if you had a kid and wanted to stay fit, what sport would you grt them to play?

[apalisoc_9]

A. Baseball

B. Dodgeball

C. Curling

[AlexJones]

Baseball, not close

[Splits]

trick question, none of those are sports

[JohnnyMax]

D. Posting on Spurstalk

[K...]

E. UFC

[Relevancy]

Holy fuck I just searched up what curling was and:lmao at least baseball is not alone in the most pathetic sports list

you burn some calories in all those three sports for sure though, in baseball you at least have to be sprinting to the bases.. 20 calories max imo.

[Sean Cagney]

Holy fuck I just searched up what curling was and:lmao at least baseball is not alone in the most pathetic sports list

you burn some calories in all those three sports for sure though, in baseball you at least have to be sprinting to the bases.. 20 calories max imo.

TBH some short stops and outfielders are in great shape though, unlike some catchers, 1B and fat ass pitchers :lol I wonder also if there is anything more pathetic than a fat ass DH hitter? :lol

[K...]

TBH some short stops and outfielders are in great shape though, unlike some catchers, 1B and fat ass pitchers :lol I wonder also if there is anything more pathetic than a fat ass DH hitter? :lol


Certain posters on this forum tbh.

[Chris]

Baseball tbh Nice safe non contact sport and I don't have to worry about my kid juicing and lifting weights at an early age potentially stunting their growth.

[Relevancy]

TBH some short stops and outfielders are in great shape though, unlike some catchers, 1B and fat ass pitchers :lol I wonder also if there is anything more pathetic than a fat ass DH hitter? :lolseriously my respect to those in baseball that take care of their bodies tbh..

all that standing around will do that to you though.

[K...]

seriously my respect to those in baseball that take care of their bodies tbh..

all that standing around will do that to you though.

Most of them do other sports for cardio.

[140]

Most of them do other sports for cardio.
:lmao

[Clipper Nation]

Any actual sport (i.e. not floptrot).

[Koolaid_Man]

Hide and go get with their opposite sex cousins..... But there better not be any dry humping going on...or else I will have them go pick a switch off a tree....

[spurraider21]

trick question, none of those are sports

[spurraider21]

pokemon go tbh

[Cry Havoc]

Swimming or cycling. Both are extremely low impact and some of the best cardio you can get.

Swimmers tend to be much more muscular though, but either one is better than dealing with a 400 pound 12 year old.

[Thread]

Swimming or cycling. Both are extremely low impact and some of the best cardio you can get.

Swimmers tend to be much more muscular though, but either one is better than dealing with a 400 pound 12 year old.

- "They're an easy mark though."

- baseline bum

[Arcadian]

If you're concerned about injuries, don't underestimate baseball... A fastball to the head, neck, chest, or nuts will fuck you up permanently.

[Sean Cagney]

[/B]

Certain posters on this forum tbh.
Okay designated hitter, I see what you were bolding there. It technically already has hitter in it..... Oh well I still mean the DH.

That being said some baseball players are or were in phenomenal shape, mostly outfielders and short stops (Henderson was in his prime too, great athlete). They are great athletes but as some said do most of the working out on their own time to stay in shape obviously.

[Robz4000]

Swimming or cycling. Both are extremely low impact and some of the best cardio you can get.

Swimmers tend to be much more muscular though, but either one is better than dealing with a 400 pound 12 year old.

Swimming seconded

[Fabbs]

Would be all for the swimming recommendation but do not chemical grossness and gawd knows what else in public pools skeeve you at all?

One of many: cdc.gov/healthywater/swimming/aquatics-professionals/chloramines.html

[DMC]

Curling is cool as fuck (no pun intended).

Where else you going to get physically fit bull dyke women to sweep the fuck out of the floor while one of them screams "haaard.. haaaard"

[dav4463]

Disc Golf and Tennis

[Thebesteva]

Wait...I'm high as fuck but do you mean if the kid wants to stay fit or you?

[midnightpulp]

Baseball.

The floptrot crew still doesn't understand that you need to workout a fuck-ton to get in the necessary shape to hit a ball with the necessary exit velocity that will challenge the defense, to have sprint speed capable of beating out throws, to throw a ball anywhere from 85-105 mph.

":cry Buy some players are fat :cry"

Killshot time.

Here's the top sprint speeds of some the floptrot crew's favorite targets:

Pablo Sandoval: 18.4 mph
Prince Fielder: 18.2 mph
David Ortiz (at age 40): 16.4 mph

To put that in perspective compared to "amazing" floptrot athletes, the 10th fastest recorded sprint time in the EPL last year (2015) was 18.7 mph (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/fastest-footballer-world-is-5731457). The fact that some of the fattest and least athletic players in baseball are nearly as fast as the top 10-20 fastest floptrot players shows how pathetically athletic soccer players really are. Like I've always said, soccer is (light) aerobics with a ball involved, and even old women can do aerobics :lol

[313]

Boxing, Soccer and basketball.

[midnightpulp]

Here's the true regimen any parent should encourage their child to do to build all around "fitness."

Handeye coordination/upper body strength/nerve (baseball gets a kid used to spotlight pressure situations, since every play in baseball is basically that): Baseball

Lateral quickness\stamina\jumping ability: Basketball

Sprinting\Endurance: Football

Learning tolerance for homosexuals: Soccer

[apalisoc_9]

Lol...sure. I'm sure we all want fat kids with strobg arms...:lmao

Such athlete. :lol

[midnightpulp]

Lol...sure. I'm sure we all want fat kids with strobg arms...:lmao

Such athlete. :lol

Baseball players aren't fat, though.

Average size in the MLB is 6'2", 190lb.

Average size in the EPL is 5'9.5", 170.

Roughly the same BMI.

Time to pick a new meme, Poke Master.

[midnightpulp]

Final fun fact of the day.

Slowest non-keeper player in the EPL - Sandro: 16.28 mph

Bartolo Colon's top sprint speed this season: 16.2 mph

:lmao

And keep in mind the way they measure the sprint speed of soccer players is with sensor gates at 40m apart, meaning that the soccer player will often have more ground to work with to reach top speed (this is why a floptrot player measured faster than Usain Bolt over 40m compared to Bolt's first 40m of the 100m). The sprint speeds of baseball players are usually measured from a dead stop over 90 feet. Takes about 160 feet for a sprinter to reach his top speed.

[Ball Buster]

I'd encourage my kid to play a whole lot more than soccer, that's for sure. It's a nice game for Euro's and Middle Easterner's... not our game, not our passion

[Splits]

756263005189529600

look at this fat fuck (video at the link)

:lol probably drunk
:lol fatbol only game other than bowling where it doesn't matter if you're drunk
:lol fried chicken and beer in the clubhouse during games
:lol going to the clubhouse to fill your gatorade cup with beer

[midnightpulp]

756263005189529600

:lol look at this fat fuck (video at the link)

Hey Splits.

Check this out.

Average 40 yard dash for an MLB player (converted from the average 60 yard dash time): 4.69 seconds.

Average vertical leap of an MLB player: 28".

Ronaldo, the best floptrot "athlete" the world has ever seen.

40 yard dash: 4.7 seconds

Vertical: 30"

:lmao

No clue why you think those twinks that lightly jog around a field for 90 minutes are great athletes.

[Splits]

Just make shit up, Mid.

[midnightpulp]

Just make shit up, Mid.

I don't understand your skepticism, nor your perception that baseball players are fat and unathletic when you were supposedly a baseball fan growing up in the 80's (I'm assuming) watching the likes of Bo Jackson, Rickey Henderson, Ozzie Smith, pre-roid Bonds, Willie McGee, Devon White, Tim Raines, Daryl Strawberry, Kevin Mitchell, Will Clark, Ken Griffey Jr. I can go on. You should know better than anyone that players like Sabathia and Colon are exceptions.

Are you going to call basketball "unathletic ball" because Tim Duncan, who probably hasn't jumped higher than 10 inches in 5 years and would probably post a 7 second 40 yard dash time was an elite player last season?

As for "making shit up."

http://oi63.tinypic.com/ivamxg.jpg

The average body fat percentage of an MLB player is 13.8%. Average body fat percentage for a soccer player is around 10:


The non-Caucasian players demonstrated significantly lower percent body fat (9.2 +/- 2.0%) than the Caucasian players (10.7 +/- 1.8%).

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19847685

Average 60 yard dash time for an MLB player is 7.0 seconds.


Most Major League Baseball (MLB) clubs look for times under 7.00 seconds. A 60 yard dash time between 6.7 – 6.9 usually equate to an average runner on the playing field

40 yards is 67% of 60 yards. Do the math and the works out to covering 40 yards in about 4.69 seconds.

Any questions?

[Splits]

I don't understand your skepticism, nor your perception that baseball players are fat and unathletic when you were supposedly a baseball fan growing up in the 80's (I'm assuming) watching the likes of Bo Jackson, Rickey Henderson, Ozzie Smith, pre-roid Bonds, Willie McGee, Devon White, Tim Raines, Daryl Strawberry, Kevin Mitchell, Will Clark, Ken Griffey Jr. I can go on. You should know better than anyone that players like Sabathia and Colon are exceptions.

Are you going to call basketball "unathletic ball" because Tim Duncan, who probably hasn't jumped higher than 10 inches in 5 years and would probably post a 7 second 40 yard dash time was an elite player last season?

As for "making shit up."

http://oi63.tinypic.com/ivamxg.jpg

The average body fat percentage of an MLB player is 13.8%. Average body fat percentage for a soccer player is around 10:



http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19847685

Average 60 yard dash time for an MLB player is 7.0 seconds.



40 yards is 67% of 60 yards. Do the math and the works out to covering 40 yards in about 4.69 seconds.

Any questions?

Do you know what "lean body mass" is? Why do you claim the average fatbol player is 6'1" 192lb?

[Splits]

And if being 6'1" and heading a ball 9'4" is a 30 inch vertical, well then, Ok.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bp2F5SKCUAAp5q4.png

http://static6.businessinsider.com/image/53986422eab8ea9963491169/ronaldo-jump.gif

[midnightpulp]

Do you know what "lean body mass" is? Why do you claim the average fatbol player is 6'1" 192lb?

Of course.

Still doesn't change the fact the average MLB player has 13.8% body fat. I know you're just going to completely ignore that fact since it doesn't fit your trolling narrative, though.

I also don't care what the total weight of a baseball player is. BMI is a fuckin' terrible metric to determine overall fitness. That's why I highlighted body fat percentage, which is only 3% higher than the "shredded" floptrot players you worship.

Gonna keep spinning?

[midnightpulp]

And if being 6'1" and heading a ball 9'4" is a 30 inch vertical, well then, Ok.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bp2F5SKCUAAp5q4.png

http://static6.businessinsider.com/image/53986422eab8ea9963491169/ronaldo-jump.gif

They tested Ronaldo's vert in strict laboratory conditions, which I trust much more than photos and video that can be subject to optical illusions. And if you look closely at the goal post picture, the crown of Ronaldo's head is about even with the bottom of the crossbar.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCtI6uxbTho

They also estimated his jump in that gif you posted:


With a bigger run-up against Man Utd, Ronaldo climbed approximately 2ft 8in off the ground. It was a talent he showed in a United shirt too, scoring (above) against Chelsea with a similar header.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2278671/Cristiano-Ronaldo-Why-Real-Madrid-player-jump-higher-else.html#ixzz4F5fsvAZs
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

32" inches :lmao

[Splits]

They tested Ronaldo's vert in strict laboratory conditions, which I trust much more than photos and video that can be subject to optical illusions. And if you look closely at the goal post picture, the crown of Ronaldo's head is about even with the bottom of the crossbar.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCtI6uxbTho

They also estimated his jump in that gif you posted:



32" inches :lmao

From your video: "78 centimeter, which is higher than the average NBA basketball player"

[Splits]

Of course.

Still doesn't change the fact the average MLB player has 13.8% body fat. I know you're just going to completely ignore that fact since it doesn't fit your trolling narrative, though.

I also don't care what the total weight of a baseball player is. BMI is a fuckin' terrible metric to determine overall fitness. That's why I highlighted body fat percentage, which is only 3% higher than the "shredded" floptrot players you worship.

Gonna keep spinning?

Spinning? At least I'm not flat out lying:


the average size of an MLB player is 6'2" 190, so I don't get the "fatball" designation.

The average fatballer is 6'1" 223lbs by your own data, yet you choose to post the "lean body mass" which is weight without all that fucking fat :lmao

And 13.8% body fat vs. 10% body fat is not "3%" fatter it is 27.5% fatter :lmao

But just keep making shit up, scra.

[midnightpulp]

From your video: "78 centimeter, which is higher than the average NBA basketball player"

Yes. The average NBA vert is 28". Same as the average MLB vert. 78 cm=30.7".

But you do realize 40 percent of NBA players are bigs (Cs or PFs), like Duncan, Dirk, old KG, Bogut, the Gasols, Hibbert, Baynes, Splitter, Z-Bo, Al Jefferson etc, etc who can't jump worth a shit and bring down the overall average?

Ronaldo is supposed to be soccer's best leaper, so comparing his vert to an average is disingenuous.

That's why I don't get your strategy of citing the CCs and Colons in the MLB to denigrate the athleticism of baseball players, when the NBA has some very unathletic lops at the big positions who get by on skill and knowledge (like Colon and CC do).

You love rugby, right? Is rugby an unathletic game or filled with "fat" players because this guy was an elite player?

http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I00008F06a.FNBd8/s/800/800/DL140201hr-061.jpg

[midnightpulp]

Spinning? At least I'm not flat out lying:



The average fatballer is 6'1" 223lbs by your own data, yet you choose to post the "lean body mass" which is weight without all that fucking fat :lmao

And 13.8% body fat vs. 10% body fat is not "3%" fatter it is 27.5% fatter :lmao

But just keep making shit up, scra.

Again, who cares?

13.8% is considered an "athletic" build.

http://www.freebodyfatcalculator.org/13.8/

Still gonna keep spinning and call it fatball when the data proves you wrong?

Might as well call floptrot skinny fatball then because so many players in the game have builds like this:

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z231/Hekko_photo/FranckRibery.jpg

[lefty]

Revoke their US citizenship

[Splits]

Yes. The average NBA vert is 28". Same as the average MLB vert. 78 cm=30.7".

But you do realize 40 percent of NBA players are bigs (Cs or PFs), like Duncan, Dirk, old KG, Bogut, the Gasols, Hibbert, Baynes, Splitter, Z-Bo, Al Jefferson etc, etc who can't jump worth a shit and bring down the overall average?

Ronaldo is supposed to be soccer's best leaper, so comparing his vert to an average is disingenuous.

That's why I don't get your strategy of citing the CCs and Colons in the MLB to denigrate the athleticism of baseball players, when the NBA has some very unathletic lops at the big positions who get by on skill and knowledge (like Colon and CC do).

You love rugby, right? Is rugby an unathletic game or filled with "fat" players because this guy was an elite player?



Jumping is not an integral part of football like it is basketball. Plus the technique is different, you have to keep your arms by your side which is obviously going to limit your max since you're not using the momentum of your torso to max your height like in basketball. You can even see it in that video, look at his form.

Rugby sucks.

[lefty20]

Tennis is definitely the best sport for kids.

[Splits]

Again, who cares?

13.8% is considered an "athletic" build.

http://www.freebodyfatcalculator.org/13.8/

Still gonna keep spinning and call it fatball when the data proves you wrong?

Might as well call floptrot skinny fatball then because so many players in the game have builds like this:



I care when you post "facts" of 6'2" 190 when the reality is 6'1" 223

And :lol your link. 13.8 is the end of the "athlete" spectrum :lmao

:lol decathaletes at 6'1" 223lbs

[midnightpulp]

I care when you post "facts" of 6'2" 190 when the reality is 6'1" 223

And :lol your link. 13.8 is the end of the "athlete" spectrum :lmao

:lol decathaletes at 6'1" 223lbs

Again, overall weight doesn't matter since BMI is worthless.

And :lol now that you were proven wrong, you're shifting from "they're all fat" to "end of the athletic spectrum!"

And :lol thinking there's a significant difference between 10% and 14%.

Looks in pretty athletic shape to me (despite the bird chest and chicken legs):

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/b1/c5/73/b1c573a965d27fc35714db29f0e9dc25.jpg

Better than Rooney, Ribery, Messi, and a host of others.

[Splits]

Again, overall weight doesn't matter since BMI is worthless.

And :lol now that you were proven wrong, you're shifting from "they're all fat" to "end of the athletic spectrum!"


Who was proven wrong? Mind going to modify all your posts claiming "MLB average size is 6'2" 190lbs" to 6'1" 223lbs?

[midnightpulp]

Jumping is not an integral part of football like it is basketball. Plus the technique is different, you have to keep your arms by your side which is obviously going to limit your max since you're not using the momentum of your torso to max your height like in basketball. You can even see it in that video, look at his form.

Rugby sucks.

Yeah, but we don't know how many inches you might gain using your arms vs. not using them.

[midnightpulp]

Who was proven wrong? Mind going to modify all your posts claiming "MLB average size is 6'2" 190lbs" to 6'1" 223lbs?

Honest question? Why does this matter? It doesn't give your side of the argument any additional ammunition. If you're into fitness like you claim, you know BMI is meaningless.

Bryce Harper is 6'2" 230lb. Does he look fat to you?

https://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/harperespn.png?w=1000

My essential point remains the same. Baseball players aren't fat as proven by the average 13.8% body fat, the only meaningful metric in this case. Anyhow, I wasn't being intellectually dishonest since I got that initial number from here:


The average height of a major league player has increased almost 7% since the 1870's, from 68.9 inches to 73.7 inches. In terms of weight, the average ballplayer is almost 14% heavier than the average player in the 1870's, increasing from 167.3 lbs to 190.6 lbs.Apr 19, 2011

The average size can also fluctuate from season-to-season.

Look how NBA players "shrunk" 2" and lost 10 pounds from 09 to 10.

http://dbcgmp5q1c16s.cloudfront.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/04102150/Average-Height2.png

http://dbcgmp5q1c16s.cloudfront.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/04103239/Average-Weight.png

[140]

:wow Damn, my nigga Splits exposing the fraudulent fatbol crew arguments ITT


Keep it up tbh scro :tu

[140]

756263005189529600

look at this fat fuck (video at the link)

:lol probably drunk
:lol fatbol only game other than bowling where it doesn't matter if you're drunk
:lol fried chicken and beer in the clubhouse during games
:lol going to the clubhouse to fill your gatorade cup with beer
:lmao:lmao:lmao

[midnightpulp]

Anyhow, to put the knife in this debate, I'd rank the quality of athletes in each sport as:

Peak athleticism (which sport has the best individual athletes):

1. NFL
2. NBA
3. MLB
4. Soccer

Average overall athleticism:

1. NBA
2. MLB
3. NFL (the morbidly obese O and D lines really bring down the NFL's average athleticism)
4. Soccer

Soccer crew ain't going to like that, but there's no evidence to suggest otherwise. Soccer players are actually rather slow compared to the sprint averages we see in top 3 American sports. They have comparatively low vertical leaps. Their upper body strength would lag far behind the athletes in the other 3 sports. And I have serious doubts a soccer player's overall leg strength would be superior to the athletes in the other sports, considering the vert and sprint marks of the average soccer player. I will give soccer players the edge in lateral quickness, but that's it.

"Stamina."

I don't rate feats of stamina highly. ANYONE can do them. This guy completed a 10K run (about the average distance a soccer player covers in game) in, drumroll, 90 minutes....at 102 years old :lmao

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fauja_Singh

Yeah, yeah, I know he likely didn't sprint, but soccer players maybe sprint 10-20% of the time for short bursts. They are not sprinting full bore for 90 minutes.

That said, I respect the skills of soccer players, but they aren't magical athletic specimens because they can jog, walk, and occasionally sprint over 90 minutes.

[apalisoc_9]

Anyhow, to put the knife in this debate, I'd rank the quality of athletes in each sport as:

Peak athleticism (which sport has the best individual athletes):

1. NFL
2. NBA
3. MLB
4. Soccer

Average overall athleticism:

1. NBA
2. MLB
3. NFL (the morbidly obese O and D lines really bring down the NFL's average athleticism)
4. Soccer

Soccer crew ain't going to like that, but there's no evidence to suggest otherwise. Soccer players are actually rather slow compared to the sprint averages we see in top 3 American sports. They have comparatively low vertical leaps. Their upper body strength would lag far behind the athletes in the other 3 sports. And I have serious doubts a soccer player's overall leg strength would be superior to the athletes in the other sports, considering the vert and sprint marks of the average soccer player. I will give soccer players the edge in lateral quickness, but that's it.

"Stamina."

I don't rate feats of stamina highly. ANYONE can do them. This guy completed a 10K run (about the average distance a soccer player covers in game) in, drumroll, 90 minutes....at 102 years old :lmao

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fauja_Singh

Yeah, yeah, I know he likely didn't sprint, but soccer players maybe sprint 10-20% of the time for short bursts. They are not sprinting full bore for 90 minutes.

That said, I respect the skills of soccer players, but they aren't magical athletic specimens because they can jog, walk, and occasionally sprint over 90 minutes.

I appreciate you making a "sport whose athletes are likely going to have a heart attack" list..but it's not needed in this discussion.

[midnightpulp]

:wow Damn, my nigga Splits exposing the fraudulent fatbol crew arguments ITT


Keep it up tbh scro :tu

Yeah, exposed them by shifting from "they're all fat" to "13.8% body fat is really not that good!"

Never mind the fact that a person with that amount of body fat will look more "shredded" than something like this:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/07/15/article-1294872-0A5D21FD000005DC-798_306x438.jpg

Rooney is probably around 18-20% there.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/4e/4a/13/4e4a135332e2fbe44e787958c2d3d787.jpg

[midnightpulp]

I appreciate you making a "sport whose athletes are likely going to have a heart attack" list..but it's not needed in this discussion.

:lol Having no argument so you resort to memes.

Find me a floptrot "athlete" on the level of this guy:

http://superiorathleticsnewyork.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/giancarlo-stanton-workout.jpg

- 6'6", 240lb
- 4.5 40 yard dash time
- 35" vertical
- Can hit a baseball 500 feet

Ronaldo and his 30" vertical and 4.7 40 :lmao

[140]

Yeah, exposed them by shifting from "they're all fat" to "13.8% body fat is really not that good!"

Never mind the fact that a person with that amount of body fat will look more "shredded" than something like this:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/07/15/article-1294872-0A5D21FD000005DC-798_306x438.jpg

Rooney is probably around 18-20% there.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/4e/4a/13/4e4a135332e2fbe44e787958c2d3d787.jpg
:lmao bringing up rooney again :lmao

[DMC]

Wait...I'm high as fuck but do you mean if the kid wants to stay fit or you?


^"I'm a doctor"

[DMC]

Yeah, exposed them by shifting from "they're all fat" to "13.8% body fat is really not that good!"

Never mind the fact that a person with that amount of body fat will look more "shredded" than something like this:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/07/15/article-1294872-0A5D21FD000005DC-798_306x438.jpg

Rooney is probably around 18-20% there.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/4e/4a/13/4e4a135332e2fbe44e787958c2d3d787.jpg

So when you 're 8% body fat, you automatically look more tan? I mean, yeah, of course I knew that.

[Thebesteva]

^"I'm a doctor"
DMC...ok ok i apologize...i just wanted to feel like i made it just for once. I got to piss in a bag man

[Relevancy]

you have to admit you need real strength to hit the ball in baseball, the thing is that homeruns rarely occur..most of the time hitters just seem to be depending on luck to hit a ball.. Baseball is more boring to watch than football, american football and baseball go head to head as the most boring sports to watch.

but again I ain't gonna lie you need strength in baseball but whenever I watch the MLB and see a fat dude I change the channel, you're never gonna find a fatso in football on top teams.. the majority of them live a strict and healthy life, get plenty of sleep and all of that.. Probably the most healthy athlete out there.

[Clipper Nation]

:lol "Luck"

Let's get you in a batting cage and see how "lucky" you get. Keep in mind that hitters are going up against professional pitchers who can throw a ball 90+ mph and are trying to get them out. They're not going to serve up hits and homers on a silver platter all the time. Luck has nothing to do with it - it's a matter of skill vs. skill, and whose skill wins out.

What baseball haters don't seem to get is that pitching and defense can be just as entertaining as offense. Yes, it's fun to watch an electric offense pile up runs on the scoreboard. But it's also fun to watch a tense pitchers' duel in October, or players like Travis Pillar, George Springer and Alex Gordon pull off Web Gems in the field.

[midnightpulp]

you have to admit you need real strength to hit the ball in baseball, the thing is that homeruns rarely occur..most of the time hitters just seem to be depending on luck to hit a ball.. Baseball is more boring to watch than football, american football and baseball go head to head as the most boring sports to watch.

but again I ain't gonna lie you need strength in baseball but whenever I watch the MLB and see a fat dude I change the channel, you're never gonna find a fatso in football on top teams.. the majority of them live a strict and healthy life, get plenty of sleep and all of that.. Probably the most healthy athlete out there.

I don't get floptrot fans obsession with weight/physique?

If you want to get critical in that regard, this guy's body is absolute shit. Almost non-existent muscle tone. Looks like he never lifted a weight in his life.

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z231/Hekko_photo/FranckRibery.jpg

Oh, but he's "skinny" and therefore "fit."

Furthermore, being fat does not keep you from being fit. Rugby is a far more demanding game regarding stamina and endurance (tackling a 250lb beast without pads is a lot more tiring than jogging around for 30 seconds), and a lot of rugby players look like this.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/47243000/jpg/_47243921_jacobsen282.jpg

And :lol hitting is based on luck. You really don't know what you're talking about.

[Splits]

the average size of an MLB player is 6'2" 190, so I don't get the "fatball" designation.

Whenever you read anything Mid has to say about beisb:loll, just remember this lie.

By his own data, the average fatballer is 6'1" 223lbs with 14% body fat. Yet he chooses to lie while defending the fatties.

[midnightpulp]

:lol "Luck"

Let's get you in a batting cage and see how "lucky" you get. Keep in mind that hitters are going up against professional pitchers who can throw a ball 90+ mph and are trying to get them out. They're not going to serve up hits and homers on a silver platter all the time. Luck has nothing to do with it - it's a matter of skill vs. skill, and whose skill wins out.

What baseball haters don't seem to get is that pitching and defense can be just as entertaining as offense. Yes, it's fun to watch an electric offense pile up runs on the scoreboard. But it's also fun to watch a tense pitchers' duel in October, or players like Travis Pillar, George Springer and Alex Gordon pull off Web Gems in the field.

Most baseball haters are people who never played the game, so they don't really understand the extreme degree of difficulty in such common baseball actions as fielding a routine groundball at 3rd base and throwing a speedy runner out. It looks easy on TV and you really don't get the scale of the dimensions involved. A routine throw from 3rd to 1st can be anywhere from 130 to 100 feet. That's nearly half the distance of a football field on the top end and longer than a basketball court on the bottom end. Get one of the soccer crew to try to make that throw, and they probably ain't making it past the pitcher's mound on the fly :lol

Even the super-common action of throwing 95 mph fastballs is pretty amazing. Krapernick has one of the strongest arms in the NFL (rated 2 overall) and his fastball topped out at 90mph.

And then you see shit like this and it's just mindblowing, far more mindblowing and impressive than one of Wardell's cute little stepback 3's from 30 feet.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkYrT5arGVw

[midnightpulp]

Whenever you read anything Mid has to say about beisb:loll, just remember this lie.

By his own data, the average fatballer is 6'1" 223lbs with 14% body fat. Yet he chooses to lie while defending the fatties.

You're still spinning with this shit?

I guess you're taking the Da_Suns_Fan angle of blowing up an insignificant oversight and acting like it undermines the whole argument.

Here's some simple questions, and if you're intellectually as honest as you proclaim, you'll answer them unbiasedly.

1. Is 13.8% considered "fat" by any health metric in existence?

(if no)

2. How does your "fatball" description make sense when the average MLB player has that body fat percentage?

I await some sort of deflection, but I will hold out hope that I'm pleasantly surprised.

[DJR210]

Would be all for the swimming recommendation but do not chemical grossness and gawd knows what else in public pools skeeve you at all?

One of many: cdc.gov/healthywater/swimming/aquatics-professionals/chloramines.html

Doesn't your socially awkard ass have a story about public pools? :lol benefactor what did this fool do again?

[Relevancy]

:lol "Luck"

Let's get you in a batting cage and see how "lucky" you get. Keep in mind that hitters are going up against professional pitchers who can throw a ball 90+ mph and are trying to get them out. They're not going to serve up hits and homers on a silver platter all the time. Luck has nothing to do with it - it's a matter of skill vs. skill, and whose skill wins out.

What baseball haters don't seem to get is that pitching and defense can be just as entertaining as offense. Yes, it's fun to watch an electric offense pile up runs on the scoreboard. But it's also fun to watch a tense pitchers' duel in October, or players like Travis Pillar, George Springer and Alex Gordon pull off Web Gems in the field.I don't hate baseball, baseball is my families favorite sport down in Mexico, had an uncle that was really good at it and a cousin that has quite an arm... Watching it live or playing it is more fun then watching it through tv son

[Relevancy]

I don't get floptrot fans obsession with weight/physique?

If you want to get critical in that regard, this guy's body is absolute shit. Almost non-existent muscle tone. Looks like he never lifted a weight in his life.

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z231/Hekko_photo/FranckRibery.jpg

Oh, but he's "skinny" and therefore "fit."

Furthermore, being fat does not keep you from being fit. Rugby is a far more demanding game regarding stamina and endurance (tackling a 250lb beast without pads is a lot more tiring than jogging around for 30 seconds), and a lot of rugby players look like this.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/47243000/jpg/_47243921_jacobsen282.jpg

And :lol hitting is based on luck. You really don't know what you're talking about.I still feel like Football is quite demanding, if you or me did any of their drills we would guarantee die right in the spot son.. and to be fair every player in each sport is framed accordingly to the physical demands of the sport, in football you don't need muscles because it would only slow you down, football players still lift but they don't lift heavy

[midnightpulp]

I still feel like Football is quite demanding, if you or me did any of their drills we would guarantee die right in the spot son.. and to be fair every player in each sport is framed accordingly to the physical demands of the sport, in football you don't need muscles because it would only slow you down, football players still lift but they don't lift heavy

What's this prove? I would "die" on the spot right now if I did any intensive basketball, football, or baseball drills and workouts.

But I'm biased toward lifting because I always found it much more demanding than cardio drills. Most involved in fitness do as well.

Anyhow, the misconception people have about baseball is that because it's not a sport where players are in constant movement, strength and conditioning must not be as intensive in other sports. Nothing could be further from a truth. Runs are at a high premium in baseball, so having fast players who can beat out throws, rob base hits and strong players who can hit for extra bases and throw out runners is essential.

Here's Klay Thompson's brother Trayce gearing up to a speed of 22mph (which is a faster speed than the 21.8mph record speed Antonio Valencia reached in the EPL) to rob a basehit and save a run.

http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/73955164/v509134383/kccws-thompson-flies-at-22-mph-to-make-the-catch

You don't get that athleticism sitting around eating burgers.

Are there some fatties in baseball? Sure. But they're usually relief pitchers and DH's, and I would guess the fatty ratio in baseball is the same as it is in the NBA (there's a lot of fat bigs in the NBA, both now and historically).

The vast majority of baseball players are highly athletic, as shown by the league average 6.9 second 60 yard dash time (converts into a 4.69 40 time) and 28" vertical leap.

[Splits]

You're still spinning with this shit?

I guess you're taking the Da_Suns_Fan angle of blowing up an insignificant oversight and acting like it undermines the whole argument.

Here's some simple questions, and if you're intellectually as honest as you proclaim, you'll answer them unbiasedly.

1. Is 13.8% considered "fat" by any health metric in existence?

(if no)

2. How does your "fatball" description make sense when the average MLB player has that body fat percentage?

I await some sort of deflection, but I will hold out hope that I'm pleasantly surprised.

1. By general population standards, no. By professional "athlete" making millions of dollars a year standards, yes. Hence, it didn't fit into the "athlete" category of the chart you posted.

[spurraider21]

bruh, midnightpulp lost all credibility when he tried to argue prince fielder is faster than cristiano ronaldo

[midnightpulp]

bruh, midnightpulp lost all credibility when he tried to argue prince fielder is faster than cristiano ronaldo

Prince in high school was faster. Ronaldo's 40 time is absolute shit, behind many 300 lb NFL lineman.

Current Prince is not, though.

[apalisoc_9]

bruh, midnightpulp lost all credibility when he tried to argue prince fielder is faster than cristiano ronaldo

:lmao

[midnightpulp]

1. By general population standards, no. By professional "athlete" making millions of dollars a year standards, yes. Hence, it didn't fit into the "athlete" category of the chart you posted.

Since when does body fat percentage define athleticism?

This guy probably has <7 percent body fat, and would lose decisively to an NFL linebacker with 20% body fat in a decathlon.

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Sport/Pix/pictures/2012/7/12/1342119439602/Mo-Farah-celebrates-winni-008.jpg

Oh:

http://oi67.tinypic.com/dxeejt.jpg

Here's where Splits does a bunch of mental gymnastics ("yeah, but those are college soccer players, not the EPL Gods I worship!" Never mind the fact that Ribery, Rooney, etc are at the upper bound of BF% for a soccer player, and just looking at their physiques, it's obvious those skinny fats are in the 18% range. Or he tries to say NFL players aren't legitimate athletes :lol).

Just take the L, bro. Your "Fatball" label has been exposed as having little truth behind it. I know it pains you to say something positive about an American sport, but try to be open minded.

[apalisoc_9]

Mid still trying too hard to use American reference :lmao

[Splits]

bruh, midnightpulp lost all credibility when he tried to argue prince fielder is faster than cristiano ronaldo

Or when he claimed that the average MLB player is 6'2" 190 when the actual number is 6'1" 223 :lol

[midnightpulp]

:lmao

It's funny how the soccer crew can't back up their shit.


Prince Fielder was too fat, baseball scouts and detractors used to say. ... He ran the 60-yard dash for pro scouts his senior year in 6.8 seconds.

6.8 60 yard dash translates into a 4.55 40 yard dash time.


It’s a safe estimate to say Cristiano could run the 40 yard dash between 4.64-4.70

https://xcountrytrackathlete.wordpress.com/2015/09/04/how-fast-could-cristiano-ronaldo-run-the-nfl-40-yard-dash/

:lmao indeed

:lol Shredded floptrot players can't even outrun some of the fattest and least athletic players in baseball.

[midnightpulp]

Or when he claimed that the average MLB player is 6'2" 190 when the actual number is 6'1" 223 :lol

Doesn't matter. 13.8% is the only number that matters.

Tell me with a straight face that BMI is more important than BF% when evaluating physique?

Keep belaboring that point though, since you have no other argument.

[Splits]

Ahh, the venerable xcountrytrackathlete.wordpress.com website, the source everyone goes to for their sports analytics.

[Splits]

Doesn't matter. 13.8% is the only number that matters.

Tell me with a straight face that BMI is more important than BF% when evaluating physique?

Keep belaboring that point though, since you have no other argument.

If it didn't matter you wouldn't have been pimping 6'2" 190.

[140]

bruh, midnightpulp lost all credibility when he tried to argue prince fielder is faster than cristiano ronaldo


Or when he claimed that the average MLB player is 6'2" 190 when the actual number is 6'1" 223 :lol
Or when he keeps bringing up Rooney as an example as if he is a relevant player :lol

[apalisoc_9]

Using american sources....:lol

The same source that list 6'4 players as 6'7

:lol

[midnightpulp]

Ahh, the venerable xcountrytrackathlete.wordpress.com website, the source everyone goes to for their sports analytics.

"When you can't argue against the evidence, discredit the source."

The Laws of Physics are the same for xcountrytrackathlete.wordpress.com as they are for Sports Science.

We also have Ronaldo's top EPL sprint speed and it's a totally underwhelming 21mph. Remember, the sensor gates are 40m apart in that case, so Ronaldo has more room to work with to reach a top speed (sprinters don't max out until about 190 feet). Mike Trout (6'2", 230lb) can gear up to 21.5 mph over 80 fuckin' feet.

Ronaldo is a totally average athlete compared to his American betters.

Just. Take. The. L.

[spurraider21]

"When you can't argue against the evidence, discredit the source."

The Laws of Physics are the same for xcountrytrackathlete.wordpress.com as they are for Sports Science.

We also have Ronaldo's top EPL sprint speed and it's a totally underwhelming 21mph. Remember, the sensor gates are 40m apart in that case, so Ronaldo has more room to work with to reach a top speed (sprinters don't max out until about 190 feet). Mike Trout (6'2", 230lb) can gear up to 21.5 mph over 80 fuckin' feet.

Ronaldo is a totally average athlete compared to his American betters.

Just. Take. The. L.
baseball has a lot more straight line sprinting than soccer does. a guy like ronaldo does his sprinting with a ball at his feet. capturing a baseball player's spring speed is simpler since they run in straight lines. its disingenuous to compare that to a random sprint speed captured during a povertyball game

for instance, THIS is the play they used to track Bale's "top speed"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11JPa0lkYOY

According to player physical performance statistics in La Liga published by “Marca” Gareth Bale’s 34.7 km/h top speed during that famous sprint against Barcelona resulted in goal was the fastest recorded by any player in Spain.

http://www.totalsportek.com/list/fastest-footballers/

[midnightpulp]

If it didn't matter you wouldn't have been pimping 6'2" 190.

Still on this. :lmao

As much as you so badly want to be European, you're still an American at heart.

That pride :lol

[midnightpulp]

baseball has a lot more straight line sprinting than soccer does. a guy like ronaldo does his sprinting with a ball at his feet

Yeah, that's why every time I watch a floptrot match, there's at least 10-20 instances of players sprinting (in a straight) line to the ball :lol

:cry "They're not as fast because they don't train for it as much" :cry

I seriously, seriously doubt baseball players train more in straight line sprinting than floptrot players.

All I'm reading ITT are a bunch of excuses ("He's citing American sources!" "Rooney isn't a relevant player!") from the soccer crew when I've definitively proven (again) the top athletes in that sport are overall less athletic than baseball players.

[spurraider21]

Yeah, that's why every time I watch a floptrot match, there's at least 10-20 instances of players sprinting (in a straight) line to the ball :lol
over what distance? 40 feet?

[spurraider21]

6.8 60 yard dash translates into a 4.55 40 yard dash time.
i dont think you can just make a simple fraction/proportion when comparing those. the acceleration period (the slowest split) is much more significant in the 40 than a 60

and have u seen the math they used to estimate ronadlo's 40 time? :lol

[midnightpulp]

over what distance? 40 feet?

Various distances.

I also saw the Bale video, and yeah, he made a turn, but he still straight line sprinted for a good 40-60 feet.

But here's what you're not considering on the baseball side. Many of the top sprint speeds registered in baseball are from stolen bases and catching fly balls, and those runners begin from a DEAD STOP (ex. Bolt runs the last 100m of the 200m in 8.61 seconds, a full one second lower than his best 100m time). Bale was in motion for pretty much the whole sequence, so he didn't accelerate from 0-to-whatever. He was probably keeping a 15-16mph constant speed before turning it on for the final 40-60 feet.

And yeah, baseball players turn as well and still easily beat that MPH:

http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/73955164/v947327183/ladwsh-turner-reaches-227-mph-to-leg-out-triple

[midnightpulp]

i dont think you can just make a simple fraction/proportion when comparing those. the acceleration period (the slowest split) is much more significant in the 40 than a 60

and have u seen the math they used to estimate ronadlo's 40 time? :lol

You should know from being an NFL fan that fat doesn't equal slow. Warren Sapp ran a 4.7 40 yard.

Prince is in the worst shape of his life, and still cranked it up to 18.2 mph last season.

http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/73955164/v482032783/houtex-prince-runs-home-at-18-mph-to-tie-the-game

And yes, I know about acceleration. But it's not like any runner is going to suddenly gain a significant amount of speed over 20 yard splits. Prince is still running a 4.5-4.6 40. Let's not forget that Ronaldo's time is from testing in lab conditions with artificial turf and Prince's 60 yard time was done in the real world on either grass or infield gravel (which doesn't have the best traction).

[spurraider21]

You should know from being an NFL fan that fat doesn't equal slow. Warren Sapp ran a 4.7 40 yard.

Prince is in the worst shape of his life, and still cranked it up to 18.2 mph last season.

http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/73955164/v482032783/houtex-prince-runs-home-at-18-mph-to-tie-the-game

And yes, I know about acceleration. But it's not like any runner is going to suddenly gain a significant amount of speed over 20 yard splits. Prince is still running a 4.5-4.6 40. Let's not forget that Ronaldo's time is from testing in lab conditions with artificial turf and Prince's 60 yard time was done in the real world on either grass or infield gravel (which doesn't have the best traction).
:lmao

[midnightpulp]

:lmao

:lol 300lb linemen can run 4.6-4.8 40yard
:lol Prince wasn't nearly that big in HS
:lol Has a documented 60 yard dash time of 6.8 seconds
:lol Philo Philos because he has no counterargument

If you doubt it, prove it, Philo.

But yeah, it's a stretch of logic that the 250lb HS Prince can run that fast when the 375lb Vince Wilfork can run a 5.05 40.

Phil:lol

[spurraider21]

Prince fielder was in high school 15 years ago... and you're using one time he ran a certain speed and claiming "he still runs that fast"

[midnightpulp]

Prince fielder was in high school 15 years ago... and you're using one time he ran a certain speed and claiming "he still runs that fast"


Prince in high school was faster. Ronaldo's 40 time is absolute shit, behind many 300 lb NFL lineman.

Current Prince is not, though.

I just bring up Prince's innate athleticism when the soccer crew uses him as an example of "unathletic fatball" players. Even in the terrible shape he's in, he's still pretty quick.

And I find it funny that he once ran faster or as fast as a Ronaldo in his athletic peak (they did a whole gay show about it on Euro TV, "marveling" at Ronaldo's amazing 17" no step vert, 30" running vert, and 3.61 25m sprint time :lol).