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LakerHater
07-05-2016, 01:31 PM
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Good, no more OKC to deal with.
Pretty much my reaction.
daslicer
07-05-2016, 07:25 PM
Everyone hating on KD for his decision, I hope you watch/listen to Mike Golic on "Mike and Mike" put all the haters in their place.
From what I watched it seemed like Stephen A took Mike to school and made him look stupid.
gambit1990
07-07-2016, 02:31 PM
good thing he's beta.
DenialTwist
07-07-2016, 02:59 PM
I still side with what SAS said honestly. I have never seen a top 3 player leave to go to the team that beat them when it was basically their fault for them not winning in the first place. OKC was not a scrub team, but a very nice and upcoming playoff team who looked to have turned a corner in getting back to the finals. Up 3-1.... what happened to KD and getting them to win 1 game? Oh yeah, he choked up and then quit and joined GS. Weak move.
Weaker than weak. It was gutless. Durant showed that he had no faith OKC could beat the Warriors with him so he jumped ship. Never thought someone would do that after all the backlash Lebron got. I guess KD wants "cheap jewelry" to go along with his cheap shoes.
Mr. Body
07-07-2016, 10:32 PM
Now that we know Draymond Green and the Warriors were buddy-buddy with Durant all year, how much was KD playing for the Warriors in Games 6 and 7? Did he know that it would be harder to join them if the Thunder actually beat them in the series? Was this in the back of his head?
james evans
07-08-2016, 09:16 AM
From my view, Bogut was a huge rim protector for their defense...when he was healthy. The Warriors will be great but not sure yet about their interior D. Their new pieces will fill have to fill that need. Offensively, what a powerhouse!
They added Zaza and David West. What does that tell you about rim protection? haha
cutewizard
07-08-2016, 09:18 AM
poor adams, he will be the only left there soon....
fuck durant!
cutewizard
07-08-2016, 09:19 AM
They added Zaza and David West. What does that tell you about rim protection? haha
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Gasol and Aldridge will own Zaza and West!
Solid D
07-08-2016, 10:11 AM
They added Zaza and David West. What does that tell you about rim protection? haha
Exactly!
turkish spurs fan
07-08-2016, 10:21 AM
spurs in 6 in conference finals. they will have problem sharing the ball. durant will not shoot where he must shoot and look for curry for ex in cluch time. this kind of situations will make gsw offense anxious. many turnovers too.
kobyz
07-08-2016, 10:23 AM
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Gasol and Aldridge will own Zaza and West!
So you saying warriors will win by 30 instead of 40?!?!
james evans
07-08-2016, 03:02 PM
So you saying warriors will win by 30 instead of 40?!?!
When we beat them, don't celebrate then since you've already picked them. Btw, they just lost Speights too
james evans
10-30-2016, 02:42 PM
So you saying warriors will win by 30 instead of 40?!?!
When we beat them, don't celebrate then since you've already picked them. Btw, they just lost Speights too
SpursIndonesia
10-30-2016, 08:19 PM
Keep playing them superstars near 40 minutes per game coach Kerr, would love to see some of them losing the steam by the time post season arrived.
picnroll
10-30-2016, 08:21 PM
Barely beating scrub teams playing their core major minutes. Fatigue and injuries guaranteed.
DAF86
10-30-2016, 08:25 PM
Damn, Warriors looking thin as fuck. One injury and they are screwed.
apalisoc_9
10-30-2016, 08:29 PM
Damn, Warriors looking thin as fuck. One injury and they are screwed.
With a curry injury, that team basically becomes A just Durant team. Anus is easy to stop and dray is not a legit offensive guy.
Just gotta hope tbh.
spursistan
10-30-2016, 08:35 PM
Damn, Warriors looking thin as fuck. One injury and they are screwed.
To scrape two wins versus two shitty teams and get blown out in another, their core had to be run down to the ground :
minutes played in first 3 games:
Curry:34,34,34
Green: 33, 34, 38
Durant: 37, 39, 38
Thompson:33, 39, 40
Good luck getting through 82 games with that kind of load..
apalisoc_9
10-30-2016, 08:39 PM
To scrape two wins versus two shitty teams and get blown out in another, their core had to be run down to the ground :
minutes played in first 3 games:
Curry:34,34,34
Green: 33, 34, 38
Durant: 37, 39, 38
Thompson:33, 39, 40
Good luck getting through 82 games with that kind of load..
And two of those games are against two of the worst team in the league.
DAF86
10-30-2016, 08:42 PM
With a curry injury, that team basically becomes A just Durant team. Anus is easy to stop and dray is not a legit offensive guy.
Just gotta hope tbh.
Curry injury is the dream scenario but they would be fucked with any kind of injury. Who do they play if Draymond gets injury? West? Who's the wing that gets significant playing time if any of Durant, Thompson or Iggy get injured?
I expect them to make some kind of moves to get some depth, but for now that rotation looks Rickety.
Cowboys_Wear_Spurs
10-30-2016, 08:43 PM
You can't win w/o depth in the this league. Look at the Heat, Whiteside almost tore his hamstring b/c Spo kept playing him the whole freakin 2nd half.
james evans
10-30-2016, 08:56 PM
now does everyone believe me? People don't believe shit stinks until they smell it
DAF86
10-30-2016, 08:57 PM
now does everyone believe me? People don't believe shit stinks until they smell it
I still have them as favourites, tbh.
james evans
10-30-2016, 09:14 PM
I still have them as favourites, tbh.
You're crazy. The only way that happens is if they get rid of Klay for a shot blocker
timtonymanu
10-30-2016, 09:47 PM
I still have them as favourites, tbh.
Going with the reigning champs on this one. Warriors need to hope some team is stupid enough to gift them a big.
spursistan
10-31-2016, 06:51 PM
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Draymond crying about teams trying to "punk" them when he's been kicking people in the nuts for two years.
Mr. Body
10-31-2016, 08:23 PM
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Durant makes them more iso-heavy while the lack of illegal screens means the pick and rolls don't automatically open up defenses.
Mr. Body
10-31-2016, 08:23 PM
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Durant makes them more iso-heavy while the lack of illegal screens means the pick and rolls don't automatically open up defenses.
spursistan
10-31-2016, 08:49 PM
Durant makes them more iso-heavy while the lack of illegal screens means the pick and rolls don't automatically open up defenses.
Which is why Westbrook as a ball-stopper and only culprit of OKC offensive predictability is such myth..Durant himself eats up quite few possessions ISOing and shooting over defenders..
raybies (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=42684) had a great post about this point last week..This is indeed reverse of the Heatles situation when eventually Wade had to hand off the Keys of the offense to Lebron..
Super early, but my thoughts are this.
Anything or anyone that takes shots and time away from Curry and his ability of creativity is gonna be a loss unless it's Lebron James. What makes or made the Warriors so explosive last year was the three ball and I mean the ball movement, the screens, and player movement without the ball getting those catch and shoot threes. Not to mention Stephs brilliance with the ball. KD as good as he is takes away from that. Durant offense is a downgrade from Curry offense imo. I want to see Durant post up. It's not a three. Durant will demand his ISO on mismatches and so does Thompson for that matter but Steph and Klay had a balance. KD is a big wrench the tool box right now. It's not news to anyone but they'll need time to adjust. They'll figure it out but at what cost. We have to hope that Durant doesn't realize he'll need to be completely selfless and let the ball flow. He has to be able to live with scoring in the low twenties and letting Steph and Klay and Draymond have there shots with Steph having the majority. Everyone should get less shots except Steph.
Also the lack of bench is an issue.
Obi Juan Kenobi
10-31-2016, 09:51 PM
Agreed...the less shots Curry gets the better...
SuperCam
11-01-2016, 11:01 PM
road warriors looking good tbh
james evans
11-05-2016, 01:08 AM
They added Zaza and David West. What does that tell you about rim protection? haha
gambit1990
11-05-2016, 02:02 AM
good thing he's beta.
fuck kevin durant, and fuck the warriors.
bklynspursfan
11-05-2016, 10:01 AM
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Spurs9
11-05-2016, 10:36 AM
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The Lakers would actually have been a pretty good team with KD and the pieces they have now with Luke tbh
John B
11-05-2016, 10:45 AM
Lakers would have given up their young cores also to make room. His best move was to stay at OKC but he was such a cupcake :lmao
All Mighty Janitor
11-05-2016, 11:08 AM
I thought that they would play aggressive wing defense to off set the lack of rim protection with Curry and Durant, in particular, playing much harder D. The bucks in 2014 were a great defensive team with Zaza in the lineup so it can be done. Oh well; hope they keep sucking ass so this team breaks up and so one tries this stupid shit again.
Mr. Body
11-05-2016, 11:12 AM
I didn't realize how fragile Durant is mentally. I don't think he could have worked with LMA. Kawhi eventually would have kicked their asses.
Damn, Warriors looking thin as fuck. One injury and they are screwed.
With a curry injury, that team basically becomes A just Durant team. Anus is easy to stop and dray is not a legit offensive guy.
Just gotta hope tbh.
To scrape two wins versus two shitty teams and get blown out in another, their core had to be run down to the ground :
minutes played in first 3 games:
Curry:34,34,34
Green: 33, 34, 38
Durant: 37, 39, 38
Thompson:33, 39, 40
Good luck getting through 82 games with that kind of load..
Curry injury is the dream scenario but they would be fucked with any kind of injury. Who do they play if Draymond gets injury? West? Who's the wing that gets significant playing time if any of Durant, Thompson or Iggy get injured?
I expect them to make some kind of moves to get some depth, but for now that rotation looks Rickety.
I didn't realize how fragile Durant is mentally. I don't think he could have worked with LMA. Kawhi eventually would have kicked their asses.
:lol this thread
DAF86
06-03-2017, 06:46 AM
:lol this thread
Why are you quoting posts about folks speculating about the Warriors getting injured when they aren't injured? Dumb motherfucker. :lol
Chillen
06-03-2017, 07:34 AM
Anyone who knows the NBA knows the Warriors if they ring it will have an asterisk. Durant joining the Warriors would be like prime Shaquille O'Neal joining the 1996 72-10 NBA champion Bulls. Imagine the 96 Bulls with Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, Kukoc, O'Neal, Harper, yikes that's a scary death lineup. Now about people caving and saying the Spurs are doomed Warriors will ring the next 7 seasons. Spurs are in a position now where they have to make moves to compete with this team. Anything can happen on the court, that's why they play the games. Warriors with Durant could have a bad season eventually, it happens.
Mr. Body
06-03-2017, 09:14 AM
:lol this thread
They had to fucking injure Kawhi to survive the series. They were down twenty plus when he went down, even without Parker.
HarlemHeat37
06-03-2017, 02:54 PM
You're crazy. The only way that happens is if they get rid of Klay for a shot blocker
:lmao
spurs10
06-04-2017, 11:19 AM
They had to fucking injure Kawhi to survive the series. They were down twenty plus when he went down, even without Parker. Yes they did indeed have to take Kawhi out and everybody knows it. If they win it will probably the least exciting win in history of the NBA. I could be wrong and the general public doesn't mind the lack of parity. I wish there was something Lebron could do to stop them, but adding R.C. Durbeta makes it tough.
Hoops Czar
06-04-2017, 12:58 PM
They had to fucking injure Kawhi to survive the series. They were down twenty plus when he went down, even without Parker.
Survive the series? :lol Why? Was it a one game series? Is Golden State not capable of making adjustments?
DPG21920
06-04-2017, 01:00 PM
Why are you quoting posts about folks speculating about the Warriors getting injured when they aren't injured? Dumb motherfucker. :lol
To be fair KD had a significant injury and GS still finished with the best record in the NBA if we are being honest here. It's ok to be wrong some times. They were thin but turned out not to matter much.
Mr. Body
06-04-2017, 01:05 PM
Survive the series? :lol Why? Was it a one game series? Is Golden State not capable of making adjustments?
Maybe they do, maybe they don't. They sure looked like they were getting rocked before Zaza Pachulia decided to take the series into his own hands.
DAF86
06-04-2017, 01:06 PM
To be fair KD had a significant injury and GS still finished with the best record in the NBA if we are being honest here. It's ok to be wrong some times. They were thin but turned out not to matter much.
If Durant gets injured now they wouldn't beat the Cavs, tbh.
DPG21920
06-04-2017, 01:18 PM
If Durant gets injured now they wouldn't beat the Cavs, tbh.
Ok but that's not exactly what you said. You made it seem like GS was "completely screwed" with an injury and they clearly were not.
They still played and beat a lot of good teams all regular season so there was much more wiggle room than you care to admit for some odd reason.
SpurOutofTownFan
06-04-2017, 08:03 PM
Knowing GS brought Durant to beat the Cavs and seeing what he's doing to them right now I'm more than convinced that the Spurs will attempt to get CP3 in. It looks like it will all come down to super teams, unfortunately.
If Durant had gone to the Spurs the backlash for him would have been much less than what it is now that he's with the team that beat them last year
I'm completely convinced the Spurs will go after A class FA this year
DPG21920
06-04-2017, 08:10 PM
Knowing GS brought Durant to beat the Cavs and seeing what he's doing to them right now I'm more than convinced that the Spurs will attempt to get CP3 in. It looks like it will all come down to super teams, unfortunately.
If Durant had gone to the Spurs the backlash for him would have been much less than what it is now that he's with the team that beat them last year
I'm completely convinced the Spurs will go after A class FA this year
We will see. A lot has to happen for that to happen. Plenty of roster turnover, trades, etc..It will not be easy getting there and then there is convincing said superstar to come to SA
SpurOutofTownFan
06-04-2017, 08:17 PM
We will see. A lot has to happen for that to happen. Plenty of roster turnover, trades, etc..It will not be easy getting there and then there is convincing said superstar to come to SA
Totally agree with you it will be difficult but I'm pretty sure they will go for it, if not Chris Paul then someone else. I wonder what would have happened if Durant had chosen the Spurs instead.
Chris Paul won't be enough to beat the GSW.
HarlemHeat37
06-04-2017, 09:38 PM
Man, the way the 2014 Spurs played in games 3-5 of the Finals is the way the Warriors play every game, tbh:lol fucking terrifying..
The opposing team can keep it close, but 1 Warriors run and they're down by 20 before they even blink..
bic50
06-04-2017, 09:53 PM
Chris Paul won't be enough to beat the GSW.
He could be but I don't think gutting the team for him is a good idea
Man, the way the 2014 Spurs played in games 3-5 of the Finals is the way the Warriors play every game, tbh:lol fucking terrifying..
The opposing team can keep it close, but 1 Warriors run and they're down by 20 before they even blink..
Dont worry. According to people here we just need Kawhi and Paul plus three scrubs.
That could be enough if Durant and Curry die in a car accident, this Summer..
Maybe we can have them get a ride with D. Fisher.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19533897/former-los-angeles-lakers-player-derek-fisher-accused-dui-crash
HarlemHeat37
06-04-2017, 10:05 PM
Maybe we can have them get a ride with D. Fisher.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19533897/former-los-angeles-lakers-player-derek-fisher-accused-dui-crash
:lol or have RC Buford driving an Uber, on the low..
spurs10
06-04-2017, 10:13 PM
I believe no one is going to be all excited for Durant. If people are interested in watching this I'd be surprised. I wouldn't pay a penny to see this joke of a Finals.
BatManu20
06-04-2017, 10:27 PM
Kind of hoping the Cavs get swept now tbh. They're going to lose regardless, but it would look worse for both the league and KD if the Cavs just get blown out every game.
HarlemHeat37
06-04-2017, 10:42 PM
Kind of hoping the Cavs get swept now tbh. They're going to lose regardless, but it would look worse for both the league and KD if the Cavs just get blown out every game.
I keep hearing this, but I don't know what people expect from the league, tbh..they can't prevent a player from joining a team, the union would be all over that + it would become a racial issue, as well:lol
Blame Durant, that's it..
Play Boban
06-04-2017, 10:50 PM
Durant has made Curry his beech. :lol. The Servant is now the serving out a dish of whoopass. :wow
Play Boban
06-04-2017, 10:51 PM
:lol Curry getting cucked by The Servant. :lol
DAF86
06-04-2017, 10:51 PM
Ok but that's not exactly what you said. You made it seem like GS was "completely screwed" with an injury and they clearly were not.
They still played and beat a lot of good teams all regular season so there was much more wiggle room than you care to admit for some odd reason.
I was never talking about the regular season, tbh. Of course they were going to still be good on the regular season when 80% of the league sucks right now. Did you really think I was expecting a Curry, Thompson, Green lead team to lose a significant % of their games in the regular season just because they lost Durant? I was thinking long term, when things matter most, on a playoffs series vs the Cavs or the Spurs at full strength.
In fact, I remember being one of the few guys saying the Spurs wouldn't catch the Warriors on the standings when Durant went down.
BatManu20
06-04-2017, 10:55 PM
I keep hearing this, but I don't know what people expect from the league, tbh..they can't prevent a player from joining a team, the union would be all over that + it would become a racial issue, as well:lol
Blame Durant, that's it..
Yea obv there's nothing they can do.. but it still makes KD's decision look even cheaper and easier to ridicule, which, like you said, is all you can really do that this point.
HarlemHeat37
06-04-2017, 10:57 PM
Yea obv there's nothing they can do.. but it still makes KD's decision look even cheaper and easier to ridicule, which, like you said, is all you can really do that this point.
Yep..honestly, I'd probably throw a game if I was them, tbh:lol going 16-0 and setting a record will probably create more backlash for Durant, as opposed to merely tying the Lakers' 15-1..
Doesn't really matter, though..he's going to get what he wanted, and he'll live in peace in the SF bubble..
DAF86
06-04-2017, 11:02 PM
Ok but that's not exactly what you said. You made it seem like GS was "completely screwed" with an injury and they clearly were not.
They still played and beat a lot of good teams all regular season so there was much more wiggle room than you care to admit for some odd reason.
I was never talking about the regular season, tbh. Of course they were going to still be good on the regular season when 80% of the league sucks right now. Did you really think I was expecting a Curry, Thompson, Green lead team to lose a significant % of their games in the regular season just because they lost Durant? I was thinking long term, when things matter most, on a playoffs series vs the Cavs or the Spurs at full strength.
In fact, I remember being one of the few guys saying the Spurs wouldn't catch the Warriors on the standings when Durant went down.
What I said back then:
There's no chance of Spurs getting the 1st seed, tbh.
Problem isn't the Spurs winning, it's the Warriors losing.
Curry, Draymond, Thompson and the rest of the guys that have been winning games at an 85% rate on the last three seasons aren't going 16 and 6 in their last 22 games.
It's sad. Cavs played as well as they can on the road and lose by 20. GSW made it look effortless.
The problem is is no one will be able to get a super team like the Warriors. Durant is talking about sacrificing 4 million next year. But he signed a near max last year. Durant wasn't giving up $50 million. The NBA passed a rule after the the GSW team to stop super teams like GSW from forming. So to form a super team now, you have to convince superstars to walk from $50 million or more. That's too much money to pass. Basically, you can't form super teams anymore. GSW has a monopoly.
coachmac87
06-04-2017, 11:10 PM
Yep..honestly, I'd probably throw a game if I was them, tbh:lol going 16-0 and setting a record will probably create more backlash for Durant, as opposed to merely tying the Lakers' 15-1..
Doesn't really matter, though..he's going to get what he wanted, and he'll live in peace in the SF bubble..
I don't think ONE championship can keep KD from getting ridiculed tbh...they've gotta win multiple. The problem is if they continue dominating like this from 2-3 years the interest in the league imo will decline significantly..and LeBron-Jordan hype machine will be gone or faded...
It sucks to say but the league needs more super teams..Boston and SA seem the next candidates to improve get there starting maybe this offseason..
This offseason has the potential to be nuts
Trainwreck2100
06-04-2017, 11:14 PM
I don't think ONE championship can keep KD from getting ridiculed tbh...they've gotta win multiple. The problem is if they continue dominating like this from 2-3 years the interest in the league imo will decline significantly..and LeBron-Jordan hype machine will be gone or faded...
It sucks to say but the league needs more super teams..Boston and SA seem the next candidates to improve get there starting maybe this offseason..
This offseason has the potential to be nuts
one is all he needs, all this current nba cares about is one ring to validate your legacy. 25 years from now nobody will care how he got it they'll just see he has one
coachmac87
06-04-2017, 11:22 PM
one is all he needs, all this current nba cares about is one ring to validate your legacy. 25 years from now nobody will care how he got it they'll just see he has one
If he wins multiple and dominates with MVPs it was a success and his bitch move will be forgotten...but if he only wins this year..we will be talking about Kawhis injury and the bitch move he made this offseason..
TD 21
06-04-2017, 11:29 PM
I don't think ONE championship can keep KD from getting ridiculed tbh...they've gotta win multiple. The problem is if they continue dominating like this from 2-3 years the interest in the league imo will decline significantly..and LeBron-Jordan hype machine will be gone or faded...
It sucks to say but the league needs more super teams..Boston and SA seem the next candidates to improve get there starting maybe this offseason..
This offseason has the potential to be nuts
The amount is irrelevant. No one with any sense would ever consider that coward a true champion, no matter how many hollow championships they win. They can pretend all they want for the cameras, but deep down how could they possibly be deriving any satisfaction from this? It's men against boys.
I'm not even sure how to put into context Curry's and their team's "legacy", either. Who cares how much they win and win by, when no one can so much as challenge them? Had they won something like 3 championships and had longevity of regular season dominance without Durant, that would have been a lot more impressive than double the championships, with him.
coachmac87
06-04-2017, 11:41 PM
The amount is irrelevant. No one with any sense would ever consider that coward a true champion, no matter how many hollow championships they win. They can pretend all they want for the cameras, but deep down how could they possibly be deriving any satisfaction from this? It's men against boys.
I'm not even sure how to put into context Curry's and their team's "legacy", either. Who cares how much they win and win by, when no one can so much as challenge them? Had they won something like 3 championships and had longevity of regular season dominance without Durant, that would have been a lot more impressive than double the championships, with him.
It'll hit home once the media somewhat turns on them...the only reason it's hyped so much is cause the LeBron-Jordan side story..but that'll fade quick starting maybe this year if they get swept..
TD 21
06-04-2017, 11:46 PM
It'll hit home once the media somewhat turns on them...the only reason the it's hyped so much is cause the LeBron-Jordan side story..but that'll fade quick starting maybe this year if they get swept..
They won't. The media always kisses the hype machines asses in this league and these particular ones are known for being media friendly and have a coach who used to be a broadcaster and is buddies with a lot of them.
The James detractors will point to his 3-5 Finals record as supposed proof of his inferiority, but Jordan never played a single team in the Finals as good as 6 of the 8 (Spurs and Warriors) James has.
coachmac87
06-04-2017, 11:52 PM
They won't. The media always kisses the hype machines asses in this league and these particular ones are known for being media friendly and have a coach who used to be a broadcaster and is buddies with a lot of them.
The James detractors will point to his 3-5 Finals record as supposed proof of his inferiority, but Jordan never played a single team in the Finals as good as 6 of the 8 (Spurs and Warriors) James has.
Well it'll depend on the ratings/interes of the casual fan....the league may never see a consistent dominance like this and that could a good or bad thing..but if people keep watching the ass kickings then yeah that's a different story
BillMc
06-05-2017, 12:17 AM
What margin of victory do the Dubs need to average to break the Spurs record over the Heat from 2014 for total Finals series margin? Want to keep that.
TXstbobcat
06-05-2017, 12:35 AM
What margin of victory do the Dubs need to average to break the Spurs record over the Heat from 2014 for total Finals series margin? Want to keep that.
14.5 points in the 2014 finals.
BillMc
06-05-2017, 12:38 AM
14.5 points in the 2014 finals.
Cheers.:toast
Frankly, they may get it. Depends on if Cavs have any fight at home or if they're already planning vacation.
Would look bad for GOAT-candidate LeBron if he's on the losing end of the two greatest series beatdowns in Finals history.
TXstbobcat
06-05-2017, 12:50 AM
Cheers.:toast
Frankly, they may get it. Depends on if Cavs have any fight at home or if they're already planning vacation.
Would look bad for GOAT-candidate LeBron if he's on the losing end of the two greatest series beatdowns in Finals history.
I really hope they don't get that record. Would like that Record to stand to show how special that 2014 team was.
Need LeBron and the Cavs to not roll over and play dead at home in games three and four.
BillMc
06-05-2017, 12:56 AM
I really hope they don't get that record. Would like that Record to stand to show how special that 2014 team was.
Need LeBron and the Cavs to not roll over and play dead at home in games three and four.
Agree
BillMc
06-05-2017, 01:03 AM
Durant's real opponent for the remaining finals games is not LeBron or any other Cav. It's Curry. If KD wins the Finals MVP its the perfect antidote to the "coattails" argument...i.e that he got there on the coattails of the 70 win stacked team that beat him the year before.
Critic: "Hey, Kevin, you coattailed your way to a ring."
KD: "Who was the most valuable in the Finals?"
Critic: "You."
KD: "Can't call it riding the coattails if you're the MVP."
True or not, that kills that narrative to a large degree.
If Curry wins it though, the coattail narrative continues somewhat. People will remember that Curry was MVP and Durant joined his team, no matter how well KD performed. And Curry wants FMVP as he didn't get it in 2015. And there has been some criticism that he doesn't show up in the Finals. He'd like that trophy as much as KD.
Curry vs. Durant is the real contest going on here even if the two will never admit it.
SAGirl
06-05-2017, 01:09 AM
Cheers.:toast
Frankly, they may get it. Depends on if Cavs have any fight at home or if they're already planning vacation.
Would look bad for GOAT-candidate LeBron if he's on the losing end of the two greatest series beatdowns in Finals history.
Both in the explosive chucking 3 pts shooting era.
The league needs to bring the big men back. They nerfed the bigs and protected shooters and this what you get.
coachmac87
06-05-2017, 01:12 AM
Durant's real opponent for the remaining finals games is not LeBron or any other Cav. It's Curry. If KD wins the Finals MVP its the perfect antidote to the "coattails" argument...i.e that he got there on the coattails of the 70 win stacked team that beat him the year before.
Critic: "Hey, Kevin, you coattailed your way to a ring."
KD: "Who was the most valuable in the Finals?"
Critic: "You."
KD: "Can't call it riding the coattails if you're the MVP."
True or not, that kills that narrative to a large degree.
If Curry wins it though, the coattail narrative continues somewhat. People will remember that Curry was MVP and Durant joined his team, no matter how well KD performed. And Curry wants FMVP as he didn't get it in 2015. And there has been some criticism that he doesn't show up in the Finals. He'd like that trophy as much as KD.
Curry vs. Durant is the real contest going on here even if the two will never admit it.
The league will pull some liberal shit and give them "Co-FMVP"
BillMc
06-05-2017, 01:13 AM
Both in the explosive chucking 3 pts shooting era.
The league needs to bring the big men back. They nerfed the bigs and protected shooters and this what you get.
I agree. The product has become kind of a carnival arcade game on steroids. Losing my interest to a large degree. Fortunately, watching Kawhi's prime will keep me tuning in.
BillMc
06-05-2017, 01:16 AM
The league will pull some liberal shit and give them "Co-FMVP"
Sad but possible. Let's hope not.
jermaine
06-05-2017, 04:56 AM
Durrant will get FMVP just cuz he's guarding an being guarded by Labron!!! I'm not a KD fan but he's doing his thang.. I mean It's easier to do your thang on the best team thou!!!
sananspursfan21
06-05-2017, 08:51 AM
I agree. The product has become kind of a carnival arcade game on steroids. Losing my interest to a large degree. Fortunately, watching Kawhi's prime will keep me tuning in.
Dis me too
jermaine
06-05-2017, 09:18 AM
I agree. The product has become kind of a carnival arcade game on steroids. Losing my interest to a large degree. Fortunately, watching Kawhi's prime will keep me tuning in.
I also cosign with this! It's like playing a video game.. it's fun til everyone starts finding glitches on YouTube. But there's nuttin else to watch, so I keep watching.
HarlemHeat37
06-05-2017, 12:20 PM
What can the league do, though? They can't force Durant to leave:lol even if they could, I don't think the players around the league would accept being patronized like that, anyways, would look pathetic..
Changing the length of the 3-point line is their only move, I suppose..maybe bring back handchecking, but then you'll revert to unwatchable basketball like the 90s and the 2004 Pistons-type teams..
The league will pull some liberal shit and give them "Co-FMVP"
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HarlemHeat37
06-05-2017, 08:24 PM
Damn, ratings are up:lol NBA is loving this..
http://www.nba.com/article/2017/06/05/nba-finals-ratings-most-watched-jordan-1998
DAF86
06-05-2017, 09:24 PM
What can the league do, though?
Move strings under the table to help create another superteam to challenge the Warriors. Now that would be must see TV.
daslicer
06-05-2017, 09:29 PM
What can the league do, though? They can't force Durant to leave:lol even if they could, I don't think the players around the league would accept being patronized like that, anyways, would look pathetic..
Changing the length of the 3-point line is their only move, I suppose..maybe bring back handchecking, but then you'll revert to unwatchable basketball like the 90s and the 2004 Pistons-type teams..
:lol Come on now you can't honestly believe hand checking is boring considering your favorite player Draymond Green does it all the time.
DAF86
06-05-2017, 09:30 PM
Irving, Kawhi, Lebron, Gianis and Anthony Davis. Would that beat the Warriors? I'm not sure, tbh.
Irving, Kawhi, Lebron, Gianis and Anthony Davis. Would that beat the Warriors? I'm not sure, tbh.
Yes, and it's not even close. Though I'd replace Irving with CP3 as he actually plays defense :stirpot:
gospursgojas
06-06-2017, 03:47 PM
Damn, ratings are up:lol NBA is loving this..
http://www.nba.com/article/2017/06/05/nba-finals-ratings-most-watched-jordan-1998
Yeah that sucks. There's nothing to be fixed bc the product is not broken in NBAs eyes. In fact, its quite the opposite.
As much as basketball fans hate it, nothing will change as long as ratings continue to be great. The average Joe loves the big names all on 1 team, the simplistic nature of run down and chuck up a 3, and the excitement of chest pounding, high stepping, mouth guard chewing players. Speaking of the 3 pt shot and the average joe, I can see someone who doesn't appreciate the intricacies of the game of basketball easily asking "why wouldn't they just come down and shoot a 3 each time, 3 points are better than 2".
Its the product the league is giving us and there isn't any reason for them to change it.
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