How much calories can you burn playing baseball?

[apalisoc_9]

I've been trying to figure out the number but so far I've only came out with estimates..

Chewing Gum - 2 calories
standing just waiting for the ball = 10 calories
seating on the bench making gum ballons = 8 calories
an average 4 baseball throws per game = 45 calories
spitting = 10 calories..

In total about 90 or so in a 3 hour game. Am I accurate?

[midnightpulp]

n a standard nine-inning game, a pitcher will burn about 1,440 calories, according to Eugene Coleman’s book “52-Week Baseball Training.” In comparison to other players on the field, the pitcher expends the most energy during the course of a game. While a catcher will burn up 1,100 calories, a fielder will expend 1,000 calories.

Baseball kills you on the wear and tear, though.

Take it from someone who grew up playing basketball, football, and baseball. Throwing a baseball full speed 70-80 times over a game is A LOT more demanding than playing 4 or 5 hours of basketball, something I used to do every afternoon for 5 years straight.

You can't even lift your arm up the next day. Don't know why you guys think stamina is some amazing athletic trait. It ain't shit, which is why all the unathletic kids ran cross country.

[lefty]

I've been trying to figure out the number but so far I've only came out with estimates..

Chewing Gum - 2 calories
standing just waiting for the ball = 10 calories
seating on the bench making gum ballons = 8 calories
an average 4 baseball throws per game = 45 calories
spitting = 10 calories..

In total about 90 or so in a 3 hour game. Am I accurate?

:lol

[thispego]

Baseball kills you on the wear and tear, though.

Take it from someone who grew up playing basketball, football, and baseball. Throwing a baseball full speed 70-80 times over a game is A LOT more demanding than playing 4 or 5 hours of basketball, something I used to do every afternoon for 5 years straight.

You can't even lift your arm up the next day. Don't know why you guys think stamina is some amazing athletic trait. It ain't shit, which is why all the unathletic kids ran cross country.

:lmao

[TheGreatYacht]

I've been trying to figure out the number but so far I've only came out with estimates..

Chewing Gum - 2 calories
standing just waiting for the ball = 10 calories
seating on the bench making gum ballons = 8 calories
an average 4 baseball throws per game = 45 calories
spitting = 10 calories..

In total about 90 or so in a 3 hour game. Am I accurate?
:lmao

[140]

I've been trying to figure out the number but so far I've only came out with estimates..

Chewing Gum - 2 calories
standing just waiting for the ball = 10 calories
seating on the bench making gum ballons = 8 calories
an average 4 baseball throws per game = 45 calories
spitting = 10 calories..

In total about 90 or so in a 3 hour game. Am I accurate?
:lmao OP with the goods

[apalisoc_9]

Baseball kills you on the wear and tear, though.

Take it from someone who grew up playing basketball, football, and baseball. Throwing a baseball full speed 70-80 times over a game is A LOT more demanding than playing 4 or 5 hours of basketball, something I used to do every afternoon for 5 years straight.

You can't even lift your arm up the next day. Don't know why you guys think stamina is some amazing athletic trait. It ain't shit, which is why all the unathletic kids ran cross country.

MLB pitchers dont average 9 innigns a game bro. Stop kidding yourself.

Plus I jack off and lose 1000 calories too..Hands get sore doesnt mean masturbating is a real sport.

[whitemamba]

:lmao 9/10 tbh

[lefty]

MLB pitchers dont average 9 innigns a game bro. Stop kidding yourself.

Plus I jack off and lose 1000 calories too..Hands get sore doesnt mean masturbating is a real sport.

:lol

[lefty]

:lmao there is beisbol ASG?

[DAF86]

Baseball kills you on the wear and tear, though.

Take it from someone who grew up playing basketball, football, and baseball. Throwing a baseball full speed 70-80 times over a game is A LOT more demanding than playing 4 or 5 hours of basketball, something I used to do every afternoon for 5 years straight.

You can't even lift your arm up the next day. Don't know why you guys think stamina is some amazing athletic trait. It ain't shit, which is why all the unathletic kids ran cross country.

It's just the one thing that allows you to display all your other athletic feats and skills at full potential. But sure, no biggie. :lol

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I've been trying to figure out the number but so far I've only came out with estimates..

Chewing Gum - 2 calories
standing just waiting for the ball = 10 calories
seating on the bench making gum ballons = 8 calories
an average 4 baseball throws per game = 45 calories
spitting = 10 calories..

In total about 90 or so in a 3 hour game. Am I accurate?

Guess you never pitched? Or caught a game? Or played outfield and chased down a few balls on a 95 degree day? Had to run 1st to third? Steel a base? Dive for a liner in the infield?

Wouldn't expect much more from an ignorant putz such as yourself.

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MLB pitchers dont average 9 innigns a game bro. Stop kidding yourself.

Plus I jack off and lose 1000 calories too..Hands get sore doesnt mean masturbating is a real sport.

You're a GD moron. How's your aunt do as an image in your head while you fap off to her??

[apalisoc_9]

You're a GD moron. How's your aunt do as an image in your head while you fap off to her??

Easy there bro..Your doctor told you to calm down or else you're going to get another Stroke.

I like that you're trying to be active and playing beisbol and all, but you're never going to burn and melt those fats around your heart by spitting, chewing gum, and catching balls. Need to do something more cardio intensive.

[InRareForm]

Summer topics

[midnightpulp]

It's just the one thing that allows you to display all your other athletic feats and skills at full potential. But sure, no biggie. :lol

What I meant is that stamina/cardio is easy to train up. 90 year old people run marathons every year. 300lb fat asses can go from obese to running 5 miles everyday in no time (I have a female 45 year old cousin who went from like 300lb to doing triathlons seemingly every month over a couple of years). There's nothing impressive about "running around."

Usain Bolt probably has shit stamina (too much cardio training would be detrimental for a sprinter, killing explosiveness). So he's less of an athlete now? And what's more impressive: Him breaking 9.60 or Mo Farah jogging around a track?

Basketball and soccer have about the same calorie burn rate:


According to Harvard Health Publications, people who weigh 155 and 185 pounds burn about 260 and 311 calories, respectively, during 30 minutes of playing soccer.


The more you weigh, the more calories you'll burn doing the same exercise. For example, as previously mentioned, a 150-pound individual burns about 272 calories playing a 30-minute game of basketball. Doing the same exercise, someone weighing 100 pounds burns 181 calories and someone weighing 200 pounds burns 363 calories.

Soccer wouldn't be some foreign territory of endurance for an American baseball player. Mike Trout, Giancarlo Stanton, Corey Seager, Clayton Kershaw for instance all played basketball growing up and in high school.

http://images.maxpreps.com/site_images/editorial/article/f/4/4/f44e9a21-09e9-4a1b-9704-32ea2d3344d1/64d3a905-0c6f-e411-b4d2-002655e6c45a_original.jpg

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I wonder how many more calories you burn chewing tobacco than gum? Forces you to spit like twice as much as normal fatbal players.

What about smoking a cig, how many are burned there?

https://67.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m07vl0aW4I1qm9rypo1_1280.jpg

:lol any "sport" where you can smoke during games and still win league MVP and "batting" champion

[Relevancy]

I can respect baseball players who seem athletic but there's just too many with bellys imo.. Baseball has to be the least physical demanding sport out there next to golf:lmao

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I wonder how many more calories you burn chewing tobacco than gum? Forces you to spit like twice as much as normal fatbal players.

What about smoking a cig, how many are burned there?

https://67.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m07vl0aW4I1qm9rypo1_1280.jpg

:lol any "sport" where you can smoke during games and still win league MVP and "batting" champion

Does indeed look tough. Nice find, Shits.

[Brazil]

MLB pitchers dont average 9 innigns a game bro. Stop kidding yourself.

Plus I jack off and lose 1000 calories too..Hands get sore doesnt mean masturbating is a real sport.

:lol tbh...

[midnightpulp]

I wonder how many more calories you burn chewing tobacco than gum? Forces you to spit like twice as much as normal fatbal players.

http://socqer.com/static_media/uploaded_images/J4L1NG137T_jackcharlton_smoking.jpg

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2903974/Arsene-Wenger-Smoking-doesn-t-affect-footballer-s-performance.html

[apalisoc_9]

No wonder arsenal cant win a damn thing :lmao

[midnightpulp]

No wonder arsenal cant win a damn thing :lmao

Why shouldn't they smoke?

It's not like lightly jogging for 5 miles over 90 minutes is demanding.

[DAF86]

Why shouldn't they smoke?

It's not like lightly jogging for 5 miles over 90 minutes is demanding.

:lol You would be gasping for air 2 minutes into a soccer match. If you play it like you are suppossed to play it, of course.

And no, 2 minutes isn't an exaggeration.

[apalisoc_9]

Why shouldn't they smoke?

It's not like lightly jogging for 5 miles over 90 minutes is demanding.

:lmao

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http://socqer.com/static_media/uploaded_images/J4L1NG137T_jackcharlton_smoking.jpg

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2903974/Arsene-Wenger-Smoking-doesn-t-affect-footballer-s-performance.html

http://www.baconsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/stargel-smoking.jpg

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:lol Current All-star outfielder is a chain smoker during games
:lol He's a "throwback"
:lol just light up on the field, you don't do anything anyways
:lol Today's fatbol

[midnightpulp]

http://www.baconsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/stargel-smoking.jpg

633789245958848512

:lol Current All-star outfielder is a chain smoker during games
:lol He's a "throwback"
:lol just light up on the field, you don't do anything anyways
:lol Today's fatbol

Cespedes is faster than any floptrot player on earth, though.

Not to mention stronger.

23mph :wow


Yoenis Cespedes stole third base with ease in the sixth inning, thanks to a blistering max speed of 23.6 mph on the play.

How's Ronaldo and that 4.7 40 doing :lmao

[140]

MLB pitchers dont average 9 innigns a game bro. Stop kidding yourself.

Plus I jack off and lose 1000 calories too..Hands get sore doesnt mean masturbating is a real sport.
:lmao

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Cespedes is faster than any floptrot player on earth, though.

Not to mention stronger.

23mph :wow



How's Ronaldo and that 4.7 40 doing :lmao

:lmao so your defense is that "yeah, one of the best players in the league is a chain smoker but look how fast he can run the 30yd dash!"?

[JoeTait75]

I wonder how many more calories you burn chewing tobacco than gum? Forces you to spit like twice as much as normal fatbal players.

What about smoking a cig, how many are burned there?

https://67.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m07vl0aW4I1qm9rypo1_1280.jpg

:lol any "sport" where you can smoke during games and still win league MVP and "batting" champion

I'm not that much of a baseball fan and I'm really not much of a Keith Hernandez fan after he basically stole $3 million from the Indians in the early '90s, but a lot of athletes in every sport smoked back in the day.

https://i.imgur.com/MkbgexV.jpg

[Relevancy]

Why shouldn't they smoke?

It's not like lightly jogging for 5 miles over 90 minutes is demanding.:lmao Nice trolling 10/10

[midnightpulp]

:lol You would be gasping for air 2 minutes into a soccer match. If you play it like you are suppossed to play it, of course.

And no, 2 minutes isn't an exaggeration.

Soccer is no more cardio intensive than playing basketball on a per minute basis (this is scientifically proven).

This is why I don't get why you floptrot fans think an American athlete, most of which played basketball at some point in their lives, would be intimidated by soccer's cardio demands? And let's be real, trotting around the field is 95% of the "sprinting" soccer players do.

If you want to penis wave, let's get you in a 90mph batting cage. You wouldn't even foul tip a ball. You'd just see blurs going by and wonder how the hell anyone can hit a baseball.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-4xZkja634

[midnightpulp]

:lmao so your defense is that "yeah, one of the best players in the league is a chain smoker but look how fast he can run the 30yd dash!"?

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/wayne-rooney-spent-too-much-time-smoking-cigarettes-thats-why-hes-not-as-good-as-cristiano-ronaldo-9234840.html

http://www.fanatix.com/news/top-ten-smoking-footballers-jack-wilshere-lionel-messi-and-more/153282/

[Koolaid_Man]

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/wayne-rooney-spent-too-much-time-smoking-cigarettes-thats-why-hes-not-as-good-as-cristiano-ronaldo-9234840.html

http://www.fanatix.com/news/top-ten-smoking-footballers-jack-wilshere-lionel-messi-and-more/153282/


He was waived and stretched Mid :lol

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http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/wayne-rooney-spent-too-much-time-smoking-cigarettes-thats-why-hes-not-as-good-as-cristiano-ronaldo-9234840.html

http://www.fanatix.com/news/top-ten-smoking-footballers-jack-wilshere-lionel-messi-and-more/153282/

Conflating having an occasional fag to chain smoking during a game.

[Thread]

People who smoke and "do it" right are a sight.

There is a small space in "This Boy's Life" where Ellen Barkin's character walks out the back door to have a smoke. She drags on it a couple times, then with middle finger flicks the butt into the darkness, the muted sparks can be seen---turns and re enters the house.

[midnightpulp]

Conflating having an occasional fag to chain smoking during a game.

:lol Rooney an occasional smoker.

He's well known to be a habitual smoker.


Among other claims about Rooney’s private life last weekend was that he paid £200 for a packet of Malboros.

Others:


Socrates: The legendary Brazilian captain and World Cup winner got through two packets of cigarettes a day during his playing career and continued to smoke after he retired. He’s now a medical doctor.


Robert Prosinečki

Ex-Crotaian international Robert Prosinečki was famous in his homeland for being a heavy smoker. He was as well known for his ability to chug away on more than 40 ciggies a day as he was for his midfield prowess.


Fabien Barthez was a high-profile smoker during his time in the Prem. After a game for Man United against Southampton in 2003, defeated manager Gordon Strachan was furious when he returned to his non-smoking office and found cigarettes stubbed out in an ashtray. It seemed that the injured Barthez had been in the room after being stretchered off in the second half. The Scottish manager later said that he “must have been taken off for smoker’s cough”.

I also don't get why you love these floptrot athletes so much? Shit 40 times. Shit vertical leaps. Shit upper body strength.

Oh, but they jog around :lmao

[DAF86]

Soccer is no more cardio intensive than playing basketball on a per minute basis (this is scientifically proven).

This is why I don't get why you floptrot fans think an American athlete, most of which played basketball at some point in their lives, would be intimidated by soccer's cardio demands? And let's be real, trotting around the field is 95% of the "sprinting" soccer players do.

If you want to penis wave, let's get you in a 90mph batting cage. You wouldn't even foul tip a ball. You'd just see blurs going by and wonder how the hell anyone can hit a baseball.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-4xZkja634

In basketball you don't have to play non-stop for 45 minutes.

[140]

:lol Rooney an occasional smoker.

He's well known to be a habitual smoker.
One of the reasons he's shit :lol

I love how 'muricans keep bringing up Rooney as if he's a relevant player :lmao

[140]

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https://dpbroadcasting.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/huuuuge.jpg

https://thenatural54.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/prince-fielder-r3.jpg

:lmao:lmao:lmao

[Splits]

They're not chain smoking during games.



I also don't get why you love these floptrot athletes so much? Shit 40 times. Shit vertical leaps. Shit upper body strength.




NO#
FOOTBALLER
TOP SPEED


1
Antonio Valencia (Manchester United)
35.2 km/h


2
Raheem Sterling (Liverpool)
35.1 km/h


3
Gareth Bale (Real Madrid)
34.7 km/h


4
Theo Walcott (Arsenal)
34.3 km/h


5
Arjan Robben (Bayern Munich)
33.9 km/h


6
Aaron Lennon (Everton)
33.8 km/h


7
Cristiano Ronaldo (Real Madrid)
33.6 km/h


8
Gabriel Agbonlahor (Aston Villa)
33.3 kh/h


9
Ross Barkley (Everton)
32.8 km/h


10
Lionel Messi (Barcelona)
32.5 km/h



35.2 km/h is approx 22 mp/h, not far from the all-star in-game chain smoker's 30 yard dash time.

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http://cdn.ipernity.com/125/86/22/14168622.4012f4dd.640.jpg?r2

https://dpbroadcasting.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/huuuuge.jpg

https://thenatural54.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/prince-fielder-r3.jpg

:lmao:lmao:lmao

:lmao

How about this "world" series MVP

http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/slides/photos/003/071/386/hi-res-163051887_crop_north.jpg?w=630&h=420&q=75

:lol calling it a "world" series when only Canada competes in your league

[midnightpulp]

In basketball you don't have to play non-stop for 45 minutes.

Neither do you in soccer.

Don't act like I don't have youtube at my disposal and can watch thousands of games, and see that when players are disengaged from the action, they're just standing around or lightly jogging to angle into a formation.

Running isn't the only way to burn calories, and basketball players will jump dozens of times more per game.

We also need to consider relative build here. A jacked, 6'7", 230lb specimen like Kawhi Leonard is under a lot more load playing basketball that a 5'6" 150lb midget like Messi or even the 175lb Ronaldo. More muscle mass=more oxygen demand, so a frame like Kawhi even being able to play 40 minutes of basketball is more impressive of a "stamina" feat than watching this run around for 90 minutes.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-fERT6doSRGE/UNeh-iKG12I/AAAAAAAAFDo/G7in8OBI_4Y/s1600/cristiano-ronaldo-538-neymar-takes-his-shirt-off-and-shows-his-abs-but-skinny-body-in-2012.jpg

[Relevancy]

:lmao

How about this "world" series MVP

http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/slides/photos/003/071/386/hi-res-163051887_crop_north.jpg?w=630&h=420&q=75

:lol calling it a "world" series when only Canada competes in your leaguewait what the hell this guy seriously won the mvp?:wow

[DAF86]

:lol calling it a "world" series when only Canada competes in your league

Seriously, same shit with the NBA crowning "World champions". How much of a self centered douchebag do you have to be to have the nerve of even thinking of calling domestic champions "world" champions? :lol

Stealing the name of the continent wasn't enough apparently. :lol

[Splits]

Seriously, same shit with the NBA crowning "World champions". How much of a self centered douchebag do you have to be to have the nerve of even thinking of calling domestic champions "world" champions? :lol

Stealing the name of the continent wasn't enough apparently. :lol

It's not an NBA thing, it's a team thing. Another reason I respect Pop. He would have none of that.

https://tshaonline.org/sites/default/files/images/handbook/SS/spurs-banners.jpg

Meanwhile, these douchebags

http://archive.sltrib.com/images/2011/1227/gallery_jazzshootaround_122711~0.jpg

[DAF86]

Neither do you in soccer.

Don't act like I don't have youtube at my disposal and can watch thousands of games, and see that when players are disengaged from the action, they're just standing around or lightly jogging to angle into a formation.

Running isn't the only way to burn calories, and basketball players will jump dozens of times more per game.

We also need to consider relative build here. A jacked, 6'7", 230lb specimen like Kawhi Leonard is under a lot more load playing basketball that a 5'6" 150lb midget like Messi or even the 175lb Ronaldo. More muscle mass=more oxygen demand, so a frame like Kawhi even being able to play 40 minutes of basketball is more impressive of a "stamina" feat than watching this run around for 90 minutes.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-fERT6doSRGE/UNeh-iKG12I/AAAAAAAAFDo/G7in8OBI_4Y/s1600/cristiano-ronaldo-538-neymar-takes-his-shirt-off-and-shows-his-abs-but-skinny-body-in-2012.jpg

Well, they are still on their feet moving around with the concentration and tension of an ongoing game. They don't have "time-outs" to go sit on the bench and drink some water.

[midnightpulp]

They're not chain smoking during games.





NO#
FOOTBALLER
TOP SPEED


1
Antonio Valencia (Manchester United)
35.2 km/h


2
Raheem Sterling (Liverpool)
35.1 km/h


3
Gareth Bale (Real Madrid)
34.7 km/h


4
Theo Walcott (Arsenal)
34.3 km/h


5
Arjan Robben (Bayern Munich)
33.9 km/h


6
Aaron Lennon (Everton)
33.8 km/h


7
Cristiano Ronaldo (Real Madrid)
33.6 km/h


8
Gabriel Agbonlahor (Aston Villa)
33.3 kh/h


9
Ross Barkley (Everton)
32.8 km/h


10
Lionel Messi (Barcelona)
32.5 km/h



35.2 km/h is approx 22 mp/h, not far from the all-star in-game chain smoker's 30 yard dash time.

That is the fastest ever. 1 guy. Mike Trout would be one of the fastest players in floptrot, and he's 230lb.

Also, Messi's speed there is 20.1 mph.

Here's is pitcher Zach Greinke reaching 20.3 mph.

http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/73955164/v849871783/aricol-statcast-measures-greinkes-speed-on-steal/?query=zach%2Bgreinke

A 32 year old pitcher is faster than the 10th fastest floptrot player :lmao

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Well, they are still on their feet moving around with the concentration and tension of an ongoing game. They don't have "time-outs" to go sit on the bench and drink some beer.

Fixed.


The New York Daily News, quoting "clubhouse insiders", say that players drinking beer in clubhouses, and even dugouts, during games is "nothing new" in major-league baseball and quotes one of them as saying the "only reason" it's becoming such a big deal in Boston "is because the Sox didn't make the playoffs".

One source said Jason Giambi and Roger Clemens would "routinely" drink beer in the dugout during games while they played for the Yankees. Another said Mets players "would go into the clubhouse, pour beer in Gatorade cups and return to the dugout."

"Beer has always been a big part of the clubhouse. That's been going on forever," one of the baseball insiders said.

:lol a "sport" you can play drunk

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That is the fastest ever. 1 guy. Mike Trout would be one of the fastest players in floptrot, and he's 230lb.

Also, Messi's speed there is 20.1 mph.

Here's is pitcher Zach Greinke reaching 20.3 mph.

http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/73955164/v849871783/aricol-statcast-measures-greinkes-speed-on-steal/?query=zach%2Bgreinke

A 32 year old pitcher is faster than the 10th fastest floptrot player :lmao

Since there is zero need for endurance in American cricket, players train to sprint.

Footballers have to do both.

Your argument is basically :lol 10k runners can't compete with Usain Bolt

[midnightpulp]

Well, they are still on their feet moving around with the concentration and tension of an ongoing game. They don't have "time-outs" to go sit on the bench and drink some water.

They would need water and breaks if they actually had muscle mass on big 6'3"-6'7" frames like NBA players or NFL players.

[midnightpulp]

Since there is zero need for endurance in American cricket, players train to sprint.

Footballers have to do both.

Your argument is basically :lol 10k runners can't compete with Usain Bolt

Zach Greinke training to sprint :lmao

He's a pitcher. And rarely gets on base enough to even warrant training to run fast. And yet, he's faster than Messi :lmao

Indeed that's my argument. And Usain Bolt is a more impressive athlete than this guy:

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Sport/Pix/pictures/2012/7/12/1342119439602/Mo-Farah-celebrates-winni-008.jpg

Like I always tell DAF. This easiest way to figure out the best overall athlete is to theorize who would win in a decathlon. And the top 50 baseball players would demolish the top 50 soccer players. Go ahead and throw Prince in, too. Just means another weapon in the discus and shotput throw. The only events the soccer players would win would be the 1500 and pole vault (because of their lighter frames). And running a 1500 isn't some great feat either. The baseball players would lose by less points there than the soccer players would lose by in the throwing events.

[midnightpulp]

This is how I imagine DAF in the cage:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WliM1w1MWDk

:cry But I saw a fat guy on TV do it and I have great "stamina" so it must be easy :cry

[Splits]

Zach Greinke training to sprint :lmao

He's a pitcher. And rarely gets on base enough to even warrant training to run fast. And yet, he's faster than Messi :lmao


So he doesn't need to cover first base, back up third/home?


Like I always tell DAF. This easiest way to figure out the best overall athlete is to theorize who would win in a decathlon. And the top 50 baseball players would demolish the top 50 soccer players. Go ahead and throw Prince in, too. Just means another weapon in the discus and shotput throw. The only events the soccer players would win would be the 1500 and pole vault (because of their lighter frames). And running a 1500 isn't some great feat either. The baseball players would lose by less points there than the soccer players would lose by in the throwing events.

This is either a dumb or intentionally deceitful argument. Replace "dec" with "tri" and I win.

[DAF86]

Zach Greinke training to sprint :lmao

He's a pitcher. And rarely gets on base enough to even warrant training to run fast. And yet, he's faster than Messi :lmao

Indeed that's my argument. And Usain Bolt is a more impressive athlete than this guy:

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Sport/Pix/pictures/2012/7/12/1342119439602/Mo-Farah-celebrates-winni-008.jpg

Like I always tell DAF. This easiest way to figure out the best overall athlete is to theorize who would win in a decathlon. And the top 50 baseball players would demolish the top 50 soccer players. Go ahead and throw Prince in, too. Just means another weapon in the discus and shotput throw. The only events the soccer players would win would be the 1500 and pole vault (because of their lighter frames). And running a 1500 isn't some great feat either. The baseball players would lose by less points there than the soccer players would lose by in the throwing events.

I seriously doubt that. But why have that arbitrary selection? Baseball and soccer rosters are compossed of more or less the same amount of players. Go pick the most athletic team in the MLB and compare it to the least athletic team in professional soccer and the soccer roster still wins this imaginary decathlon by a wide ass margin.

[midnightpulp]

So he doesn't need to cover first base, back up third/home?



This is either a dumb or intentionally deceitful argument. Replace "dec" with "tri" and I win.

No it isn't, bro.

How do you figure the triathlon as a overall tester of athleticism when it's totally based around endurance disciplines? There's no: Jumping, throwing, sprint, or strength events. You don't like it, take it up with the Greeks and King Gustav.


Traditionally, the title of "World's Greatest Athlete" has been given to the man who wins the Olympic decathlon.

And like I said, I have a former 300lb cousin who lost weight and now does them for fun. So hard. :lol

And no, you don't need to run wind sprints and train up sprint explosiveness to cover first and home. Even fatboy Bartolo Colon has enough speed to cover first.

[Koolaid_Man]

No it isn't, bro.

How do you figure the triathlon as a overall tester of athleticism when it's totally based around endurance disciplines? There's no: Jumping, throwing, sprint, or strength events. You don't like it, take it up with the Greeks and King Gustav.



And like I said, I have a former 300lb cousin who lost weight and now does them for fun. So hard. :lol

And no, you don't need to run wind sprints and train up sprint explosiveness to cover first and home. Even fatboy Bartolo Colon has enough speed to cover first.


He was waived and stretched :lmao

[Splits]

No it isn't, bro.

How do you figure the triathlon as a overall tester of athleticism when it's totally based around endurance disciplines? There's no: Jumping, throwing, sprint, or strength events. You don't like it, take it up with the Greeks and King Gustav.


Yes, it is.

If these guys are the greatest athletes, why don't they just do decathalons in the Olympics and then go dominate actual sports that actually pay them money? The answer is they can't. By your logic the top 50 fatbol players could go to Rio this year and win gold.

[SpursforSix]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/11/04/1415142856191_wps_3_UK_CLIENTS_MUST_CREDIT_AK.jpg

[Will Hunting]

I've got a serious question for both baseball and soccer fans:

Soccer fans - Do you seriously refuse to accept the possibility that some Americans might simply find a sport that frequently ends in a 0-0 tie as boring for reasons other than ignorance/xenophobia/inability to understand soccer's "complexity"?

Baseball fans - Do you seriously not understand why some people might view baseball as a joke given the high number of successful MLB careers people have had while being dangerously overweight?

[midnightpulp]

I seriously doubt that. But why have that arbitrary selection? Baseball and soccer rosters are compossed of more or less the same amount of players. Go pick the most athletic team in the MLB and compare it to the least athletic team in professional soccer and the soccer roster still wins this imaginary decathlon by a wide ass margin.

You do know there's 3 throwing events in the decathlon?

The baseball squad would win by 10x the points (I've seen how pathetic soccer players are when they throw out the first pitch at a baseball game).

This is where you think the soccer players would make up ground in the sprint and jump events. Your misconception is that you think every team's bottom of the roster is filled with Bartolo Colon types, and you and the soccer crew still haven't gotten it throw your thick skulls that Bartolo, Sandoval, etc are not typical players. As I stated before, the average BMI of a baseball team is only 1 point less than that of a soccer team in the EPL.

Most position players in baseball can hit 18mph+ top speed (beating out throws is a pretty important part of the game), with the fastest topping out faster than any floptrot player in history. Leaping ability is also important for robbing hits. This leaves the soccer squad having to make up a shit load of ground in the 1500, and sorry, but running a good mile time isn't all that hard to do.

This guy:

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z231/Hekko_photo/FranckRibery.jpg

Against this guy in a decathlon:

http://mediadownloads.mlb.com/mlbam/2014/07/12/images/mlbf_34496663_th_45.jpg

"Wide ass margin." :lmao

[Splits]

I've got a serious question for both baseball and soccer fans:

Soccer fans - Do you seriously refuse to accept the possibility that some Americans might simply find a sport that frequently ends in a 0-0 tie as boring for reasons other than ignorance/xenophobia/inability to understand soccer's "complexity"?


No.

I grew up playing beisbol, followed the MLB since as long as I can remember (used to rush home from middle school to catch Haray Caray calling Cubs games), coached a little league team in college, and never paid a lick of attention to football. Then I moved to Europe, became enlightened, and well... the rest is history.

[SpursforSix]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Fzq94YVbHHM/TIVbLQ6L0aI/AAAAAAAA4fo/_Y58Mn96688/s1600/celebrity_plastic_surgery_12.jpg

[DAF86]

I've got a serious question for both baseball and soccer fans:

Soccer fans - Do you seriously refuse to accept the possibility that some Americans might simply find a sport that frequently ends in a 0-0 tie as boring for reasons other than ignorance/xenophobia/inability to understand soccer's "complexity"?

No, I don't. You can't argue likes and dislikes, tbh. But that's not really what we usually argue on this threads, tbh.

[midnightpulp]

I've got a serious question for both baseball and soccer fans:

Soccer fans - Do you seriously refuse to accept the possibility that some Americans might simply find a sport that frequently ends in a 0-0 tie as boring for reasons other than ignorance/xenophobia/inability to understand soccer's "complexity"?

Baseball fans - Do you seriously not understand why some people might view baseball as a joke given the high number of successful MLB careers people have had while being dangerously overweight?

Quite honestly, I don't understand this.

Warren Sapp, Dana Stubblefield, Vince Wilfork, Reggie White, Larry Allen, Cortez Kennedy, and countless others. Clinically obese NFL (defensive)MVPs and Hall of Famers.

George Foreman: Won the world title at 45 and near obesity.

Rulan Gardner. Olympic Gold Medal winning wrestler. Obese.

A lot Rugby props are also obese.

A better question for floptrot fans is why they equate physique with athleticism and skill? I'm not sure fans of any other sport have a fetish like this for "shredded" men.

[Will Hunting]

No, I don't. You can't argue likes and dislikes, tbh. But that's not really what we usually argue on this threads, tbh.

You don't refuse to accept the possibility or you don't accept the possibility? I'm not sure what you're saying.

[Will Hunting]

No.

I grew up playing beisbol, followed the MLB since as long as I can remember (used to rush home from middle school to catch Haray Caray calling Cubs games), coached a little league team in college, and never paid a lick of attention to football. Then I moved to Europe, became enlightened, and well... the rest is history.

My question about soccer had nothing to do with baseball, so I don't understand your response. I know plenty of people who find both soccer and baseball boring and don't watch either.

[midnightpulp]

No.

I grew up playing beisbol, followed the MLB since as long as I can remember (used to rush home from middle school to catch Haray Caray calling Cubs games), coached a little league team in college, and never paid a lick of attention to football. Then I moved to Europe, became enlightened, and well... the rest is history.

:lol Or maybe you're just a contrarian?

Tell me what is "enlightening" about a sport stuck in the Victorian age with its game design that ends in a tie 30% of the time?

[Clipper Nation]

Seriously, same shit with the NBA crowning "World champions". How much of a self centered douchebag do you have to be to have the nerve of even thinking of calling domestic champions "world" champions? :lol

Stealing the name of the continent wasn't enough apparently. :lol
When the rest of the world starts up leagues with teams that are capable of beating the NBA or MLB champions in a 7-game series, then they can call themselves the world champions.

Notice how floptrot fans never bitch about the name of the World Cup, despite the fact that many of the world's biggest and most important countries don't give a fuck about the "sport."

[Clipper Nation]

No.

I grew up playing beisbol, followed the MLB since as long as I can remember (used to rush home from middle school to catch Haray Caray calling Cubs games), coached a little league team in college, and never paid a lick of attention to football. Then I moved to Europe, became enlightened, and well... the rest is history.
http://i.imgur.com/6ZEmhvT.jpg

[Will Hunting]

Quite honestly, I don't understand this.

Warren Sapp, Dana Stubblefield, Vince Wilfork, Reggie White, Larry Allen, Cortez Kennedy, and countless others. Clinically obese NFL (defensive)MVPs and Hall of Famers.

George Foreman: Won the world title at 45 and near obesity.

Rulan Gardner. Olympic Gold Medal winning wrestler. Obese.

A lot Rugby props are also obese.

A better question for floptrot fans is why they equate physique with athleticism and skill? I'm not sure fans of any other sport have a fetish like this for "shredded" men.

The NFL comparison makes no sense. It's advantageous for players at certain positions to be heavier/stronger for obvious reasons. There isn't any advantage to being an overweight pitcher or batter.

[Splits]

:lol Or maybe you're just a contrarian?

Tell me what is "enlightening" about a sport stuck in the Victorian age with its game design that ends in a tie 30% of the time?

Popular opinion is not on your side.

Tell me what is entertaining about a 3 hour game that you could watch in 15 minutes if you took out all of the standing around, pitching changes, talks on the mound, commercials, and balls? You literally get a return on your time investment of no more than 10% watching a fatbol game.

[SpursforSix]

Even little babies can kick a ball. Yep. Put a catcher's mitt on a baby and see if he can handle a 100 mph pitch.

[Will Hunting]

Popular opinion is not on your side.

Tell me what is entertaining about a 3 hour game that you could watch in 15 minutes if you took out all of the standing around, pitching changes, talks on the mound, commercials, and balls? You literally get a return on your time investment of no more than 10% watching a fatbol game.
What's the return on time you get for soccer games that end in a tie or in PKs :lol

[Will Hunting]

Tbh some soccer fans remind of the MMA fans on this site who can't see why two men in spandex rolling around with each other on the floor of a cage is considered by some to be kinda gay.

[Brazil]

I played soccer, rugby, basketball and used to swin... a lot

Training: from hardest to easiest for the body / stamina / what the fuck you call it that is not skills. 1. Swimming 2. Soccer 3. Rugby and 4. Basketball
Competition: 1. rugby and this is not even close (this sport is fucking crazy, 2x40 mn of actions non stop) 2. Soccer 3. basketball 4. Swin

Now for the nerves/brain whatever you want to call it

Training: 1. Swimming and it's not even close, swimming during hours against yourself, no games, no scoring, no fun 2. the others
Competition: 1. Swimming.... it is wait, do your stuff, wait, do your stuff, more wait... a day of competition is awfully long

I think beisbol is in same category than swimming for nerves/brain part... tough, very tough

[Brazil]

Also I don't get the obsession of americans with the scoring and being entertained :lol

Americans soccer haters don't get it and will never get it, it is simply impossible... it's like trying to convince most of planet earth that baseball is interesting... simply impossible

It is too much linked with culture both ways... you can get into NFL tbh I used to hate that game filled with 8 mn of playing time and 72 mn of adds but little by little I'm enjoying it. I will never ever enjoy baseball tho

[midnightpulp]

Popular opinion is not on your side.

Tell me what is entertaining about a 3 hour game that you could watch in 15 minutes if you took out all of the standing around, pitching changes, talks on the mound, commercials, and balls? You literally get a return on your time investment of no more than 10% watching a fatbol game.

Popular opinion is not on my side when I think Justin Bieber is a shit artist, as well.

What's entertaining about baseball?

Tension. And it's uniqueness in the sporting landscape.

"Oh boy. Another sport where a bunch of guys run around a field or court and try to put a ball in a goal!"

Basketball, soccer, hockey, and football are all spins on the same tired concept. I need to watch another goal sport like a need a hole in the head. Baseball's gameplay is completely different. There's no clock. Ball doesn't change possession after one team scores, which turns every inning into a defacto 4th quarter. Large scoring variation (you can score 1,2,3,4 runs on one play). Unpredictable scoring. You never know if a baseball game is going to end 1-0 or 15-14. Your great sport of soccer ends 1-0 50% of the time.

I don't need to see "stuff moving around" to be entertained.

[Splits]

What's the return on time you get for soccer games that end in a tie or in PKs :lol

If you count halftime which you can just skip and go get food or take a shit or whatever, out of 105 minutes, probably close to 75%. Without halftime, closer to 90%. Injuries, post-goal celebrations, the occasional lull where the ball gets stuck in the midfield.

[Koolaid_Man]

If you count halftime which you can just skip and go get food or take a shit or whatever, out of 105 minutes, probably close to 75%. Without halftime, closer to 90%. Injuries, post-goal celebrations, the occasional lull where the ball gets stuck in the midfield.

Shut tha fuck up and deal with the fact his homo ass got stretched and fucked...oops my bad I meant waived and stretched....:lmao

[Koolaid_Man]

Good luck in the lottery Kool .....:lmao

[DAF86]

You do know there's 3 throwing events in the decathlon?

The baseball squad would win by 10x the points (I've seen how pathetic soccer players are when they throw out the first pitch at a baseball game).

This is where you think the soccer players would make up ground in the sprint and jump events. Your misconception is that you think every team's bottom of the roster is filled with Bartolo Colon types, and you and the soccer crew still haven't gotten it throw your thick skulls that Bartolo, Sandoval, etc are not typical players. As I stated before, the average BMI of a baseball team is only 1 point less than that of a soccer team in the EPL.

Most position players in baseball can hit 18mph+ top speed (beating out throws is a pretty important part of the game), with the fastest topping out faster than any floptrot player in history. Leaping ability is also important for robbing hits. This leaves the soccer squad having to make up a shit load of ground in the 1500, and sorry, but running a good mile time isn't all that hard to do.

This guy:

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z231/Hekko_photo/FranckRibery.jpg

Against this guy in a decathlon:

http://mediadownloads.mlb.com/mlbam/2014/07/12/images/mlbf_34496663_th_45.jpg

"Wide ass margin." :lmao

Why post the individual pictures of two guys to try to make a point in this argument? That's kindergarten level debating skills. :lol

You know how easy is for me to pick the photo of one of the many overweight or old as fuck MLB players and compare it to a ripped soccer player? Wouldn't mean shit though, but it would be easy. :lol

On a MLB roster of about 30 players, a little less than half are pitchers. That's a huge handicap. And then you have the Davids Ortiz and Pablos Sandoval.

Let's check the decathlon's competitions:

100 metres - The fastest MLB player might be faster than the fastest soccer player but the many big liabilities that you can encounter in a MLB roster would bring their average way down. Winner: Soccer.

Long jump - idem. Winner: Soccer.

Shot put - I reckon this should be a competition MLB players should dominate. Winner: Baseball.

High jump - idem 1 and 2. Soccer.

400 metres - lol. Soccer.

110 metres hurdles - double lol. Soccer

Discus throw - Baseball

Pole vault - Poles would probably break on MLB players attempts :lol. Soccer

Javelin throw - I'm giving all the throwing shit to baseball although this shit and throwing a baseball aren't very similar, tbh. Baseball

1500 metres - yeah well, you know :lol Soccer

Soccer 7 - Baseball 3

Pretty clean kill, tbh. I don't know how you are going to do to try to spin this more than reasonable assumptions but I'm sure you will give it a try. Afterall, you are the only guy I know arguing that baseball players are more athletic than soccer players. :lol

[Koolaid_Man]

Back fire !!!!!!!!:lmao

[140]

Quite honestly, I don't understand this.

Warren Sapp, Dana Stubblefield, Vince Wilfork, Reggie White, Larry Allen, Cortez Kennedy, and countless others. Clinically obese NFL (defensive)MVPs and Hall of Famers.

George Foreman: Won the world title at 45 and near obesity.

Rulan Gardner. Olympic Gold Medal winning wrestler. Obese.

A lot Rugby props are also obese.

A better question for floptrot fans is why they equate physique with athleticism and skill? I'm not sure fans of any other sport have a fetish like this for "shredded" men.
:lol You are the one who literally just did that:



This guy:

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z231/Hekko_photo/FranckRibery.jpg

Against this guy in a decathlon:

http://mediadownloads.mlb.com/mlbam/2014/07/12/images/mlbf_34496663_th_45.jpg

[Koolaid_Man]

Omg baby stretch me, fuck me, waive me :lmao

[Koolaid_Man]

Good luck in the lottery Kool :lmao

[Koolaid_Man]

Gee thanks Mid!!!!!!:lmao

[midnightpulp]

The NFL comparison makes no sense. It's advantageous for players at certain positions to be heavier/stronger for obvious reasons. There isn't any advantage to being an overweight pitcher or batter.

That's why those players aren't very good.

Sandoval is on the DL. CC was in rehab, and below replacement level. Prince is a replacement level player. Colon has been below replacement level for the past 4 seasons. Other than a few outliers, the average size of an MLB player is 6'2" 190, so I don't get the "fatball" designation. It's like calling soccer "midgetball" because a few players are 5'3".

I would also argue that while being obese is never an advantage in baseball, being "thick" like David Ortiz or Miguel Cabrera is an advantage for a power hitter.

Also, people, primarily soccer fans, do think the NFL is a "joke" because there are specific positions where being obese is an advantage. I think their argument is fuckin' stupid, but I don't fetishize shredded men :lol

[Brazil]

Popular opinion is not on my side when I think Justin Bieber is a shit artist, as well.

What's entertaining about baseball?

Tension. And it's uniqueness in the sporting landscape.

"Oh boy. Another sport where a bunch of guys run around a field or court and try to put a ball in a goal!"

Basketball, soccer, hockey, and football are all spins on the same tired concept. I need to watch another goal sport like a need a hole in the head. Baseball's gameplay is completely different. There's no clock. Ball doesn't change possession after one team scores, which turns every inning into a defacto 4th quarter. Large scoring variation (you can score 1,2,3,4 runs on one play). Unpredictable scoring. You never know if a baseball game is going to end 1-0 or 15-14. Your great sport of soccer ends 1-0 50% of the time.

I don't need to see "stuff moving around" to be entertained.

That's funny you say that because tension is a significant ingredient in soccer... the fact a lot of games end with 1/0 makes watching a game very tense because scoring is rare so release of tension is huge when your team score and tension skyrocket when your team takes one.

[Koolaid_Man]

The Spurs Pimped A Hoe.....Fucked him....Stretched him....and then Kicked his hoe ass out on the streets

[Koolaid_Man]

Nigga out getting plowed while Kobe will be honored tonight at the Espy's.....Nigga went out like a bitch...on his knees with a bag of peanuts....the white man fucked that nigga raw...gave em what he wanted.... :lol

[Koolaid_Man]

I'm fucking all you bitches in this thread :lol

[Clipper Nation]

Popular opinion is not on your side.

Tell me what is entertaining about a 3 hour game that you could watch in 15 minutes if you took out all of the standing around, pitching changes, talks on the mound, commercials, and balls? You literally get a return on your time investment of no more than 10% watching a fatbol game.
:lol "Popular opinion"

All but one of Nickelback's albums have gone platinum, Call of Duty sells a shitload of copies every year, and the umpteenth boring sequel to a sequel from Marvel will still make bank at the box office. Floptrot is popular in many parts of the world because it's simple enough for the lowest common denominator to grasp, not because it's better than real sports like baseball.

[DAF86]

You don't refuse to accept the possibility or you don't accept the possibility? I'm not sure what you're saying.

I don't refuse to accept the possibility. To each his own, tbh.

[Will Hunting]

:lol "Popular opinion"

All but one of Nickelback's albums have gone platinum, Call of Duty sells a shitload of copies every year, and the umpteenth boring sequel to a sequel from Marvel will still make bank at the box office. Floptrot is popular in many parts of the world because it's simple enough for the lowest common denominator to grasp, not because it's better than real sports like baseball.
:lol soccer fans using popularity as an argument
:lol soccer = Kim kardashian

[Koolaid_Man]

:lol "Popular opinion"

All but one of Nickelback's albums have gone platinum, Call of Duty sells a shitload of copies every year, and the umpteenth boring sequel to a sequel from Marvel will still make bank at the box office. Floptrot is popular in many parts of the world because it's simple enough for the lowest common denominator to grasp, not because it's better than real sports like baseball.

How does my ass taste you fucking simp:lol

[Will Hunting]

I don't refuse to accept the possibility. To each his own, tbh.
:tu

FTR, I find both sports equally unappealing.

[Splits]

Tension. And it's uniqueness in the sporting landscape.


:lol tension, as if that is unique to fatbol in this debate when you're constantly berating tie scores and shootouts. The only tension I see is in their waistbands. And its gameplay is "unique" for a reason.

[midnightpulp]

Why post the individual pictures of two guys to try to make a point in this argument? That's kindergarten level debating skills. :lol

You know how easy is for me to pick the photo of one of the many overweight or old as fuck MLB players and compare it to a ripped soccer player? Wouldn't mean shit though, but it would be easy. :lol

On a MLB roster of about 30 players, a little less than half are pitchers. That's a huge handicap. And then you have the Davids Ortiz and Pablos Sandoval.

Let's check the decathlon's competitions:

100 metres - The fastest MLB player might be faster than the fastest soccer player but the many big liabilities that you can encounter in a MLB roster would bring their average way down. Winner: Soccer.

Long jump - idem. Winner: Soccer.

Shot put - I reckon this should be a competition MLB players should dominate. Winner: Baseball.

High jump - idem 1 and 2. Soccer.

400 metres - lol. Soccer.

110 metres hurdles - double lol. Soccer

Discus throw - Baseball

Pole vault - Poles would probably break on MLB players attempts :lol. Soccer

Javelin throw - I'm giving all the throwing shit to baseball although this shit and throwing a baseball aren't very similar, tbh. Baseball

1500 metres - yeah well, you know :lol Soccer

Soccer 7 - Baseball 3

Pretty clean kill, tbh. I don't know how you are going to do to try to spin this more than reasonable assumptions but I'm sure you will give it a try. Afterall, you are the only guy I know arguing that baseball players are more athletic than soccer players. :lol

You're still coming up with your predictions based on your silly idea that there's 5 Bartolo Colons on every team.

Average height/weight of an MLB player: 6'2" 190lb.

Greatest decathlete the world has ever seen (Aston Eaton): 6'1" 185.

Fun fact: You need muscle mass for explosiveness. So your idea of the "fatties" dragging down the top baseball athletes can easily be applied to the midgets and twigs dragging down the soccer squad. :lmao Messi or Valbuena running the hurdles or doing well in the high and long jump.

Another fun fact: MLB teams want position players running a 6.9 second 60 yard dash. We know Ronaldo runs 82 feet in 3.61 seconds. Do the math.

Quit thinking MLB rosters have a bunch of Colons and Sandovals on the team.

The KC Royals would absolutely murder the most athletic soccer team on the planet. You got 4 guys on that team that would rate in the top ten fastest soccer player list.

[DAF86]

When the rest of the world starts up leagues with teams that are capable of beating the NBA or MLB champions in a 7-game series, then they can call themselves the world champions.

Notice how floptrot fans never bitch about the name of the World Cup, despite the fact that many of the world's biggest and most important countries don't give a fuck about the "sport."

But they all can play it son. They try to qualify for it and shit.

Regarding the first part: teams like Barcelona and Real Madrid are more stacked than any NT team, yet when the Spanish champion is crowned they don't go around calling themselves World Champions.

[Splits]

210 teams are registered to qualify for the 2018 WC but it isn't popular :lmao

[Will Hunting]

That's why those players aren't very good.

Sandoval is on the DL. CC was in rehab, and below replacement level. Prince is a replacement level player. Colon has been below replacement level for the past 4 seasons. Other than a few outliers, the average size of an MLB player is 6'2" 190, so I don't get the "fatball" designation. It's like calling soccer "midgetball" because a few players are 5'3".

I would also argue that while being obese is never an advantage in baseball, being "thick" like David Ortiz or Miguel Cabrera is an advantage for a power hitter.

Also, people, primarily soccer fans, do think the NFL is a "joke" because there are specific positions where being obese is an advantage. I think their argument is fuckin' stupid, but I don't fetishize shredded men :lol
:lol are you seriously going to deny that CC Sabathia didn't pitch at an elite level during his prime when he was 100+ lbs overweight?

[140]

:lol tension, as if that is unique to fatbol in this debate when you're constantly berating tie scores and shootouts. The only tension I see is in their waistbands. And its gameplay is "unique" for a reason.
:lmao

[midnightpulp]

:lol tension, as if that is unique to fatbol in this debate when you're constantly berating tie scores and shootouts. The only tension I see is in their waistbands. And its gameplay is "unique" for a reason.

There's not much tension when a soccer team is down 0-1 and the best the other team can do is tie.

In baseball, you could be down 3, 4, 5 runs in the bottom of the 9th with one strike left, and you're still not safe until that last out is recorded. No shit like running out the clock, parking the bus, playing prevent defense.

And shootouts are fuckin' the height of stupidity.

:lol Let's play 120 minutes and then decide everything on a minigame!

You know if that shit sport didn't have "Euro appeal," you would hate it. I could only imagine your disgust of it if it was invented by Americans :lol

[DAF86]

You're still coming up with your predictions based on your silly idea that there's 5 Bartolo Colons on every team.

Average height/weight of an MLB player: 6'2" 190lb.

Greatest decathlete the world has ever seen (Aston Eaton): 6'1" 185.

Fun fact: You need muscle mass for explosiveness. So your idea of the "fatties" dragging down the top baseball athletes can easily be applied to the midgets and twigs dragging down the soccer squad. :lmao Messi or Valbuena running the hurdles or doing well in the high and long jump.

Another fun fact: MLB teams want position players running a 6.9 second 60 yard dash. We know Ronaldo runs 82 feet in 3.61 seconds. Do the math.

Quit thinking MLB rosters have a bunch of Colons and Sandovals on the team.

The KC Royals would absolutely murder the most athletic soccer team on the planet. You got 4 guys on that team that would rate in the top ten fastest soccer player list.

Are you trying to imply that baseball players have more muscles on their legs than soccer players? :lmao

Congrats on getting me into another mind numbing discussion that only you think it's arguable, tbh. :lol

And FYI, some of the most basic training methods in soccer include hurdle running.

[midnightpulp]

:lol are you seriously going to deny that CC Sabathia didn't pitch at an elite level during his prime when he was 100+ lbs overweight?

Doesn't look 100lb overweight to me here

http://www.psacard.com/resourceimages/cc-sabathia-signed-photo-3.jpg

But again, how does fat=unathletic/unskilled?

[midnightpulp]

Are you trying to imply that baseball players have more muscles on their legs than soccer players? :lmao

Congrats on getting me into another mind numbing discussion that only you think it's arguable, tbh. :lol

And FYI, some of the most basic training methods in soccer include hurdle running.

I don't know. We can only quantify this with performance, and the faster sprinters and higher leapers are in baseball, as I've proven to you many times over, but you just keep handwaving away while posting pictures of Bartolo Colon.

[DAF86]

I don't know. We can only quantify this with performance, and the faster sprinters and higher leapers are in baseball, as I've proven to you many times over, but you just keep handwaving away while posting pictures of Bartolo Colon.

Since you are able to come up with all this meassurements. Can you come up with some of thos numbers but of an entire MLB roster, not just the elite athletes?

[Splits]

There's not much tension when a soccer team is down 0-1 and the best the other team can do is tie.

In baseball, you could be down 3, 4, 5 runs in the bottom of the 9th with one strike left, and you're still not safe until that last out is recorded. No shit like running out the clock, parking the bus, playing prevent defense.


In the Euro Cup there were 20 goals in 51 matches scored after the 85th minute. :cry but park the bus is unstoppable :cry

If a fatbol game is going into the 9th inning and a team has a 3+ run lead, 80% of the fans are in their cars by the time some no named scrub finishes taking his warm up pitches and the other 20% are either family or fell asleep. Tension!

[midnightpulp]

Since you are able to come up with all this meassurements. Can you come up with some of thos numbers but of an entire MLB roster, not just the elite athletes?

Statcast is a relatively new feature, but I can try.

KC Royals:

Sprint speed

Eric Hosmer (6'4", 225ln): 21.4 mph

Lorenzo Cain (6'2", 205): 21 mph

Jarrod Dyson (5'9", 160): 21.5 mph

Alcides Escobar: (6'1", 185): 20.0 mph

Paulo Orlando (6'2", 210): I don't have stats on him, but the Royals bring him as a speedy baserunner, and I would estimate his speed in the 20-21mph range.

Alex Gordon (6'1", 205): 18.7 mph

Vert is harder to estimate, because they don't track it yet, but I know Cain, Escobar, and Gordon have hops.

Sports Science actually measure Cain's in game vert:


Sports Science measured Lorenzo Cain’s vertical leap at 39 inches,

[midnightpulp]

In the Euro Cup there were 20 goals in 51 matches scored after the 85th minute. :cry but park the bus is unstoppable :cry

If a fatbol game is going into the 9th inning and a team has a 3+ run lead, 80% of the fans are in their cars by the time some no named scrub finishes taking his warm up pitches and the other 20% are either family or fell asleep. Tension!

They are?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7UEri4DrY8

5 run 9th inning comeback, in Minnesota during fuckin' June, and the stadium looked more than 20% filled to me.

That's a COMEBACK.

In soccer, it's a miracle when they comeback from 0-1 :lmao


Take the most common final score, for example. In 188,060 league games,2 the final tally was most often 1-0, proof, for Curley, that soccer was as low-scoring as he suspected. This result has occurred in more than 30,000 games — 16 percent of the total. Other common scores: 2-1 (about 27,000 games), 2-0 (about 22,000) and 1-1 (about 22,000).

In 85,694 games — dangerously close to half the total — at least one of the teams forgot to score at all. That led Curley to an answer for one of his questions: “Soccer is a bit dull,” he told me.

:lmao

:cry But they're jogging around :cry

[poeticism707]

MLB pitchers dont average 9 innigns a game bro. Stop kidding yourself.

Plus I jack off and lose 1000 calories too..Hands get sore doesnt mean masturbating is a real sport.

:rollin :rollin :rollin

[midnightpulp]

Look at this garbage.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8yKCmnm9xk

And they're chanting like maniacs for that bullshit.

"They're doing it to preserve the draw, though."

And that's exactly why the sport's design is stuck in the stone ages. Basketball at least has the shot clock and/or intentional fouling to somewhat guard against cheap clock killing tactics. The NFL has the turnover on down/play clock feature (although I do think kneeling down to run out the clock is faggotry). Hockey's rink size is too small to allow for it. And in baseball, each teams gets 27 outs.

Soccer, such an "enlightening" sport.

[Clipper Nation]

Floptrot is the one "sport" where being conservative and playing not to lose is not only praised, but actually works most of the time. In contrast, when football coaches start calling predictable run-run-pass-punt drives in the fourth quarter of a relatively close game, fans look on in horror and brace themselves for the meltdown that's about to happen.

Another reason why floptrot sucks hind tit compared to actual sports.

[Splits]

They are?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7UEri4DrY8

5 run 9th inning comeback, in Minnesota during fuckin' June, and the stadium looked more than 20% filled to me.

That's a COMEBACK.

In soccer, it's a miracle when they comeback from 0-1 :lmao


In the Euro Cup (held every 4 years) that just ended, the winning goal in the tourney final was scored in extra time.

When you play 162 :lmao games a year by 30 teams, it is simple to cherry pick, as you have done. I bet you weren't watching that game live. The last "world" series game 7 comeback was 15 years ago and I bet there are no more than 5 in over 100 year history.

[midnightpulp]

In the Euro Cup (held every 4 years) that just ended, the winning goal in the tourney final was scored in extra time.

When you play 162 :lmao games a year by 30 teams, it is simple to cherry pick, as you have done. I bet you weren't watching that game live. The last "world" series game 7 comeback was 15 years ago and I bet there are no more than 5 in over 100 year history.

There was no comeback in that shitty Euro game. It was a predictable 0-0 snorefest for nearly 2 hours until a goal was scored.

Why are you cherry picking only World Series Games and game 7s?

Down to their last out twice and facing a 2 run deficit each time :wow

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/SLN/SLN201110270.shtml

Game 7 comeback (Cards were down 0-2 after the first, an insurmountable lead in floptrot :lol):

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/SLN/SLN201110280.shtml

Game 7 comeback

http://www.baseball-reference.com/postseason/2002_WS.shtml

Another

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/ARI/ARI200111040.shtml

Another

http://www.baseball-reference.com/postseason/1997_WS.shtml

That's 4 WS game 7 comebacks in the past 19 seasons.

That's not counting all the game 5 and 7 comebacks in the LDS and LCS rounds.

Now go look at your floptrot tournament, and you will find only 3 instances of a comeback. And there were 84 matches :lmao

Should we compare baseball's comeback ratio to that?

[midnightpulp]

Floptrot is the one "sport" where being conservative and playing not to lose is not only praised, but actually works most of the time. In contrast, when football coaches start calling predictable run-run-pass-punt drives in the fourth quarter of a relatively close game, fans look on in horror and brace themselves for the meltdown that's about to happen.

Another reason why floptrot sucks hind tit compared to actual sports.

Yep. And it's a worry.


Above all, however, the falling number of goals should worry soccer players and fans. It looks like in several decades, soccer could be in danger of a “draw death,” in which a substantial number of games end with no score and a single goal is usually enough to decide the match.

Right now, the draw rate in the EPL is at 30%. That's too much by well-designed American sports standards, but they run around, so...

Reasons soccer is a relevant sport:

- British Imperialism (surprised Splits loves it so much considering how much blood the Brits spilled "sharing" their game).

- Cheap to play.

[Splits]

Why are you cherry picking only World Series Games and game 7s?


Game 7s are the only time either team has a chance to go home champs, the epitome of intrigue and suspense. Football guarantees it every tourney. Fatball you're lucky to get it once every 5 years.

Look Mid, I'm the only one in this debate who has been a fan immersed in both sports. I am even predisposed to fatbal bias because I grew up a fanatic. You're more than qualified to try to explain why b:lolisbal doesn't suck, but you're not qualified to try and explain why football does. It took me a good year living overseas to "get it". Get back to me when you've given it a chance.

[Xevious]

How much calories can you burn playing baseball?
How many English can you speak?

[midnightpulp]

Game 7s are the only time either team has a chance to go home champs, the epitome of intrigue and suspense. Football guarantees it every tourney. Fatball you're lucky to get it once every 5 years.

Look Mid, I'm the only one in this debate who has been a fan immersed in both sports. I am even predisposed to fatbal bias because I grew up a fanatic. You're more than qualified to try to explain why b:lolisbal doesn't suck, but you're not qualified to try and explain why football does. It took me a good year living overseas to "get it". Get back to me when you've given it a chance.

The World Series isn't the only relevant playoff round. Do you only watch the Spurs in the Finals?

And your same argument about game 7s can be levied at basketball, since the game 7 occurrence ratio is about the same.

Since 1997, there's been 4 WS Game 7s.

Since 1997, there's been 4 NBA Finals Game 7s.

I also disagree on the "one game win or go home" idea. It's why I find the NFL playoffs the least compelling. There's no back-and-forth like you get with a game 7 series.

I was somewhat of a soccer fan growing up. Bought FIFA every year. Had a moderate understanding of the "tactics". Watched the World Cup, from qualifying to knockouts. And contrary to your belief, I don't hate the game. Here's why I lost interest:

- Low comeback factor. I like the drama of punch-counterpunch-punch-punch-counterpunch-knockout.

In soccer, you get one knockout punch most of time. And you rarely get epic collapses (team blowing more than a 2 or 3 goal lead)

- Fouls in the box are disproportionate.

A lot of the times, the player didn't even have a goal scoring chance, so to award a team a 90% chance of scoring in a game where goals are at such a high premium makes no sense.

- Penalty shootouts.

Silly way to decide a game after 120 minutes of intense play.

- Diving

Enough said.

- Lack of controlled possession.

3 passes here. Kicked away. Pass. Kicked away. 2 passes. Kicked away. Rinse repeat.

I don't hate it. Just largely indifferent to it now.

What did you "get" over in Europe? And how does liking soccer translate into a hatred of American sports aside from basketball?

[Mark Celibate]

Some baseball games may last long as hell though. Even watching such games can be a tiring course sometimes tbh.

[midnightpulp]

Out of curiosity, I wanted to know Prince Fielder's, who is a favorite target of the soccer crew, top speed recorded.

18.2 mph


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_YDMahLB_M

For context, the 10th fastest top speed recorded in last season's EPL was 18.7mph :lmao

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/fastest-footballer-world-is-5731457

Baseball athletes are truly a wonder. :wow