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siraulo23
07-03-2016, 01:14 AM
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Sean Cagney
07-03-2016, 01:16 AM
Better develop a consistent jump shot...... That is all I am saying.

TheGoldStandard
07-03-2016, 01:21 AM
Needs to be evaluated for dementia. He probably also thinks it's still his team..

raybies
07-03-2016, 01:22 AM
:facepalm

raybies
07-03-2016, 01:23 AM
:depressed

james evans
07-03-2016, 01:23 AM
If the spurs sign him to another 4 year deal after the next 2 seasons, Leonard needs to demand a fucking trade because I don't know anyone in their right mind who would keep flushing money down the toilet in a player that offers nothing

Mikeanaro
07-03-2016, 01:25 AM
šIf I stay for a few more years I could be making 30 mil a yearš

raybies
07-03-2016, 01:25 AM
:nope:pctoss:vomit:

Robz4000
07-03-2016, 01:45 AM
Against International opponents maybe.

RD2191
07-03-2016, 01:46 AM
If the spurs sign him to another 4 year deal after the next 2 seasons, Leonard needs to demand a fucking trade because I don't know anyone in their right mind who would keep flushing money down the toilet in a player that offers nothing

spursparker9
07-03-2016, 02:04 AM
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DenialTwist
07-03-2016, 02:06 AM
Oh no. If Parker plays for another 2-3 years after his contract is up the spurs will be drowning in mediocrity. They will have wasted Kawhi and LMA's prime years. They need a third star and consistent third option instead they are catering to Parker. Keep holding on to those yesteryears.

apalisoc_9
07-03-2016, 02:10 AM
The op's username best describes Tony Parker's thought process, Imo.

HI-FI
07-03-2016, 02:17 AM
:pop: "As long as he can lace 'em up, pay him what he wants."

J_Paco
07-03-2016, 03:18 AM
Do idiots realize that Parker has been paid below market value throughout his entire career? He will likely want to stay in San Antonio beyond his current contract, but I'm sure it will be at a drastically reduced rate if at all.


But, no please continue to push your stupid, half-assed agenda that Parker and Popovich are colluding against Kawhi, the fanbase and organization at large. Too many stupid idiots in this fanbase, man......

Just like Robinson, Ginobili and Duncan if the greatest PG in franchise history wants to retire a Spur and play until his late 30's that's okay. He helped bring 4 NBA titles and unprecedented success to this franchise, so he is deserving of that level of respect. I'm almost certain he won't be manning the ship beyond the upcoming season.

TheMulletMan3000
07-03-2016, 03:34 AM
http://blogimages.thescore.com/tbj/files/2011/10/tony-parker-asvel-jersey.jpg

Here you can dribble dribble all day long for the next 5 years, Tony.

midnightpulp
07-03-2016, 03:38 AM
Got no choice but to root for him and hope that maybe he's rejuvenated. Our perimeter/backcourt scoring is such overall shit, we need to take what we can get, unless we pull off something big in FA.

ElNono
07-03-2016, 03:40 AM
if we're gonna go on a farewell tour, I hope Tim and Manu also stick around for that long, tbh

Obstructed_View
07-03-2016, 03:43 AM
Non-scientific 3:30 AM Math warning.

Winning percentage when Tony Parker has...

9 assists or more 86% (168-27)
35 points or more 82% (14-3)
FG% .750 or more 87% (33-5)
25 FGA or more 72% (13-5)

Dear Tony, focus on passing.

dabom
07-03-2016, 03:47 AM
Hope he can play a long time on another team...

eric365
07-03-2016, 04:10 AM
His contract is not that bad with the new cap. Any starter is getting 15+ mil per year

And if he want to play that long it would probably be at a way cheaper contract and off the bench. I'm fine with that for the spurs but I don't see the point.
If you re not great anymore you should stop

NickiRasgo
07-03-2016, 04:19 AM
If he plays off the bench for the Spurs and he'll give way to develop some incoming young PG (Murray), why not right?

Uriel
07-03-2016, 04:51 AM
Are any Filipino Spurs fans going to watch the PH vs France game on Tuesday? How do you get tickets?

r0drig0lac
07-03-2016, 05:35 AM
:depressed

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TheGreatYacht
07-03-2016, 05:45 AM
Manure fans saying no after the Spurs kept that corpse around 5 years too long :lol

SASdynasty!
07-03-2016, 05:46 AM
If the spurs sign him to another 4 year deal after the next 2 seasons, Leonard needs to demand a fucking trade because I don't know anyone in their right mind who would keep flushing money down the toilet in a player that offers nothing
Actually Kawhi should try to lead the Spurs in scoring once in a playoff series beyond the first round. Once he does that, maybe he can start demanding trades.

SASdynasty!
07-03-2016, 05:48 AM
Do idiots realize that Parker has been paid below market value throughout his entire career? He will likely want to stay in San Antonio beyond his current contract, but I'm sure it will be at a drastically reduced rate if at all.


But, no please continue to push your stupid, half-assed agenda that Parker and Popovich are colluding against Kawhi, the fanbase and organization at large. Too many stupid idiots in this fanbase, man......

Just like Robinson, Ginobili and Duncan if the greatest PG in franchise history wants to retire a Spur and play until his late 30's that's okay. He helped bring 4 NBA titles and unprecedented success to this franchise, so he is deserving of that level of respect. I'm almost certain he won't be manning the ship beyond the upcoming season.

TheGreatYacht
07-03-2016, 05:49 AM
When his contract is up he'll probably get a 2yr/14M extension like Manure did, which is a bargain in today's cap.

TheGreatYacht
07-03-2016, 05:50 AM
Actually Kawhi should try to lead the Spurs in scoring once in a playoff series beyond the first round. Once he does that, maybe he can start demanding trades.
God damn :wow

SPURt
07-03-2016, 06:02 AM
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Texas_Ranger
07-03-2016, 06:08 AM
:vomit:

Spurtacular
07-03-2016, 06:27 AM
I don't mind Parker having stuffed deep on the bench playing for the vet min.

FkLA
07-03-2016, 06:47 AM
Needs to be evaluated for dementia. He probably also thinks it's still his team..

See my sig.

BillMc
07-03-2016, 06:48 AM
If true, Tony will probably outlast Pop. Whoever is Pop's replacement may have to make "the hard call" on Tony's career. Still, if he continues to grow his jumper, he can be a serviceable NBA player for a few years. I'm rooting for him.

dbestpro
07-03-2016, 08:43 AM
The future TP will be asked to provide bursts of offense from the bench. When this happens Mills will most likely be gone, Manu and Tim will be retired, and someone not even on our radar will be the starting PG.

Brian Windhorst
07-03-2016, 08:48 AM
Makes my blood boil every time I hear this shit. Just take your money and shut the fuck up about it. He had like a dozen good games last year.

Kikoluna
07-03-2016, 08:52 AM
Oh God no. I mean , as the backup maaaaybeeee, and even that is put of loyalty

UZER
07-03-2016, 08:56 AM
Aaaaaaand after reading that tweet, Durant has chosen to stay with OKC.

Duncan2177
07-03-2016, 09:57 AM
http://hoopeduponline.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/tony-parker-french-burger.jpeg

Beaverfuzz
07-03-2016, 09:58 AM
Lose the spare tire Tony. You're not an elite NBA PG anymore. Know your role and shut your mouth.

DPG21920
07-03-2016, 10:01 AM
He didn't say he could be a starter for 4-5 more years. He might turn into a solid bench pg which is great.

urunobili
07-03-2016, 10:03 AM
:lol
#delusional

loveforthegame
07-03-2016, 10:03 AM
At a cheaper rate, bench role? Sounds reasonable.

RD2191
07-03-2016, 10:08 AM
Fat fuck needs to ride pine this season. Maybe trade his ass. Fucker is the next bonner.

houston spurs fan
07-03-2016, 10:09 AM
Do idiots realize that Parker has been paid below market value throughout his entire career? He will likely want to stay in San Antonio beyond his current contract, but I'm sure it will be at a drastically reduced rate if at all.


But, no please continue to push your stupid, half-assed agenda that Parker and Popovich are colluding against Kawhi, the fanbase and organization at large. Too many stupid idiots in this fanbase, man......

Just like Robinson, Ginobili and Duncan if the greatest PG in franchise history wants to retire a Spur and play until his late 30's that's okay. He helped bring 4 NBA titles and unprecedented success to this franchise, so he is deserving of that level of respect. I'm almost certain he won't be manning the ship beyond the upcoming season.
This. I think there are a lot of international and bandwagon fans who have no clue what TP did in the 2000's. Dude was a Finals MVP. People get old, players age, and the amount of disrespect is astounding.

pgardn
07-03-2016, 10:31 AM
Off the bench and that's fine.

tmtcsc
07-03-2016, 10:50 AM
He's delusional. Have fun in the Olympics Tony.

TheGreatYacht
07-03-2016, 10:52 AM
He's delusional. Have fun in the Olympics Tony.
^ Same guy that's glad Manure is back after one of the worst playoff performances of all time :lol

Manutards are insufferable.

cd98
07-03-2016, 10:52 AM
People here are overly critical of Parker. Regardless of his slippage he's still a starting NBA point guard, he's just not a superstar. He's still a high level ball handler and decent shooter and finisher. He was an elite finisher a few years back, but now he's merely good. But people here forget that players give aging superstars high credit. Sure Manu and Duncan are shells of what they used to be, but players still respect them and consider them big assets to a team.

cd98
07-03-2016, 10:55 AM
People thinking Durant won't come to the Spurs if Parker is there are delusional. Do they think he wants to play on a team with Patty Mills as the starting point guard? Patty is worthless if he isn't making shots. It's Tony that the Spurs look to when their offense gets stagnate. He's better at handling the ball and getting it to the real scorers.

FkLA
07-03-2016, 10:56 AM
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apalisoc_9
07-03-2016, 10:59 AM
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Damn it..We lost because this nigga tried to win game 5 and 2 by himself. Hero balled again

TheGreatYacht
07-03-2016, 11:02 AM
Damn it..We lost because this nigga tried to win game 5 and 2 by himself. Hero balled again
We lost Game 2 because one of our max players showed up, and that was Lamarcus

tmtcsc
07-03-2016, 11:07 AM
^ Same guy that's glad Manure is back after one of the worst playoff performances of all time :lol

Manutards are insufferable.

Lol, Manutard? GMAFB. You are one bitter mother-fucker. Manu realizes his limitations and made the right adjustments to his game. He also understands his bench role. TP still thinks he is a quality starting PG and can rely on his speed to get to the basket for layups. Instead of debating whether he can be a relevant player for the duration of his contract, he's making bold statements of playing beyond it.

You've been a Manu hater ever since the 1st Finals loss to the Heat. I was critical of him then too (and rightfully so) but he made amends for it and played well the following year.

tmtcsc
07-03-2016, 11:12 AM
People here are overly critical of Parker. Regardless of his slippage he's still an adequate NBA point guard, he's just not a superstar. He's still a decent ball handler and below average shooter and finisher. He was an elite finisher a few years back, but now he's merely tolerable. But people here forget that players give aging superstars high credit. Sure Manu and Duncan are shells of what they used to be, but players still respect them and consider them big assets to a team.

Fixed.

TheGreatYacht
07-03-2016, 11:13 AM
Lol, Manutard? GMAFB. You are one bitter mother-fucker. Manu realizes his limitations and made the right adjustments to his game. He also understands his bench role. TP still thinks he is a quality starting PG and can rely on his speed to get to the basket for layups. Instead of debating whether he can be a relevant player for the duration of his contract, he's making bold statements of playing beyond it.

You've been a Manu hater ever since the 1st Finals loss to the Heat. I was critical of him then too (and rightfully so) but he made amends for it and played well the following year.
Manu doesn't realize his limitations, that's the thing :lol It's well known he's the only player on the team without a Pop leash. He's coming off two TERRIBLE playoff runs and he'll continue to be the first guy off the bench, same bench that cost us the Thunder series. He's ball dominant and his playmaking was nowhere to be seen last year so that means all he has are those inefficient step back jumpers.

TP thinks he's a starting caliber PG? Can I see a quote please? I can guarantee you he doesn't start himself, that's for sure.

Im not a Manu hater, I'm a realist in a board full of Manutards. Compare the reactions in the two threads saying they wanna keep playing.

SpursforSix
07-03-2016, 11:13 AM
Shit. I thought for sure this was going to be about a conversation that OP had with Tony at an HEB. Those words alone ought to be enough to run off any potential free agent.

Clipper Nation
07-03-2016, 11:20 AM
My condolences, Spurfan. Porker has taken the next few years out of the case in advance.

Clipper Nation
07-03-2016, 11:23 AM
People thinking Durant won't come to the Spurs if Parker is there are delusional. Do they think he wants to play on a team with Patty Mills as the starting point guard? Patty is worthless if he isn't making shots. It's Tony that the Spurs look to when their offense gets stagnate. He's better at handling the ball and getting it to the real scorers.
Pretty sure Durbeta wants to get touches, not be frozen out for the rest of his career by a selfish, delusional, fat heroballing faggot from France who thinks he's the real franchise player.

ElNono
07-03-2016, 11:40 AM
He can still be good value in a reduced role, as a mentor and with a steep paycut in his next deal... kinda like what Tim and Manu did...

Sucks we missed on Mozgov, tbh, at this point we need somebody strong enough to carry him past November...

cd98
07-03-2016, 11:49 AM
Just bc he says he wants to play until he's 40 doesn't mean a) that he thinks Spurs will pay him like an all star at 37; b) that he won't change his mind at say 37; c) that the Spurs will keep him on the team until 40; d) that he will expect to play 30 minutes a game deep into his late 30s.

I've never fully understood the hate for a guy that is the best Spur point guard in history by a landslide. Or how you have to choose between Manu, Kawhi, or Parker. At this point in their careers, Parker is more important bc he's a starting point guard in this league and Manu is close to retirement, but they both can still have important roles in the Spurs being title contenders.

TheGreatYacht
07-03-2016, 11:50 AM
Just bc he says he wants to play until he's 40 doesn't mean a) that he thinks Spurs will pay him like an all star at 37; b) that he won't change his mind at say 37; c) that the Spurs will keep him on the team until 40; d) that he will expect to play 30 minutes a game deep into his late 30s.

I've never fully understood the hate for a guy that is the best Spur point guard in history by a landslide. Or how you have to choose between Manu, Kawhi, or Parker. At this point in their careers, Parker is more important bc he's a starting point guard in this league and Manu is close to retirement.
Great post :tu

InRareForm
07-03-2016, 11:53 AM
I would play until I'm 50 with these new contracts

Mugen
07-03-2016, 11:54 AM
Horrible news.

MultiTroll
07-03-2016, 11:58 AM
:lol Pop n Parker 2020.

TheGoldStandard
07-03-2016, 12:01 PM
4/60 mil contract ext coming next summer.

SPURt
07-03-2016, 12:09 PM
The reason I think we're all swallowing a little throw up is because there isn't a clear replacement for Tony yet.

Don't worry, Ryan Arcidiacono is about to pull a John Stockton.

gambit1990
07-03-2016, 12:18 PM
i'm glad the trade deadline isn't anytime soon.

Seventyniner
07-03-2016, 12:19 PM
Just bc he says he wants to play until he's 40 doesn't mean a) that he thinks Spurs will pay him like an all star at 37; b) that he won't change his mind at say 37; c) that the Spurs will keep him on the team until 40; d) that he will expect to play 30 minutes a game deep into his late 30s.

I've never fully understood the hate for a guy that is the best Spur point guard in history by a landslide. Or how you have to choose between Manu, Kawhi, or Parker. At this point in their careers, Parker is more important bc he's a starting point guard in this league and Manu is close to retirement, but they both can still have important roles in the Spurs being title contenders.

The hate comes from people that have to have someone to point the finger at when things don't go their way.

TheGoldStandard
07-03-2016, 12:20 PM
The reason I think we're all swallowing a little throw up is because there isn't a clear replacement for Tony yet.

Don't worry, Ryan Arcidiacono is about to pull a John Stockton.

There's a brand new snack machine at the Spurs facility that's as reliable as Tony

SPURt
07-03-2016, 12:29 PM
There's a brand new snack machine at the Spurs facility that's as reliable as Tony
I didn't see it on the SL roster or are they waiting to see what happens with KD?

TheGoldStandard
07-03-2016, 12:34 PM
I didn't see it on the SL roster or are they waiting to see what happens with KD?

Some people have complained about the price of snickers in the machine and the fact that it eats change sometimes.. but it should be ready for the regular season

024
07-03-2016, 01:12 PM
Parker definitely seeing $$$ this year and knows even as a back up, he can command a lot of money. A 2 year $24 million deal would not be out of the realm of possibility for Parker under the new cap when his contract is up for renewal. Hopefully by then, he'll be a pure back up.

I say this every year but Parker needs to turn into Kidd 2.0, which means getting a reliable 3 point jumper. He doesn't have the speed to drive anymore so his best option is being a threat at the 3 point line to space the floor and playing defense. He's been shooting 3's at a good % but needs to up the volume and at different parts of the floor.

TrainOfThought5
07-03-2016, 01:18 PM
Do idiots realize that Parker has been paid below market value throughout his entire career? He will likely want to stay in San Antonio beyond his current contract, but I'm sure it will be at a drastically reduced rate if at all.


But, no please continue to push your stupid, half-assed agenda that Parker and Popovich are colluding against Kawhi, the fanbase and organization at large. Too many stupid idiots in this fanbase, man......

Just like Robinson, Ginobili and Duncan if the greatest PG in franchise history wants to retire a Spur and play until his late 30's that's okay. He helped bring 4 NBA titles and unprecedented success to this franchise, so he is deserving of that level of respect. I'm almost certain he won't be manning the ship beyond the upcoming season.

Compared to his production, Parker has sacrificed the least of the big 3. So fucking shove that piece of bullshit back in the asshole it came from.

Unrelated, i have no problem with Parker coming off the bench, competing for a backup spot, on a near min contract.

Perry Mason
07-03-2016, 01:34 PM
Although the OP was just trying to troll and we got the usual nut hugging from applesauce and datard, there's an important point here to be made. I expect Tony would be fine coming off the bench.

As a backup playing 15-20 minutes, Tony could do some nice damage against bench units. It would make him more effective in the playoffs, where he adds value with his experience and cool-headedness.

Also, for those of us who actually know something of the team dynamic, Tony is one of the more vocal leaders and has been for years. He is a little like D. Fish in that regard. The young players look up to him, moreso than Manu. His presence as a veteran off the bench would be very beneficial to young starters.

MultiTroll
07-03-2016, 01:36 PM
Compared to his production, Parker has sacrificed the least of the big 3. So fucking shove that piece of bullshit back in the asshole it came from.

Unrelated, i have no problem with Parker coming off the bench, competing for a backup spot, on a near min contract.

poeticism707
07-03-2016, 02:56 PM
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Translated from French:

"I feel like I can sit on my fat ass and collect food stamps from

the NBA for a long time."

J_Paco
07-03-2016, 03:00 PM
Lol, Manutard? GMAFB. You are one bitter mother-fucker. Manu realizes his limitations and made the right adjustments to his game. He also understands his bench role. TP still thinks he is a quality starting PG and can rely on his speed to get to the basket for layups. Instead of debating whether he can be a relevant player for the duration of his contract, he's making bold statements of playing beyond it.

You've been a Manu hater ever since the 1st Finals loss to the Heat. I was critical of him then too (and rightfully so) but he made amends for it and played well the following year.

Blah, blah, blah.

What do you expect a professional athlete on a consistently good/great team to say? And at only 34 years old when he hasn't suffered any career crippling injuries?

"No, I am on a steady decline and plan to sign in Europe after the current contract expires. All the ungrateful, crybaby, bitches on Spurstalk have shown me the light and I suck. "

"I don't want do like Manu and Timmy, who were both past their prime after 2011 while I carried the offense until Kawhi showed up, and age gracefully while playing a reduced role. No, I've always been the black sheep of the "Big Three" so I just go back home to France and finish there to make all the whiners happy."

Is that more like it?

He can still produce (far less consistently) and is making strides to alter his style, but finding a suitable replacement won't be easy or cheap. Him having the supreme confidence needed to still start - even with diminished ability - will be necessary while the team makes the transition.

TheGreatYacht
07-03-2016, 03:02 PM
Blah, blah, blah.

What do you expect a professional athlete on a consistently good/great team to say? And at only 34 years old when he hasn't suffered any career crippling injuries?

"No, I am on a steady decline and plan to sign in Europe after the current contract expires. All the ungrateful, crybaby, bitches on Spurstalk have shown me the light and I suck. "

"I don't want do like Manu and Timmy, who were both past their prime after 2011 while I carried the offense until Kawhi showed up, and age gracefully while playing a reduced role. No, I've always been the black sheep of the "Big Three" so I just go back home to France and finish there to make all the whiners happy."

Is that more like?

He can still produce (far less consistently) and is making strides to alter his style, but finding a suitable replacement won't be easy or cheap. Him having the supreme confidence needed to still start - even with diminished ability - will be necessary while the team makes the transition.
Don't waste your time with that Manutard, bro.

He just suggested on another thread that he'd give Manu a 2yr/16M extension :lmao

Mugen
07-03-2016, 03:03 PM
Well maybe if he decided to cut his salary in half and accept a bench role...I still wouldn't want him on the team that long tbh.

J_Paco
07-03-2016, 03:07 PM
Compared to his production, Parker has sacrificed the least of the big 3. So fucking shove that piece of bullshit back in the asshole it came from.

Unrelated, i have no problem with Parker coming off the bench, competing for a backup spot, on a near min contract.

What stupid shit are you spouting?

Parker has never made anywhere near his max slot, while far less successful PG's (recent examples like Eric Bledsoe, Brandon Knight, Reggie Jackson) have all been paid around his past and current salary. His current extension was in poor choice, but how did the front office know he'd have a sharp decline after having two of his best seasons back - to - back.

tmtcsc
07-03-2016, 03:22 PM
Blah, blah, blah.
What do you expect a professional athlete on a consistently good/great team to say? And at only 34 years old when he hasn't suffered any career crippling injuries?


"I've been fortunate to play this long and I'll take it one year at a time." The other stuff is filled with delusions of grandeur. He is an average starting quality PG now.

And Yacht, fuck your "Manutard" bullshit. I don't fall in to any "Player over Team" camp like you do. You hate on Manu and Kawhi even though both of them have proven to be better than your French soul mate.

Manu adjusted his role and based upon the ridiculous amounts of money being thrown around, I imagine 8 Mill per is what the Spurs will pay him. Maybe I'm wrong and both sides will agree to less. I'd prefer that happen so they have enough money to spend elsewhere to better the team.

Hell, I don't think Pau is worth 18 Mill a season either. i was hoping he would come here for 10 but the market is saying that's not realistic anymore. Apparently I wasn't the only one who thought he would be a great FA acquisition.

random21
07-03-2016, 03:27 PM
He can, but as a backup pg...

ElNono
07-03-2016, 03:28 PM
Now it makes sense that Murray is delaying signing his contract, tbh...

SnakeBoy
07-03-2016, 04:23 PM
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/carmelo/tony-parker/

james evans
07-03-2016, 05:48 PM
Just bc he says he wants to play until he's 40 doesn't mean a) that he thinks Spurs will pay him like an all star at 37; b) that he won't change his mind at say 37; c) that the Spurs will keep him on the team until 40; d) that he will expect to play 30 minutes a game deep into his late 30s.

I've never fully understood the hate for a guy that is the best Spur point guard in history by a landslide. Or how you have to choose between Manu, Kawhi, or Parker. At this point in their careers, Parker is more important bc he's a starting point guard in this league and Manu is close to retirement, but they both can still have important roles in the Spurs being title contenders.
let's see

gets raped by kidd in the 2003 finals after a good first 3 games and does damn near nothing in the last 3

gets raped by billups in the 2005 finals

plays against the worst backcourt in the history of the nba finals agaisnt the worst team to ever make the finals in 2007 and people that don't watch the spurs(and the parker fans of the spurs) claim he's some great player from destroying scrubs.

offensively had a great first round in 2009, but couldn't stay in front of Barea off the dribble if his life depended on it, but that series isnt' his fault. They outplayed us as a whole.

2013 finals games 6 and 7(no explanation needed). Danny green is having the best performance of his life, then Parker sabatages that to get more shots and that Miami stopped double teaming him. He gets 23 shots and hits 6 of them. then goes 3-12 in game 7.

2014 wcf when westbrooke was killing him. Popovich had to basically sit him down to get a win in game 6.

2015 nba finals. Had a good finals. After game 2 popovich says, "u know, let's make Lebron work on defense. Let's use this young SF we got". From games 3-5 it was leonard's show. Game 5, we're up 20 and parker is 1-11. Can't hit shit. So then he goes in hero mode trying to win the mvp award with the title won already:lol

2015 first round with green playing like shit and Leonard having a good series thru 3 games, Parker wants to show he has a lot left. Game 7 was fucking disgusting. At points in the game, he wouldn't even pass to Green or Leonard.

this year in the playoffs.. well, nevermind..



And you wonder why this mf gets the hate he receives? I had enough of this guy before we even traded for leonard. I wasn't on the site then. I was posting on other forums. It's documented. He's a product of Tim and Manu. Had he been drafted anywhere else, he probably would have been tony delk.

skulls138
07-03-2016, 05:57 PM
Calm down with the "rape" usage. And stop rewriting history. Parker is HOF material

james evans
07-03-2016, 06:11 PM
Calm down with the "rape" usage. And stop rewriting history. Parker is HOF material
of course he's going to the hall of fame. 4 titles, 1 finals mvp, has a pretty good fiba record. Only a fool would argue he's not. And I'll say whatever words I feel like rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape

YGWHI
07-03-2016, 09:18 PM
Him having the supreme confidence needed to still start - even with diminished ability - will be necessary while the team makes the transition.

Sadly, "him having the supreme confidence..." lost games for the Spurs in playoffs, like Parker taking crucial shots in game 5 agaisnt OKC.

He's not the main guy anymore but doesn't realize it. He can say he accepts a role, but there is no doubt that he still wants to take the last shot in a game.

So the Spurs'll have a player not named KD or Curry taking the ball away from Kawhi/LMA in the last minutes of a game for the next 6 years...

This isn't about loyalty, gratitude. We loved him, he was the best PG in the Spurs history, but only an insane person could think he should continue playing in 2018.

PublicOption
07-03-2016, 09:30 PM
at a low level.

james evans
07-03-2016, 09:43 PM
Sadly, "him having the supreme confidence..." lost games for the Spurs in playoffs, like Parker taking crucial shots in game 5 agaisnt OKC.

He's not the main guy anymore but doesn't realize it. He can say he accepts a role, but there is no doubt that he still wants to take the last shot in a game.

So the Spurs'll have a player not named KD or Curry taking the ball away from Kawhi/LMA in the last minutes of a game for the next 6 years...

This isn't about loyalty, gratitude. We loved him, he was the best PG in the Spurs history, but only an insane person could think he should continue playing in 2018.
especially when the pg position is the DEEPEST in the league. The pg position is what the center position was in 80s and 90s. Teams can no longer get away with bullshit ass pgs in 2016 and beyond. Especially pgs that can't defend. They're gonna get eaten alive. If you can't defend, at least offer something on offense whether it's consistence offense or consistently setting up teammates.

YGWHI
07-03-2016, 09:43 PM
Actually Kawhi should try to lead the Spurs in scoring once in a playoff series beyond the first round. Once he does that, maybe he can start demanding trades.

Kawhi averaged +20 ppg for two consecutive playoffs and led the league in Def Rtg among perimeter players...No PG, SG or SF in NBA history has posted a defensive rating lower than Kawhi's

Once Parker does it, proving he's a valuable point guard on both ends, maybe he can make statements like "I want to be a Spur for 6 years more"

gilmor
07-03-2016, 09:46 PM
Now it makes sense that Murray is delaying signing his contract, tbh...

Actually the real reason behind the delay for Murray is the Durant's signing.

If Durant signs with the Spurs, then Spurs will subsequently signs Murray.

ElNono
07-03-2016, 09:51 PM
Actually the real reason behind the delay for Murray is the Durant's signing.

If Durant signs with the Spurs, then Spurs will subsequently signs Murray.

sure

SupremeGuy
07-03-2016, 10:05 PM
The anti-Kawhi/parker only fans are just getting sad these days. :lol

TheGreatYacht
07-03-2016, 10:11 PM
The anti-Kawhi/parker only fans are just getting sad these days. :lol
Not as sad as wearing a hoodie indoors to cover up a pot belly and titties :lol

K...
07-03-2016, 10:15 PM
especially when the pg position is the DEEPEST in the league. The pg position is what the center position was in 80s and 90s. Teams can no longer get away with bullshit ass pgs in 2016 and beyond. Especially pgs that can't defend. They're gonna get eaten alive. If you can't defend, at least offer something on offense whether it's consistence offense or consistently setting up teammates.

You know, it's really not that deep. Curry, Westbrook, Lillard. Cp3 is old. I would say that the western playoff teams have really good pg, but the league as a whole doesn't have an especially talented field of pg.

SASdynasty!
07-03-2016, 11:15 PM
My condolences, Spurfan. Porker has taken the next few years out of the case in advance.
Interesting take, especially considering we haven't won a championship in a decade when Parker wasn't our leading scorer in the Finals.

SASdynasty!
07-03-2016, 11:21 PM
Sadly, "him having the supreme confidence..." lost games for the Spurs in playoffs, like Parker taking crucial shots in game 5 agaisnt OKC.

He's not the main guy anymore but doesn't realize it. He can say he accepts a role, but there is no doubt that he still wants to take the last shot in a game.

So the Spurs'll have a player not named KD or Curry taking the ball away from Kawhi/LMA in the last minutes of a game for the next 6 years...

This isn't about loyalty, gratitude. We loved him, he was the best PG in the Spurs history, but only an insane person could think he should continue playing in 2018.
If he keeps shooting better than 48% (like he has for the last 12 seasons) and if his shot and 3 pointer keep improving (43% and 42% from 3 the last 2 seasons), I'll take it, especially considering he still can get his own shot better than anyone on the team and also draw in the defense better than anyone.

SASdynasty!
07-03-2016, 11:24 PM
By the way, if Parker plays another 4 years, he probably ensures that no one will ever catch his all-time playoff scoring record for PGs.

YGWHI
07-03-2016, 11:33 PM
If he keeps shooting better than 48% (like he has for the last 12 seasons) and if his shot and 3 pointer keep improving (43% and 42% from 3 the last 2 seasons), I'll take it, especially considering he still can get his own shot better than anyone on the team and also draw in the defense better than anyone.

Of course, you will take it. You'll take Parker having the ball in his hands over Kawhi, the most efficient scorer from every spot on the floor, over 80 percentile in every category, +51 FG% +45 3P% +88 FTs, and LMA, the best offensive bigman in the league.

The sad part is Parker thinks the same thing that he's still the guy and takes shots he shouldn't.

That's why he shouldn't continue playing 6 years more for the Spurs, they wouldn't stay competitive against West elite backcourts with him on the team.

james evans
07-03-2016, 11:34 PM
You know, it's really not that deep. Curry, Westbrook, Lillard. Cp3 is old. I would say that the western playoff teams have really good pg, but the league as a whole doesn't have an especially talented field of pg.
john wall
isiah thomas
kyrie irving
curry
westbrooke
cp3
lowry
conley
lillard
kemba walker
derrick rose(still serviceable and can turn it on some games)
dragic
bledsoe



As a pg in the league, you have to see these type of guys on a nightly basis and you' say, the league as a whole doesn't have a talented field of pgs? :lol Do you know anything about the league at the moment? I didn't even mention Reggie Jackson who has made parker his personal bitch on several occasions.

james evans
07-03-2016, 11:36 PM
If he keeps shooting better than 48% (like he has for the last 12 seasons) and if his shot and 3 pointer keep improving (43% and 42% from 3 the last 2 seasons), I'll take it, especially considering he still can get his own shot better than anyone on the team and also draw in the defense better than anyone.
but what about him DEFENDING!! You are aware that in basketball, the offensive players aren't taken out for a defensive unit once they either score or lose possession of the ball right?

YGWHI
07-03-2016, 11:51 PM
but what about him DEFENDING!! You are aware that in basketball, the offensive players aren't taken out for a defensive unit once they either score or lose possession of the ball right?
To be fair, it's not only on defense where we can see Parker fails...

SASdynasty tries to argue that Parker is the best guy creating his own shot and drawing the defense..when his best days are over. It's sad that Parker and his fans can't recognize it and adapt to the aging process.

Also, I feel bad for the Spurs, Pop's loyalty to Parker will kill them next seasons.

YGWHI
07-03-2016, 11:59 PM
The Spurs won't sign an elite PG or develop a young prospect...

While Parker is on the team...

For 6 years more...

Until 2022 season...

:depressed

SASdynasty!
07-04-2016, 12:02 AM
To be fair, it's not only on defense where we can see Parker fails...

SASdynasty tries to argue that Parker is the best guy creating his owen shot and drawing in the defense..when his best days doing it are over

It's sad that Parker and his fans can't recognize and adapt to the aging process.

Also, I feel sad for the Spurs, Pop's loyalty to Parker will kill them next seasons.
Of course his best days are over, he's 15 years in and finished his second prime in 2014. He is still slightly better at getting free and getting his own shot than Kawhi (just because he's still a little quicker than him and more crafty). Kawhi can pull up and shoot over people better obviously. What I'm saying is we've seen what the Spurs are capable of with current Kawhi carrying the load, first and second round exits. I'm not saying we won't ever be able to make a deep playoff run with Kawhi carrying the load, he's just not there yet. Give him time.

YGWHI
07-04-2016, 12:16 AM
Of course his best days are over, he's 15 years in and finished his second prime in 2014. He is still slightly better at getting free and getting his own shot than Kawhi (just because he's still a little quicker than him and more crafty). Kawhi can pull up and shoot over people better obviously. What I'm saying is we've seen what the Spurs are capable of with current Kawhi carrying the load, first and second round exits. I'm not saying we won't ever be able to make a deep playoff run with Kawhi carrying the load, he's just not there yet. Give him time.

It's funny because

-Kawhi numbers on drives in 2016 playoffs>>>>Parker

-Kawhi drawing fouls since 2013-14 playoffs >>>> Parker

-When Parker carried the load in 2013, the Spurs had Tim, Manu, Danny, Kawhi playing at good level, when Kawhi did it in 2015 playoffs...he only had Duncan.

But this isn't about Parker vs Kawhi, I've said before that I respected and loved Parker as a player. It's about the Spurs.

If they can't sign KD, they need youth and athleticism, not another 40 y old guy on the court.

Kawhi could play for the Knicks or retire/whatever and I'd be saying the same thing...I don't want Parker playing for the Spurs in 2019

lefty
07-04-2016, 12:16 AM
I hope Durant didn't read that interview

skulls138
07-04-2016, 01:37 AM
To be fair, it's not only on defense where we can see Parker fails...

SASdynasty tries to argue that Parker is the best guy creating his own shot and drawing the defense..when his best days are over. It's sad that Parker and his fans can't recognize it and adapt to the aging process.

Also, I feel bad for the Spurs, Pop's loyalty to Parker will kill them next seasons.Yeah Pop is loyal but at the same time what are his options? The new guy? Why rush a rookie when we could ease him into the system.

If you would replace Parker he would have to be way better and a big part of our near and far future plans. You dont get a band aid to replace Parker.

Mouth is Bleeding
07-04-2016, 01:53 AM
If he keeps shooting better than 48% (like he has for the last 12 seasons) and if his shot and 3 pointer keep improving (43% and 42% from 3 the last 2 seasons), I'll take it, especially considering he still can get his own shot better than anyone on the team and also draw in the defense better than anyone.

Him starting to shoot a lot more threes would definitely help a lot and could even save his value.

Late career Jason Kidd the inspiration.

YGWHI
07-04-2016, 01:55 AM
If you would replace Parker he would have to be way better and a big part of our near and far future plans.
Do you think the Spurs are looking for an upgrade at his position when Parker says he wants to stay?

It doesn't make sense to find/sign that new, younger, better guy since the Spurs won't trade Parker because he says he wants to retire as Spur, and we know that Pop isn't ready to bench him the whole season, their loyalty to him doesn't allow them to make any move.

But if Parker won't be here in 2018, obviously the Spurs could sign a better point guard...Sadly, Parker thinks otherwise.

Mouth is Bleeding
07-04-2016, 01:56 AM
Point guard market may look pretty good next year.

ElNono
07-04-2016, 03:17 AM
I hope Durant didn't read that interview

:lol

TrainOfThought5
07-04-2016, 03:38 AM
"I've been fortunate to play this long and I'll take it one year at a time." The other stuff is filled with delusions of grandeur. He is an average starting quality PG now.

And Yacht, fuck your "Manutard" bullshit. I don't fall in to any "Player over Team" camp like you do. You hate on Manu and Kawhi even though both of them have proven to be better than your French soul mate.

Manu adjusted his role and based upon the ridiculous amounts of money being thrown around, I imagine 8 Mill per is what the Spurs will pay him. Maybe I'm wrong and both sides will agree to less. I'd prefer that happen so they have enough money to spend elsewhere to better the team.

Hell, I don't think Pau is worth 18 Mill a season either. i was hoping he would come here for 10 but the market is saying that's not realistic anymore. Apparently I wasn't the only one who thought he would be a great FA acquisition.

Hot take: Tony Parker is not an average starting quality point guard

SupremeGuy
07-04-2016, 04:52 AM
I hope Durant didn't read that interview:rollin