Jordan Clarkson re-signs with Lakers. 4/50 million.

[midnightpulp]

http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2016/7/1/12077474/nba-free-agency-rumors-jordan-clarkson-la-lakers-restricted

Mitch did something not retarded. Good value.

[Raven]

awful value :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[RsxPiimp]

Wtf, didn't he receive any offer somewhere else? He's basically getting paid for $5 mil a season with projected raise, must be a PO after his 2nd.

[midnightpulp]

awful value :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

When players like Bradley Beal are getting 22 mil per year, I think Clarkson at 12.5 mil per is a good value.

[Killakobe81]

When players like Bradley Beal are getting 22 mil per year, I think Clarkson at 12.5 mil per is a good value.

It is. He basically is middle class man's Derozen ... but younger.
DD got paid more than double that.
Raven just likes to hate.
Not sure why he wouldnt be laughing more at Mozgof.

Not sure why we couldnt have Timofey at 54 million ...maybe his agent pushed for the 64 since we have a team option on the 4th year ... so it's really 48 over 3 ...

[LkrFan]

It is. He basically is middle class man's Derozen ... but younger.
DD got paid more than double that.
Raven just likes to hate.
Not sure why he wouldnt be laughing more at Mozgof.

Not sure why we couldnt have Timofey at 54 million ...maybe his agent pushed for the 64 since we have a team option on the 4th year ... so it's really 48 over 3 ...

Yeah, the 4th year being a team option makes this deal a little less shitty. That being said, Mozgov won't get in the way of our main purpose these next few years: development of the kids. He won't command touches, he'll rebound, he'll block shots, he'll set picks. Frankly, $16M per isn't that bad given today's NBA salaries that are being doled out. And for better or for worse, big men usually get paid.

Mozgov doesn't have a lot of wear and tear either. He's 30, but I doubt he has a lot of mileage on him.

[Killakobe81]

Yeah, the 4th year being a team option makes this deal a little less shitty. That being said, Mozgov won't get in the way of our main purpose these next few years: development of the kids. He won't command touches, he'll rebound, he'll block shots, he'll set picks. Frankly, $16M per isn't that bad given today's NBA salaries that are being doled out. And for better or for worse, big men usually get paid.

Mozgov doesn't have a lot of wear and tear either. He's 30, but I doubt he has a lot of mileage on him.

Dont get me wrong I dont love it. I agree it's less shitty.
It's definitely NOT sexy ...
But it's not as bad as some say either

[StrengthAndHonor]

But it's not as bad as some say either
I thought it's awful. $16.5 on a player with bum knees and couldn't even get a playing time on a team that needed a center. Lakers will regret this hand out, mid season.

[LkrFan]

I thought it's awful. $16.5 on a player with bum knees and couldn't even get a playing time on a team that needed a center. Lakers will regret this hand out, mid season.

Not a bum knee. He had a cyst, no structure damage. He came back too soon from surgery:

“He had a cyst in his knee that they removed,” Windhorst added in detail to the summer surgery. “The removing of the cyst didn’t completely heal the issue and there’s the possibility that he may need another surgery.”

http://espn.go.com/blog/cleveland/post/_/id/1236/timofey-mozgov-had-unsuccessful-knee-surgery-last-summer-and-his-rehab-was-handled-improperly

[LkrFan]

Dont get me wrong I dont love it. I agree it's less shitty.
It's definitely NOT sexy ...
But it's not as bad as some say either

Agreed. :tu

[Raven]

When players like Bradley Beal are getting 22 mil per year, I think Clarkson at 12.5 mil per is a good value.

pretty sure you can get many guys from europe on under 2M contracts that can do the job just as well as clarkson can.

[LkrFan]

pretty sure you can get many guys from europe on under 2M contracts that can do the job just as well as clarkson can.

:lol

[StrengthAndHonor]

Not a bum knee. He had a cyst, no structure damage. He came back too soon:

“He had a cyst in his knee that they removed,” Windhorst added in detail to the summer surgery. “The removing of the cyst didn’t completely heal the issue and there’s the possibility that he may need another surgery.”

http://espn.go.com/blog/cleveland/post/_/id/1236/timofey-mozgov-had-unsuccessful-knee-surgery-last-summer-and-his-rehab-was-handled-improperly

I don't know man, this should be a last resort option for the Lakers. He's on the wrong side of 30 tbh.

[LkrFan]

I don't know man, this should be a last resort option for the Lakers. He's on the wrong side of 30 tbh.

Nah, not really. He hasn't played that much the last few years. Plus 30 isn't old for a big man. He's still in his prime.

[Killakobe81]

I don't know man, this should be a last resort option for the Lakers. He's on the wrong side of 30 tbh.

That is what is puzzling.
He was our 1st call.
I get we knew whiteside was staying.

[StrengthAndHonor]

That is what is puzzling.
He was our 1st call.
I get we knew whiteside
Were Biyombo and Ezeli options? At the very least, I was thinking Ezeli since he has ties with Luke. I guess they really want a big body that can do a lot dirty work. It's just a head scratcher since I thought Luke Walton was going for an uptempo theme.

[Killakobe81]

Were Biyombo and Ezeli options? At the very least, I was thinking Ezeli since he has ties with Luke. I guess they really want a big body that can do a lot dirty work. It's just a head scratcher since I thought Luke Walton was going for an uptempo theme.

I dont want either guy if it's approaching max tbh.
S&H you the coolest Clips fan I sorta know ... but really how much are those guys an upgrade over Mozgof (if he is healthy?) especially if they get max or near max.
Fezeli was shitty down the stretch in the WCF and finals ...Biyombo is even more limited offensively than Festus.

Ill be mad if either sign for close to Mozgof though ... but I doubt it.

[midnightpulp]

Were Biyombo and Ezeli options? At the very least, I was thinking Ezeli since he has ties with Luke. I guess they really want a big body that can do a lot dirty work. It's just a head scratcher since I thought Luke Walton was going for an uptempo theme.

Mozgov has good pick-and-roll stats, so Luke, Kupcake, and Jimbo probably convinced themselves he was the right fit since it's a "pick-and-roll league" now.

The fact they failed to consider is that Mozgov was playing with Lebron James.

[TheGreatYacht]

Jonathon Simmons > Clarkson, tbh

[TrainOfThought5]

Jonathon Simmons > Clarkson, tbh

Clarkson can play point though.

[TheGreatYacht]

Clarkson can play point though.
Just as good as Simmons? Agreed.

[StrengthAndHonor]

Mozgov has good pick-and-roll stats, so Luke, Kupcake, and Jimbo probably convinced themselves he was the right fit since it's a "pick-and-roll league" now.

The fact they failed to consider is that Mozgov was playing with Lebron James.
Best case scenario is D'Angelo develops as the point guard hey envision.

[StrengthAndHonor]

I dont want either guy if it's approaching max tbh.
S&H you the coolest Clips fan I sorta know ... but really how much are those guys an upgrade over Mozgof (if he is healthy?) especially if they get max or near max.
Fezeli was shitty down the stretch in the WCF and finals ...Biyombo is even more limited offensively than Festus.

Ill be mad if either sign for close to Mozgof though ... but I doubt it.

I see your point, I just think the combination of his age, health and contract, Mozgov will be difficult to use as a trade piece should the opportunity arise.

[Killakobe81]

I see your point, I just think the combination of his age, health and contract, Mozgov will be difficult to use as a trade piece should the opportunity arise.

You say that but here are two things that remain true ... even in the modern NBA.

Size still matters (look at the WCF and Finals)
Size ages better than speed quickness
Because there is always a team in need to clear cap space ...even deals like Mozgof's are very tradeable.
It's not a max, the team controls the 4th year.
So No it's not a good trade chip this year post ASB or even next one ... but in year 3 by the ASB it's a 16 million expiring cap chip that the Lakers have already paid 75% on and if helps a new team then you can choose to give him the 4th year.

[Killakobe81]

My biggest issue is we should have signed him for 10-12 million less.
If it was 54 Million ... it would be fair deal for both sides ...cuz we werent gonna get him for less than that ...
My question is would ANYONE else pay him 64 even if only 3 years are garunsheed?

[Splits]

No brainer.

His defense sucks donkey dicks but that can be taught if the team ever hires an actual coach.

[DPG21920]

I'm shocked at this number honestly, but smart for LA. They need talent, he's young and talented and a deal that was 8M less than the max he could receive? Very smart.

If (and it's a big if) Russell is a player & Clarkson can grow more, that is a good backcourt on reasonable deals for next few years.

[Raven]

You say that but here are two things that remain true ... even in the modern NBA.

Size still matters (look at the WCF and Finals)
Size ages better than speed quickness
Because there is always a team in need to clear cap space ...even deals like Mozgof's are very tradeable.
It's not a max, the team controls the 4th year.
So No it's not a good trade chip this year post ASB or even next one ... but in year 3 by the ASB it's a 16 million expiring cap chip that the Lakers have already paid 75% on and if helps a new team then you can choose to give him the 4th year.

that one has been false from the day the cba was approved. I keep telling you, but..

[Clipper Nation]

:lol $50 million for a fluke chucker

[Killakobe81]

that one has been false from the day the cba was approved. I keep telling you, but..

We will see.
What is the issue is that most teams want the expirings for themselves.
If the Lakers value a trade over the expiring I do believe it is tradeable.
The problem is most teams with the expiring contracts what the space for themselves.
Also right now a lot of teams have space that may not be the case in 3 years when the cap flattens out.

[spurraider21]

Good deal for LAL

[poeticism707]

It is. He basically is middle class man's Derozen ... but younger.
DD got paid more than double that.
Raven just likes to hate.
Not sure why he wouldnt be laughing more at Mozgof.

Not sure why we couldnt have Timofey at 54 million ...maybe his agent pushed for the 64 since we have a team option on the 4th year ... so it's really 48 over 3 ...

Agree.

Good re signing.

And a cheap deal,

all things considered.

[Tully365]

A lotta spin going on in this thread... Was any Laker fan sitting around yesterday thinking, "please God please, let the Lakers sign Mozgov and Clarkson on the first day of free agency!"

[Raven]

Good deal for LAL

considering they spent half of last year trying to prove that his max was about 5M per year...

[Raven]

Jonathon Simmons > Clarkson, tbh

a lot more potential too.

[Killakobe81]

A lotta spin going on in this thread... Was any Laker fan sitting around yesterday thinking, "please God please, let the Lakers sign Mozgov and Clarkson on the first day of free agency!"

hell no to Mozgof ... who saw that coming?
but yes wanted to keep Clakson, especially over signing DD or Batum to max deals ...

FO did not agree though ...

[Killakobe81]

a lot more potential too.

Sure he does.
Just like Kyle Anderon does ...right?

[Raven]

Sure he does.
Just like Kyle Anderon does ...right?
well, yes.

[whitemamba]

Good price tbh. Clarkson lookin jacked in the offseason.

[Jzone]

Good signing, I like Clarkson. The Mosgov deal was pure trash though.

[td4mvp2k]

a lot more potential too.

agree and a lot cheaper tbh

[DMC]

Simon Cowell is going to demand some royalties.

[SuperCam]

991474806976532480


how did this trash nig ever convince anyone he was good? :lol

[Clipper Nation]

991474806976532480


how did this trash nig ever convince anyone he was good? :lol
For the same reason why idiots are now convincing themselves that Lonzo Bust is good. His jersey said "Lakers" on the front.

[Thebesteva]

For the same reason why idiots are now convincing themselves that Lonzo Bust is good. His jersey said "Lakers" on the front.

How them clippers doing tho?

[LkrFan]

http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2016/7/1/12077474/nba-free-agency-rumors-jordan-clarkson-la-lakers-restricted

Mitch did something not retarded. Good value.

:lol

[LkrFan]

Good deal for LAL

:lol

[LkrFan]

How them clippers doing tho?

Paying the Logo millions while the Clipps watch the 2018 Dubs Invitational in HD :lol

[Raven]

awful value :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

:hat

[sickdsm]

Paying the Logo millions while the rest of the NBA watch the 2018 Dubs Invitational in HD :lol


FIFY

[Clipper Nation]

Paying the Logo millions while the Clipps watch the 2018 Dubs Invitational in HD :lol
:lol GM Magic

[LkrFan]

:lol GM Magic

:lol He's done more for the Lakers during his tenure than Logo has for the Clipps. I'll give him his props for 86'ing Fake Griffin. Let's see what he does next. Kiwi to the Clipps perhaps? :lol

[StrengthAndHonor]

West gave away Blake Griffin for freaking Tobias Harris. I just have to deal with that.


I’m jealous right now- the Lakers are down low making all the right choices, but more importantly they have such a bright future with most of their players under rookie scale contracts. Pelinka and Magic’s front office moves are going to be legendary if they can snag Paul and Kawhi in the offseason.

[LkrFan]

:lol GM Magic


West gave away Blake Griffin for freaking Tobias Harris. I just have to deal with that.


I’m jealous right now- the Lakers are down low making all the right choices, but more importantly they have such a bright future with most of their players under rookie scale contracts. Pelinka and Magic’s front office moves are going to be legendary if they can snag Paul and Kawhi in the offseason.

:wow

[Clipper Nation]

West gave away Blake Griffin for freaking Tobias Harris. I just have to deal with that.


I’m jealous right now- the Lakers are down low making all the right choices, but more importantly they have such a bright future with most of their players under rookie scale contracts. Pelinka and Magic’s front office moves are going to be legendary if they can snag Paul and Kawhi in the offseason.
GM Magic's resume:

- Wasting the #2 pick on Lonzo Bust
- Dumping Russell just to get rid of a bad contract
- Getting fined for tampering every five minutes

Wow, I'm impressed.

[StrengthAndHonor]

Toll post aside, Kawhi ending up with the Lakers would be the ultimate slap in the face for Spurs fans:lol

[ambchang]

West gave away Blake Griffin for freaking Tobias Harris. I just have to deal with that.


I’m jealous right now- the Lakers are down low making all the right choices, but more importantly they have such a bright future with most of their players under rookie scale contracts. Pelinka and Magic’s front office moves are going to be legendary if they can snag Paul and Kawhi in the offseason.
I love how leaker gms are getting praised for things they haven’t done yet.

Like saying dejointe Murray is the goat because it is perhaps maybe possible that he can average a triple double for 16 seasons ina row while winning 12 straight titles, leading the league in steals assists and points.

[DMC]

I love how leaker gms are getting praised for things they haven’t done yet.

Like saying dejointe Murray is the goat because it is perhaps maybe possible that he can average a triple double for 16 seasons ina row while winning 12 straight titles, leading the league in steals assists and points.

That's called proof by prognostication.

[Thebesteva]

Paying the Logo millions while the Clipps watch the 2018 Dubs Invitational in HD :lol


:lol LOB CITY BRO!!!

[StrengthAndHonor]

I love how leaker gms are getting praised for things they haven’t done yet.

Like saying dejointe Murray is the goat because it is perhaps maybe possible that he can average a triple double for 16 seasons ina row while winning 12 straight titles, leading the league in steals assists and points.
You have to be an imbecile to come out with that conclusion :lol





You can however be objective and give credit where it's due. They flipped negative operation costs when no one thought it's possible (Mozgov $46 million, Clarkson $37.5 million) for expiring contracts and 1st round picks-- evidence they're dead set in making sound business decisions.




July 2018 and 2019 will be a litmus test of success for Pelinka and Magic. PG signing with them is an indication they have steered the franchise to make progress to optimize their success.

[ambchang]

You have to be an imbecile to come out with that conclusion :lol





You can however be objective and give credit where it's due. They flipped negative operation costs when no one thought it's possible (Mozgov $46 million, Clarkson $37.5 million) for expiring contracts and 1st round picks-- evidence they're dead set in making sound business decisions.




July 2018 and 2019 will be a litmus test of success for Pelinka and Magic. PG signing with them is an indication they have steered the franchise to make progress to optimize their success.

Signing lebron george and trade junk for kawhi all in one offseason is a reasonable expectation? Gotcha.

[StrengthAndHonor]

Ya cant fix stupid^

[ambchang]

Ya cant fix stupid^

Yeah. Really smart to think getting all three is totally attainable. Smart man

[StrengthAndHonor]

Yeah. Really smart to think getting all three is totally attainable. Smart man
Except I didn’t say that.

[ambchang]

Except I didn’t say that.

So why are you jealous and proclaiming the front office to be great again? Oh yeah, because they won 34 games.

[SuperCam]

995760515736526848

this mega scrub getting so much publicity just because he was on the lakers :lol

watch out kuzma you next

[Killakobe81]

995760515736526848

this mega scrub getting so much publicity just because he was on the lakers :lol

watch out kuzma you next

kuzma is and will be waaaay better than Clarkson ...

[SuperCam]

kuzma is and will be waaaay better than Clarkson ...

agreed but he already 23 probably doesn't become anything more than decent starter but likely will never make an all star team. which is okay but his name should never be spoken outside of lakersground tbh

[Bynumite]

agreed but he already 23 probably doesn't become anything more than decent starter but likely will will make an all star team. which is okay but his name should never be spoken outside of lakersground tbh

With Kiwi out healing his sore pussy, Kuzma on the spurs would automatically be the 2nd best player on the team next to Lasoft:lol

[Clipper Nation]

Remember when Spurfan used to beg PATFO to trade for Clarkson because he's from San Antonio?

[spursistan]

Remember when Spurfan used to beg PATFO to trade for Clarkson because he's from San Antonio?
995787139345461248

:lmao..