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TheMulletMan3000
07-04-2016, 12:23 PM
https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/750016322629672962

TheMulletMan3000
07-04-2016, 12:24 PM
FUCK FUCK FUCK THIS DAY FUCK

Mugen
07-04-2016, 12:24 PM
750016322629672962

Mouth is Bleeding
07-04-2016, 12:24 PM
:cry:cry:cry:cry:cry

noles1983
07-04-2016, 12:24 PM
well yeah, why come back now? fuck you durant

HarlemHeat37
07-04-2016, 12:25 PM
Can't blame him, tbh..no point in returning with Dominos joining GS..

Mr. Body
07-04-2016, 12:25 PM
Yeah, the league will be a joke this year.

spurs1990
07-04-2016, 12:25 PM
Please tell me that twitter account is suspect with a history of being proven wrong

Joseph Kony
07-04-2016, 12:26 PM
:depressed

Mister Sinister
07-04-2016, 12:26 PM
Welp.

SuperCam
07-04-2016, 12:27 PM
he would have come back if PAFTO had closed out the durbeta recruitment...

Mugen
07-04-2016, 12:27 PM
Two bad knees and almost zero chance to ring next season. Good call, TD. :toast

ElNono
07-04-2016, 12:27 PM
Don't do it Tim... Dominos to GS is more reason to have a justified farewell tour

RD2191
07-04-2016, 12:27 PM
Fuck that, show them youngins how it's done, Timmy.

NASpurs
07-04-2016, 12:27 PM
We're in the darkest timeline.

loveforthegame
07-04-2016, 12:28 PM
Not surprising. Most of us felt he would with the way the season ended.

All the Spurs interest this summer have been big men.

Why would he come back? This team is punting this season anyway.

noles1983
07-04-2016, 12:28 PM
even if timmy wanted a farewell tour and wanted the attention, he wouldn't get it with fucking the dubs show.

Dverde
07-04-2016, 12:29 PM
I think he was going to retire if Gasol picks SA. Gasol needs those minutes and the salary.

Mugen
07-04-2016, 12:30 PM
:lol It'd be very Timmy-like to announce it when the league is buzzing about Durbeta

LongtimeSpursFan
07-04-2016, 12:31 PM
Probably best for Spurs and Duncan.

SanAntonioSpurs23
07-04-2016, 12:32 PM
Fuck :(

davidbowie
07-04-2016, 12:32 PM
worst july 4th ever

-21-
07-04-2016, 12:33 PM
I guess this is it... Hell of a run.

Duncan2177
07-04-2016, 12:33 PM
worst july 4th ever

rmt
07-04-2016, 12:33 PM
:-(

BillMc
07-04-2016, 12:33 PM
:lol It'd be very Timmy-like to announce it when the league is buzzing about Durbeta
True

TheGoldStandard
07-04-2016, 12:34 PM
Writing is on the wall.. Nothing left to prove..

TimDunkem
07-04-2016, 12:34 PM
Good for him. No need to waste your one good leg losing before the conference finals to Golden State.

loveforthegame
07-04-2016, 12:34 PM
Timmy deserves to go out on his terms. He has nothing to prove or owe anyone anything.

It sucks no doubt. The game won't be the same without him.

GOAT. :toast

sammy
07-04-2016, 12:34 PM
Don't go Timmy! One more year!

Diego20
07-04-2016, 12:35 PM
:depressed

cd021
07-04-2016, 12:35 PM
1 more season Tim. :flag:

timtonymanu
07-04-2016, 12:36 PM
GOATimmy. What a fucking career.

houston spurs fan
07-04-2016, 12:36 PM
Wow, worst July 4th ever

-21-
07-04-2016, 12:36 PM
Tim pls :(

Ron Swanson
07-04-2016, 12:37 PM
If this is it for Timmy, thanks for everything. Best PF to ever play the game.

sasaint
07-04-2016, 12:37 PM
:lol It'd be very Timmy-like to announce it when the league is buzzing about Durbeta

SO TRUE! :toast

Shastafarian
07-04-2016, 12:39 PM
Honestly Tim and Manu could both take the first few months of the season off. Then come back in complimentary roles off the bench. But Tim always does his own thing. Won't be the same without him.

davidbowie
07-04-2016, 12:41 PM
manu is already back just come back one more year please. go out together

goddamit this season is gonna fuckin blow

siraulo23
07-04-2016, 12:42 PM
I want duncan to play 1 more year, but its not fun watching him struggle playing on two bad knees

JohnnyMax
07-04-2016, 12:43 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/L9kwXOK00OJGM/giphy.gif

ducks
07-04-2016, 12:43 PM
manu is already back just come back one more year please. go out together

goddamit this season is gonna fuckin blow

manu is back but he wants to be paid big money

BatManu20
07-04-2016, 12:44 PM
Nothing new here. This was always the case. Literally no reason to come back, especially with Durant signing with golden state.

YGWHI
07-04-2016, 12:45 PM
Thanks you for everything, Tim. For being the best PF to ever play the game. For the titles. For the Spurs.

emanueldavidginobili
07-04-2016, 12:46 PM
Thank you so much Tim, if he wants to call it a career so be it. He left it all on the floor God bless the GOAT

TheGreatYacht
07-04-2016, 12:47 PM
Thank you for making this city relevant, Timmy. Sorry that the front office wasted your prime with mediocre talent.

Top 5 player ever :worthy:

MoSpur
07-04-2016, 12:49 PM
Damn it. He threw in the towel once Durant pulled that weak move. Gotta get some youth now

keeferob25
07-04-2016, 12:49 PM
If this is it for Timmy, thanks for everything. Best PF to ever play the game.

You know what...this isn't directed at YOU at all so don't think this is an attack fam, but I've been long at a point where I feel like that's the media's way of disrespecting Duncan. I mean let's be real, the guy was the best PF ever after 2003. Rookie of the year, ring in his second, two repeat MVPs (top 5 finish in each year), all defense/all nba each year, 2-time finals MVP, and his 2003 magnus opus. It was hammered home in 2007 with no one in the discussion. That was TEN YEARS ago and that's all people jump to is the GOAT PF. No one says Jordan is the GOAT SG or Lebron the GOAT SF at this point. Its best ever or top 5. The media and casual dumb fans have always reserved top GOAT talk for perimeter players and hype machines.

Duncan's beyond a point of top 5 inclusion...he's at a point where one needs to argue how he ISN'T a Top 5 player. I just feel that the media and casuals of more popular players jump on the "GOAT PF" as a level of feigned respect so that it acknowledges someone who most respect but all while not ever having to consider he's in Mount Rushmore territory officially but they can reserve that for their favorite over-hyped star (Kobe, Lebron, Bird etc). Again its not a knock on you at all but i just cringe when I hear it now because it has described the BASEMENT of his legacy for over ten years now and not his ceiling and I think its by design from many including the media.

Budkin
07-04-2016, 12:50 PM
What a shitty fucking day.

dabom
07-04-2016, 12:54 PM
Thank you for making this city relevant, Timmy. Sorry that the front office wasted your prime with mediocre talent.

Top 5 player ever :worthy:

playing porker these last 2 years. :lol

dabom
07-04-2016, 12:54 PM
What a shitty fucking day.

daslicer
07-04-2016, 12:55 PM
Damn it. He threw in the towel once Durant pulled that weak move. Gotta get some youth now

Tim is such an ultra competitor I don't believe that was the reason why he retired. This is the same guy who said back during the '01-'02 season he believed the Lakers were not invincible despite getting swept by them a year earlier. I think it came down to both of his knees being messed up that forced his retirement.

soxxx
07-04-2016, 12:55 PM
Just one more year please. Beat these punks.

GSH
07-04-2016, 12:55 PM
Damn it. He threw in the towel once Durant pulled that weak move. Gotta get some youth now


If he was considering putting his body through hell for one more season, if there was a chance to ring, it just shows that he's still a warrior.

We've always said that we wouldn't fully appreciate what we've had until he's gone. Looks like it's time to fully appreciate what we've had. We could start listing all the great memories, and still be posting when the season starts. As much as anything, I'm going to miss watching him hug the basketball before games, and waiting outside the tunnel for all his teammates after every game.

I hope he just takes some time totally away from basketball to enjoy his kids. He's earned it.

TheGreatYacht
07-04-2016, 12:55 PM
playing porker these last 2 years. :lol
Maxing out a role player with braids that can't lead a team in scoring past the first round :lol

dbestpro
07-04-2016, 12:57 PM
I have been expecting him to retire. He will take a look at the team during the all star break, and if it makes sense, he will return to close it out. Makes for great NBA drama.

Timothy21
07-04-2016, 12:59 PM
sad day....

houston spurs fan
07-04-2016, 01:00 PM
You know what...this isn't directed at YOU at all so don't think this is an attack fam, but I've been long at a point where I feel like that's the media's way of disrespecting Duncan. I mean let's be real, the guy was the best PF ever after 2003. Rookie of the year, ring in his second, two repeat MVPs (top 5 finish in each year), all defense/all nba each year, 2-time finals MVP, and his 2003 magnus opus. It was hammered home in 2007 with no one in the discussion. That was TEN YEARS ago and that's all people jump to is the GOAT PF. No one says Jordan is the GOAT SG or Lebron the GOAT SF at this point. Its best ever or top 5. The media and casual dumb fans have always reserved top GOAT talk for perimeter players and hype machines.

Duncan's beyond a point of top 5 inclusion...he's at a point where one needs to argue how he ISN'T a Top 5 player. I just feel that the media and casuals of more popular players jump on the "GOAT PF" as a level of feigned respect so that it acknowledges someone who most respect but all while not ever having to consider he's in Mount Rushmore territory officially but they can reserve that for their favorite over-hyped star (Kobe, Lebron, Bird etc). Again its not a knock on you at all but i just cringe when I hear it now because it has described the BASEMENT of his legacy for over ten years now and not his ceiling and I think its by design from many including the media.
Agree 100%. Playing in SA and not having a "brand"like an AI for example kind of hurts his legacy. I think he'll be somewhat of a fish tale and his legend will grow over time...

CaptainLate
07-04-2016, 01:00 PM
1 more season Tim. :flag: Don't waste your time, Tim. You won't be getting a sixth :lobt: ...oh, and thanks for holding that $5mil hostage. Maybe the Spurs can get Westbrook next FA period. :blah

coachmac87
07-04-2016, 01:01 PM
I saw Tims kids with Amy on Pei Wei 1604/281 yesterday..

I've never got to see Tim in the normal world so it was weird for me to see them and be like damn...

ducks
07-04-2016, 01:02 PM
atleast trade him and then have him retire some team will need the capspace

Pelezinho
07-04-2016, 01:02 PM
Tim doesn't give a shit about attention

CaptainLate
07-04-2016, 01:04 PM
Thank you for making this city relevant, Timmy. Sorry that the front office wasted your prime with mediocre talent LOL, as if the city wouldn't be relevant w/o the Spurs.
See? THAT'S what I'm talking about. Sheep who have no clue what the hell is going on around their pathetic, insignificant lives. See "Landholt for Congress" on Facebook and don't permit your children to be ashamed that you did nothing. #Landholt2016 supports #Texit

cd98
07-04-2016, 01:06 PM
I kind of thought he looked done in the playoffs. Not that he couldn't play anymore, but that he couldn't play to the level he wanted.

CaptainLate
07-04-2016, 01:09 PM
You know what...this isn't directed at YOU at all so don't think this is an attack fam, but I've been long at a point where I feel like that's the media's way of disrespecting Duncan....The media and casual dumb fans have always reserved top GOAT talk for perimeter players and hype machines.

The anti-Christian, racist Media hates humility. They are the Enemy of the People. For details, see "Landholt for Congress" on Facebook.

SilverSpur
07-04-2016, 01:10 PM
Make him a player/coach , rest him first half of season, play second half and playoffs.

lefty
07-04-2016, 01:12 PM
Just fucking retire already, you slow ass piece of shit

Sean Cagney
07-04-2016, 01:12 PM
If this is it for Timmy, thanks for everything. Best PF to ever play the game.

^^^^^ This.

apalisoc_9
07-04-2016, 01:13 PM
Just fucking retire already, you slow ass piece of shit

:lol

Spurs 4 The Win
07-04-2016, 01:15 PM
Tim will come back if we whiff on Gasol, otherwise, he is out

Robz4000
07-04-2016, 01:18 PM
What a shitty fucking day.

Robz4000
07-04-2016, 01:19 PM
Thank you GOAT, may your retirement be joyful and plentiful.

NASpurs
07-04-2016, 01:20 PM
Now he has all the time in the world to make Vanessa walk funny.

Capt Bringdown
07-04-2016, 01:21 PM
Probably what's best for him and for the team.

John B
07-04-2016, 01:22 PM
Timmy is thinking about the team on this decision. He knows the money will be better spent on a young athletic big.

J_Paco
07-04-2016, 01:22 PM
Just fucking retire already, you slow ass piece of shit


:lol

Fuck both you assholes!

Gonna be sad if/when this becomes official. Not ready for the ride to end.......

elemento
07-04-2016, 01:24 PM
He can do whatever the fuck he wants tbh

He transformed the Utah Jazz from Texas into a powerhouse.

spurraider21
07-04-2016, 01:24 PM
One more year pls :cry

Kikoluna
07-04-2016, 01:28 PM
This is it . Bust out the violin , the ship is going down. The era of Kyle is here.

Beaverfuzz
07-04-2016, 01:28 PM
Tim as a 10-15 minute guy would work. Still think he's back for one more year but in a very reduced role.

HarlemHeat37
07-04-2016, 01:29 PM
This is it . Bust out the violin , the ship is going down. The era of Kyle is here.

:lol

Thomas82
07-04-2016, 01:31 PM
You know what...this isn't directed at YOU at all so don't think this is an attack fam, but I've been long at a point where I feel like that's the media's way of disrespecting Duncan. I mean let's be real, the guy was the best PF ever after 2003. Rookie of the year, ring in his second, two repeat MVPs (top 5 finish in each year), all defense/all nba each year, 2-time finals MVP, and his 2003 magnus opus. It was hammered home in 2007 with no one in the discussion. That was TEN YEARS ago and that's all people jump to is the GOAT PF. No one says Jordan is the GOAT SG or Lebron the GOAT SF at this point. Its best ever or top 5. The media and casual dumb fans have always reserved top GOAT talk for perimeter players and hype machines.

Duncan's beyond a point of top 5 inclusion...he's at a point where one needs to argue how he ISN'T a Top 5 player. I just feel that the media and casuals of more popular players jump on the "GOAT PF" as a level of feigned respect so that it acknowledges someone who most respect but all while not ever having to consider he's in Mount Rushmore territory officially but they can reserve that for their favorite over-hyped star (Kobe, Lebron, Bird etc). Again its not a knock on you at all but i just cringe when I hear it now because it has described the BASEMENT of his legacy for over ten years now and not his ceiling and I think its by design from many including the media.

+1

r0drig0lac
07-04-2016, 01:52 PM
Writing is on the wall.. Nothing left to prove..

slick'81
07-04-2016, 01:56 PM
Ugh that is all

poeticism707
07-04-2016, 01:58 PM
Dammit, TD.

Give us one more year.

FUCK GASOL,

HE COULDN'T REPLACE YOU ON

YOUR WORST DAY!!!!

ducks
07-04-2016, 02:00 PM
Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 3m3 minutes ago
If Duncan indeed retires, San Antonio may waive and stretch legendary No. 21, reducing TD's cap hit to $2.1 mil over the next three season



Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 5m5 minutes ago
It remains to be seen, who San Antonio sheds in trade -- or what happens with Tim Duncan -- to create the needed cap space to sign Pau Gasol

Kikoluna
07-04-2016, 02:05 PM
Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 3m3 minutes ago
If Duncan indeed retires, San Antonio may waive and stretch legendary No. 21, reducing TD's cap hit to $2.1 mil over the next three season



Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine 5m5 minutes ago
It remains to be seen, who San Antonio sheds in trade -- or what happens with Tim Duncan -- to create the needed cap space to sign Pau Gasol

So timmy took 5.something million then retired?

Kawhitstorm
07-04-2016, 02:05 PM
he would have come back if PAFTO had closed out the durbeta recruitment...

Dominoes reaction when PATFO told him Porker will be the starting PG:

https://cdn.streamable.com/image/6cgs.jpg

.G.
07-04-2016, 02:08 PM
Boris is gone. Sucks.

Kawhitstorm
07-04-2016, 02:11 PM
Nothing new here. This was always the case. Literally no reason to come back, especially with Durant signing with golden state.

He will retire having never OFFICIALLY lost a regular season home game to the Duds (he was inactive when the Spurs lost at AT&T).:toast

BatManu20
07-04-2016, 02:13 PM
http://i.imgur.com/MsxsV29.gif

Kawhitstorm
07-04-2016, 02:16 PM
atleast trade him and then have him retire some team will need the capspace

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=jb6papj

TVI
07-04-2016, 02:19 PM
I don't get it. With Gasol coming here, why not have Timmy anchor the bench defence for 15 to 20 minutes a game?

Russo21
07-04-2016, 02:20 PM
So it's not official yet?

MB20
07-04-2016, 02:31 PM
:depressed

HI-FI
07-04-2016, 02:36 PM
Don't do it Tim... Dominos to GS is more reason to have a justified farewell tour
This.

With Manu back, might as well have the farewell tour go out in style. Plus low expectations after Durant's bitchass move.

spurs10
07-04-2016, 02:42 PM
Don't do it Tim... Dominos to GS is more reason to have a justified farewell tour


Fuck that, show them youngins how it's done, Timmy.

wildbill2u
07-04-2016, 02:59 PM
I wouldn't have wanted to see him try another year and find out that his body just wouldn't let him play any better than the end of this season. That would be too painful to watch. If he makes this decision it will be because he feels he CAN'T play, not because he doesn't want to play. Thank God we've had him healthy and productive all these years. What a ride it's been.

Spurs Brazil
07-04-2016, 02:59 PM
:(:cry:cry:(

TD 21
07-04-2016, 03:01 PM
You know what...this isn't directed at YOU at all so don't think this is an attack fam, but I've been long at a point where I feel like that's the media's way of disrespecting Duncan. I mean let's be real, the guy was the best PF ever after 2003. Rookie of the year, ring in his second, two repeat MVPs (top 5 finish in each year), all defense/all nba each year, 2-time finals MVP, and his 2003 magnus opus. It was hammered home in 2007 with no one in the discussion. That was TEN YEARS ago and that's all people jump to is the GOAT PF. No one says Jordan is the GOAT SG or Lebron the GOAT SF at this point. Its best ever or top 5. The media and casual dumb fans have always reserved top GOAT talk for perimeter players and hype machines.

Duncan's beyond a point of top 5 inclusion...he's at a point where one needs to argue how he ISN'T a Top 5 player. I just feel that the media and casuals of more popular players jump on the "GOAT PF" as a level of feigned respect so that it acknowledges someone who most respect but all while not ever having to consider he's in Mount Rushmore territory officially but they can reserve that for their favorite over-hyped star (Kobe, Lebron, Bird etc). Again its not a knock on you at all but i just cringe when I hear it now because it has described the BASEMENT of his legacy for over ten years now and not his ceiling and I think its by design from many including the media.

:tu


I don't think the Durant news had anything to do with this because he couldn't really play against them anyway. I think Duncan badly wanted to play another season (maybe more, had his knee held up), but realized he couldn't physically do it anymore and didn't want to play at such a diminished level.

As much as I'd like to see him continue playing, if he couldn't do so at something close to his level before his right knee went, I'd rather see him retire than hobble through a full season.

Sean Cagney
07-04-2016, 03:09 PM
:tu


I don't think the Durant news had anything to do with this because he couldn't really play against them anyway. I think Duncan badly wanted to play another season (maybe more, had his knee held up), but realized he couldn't physically do it anymore and didn't want to play at such a diminished level.

As much as I'd like to see him continue playing, if he couldn't do so at something close to his level before his right knee went, I'd rather see him retire than hobble through a full season.
Yes I agree, greedy fan in me wants Tim back but if he knees are that bad then hang em up, he deserves it and did all he could and needs to retire. Fans get greedy and want more, the guys health is more important now though as he has to have those knees for the rest of his life so good for him if he hangs em up.

tmtcsc
07-04-2016, 03:10 PM
If the $$ is guaranteed and Tim's knee is better, I hope he comes back. The Spurs will need another piece or hope to hell someone on the roster develops.

Sean Cagney
07-04-2016, 03:12 PM
Just fucking retire already, you slow ass piece of shit

How can a Spurs fan say that about Tim...... Seriously?

Nah JK I know you are a Lakers fan Lefty, no Spurs fan would say that.

Kikoluna
07-04-2016, 03:18 PM
http://i.imgur.com/MsxsV29.gif
Lol that sums up today

BillMc
07-04-2016, 03:20 PM
Tim is the only athlete I'd be okay with he pulled a "Favre" and retired and unretired like 5 times...

slick'81
07-04-2016, 03:25 PM
If timmy needs some type of knee scope yeah hes probably done seeing he hates gong under he knife

lefty
07-04-2016, 03:26 PM
Tim was told to GTFO

http://cdn1-www.hoopsvibe.com/assets/uploads/2013/04/file_170891_8_tim-duncan-ball-in-face.gif

UNT Eagles 2016
07-04-2016, 04:40 PM
I don't get it. With Gasol coming here, why not have Timmy anchor the bench defence for 15 to 20 minutes a game?
agree, he's probably our best option at backup C even at age 40.


Otherwise, it's Bye Felicia, time to move on...

benefactor
07-04-2016, 04:44 PM
:depressed


:(:cry:cry:(
:depressed

Spur-Addict
07-04-2016, 04:52 PM
:pctoss :cry

Robz4000
07-04-2016, 05:02 PM
http://badflippy.deviantart.com/art/Lie-down-try-not-to-cry-cry-a-lot-COMBO-351284918

Taking it to the Hole
07-04-2016, 05:05 PM
This is so depressing. This free agency period has just reaffirmed my belief that PATFO don't really care about winning anymore. If Gasol is the best we can get then that is a sad state of affairs. It just seems a waste to do this to one of the top 5 players to play the game. yeah that is right, I am saying TOP 5 bc no other player has done more for their team in recent history then TD. I think that more could have been done, we could have at least tried to build a quality bench and find a serviceable big man to play the C position but nope we chose to draft a point guard who doesn't have a chance in hell of starting in the next two years bc we are stuck with Parker. I don't know if we will be winning any more titles at least for awhile bc we really don't have a team that Tim would be willing to come back to and put his body through another grinding season.

spurs1990
07-04-2016, 05:05 PM
Yes I agree, greedy fan in me wants Tim back but if he knees are that bad then hang em up, he deserves it and did all he could and needs to retire. Fans get greedy and want more, the guys health is more important now though as he has to have those knees for the rest of his life so good for him if he hangs em up.

What precludes the Spurs from giving TD the ultimate pampered deal for the upcoming season.
Specifically allow him to play a fraction of the season - no road games. Coupled with some other night offs during home stands and it'd be 35 games to play.

And then when we really need him in May, he'll have a full tank.

Russ
07-04-2016, 05:09 PM
What precludes the Spurs from giving TD the ultimate pampered deal for the upcoming season.
Specifically allow him to play a fraction of the season - no road games. Coupled with some other night offs during home stands and it'd be 35 games to play.

And then when we really need him in May, he'll have a full tank.

Sounds good to me. :toast

Spurs 4 The Win
07-04-2016, 05:14 PM
What precludes the Spurs from giving TD the ultimate pampered deal for the upcoming season.
Specifically allow him to play a fraction of the season - no road games. Coupled with some other night offs during home stands and it'd be 35 games to play.

And then when we really need him in May, he'll have a full tank.

Tim wouldnt want that unfortunately, he is the only one preventing a scenario like that

Taking it to the Hole
07-04-2016, 05:14 PM
The only other option is we "tank' next season and wait till next summers free agency period and hope that the rest and time off will give Tim another shot at wanting to make a run for one more championship. I think whatever it takes to convince him to stay, the FO should do. He could play in one game next season and rest for 81. I think he has earned that right.

Budkin
07-04-2016, 05:34 PM
So it's not official yet?

Correct, not official.

Spurs 4 The Win
07-04-2016, 05:35 PM
The only other option is we "tank' next season and wait till next summers free agency period and hope that the rest and time off will give Tim another shot at wanting to make a run for one more championship. I think whatever it takes to convince him to stay, the FO should do. He could play in one game next season and rest for 81. I think he has earned that right.

Do you just think of the most illogical scenarios possible and then post them? lol wtf are you talking about dude

spurtech09
07-04-2016, 05:41 PM
One more yr Timmy....

Taking it to the Hole
07-04-2016, 05:45 PM
Do you just think of the most illogical scenarios possible and then post them? lol wtf are you talking about dude

I was just being facetious. Tanking is not illogical especially if it is directed towards a specific outcome but that has never been the Spurs style and the reality is that even with Tim we are not going to top the Warriors next year. It is just bothersome to see a guy in his 40s playing his ass off in the last game of his career for a losing cause. I think he deserves more than that and if their is a way to say to Tim that you decide how any games you play this next season, then it should be given to him. I think he hates losing which is why I am hopeful he will come back but without Tim, we are screwed this next year.

kobyz
07-04-2016, 05:50 PM
How i wish he would have done this two years ago, and not going that crap last two seasons...

Sean Cagney
07-04-2016, 05:54 PM
What precludes the Spurs from giving TD the ultimate pampered deal for the upcoming season.
Specifically allow him to play a fraction of the season - no road games. Coupled with some other night offs during home stands and it'd be 35 games to play.

And then when we really need him in May, he'll have a full tank.

With Tim I feel it's all in or not, he won't go for it IMO. Would be nice.
How i wish he would have done this two years ago, and not going that crap last two seasons...

Yep, because they base their lives and careers around what you want.. SMH.

Spurs 4 The Win
07-04-2016, 06:08 PM
I was just being facetious. Tanking is not illogical especially if it is directed towards a specific outcome but that has never been the Spurs style and the reality is that even with Tim we are not going to top the Warriors next year. It is just bothersome to see a guy in his 40s playing his ass off in the last game of his career for a losing cause. I think he deserves more than that and if their is a way to say to Tim that you decide how any games you play this next season, then it should be given to him. I think he hates losing which is why I am hopeful he will come back but without Tim, we are screwed this next year.

I feel what you are saying here. I wish he would do that but thats not his MO. He is an all in or not at all kinda guy. Also, I think we can beat the Warriors, if you are arguably the 2nd best team in the league and a lock to be the 2nd team in the West, you dont tank. You go for it because this is the NBA and anything can happen. I vividly remember when several of these superteams formed and didnt pan out (2004 Lakers, 2009 Celtics due to injury, 2011 Heat, 2012 Lakers :lol , and the 2015 Cavs due to injury). Things can and do happen to these teams and you need to be ready to step up if they falter. We cant be the prohibitive favorites every year but I am satisfied with where our team stands in a league of 32. Tanking talk is pussy shit.

SAGirl
07-04-2016, 06:08 PM
Tim is such an ultra competitor I don't believe that was the reason why he retired. This is the same guy who said back during the '01-'02 season he believed the Lakers were not invincible despite getting swept by them a year earlier. I think it came down to both of his knees being messed up that forced his retirement.
^^^This.
Has nothing to do with anybody but how he himself feels physically. He would play until he couldn't anymore and he reached that point. The aspect we don't know about is the real physical state of the knees. Much as he wanted to, he has to consider that he wasn't going to be as good as he'd been and that the new normal was maybe what we saw due to knee soreness. It wasn't ever reported as an injury just "soreness". So he felt it was time. Much respect to him for knowing his body and his health and when it was time.

I hope to see him in some coaching capacity but maybe that's selfish desire.

kobyz
07-04-2016, 06:09 PM
With Tim I feel it's all in or not, he won't go for it IMO. Would be nice.

Yep, because they base their lives and careers around what you want.. SMH.

So you wouldn't prefer to save him from the last two season and all that crap? Why it's hard for you to stay real for yourself and telling the true?? SMH...

Spurs 4 The Win
07-04-2016, 06:10 PM
So you wouldn't prefer to save him from the last two season and all that crap? Why it's hard for you to stay real for yourself and telling the true?? SMH...

Tim had fun and made great memories. Its his life, let him live it. You dont have to retire on top, it very rarely happens.

AaronY
07-04-2016, 09:18 PM
Fucking depressing shit..

myhc
07-04-2016, 09:20 PM
Damn. He's going to enter the HOF with Kobe.

cutewizard
07-04-2016, 09:20 PM
Timmy, thank you for all the years of basketball excellence!

cutewizard
07-04-2016, 09:21 PM
Duncan ruleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssss sssssssssssssssssssss

DUNCAN WILL ALWAYS BE OUR NUMBER ONE!

Spurs 4 The Win
07-04-2016, 09:25 PM
Damn. He's going to enter the HOF with Kobe.

The only thing that bothers me lol

lefty20
07-04-2016, 09:38 PM
Damn. He's going to enter the HOF with Kobe.

Yeah, this irks me as well. Really hope he comes back, that way Timmy and Manu can enter the HoF together.

kobyz
07-04-2016, 09:57 PM
Tim had fun and made great memories. Its his life, let him live it. You dont have to retire on top, it very rarely happens.

Stop pretending with that vanilla shit, lol had fun great memories, you sound like a fagg... Timmy would have die to erase the humiliating last season from his career and to save so pathetic and underachiever last two season, when pop and the team wasted him and his health for nothing being so soft and naive trying to compete...

dbreiden83080
07-04-2016, 10:22 PM
Damn. He's going to enter the HOF with Kobe.

Fitting. Lots of respect there and great rivals..

Mr. Body
07-04-2016, 10:28 PM
Dirk should retire, too. All three of them at once.

Ron Swanson
07-04-2016, 10:29 PM
NBATV just had a nice segment on Timmy.

Now back to your regularly scheduled GS knob-slobbing lovefest.

daslicer
07-04-2016, 10:34 PM
NBATV just had a nice segment on Timmy.

Now back to your regularly scheduled GS knob-slobbing lovefest.

Just saw it. They mentioned a fact that I didn't know about Duncan which was he has the most all-nba defensive team selections in NBA history.

Ron Swanson
07-04-2016, 10:36 PM
Just saw it. They mentioned a fact that I didn't know about Duncan which was he has the most all-nba defensive team selections in NBA history.

I didn't know that, either. Pretty damn impressive.

Spurs_Be_Beastin'
07-04-2016, 10:43 PM
NBATV just had a nice segment on Timmy.

Now back to your regularly scheduled GS knob-slobbing lovefest.


Saw that also. Nice look back at his career and achievements. Almost brought some tears out tbh.
Im 24 years old so I've watched and rooted for this man basically my entire life. He's a legend, a GOAT , he deserves respect and praise from ALL basketball fans tbh.

Spur|n|Austin
07-04-2016, 10:44 PM
The only thing that bothers me lol

why?

Marcus Bryant
07-04-2016, 10:45 PM
Everything after '00 was gravy. Any kind of normal superstar would've bolted when he had the chance.

Biased? I am, but definitely top ten, if not top five all-time. Had he played for the Celtics, Lakers, or Knicks there'd be a movement to rename the game after him.

Ice009
07-04-2016, 10:47 PM
Fuck it, see if Kobe wants to hold off retirement for one more year and have a shot at the Warriors with both TD and himself off the bench.

daslicer
07-04-2016, 10:48 PM
Everything after '00 was gravy. Any kind of normal superstar would've bolted when he had the chance.

Biased? I am, but definitely top ten, if not top five all-time. Had he played for the Celtics, Lakers, or Knicks there'd be a movement to rename the game after him.

In my eyes they are only two players who had better careers than him which is Jordan and Jabbar.

Spurs 4 The Win
07-04-2016, 10:51 PM
why?

Because now they will get inducted in the same year and it will be the Kobe circus on induction night and Duncan will be a footnote. Duncan had a better career and deserves an entire night without that attention whore rapist fucking it up.

Ice009
07-04-2016, 10:52 PM
Everything after '00 was gravy. Any kind of normal superstar would've bolted when he had the chance.

Biased? I am, but definitely top ten, if not top five all-time. Had he played for the Celtics, Lakers, or Knicks there'd be a movement to rename the game after him.

As I've said before, I think Tim got himself into the top 5 in 2013 as he would have been the finals MVP had his teammates not choked it away for him while he had to sit on the bench and watch it. 2014, he made sure he was no doubt that he's in the top 5, and then in 2015 going against two super athletic bigs and being the Spurs' best player made sure he stays there. Most fans of other teams probably won't agree though, and that pisses me off as TD was that good.

I wanted to try and get one more Championship for him so that it would be more universally recognized by fans of other teams that he was a top 5 player. I didn't care about winning a 6th for myself as a fan or the Spurs organization, I wanted it for Tim so that more fans could recognize just how great he was. It was all for Tim. Actually the last two I just wanted for Tim, and really, really wanted to try and get one more so that he got the universal respect that he deserved.

cd98
07-04-2016, 10:54 PM
Tim turned down the original "staked" team to stay with the Spurs.

J_Paco
07-04-2016, 10:56 PM
Stop pretending with that vanilla shit, lol had fun great memories, you sound like a fagg... Timmy would have die to erase the humiliating last season from his career and to save so pathetic and underachiever last two season, when pop and the team wasted him and his health for nothing being so soft and naive trying to compete...

Shut the fuck up, man.

The guy helped the team win 5 championships, which is more than the 0 they had before he arrived, so if wanted to continue to play (win or lose) that's his choice.

Keepin' it real
07-04-2016, 10:57 PM
Tim's stats are way too pedestrian for him to be in top 5 all time.

19 ppg
11 rebounds
3 assists
2 blocks

In a few years, people won't even have him in their Top 10s.

J_Paco
07-04-2016, 10:59 PM
Because now they will get inducted in the same year and it will be the Kobe circus on induction night and Duncan will be a footnote. Duncan had a better career and deserves an entire night without that attention whore rapist fucking it up.

Duncan doesn't care about any of the celebrity worshiping stuff. He'll give a brief speech, say "thank you" and be out.

Leave all the pomp and circumstance for the other guys.

J_Paco
07-04-2016, 11:02 PM
Ignore this post. Double posted and can't find the delete option....

Ice009
07-04-2016, 11:08 PM
Tim's stats are way too pedestrian for him to be in top 5 all time.

19 ppg
11 rebounds
3 assists
2 blocks

In a few years, people won't even have him in their Top 10s.

Fuck you. This should never be coming from any true Spurs fan or TD fan.

Emperor
07-04-2016, 11:10 PM
Tim's stats are way too pedestrian for him to be in top 5 all time.

19 ppg
11 rebounds
3 assists
2 blocks

In a few years, people won't even have him in their Top 10s.

This is when "Keepin' it real" goes wrong.

RD2191
07-04-2016, 11:10 PM
Tim's stats are way too pedestrian for him to be in top 5 all time.

19 ppg
11 rebounds
3 assists
2 blocks

In a few years, people won't even have him in their Top 10s.

Stfu cocksucker.

J_Paco
07-04-2016, 11:12 PM
Tim's stats are way too pedestrian for him to be in top 5 all time.

19 ppg
11 rebounds
3 assists
2 blocks

In a few years, people won't even have him in their Top 10s.

Dumb ass, there is something called "pace" that greatly effected TD's numbers. Plus, the added fact that he played a secondary role on offense in the latter stage of his career.

All of his accomplishments and career totals - which you seem to gloss over - put him in the company of only a few all-time greats.

Ron Swanson
07-04-2016, 11:12 PM
Tim's stats are way too pedestrian for him to be in top 5 all time.

19 ppg
11 rebounds
3 assists
2 blocks

In a few years, people won't even have him in their Top 10s.

https://66.media.tumblr.com/9fe02a1b30bd131cde2cbab52cec077d/tumblr_nahh7dl6mX1twe13wo1_500.gif

Spur|n|Austin
07-04-2016, 11:15 PM
Tim's stats are way too pedestrian for him to be in top 5 all time.

19 ppg
11 rebounds
3 assists
2 blocks

In a few years, people won't even have him in their Top 10s.

You should change your name to Keepin' it wrong; have you been under a rock the past 20 years?

Marcus Bryant
07-04-2016, 11:16 PM
Fuck you. This should never be coming from any true Spurs fan or TD fan.

:tu

Obstructed_View
07-04-2016, 11:20 PM
http://i.makeagif.com/media/8-25-2014/fWx327.gif

SpurPadre
07-04-2016, 11:23 PM
http://i.makeagif.com/media/8-25-2014/fWx327.gif

Should've saved that for Bonner

Obstructed_View
07-04-2016, 11:27 PM
Should've saved that for Bonner

'Bye Felicia' is for Kobe, for sure.

Bonner's departure will probably have the hallelujah chorus.

This one seemed oddly Duncanesque. If he could retire without having to fucking talk about it or see his face on TV you know that's what he'd do. I know 100 percent that he'd laugh if he saw my post.

SpurPadre
07-04-2016, 11:30 PM
'Bye Felicia' is for Kobe, for sure.

Bonner's departure will probably have the hallelujah chorus.

This one seemed oddly Duncanesque. If he could retire without having to fucking talk about it or see his face on TV you know that's what he'd do. I know 100 percent that he'd laugh if he saw my post.

Good points. We all have to give Bonner a proper send-off, though.

Obstructed_View
07-04-2016, 11:39 PM
Good points. We all have to give Bonner a proper send-off, though.

He has to leave first, tbh.

SpurPadre
07-04-2016, 11:43 PM
He has to leave first, tbh.

I've made the mistake of not expecting him to ever leave and then they go and re-up him. My new strategy is to will it to happen, tbh.

Obstructed_View
07-04-2016, 11:45 PM
I've made the mistake of not expecting him to ever leave and then they go and re-up him. My new strategy is to will it to happen, tbh.

I've been praying to Satan to make Bonner go away for like seven years now. That nigga will be dancing on my grave in a Spurs' jersey.

SequSpur
07-04-2016, 11:59 PM
Goodbye Tim. Thanks for all the great years. It will never be the same. You brought our standards so high. All of this shit is not important. Dusty is still a tool. Ducks is still handicapped. Sequ is still ballin like a mofoka. Timmay is the best. I can't imagine what things will be like with out you bro...

SequSpur
07-04-2016, 11:59 PM
I've been praying to Satan to make Bonner go away for like seven years now. That nigga will be dancing on my grave in a Spurs' jersey.

I will not be a spurs fan any longer if he plays one more season.

Obstructed_View
07-05-2016, 12:19 AM
I will not be a spurs fan any longer if he plays one more season.

Then I'm really hoping the Spurs sign him up tomorrow.

kaji157
07-05-2016, 12:30 AM
I, for now, dont believe these reports. I know Woj is as legit as you can get in todays nba scopes, but i believe Tim will come back for one more year.

lilbthebasedgod
07-05-2016, 01:03 AM
Fuck you. This should never be coming from any true Spurs fan or TD fan.
Your perceptions should match reality.

I think its clear Duncan is top 10. But nowhere near top 5 on any objective level.

kobyz
07-05-2016, 03:27 AM
Shut the fuck up, man.

The guy helped the team win 5 championships, which is more than the 0 they had before he arrived, so if wanted to continue to play (win or lose) that's his choice.

A choice that he's heavily regret...

007nites
07-05-2016, 04:02 AM
Because now they will get inducted in the same year and it will be the Kobe circus on induction night and Duncan will be a footnote. Duncan had a better career and deserves an entire night without that attention whore rapist fucking it up.

True

TheMulletMan3000
07-05-2016, 04:06 AM
This is when "Keepin' it real" goes wrong.

:lol

Thomas82
07-05-2016, 04:07 AM
Just saw it. They mentioned a fact that I didn't know about Duncan which was he has the most all-nba defensive team selections in NBA history.

He's the only player in NBA history with 15 All-Star selections, 15 All-NBA selections, and 15 All-Defensive Team selections.

Robz4000
07-05-2016, 04:13 AM
Tim's stats are way too pedestrian for him to be in top 5 all time.

19 ppg
11 rebounds
3 assists
2 blocks

In a few years, people won't even have him in their Top 10s.

7/10

cd021
07-05-2016, 05:30 AM
This is when "Keepin' it real" goes wrong.

:tu :lol "Wu-Tang!"

Duncanforthree
07-05-2016, 05:31 AM
:rollin:rollin
I've been praying to Satan to make Bonner go away for like seven years now. That nigga will be dancing on my grave in a Spurs' jersey.

:rollin

BillMc
07-05-2016, 06:33 AM
On the small chance Timmy comes back, who starts him or Pau?

BillMc
07-05-2016, 06:57 AM
Your perceptions should match reality.

I think its clear Duncan is top 10. But nowhere near top 5 on any objective level.

My Top Fifteen:

1. Jordan
2. Kareem
3. Russell
4. Wilt
5. Duncan
6. Magic
7. LeBron
8. Shaq
9. Oscar
10. Bird
11. West
12. Hakeem
13. Kobe
14. Moses
15. Dr. J (if you include the ABA days).

Chillen
07-05-2016, 07:02 AM
He didn't look done vs OKC, I think he has another season in him. I just think he is probably sick of the NBA grind after almost 2 decades of it and just wants to do other things for a change. I hope he plays next season and doesn't hang up the jersey.

emanueldavidginobili
07-05-2016, 07:30 AM
I feel like there's a 90% chance Tim is retiring, he is definetly not playing two more years and if he decides to come back it will be like the farewell tour that he has been trying to avoid.

Jdspur20
07-05-2016, 07:42 AM
If he's retiring, why hasn't he said it yet? Why wait at this point?

SpursFan86
07-05-2016, 07:50 AM
If he's retiring, why hasn't he said it yet? Why wait at this point?

Because he's not completely sure yet? Once he says he's retiring, there's no going back (well there is, but Tim doesn't seem like the type to announce he's retiring and then go back on it). He wants to make sure he's 100% sure he's finished with basketball before announcing anything.

Big Empty
07-05-2016, 08:01 AM
On the small chance Timmy comes back, who starts him or Pau?im thinking this is what has him thinking retirement. He would have to come off the bench

Jdspur20
07-05-2016, 08:17 AM
Because he's not completely sure yet? Once he says he's retiring, there's no going back (well there is, but Tim doesn't seem like the type to announce he's retiring and then go back on it). He wants to make sure he's 100% sure he's finished with basketball before announcing anything.

I understand he's probably not sure yet, it just seems that maybe the Spurs have another plan that he's already aware of Which is why we haven't heard it yet? Pure speculation on my part. Since June 29th, it just seems that he would know by now. However, Tim can do whatever he wants.

sasaint
07-05-2016, 08:20 AM
My Top Fifteen:

1. Jordan
2. Kareem
3. Russell
4. Wilt
5. Duncan
6. Magic
7. LeBron
8. Shaq
9. Oscar
10. Bird
11. West
12. Hakeem
13. Kobe
14. Moses
15. Dr. J (if you include the ABA days).

Well conceived. Once I see all of those unbelievable players' names in a a list, I start to shrink away from the task of listing the all-timers. I think I like both Oscar and Lebron more and Shaq less than you. I think DAvid Robinson might make my list over Moses Malone... Seeing the list also begs the question of criteria. Longevity and career stats are determinative of "greatest" in almost all lists. There are some guys who, for one reason or another (mostly injury), did not enjoy long NBA careers but were, nonetheless, great. No real way to come up with a list that would acknowledge some greats. Names like Arvydas Sabonis and Connie Hawkins come to mind. Personally, I will always think of Spencer Haywood as a "great". His performance in the 1960 Olympics was spectacular. He came out of nowhere and really captivated me (and many others). His story alone causes me to be pretty indifferent about Professional Olympic basketball as it has become. He played for a mediocre Seattle team when communications were not what they are today and the greatness of his younger days is pretty much unknown. Pete Maravich was Steph Curry before the 3-ball was adopted by the NBA. There are some guys like that who had talent that would place them among the greats - just not the career stats to earn that level of acknowledgment. An All-time Imaginary Playground list would be highly subjective, but lots of fun.

Well done. :toast

gambit1990
07-05-2016, 12:14 PM
he's not hanging it up yet.

-21-
07-05-2016, 12:22 PM
On the small chance Timmy comes back, who starts him or Pau?

Pau starts. Tim becomes the backup center.

024
07-05-2016, 12:27 PM
If Duncan comes back, he'll have a role off the bench. Don't think Gasol would have signed here unless Pop promised him the starting spot.

Honestly if the corpse of Kevin Garnett is still in the league, Duncan can still make an impact.

-21-
07-05-2016, 12:36 PM
My Top Fifteen:

1. Jordan
2. Kareem
3. Russell
4. Wilt
5. Duncan
6. Magic
7. LeBron
8. Shaq
9. Oscar
10. Bird
11. West
12. Hakeem
13. Kobe
14. Moses
15. Dr. J (if you include the ABA days).

Mine:

1. Jordan
2. LeBron
3. Kareem
4. Magic
5. Bird
6. Hakeem
7. Duncan
8. Shaq
9. Russell
10. Wilt
11. Oscar
12. Kobe
13. West
14. Dr. J
15. Moses

$pursDynasty
07-05-2016, 12:40 PM
im thinking this is what has him thinking retirement. He would have to come off the bench
actually despite the difference in salaries, I would have Pau off the bench, because our bench will definitely need scoring if Bobo is traded. The starting 5 might have enough points but we need a dependable scorer off the bench. TD, KL and Verde's defense to go with LMA, KL and TP's offense.

$pursDynasty
07-05-2016, 12:43 PM
As for top 15 there seems to be a consensus on the players just not the order. For me Kareem is #1 and I always lean Wilt over Russell otherwise both lists look golden.

Obstructed_View
07-05-2016, 01:16 PM
If he's retiring, why hasn't he said it yet? Why wait at this point?

Doing so while Kevin Durant is the story would be a dick move, like Phil Jackson making an announcement during the Spurs parade. It's bad enough that he has to make a press release, but he's not going to step on someone else's toes to do it.

sasaint
07-05-2016, 01:20 PM
actually despite the difference in salaries, I would have Pau off the bench, because our bench will definitely need scoring if Bobo is traded. The starting 5 might have enough points but we need a dependable scorer off the bench. TD, KL and Verde's defense to go with LMA, KL and TP's offense.

Pau didn't come to the Spurs to come off the bench.

LakerHater
07-05-2016, 01:22 PM
I heard he jus announced his retirement!

BillMc
07-05-2016, 01:24 PM
Well conceived. Once I see all of those unbelievable players' names in a a list, I start to shrink away from the task of listing the all-timers. I think I like both Oscar and Lebron more and Shaq less than you. I think DAvid Robinson might make my list over Moses Malone... Seeing the list also begs the question of criteria. Longevity and career stats are determinative of "greatest" in almost all lists. There are some guys who, for one reason or another (mostly injury), did not enjoy long NBA careers but were, nonetheless, great. No real way to come up with a list that would acknowledge some greats. Names like Arvydas Sabonis and Connie Hawkins come to mind. Personally, I will always think of Spencer Haywood as a "great". His performance in the 1960 Olympics was spectacular. He came out of nowhere and really captivated me (and many others). His story alone causes me to be pretty indifferent about Professional Olympic basketball as it has become. He played for a mediocre Seattle team when communications were not what they are today and the greatness of his younger days is pretty much unknown. Pete Maravich was Steph Curry before the 3-ball was adopted by the NBA. There are some guys like that who had talent that would place them among the greats - just not the career stats to earn that level of acknowledgment. An All-time Imaginary Playground list would be highly subjective, but lots of fun.

Well done. :toast

Thanks man!:bobo (using the Bobo emocon while I can. :lol)

BillMc
07-05-2016, 01:25 PM
I heard he jus announced his retirement!

Where did you hear it?

GSH
07-05-2016, 01:27 PM
I heard he jus announced his retirement!

Where?

cd98
07-05-2016, 01:28 PM
Tim's stats are way too pedestrian for him to be in top 5 all time.

19 ppg
11 rebounds
3 assists
2 blocks

In a few years, people won't even have him in their Top 10s.

Pop cut short his minutes to extend his career. If another coach had played him into the ground, he'd have retired at 36 averaging 20+ points on his career and 12+ rebounds, and one less title.

Tully365
07-05-2016, 01:30 PM
I don't see it anywhere...

Chinook
07-05-2016, 01:32 PM
I heard he jus announced his retirement!

Who is retiring?

Tully365
07-05-2016, 01:34 PM
Woj is generally reliable, but how would he get access to the famously stoical Duncan?... Duncan's coach & former wife have said they often didn't know what he was thinking... I find it hard to believe this is anything more than speculation.

Drom John
07-05-2016, 01:34 PM
Tim starts so that his knees are warm when he goes in.
Pau plays the bulk of the minutes.

BillMc
07-05-2016, 01:35 PM
I don't see it anywhere...

Me neither. Maybe we've been trolled.

Ice009
07-05-2016, 01:37 PM
I heard he jus announced his retirement!

Sounds like bullshit, otherwise you would have followed it up pretty quickly with another post.

SpursFan86
07-05-2016, 01:40 PM
Woj is generally reliable, but how would he get access to the famously stoical Duncan?... Duncan's coach & former wife have said they often didn't know what he was thinking... I find it hard to believe this is anything more than speculation.

Tim likely gave the Spurs a heads up so they could start preparing to build a roster under the assumption he's not returning. Woj probably got a hold of that news somehow.

GSH
07-05-2016, 01:51 PM
If he's retiring, why hasn't he said it yet? Why wait at this point?


Mentioned this in the "offseason" thread, but I'm wondering if the Spurs are requesting a Disabled Player's Exception for him. If they're not, maybe they should be. His injuries are basketball related. I think there's a good case to be made that it's unlikely that he could play out the season. In fact, there's a case to be made that he couldn't really play out last season, after that injury in December. He was on the court, but not himself. If he was in enough pain, I would think a doctor would certify that.

I don't know if that's what they are doing, but it would make sense that they plow ahead like he intends to play, but isn't healthy enough. An exception would let them pick up a player for up to 50% pf jos salary plus $100K. It's not a lot, but it could make a big difference, as tight as they are right now.

lefty
07-05-2016, 01:52 PM
Who is retiring?
Parker

Tully365
07-05-2016, 01:56 PM
I still think the best case scenario for Duncan is "retirement" now, and a post all star game return. He was still an elite defender in the first half of last season but wore down as the season progressed. He can spend Nov/Dec/Jan staying in shape by swimming & other low impact exercise and make his final run in the last 4 months of 2017.

davidbowie
07-05-2016, 01:59 PM
he's coming back one more year

you heard it here first!!!1

SpursforSix
07-05-2016, 02:16 PM
Parker

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/dwight-schrute-celebration-jump.gif

Sean Cagney
07-05-2016, 02:25 PM
he's coming back one more year

you heard it here first!!!1

LOL esp? Seriously though it's a 50/50 shot so if you are right you can say I told you so and then up this post to prove you were right :) Nobody has a clue at this point though I am guessing but Tim himself, hope he does and hope you are right and he finds another year in him but the 2nd half of last year looked bleak.
http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/dwight-schrute-celebration-jump.gif

If that did happen though who do we have? Mills? Ehhhhhhhh that would not be any better.

I suppose Murray but the guy is only 19 years old right now.

SpursforSix
07-05-2016, 02:30 PM
If that did happen though who do we have? Mills? Ehhhhhhhh that would not be any better.

I suppose Murray but the guy is only 19 years old right now.

Definitely don't want to see Mills as the PG much. If Parker retired, wouldn't that free up $15,000,000? Was thinking they could add a damn good piece or two for that.

lefty
07-05-2016, 02:32 PM
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BillMc
07-05-2016, 02:36 PM
If Tim DID return and come off the bench what an example that would show. No way on of our players who even have a bit of Diva in them (LMA, Pau, maybe Tony) could ever complain with the greatest PF ever continuing to sacrifice for the team. It would be great for the locker room, tbh.

GSH
07-05-2016, 02:38 PM
Definitely don't want to see Mills as the PG much. If Parker retired, wouldn't that free up $15,000,000? Was thinking they could add a damn good piece or two for that.


Just curious how you think anyone could persuade Tony to retire right now? Threaten to expose him for sleeping with a teammate's wife? Tony has around $30 million coming in the next two seasons, as long as he shows up for work. Thirty.million.bucks.

You guys keep talking about this like some little French guys is going to say, "It's the plane, Boss", and all your wishes are going to come true. The chance of Tony spontaneously retiring is zero. Less than zero. It really doesn't matter how much cap room it could clear up. It can't happen.

BillMc
07-05-2016, 02:43 PM
Video where one ESPN guy (can't think of his name) wants TD back. Good to hear something nice (for once) from BSPN. He also think we'd have a shot against Dubs.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:16791392

SpursforSix
07-05-2016, 02:43 PM
Just curious how you think anyone could persuade Tony to retire right now? Threaten to expose him for sleeping with a teammate's wife? Tony has around $30 million coming in the next two seasons, as long as he shows up for work. Thirty.million.bucks.

You guys keep talking about this like some little French guys is going to say, "It's the plane, Boss", and all your wishes are going to come true. The chance of Tony spontaneously retire is zero. Less than zero. It really doesn't matter how much cap room it could clear up. It can't happen.

Fuck no he's not going to retire. No one seriously thinks that's a possibility.

BillMc
07-05-2016, 02:46 PM
Timmy has to make his decision (even if he doesn't make it public) by the 7th when the contracts start being signed. Spurs have to know (if they don't already). When the public knows is anybody's guess.

Oh, Gee!!
07-05-2016, 04:26 PM
I heard he's going to GSW

spurs1990
07-05-2016, 04:29 PM
Selfishly I want to see one more year just so I can at least travel to SA & see the man play in the ATT center.

Plus it would be glorious to see the crowd serenade him in his last home game.

Even DRob didn't get a sendoff (for the best reason possible).

Keepin' it real
07-05-2016, 04:32 PM
Selfishly I want to see one more year just so I can at least travel to SA & see the man play in the ATT center.

Nah, Pop will pull a DNP-CD. Save your time and money.

Sean Cagney
07-05-2016, 09:57 PM
Definitely don't want to see Mills as the PG much. If Parker retired, wouldn't that free up $15,000,000? Was thinking they could add a damn good piece or two for that.

It would I guess but he is not going to retire so it's just pointless talking it lol, he is here for the contract. They could add a piece for that, damn good though in this market and day and age? Bums are getting 12 mill so you might have to pay around 20 mill for a damn good player.

Obstructed_View
07-05-2016, 10:08 PM
If he retires, does that prevent the Spurs from signing him in February?

Ice009
07-05-2016, 10:23 PM
Screw it, it's time for me to start begging. I really, really want you to come back Tim. Please, please come back for one more year. lol, who am I kidding, I'd want him back for more than one more year, but I'll be happy with one more year at this point. Hopefully that good knee is OK and it can heal during this off-season, and it just comes down to a decision of the mental grind of the season. Please come back, Tim.

TrainOfThought5
07-06-2016, 01:10 AM
Tim is such an ultra competitor I don't believe that was the reason why he retired. This is the same guy who said back during the '01-'02 season he believed the Lakers were not invincible despite getting swept by them a year earlier. I think it came down to both of his knees being messed up that forced his retirement.

Yeah. That last knee finally gave out. Reminds me of my '99 Buick. Rock steady for 15 years. Then good but iffy for 2 more.

-21-
07-06-2016, 11:04 AM
The wait is killing me...

BillMc
07-06-2016, 11:21 AM
The wait is killing me...

Yep. It really should come out today given the moratorium is about to end.

Chinook
07-06-2016, 11:22 AM
If he retires, does that prevent the Spurs from signing him in February?

Sorta. Depends on how the team handles it. We should know by tomorrow evening.

GSH
07-06-2016, 11:32 AM
Sorta. Depends on how the team handles it. We should know by tomorrow evening.


Murray says he is definitely playing tomorrow night. I think that must mean that they have told him that his contract will be finalized by then. I'm guessing that the team knows what Tim is doing, and they are just waiting for dominos to get lined up, before they knock them over in order. I'm still thinking they may have sent people to work out a deal with Bourosis.

BillMc
07-06-2016, 11:35 AM
Murray says he is definitely playing tomorrow night. I think that must mean that they have told him that his contract will be finalized by then. I'm guessing that the team knows what Tim is doing, and they are just waiting for dominos to get lined up, before they knock them over in order. I'm still thinking they may have sent people to work out a deal with Bourosis.

Hope you're right.

Chinook
07-06-2016, 11:36 AM
Murray says he is definitely playing tomorrow night. I think that must mean that they have told him that his contract will be finalized by then. I'm guessing that the team knows what Tim is doing, and they are just waiting for dominos to get lined up, before they knock them over in order. I'm still thinking they may have sent people to work out a deal with Bourosis.

Indeed. I'm expecting the roster to be 90-percent done by then. Only LJC, Manu's signings and the room-exception signing can occur after Murray signs (well that, and Arcidiacono's and potentially Forbes' signings).

Spur|n|Austin
07-06-2016, 11:38 AM
Hope you're right.

I would hope for the same, though I'm concerned of the crowded position now. It almost assure's Tim is done and Boban is taking an offer elsewhere, no?

BillMc
07-06-2016, 11:41 AM
I would hope for the same, though I'm concerned of the crowded position now. It almost assure's Tim is done and Boban is taking an offer elsewhere, no?

As much as we all like Boban, if we can get a better player for equal or less money, it might be a sacrifice we'll have to make.

As far as Timmy, I'm not hopeful of a return. Pray I'm wrong.:depressed

Chinook
07-06-2016, 11:47 AM
I would hope for the same, though I'm concerned of the crowded position now. It almost assure's Tim is done and Boban is taking an offer elsewhere, no?

The team can keep Boban indefinitely so long as they don't re-sign Manu or use the room exception. His cap hold plus the QO is enough to secure full right of first refusal. But if Manu takes more than the room exception, then the Spurs are vulnerable to losing him.

However, I'm starting to wonder if the market has actually dried up. He's not the only center on the market without a big contract. Maybe it's possible to have him sign a one-and-one at the room exception so he can test the market after having a chance to be a stable rotation player and when teams have cap space again.

DPG21920
07-06-2016, 01:18 PM
Why do people want Bourosis?

DPG21920
07-06-2016, 01:27 PM
^Sorry was thinking of Lorbek who is way more questionable.

Keepin' it real
07-06-2016, 01:27 PM
Why do people want Bourosis?

Fear the beard 2.0

http://www.elcorreo.com/noticias/201510/01/media/cortadas/bourousis-baskonia--490x490.JPG

GSH
07-06-2016, 01:28 PM
Why do people want Bourosis?


Dammit, I keep clicking on this thread when it comes to the top, thinking there's some news.

Spurs need a dependable backup C. Bourousis, I think, is good enough to be that. He should be affordable, and he wants to come here. Unless Boban improves significantly, he'll get lit up by too many teams. He's fun to watch, except when he's not.

The Spurs really did try to get him here when KBP was pimping that thread. They thought he was good enough then, and he's more experienced now. He sort of snubbed them, and I don't know if they are interested in giving him a second chance. But I don't doubt that he has enough to offer, and I don't think they can afford to hold a grudge.

jermaine
07-06-2016, 01:29 PM
Fear the beard 2.0

http://www.elcorreo.com/noticias/201510/01/media/cortadas/bourousis-baskonia--490x490.JPG

Idk who's shot is more wet.... his or Forbes.. I like this guy.

LakerHater
07-06-2016, 01:31 PM
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GSH
07-06-2016, 01:31 PM
^Sorry was thinking of Lorbek who is way more questionable.


LOL... so I answered a question that wasn't really a question. :lol

I really feel sorry for Lorbek right now. That poor bastard really wants a chance to play, but he can't stay healthy. I think missing these early games due to injuries in warm-ups has already doomed him. He'll get a chance to play a few games, if he's up to it, but I don't think they will look at him seriously anymore. That's a shame for him.

BillMc
07-06-2016, 01:32 PM
Dammit, I keep clicking on this thread when it comes to the top, thinking there's some news.

Spurs need a dependable backup C. Bourousis, I think, is good enough to be that. He should be affordable, and he wants to come here. Unless Boban improves significantly, he'll get lit up by too many teams. He's fun to watch, except when he's not.

The Spurs really did try to get him here when KBP was pimping that thread. They thought he was good enough then, and he's more experienced now. He sort of snubbed them, and I don't know if they are interested in giving him a second chance. But I don't doubt that he has enough to offer, and I don't think they can afford to hold a grudge.

I read (somewhere) that he is a very good passer. If we are really going to have some serious shooters in the second unit (Mills, Bertans, Forbes) that could make him even more valuable.

houston spurs fan
07-06-2016, 01:57 PM
Much rather him go in with Kobe than Garnett

raybies
07-06-2016, 02:03 PM
Reading the tea leaves, it seems Tim's decision falls in line with Borrousis'. Imo I would be ecstatic I'd we land him. Much better all around player than Boban. Much more versatile.

Chinook
07-06-2016, 02:09 PM
750757703555903488

It better happen sooner. Sure, the team can probably deal with signing Murray using cap space, but by the time he decides, it may be too late to use the room exception. If he hadn't opted in, this wouldn't be an issue. But he did. So now he has to deal with it. This just seems to be very odd timing. The biggest thing is that the team really can't afford to carry Duncan's contract for much longer. They really aren't set up for him to return, financially. They made so many commitments already, that a number of folks will have to take less for him to come back now. That wouldn't be the case had he opted out.

jermaine
07-06-2016, 02:14 PM
Its not that dam hard to think about... Either his old ass wanna play or he dont! Hell he could tell them he dont wanna play away gms in the regular season!

Sean Cagney
07-06-2016, 02:40 PM
Much rather him go in with Kobe than Garnett

Garnett should have retired three years ago tbh, what is he doing?

NameLess Scrub
07-06-2016, 02:47 PM
If he retires, it would be good since he seems to have finally reached his age's usual physical condition.
If he doesn't retire, I have a chance of going to watch him in his presumed final season.

Man..

NameLess Scrub
07-06-2016, 02:48 PM
Garnett should have retired three years ago tbh, what is he doing?

Making a couple of more millions?

sigh.. just one percenter things.

gambit1990
07-06-2016, 02:53 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_iN6qwvoS8