Timmy leaning strongly towards retirement - Per Woj

[SpursforSix]

Making a couple of more millions?

sigh.. just one percenter things.

supposedly, he wants to be a part owner in the team when he retires in 2017.

[gambit1990]

2013:
http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/2ip3O_4AsgmiYSri9qUD5Q--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3NfbGVnbztxPTg1O3c9MzEw/http://media.zenfs.com/en_US/Sports/AP_NBA/201306210057034343273-p5.jpg

2014:
http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Tim+Duncan+Sydney+Duncan+2014+NBA+Finals+Game+nZHG qrCy60ml.jpg

[GSH]

It better happen sooner. Sure, the team can probably deal with signing Murray using cap space, but by the time he decides, it may be too late to use the room exception.

Its not that dam hard to think about... Either his old ass wanna play or he dont! Hell he could tell them he dont wanna play away gms in the regular season!


I haven't been in the room (obviously) but by all accounts, Tim has been intimately involved in personnel decisions, for years - as he should have been. That's why it's so hard for me to believe that there isn't some purpose in this delay. They're trying to use his contract for a trade? Maybe he's agreed to come back, if they can't get some other deal done? I thought it was the possibility of a disabled player exception, but Chinook shot that down pretty hard. I just think that whatever is going on, he and the FO are in on it together. I don't think it's just a matter of him stringing out the decision, and leaving the team hanging in free agency. That just doesn't fit with how things have worked here for so long.

[BillMc]

I haven't been in the room (obviously) but by all accounts, Tim has been intimately involved in personnel decisions, for years - as he should have been. That's why it's so hard for me to believe that there isn't some purpose in this delay. They're trying to use his contract for a trade? Maybe he's agreed to come back, if they can't get some other deal done? I thought it was the possibility of a disabled player exception, but Chinook shot that down pretty hard. I just think that whatever is going on, he and the FO are in on it together. I don't think it's just a matter of him stringing out the decision, and leaving the team hanging in free agency. That just doesn't fit with how things have worked here for so long.

Generally I agree with you, but retirement could be a bitch decision to make. There is a real possibility that Timmy is agonizing over this and the FO respects him enough not to push him. He's earned it, even if it is causing problems.

Like you, I have no way of knowing. It's a Schrodinger's Cat state where Tim is simultaneously retired and un-retired.

[houston spurs fan]

2013:
http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/2ip3O_4AsgmiYSri9qUD5Q--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3NfbGVnbztxPTg1O3c9MzEw/http://media.zenfs.com/en_US/Sports/AP_NBA/201306210057034343273-p5.jpg

2014:
http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Tim+Duncan+Sydney+Duncan+2014+NBA+Finals+Game+nZHG qrCy60ml.jpg
Never a loss tougher for us, never a win more sweeter...Number 5 will always be the best.

[cd98]

I agree that it takes time to decide if you want to put your 40-year old body through the NBA grind (including getting ready to start the season). But as it appears to me, the Spurs can't move forward with other moves until they know Duncan's intentions.

[SpursforSix]

Generally I agree with you, but retirement could be a bitch decision to make. There is a real possibility that Timmy is agonizing over this and the FO respects him enough not to push him. He's earned it, even if it is causing problems.

Like you, I have no way of knowing. It's a Schroeder's Cat state where Tim is simultaneously retired and un-retired.

What's mystifying is that when Parker is put into Schrodinger's Box, both states are slow and can't pass.

[houston spurs fan]

Generally I agree with you, but retirement could be a bitch decision to make. There is a real possibility that Timmy is agonizing over this and the FO respects him enough not to push him. He's earned it, even if it is causing problems.

Like you, I have no way of knowing. It's a Schroeder's Cat state where Tim is simultaneously retired and un-retired.
This. Really think the organization is just giving him space and are waiting like everyone else. With he and Pop's relationship he's probably the only one he's discussing this with,that's why we have zero indication.

[Jdspur20]

He will be back for one more year.:flag:

[GSH]

Like you, I have no way of knowing. It's a Schroeder's Cat state where Tim is simultaneously retired and un-retired.


LOL. First it's Lovecraft references, now quantum superposition. I'm pretty sure that not many people look at basketball the way you do. :toast

[BillMc]

What's mystifying is that when Parker is put into Schrodinger's Box, both states are slow and can't pass.

Parker adheres to classical physics. :lol


This. Really think the organization is just giving him space and are waiting like everyone else. With he and Pop's relationship he's probably the only one he's discussing this with,that's why we have zero indication.

Yeah. Though RC might be in on the talks. But it sounds like Manu is even genuinely clueless on the subject.

[BillMc]

LOL. First it's Lovecraft references, now quantum superposition. I'm pretty sure that not many people look at basketball the way you do. :toast

Well, I never mastered a jump hook so you go with that you got. :lol

[NameLess Scrub]

supposedly, he wants to be a part owner in the team when he retires in 2017.

Well at least he's got a date :lol

[Keepin' it real]

Ramona Shellburn on ESPN just said Tim can take all the time he wants and the Spurs are in no hurry since Gasol has agreed to sign with the Spurs. So why all the hubbub here?

[GSH]

Ramona Shellburn on ESPN just said Tim can take all the time he wants and the Spurs are in no hurry since Gasol has agreed to sign with the Spurs. So why all the hubbub here?


Well we keep saying it's because the Spurs are actively involved in free agency, and need to know where they are so they know who/how they can sign. But if that's not good enough for you, then because it's just damned inconvenient to people like us who want to know NOW. :lol


(BTW - you might as well know that you can post any damn stupid thing you want on this thread, and you're gonna have at least one reader. I keep clicking it EVERY time it comes to the top. I've got my black suit ready to start mourning and everything, in case Timmy announces his retirement. I keep trying it on, and if he doesn't tell us soon, it's going to be too wrinkled.)

[sasaint]

LOL... so I answered a question that wasn't really a question. :lol

I really feel sorry for Lorbek right now. That poor bastard really wants a chance to play, but he can't stay healthy. I think missing these early games due to injuries in warm-ups has already doomed him. He'll get a chance to play a few games, if he's up to it, but I don't think they will look at him seriously anymore. That's a shame for him.

But way better for the Spurs to find out he is made of glass now.

[GSH]

But way better for the Spurs to find out he is made of glass now.

Oh, for sure. I still feel badly for him, though. I'm not sure what 6'10" guys in Slovenia do to make a living, but I'm sure it would help to have a couple years of NBA salary as a nest egg.

[Keepin' it real]

Well we keep saying it's because the Spurs are actively involved in free agency, and need to know where they are so they know who/how they can sign. But if that's not good enough for you, then because it's just damned inconvenient to people like us who want to know NOW. :lol



:lol

[pgardn]

Generally I agree with you, but retirement could be a bitch decision to make. There is a real possibility that Timmy is agonizing over this and the FO respects him enough not to push him. He's earned it, even if it is causing problems.

Like you, I have no way of knowing. It's a Schrodinger's Cat state where Tim is simultaneously retired and un-retired.

I think the above is a very reasonable take.
This is more than allowing for NBA contract intricacies, this is about the end of a guy who has tried to help this franchise in so many ways. It's not like he's going Kobe on us and willfully delaying the rebuilding of a team.

[myhc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_iN6qwvoS8

I still laugh at all the people who think Tim is not a top 10 all time player and is just a product of Pop's system.

[Keepin' it real]

I still laugh at all the people who think Tim is not a top 10 all time player and is just a product of Pop's system.

I've never seen, read or heard this before.

[Spur|n|Austin]

LOL. First it's Lovecraft references, now quantum superposition. I'm pretty sure that not many people look at basketball the way you do. :toast

Don't forget Groucho quotes :)

[BillMc]

. It's not like he's going Kobe on us and willfully delaying the rebuilding of a team.

Good point!:toast

[GSH]

Don't forget Groucho quotes :)

I missed that. That's a true Renaissance Man right there.

[TeKu]

Is a retirement decision 'final'? I'm guessing someone can always choose to play again if they want (Like Ray Allen is looking at now, but he didn't officially retire) but is that decision made more difficult/complicated by 1. officially retiring, or 2. Spurs using the stretch provision on his contract? If either of those things happen can he even come back to the Spurs in Feb/Mar if he wanted another run, or would that only be possible with another team?

[Thomas82]

I still laugh at all the people who think Tim is not a top 10 all time player and is just a product of Pop's system.

He is the system.

[Kawhitstorm]

Its not that dam hard to think about... Either his old ass wanna play or he dont! Hell he could tell them he dont wanna play away gms in the regular season!

It's probably PATFO trying to talk him into playing so they don't have to sign a backup center.

[TeKu]

Is a retirement decision 'final'? I'm guessing someone can always choose to play again if they want (Like Ray Allen is looking at now, but he didn't officially retire) but is that decision made more difficult/complicated by 1. officially retiring, or 2. Spurs using the stretch provision on his contract? If either of those things happen can he even come back to the Spurs in Feb/Mar if he wanted another run, or would that only be possible with another team?

Spent 20 mins reading Coons FAQ (like I should have done in the first place). Far from clear (don't think a stretched player has ever returned to the same team again) but I couldn't find anything that meant Timmy couldn't choose to return later in the season if he wanted too. The only thing that would stop that is if the Spurs traded his contract to another team and they waived him, he then couldn't rejoin the Spurs for 12 months.

[tbdog]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR6AgYWdoBQ

[BillMc]

Sorry if this was already posted. 3 AM here and too sleepy to scroll through:

From SA Express:



"At some point in the near future, the Spurs might waive Tim Duncan. If that jaw-dropping transaction occurs, it won’t be anything personal. It will not be a slap to the face of the once-a-generation player most responsible for the franchise’s five championships. On the contrary, it would be a gift. ... If Duncan does decide to walk away, waiving him would be one way for the Spurs to ensure he collects every penny of the $6.4 million due on his contract for next season."

Whole article here:
http://www.expressnews.com/sports/spurs/article/Spurs-on-hold-for-the-end-of-an-era-8343962.php?t=71a00b506f927fc3fb&cmpid=twitter-premium#photo-10210082


Nothing we haven't talked about here. But that's the first time I've heard the words "waive Tim Duncan" in the media. :depressed

[024]

I know Duncan had to decide before the Durbeta decision but he should have opted out. Then he and Manu could split the $15 million cap space (maybe 10 for Duncan, 5 for Manu) used to sign Gasol and do a farewell tour. Even Dirk is getting that farewell contract.

Spurs aren't winning this year. They have so many holes and Parker probably can't even get any minutes against the Warriors (he can't guard: Curry, Thompson, Durant, Green, Iguodola, Livingston, Zaza, West). Might as well give the money to Manu and Duncan and do a proper farewell tour.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Tim is retiring, he doesn't want to do the Kobe farewell tour. It's been a hell of a ride

[Proxy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR6AgYWdoBQ

there was a nice play in there by TP where he got blocked by Shaq and then fouled Fisher on a 3pt attempt for a 4 point play.

[Keepin' it real]

I know Duncan had to decide before the Durbeta decision but he should have opted out. Then he and Manu could split the $15 million cap space (maybe 10 for Duncan, 5 for Manu) used to sign Gasol and do a farewell tour. Even Dirk is getting that farewell contract.

Spurs aren't winning this year. They have so many holes and Parker probably can't even get any minutes against the Warriors (he can't guard: Curry, Thompson, Durant, Green, Iguodola, Livingston, Zaza, West). Might as well give the money to Manu and Duncan and do a proper farewell tour.

Oh. Ok. Thanks.

[spurs10]

I have never felt Tim was retiring. I've never heard him say it at least. I have hoped he could back Pau up and not play too many minutes. Now if he is in pain and has a hard time moving then of course I get it. Here's to Tim not being in pain and not retiring! :toast

[SAGirl]

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It better happen sooner. If he hadn't opted in, this wouldn't be an issue. But he did. So now he has to deal with it. This just seems to be very odd timing. The biggest thing is that the team really can't afford to carry Duncan's contract for much longer. They really aren't set up for him to return, financially. They made so many commitments already, that a number of folks will have to take less for him to come back now. That wouldn't be the case had he opted out.


Generally I agree with you, but retirement could be a bitch decision to make. There is a real possibility that Timmy is agonizing over this and the FO respects him enough not to push him. He's earned it, even if it is causing problems.


It's probably PATFO trying to talk him into playing so they don't have to sign a backup center.


Tim is retiring, he doesn't want to do the Kobe farewell tour. It's been a hell of a ride

So much here. All of this ^^^ He took the option to retire. He doesn't want the farewell tour. Pop has probably discussed rest and maintenance schedules, roles, with him that have maybe made him reconsider a little bit, after he was already made up in his mind to retired, so he wavered late and if there is a chance he changes his mind, the Spurs would take him with open arms. The wait is because they are hoping he reconsiders IMO. And nobody knows that, not even Tim apparently.

[BillMc]

Don't forget Groucho quotes :)


I missed that. That's a true Renaissance Man right there.

:toast Thanks but do Renaissance men lock BOTH their keys and spare keys in their car? Renaissance idiot more like. :lol

[tmtcsc]

So much here. All of this ^^^ He took the option to retire. He doesn't want the farewell tour. Pop has probably discussed rest and maintenance schedules, roles, with him that have maybe made him reconsider a little bit, after he was already made up in his mind to retired, so he wavered late and if there is a chance he changes his mind, the Spurs would take him with open arms. The wait is because they are hoping he reconsiders IMO. And nobody knows that, not even Tim apparently.

Tim was great last year - all the way until his right knee started to bother him. If you can't move, you can't move. If the knee feels better, than I selfishly hope he decides to stay. Put in 20 and then retire. If he can't play,nobody wants to see a legend struggling on the court to play with scrubs. I wonder if he has been working out at all.

[tbdog]

So much here. All of this ^^^ He took the option to retire. He doesn't want the farewell tour. Pop has probably discussed rest and maintenance schedules, roles, with him that have maybe made him reconsider a little bit, after he was already made up in his mind to retired, so he wavered late and if there is a chance he changes his mind, the Spurs would take him with open arms. The wait is because they are hoping he reconsiders IMO. And nobody knows that, not even Tim apparently.

I thought if Spurs waive him, they cant then resign him. And even if they could, a team could pick him up off waivers just to meet the salary floor.

[MannyIsGod]

Can't the Spurs trade that contract for an asset, then have the other team just waive him? Even if you take on a "bad" contract is it really that bad considering it was before the new cap?

[Sean Cagney]

Making a couple of more millions?

sigh.. just one percenter things.

Yes he is making money, meant his play was gone a long time ago and he has not been very productive. He can play as long as he wants though, just as long as it is not on my fave team where he is taking up space and money (We have Bonner for that).
Tim was great last year - all the way until his right knee started to bother him. If you can't move, you can't move. If the knee feels better, than I selfishly hope he decides to stay. Put in 20 and then retire. If he can't play,nobody wants to see a legend struggling on the court to play with scrubs. I wonder if he has been working out at all.

This.

[024]

Oh. Ok. Thanks.
No prob.

[Sean Cagney]

I've never seen, read or heard this before.

Agreed, Tim is the damn system...

[BillMc]

So these latest signings (Manu at a high salary, Dedmond) only work if Tim is being stretched? And if so, obviously that means he's retiring. It's 100% now, I think.

Some cap person give me a ray of hope.

[Chinook]

So these latest signings (Manu at a high salary, Dedmond) only work if Tim is being stretched? And if so, obviously that means he's retiring. It's 100% now, I think.

Some cap person give me a ray of hope.

Yeah. I think they're assuming he's done. But technically, it won't be finalized until Manu takes his deal.

[BillMc]

Yeah. I think they're assuming he's done. But technically, it won't be finalized until Manu takes his deal.

Thanks. That's what I thought.

[Joseph Kony]

If Manu is supposedly getting a raise then yes, it seems Duncan will likely be stretched meaning he's gone :depressed

[DPG21920]

Can't the Spurs trade that contract for an asset, then have the other team just waive him? Even if you take on a "bad" contract is it really that bad considering it was before the new cap?

To answer your question: Yes, technically SA can trade him. However, with the route SA has seemingly elected to go, they can't. SA went the cap space route and with all the signings announced (and the fact Manu's cap hold is indeed staying) the only way they have the money to sign Pau after trading Boris is if Tim has retired and his salary is stretched.

If they traded Tim it would have to be for a player making what Tim's stretched salary is basically.

[Hoops Czar]

Yeah. I think they're assuming he's done. But technically, it won't be finalized until Manu takes his deal.

I thought they could go over the salary cap to pay Manu? Why would that affect Tim re-signing?

[BillMc]

If Manu is supposedly getting a raise then yes, it seems Duncan will likely be stretched meaning he's gone :depressed

Saddest day in a long time for Spurs fans. :depressed

[SPURt]

So these latest signings (Manu at a high salary, Dedmond) only work if Tim is being stretched? And if so, obviously that means he's retiring. It's 100% now, I think.

Some cap person give me a ray of hope.
It depends on what Manu does, we don't know what Manu is taking. I wonder how much Manu wants to play with Tim one more year? Manu's agent said he is taking way less to play this year for the Spurs than a more competitive offer elsewhere. I think Denver was the team, they had cap room for Wade but I could see Manu turning them down for the same reasons.

Sadly, I too worry the next time we see 21 on a Spurs jersey it's going to be up in the rafters.

[Chinook]

I thought they could go over the salary cap to pay Manu? Why would that affect Tim re-signing?

Tim is still under contract. They don't have the space to keep Tim on if Manu is signed with his Bird rights. The only logic way all the reports fit together is if Tim is leave with the team stretching his contract.

[Nathan89]

Whatever they do with Tim's contract it better not impact targeting a pg next year. Especially now that the expected cap is 6 mil lower.

[snickles]

We're in the darkest timeline.

nah, if this was the darkest timeline, kawhi would have lost an arm, manu would be in an asylum, tony would speaking through a voice box, mills would be a drunk, bonner would have a blue streak in his hair, tim would have faked his own death, and pop would have an evil black goatee.


yes, i know noone else will get this.

[gambit1990]

Tim is still under contract. They don't have the space to keep Tim on if Manu is signed with his Bird rights. The only logic way all the reports fit together is if Tim is leave with the team stretching his contract.
td opted in though. so don't you mean we wouldn't have the space to keep manu? unless the spurs stretched td's contract.

[Chinook]

td opted in though. so don't you mean we wouldn't have the space to keep manu? unless the spurs stretched td's contract.

Yes, and they likely won't stretch him unless he's retiring. But if they don't, Manu could also take a min deal or something close to it. I have no idea if that's something he'd want to do, though.

[FvckMavs]

Yes, and they likely won't stretch him unless he's retiring. But if they don't, Manu could also take a min deal or something close to it. I have no idea if that's something he'd want to do, though.

If they trade Patty and choose not to bring over LJC, they may be able to pay Timmy 6.3m and keep Manu's cap hold.

[Chinook]

If they trade Patty and choose not to bring over LJC, they may be able to pay Timmy 6.3m and keep Manu's cap hold.

Again, that's really not their choice at this point. Anyway, don't forget that the roster charges pretty much mitigate the advantage of cutting them out of the cap work. And I am not trading Patty just to give Manu more money. I like Forbes as much as the next guy, but Mills isn't going anywhere this year, I don't think.

[FvckMavs]

Again, that's really not their choice at this point. Anyway, don't forget that the roster charges pretty much mitigate the advantage of cutting them out of the cap work. And I am not trading Patty just to give Manu more money. I like Forbes as much as the next guy, but Mills isn't going anywhere this year, I don't think.

Timmy is gone then.

[timtonymanu]

nah, if this was the darkest timeline, kawhi would have lost an arm, manu would be in an asylum, tony would speaking through a voice box, mills would be a drunk, bonner would have a blue streak in his hair, tim would have faked his own death, and pop would have an evil black goatee.


yes, i know noone else will get this.

Best episode of Season 3. :lol

[tmtcsc]

We're in the darkest timeline.

:lmao You must be young or a new fan to the Spurs. You obviously don't remember the Pre-Tim years when the Utah Jazz bitch slapped the Spurs around every year. When the team's fortunes rested on a backcourt of Lloyd Daniels and Vinny Del Negro.

Nah, the Spurs will be ok. We are all just going to miss the greatness that was Tim Duncan. The guy stayed true to his word and played till the wheels fell off. -- Plural.

[The Great Fantastic]

nah, if this was the darkest timeline, kawhi would have lost an arm, manu would be in an asylum, tony would speaking through a voice box, mills would be a drunk, bonner would have a blue streak in his hair, tim would have faked his own death, and pop would have an evil black goatee.


yes, i know noone else will get this.

Don't completely discount the Spurstalk community.

[NASpurs]

:lmao You must be young or a new fan to the Spurs. You obviously don't remember the Pre-Tim years when the Utah Jazz bitch slapped the Spurs around every year. When the team's fortunes rested on a backcourt of Lloyd Daniels and Vinny Del Negro.

Nah, the Spurs will be ok. We are all just going to miss the greatness that was Tim Duncan. The guy stayed true to his word and played till the wheels fell off. -- Plural.

It was tongue in cheek, calm down and I've been watching the Spurs since '94. And yes, I remember Del Negro, Lloyd Daniels, Sleepy Floyd, JR Ried, Jack Haley, Negele Knight, Corey Alexander etc.

[snickles]

Best episode of Season 3. :lol

hell, its my fave episode of the series!

[snickles]

:lmaoYou must be young or a new fan to the Spurs.

lol it was a really obscure tv reference



When the team's fortunes rested on a backcourt of Lloyd Daniels and Vinny Del Negro.

i hate to admit this, but that is probably my fave non-championship spurs team. for no real basketball reason....there was just something entertaining about that group. completely miscast and non-cohesive. tarkanian bringing in daniels and making him the starter day 1. a bunch of 1 dimensional guys and fringe players. but for some reason i really enjoyed watching that group.

[Kawhitstorm]

Tim is still under contract. They don't have the space to keep Tim on if Manu is signed with his Bird rights. The only logic way all the reports fit together is if Tim is leave with the team stretching his contract.

Dedmon getting the RE most likely means Tim is retiring.

[SPURt]

http://m.mysanantonio.com/sports/spurs/article/Free-zoo-visits-for-Duncan-if-he-returns-8341820.php

sa zoo pulling out all the stops lol!

[Emperor]

http://m.mysanantonio.com/sports/spurs/article/Free-zoo-visits-for-Duncan-if-he-returns-8341820.php

sa zoo pulling out all the stops lol!

If it was the San Diego Zoo instead then it'd be more worth it

[poeticism707]

:lmao You must be young or a new fan to the Spurs. You obviously don't remember the Pre-Tim years when the Utah Jazz bitch slapped the Spurs around every year. When the team's fortunes rested on a backcourt of Lloyd Daniels and Vinny Del Negro.

Nah, the Spurs will be ok. We are all just going to miss the greatness that was Tim Duncan. The guy stayed true to his word and played till the wheels fell off. -- Plural.

:rollin :rollin :rollin

[Ice009]

So what happens to all the signings if Tim comes back?

[tholdren]

:lmao You must be young or a new fan to the Spurs. You obviously don't remember the Pre-Tim years when the Utah Jazz bitch slapped the Spurs around every year. When the team's fortunes rested on a backcourt of Lloyd Daniels and Vinny Del Negro.

Nah, the Spurs will be ok. We are all just going to miss the greatness that was Tim Duncan. The guy stayed true to his word and played till the wheels fell off. -- Plural.
LOL getting hopes up that Vinny of the Black would be awesome and lead the team to a ring. OR even pre-david...

[GSH]

So what happens to all the signings if Tim comes back?


https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/4f/89/8f/4f898fb3c39ea65b51279bbcd39366d3.jpg

[-21-]

nah, if this was the darkest timeline, kawhi would have lost an arm, manu would be in an asylum, tony would speaking through a voice box, mills would be a drunk, bonner would have a blue streak in his hair, tim would have faked his own death, and pop would have an evil black goatee.


yes, i know noone else will get this.

Cool. Cool, cool, cool.

[Sean Cagney]

:lmao You must be young or a new fan to the Spurs. You obviously don't remember the Pre-Tim years when the Utah Jazz bitch slapped the Spurs around every year. When the team's fortunes rested on a backcourt of Lloyd Daniels and Vinny Del Negro.

Nah, the Spurs will be ok. We are all just going to miss the greatness that was Tim Duncan. The guy stayed true to his word and played till the wheels fell off. -- Plural.

I remember all that shit unfortunately. The year I thought they had it they blew it with HC (1995).

[ElNono]

Just hate Woj broke this news, tbh... this niglet is almost always right

[NASpurs]

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[SAGirl]

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[Boogie Munster]

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:lol

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[RD2191]

Ight Tim, hurry the fudge up.

[Phenomanul]

The one part I don't get... and yes I understand the whole "well, it's not your money" argument... but given the uniqueness of the situation, the inherent gravitas of extending Duncan's playing career further (while still fielding a championship contending team) to just say, "the hell with it" and go into lux tax territory for a season... especially given next season's projected cap boost.

In other words, Duncan's decision should not weigh into the economics for fielding the rest of the team. The FO should manage that separately and if Duncan wants to sign (health permitting) then that contract should be seen as a wholly independent piece... if it takes them over the cap... so be it.

[NikosChelsea7]

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[BillMc]

750437036444692481

They should give a day. No jokes.

[BillMc]

You know during that Clippers series in 2015 it seemed Timmy would never get old. 15 or so months later...:depressed

[spursistan]

the longer this drags on (official announcement) the more i think Tim is actually still undecided and there is still glimmer of hope he might return (for the minimum in this market? it would be so TD)..If he is indeed set on retiring, it should be made official Monday or Tuesday....

[tonight...you]

You know during that Clippers series in 2015 it seemed Timmy would never get old. 15 or so months later...:depressed
And you know all of his being, but his last knee is willing. It was that last good knee that was his Achilles.
Nobody in the NBA could stop Tim Duncan, but his Achilles Knees.

[BillMc]

And you know all of his being, but his last knee is willing. It was that last good knee that was his Achilles.
Nobody in the NBA could stop Tim Duncan, but his Achilles Knees.

Truth.

[BillMc]

the longer this drags on (official announcement) the more i think Tim is actually still undecided and there is still glimmer of hope he might return (for the minimum in this market? it would be so TD)..If he is indeed set on retiring, it should be made official Monday or Tuesday....

I don't think he can return for the min. He opted into his contract for 6 million.

[spursistan]

I don't think he can return for the min. He opted into his contract for 6 million.
oh yeah, completely forgot about that..i'm really puzzled now: why would Tim partake in a recruitment meeting of Durant if he is/was "strongly leaning towards retirement"...this Woj report suddenly came out after we lost the Durant sweepstakes..i don't think TD is the type person that would first look at the general landscape of the league before he does to himself.

[Sean Cagney]

You know during that Clippers series in 2015 it seemed Timmy would never get old. 15 or so months later...:depressed

Tell me about it, that came fast..

[Thomas3]

Tim deserves a better retirement than this. Pau Gasol will be the starting center of the Spurs this year and I hope Tim comes off the bench to play 10-15 minutes. My 2 other idols Ginobili ('77) and a soccer player from Club Bruges, Timmy Simons ('76) continue playing one more year.. . So I hope Tim plays also one more year!

[Chillen]

Well if he plays and it's painful for him than it won't be fun he should retire, but if he can play and not be in pain he should play another NBA season. With the Warriors signing Durant, Spurs actually need him on the roster next season.

[Budkin]

oh yeah, completely forgot about that..i'm really puzzled now: why would Tim partake in a recruitment meeting of Durant if he is/was "strongly leaning towards retirement"...this Woj report suddenly came out after we lost the Durant sweepstakes..i don't think TD is the type person that would first look at the general landscape of the league before he does to himself.

Was he there? I just thought it was PoP, RC, and LMA.

[spurs10]

I'm several thousand miles away from home and suppose it's Sunday mid-afternoon in SA now. i'm thinking we'll hear from Tim in the next 24 hours. Still room for hope...so I will.
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[Ice009]

I'm several thousand miles away from home and suppose it's Sunday mid-afternoon in SA now. i'm thinking we'll hear from Tim in the next 24 hours. Still room for hope...so I will.
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Yep. I definitely want him back. I just hope if his knee is still bothering him, that there is still a chance that it can get better in the next few months (he really hasn't had that much time off since the playoffs), I think he should just hold off a bit more and see if he can be ready by January or something. He doesn't have to be ready for opening night IMO.

[spurs10]

Yep. I definitely want him back. I just hope if his knee is still bothering him, that there is still a chance that it can get better in the next few months (he really hasn't had that much time off since the playoffs), I think he should just hold off a bit more and see if he can be ready by January or something. He doesn't have to be ready for opening night IMO. Well said!

[Kawhitstorm]

Yep. I definitely want him back. I just hope if his knee is still bothering him, that there is still a chance that it can get better in the next few months (he really hasn't had that much time off since the playoffs), I think he should just hold off a bit more and see if he can be ready by January or something. He doesn't have to be ready for opening night IMO.

Manu would have to renegotiate his contract if Tim isn't stretched

[SAGirl]

At this point I think he's only holding up Bertans and LJC from SL and Pau getting his contract. It's just so strange that he's taken this long.

[phxspurfan]

At this point I think he's only holding up Bertans and LJC from SL and Pau getting his contract. It's just so strange that he's taken this long.

He can take as long as he got damn well pleases.

[siraulo23]

He can take as long as he got damn well pleases.

[houston spurs fan]

He's delaying the retirement announcement out of respect of the fallen Dallas law enforcement. Not sure why folks continue to say otherwise

[J_Paco]

He can take as long as he got damn well pleases.

Yeah, you think she would realize that the greatest player in franchise history's decision takes precedence over a pair of rookies and Pau Gasol (eventually) signing. He deserves that much respect at least.

They've already come to an agreement with Gasol and Bertans with Jean Charles being the big question mark. Most people don't believe he's even a NBA caliber talent, anyway.

We'll likely find out sometime today what Timmy decides even if at this point we all know that he's likely gone.

[raybies]

I think he makes his decision tomorrow. That's what I'm expecting at least. Or later today I mean.

[raybies]

Also, Bourousis said he would make his decision in a few days on the 6th and that time has passed, coincidentally as Duncan's timetable has passed. I think Duncan announces retirement then Bourousis comes to terms shortly after.

[SAGirl]

Also, Bourousis said he would make his decision in a few days on the 6th and that time has passed, coincidentally as Duncan's timetable has passed. I think Duncan announces retirement then Bourousis comes to terms shortly after.
Thanks for sharing that. I didn't know that about Bourousis.

Also for those above ^ it's no disrespect. There is still a hope that he's in fact not retiring. It's legit to wonder.

[LakerHater]

Yeah, I think we should all hear something in the morning!

[raybies]

Yeah, I think we should all hear something in the morning!

How do you think the news gets broke. Knowing Timmy's nature he doesn't want any more attention then it needs.

Cable news, Local news, Woj-bomb, Players Tribune, Buck Harvey, or Mike Monroe, the newspaper.

who knows...

[LakerHater]

How do you think the news gets broke. Knowing Timmy's nature he doesn't want any more attention then it needs.

Cable news, Local news, Woj-bomb, Players Tribune, Buck Harvey, or Mike Monroe, the newspaper.

who knows...
Yeah who knows but, I'd say local guys then the local news.

[marinoman]

He prolly told rc and pop by now, just not the public

[ElNono]

damn you woj, damn you :pctoss

[spursistan]

damn you woj, damn you :pctoss

this and that report about Warriors pursuing Durant back in December (as it turned out Raymond and co. were whispering stuff in Durbeta ears)..

Woj is probably most plugged journalist in any field today :lol..