, tbh. those uniforms are so fucking retarded :lol

[midnightpulp]

Also midnightpulp (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=5430)

:lol Billy Hamilton
:lol a career .245 hitter as the game's best "athlete" because he can run fast
:lol pinch running
:lol dressing in a costume to run 90 feet in 3 seconds of a 4 hour snore fest
:lol join the olympics
:lol more sac bunts than homers
:lol bunting
:lol sacrifice bunting
:lol an adult called "Billy"
:lol game's best "athlete" earns $500k/yr when the fat guys earns 48.5 times that
:lol American cricket

Since when are pure athletes guaranteed big contracts? James Flight White was a great athlete and was garbage.

Anyhow, baseball's best all around athlete is probably Mike Trout. Fastest than Ronaldo despite weighing 50 lbs more. Jumps higher than him, too.

Ronaldo and his 30" running vert :lol

Seriously, when you watch povertyball over there in Europe, how are you not completely underwhelmed with the athletic "prowess" of the players, being raised watching stuff like this:

https://usatftw.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/sanders1.gif?w=1000

http://i.imgur.com/9gAdk.gif?noredirect

http://24.media.tumblr.com/ad74d98c095eee015253f14558f3f113/tumblr_mq7b24PaRk1rs13bbo1_400.gif

Come home to American sports, brother. Leave the "We Tied Again: The Game" to the foreigners and hipsters :toast

[140]

In povertyball, the game goes like this:

Score.
Park bus.
Give up equalizer or win.
If former, go to a penalty shootout.


Clearly you either haven't watched many games or you don't know how to watch them. Actually, probably both tbh :lol

[Splits]

Prince's 60 yard dash time: 6.8, 26.4 feet per second.


:lol 14 years ago and 60 pounds lighter
:lol cherry picking
:lol that morbidly obese fuck is a top-10 "athlete" in American cricket

[Kawhitstorm]

That's an essential part of the game

I agree, they called it FOOT-ball b/c kicking the ball w/ your feet is the central core of the game.

:cryWanna-be-like futbol:cry

:cryWhy doesn't the rest of the world appreciate our precious sport:cry

:cryWhy is the biggest sporting event in North America decided by a scrub who couldn't make the futbol team:cry

[Splits]

:lmao this, tbh. those uniforms are so fucking retarded :lol

:lol 80 year old coach dressing in the costume with a number on it
:lol "base coaches" also dressing in the costume and wearing helmets
:lol needing a "coach" to tell you to stop, run, or slide
:lol imagine if NBA coaches and assistants wore the same outfit as players
:lol imagine if NFL coaches and assistants wore pads
:lol imagine if NHL managers wore skates, sweaters, and helmets
:lol imagine if Football managers wore shin pads and jerseys
:lol these guys are "ready to play" in case any of the other 26 fat guys have a heart attack

https://sineilleifer.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/1167.jpg?w=960

[midnightpulp]

:lol 14 years ago and 60 pounds lighter
:lol cherry picking
:lol that morbidly obese fuck is a top-10 "athlete" in American cricket

And it's cost him.

He's barely been above replacement level for the last 4 seasons. His contract was Kirby bad.

He also has a 24 million dollar per year worthy .350 OPS in the playoffs :lol. For context, the best players will have a .900 and above OPS.

He's trash, which is why I don't know why the soccer crew constantly references him as an example of a good player. He could've been if he didn't get fat.

[Kawhitstorm]

Clearly you either haven't watched many games or you don't know how to watch them. Actually, probably both tbh :lol

He's an insecure red neck who has been bent out of shape ever since Trump got cucked by a female w/ a **** bigger than his micropenis.

[midnightpulp]

I agree, they called it FOOT-ball b/c kicking the ball w/ your feet is the central core of the game.

:cryWanna-be-like futbol:cry

:cryWhy doesn't the rest of the world appreciate our precious sport:cry

:cryWhy is the biggest sporting event in North America decided by a scrub who couldn't make the futbol team:cry

Still really reaching on this point.

There's nothing you can deflect to in any other major sport that is as retarded as a penalty shootout. You and I both know. Just imagine if the Spurs battled for 3 OT in the NBA Finals and then we go to a

3 point shootout!

I would give up watching basketball on the spot.

[Barfunk]

lol Soccer fans turning red. Arrggghhhh, hear me roar.

[Kawhitstorm]

And it's cost him.

He's barely been above replacement level for the last 4 seasons. His contract was Kirby bad.

He also has a 24 million dollar per year worthy .350 OPS in the playoffs :lol. For context, the best players will have a .900 and above OPS.

He's trash, which is why I don't know why the soccer crew constantly references him as an example of a good player. He could've been if he didn't get fat.

Bumgarner has a higher HR rate than Bryce "best power hitter in beisbol" Harper :lol

[apalisoc_9]

It's an amazing sport. :lmao American sports where players are so dumb (football) and fat (baseball) they have to be told what to do every play/second (football, baseball & basketball).

Soccer is the beautiful game because it's free flowing and a bunch of in-shape athletic guys *gasp* get to display skill and make their own decisions without Rex Ryan yelling at them to run in a pre-determined line because they're idiots :lol

It's been a while since DPG violated an OP...Good to seenyour game back tbh.

[midnightpulp]

He's an insecure red neck who has been bent out of shape ever since Trump got cucked by a female w/ a **** bigger than his micropenis.

:cry He hates soccer
:cry "He must be a red neck!"

No, I hate soccer because it's a silly sport.

Not everyone likes your "The World's Game."

[midnightpulp]

Bumgarner has a higher HR rate than Bryce "best power hitter in beisbol" Harper :lol

Do you really believe Bumgarner could sustain that over a whole season?

Reeeeaaaaching again. It's like saying some bench player has a better 3 point percentage than Steph Curry. Then you find out the bench player only took 10 total three point attempts.

[apalisoc_9]

Penalty shootout is the most intense tie breaker ever. One miss can make you cry and the next make can make you sceam and jump of happines

American sports.. lol

No gives a shit about american sports :lol

[Splits]

And it's cost him.

He's barely been above replacement level for the last 4 seasons. His contract was Kirby bad.

He also has a 24 million dollar per year worthy .350 OPS in the playoffs :lol. For context, the best players will have a .900 and above OPS.

He's trash, which is why I don't know why the soccer crew constantly references him as an example of a good player. He could've been if he didn't get fat.

:lol acting like Prince is a fat-anomaly in the top 10
:lol #4 in salary Miguel Cabrera is a fat fuck

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4bK9kYUYx7E/RnhB_4m4xMI/AAAAAAAAAGQ/faJ2-8KIeNM/s400/mcabrera.jpg

:lol #7 in salary Albert Pujols is severely overweight

http://cdn.barstoolsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/17/Screen-Shot-2016-05-17-at-1.48.20-PM.png?ab784c

:lol #8 in salary CC Sabathia fucking whale

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2011/0708/espnw_mlbteam_02.jpg

:lol #9 in salary Ryan Howard is a fucking obese pig
https://media.gq.com/photos/5583162109f0bee56441131e/master/pass/sports-2010-05-fat-baseball-players-ryan-howard.jpg


:lmao 4, 7, 8, 9, 10 of the highest salaried "athletes" in American cricket are fat fucks

:lmao half the league

[midnightpulp]

Penalty shootout is the most intense tie breaker ever. One miss can make you cry and the next make can make you sceam and jump of happines

American sports.. lol

No gives a shit about american sports :lol

:lol Trying to justify deciding a match on a minigame

If no one cares about American sports, why is basketball the 2nd most popular sport in the world?

(The China factor gives it the edge over cricket)

And baseball is a popular sport in a variety of countries with decent population sizes.

The NFL is irrelevant worldwide, most likely because the rest of world is too small and poor to play it :lol

It's why the gravitate toward povertyball. Poor Mexicans can play it with the decapitated head of cartel victims.

[Kawhitstorm]

Just imagine if the Spurs battled for 3 OT in the NBA Finals and then we go to a

3 point shootout!

As if basketball games aren't decided by FTs, the only sport where players take piggy back rides to commit fouls.:lmao

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-XTrL7W_EoaE/VVptboPBJ4I/AAAAAAABFw4/rfJYXblXPK0/w506-h285/Chris%2BPaul%2BPiggy%2BBack%2BDwight%2BHoward%2BSh ot%2BScience.gif

[Kawhitstorm]

Do you really believe Bumgarner could sustain that over a whole season?

Reeeeaaaaching again. It's like saying some bench player has a better 3 point percentage than Steph Curry. Then you find out the bench player only took 10 total three point attempts.

There has NEVER existed a player that can make 3 pointers off the dribble at the same rate as Curry let alone a scrub on the bench outdoing him.:lol

[Splits]

And baseball is a popular sport in a variety of countries with decent population sizes.

The NFL is irrelevant worldwide, most likely because the rest of world is too small and poor to play it :lol


Beisball is "popular" in countries we invaded and occupied, imposed our "values", but nowhere else. I wonder why it isn't an Olympic sport?

Hand-egg is irrelevant because even those countries we invaded and occupied aren't dumb enough to suffer a post-career life limited to drinking their dinner and dying at age 50.

[Kawhitstorm]

Its a beautiful game...not really a huge soccer fan but it is. Its just all that flopping I hate which is why it sneaking into the NBA pisses me off.

Flopping is actually pretty prevalent in the NFL among SKILL players aka receivers.:lol

In futbol it only takes a slight contact to throw you off which is also true when you're trying to catch the ball. There is no skill involved when it comes to just running w/ the ball while cradling in you hands unlike trying to dribble a ball w/ your feet while weaving through traffic.

[AlexJones]

Do they test soccer players for PEDs, tbh?

I really can't imagine how Messi and Ronaldo could play a full season+champions league+world cup/copa/euros without being on some serious shit

[Kawhitstorm]

Do they test soccer players for PEDs, tbh?

http://www.thesportster.com/soccer/top-10-footballers-caught-doing-drugs/

[midnightpulp]

:lmao 4, 7, 8, 9, 10 of the highest salaried "athletes" in American cricket are fat fucks

:lmao half the league

Cherry picking again :lol

And what's with this silly logic that contracts define ability? Baseball teams give out stupid contracts all the time.

But let's break it down:

Ryan Howard:

He's been BELOW replacement level for the past 5 seasons, meaning you can call up a Triple AAA prospect and pay him 200K and probably get better performance. And before he dipped to below replacement level, he was barely treading water as a quality starter.

Pujols. Here's what he looked like in his prime:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61hnB-169yL._SS400_.jpg

And now, he's actually a net negative player and has been just starter quality over the past 4 seasons. Nowhere close to a top 10 player in the league.

CC was in rehab, and since signing the contract, has barely been above bench player level.

Miggy isn't fat.

http://eastbayhittinginstruction.com/uploads/3/4/3/4/34347417/9390410_orig.jpg

Meanwhile, this skinny fat specimen makes more than all of those players per year :lmao

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/07/15/article-1294872-0A5D21FD000005DC-798_306x438.jpg

http://popbitch.com/home/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/wayne-rooney-fat.jpg

Oh, and this guy ranked 27th in goals scorer last season :lmao

http://i.imgur.com/oeAXA.jpg

And he's consistently one of the highest scores in the Premier League :lol

[midnightpulp]

Beisball is "popular" in countries we invaded and occupied, imposed our "values", but nowhere else. I wonder why it isn't an Olympic sport?

Hand-egg is irrelevant because even those countries we invaded and occupied aren't dumb enough to suffer a post-career life limited to drinking their dinner and dying at age 50.

And the UK did the exact same thing with soccer, cricket, etc.

Also, baseball was introduced to Japan (who introduced it to South Korea) well before the occupation.


Baseball was first introduced to Japan as a school sport in 1872 by American, Horace Wilson, an English professor at the Kaisei Academy in Tokyo. The first organized adult baseball team, called the Shimbashi Athletic Club and was established in 1878.

[Splits]

And what's with this silly logic that contracts define ability? Baseball teams give out stupid contracts all the time.


:lol deflecting
:lol posting pictures of a washed up loser who every football fan agrees is the posterchild for loserdom
:lol posting picture of some nobody ranked 27th
:lol half the American cricket league top-10 paid players are severely overweight

[midnightpulp]

There has NEVER existed a player that can make 3 pointers off the dribble at the same rate as Curry let alone a scrub on the bench outdoing him.:lol

Oh, now you're shifting it to "off the dribble."

Quit reaching. You and I both MadBum isn't hitting 40 homers over a full season. He hits .175 :lol

Also, where are you getting your phony stats?

MadBum's homerun/at bat ratio is 20. Harper's is 15.6

[midnightpulp]

:lol deflecting
:lol posting pictures of a washed up loser who every football fan agrees is the posterchild for loserdom
:lol posting picture of some nobody ranked 27th
:lol half the American cricket league top-10 paid players are severely overweight

And he still makes more than those baseball players :lol

And what deflection?

Tell me since when does contract size define player ability? Tony Parker got a nice contract. Didn't live up to it. They paid Kirby 24 million per year. He was about the worse player in the league.

Also to be ranked 27th in the Premier League, when you consider how many 3rd worlders play soccer, basically makes that skinny thing one of the .0001% top soccer players in the world :lol.

And literal midgets can play the game at the highest levels :lmao

http://media.minutemediacdn.com/process?url=http%3A%2F%2Fsportority-prod-ugc.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpost_image%2Fimage%2F149684 1%2Ffile.jpg&filters%5Bresize%5D%5Bw%5D=912&filters%5Bresize%5D%5Bh%5D=516&filters%5Bresize%5D%5Bgravity%5D=Center&filters%5Bquality%5D%5Btarget%5D=80&type=.jpg

[TheGreatYacht]

:lol 80 year old coach dressing in the costume with a number on it
:lol "base coaches" also dressing in the costume and wearing helmets
:lol needing a "coach" to tell you to stop, run, or slide
:lol imagine if NBA coaches and assistants wore the same outfit as players
:lol imagine if NFL coaches and assistants wore pads
:lol imagine if NHL managers wore skates, sweaters, and helmets
:lol imagine if Football managers wore shin pads and jerseys
:lol these guys are "ready to play" in case any of the other 26 fat guys have a heart attack

https://sineilleifer.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/1167.jpg?w=960
Swear to god, the funniest post I've read on here :lmao

[Kawhitstorm]

Also, where are you getting your phony stats?

MadBum's homerun/at bat ratio is 20. Harper's is 15.6

It was true when Bumgarner hit his last HR earlier this month which was when I read about it.:lol

Even w/ Harper trending up, Bumgarner has a better slugging% for the month of June.:lmao (Someone needs a "booster" shot)

[Thebesteva]

Flopping is actually pretty prevalent in the NFL among SKILL players aka receivers.:lol

In futbol it only takes a slight contact to throw you off which is also true when you're trying to catch the ball. There is no skill involved when it comes to just running w/ the ball while cradling in you hands unlike trying to dribble a ball w/ your feet while weaving through traffic.

I dont mind them falling down to get the refs attention but I hate that they have to grab their ankle and scream in horrific pain. I train martial arts for years now and boxing and lemme tell u...ive seen guys tear there ACL's and react better than those soccer players im seriously not exaggerating. They usually just grab their knee and say something popped and hurts bad. Soccer players act like they got their legs severed

[Kawhitstorm]

I dont mind them falling down to get the refs attention but I hate that they have to grab their ankle and scream in horrific pain. I train martial arts for years now and boxing and lemme tell u...ive seen guys tear there ACL's and react better than those soccer players im seriously not exaggerating. They usually just grab their knee and say something popped and hurts bad. Soccer players act like they got their legs severed

They exaggerate to trick the refs into pulling out their cards.:lol (It happens in the NBA w/ players trying to get a flagrant foul call)

_Z2Sa62bW6g

[pookenstein]

Still really reaching on this point.

There's nothing you can deflect to in any other major sport that is as retarded as a penalty shootout. You and I both know. Just imagine if the Spurs battled for 3 OT in the NBA Finals and then we go to a

3 point shootout!

I would give up watching basketball on the spot.

What about Ice Hockey? They have a penalty shootout, don't they?

Also apparently shootouts exist in both Basketball and Baseball. Granted, not on the biggst stage, but they exist.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penalty_shootout


Basketball (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basketball)
Conditions for overtime usually vary. In most cases, an extra overtime period is added if the first overtime ends in a tie. In some recreational leagues, because of time constraints, some leagues use a shootout procedure where teams alternating five rounds of free throw (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_throw) Shooting.

Baseball (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baseball)[edit (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Penalty_shootout&action=edit&section=11)]A similar concept has been adopted in a few professional baseball leagues. The Israel Baseball League (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Baseball_League) (IBL), in its only season in 2007, and the Can-Am League (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_American_Association_of_Professional_Base ball), beginning in 2014, have both used home run (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_run) derbies as tiebreakers instead of the potentially endless system of extra innings (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extra_innings) used in Major League Baseball (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_League_Baseball) and elsewhere. In the IBL, home run derbies took place immediately after regulation ended (after the 7th inning) while the Can-Am League does not employ the home run derby tiebreaker until after the 10th inning.

[benefactor]

Mid vs. the poorball loyalists always makes for a nice morning read.:tu

And yes, soccer fucking sucks. My girlfriend likes it but that's because she grew up in South America.

[midnightpulp]

What about Ice Hockey? They have a penalty shootout, don't they?

Also apparently shootouts exist in both Basketball and Baseball. Granted, not on the biggst stage, but they exist.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penalty_shootout

I'm really only talking about the highest levels of play for the sake of the argument. They don't do it in the NHL, thankfully. And obviously they don't do a derby in the MLB.

I just don't like a shootout concept, regardless of the sport. I would probably follow soccer more if they got rid of them, in addition to red carding diving on the spot and reforming in-the-box penalties (goals are too valuable in the game, so to give a team a 90% chance of scoring off a foul makes no sense. Just because a player had the ball in the box, doesn't mean he was likely to score).

[pookenstein]

It's all good. I like football (call it soccer, povertyball or whatever you like) and nothing you say/write bothers me or will change that. Obviously it's the same from your pov. I like a little shit talking and if you can bait some posters into argueing, good for you.

[Pelicans78]

http://giant.gfycat.com/UniqueDesertedCat.gif
http://i.makeagif.com/media/10-12-2015/Ac1dqh.gif

:lol this obese fat fuck is one of the best "athletes" in American Cricket
:lol makes $24m/year

The most athletic baseball players are way more athletic than the most athletic soccer players.

[Pelicans78]

Soo doo y'all ever think y'all have run out of arguments in this soccer vs stickball shit slinging fest?

I already said soccer would score goals as 3pts and give penalty kicks with 1 pt for most penalties.

Baseball should not count outs. Just have an inning end after 16 pitches. Offense can send anyone up to bat and can pull them off bat as well. Basically more like the Pokemon card game.

That's basically cricket

[midnightpulp]

It's all good. I like football (call it soccer, povertyball or whatever you like) and nothing you say/write bothers me or will change that. Obviously it's the same from your pov. I like a little shit talking and if you can bait some posters into argueing, good for you.

Good luck in the Euro :toast

[Brazil]

:lol Mid and his soccer obssession... speaking of mind blowing

Nobody asks you to like this sport and you are not going to convince anyone that this is a dumb sport no matter how hard you try.

Fact is soccer dominates the world of sports and it's not even close, biggest revenue, attendance, coverage... you name it

and again the third world jokes are outdated especially by today's US citizens... laughable at this point

OP "I'm gonna call it povertyball because only third worlders play it" meaning everybody except for a bunch of US insiders red necks who never crossed the frontier... OP is a Grown man acting like a 12 y/o kid

[midnightpulp]

:lol Mid and his soccer obssession... speaking of mind blowing

Nobody asks you to like this sport and you are not going to convince anyone that this is a dumb sport no matter how hard you try.

Fact is soccer dominates the world of sports and it's not even close, biggest revenue, attendance, coverage... you name it

and again the third world jokes are outdated especially by today's US citizens... laughable at this point

OP "I'm gonna call it povertyball because only third worlders play it" meaning everybody except for a bunch of US insiders red necks who never crossed the frontier... OP is a Grown man acting like a 12 y/o kid

You're taking this debate too seriously, my man.

[Splits]

:lol Mid and his soccer obssession... speaking of mind blowing

Nobody asks you to like this sport and you are not going to convince anyone that this is a dumb sport no matter how hard you try.

Fact is soccer dominates the world of sports and it's not even close, biggest revenue, attendance, coverage... you name it

and again the third world jokes are outdated especially by today's US citizens... laughable at this point

OP "I'm gonna call it povertyball because only third worlders play it" meaning everybody except for a bunch of US insiders red necks who never crossed the frontier... OP is a Grown man acting like a 12 y/o kid

:lol Brazil going balls deep

[Brazil]

You're taking this debate too seriously, my man.

:lol no I'm not

just telling like it is

[Clipper Nation]

:lol Mid and his soccer obssession... speaking of mind blowing

Nobody asks you to like this sport and you are not going to convince anyone that this is a dumb sport no matter how hard you try.

Fact is soccer dominates the world of sports and it's not even close, biggest revenue, attendance, coverage... you name it

and again the third world jokes are outdated especially by today's US citizens... laughable at this point

OP "I'm gonna call it povertyball because only third worlders play it" meaning everybody except for a bunch of US insiders red necks who never crossed the frontier... OP is a Grown man acting like a 12 y/o kid
Here's the types of countries that love povertyball:

- Third-world South American hellholes
- Third-world African hellholes
- Cucked European countries who have been emasculated by Merkel and Brussels, and who have opened their borders wide to radical Islamists - in other words, countries that are trying to become third-world countries sooner rather than later

The name "povertyball" clearly strikes a nerve with you because it's true.

[Brazil]

Here's the types of countries that love povertyball:

- Third-world South American hellholes
- Third-world African hellholes
- Cucked European countries who have been emasculated by Merkel and Brussels, and who have opened their borders wide to radical Islamists - in other words, countries that are trying to become third-world countries sooner rather than later

The name "povertyball" clearly strikes a nerve with you because it's true.

:lol you could have said "povertyball is for the whole world except for red necks like me"
:lol type of countries, you mean 99% of the world

[Clipper Nation]

:lol you could have said "povertyball is for the whole world except for red necks like me"
:lol type of countries, you mean 99% of the world
:cry "Anyone who doesn't like midgetball is a redneck!" :cry

[Brazil]

:cry "Anyone who doesn't like midgetball is a redneck!" :cry

:cry anyone who is not a US red neck eating nachos on his couch watching real football and beisbol is povertyball !" :cry

[TheGreatYacht]

lefty post "the GIF"

[midnightpulp]

:lol you could have said "povertyball is for the whole world except for red necks like me"
:lol type of countries, you mean 99% of the world

I think this is what irritates people about soccer fans. It's a kind of arrogance (an American arrogance, if you will) to assume because soccer is the dominant sport in Europe, it's the dominant sport everywhere.

Soccer is not a relevant sport in India and the surrounding countries like Pakistan and Bangladesh. The total population of that region is about 1.5 billion.

Soccer is not a relevant sport in the United States. Copa America matches featuring our national team were barely beating Women's softball in the ratings.

Soccer isn't relevant in Canada, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa. China is hard to gauge, but the entire country is by no means crazy about it like a Brazil or Germany.

I would estimate that about 40% to 60% of the world's population would pick a sport other than soccer as their favorite, so come off the bullshit that it's only "red neck Muricans" who aren't interested in it. And the fact you qualify every American who doesn't share your love for soccer as a "red neck" is just as myopic of a mentality that foreigners always accuse Americans of.

[pookenstein]

Good luck in the Euro :toast

:bobo
Thanks. If we beat Italia we'll win it all, which is great for me because I work for the DFB and expect a bonus...

[Brazil]

let me rephrase your post and basically show what your OP is about


I think this is what irritates people about US fans spitting on soccer. It's a kind of arrogance (an American arrogance, if you will) to assume because soccer is not the dominant sport in US, it's povertyball sport.

Soccer is a relevant sport in a vast majority of countries

Soccer is not a relevant sport in the United States so good fellows americans consider it's a third world sport.

Soccer is relevant in all countries in the world, some countries like India, New Zealand... it is not the number 1 but easily in a list of most popular sport in the country.

I would estimate that about 50% of the world's population live in a country where soccer is number one and 30% to 40% where soccer is a top 3 sport, so come off the bullshit of the american red necks that only "third worlders" are interested in it. And the fact you qualify every non American who doesn't share your hate for soccer as a "third worlder" is just as myopic of a mentality that americans always accuse rest of the world because of uneducated arrogance.

see that was easy... a pretty good translation of your OP.

[midnightpulp]

let me rephrase your post and basically show what your OP is about



see that was easy... a pretty good translation of your OP.

Soccer a top 3 sport in New Zealand, Australia, Canada, etc :lmao

Australia: AFL, cricket, rugby union, rugby league, field hockey

New Zealand: Rugby Union, Cricket, Rugby League

Canada: Ice hockey, Canadian football, American football, baseball, basketball...

India is 99.999999999% cricket. So the number 2 sport over there (which is probably field hockey) will have little-to-no-relevance. Same thing with cricket countries in South Asia.

My point is that you think "we don't care about soccer" is a distinctly American thing when many other countries couldn't really give a shit about it, either.

[Clipper Nation]

I mentioned this in another thread, but I'll say it again. The three major superpowers - the US, China and Russia - suck at midgetball and prefer real sports. Hell, badminton (:lol) and table tennis (:lmao) easily outrank poorball in China, let alone basketball.

As Mid mentioned, India is a cricket country, and Canada, New Zealand and Australia don't really give a shit about kickball either. Japan is all about baseball and wrestling.

This whole "soccer is the world's sport" mantra has always been a lie, spread by Eurotrash with an inferiority complex who want to elevate the one "sport" they're any good at. The reality is, if povertyball was anywhere near as big a deal as its fans claim it is, the competition and the appeal wouldn't be limited to Europe and the third world.

[Brazil]

Soccer a top 3 sport in New Zealand, Australia, Canada, etc :lmao

Australia: AFL, cricket, rugby union, rugby league, field hockey

New Zealand: Rugby Union, Cricket, Rugby League

Canada: Ice hockey, Canadian football, American football, baseball, basketball...

India is 99.999999999% cricket. So the number 2 sport over there (which is probably field hockey) will have little-to-no-relevance. Same thing with cricket countries in South Asia.

My point is that you think "we don't care about soccer" is a distinctly American thing when many other countries couldn't really give a shit about it, either.

:lol my point remains brah... you can spin the shit you want and enter in details country by country, Soccer is the sport most popular in the world, whether you say it is true for only 40% of the countries or for 60% of the countries... this is irrelevant. Soccer is number one by a mile and it's not even close. That's a fact, you can go by number of countries, population, every single stuff and soccer is number 1, it is what it is.

My point has nothing to do with the fact americans don't care. I don't give a single fuck about americans caring about soccer or not. The other countries that don't give a shit about soccer don't hate soccer and/or don't spend their time explaining to people who like soccer it sucks because you know :cry draw is not cool, there are no scoring so it's boring :cry etc etc...

But because you are an arrogant american you feel entitled to call soccer fans third worlders and demonstrate how superior beisboll (popular in 6 countries) and football (popular in 1) are ?

You can LMAO'ing all the shit you want, it remains that's number one sport that continues to grow and entertain billions of people that certainly are not lucky enough to be american and smart enough to understand how shitty it is

[Clipper Nation]

American sports fans only shit on povertyball in response to smug Eurocucks making fun of our sports. We wouldn't give a shit about your overglorified schoolyard game otherwise - but when you guys try to hold it up as being better than real sports like baseball and football, we're going to point out how shitty it actually is.

[midnightpulp]

:lol my point remains brah... you can spin the shit you want and enter in details country by country, Soccer is the sport most popular in the world, whether you say it is true for only 40% of the countries or for 60% of the countries... this is irrelevant. Soccer is number one by a mile and it's not even close. That's a fact, you can go by number of countries, population, every single stuff and soccer is number 1, it is what it is.

My point has nothing to do with the fact americans don't care. I don't give a single fuck about americans caring about soccer or not. The other countries that don't give a shit about soccer don't hate soccer and/or don't spend their time explaining to people who like soccer it sucks because you know :cry draw is not cool, there are no scoring so it's boring :cry etc etc...

But because you are an arrogant american you feel entitled to call soccer fans third worlders and demonstrate how superior beisboll (popular in 6 countries) and football (popular in 1) are ?

You can LMAO'ing all the shit you want, it remains that's number one sport that continues to grow and entertain billions of people that certainly are not lucky enough to be american and smart enough to understand how shitty it is

I'm not challenging the fact soccer is the number one sport in the world. I was challenging your 99% figure, which implied "it's only redneck Americans who don't like soccer, the rest of the world loves 'the beautiful game' as much we do in France!"

It sounds like you're butthurt because someone actually had an opinion that didn't suck :cry The Beautiful Game's :cry figurative dick.

Or does the povertyball name really offend you that much?

What exactly is your issue here?

Also, :lol at soccer fans never trying to demonstrate how superior :cry The Beautiful Game :cry is to American sports. Go to any youtube video of an NFL game, and there will likely be a soccer fan complaining about how we named it football and how there's only 11 minutes of playtime.

Clicked on a random video. Never fails :lol


so im searching football but keep getting american rugby

[midnightpulp]

American sports fans only shit on povertyball in response to smug Eurocucks making fun of our sports. We wouldn't give a shit about your overglorified schoolyard game otherwise - but when you guys try to hold it up as being better than real sports like baseball and football, we're going to point out how shitty it actually is.

And as I said in my latest post, this whole pissing contest was started by the fact that we named our football, football, which enrages petty foreigners for some reason. From that, comparisons between the sports begin.

When in fact, every English speaking country in the world who has a domestic football code that isn't soccer will call their sport "football." Aussie Rules Football, Gaelic Football, etc.

And they also rage about us calling it soccer, when it was the fuckin' English who called it that first. Let's check out youtube for some "enlightened" foreigner commentary.


IT'S FOOTBALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOT SOCCER FUCKING RETARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Every european says Football... South Americans also... and then Americans come and say soccer


You mean football not soccer?


im not against americans calling football soccer "let them live in ignorance" but calling a sport that you play with your hands football thats the most stupid and idiotic thing ever

^^^ From an English faggot, too. Too bad his superior English education didn't come with a lesson on how his country called it soccer (Association Football=soc, soccer) to distinguish it from Rugby (Rugger) football.

[Relevancy]

I wanna watch Clipper Nation (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=28500) and midnightpulp (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=5430) play "povertyball":lmao

[Clipper Nation]

And as I said in my latest post, this whole pissing contest was started by the fact that we named our football, football, which enrages petty foreigners for some reason. From that, comparisons between the sports begin.

When in fact, every English speaking country in the world who has a domestic football code that isn't soccer will call their sport "football." Aussie Rules Football, Gaelic Football, etc.
Their enlightened European minds can't comprehend the fact that all of those sports are called "football" because they are ball sports played on foot (as opposed to polo on horseback). It's not a reference to kicking.

:cry "But, but, muh handegg! I'm so clever! Wake up, people, it's the current year!" :cry

[Brazil]

I'm not challenging the fact soccer is the number one sport in the world. I was challenging your 99% figure, which implied "it's only redneck Americans who don't like soccer, the rest of the world loves 'the beautiful game' as much we do in France!"

and I agree it is not 99%, does not change anything of the conversation tho. Soccer is clear cut number 1 but still only third worlders like it and it's povertyball game ? really ? you are more clever than that. I never implied only rednecks dislike soccer, I implied only rednecks would try to explain soccer sucks and beisboll is more interesting and if you don't agree you are a ******. France is not a good example of passion for soccer bro :lol try Brazil, Spain, England, Argentina


It sounds like you're butthurt because someone actually had an opinion that didn't suck :cry The Beautiful Game's :cry figurative dick.

Or does the povertyball name really offend you that much?

What exactly is your issue here?

That's funny because it seems you are butthurt by the fact I'm using the words red necks tbh. Red necks is offending you ? My issue is in my first post of this thread brah...


Also, :lol at soccer fans never trying to demonstrate how superior :cry The Beautiful Game :cry is to American sports. Go to any youtube video of an NFL game, and there will likely be a soccer fan complaining about how we named it football and how there's only 11 minutes of playtime.

Clicked on a random video. Never fails :lol

You are the one in this thread making fun of soccer trying to demonstrate how superior beisboll is :lol

:lol at the go on youtube, you can find anything you want on youtube. But let me get this straight you created a thread here because of random guys post on youtube ? There are people mean to American sports so you want to defend american sports honor ? That's the point of your thread ? :lol

[Caltex2]

Keeping up with soccer recently also made me remember Wales is a country. I mean, it's not technically a country but I tended to just lump it in as another part of England, given how small it is.

[midnightpulp]

and I agree it is not 99%, does not change anything of the conversation tho. Soccer is clear cut number 1 but still only third worlders like it and it's povertyball game ? really ? you are more clever than that. I never implied only rednecks dislike soccer, I implied only rednecks would try to explain soccer sucks and beisboll is more interesting and if you don't agree you are a ******. France is not a good example of passion for soccer bro :lol try Brazil, Spain, England, Argentina



That's funny because it seems you are butthurt by the fact I'm using the words red necks tbh. Red necks is offending you ? My issue is in my first post of this thread brah...



You are the one in this thread making fun of soccer trying to demonstrate how superior beisboll is :lol

:lol at the go on youtube, you can find anything you want on youtube. But let me get this straight you created a thread here because of random guys post on youtube ? There are people mean to American sports so you want to defend american sports honor ? That's the point of your thread ? :lol

I'm not bothered at all by you calling anyone rednecks. You're the one who usually comes into these threads and lectures us about calling soccer povertyball. I was only telling you that far more people aren't interested in soccer than just rednecks.

No. I created this thread here to troll Lefty and the soccer crew, who actually threw the first stone in this regard with their baseball threads.

And no, I'm not "offended" by them making fun of baseball. But you know me. You troll something I like (i.e. Kool with Duncan/Spurs), I will shit on something you like (i.e. Kobe/Lakers).

Again, don't take it so seriously.

[Brazil]

I'm not bothered at all by you calling anyone rednecks. You're the one who usually comes into these threads and lectures us about calling soccer povertyball. I was only telling you that far more people aren't interested in soccer than just rednecks.

and again I'm not bothered by the terms povertyball


No. I created this thread here to troll Lefty and the soccer crew, who actually threw the first stone in this regard with their baseball threads.

fair enough



And no, I'm not "offended" by them making fun of baseball. But you know me. You troll something I like (i.e. Kool with Duncan/Spurs), I will shit on something you like (i.e. Kobe/Lakers).

So that's the same reason I come into those threads and lecture... you troll something I like (Soccer) or I am (non american liking soccer) and I will respond. pretty standard :lol


Again, don't take it so seriously.

I don't tbh :lol

[midnightpulp]

and again I'm not bothered by the terms povertyball



fair enough




So that's the same reason I come into those threads and lecture... you troll something I like (Soccer) or I am (non american liking soccer) and I will respond. pretty standard :lol



I don't tbh :lol

All good then. Good luck in the Euro :toast

Kill Iceland, so England's loss looks that much worse :lol

[Brazil]

All good then. Good luck in the Euro :toast

Kill Iceland, so England's loss looks that much worse :lol

Indeed all good :tu

Thanks tbh but with France anything is possible, they are capable of losing against those vikings

[Kawhitstorm]

This whole "soccer is the world's sport" mantra has always been a lie, spread by Eurotrash with an inferiority complex who want to elevate the one "sport" they're any good at. The reality is, if povertyball was anywhere near as big a deal as its fans claim it is, the competition and the appeal wouldn't be limited to Europe and the third world.

741117937625497604

CTRL+F: Besibol:cry #povertyball

http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/WORLD/africa/10/04/cape.town.baseball/t1larg.south.africa.baseball.cnn.jpg

[Darth_Pelican]

I don't mind watching soccer from time to time. I follow the USMNT. But the soccer fanatics' need to constantly defend everything soccer is insufferable.

[Kawhitstorm]

I don't mind watching soccer from time to time. I follow the USMNT. But the soccer fanatics' need to constantly defend everything soccer is insufferable.

USMNT fans are the worst, the MLS hipster supporters are insufferable.:lol

[Darth_Pelican]

USMNT fans are the worst, the MLS hipster supporters are insufferable.:lol

The MLS sucks, no doubt.

[Aztecfan03]

Soo doo y'all ever think y'all have run out of arguments in this soccer vs stickball shit slinging fest?

I already said soccer would score goals as 3pts and give penalty kicks with 1 pt for most penalties.

Baseball should not count outs. Just have an inning end after 16 pitches. Offense can send anyone up to bat and can pull them off bat as well. Basically more like the Pokemon card game.

Seriously? The pitcher would then throw 1 strike and then pitch out 15 times.

[Darth_Pelican]

741117937625497604

:lol Highest paid to kick the ball in the net and has zero goals the entire Euro 2016.

[Kawhitstorm]

:lol Highest paid to kick the ball in the net and has zero goals the entire Euro 2016.

He doesn't get paid to play for his national team. #pay4play

[Brazil]

kawhitstorm doin work

[Clipper Nation]

741117937625497604

CTRL+F: Besibol:cry #povertyball

http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/WORLD/africa/10/04/cape.town.baseball/t1larg.south.africa.baseball.cnn.jpg

:lol Have you seen some of the contracts being handed out to scrubs in the NBA alone this week? Contracts =/= quality.

Plus, you're comparing a non-capped "sport" like povertyball to leagues like the NBA that have salary caps.

[Kawhitstorm]

:lol Have you seen some of the contracts being handed out to scrubs in the NBA alone this week? Contracts =/= quality.

Plus, you're comparing a non-capped "sport" like povertyball to leagues like the NBA that have salary caps.

#povertyball

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/1EE4/production/_84380970_gettyimages-2193978.jpg

[Clipper Nation]

#povertyball

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/1EE4/production/_84380970_gettyimages-2193978.jpg

Pictured: the average poorball fans.

[Kawhitstorm]

Pictured: the average poorball fans.

The average besibol player is a futbol fan.:toast

[Clipper Nation]

The average besibol player is a futbol fan.:toast

Nah.

[Kawhitstorm]

Nah.

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[Clipper Nation]

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http://i.imgur.com/Omueakc.jpg

[Clipper Nation]

LOOK: Pro female soccer's minimum salary falls below poverty linehttp://www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/look-pro-female-soccers-minimum-salary-falls-below-poverty-line/

[TampaDude]

The shootout in hockey is only in the regular season.

Hockey is awesome. It's played on ice, and every player has a weapon. :hat

[Canyonero]

Cleveland - Toronto just finished. Over 6 hours of playing time but fortunately the score was high.

Oh it was 2-1? nvm then

[midnightpulp]

741117937625497604

CTRL+F: Besibol:cry #povertyball

http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2010/WORLD/africa/10/04/cape.town.baseball/t1larg.south.africa.baseball.cnn.jpg

When you expand the list to the top 100, baseball players feature 26 times compared to 12 times for soccer players :hat

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forbes%27_list_of_world%27s_highest-paid_athletes

[Kawhitstorm]

When you expand the list to the top 100, baseball players feature 26 times compared to 12 times for soccer players :hat

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forbes%27_list_of_world%27s_highest-paid_athletes

Messi/CR7 make more than the besibol players in the top 50 (6).:lmao

[Arcadian]

I hate soccer and baseball. Anyone else in the same boat?

[midnightpulp]

Messi/CR7 make more than the besibol players in the top 50 (6).:lmao

Who cares? When you combine the total dollar amount of contracts of the all soccer players and baseball players in the top 100, baseball players make more in total.

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/dam/assets/130131012320-sports-revenue-chart-tablet-large.jpg

Povertyball is behind US college sports :lmao

[Kawhitstorm]

Who cares? When you combine the total dollar amount of contracts of the all soccer players and baseball players in the top 100, baseball players make more in total.

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/dam/assets/130131012320-sports-revenue-chart-tablet-large.jpg

Povertyball is behind US college sports :lmao

Dumbass, the graph only has the EPL listed when the 2 highest paid athletes in the WORLD (& the top 3 futbol players) play in La Liga.:lol (The equivalent of the NBA/MLB/NFL/MLB is the Champions League)


The highest paying athletic team in the world is FC Barcelona (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Barcelona)and has an average salary of $8,680,569 a year, with each player earning about $166,934 a WEEK! Second in line is AC Milan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A.C._Milan), from Italian professional league Serie A. It’s interesting to note that the New York Yankees and AC Milan have nearly identical payrolls, but the AC Milan players have higher individual salaries than the Yankees players. The #3 spot on our list of highest paid teams is Manchester City (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester_City_F.C.), who just won the Premiership (EPL Championship) (https://edition.cnn.com/2012/05/13/sport/football/football-manchester-city-united/index.html) for the first time since 1968, thanks to the ability to pay for extraordinary talent.

http://dadaviz.com/media/viz_images/these-are-the-worlds-most-valuable-sports-teams-1438179475.72-9569975.png

[resistanze]

Cleveland - Toronto just finished. Over 6 hours of playing time but fortunately the score was high.

Oh it was 2-1? nvm then

:lol What a ridiculously painful game that was.

[midnightpulp]

Dumbass, the graph only has the EPL listed when the 2 highest paid athletes in the WORLD (& the top 3 futbol players) play in La Liga.:lol (The equivalent of the NBA/MLB/NFL/MLB is the Champions League)


http://dadaviz.com/media/viz_images/these-are-the-worlds-most-valuable-sports-teams-1438179475.72-9569975.png

So you post a graph that just further proves my point?

:lol at Our 4 niche sports no one apparently carea about and their professional and amateur leagues (college) being worth more than all the combined povertyball teams/leagues in the world.

Check this graph. 4 American leagues are worth than all the povertyball leagues combined :lmao

http://cdn.howmuch.net/content/images/1600/sports-leagues-by-revenue-9337-c600.jpg

Thus my and CN's point. What good is a billion strong audience if you can't profit from it? And why can't they profit from it like they should? Because 90% of viewership comes from the 3rd world :lol

[midnightpulp]

:lol What a ridiculously painful game that was.

That's why baseball is, in my mind, the best designed major sport on the planet. They keep playing until there's a definitive winner and don't fag out with dumbass minigames.

And out of the major sports, ref/ump influence is minimal. We just need homeplate umps linked to pitchtrax or something and it'll be perfect.

[Clipper Nation]

Cleveland - Toronto just finished. Over 6 hours of playing time but fortunately the score was high.

Oh it was 2-1? nvm then
Notice how it ended with a winner. Not a 0-0 tie like poorball.

:lol Povertyball
:lol Everybody gets a trophy mentality
:lol Official "sport" of Communists and nu-males

[resistanze]

That's why baseball is, in my mind, the best designed major sport on the planet. They keep playing until there's a definitive winner and don't fag out with dumbass minigames.

And out of the major sports, ref/ump influence is minimal. We just need homeplate umps linked to pitchtrax or something and it'll be perfect.

For me there's a limit to that, like when the last two innings are being pitched by your infield. And the umpire sure as hell was influencing that game with his schizophrenic strike zone. An umpire calling a wide/narrow strike zone can basically kill a game for your team.

I could care less for this argument as I watch soccer and baseball, and I find the debate silly (besides for trolling purposes). I grew up watching baseball, but find myself hard pressed to sit through an entire (non-live) game of baseball. The 'boring' argument for a sport will forever be subjective. Money also has little to do with popularity, as the world isn't clamoring to make NASCAR leagues.

I'm not a big fan of penalty shootouts, but I can see why it's used as an alternative to endless sudden death. But trolling shootouts and trolling ties in soccer to me...doesn't make sense.

[Caltex2]

Their enlightened European minds can't comprehend the fact that all of those sports are called "football" because they are ball sports played on foot (as opposed to polo on horseback). It's not a reference to kicking.

:cry "But, but, muh handegg! I'm so clever! Wake up, people, it's the current year!" :cry

Polo and jousting, which was popular in the Middle Ages. The peasants played games on foot, pretty much any code of modern football and more while the elite and royals played games on horseback as well as more sophisticated games, such as chess.

[midnightpulp]

Most valuable sporting events:

http://i.imgur.com/zaD2AO1.png

College basketball is worth more than the UEFA Champions League. :lmao And the World Cup has terrible value for being an event that draws BILLIONS over its span. On a per game basis, the World Series is actually more valuable than the World Cup, since the World Cup will have many more matches.

[Kawhitstorm]

So you post a graph that just further proves my point?

:lol at Our 4 niche sports no one apparently carea about and their professional and amateur leagues (college) being worth more than all the combined povertyball teams/leagues in the world.

Check this graph. 4 American leagues are worth than all the povertyball leagues combined :lmao

http://cdn.howmuch.net/content/images/1600/sports-leagues-by-revenue-9337-c600.jpg

Thus my and CN's point. What good is a billion strong audience if you can't profit from it? And why can't they profit from it like they should? Because 90% of viewership comes from the 3rd world :lol

Dumbass, MLB brings more revenue than the NBA b/c they have MORE GAMES. Meanwhile, the EPL brings more money than the NBA b/c it's more popular.:lol

NFL/CFB brings a ton of money b/c they play in giant stadiums thus have huge gate revenues. The games are also scheduled either in prime time or on weekends to maximize TV viewership which equates to a fat TV rights contract. On the other hand, it's difficult to even follow the major futbol leagues in Europe b/c of time zone differences.

[Kawhitstorm]

Most valuable sporting events:

http://i.imgur.com/zaD2AO1.png

College basketball is worth more than the UEFA Champions League. :lmao And the World Cup has terrible value for being an event that draws BILLIONS over its span. On a per game basis, the World Series is actually more valuable than the World Cup, since the World Cup will have many more matches.

Dumbass, ever heard of this things called COMMERCIALS aka why people even watch the SB!:lol

North American leagues have "TV" timeouts.:lmao

This is how you advertise in Futbol: #cellphone

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--VMCzku21--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/18j5ahi9sjz4yjpg.jpg

[midnightpulp]

For me there's a limit to that, like when the last two innings are being pitched by your infield. And the umpire sure as hell was influencing that game with his schizophrenic strike zone. An umpire calling a wide/narrow strike zone can basically kill a game for your team.

I could care less for this argument as I watch soccer and baseball, and I find the debate silly (besides for trolling purposes). I grew up watching baseball, but find myself hard pressed to sit through an entire (non-live) game of baseball. The 'boring' argument for a sport will forever be subjective. Money also has little to do with popularity, as the world isn't clamoring to make NASCAR leagues.

I'm not a big fan of penalty shootouts, but I can see why it's used as an alternative to endless sudden death. But trolling shootouts and trolling ties in soccer to me...doesn't make sense.

The primary reason baseball is perceived as boring is because of the length of the regular season that makes individual games seem "meaningless" (they really aren't, but perception is reality). I've always been of the firm belief that context has more influence on the entertainment factor of a sport than the actual sport itself. Ex. No one cares about swimming, but put in the context of the Olympics with Michael Phelps going for record golds, and suddenly everyone is a swimming fan. Put baseball in a meaningful post-season situation, and suddenly every pitch is a tension filled event, unlike a July game against the Twins or something.

This is what the NFL has a monopoly on, and even soccer. The shorter seasons in those respective sports turn every game into event worth watching, unlike basketball, baseball, hockey.

And as a sports fan of the sport, it irritates me. People are tuning into watch "events" and "story-lines" rather than the sport itself. Baseball will indeed suffer some in the coming decades, since it's poor at drawing in casual fans who need storylines or star power to stay interested. I also see the NBA and NHL suffering (the NBA can't ride the Lebron gravy train forever. Just look at the ratings when the Spurs and the Pistons were playing each other), and even with Lebron's star power and an NBA Finals anchored by the most compelling story line since the '04 Boston Red Sox, the NBA Finals basically averaged Sunday Night Football ratings (about 18 million).

I also think the US is retardedly obsessed with football (I love the sport [hate GoodellBall, though], but I think it's affecting the popularity of other domestic sports, since the event nature of an NFL game conditioned sports fans over the years to want every game in every sport to be an "event."), but that's another argument.

[midnightpulp]

Dumbass, MLB brings more revenue than the NBA b/c they have MORE GAMES. Meanwhile, the EPL brings more money than the NBA b/c it's more popular.:lol

NFL/CFB brings a ton of money b/c they play in giant stadiums thus have huge gate revenues. The games are also scheduled either in prime time or on weekends to maximize TV viewership which equates to a fat TV rights contract. On the other hand, it's difficult to even follow the major futbol leagues in Europe b/c of time zone differences.

More games also means diminishing returns on a per game basis. A lot of MLB games are played in the afternoon during a weekday. Bad argument.

Of course the EPL is more popular, and it's pathetic they could barely out draw the NBA despite a worldwide audience for regular season games. Meanwhile, NBA regular season games draw about 2 million on average. This further proves the point that the a huge chunk viewerbase are 3rd worlders who aren't worth marketing to for advertisers.

[midnightpulp]

Dumbass, ever heard of this things called COMMERCIALS aka why people even watch the SB!:lol

North American leagues have "TV" timeouts.:lmao

This is how you advertise in Futbol: #cellphone

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--VMCzku21--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/18j5ahi9sjz4yjpg.jpg

Another terrible counterargument. The Superbowl draws TWICE as much revenue than the ENTIRE World Cup event, from group games to knockout matches. In total, the World Cup will actually have more broadcast time that can be used for commercials. The Superbowl will have 50 commercials during the game. If a soccer match averages just 2 commercials per half-time, then it will have many more commercials than a single Super Bowl game. The World Cup has 63 total matches. I don't recall how many commercials there are during half-time for a soccer match, but I'd be willing to bet it's more than 2. So conceivably, the World Cup can have 200 commercials total.

And yet, they draw 50% less revenue :lmao

Once again proving the point that the majority of fans are 3rd Worlders. Nothing wrong with being poor, but the povertyball name is apt :toast

[Kawhitstorm]

More games also means diminishing returns on a per game basis. A lot of MLB games are played in the afternoon during a weekday. Bad argument.

Of course the EPL is more popular, and it's pathetic they could barely out draw the NBA despite a worldwide audience for regular season games. Meanwhile, NBA regular season games draw about 2 million on average. This further proves the point that the a huge chunk viewerbase are 3rd worlders who aren't worth marketing to for advertisers.

Wealthy yanks refuse to invest in the MLS b/c North American sports leagues make a majority of their money by selling ads to obese couch potatoes via "commercial breaks".:lol (75% of the SB audience tunes in just to watch the commercials, they can't even name one player if you put a gun to their head unless it's Brady or Manning)

[Kawhitstorm]

Another terrible counterargument. The Superbowl draws TWICE as much revenue than the ENTIRE World Cup event, from group games to knockout matches. In total, the World Cup will actually have more broadcast time that can be used for commercials. The Superbowl will have 50 commercials during the game. If a soccer match averages just 2 commercials per half-time, then it will have many more commercials than a single Super Bowl game. The World Cup has 63 total matches. I don't recall how many commercials there are during half-time for a soccer match, but I'd be willing to bet it's more than 2. So conceivably, the World Cup can have 200 commercials total.

Bruh, halftime is when I take a break just like folks in the stadium. Are you seriously trying to compare the viewership of a 15 minute halftime break to 2 minute commercial break?:lol (Imagine if there were no timeouts in the NBA but just a halftime break)

[Splits]

Indians vs Blow Jobs ended 2-1 after SIX HOURS AND THIRTEEN MINUTES, the equivalent of more than 4 football matches

Nationals vs Reds ended 3-2 after FOUR HOURS AND THIRTY MINUTES, the equivalent of 3 football matches

And that's just tonight, 1/162. Who the fuck would sit through an entire game like these?

Answer: nobody

[midnightpulp]

Wealthy yanks refuse to invest in the MLS b/c North American sports leagues make a majority of their money by selling ads to obese couch potatoes via "commercial breaks".:lol (75% of the SB audience tunes in just to watch the commercials, they can't even name one player if you put a gun to their head unless it's Brady or Manning)

Povertyball uses a pay-per-view model:


Best leagues in Europe are almost always on pay channels, which end up cashing in serious sums of money from fans, especially from pubs and cafés that show the game to their guests.

http://sports.stackexchange.com/questions/1890/how-do-soccer-broadcasts-make-money

No one here is going to pay 9.99 per month or whatever to watch the shitty MLS. Majority of Americans wouldn't even pay for the NBA, MLB, NHL. The NFL would probably be the exception, though.

Broadcasters are going always want their slice, whether via pay-per-view or commercials.

I'd rather watch commercials than pay for it, especially considering I would be only following one team. League Pass bends you over the barrel here. The total package is 199.99. The Spurs package was 119. Trust me, I'd rather put up with watching a few commercials if it meant I could get Spurs games here in Cali on a regular channel.

[midnightpulp]

Bruh, halftime is when I take a break just like folks in the stadium. Are you seriously trying to compare the viewership of a 15 minute halftime break to 2 minute commercial break?:lol (Imagine if there were no timeouts in the NBA but just a halftime break)

There's also pre-match time to show commercials.

And not everyone will take a break during half-time. There's still massive revenue potential there.

That's like me saying, "Bruh, I flip the channel during commercials." Which I do, and many people do, but that doesn't reduce their value.

[midnightpulp]

Indians vs Blow Jobs ended 2-1 after SIX HOURS AND THIRTEEN MINUTES, the equivalent of more than 4 football matches

Nationals vs Reds ended 3-2 after FOUR HOURS AND THIRTY MINUTES, the equivalent of 3 football matches

And that's just tonight, 1/162. Who the fuck would sit through an entire game like these?

Answer: nobody

And unlike povertyball, those games didn't end in a meaningless tie, nor were they decided by a stupid minigame :toast

American sports are about definitively deciding a winner, regardless of the time it takes. Povertyball is about chanting or something and being in and out in 2 hours.

[Clipper Nation]

And unlike povertyball, those games didn't end in a meaningless tie, nor were they decided by a stupid minigame :toast

American sports are about definitively deciding a winner, regardless of the time it takes. Povertyball is about chanting or something and being in and out in 2 hours.
Don't forget singing showtunes in the stands like a bunch of faggots :lol

[midnightpulp]

Don't forget singing showtunes in the stands like a bunch of faggots :lol

My theory is that povertyball fans came up with chanting to keep themselves entertained while enduring yet another 0-0 tie.

[Kawhitstorm]

There's also pre-match time to show commercials.

Last I checked every sports league has a pre-game show so it's a wash, a good chunk of the audience also doesn't watch it.


And not everyone will take a break during half-time. There's still massive revenue potential there.

That's like me saying, "Bruh, I flip the channel during commercials." Which I do, and many people do, but that doesn't reduce their value.

Channel flipping is mostly prevalent among folks who watch games by themselves, nobody is flipping channels at a sports bar.:lol

[Clipper Nation]

My theory is that povertyball fans came up with chanting to keep themselves entertained while enduring yet another 0-0 tie.
They have to chant in order to keep themselves awake, tbh.

:lol Snoozeball

[Splits]

And unlike povertyball, those games didn't end in a meaningless tie, nor were they decided by a stupid minigame :toast

American sports are about definitively deciding a winner, regardless of the time it takes. Povertyball is about chanting or something and being in and out in 2 hours.

So you don't count hockey as an "American" sport. Got it.

The fact that a single game out of 162, can last for more than SIX FUCKING HOURS :lmao , and they just wake up and play again the next day tells you all you need to know as to whether or not the sport requires any athleticism. It's for old people who have nothing to do but waste a third of their waking hours watching fat white guys scratch their balls.

And yes, a known start and end time to a game is an attribute, not a detriment. My life doesn't revolve around sports.

[midnightpulp]

Last I checked every sports league has a pre-game show so it's a wash, a good chunk of the audience also doesn't watch it.



Channel flipping is mostly prevalent among folks who watch games by themselves, nobody is flipping channels at a sports bar.:lol

Exactly. And many soccer fans watch games in that environment. When you're at a sportsbar, you usually chat with friends during the commercials/half-time, but the television is still in your general awareness. Advertisers know this and thus try to make commercials "attention grabbing."

And half-time soccer commercials for big events are exactly that. They're slick and high budgeted, meaning advertisers see them as worth investing in. The market just isn't a lucrative as the American market, because, as I said, the majority of those adverts are being seen by 3rd worlders huddled around a black-and-white TV :tol

http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/flamego-fans-watch-soccer-game-on-tv-in-a-favela-da-mare-alley-rio-de-picture-id494598956

Again, nothing wrong with being poor. But ^^^ if that is my primary audience and I'm the President of Advertising at Mercedes, I ain't giving jack shit for ad time.

[Kawhitstorm]

My theory is that povertyball fans came up with chanting to keep themselves entertained while enduring yet another 0-0 tie.

The 7th inning "stretch" was instituted to wake-up folks who are suffering from a food coma after chowing down on greasy hot-dogs & nachos aka the two reason that keeps obese American coming back to the park.:lol (Besibol parks make more from concession sells than gate prices which are laughably dirt cheap thus why folks treat it as a socializing event)

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/07/08/article-2684357-1F75613300000578-273_634x424.jpg

[Splits]

My theory is that povertyball fans came up with chanting to keep themselves entertained while enduring yet another 0-0 tie.

I'd much rather attend a 0-0 tie in 1:45 than a 2-1 "epic" battle of nut-scratching over 6 hours :lmao SIX HOURS? WTF?

[Clipper Nation]

The 7th inning "stretch" was instituted to wake folks up from their food coma after chowing down on greasy hot-dogs & nachos aka the two reason that keeps obese American coming back to the park.:lol (Besibol parks make more from concession sells than gate prices which are laughably dirt cheap thus why folks treat it as a socializing event)

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/07/08/article-2684357-1F75613300000578-273_634x424.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5m57aTSyrT4

[Splits]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5m57aTSyrT4

Notice how all the fans around the passed out drunk guy are having the time of their life while in US cricket the snoozing is almost contagious.

[Kawhitstorm]

Povertyball uses a pay-per-view model:

I watch the EPL for free by using a proxy to access the UK BBC site.:lol

[Splits]

I watch the EPL for free by using a proxy to access the UK BBC site.:lol

Check out Kodi: https://kodi.tv/

Can watch anything (movies, TV series, live TV) for free. Takes some tech knowledge to get it setup, but it ain't that hard. I put it on a $39 Amazon firestick and can basically cut all cords. You can also run it off your pooter.

[Clipper Nation]

Notice how all the fans around the passed out drunk guy are having the time of their life while in US cricket the snoozing is almost contagious.
Snoozeball fans have to chant and sing showtunes during all those 0-0 ties or else they end up like that guy.

:lol Third-world kickball

[midnightpulp]

So you don't count hockey as an "American" sport. Got it.

The fact that a single game out of 162, can last for more than SIX FUCKING HOURS :lmao , and they just wake up and play again the next day tells you all you need to know as to whether or not the sport requires any athleticism. It's for old people who have nothing to do but waste a third of their waking hours watching fat white guys scratch their balls.

And yes, a known start and end time to a game is an attribute, not a detriment. My life doesn't revolve around sports.

Hockey doesn't employ shootouts in the playoffs. But yeah, I don't like ties in any context. Even hockey fan CN would agree.

Since when is the only athletic trait "stamina?"

When I was younger, I would play 4 and more hours of basketball every day, during the summer, and be totally fine to do it again the next day (I would guess a lot of people on this board did the same). And I would see guys on the court basically all day, doing it every day. So basketball doesn't require any athleticism now?

Stamina is the easiest shit to train up. Soccer players lightly jogging around for 90 minutes isn't all that impressive nor demanding as you povertyball fans make it out to be. Strength training is the real bitch, and NFL, MLB players put considerably more time into that area than bird-chested Messi.

Just look at that AMAZING endurance on display. They are constantly running and never just stand around!

http://i.imgur.com/pX5z7x4.gif

[Splits]

Hockey doesn't employ shootouts in the playoffs. But yeah, I don't like ties in any context. Even hockey fan CN would agree.

Since when is the only athletic trait "stamina?"

When I was younger, I would play 4 and more hours of basketball every day, during the summer, and be totally fine to do it again the next day (I would guess a lot of people on this board did the same). And I would see guys on the court basically all day, doing it every day. So basketball doesn't require any athleticism now?

Stamina is the easiest shit to train up. Soccer players lightly jogging around for 90 minutes isn't all that impressive nor demanding as you povertyball fans make it out to be. Strength training is the real bitch, and NFL, MLB players put considerably more time into that area than bird-chested Messi.

Just look at that AMAZING endurance on display. They are constantly running and never just stand around!

http://i.imgur.com/pX5z7x4.gif


SIX HOURS AND THIRTEEN MINUTES :lmao

[Kawhitstorm]

Notice how all the fans around the passed out drunk guy are having the time of their life while in US cricket the snoozing is almost contagious.

Not to mention the gringo is the size of a whale.:lol

[midnightpulp]

Notice how all the fans around the passed out drunk guy are having the time of their life while in US cricket the snoozing is almost contagious.

Baseball fans are so passionate, having the time of their lives to the point where they don't even let a player perform a homerun trot:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS6HGwoRrkY

Meanwhile, soccer fans destroy cities fighting over a tie game :lmao

[Spurs 4 The Win]

Hockey doesn't employ shootouts in the playoffs. But yeah, I don't like ties in any context. Even hockey fan CN would agree.

Since when is the only athletic trait "stamina?"

When I was younger, I would play 4 and more hours of basketball every day, during the summer, and be totally fine to do it again the next day (I would guess a lot of people on this board did the same). And I would see guys on the court basically all day, doing it every day. So basketball doesn't require any athleticism now?

Stamina is the easiest shit to train up. Soccer players lightly jogging around for 90 minutes isn't all that impressive nor demanding as you povertyball fans make it out to be. Strength training is the real bitch, and NFL, MLB players put considerably more time into that area than bird-chested Messi.

Just look at that AMAZING endurance on display. They are constantly running and never just stand around!

http://i.imgur.com/pX5z7x4.gif

Soccer is A LOT of running, dont kid yourself based off of a cherry picked clip. At the highest level it takes insane amounts of stamina to make it through a game.

[Clipper Nation]

SIX HOURS AND THIRTEEN MINUTES :lmao
Meanwhile, I can't even watch one second of soccer without yawning and dozing off :lol

[midnightpulp]

SIX HOURS AND THIRTEEN MINUTES :lmao

You say that like it's a bad thing.

Sports that can end in a tie aren't real sports. They're events. Soccer fans treat the game like a television show or a movie. "Don't worry, hun, we'll be out of there in 2 hours. We'll do some chanting and have plenty of time to head over to your mother's afterward." American sports fans treat their sports like sports.

[Kawhitstorm]

SIX HOURS AND THIRTEEN MINUTES :lmao

http://www.allsportstalk.net/wp-content/uploads/low-attendance.jpg

[midnightpulp]

Soccer is A LOT of running, dont kid yourself based off of a cherry picked clip. At the highest level it takes insane amounts of stamina to make it through a game.

Running isn't shit. It's the most popular sporting activity in US, despite the fact we're all obese. Every fuckin' day I'm bombarded on facebook with updates by friends who ran 5, 8, 10 miles or whatever.

[Splits]

Baseball fans are so passionate, having the time of their lives to the point where they don't even let a player perform a homerun trot:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS6HGwoRrkY

Meanwhile, soccer fans destroy cities fighting over a tie game :lmao

If fans rushed the field like that in this era, they would be shot dead

:lol Today's MLB

[midnightpulp]

http://www.allsportstalk.net/wp-content/uploads/low-attendance.jpg

0-0 ties.


In 126 Years, English Football Has Seen 13,475 Nil-Nil Draws

:lmao

What a shitty fuckin' "sport."

:cry But at least I'm out in 2 hours :cry

[Kawhitstorm]

Sports that can end in a tie aren't real sports.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Af6MKCXiR2c/maxresdefault.jpg

http://www.wizzed.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/1236.jpg

[Splits]

You say that like it's a bad thing.

Sports that can end in a tie aren't real sports. They're events. Soccer fans treat the game like a television show or a movie. "Don't worry, hun, we'll be out of there in 2 hours. We'll do some chanting and have plenty of time to head over to your mother's afterward." American sports fans treat their sports like sports.

That is so stupid on it's face I know you don't even believe it. Try convincing ANYONE you know, wife, girlfriend, best friend, whoever, that you're going to sit down in a stadium and stay for SIX HOURS to see the outcome of a meaningless 1/162 and then get back to me. I bet you've never even done it all alone.

[midnightpulp]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Af6MKCXiR2c/maxresdefault.jpg

http://www.wizzed.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/1236.jpg

I don't like it, and it does happen, but less than 1% of the time:


In the NFL, tie games were commonplace during the early stages of the league, as overtime was only played during the postseason. From 1920 to 1973, any regular season game that was tied at the end of regulation would be scored as a tie, and so the league had 258 such games until a rule change came into effect to start the 1974 season. This extended the overtime rule to the regular season, awarding a victory to the first team who scored during the overtime period.

These rules remained unchanged from 1974 until 2011, and so ties became practically a freak occurrence that happened only once every few years. In that span, only 17 games ended in a draw, with only 2 of them coming from 1998 to 2011.

So 275 instances over the NFL history. Let's give the NFL 99.9999% real sport status then.

Meanwhile:


In 126 Years, English Football Has Seen 13,475 Nil-Nil Draws

And that's just 0-0 ties :lmao. Do the math, and we're talking over 100 zero-zero ties per fuckin' year :lol

BRB, finding out how many ties there's been overall.

Ah...

http://i1.wp.com/espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/roeder-feature-soccerboring-2.png?quality=90&strip=all&w=575

Near 30% :lol

So I'll grant soccer about 70% real sport status, but when I factor in diving and the fact important matches end in a Mario Party style minigame, I'll bring it down to about 50%

Sounds about right to me :toast

[Kawhitstorm]

And half-time soccer commercials for big events are exactly that. They're slick and high budgeted, meaning advertisers see them as worth investing in. The market just isn't a lucrative as the American market, because, as I said, the majority of those adverts are being seen by 3rd worlders huddled around a black-and-white TV

The entire halftime for for the Champions league is sponsored by Heineken, they just remind the audience to take a bathroom break & grab another beer for the 2nd half.:lol


But ^^^ if that is my primary audience and I'm the President of Advertising at Mercedes, I ain't giving jack shit for ad time.

The halftime for the EPL is sponsored by online gambling websites, I guess the audience doesn't have expendable income.:lol

[midnightpulp]

That is so stupid on it's face I know you don't even believe it. Try convincing ANYONE you know, wife, girlfriend, best friend, whoever, that you're going to sit down in a stadium and stay for SIX HOURS to see the outcome of a meaningless 1/162 and then get back to me. I bet you've never even done it all alone.

Dude, those games are a relative rarity.

I can also choose not to stay if I have engagements that preclude it, but at least I know my team gets a definitive result. As an athlete, it would be more frustrating to play for 3 or 4 hours only for the match to end up in a tie. I bet if you were to poll pro soccer players, a good majority of them would be against ties, as any sportsman would.

If the Spurs were in some 6 hour long OT regular season battle with the hated Warriors or Lakers, I would want a result, even if I couldn't watch the entire match. The team already made their money. Let the players decide the outcome.

[midnightpulp]

The entire halftime for for the Champions league is sponsored by Heineken, they just remind the audience to take a bathroom break & grab another beer for the 2nd half.:lol



The halftime for the EPL is sponsored by online gambling websites, I guess the audience doesn't have expendable income.:lol

The adverts you get depend on where you're watching.

[Splits]

Dude, those games are a relative rarity.


Yeah, except just tonight one game lasted 6:13 and another 4:30 :lmao

Complete waste of time for all parties involved.

[midnightpulp]

Yeah, except just tonight one game lasted 6:13 and another 4:30 :lmao

Complete waste of time for all parties involved.

Average baseball game is under 3 hours.

Given the fact you love all European sports, where's your rallying cry against cricket that can have instances of a ONE batter hitting for 10 or more hours? Or tennis, which can last 4 or more hours (and has the most repetitive action of any major sport)? Or golf (something tells me you don't like golf, though)?

Baseball is actually pretty middle of the road time wise.

[Kawhitstorm]

And that's just 0-0 ties :lmao. Do the math, and we're talking over 100 zero-zero ties per fuckin' year :lol

BRB, finding out how many ties there's been overall.

Dumbass, there is no such thing a tie in a knockout stage.:lol




http://i1.wp.com/espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/roeder-feature-soccerboring-2.png?quality=90&strip=all&w=575




LAS VEGAS – The National Hockey League Board of Governors today approved rules changes for the 2015-16 season that will change the overtime format to 3-on-3 for five minutes, expand the use of video review to include a Coach's Challenge within a limited scope of scenarios and amend face-off protocol.

The Board acted on the series of recommendations it received from the NHL/NHLPA Competition Committee and the NHL General Managers.

4. If the game remains tied at the end of the five (5) minute overtime period, the teams will proceed to a three-round shootout. After each team has taken three shots, if the score remains tied, the shootout will proceed to a "sudden death" format.:cryWanna-be-like-futbol:cry

[Kawhitstorm]

The adverts you get depend on where you're watching.

Only ads that promote compulsive behavior are applicable to futbol b/c nobody is paying attention to the halftime show after the first 30 seconds while they are walking to the restroom.:lol (Ain't nobody watching a 2 minutes Verizon ad)

[Kawhitstorm]

If fans rushed the field like that in this era, they would be shot dead

:lol Today's MLB

They were trying to shoot Hank Aron in 1976 for breaking Babe "The Great White Hope" Ruths' HR record.:lol

[Splits]

Average baseball game is under 3 hours.

Given the fact you love all European sports, where's your rallying cry against cricket that can have instances of a ONE batter hitting for 10 or more hours? Or tennis, which can last 4 or more hours (and has the most repetitive action of any major sport)? Or golf (something tells me you don't like golf, though)?

Baseball is actually pretty middle of the road time wise.

THREE HOURS on average? With 162+playoffs? :lmao

Fuck cricket (don't even know the rules) and golf. Tennis majors are decent, but I would never watch a full men's match unless it is the finals, just from the 3rd set on. Shit, I didn't even watch the NBA Finals from start to finish. The only games I can watch from beginning to end are Spurs or games I bet with you. And major tournament football matches, since I know when they start and end. I've got a busy life, sports are a hobby not an obsession.

:lmao SIX HOURS

[midnightpulp]

Dumbass, there is no such thing a tie in a knockout stage.:lol



[B]:cryWanna-be-like-futbol:cry

Yeah, it just ends in a Mario Party minigame :lmao

"Spurs and Warriors are still tied after 2 OTs. Time for the 3 point shootout!"

I'm against the shootout in hockey. Unlike povertyball fans, I can be honest about the flaws with American sports. You guys treat soccer like a fuckin' sacred idol that "thou should not take its name in vain."

Baseball:

- Link umps up with pitchtrax.

- Fuck the Buster Posey and Wilmer Flores rules and bring back collisions.

- Get rid of divisions. American and National League only. Top 4 teams in each league makes the post-season.

Keep everything else the same, though. I don't give a shit about what "casuals" want. Shortening the regular season to something like 82 games would make the MLB a star driven league and make roster building a simplistic joke. Also against a pitch clock. People who never played baseball really don't understand how mentally draining pitching is and you need time to psychologically reset after a pitch.

NFL

- Fuck Goodellball (listing all the problems here would bore you more than soccer bores me).

- Get rid of divisions.

NBA

- Refine rules so that defenders don't get whistled for being within 20 feet of a "star" perimeter player.

- Need much more referee consistency. Not sure how that will ever be possible since the NBA is too fast paced for a ref to see everything.

- All timeouts called within the last 2 minutes are reduced to 20 seconds. More than enough time for Lue to tell Lebron to take it the hole.

[Caltex2]

http://i.imgur.com/Omueakc.jpg

I don't see the point in this exercise, you can do it with any sport, especially easy ones to play like basketball but even ones really expensive and hard to play like hockey:

http://www.borgenmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/basketball_in_poor_places.jpg

http://www.thebetterindia.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/1.jpg

http://www.trbimg.com/img-4ff62f47/turbine/la-fg-india-golf06.jpg-20120705/600

That said, soccer is the easiest and least expensive to play followed by basketball.

[midnightpulp]

THREE HOURS on average? With 162+playoffs? :lmao

Fuck cricket (don't even know the rules) and golf. Tennis majors are decent, but I would never watch a full men's match unless it is the finals, just from the 3rd set on. Shit, I didn't even watch the NBA Finals from start to finish. The only games I can watch from beginning to end are Spurs or games I bet with you. And major tournament football matches, since I know when they start and end. I've got a busy life, sports are a hobby not an obsession.

:lmao SIX HOURS

Soccer games are about 2 hours on average when you factor in half-time and injury time. Baseball isn't much longer on average.

Baseball is also the evening's entertainment for a lot of people in lieu of watching 3 hours of shitty and unfunny sitcoms or reality shows. It's why baseball crushes it in local ratings.

I get not having time to follow sports. I don't religiously watch as much as you might think. I just don't want to see a sport comprised to appeal to reality show obsessed dipshits who spend 5 hours on twitter. I'm even against reforming test cricket, despite me knowing little about it.

[Kawhitstorm]

Yeah, it just ends in a Mario Party minigame :lmao

"Spurs and Warriors are still tied after 2 OTs. Time for the 3 point shootout!"

Ever heard of FTs & intentional fouls.:lol (Game decided by a shot a 10 year old girl can convert at a proficient rate)


Keep everything else the same, though. I don't give a shit about what "casuals" want. Shortening the regular season to something like 82 games would make the MLB a star driven league and make roster building a simplistic joke. Also against a pitch clock. People who never played baseball really don't understand how mentally draining pitching is and you need time to psychologically reset after a pitch.

It would help if the batters didn't call a timeout to spit on their glove & adjust their wardrobe after they already did it before they stepped into the batters box.:lol (They're like chicks who have to fix their hair & makeup every 5 minutes)

[Splits]

Yeah, it just ends in a Mario Party minigame :lmao

"Spurs and Warriors are still tied after 2 OTs. Time for the 3 point shootout!"

I'm against the shootout in hockey. Unlike povertyball fans, I can be honest about the flaws with American sports. You guys treat soccer like a fuckin' sacred idol that "thou should not take its name in vain."

Baseball:

- Link umps up with pitchtrax.

- Fuck the Buster Posey and Wilmer Flores rules and bring back collisions.

- Get rid of divisions. American and National League only. Top 4 teams in each league makes the post-season.

Keep everything else the same, though. I don't give a shit about what "casuals" want. Shortening the regular season to something like 82 games would make the MLB a star driven league and make roster building a simplistic joke. Also against a pitch clock. People who never played baseball really don't understand how mentally draining pitching is and you need time to psychologically reset after a pitch.

NFL

- Fuck Goodellball (listing all the problems here would bore you more than soccer bores me).

- Get rid of divisions.

NBA

- Refine rules so that defenders don't get whistled for being within 20 feet of a "star" perimeter player.

- Need much more referee consistency. Not sure how that will ever be possible since the NBA is too fast paced for a ref to see everything.

- All timeouts called within the last 2 minutes are reduced to 20 seconds. More than enough time for Lue to tell Lebron to take it the hole.

I actually agree. With football:

- Make offside calls less likely. If the attacking player is not completely ahead of the defender, but anywhere behind (i.e. if attacking player back foot behind defender front foot, it is not offsides), it is a legal play

- Discourage penaldos in knockout stages by


allowing additional substitutions
give each team a time out to catch their breathe
allow re-entry of substituted players
instead of two 15 minute extra time periods, single 45 minute extra time and "golden goal" where first team that scores wins


I'd love to see a way to get away from penaldos, but just don't think it is possible given the crazy demands on the players to compete for every ball and the scarcity of scoring. The offside changes mentioned above would make scoring easier, thus less chance for ties/penaldos.

[Splits]

Baseball isn't much longer on average.


Yes it is. Purely from first pitch to final score, it is 33% longer. If you factor in all of the additional delays (not starting at the top of the hour, rain, wind, fights, etc) it is even more. With football, it starts at exactly the same time every time, you can skip the halftime nonsense, and it ends exactly 1:45 from the time it began. Quite convenient for those of us who keep a schedule/have kids/have lives.

[midnightpulp]

Ever heard of FTs & intentional fouls.:lol (Game decided by a shot a 10 year old girl can convert at a proficient rate)



It would help if the batters didn't call a timeout to spit on their glove & adjust their wardrobe after they already did it before they stepped into the batters box.:lol (They're like chicks who have to fix their hair & makeup every 5 minutes)

Free throws are an inherent part of basketball, though. Just like a penalty kick in soccer.

I'm against the shootout concept because it's an arbitrary minigame that barely resembles the main game. I don't care how dramatic they are. It's a silly way to decide a major match.

And if the NBA adopted something like it, I would boycott.

I'm not attacking soccer, but it's implementation of the shootout. In the old days, I read that tie games would just keep on going until someone won, even if they had to play the match on a different day (i.e. game is called after 120 minutes and continued the following day or week or whatever).

And yes, I do realize the logistical problems of doing such a thing today when you have people traveling from thousands of miles to a World Cup Final. The shootout was added to literally attract and pacify the viewer rather than "improve" the sport.

[midnightpulp]

I actually agree. With football:

- Make offside calls less likely. If the attacking player is not completely ahead of the defender, but anywhere behind (i.e. if attacking player back foot behind defender front foot, it is not offsides), it is a legal play

- Discourage penaldos in knockout stages by


allowing additional substitutions
give each team a time out to catch their breathe
allow re-entry of substituted players
instead of two 15 minute extra time periods, single 45 minute extra time and "golden goal" where first team that scores wins


I'd love to see a way to get away from penaldos, but just don't think it is possible given the crazy demands on the players to compete for every ball and the scarcity of scoring. The offside changes mentioned above would make scoring easier, thus less chance for ties.

Yeah, the fact soccer doesn't have unlimited subs baffles me. I assume it was to test endurance or whatever, but we have to remember when this rule was codified: during a period in which I'm sure soccer was a much less athletic and up-and-down game. Basketball is seeing the same thing now. Players could easily go 48 minutes in the time of Wilt and Russell, but now with all the space they have to cover defending the 3, that's no longer feasible. But basketball has unlimited subs.

[Kawhitstorm]

I actually agree. With football:

- Make offside calls less likely. If the attacking player is not completely ahead of the defender, but anywhere behind (i.e. if attacking player back foot behind defender front foot, it is not offsides), it is a legal play

That would alleviate the controversy when it comes to the game of inches especially if teams (Italy) are playing the offside trap.:lol




instead of two 15 minute extra time periods, single 45 minute extra time and "golden goal" where first team that scores wins


I'd love to see a way to get away from penaldos, but just don't think it is possible given the crazy demands on the players to compete for every ball and the scarcity of scoring. The offside changes mentioned above would make scoring easier, thus less chance for ties.

Fans prefer the "Golden Goal" but players on the losing sides hated the "Sudden Death" which was why it got revoked.:lol

[Arcadian]

What point are you ultimately trying to make? This seems to be a debate about which sport is more associated with poverty. What does that mean? Are you implying that poor people are generally worse and have worse opinions?

[Splits]

Yeah, the fact soccer doesn't have unlimited subs baffles me. I assume it was to test endurance or whatever, but we have to remember when this rule was codified: during a period in which I'm sure soccer was a much less athletic and up-and-down game. Basketball is seeing the same thing now. Players could easily go 48 minutes in the time of Wilt and Russell, but now with all the space they have to cover defending the 3, that's no longer feasible. But basketball has unlimited subs.

Basketball, and to some degree US football and beisbol, have allowed their game to evolve. With football, it is like the rules were codified in stone at inception and any changes are :cry an affront to the integrity of the game :cry It is frustrating, but when the game is played in all 196 countries, and is so meaningful to a majority of people globally, rule changes are like an aircraft carrier doing a 180.

Basketball has somehow instituted different rules for different leagues (3pt line distance, goaltending rules, lane violations, etc). Seems impossible for a universal sport like football.

[Kawhitstorm]

Yeah, the fact soccer doesn't have unlimited subs baffles me. I assume it was to test endurance or whatever, but we have to remember when this rule was codified: during a period in which I'm sure soccer was a much less athletic and up-and-down game.

Futbol doesn't have unlimited subs to prevent teams from using enforcers who can get away w/ a yellow card warning. The main strategy against proficient strikers such as Messi/CR7 is to foul them when they are dribbling in open space & eat the yellow which means the defenders are at the risk of getting sent off b/c all the offenders can't be subbed out.

If they had unlimited subs then teams like Italy would just muck up EVERY game like the Bad Boys Pistons.:lol

[Stalin]

What point are you ultimately trying to make? This seems to be a debate about which sport is more associated with poverty. What does that mean? Are you implying that poor people are generally worse and have worse opinions?


:lol

[Splits]

I do have to say, the lack of creativity for football haters on ST is pathetic. While you may think "povertyball" or "poorball" is funny (it isn't), the actual criticism of international football should be the shocking and ongoing corruption scandal. The true, accurate criticism is the fact that FIFA is run like a mafia and almost every top official over the past 20 years is under investigation or prosecution for screwing the world's poor/middle-class to enrich themselves.

I mean the next WC is going to be held in Russia and the one after in fucking Qatar. That is a REAL scandal and should be constantly pounded upon.

But, unsurprisingly, when an effort led by the likes of CN to try and de-legitimatize something he doesn't like, the least common denominator ends up being something stupid :cry povertyball :cry instead of an accurate assault.

Weak shit, tbh. Pretty sad that a quality poster like Mid has fallen into a shitposter like CN's mindset.

[Caltex2]

My problem with soccer, one of many actually, is that they all but eliminate the equivalent of a fast break with offsides. It's already hard enough to kick, move the ball and score with your feet but now you can't go to an open player unless there's a defender close by? I understand that you don't want people poaching and for players to play the entire field but it eliminates a lot of would be excitement from soccer.

Imagine if they eliminated the outlet pass from basketball. We'd miss a slam dunk because of a whistle. More futbol games would end 7-6 in regulation if offsides wasn't called like it is. Don't allow obvious poaching but if an offensive player has a break and some space, let him play.

[midnightpulp]

I do have to say, the lack of creativity for football haters on ST is pathetic. While you may think "povertyball" or "poorball" is funny (it isn't), the actual criticism of international football should be the shocking and ongoing corruption scandal. The true, accurate criticism is the fact that FIFA is run like a mafia and almost every top official over the past 20 years is under investigation or prosecution for screwing the world's poor/middle-class to enrich themselves.

I mean the next WC is going to be held in Russia and the one after in fucking Qatar. That is a REAL scandal and should be constantly pounded upon.

But, unsurprisingly, when an effort led by the likes of CN to try and de-legitimatize something he doesn't like, the least common denominator ends up being something stupid :cry povertyball :cry instead of an accurate assault.

Weak shit, tbh. Pretty sad that a quality poster like Mid has fallen into a shitposter like CN's mindset.

"Povertyball" is just the joke name for the sport because of the fact that it's the cheapest major sport to play and thus has devoted following in poorer countries. It's basically caricaturizing a segment of the game's landscape and inflating it for comical/trolling purposes, much like Baseball haters do when they call baseball "fatball."

I could also use the same argument here and say that by calling baseball "fatball" you're devaluing fat people as a result, deeming them less worthy sportsmen/human beings than "shredded" athletes/people.

But I don't think we're taking it that seriously.

I agree about the FIFA corruption, but criticizing it doesn't really strike the nerves of the soccer crew in this pissing contest.

[midnightpulp]

Futbol doesn't have unlimited subs to prevent teams from using enforcers who can get away w/ a yellow card warning. The main strategy against proficient strikers such as Messi/CR7 is to foul them when they are dribbling in open space & eat the yellow which means the defenders are at the risk of getting sent off b/c all the offenders can't be subbed out.

If they had unlimited subs then teams like Italy would just muck up EVERY game like the Bad Boys Pistons.:lol

I would employ hockey rules here and just have fouls result in the player being sent off for 5 minutes or whatever, resulting in a powerplay for the other team.

[TheGreatYacht]

Cuba the best Stickball playing country in the world :lmao

Not that great of an accomplishment bc there's only like 4 countries :lmao

Cuba, Puerto Rico, Us of Gay, Japan :lmao

Communist ball :lmao

If a game isn't on the Olympics, is it even a sport? :lmao

[TheGreatYacht]

Snoozeball :lmao

Try to make it thru 30 seconds of this video :lmao


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEcHZAXSBzc&feature=share

[midnightpulp]

Snoozeball :lmao

Try to make it thru 30 seconds of this video :lmao


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEcHZAXSBzc&feature=share

There was actually considerably more action in that clip than here :lmao:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy91G4N5evo

And the dumb fans are still chanting to keep themselves entertained :lol

[Caltex2]

I do have to say, the lack of creativity for football haters on ST is pathetic. While you may think "povertyball" or "poorball" is funny (it isn't), the actual criticism of international football should be the shocking and ongoing corruption scandal. The true, accurate criticism is the fact that FIFA is run like a mafia and almost every top official over the past 20 years is under investigation or prosecution for screwing the world's poor/middle-class to enrich themselves.



The thing is that people around the world tear into us for not being soccer-mad like them, some even going as far as to say we're not as sophisticated as other places because of our sports choices. A natural rebuttal is that soccer is only the most popular sport because it's easy to play and accessible to everyone and it's true. I don't even like hockey but do you think it's realistic for people around the world to grow up playing it? It's not even realistic to play for much of United States because you need:

1. A ton of expensive equipment or at least a stick

2. Either a cold environment or access to a hockey rink

3. Preferably, you'd also need people to practice against, especially a goalie

Most places I know don't have cold weather and even if there are rinks, they are few and far between. The chances of a pickup game of hockey with skates breaking out around here is about as good as me winning the lottery or being struck by lightening.

Sure, you can even have poor people make the best use of their means and play hockey where they are but it's a much bigger hassle than soccer, basketball or even baseball, thus why those are the most popular games around the world.

[Caltex2]

No talk about today's "thrilling" 1-1 PK win by Germany?

[midnightpulp]

No talk about today's "thrilling" 1-1 PK win by Germany?

I didn't watch live, obviously, but I'm sure it was bad.

[Caltex2]

After 120 minutes of virtual deadlock (hey, they actually scored, I'll give both of them that), they went to Penaldos. After both teams made an excellent percentage of 40% of their first 5 kicks that a 12-year old girl could make (I'm not really exaggerrating IMO), both made their next three before Germany pulled through by stopping Italy once.

Even today's NBA (:lol) can't sink to this level. I'd rather watch a Sixers-Lakers game tbh.

[midnightpulp]

After 120 minutes of virtual deadlock (hey, they actually scored, I'll give both of them that), they went to Penaldos. After both teams made an excellent percentage of 40% of their first 5 kicks a 12 year old girl could make (I'm not really exaggerrating IMO), both made their next three before Germany pulled through by stopping Italy once.

Even today's NBA (:lol) can't sink to this level. I'd rather watch a Sixers-Lakers game tbh.

I'm not even trying to troll the soccer crew here, but as I've said, soccer's core design really is stuck in the 1800s. And it's not about placating the American sensibility of "we want more scoring." All the other major sports on the planet from Rugby to AFL to Cricket to Hurling have a scoring structure and design that produces the punch/counterpunch and comeback factor I always talk about that is essential to sports. It's not even about creating drama, and more about creating more compelling situations from a tactical/strategic perspective.

I understand soccer is all about "anticipation." But other sports do the anticipation dynamic just as well soccer (Baseball: "Can he bring the man home to tie it up or hit a homerun to take the lead?" Football: "Can we stop this 3rd and 2 situation?") in addition to having more variable scoring.

To not turn this thread into another pissing contest. I don't hate soccer as much as I've let on, and when I do watch it, it's more to appreciate the skill factor (I always love a good airborne crossfield pass that lands on a dime. And we all love nutmegs and bicycle kicks) than to "get into the game." A 1-0 lead often times feels like a 30 point lead in the NBA. And there's A LOT of 1-0 games in soccer.


Take the most common final score, for example. In 188,060 league games,2 the final tally was most often 1-0, proof, for Curley, that soccer was as low-scoring as he suspected. This result has occurred in more than 30,000 games — 16 percent of the total. Other common scores: 2-1 (about 27,000 games), 2-0 (about 22,000) and 1-1 (about 22,000).

[Caltex2]

As I said, I understand the idea of poachers sucking the life out of the game but on the other hand, offsides sucks the life out of the game and all but eliminates the soccer equivalent of the basketball fast break. I said it earlier, I'll say it again, imagine if basketball made it illegal to throw an outlet pass to an open player down court. That's one thing offsides often takes away.

Soccer's backers are worse than the Fiddler on the Roof, they're all about their traditions.

[velik_m]

Yeah, the fact soccer doesn't have unlimited subs baffles me. I assume it was to test endurance or whatever, but we have to remember when this rule was codified: during a period in which I'm sure soccer was a much less athletic and up-and-down game. Basketball is seeing the same thing now. Players could easily go 48 minutes in the time of Wilt and Russell, but now with all the space they have to cover defending the 3, that's no longer feasible. But basketball has unlimited subs.

Actually at the start soccer didn't have subs at all. Your player broke a leg? though shit, i guess you're playing with only 10 guys the rest of the game. The subs are were meant for injuries only, not so much for tactical changes. Even as late as 90s you only had 2 subs + 1 one special sub only for goalie. Of course teams are "abusing" the sub system, but i really can't imagine how unlimited subs would work. You would probably have to get way thougher with yellow cards. Maybe a yellow card and you're out of the game, but your team can replace you, and the red card you're out of the game and your team is a player down?

The offside is ok as it is. You want to encourage the D to get out there. If you make it too easy to break the offside trap, the coaches will insist for D players to hang back at the back, leaving the attack with less players to work with and that only makes for a more boring game.

[Caltex2]

I don't think you can possibly make soccer more boring than it already is.

[midnightpulp]

As I said, I understand the idea of poachers sucking the life out of the game but on the other hand, offsides sucks the life out of the game and all but eliminates the soccer equivalent of the basketball fast break. I said it earlier, I'll say it again, imagine if basketball made it illegal to throw an outlet pass to an open player down court. That's one thing offsides often takes away.

Soccer's backers are worse than the Fiddler on the Roof, they're all about their traditions.

I don't demand change, though. If the rest of the world loves it the way it is, live and let live. I just take issue when soccer fans think any American who doesn't like soccer dislikes it out of ignorance, American patriotism, hatred of foreigners, etc.

My issue with soccer has nothing to do with it not being an "American game," but most soccer fans reflexively think that's why Americans don't like it, when in fact most Americans can articulate their problem with it.

[lefty20]

Cuba the best Stickball playing country in the world :lmao

Not that great of an accomplishment bc there's only like 4 countries :lmao

Cuba, Puerto Rico, Us of Gay, Japan :lmao

Communist ball :lmao

If a game isn't on the Olympics, is it even a sport? :lmao

So football is not a sport? Guess they don't count as athletes either.

[spursistan]

Probably the most tactically sophisticated sport in the world, tbh...hence the abundance of draws and close scores even in mismatches....

[TheGreatYacht]

So football is not a sport? Guess they don't count as athletes either.
400 pound men can play that game. Not a sport, tbh.

[Caltex2]

Probably the most tactically sophisticated sport in the world, tbh...hence the abundance of draws and close scores even in mismatches....

It's not as easy as just kicking the ball everywhere but come on, hockey requires more hand-eye coordination and strategy. The goal is much smaller and penalty shots are far, far harder in hockey than in soccer. And while an average person can't just walk on the pitch and dominate, soccer is very easy to learn and excel at, at least compared to other sports. You don't need any size or strength except maybe as a goalie unlike in football or basketball where you can be at a compeitive disadvantage without it. Today's NBA may be a joke but you still need to play the chess match and makes adjustments.

[midnightpulp]

Probably the most tactically sophisticated sport in the world, tbh...hence the abundance of draws and close scores even in mismatches....

Impossible to quantify. But I would say it has more to do with the massive field size and the difficulty of being accurate kicking something.

So many soccer games would have baseball like 7-5 scores and such if the players could finish more consistently. The defense gets beat a lot only for the player to flub an open chance.

Defensive tactics, to me, are also relatively simplistic compared to a sport like basketball. It's why minnow countries can have a puncher's chance against powerhouse because parking-the-bus is such an effective, yet simple to employ, gameplan. The primary reason I say basketball defense is more sophisticated is because it has to be by design, since basketball is an explosive offensive game that produces 100s more offensive chances than soccer. On the flip side, you can say offensive tactics have more depth that basketball because it's harder to create chances.

I know a soccer fan will come here and tell me I don't get it or whatever, but we can say that for all sports when having these pissing contests.

"American football is simple. They just hand it off a fast guy!"

"You don't get it."

Rinse/repeat.

Point is, all major sports will have a similar amount of "depth," because humans are great at turning simple things into complex things.

[DAF86]

I don't demand change, though. If the rest of the world loves it the way it is, live and let live. I just take issue when soccer fans think any American who doesn't like soccer dislikes it out of ignorance, American patriotism, hatred of foreigners, etc.

My issue with soccer has nothing to do with it not being an "American game," but most soccer fans reflexively think that's why Americans don't like it, when in fact most Americans can articulate their problem with it.

As soon as you ger your Tiger Woods in soccer you will all start watching. And when you all start watching you will really get it, and when you really get it you will be "ooooh, now I get it".

'cause that's the problem son. You can state all your problems with soccer on a well articulated way but we true soccer fans read what you are saying and think "meh, this guy thinks he knows the sport but he doesn't really get it" and no matter how much you think you do, you really don't.

If you ever start following it with a passion you will start to understand all the little things that makes this sport so good. You will start noticing the formation shifts. You will see if a team is man marking or playing zone. If it's pressing on zone 3, 2 or 1. When a wing is playing as a forward or as a midfielder. When the holding midfielder has to become a third central defender. And a bunch of other stuff that keeps us true fans hooked while casual fans just see a ball being kicked around.

[midnightpulp]

As soon as you ger your Tiger Woods in soccer you will all start watching. And when you all start watching you will really get it, and when you really get it you will be "ooooh, now I get it".

'cause that's the problem son. You can state all your problems with soccer on a well articulated way but we true soccer fans read what you are saying and think "meh, this guy thinks he knows the sport but he doesn't really get it" and no matter how much you think you do, you really don't.

If you ever start follow it with a passion you will start to understand all the little things that makes this sport so good. You will start noticing the formation shifts. You will see if a team is man marking or playing zone. If it's pressing on zone 3, 2 or 1. When a wing is playing as a forward or as a midfielder. When the holding midfielder has to become a third central defender. And a bunch of other stuff that keeps us true fans hooked while casual fans just see a ball being kicked around.

None of that so-called "tactical depth" impresses me when I've been watching the NFL for over 20 years. Sorry. But soccer is not as strategically or tactically as interesting as the NFL.

Also, you're under the impression that "getting it" will automatically translate into fandom. I "get" plenty of things I don't necessarily like.

I can write you a 100 page dissertation on the strategy and tactics of baseball (baseball has, by far, the most complex roster building challenge of out any major sport in the world. And the pitcher/batter matchup is like a mini-chess match in real time), and you'll never come around because you simply don't like the game's flow or aesthetics. End of the day, you need to see people running around to be entertained. End of the day for me, I need to see a punch/counterpunch and "shootout" dynamic to be entertained.

Not everyone has to be a fan of the "World's Game."

[DAF86]

None of that so-called "tactical depth" impresses me when I've been watching the NFL for over 20 years. Sorry. But soccer is not as strategically or tactically as interesting as the NFL.

Also, you're under the impression that "getting it" will automatically translate into fandom. I "get" plenty of things I don't necessarily like.

I can write you a 100 page dissertation on the strategy and tactics of baseball (baseball has, by far, the most complex roster building challenge of out any major sport in the world. And the pitcher/batter matchup is like a mini-chess match in real time), and you'll never come around because you simply don't like the game's flow or aesthetics. End of the day, you need to see people running around to be entertained. End of the day for me, I need to see a punch/counterpunch and "shootout" dynamic to be entertained.

Not everyone has to be a fan of the "World's Game."

Dude, you don't get it. If you could see yourself through my eyes you would get just how much you don't get it. :lol

And son, I'm in advantage against you 'cause I do like, and know, the NFL. And believe it or not I followed basseball for some time there. The thought of baseball being a complex game is just insulting. Please stop insulting my intelligence. :lol

[midnightpulp]

Dude, you don't get it. If you could see yourself through my eyes you would get just how much you don't get it. :lol

And son, I'm in advantage against you 'cause I do like, and know, the NFL. And believe it or not I followed basseball for some time there. The thought of baseball being a complex game is just insulting. Please stop insulting my intelligence. :lol

"The you just don't get it defense."

On cue.

As for baseball not being complex, go buy a general manager simulation like OOTP baseball, and build a team. You'll finish last in the standings every time. Go buy a basketball GM sim, and you can win the title with your eyes closed. (I also seriously doubt you "followed" baseball with any degree of seriousness. Probably just watched a few games and since there wasn't enough running around to keep your "intelligence" occupied, you quickly gave up.)

:lol a game in which parking-the-bus is such an effective strategy being "complex."

"But the players are constantly shifting formations and employing defensive zones."

Wow. Mind blown.

Again, no one raised on American sports is going to be bowled over by soccer's "tactics."

[DAF86]

"The you just don't get it defense."

On cue.

As for baseball not being complex, go buy a general manager simulation like OOTP baseball, and build a team. You'll finish last in the standings every time. Go buy a basketball GM sim, and you can win the title with your eyes closed. (I also seriously doubt you "followed" baseball with any degree of seriousness. Probably just watched a few games and since there wasn't enough running around to keep your "intelligence" occupied, you quickly gave up.)

:lol a game in which parking-the-bus is such an effective strategy being "complex."

"But the players are constantly shifting formations and employing defensive zones."

Wow. Mind blown.

Again, no one raised on American sports is going to be bowled over by soccer's "tactics."

I would bet you my house that if you were to see a soccer game of some random teams you could watch the entire game and you wouldn't be able to tell me what formation each team used. Or what position each player is playing.

I, on the other hand, can tell you in just seconds what type of formation an NFL team is going to use in any given play. And basseball, well, that game is so complex that formation changes aren't even an option (except when they all shift a little to the right, or a little to the left depending if they're facing a right handed or left handed power hitter. Oh, oh, I was forgetting, a little to the back, or a little to the front too.) :lol

[midnightpulp]

I would bet you my house that if you were to see a soccer game of some random teams you could watch the entire game and you wouldn't be able to tell me what fotmation each team used.

I, on the other hand, can tell you in just seconds what type of formation an NFL team is going to use in any given play. And basseball, well, that game is so complex that formation changes aren't even an option (except when they all shift a little to the right, or a little to the left depending if they're facing a right handed or left handed power hitter. Oh, oh, I was forgetting, a little to the back, or a little to the front too.) :lol

You're probably right, but you miss the point I'm making that there is nothing particularly complex about formation shifts, zones, employing tactics that create crossmatches and employing tactics to counter those tactics.

I also think every sports fan in the world overrates the "complexity" of their favorite sport and sports in general. Tactics are relatively simple to design and employ. Even Pop said, "We know what every team is going to do and they know what we're going to do. It's who executes better than wins." End of the day, skill wins out.

As for baseball, you're confusing strategy with tactics. Baseball's complexity isn't necessarily out there in the open field, but the matchup between the pitcher-and-batter. The count alone can dramatically change what pitch the pitcher is going to throw, where he is going to locate it, how he'll deceptively use arm speed, and the batter has to devise a counterstrategy here and predict what the pitcher will do, meaning drawing on the dozens to hundreds of at bats he had against this particular pitcher and all the hours of film he watched on this pitcher. And when the count changes again, he'll have to completely reset and do it all it over again.

You just see one guy throwing hard and another swinging. There's a whole science behind both hitting and pitching.

But that said, the real complexity of baseball comes from roster building. There's no signing a couple of hotshot free agents and then easily making the playoffs next season, like in basketball. No simply pairing Messi with Xavi and Iniesta and dominating the Spanish League.

And in addition to building your primary team's roster, you have to make sure your 3 feeder farm teams are equally as well built to keep feeding the main team prospects. There's no drafting a Tim Duncan here and being essentially guaranteed a decade of playoff appearances.

This is why Ivy League grads run baseball FOs and morons like Mitch Kupchak are well paid NBA GMs.

http://www.dailynews.com/sports/20151114/major-league-baseball-general-managers-include-10-ivy-leaguers

[DAF86]

Too late down here to get in another one of those back and forths arguments. I'm just gonna say that you are wrong if you think just throwing money at talented folks guarantees you success in soccer. You still have to account for chemistry and roster balance to make it all work, just like in any other sport. I don't know why you are making it seem like baseball is so special in this regard when its winningest franchise ever is the Yankees who are famously known for being the biggest money throwing franchise in the history of sports. They just sign the other team's best players and accomplish success at a higher rate than any other franchise in basseball.

Basseball can have its level of complexity, but it just doesn't match up with the level of cpmplexity of other sports, tbh.

[midnightpulp]

Too late down here to get in another one of those back and forths arguments. I'm just gonna say that you are wrong if you think just throwing money at talented folks guarantees you success in soccer. You still have to account for chemistry and roster balance to make it all work, just like in any other sport. I don't know why you are making it seem like baseball is so special in this regard when its winningest franchise ever is the Yankees who are famously known for being the biggest money throwing franchise in the history of sports. They just sign the other team's best players and accomplish success at a higher rate than any other franchise in basseball.

Basseball can have its level of complexity, but it just doesn't match up with the level of cpmplexity of other sports, tbh.

The advent of sabermetrics changed all that. And besides, you have to remember that the Yankees have played in 112 MLB seasons. World series win rate: 24%. Boston Celtics NBA title win rate: 26%. Real Madrid Title Win Rate: 37%. And 24 times they finished runner up :lol

And see here.Baseball has the most parity of American sports, despite no salary cap.

http://orig11.deviantart.net/30c3/f/2012/337/e/6/american_sports_parity_by_zerochanges-d5mwgav.jpg

[unleashbaynes]

Soccer is already more popular in America than hockey. More people watched the Copa than the Stanley Cup finals.

[lefty]

Also midnightpulp (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=5430)

:lol Billy Hamilton
:lol a career .245 hitter as the game's best "athlete" because he can run fast
:lol pinch running
:lol dressing in a costume to run 90 feet in 3 seconds of a 4 hour snore fest
:lol join the olympics
:lol more sac bunts than homers
:lol bunting
:lol sacrifice bunting
:lol an adult called "Billy"
:lol game's best "athlete" earns $500k/yr when the fat guys earns 48.5 times that
:lol American cricket


:lol 14 years ago and 60 pounds lighter
:lol cherry picking
:lol that morbidly obese fuck is a top-10 "athlete" in American cricket


:lol 80 year old coach dressing in the costume with a number on it
:lol "base coaches" also dressing in the costume and wearing helmets
:lol needing a "coach" to tell you to stop, run, or slide
:lol imagine if NBA coaches and assistants wore the same outfit as players
:lol imagine if NFL coaches and assistants wore pads
:lol imagine if NHL managers wore skates, sweaters, and helmets
:lol imagine if Football managers wore shin pads and jerseys
:lol these guys are "ready to play" in case any of the other 26 fat guys have a heart attack

https://sineilleifer.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/1167.jpg?w=960

:lmao

[lefty]

:cry there's a little rain, let's postpone this 10 hour game

[Clipper Nation]

Soccer is already more popular in America than hockey. More people watched the Copa than the Stanley Cup finals.
:lol Remove all the illegals from the ratings and there's no way poorball beat the Stanley Cup.

[midnightpulp]

Soccer is already more popular in America than hockey. More people watched the Copa than the Stanley Cup finals.

No.

Game 6 drew 5.4 million viewers.

The Copa Final drew 2.5 million viewers on English language TV, and 1.6 million on Univision.

And it was a game featuring arguably the biggest sports star on the planet.

And as I've said before, the US Men's team had a match where the barely beat women's softball in the ratings :lol.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

It boggles my mind that soccer fans can defend the penalty kick/penalty shootout dynamic.

When goals are at such a premium in soccer, it's highly fuckin' stupid to basically give a team a 90% chance of scoring just because a player was fouled in the box. In many of those cases, the player wasn't even in an advantageous scoring position.

And Jesus Christ, penalty shootouts. Imagine ending a basketball game after the 2nd overtime or something on a 3 point contest. Or ending a baseball game after the 12th inning on a home run derby. A penalty shootout barely resembles the core gameplay of soccer, but yet it's used to decide important matches. And it's used A LOT since soccer ends in a tie 50% of the fuckin' time.

"Well, if they didn't use shootouts, the game could on forever and players would die or something."

And that exactly illustrates the problem with soccer. That it can conceivable go on forever without a team scoring, so you're forced to end it with some arbitrary minigame.

Sorry. Soccer's gameplay design is absolutely horrid.

You should just take a shit on your keyboard and it would have came out better than this.

[Clipper Nation]

Bump!

:lmao Portugal tied all but one game in the Eurotrash tournament, yet that's all it takes to win a ring in povertyball! Just says it all about that shitstain of a "sport."

[midnightpulp]

Bump!

:lmao Portugal tied all but one game in the Eurotrash tournament, yet that's all it takes to win a ring in povertyball! Just says it all about that shitstain of a "sport."

I obviously didn't watch, but was following the score on my phone. Wasn't at all surprised it was 0-0 in the 100th minute :lol

[DAF86]

Bump!

:lmao Portugal tied all but one game in the Eurotrash tournament, yet that's all it takes to win a ring in povertyball! Just says it all about that shitstain of a "sport."

This was an exceptional case, tbh. The shittiest tournament of all-time.

[ElNono]

I'm glad I didn't watch any of the games, tbh... Euro soccer, at least at the NT team level, is a known snorefest, tbh...

[Caltex2]

If they got rid of offsides and allowed poaching, you may actually see some 7-6 games. Who the flip wants to see 0-0 games decided after OT by a novelty game?

[pookenstein]

The shittiest tournament of all-time.

True. Underwhelming tournament.

[Mal]

This was shitty tournament, Portugal playin unattractive football, winning only one game in regulation, proves that.

[Silver&Black]

Was there some type of controversy in the kickball tournament yesterday? I wouldn't know because I'd rather stick icepicks in my balls than watch that shit.

Just saw that France refused their silver medals. Wondering why, tbh.

[Clipper Nation]

This was an exceptional case, tbh. The shittiest tournament of all-time.
Still, it's even funnier now that the midget you like, who's supposed to be the GOAT of povertyball, can't win one of those tournaments when all you have to do is keep tying (not even winning) every game until the last one. Instead, he choked and quit like Karl Malone :lol

When that's the face of your "sport," it's a shit "sport." Say what you want about baseball. Mike Trout is stuck on a garbage team, but at least he hasn't thrown a tearful hissy-fit and retired over it.

:lol Midgetball
:lol Little People, Big Field

[DAF86]

Still, it's even funnier now that the midget you like, who's supposed to be the GOAT of povertyball, can't win one of those tournaments when all you have to do is keep tying (not even winning) every game until the last one. Instead, he choked and quit like Karl Malone :lol

When that's the face of your "sport," it's a shit "sport." Say what you want about baseball. Mike Trout is stuck on a garbage team, but at least he hasn't thrown a tearful hissy-fit and retired over it.

:lol Midgetball
:lol Little People, Big Field

Funny thing is that in the last 3 tournaments where Argentina lost in the final, in regulation they have a record of 12 wins, 7 ties and 0 losses. Then comes a team and rings winning just 1 game out of 7. That's one thing I give basseball over soccer, its knock-out stage is more fair than Soccer's knock-out stage. These kind of tournaments in soccer are unfair and unpredictable. It's a motherfucking bitch but it is also part of its appeal, tbh.

[Caltex2]

Was there some type of controversy in the kickball tournament yesterday? I wouldn't know because I'd rather stick icepicks in my balls than watch that shit.

Just saw that France refused their silver medals. Wondering why, tbh.

Poor sportsmanship and typical rude French behavior. Porker should be so proud.

[HarlemHeat37]

The beisbol vs. povertyball feud is the best on ST, tbh:lol

[Seventyniner]

The beisbol vs. povertyball feud is the best on ST, tbh:lol

Especially because of the false choice inherent in much of the discussion. Personally, I can't stand watching either sport.

[Stalin]

Dumbass, ever heard of this things called COMMERCIALS aka why people even watch the SB!:lol

North American leagues have "TV" timeouts.:lmao

This is how you advertise in Futbol: #cellphone

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--VMCzku21--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/18j5ahi9sjz4yjpg.jpg



:tu

[Caltex2]

The beisbol vs. povertyball feud is the best on ST, tbh:lol

Don't you mean American cricket?

[Clipper Nation]

Don't you mean American cricket?
No, we mean baseball, which has nothing to do with cricket other than being another bat-and-ball sport. It didn't even evolve out of cricket :lol

When povertyball fans start throwing around old played-out names like "handegg" and "American cricket," it just shows their ignorance of real sports played by actual men.

[Caltex2]

I was just using another nickname they used. Check this thread, I'm on your side.

[benefactor]

The beisbol vs. povertyball feud is the best on ST, tbh:lol
:tu