clinton vp could be friday

[ducks]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ap-sources-clinton-vp-search-focus-kaine-vilsack-200835405--election.html

AP sources: Clinton VP search focus is Kaine, Vilsack, Perez


no warren what she is afraid of wall street?

[ducks]

so 2 of them speak Spanish so is she picking one of those above everyone else because they are more qualified or because they can speak Spanish
but I thought everyone in whitehouse spoke English and is the national language!

[TheGreatYacht]

Whoever it is, it'll be better than Pence :lol

[ducks]

pence lowered taxes and has a budget surplac and created more jobs as a governor
you may not agree with him on other views he has but for any one too do that even a democrat it is good!

[Reck]

It would have been Warren but Trump's pick for VP made her life so fucking easy that Hillary stopped talking about Warren completely.

I would love Warren but I can live with Kaine. The fuck is a Vilsack?

[ElNono]

She will pick somebody nobody knows or cares about that has some national security creds, IMO. That's her weakest spot and where she's easy to attack. From what I read, Kaine fits that description.

[FkLA]

Hopefully whoever she picks is president within a year. The crook snake needs to be assassinated tbh.

[boutons_deux]

pence lowered taxes and has a budget surplac and created more jobs as a governor
you may not agree with him on other views he has but for any one too do that if a democrat it is good!

:lol

[ErnestLynch]

It will probably be a mixed race homeless transgendered undocumented physically disabled mentally challenged hearing impaired shrunken headed zika midget with several STD's and an outstanding student loan.

[boutons_deux]

Looks like it will be BigFinance shill Kaine, with Hillary killing all pretense of being progressive, she's a BigFinance well-paid sycophant.

[FkLA]

Can someone please assassinate this bitch. Please.

[Killakobe81]

Can someone please assassinate this bitch. Please.

come on that is bit much. I liked Bernie on some issues but no way was the Dems gonna win veering to far left ... and if Bernie were elected teh reps would have fought him tooth and nail on EVERYTHING ...

[FkLA]

come on that is bit much. I liked Bernie on some issues but no way was the Dems gonna win veering to far left ... and if Bernie were elected teh reps would have fought him tooth and nail on EVERYTHING ...

Nah. She needs to die. She's crooked, fake, dishonest, and a huge danger to the country. I die a little everytime I have to hear that bitch speak.

[CosmicCowboy]

Nah. She needs to die. She's crooked, fake, dishonest, and a huge danger to the country. I die a little everytime I have to hear that bitch speak.

:lol

Tell us what you REALLY think!

[DMX7]

pence lowered taxes and has a budget surplac and created more jobs as a governor
you may not agree with him on other views he has but for any one too do that even a democrat it is good!

I feel dumber on so many levels for having read that horrible sentence, and not in the way you probably think.

[ducks]

Hillary Clinton
✔ ‎@HillaryClinton

I'm thrilled to announce my running mate, TIMKaine, a man who's devoted his life to fighting for others. -H

[ducks]

Talk of Kaine's selection, however, brought attacks earlier Friday from liberal groups, many of whom supported Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, telling the Times that they worried about his positions on Wall Street regulation and world trade.

he speaks Spanish so she thinks she will will need him to

[TheGreatYacht]

Great safe choice and will shit on Pence. That I can assure. It's going to be great!

[TheSanityAnnex]

Kaine and disabled

[ducks]

Kaine joined his colleagues across the Rotunda in the sit-in. And the previous week, he and his Senate colleagues had participated in a 14-hour filibuster calling for gun control reform, led by Connecticut Sen. Chris Murphy.

[Pelicans78]

Great safe choice and will shit on Pence. That I can assure. It's going to be great!

She needed a safe choice. I think it was a good call. She couldn't afford to take a risk with her low favorables.

[TheGreatYacht]

Booker was my top choice, but Kaine is great

[ducks]

2 governor to endorse the current president in 2008

[TheGreatYacht]

She needed a safe choice. I think it was a good call. She couldn't afford to take a risk with her low favorables.
I agree :tu

[ducks]

anyone here wanted sanders?

[Pelicans78]

I agree :tu

Kaine is a pretty versatile guy. Plus she trusts him. In fact, he's a safer choice than what Pence is for Trump. With Pence, people confuse safe with boring.

[Pelicans78]

anyone here wanted sanders?

He will have more power in the Senate than he would as a potential vice president.

[TheGreatYacht]

Kaine is a pretty versatile guy. Plus she trusts him. In fact, he's a safer choice than what Pence is for Trump. With Pence, people confuse safe with boring.
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Also loved in a much needed swing state!

[Pelicans78]

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Yeah, it's hard to compete with his record. Only people who will dislike this is the really far left.

[angrydude]

Establishment candidate picks establishment running mate. Yawn. Wake me up when this shitshow is over.

[hitmanyr2k]

It's a weak pick and makes for a very boring ticket. Considering her favorability ratings Hillary needed someone exciting and positive to overshadow her a bit. She hardly generates any excitement at all and when she tries to sound "inspiring" it comes off as forced and hollow. She's just not a good orator that can make that connection with people. And Kaine isn't that person either.

[ElNono]

Don't even know who this guy is, tbh...

[Reck]

It's a weak pick and makes for a very boring ticket. Considering her favorability ratings Hillary needed someone exciting and positive to overshadow her a bit. She hardly generates any excitement at all and when she tries to sound "inspiring" it comes off as forced and hollow. She's just not a good orator that can make that connection with people. And Kaine isn't that person either.

How is this a weak pick?

He essentially checks all the boxes required.

Well liked by his peers among the senate
Good reputation among moderares and liberals
Not a warhawk
Potentially delivers her Virginia on a silver platter

Safe is good in this case. Specially when you compare Pence and Kaine's record.

[ducks]

Kaine Is Anti-Abortion, Risks Losing Feminists

[TheGreatYacht]

Kaine Is Anti-Abortion, Risks Losing Feminists
He is, but votes for choice

[HI-FI]

Don't even know who this guy is, tbh...
:lol pretty much.

I was surprised she didn't choose the Castro faggot. i figured this was either Warren or a hispandering move.

[ElNono]

:lol pretty much.

I was surprised she didn't choose the Castro faggot. i figured this was either Warren or a hispandering move.

Castro would've been a great pick, even if I don't particularly love the guy. He's at least somewhat charismatic, another thing Shillary completely lacks.

[Warlord23]

A defensive, safe pick. Fluent Spanish speaker, Catholic, Midwestern upbringing, popular in Virginia, moderate positions.

Her likely path to 270 now includes the following swing states:
Wisconsin (she has a healthy lead, and WI Conservatives don't like Trump)
Pennsylvania (historically goes blue despite being talked up as a swing state)
Virginia (Demographics + Kaine)
Colorado (Demographics + healthy lead)
Nevada (Demographics)

If she wins these, it wouldn't matter if Trump won OH, FL, NC, IA, NH - all states where he currently trails her in poll averages.

[boutons_deux]

Like Hillary, he's BigFinanace stooge

Tim Kaine Calls To Deregulate Banks As He Campaigns To Be Clinton’s VP

He’s also actively pushing bank deregulation this week as he campaigns for the job.

Kaine signed two letters on Monday urging federal regulators to go easy on banks ― one to help big banks dodge risk management rules, and another to help small banks avoid consumer protection standards.

Kaine, by contrast, is setting himself up as a figure willing to do battle with the progressive wing of the party. He has championed the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal that both Sanders and Warren oppose,

The big bank letter would help major firms including Capital One, PNC Bank and U.S. Bank, all of which control hundreds of billions of dollars in assets. Such large “regional banks,” Kaine writes, are being discriminated against based solely on the fact that they are so big.

On the small bank side, Kaine pressed Consumer Financial Protection Bureau Director Richard Cordray to exempt “community banks and credit unions” from new rules. Doing so would leave these institutions, which include banks with up to $10 billion in assets, more lightly regulated than they were before the financial crisis.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tim-kaine-clinton-vp_us_578fc8e3e4b0bdddc4d2c86c

BigFinance gets their man.

[boutons_deux]

Hillary's choice exposes her fraudulent claims to be progressive

Tim Kaine Has a Troubling Record on Labor Issues

Hillary Clinton’s VP pick is a well-regarded senior Democrat, but he has split with labor on the TPP, banking regulation, and even “right-to-work” laws.

“Kaine has supported Virginia’s right-to-work law since he ran for governor in 2005, and his campaign says that position has not changed.”

Yet Kaine has a history of breaking with labor and progressives on economic issues—to such an extent that headlines refer to the senator as “a Democrat Wall Street can like (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/tim-kaine-clinton-rumored-vp-000000899.html).”

He has argued for looser banking regulations (http://looser%20banking%20regulations/) and was a leading advocate of granting fast-track authority for the unpopular Trans-Pacific Partnership trade deal (https://theintercept.com/2016/07/21/hours-before-hillary-clintons-vp-decision-likely-pick-tim-kaine-praises-the-tpp/).

https://www.thenation.com/article/tim-kaine-has-a-troubling-record-on-labor-issues/

So the Real Terror screwing Americans is fully supported by Kaine.

[boutons_deux]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CoA1YRGWIAAbzSV.jpg

[rmt]

progressive who gets things done? This guy is a progressive? Or does she just throw this term around?

[boutons_deux]

progressive who gets things done? This guy is a progressive? Or does she just throw this term around?

she and Kaine aren't progressive where it counts: bowing to capital as it screws labor.

[TheGreatYacht]

Wow, the speech Tim Kaine is giving is the best speech I've heard all week :wow

Great, great choice Hillary

[TheGreatYacht]

Introduction to Tim Kaine was a success.

Unlike Pence, who was introduced by Trump while "You can't always get what you want" by the Rolling Stones was playing :lol

[djohn2oo8]

That was a hell of a speech

[spurraider21]

Kaine Is Anti-Abortion, Risks Losing Feminists
to trump? :lmao

[rmt]

to trump? :lmao

I think Trump is closet anti-abortion - but he's not running on social issues. It's all trade and immigration for him - well, add in "law and order."

[spurraider21]

I think Trump is closet anti-abortion - but he's not running on social issues. It's all trade and immigration for him - well, add in "law and order."
not even a matter of his views on abortion... Trump has never stopped short of degrading women in general when given the opportunity. trump getting the feminist vote is more laughable than getting the hispanic vote

[rmt]

not even a matter of his views on abortion... Trump has never stopped short of degrading women in general when given the opportunity. trump getting the feminist vote is more laughable than getting the hispanic vote

My comment was not on women or feminist - it was purely an abortion comment.

[spurraider21]

My comment was not on women or feminist - it was purely an abortion comment.
read through the comment thread. this began with ducks claiming trump could get the feminist vote :lol

[boutons_deux]

I think Trump is closet anti-abortion - but he's not running on social issues. It's all trade and immigration for him - well, add in "law and order."


he won't do anything on trade, immigration, or law-and-order, even if were ever to sniff the Oval Office

[rmt]

read through the comment thread. this began with ducks claiming trump could get the feminist vote :lol

Sorry, I don't remember the whole thread - I was just commenting on the recent post.

[Dirk Oneanddoneski]

Yesterday Hillary Clinton announced her VP running mate, Tim Kaine. Let me tell you how that decision looks from a persuasion standpoint. I’ll ignore Kaine’s education, experience, political preferences, and anything else that voters say they care about but don’t. Today, let’s just talk about how people will*feel about it.

For context, consider Trump’s VP running mate, Mike Pence. He’s the perfect choice for Trump because of the contrast it creates. If you started with Trump and removed everything interesting about him, you’d have Pence. Visually, Pence is the washed-out, smaller, duller Trump. That’s perfect contrast. When you see the two of them together, Pence looks like a black-and-white photograph compared to Trump’s full color. In other words, Pence helps to make the top of the ticket look better, and that’s exactly what you want.*

But Clinton had the extra challenge of being a woman in a sexist country. If she picked another woman as her running mate, it would seem to the public as a gender-based hire and work against her. That would be a losing strategy.

If Clinton picked an alpha male running mate – a Donald Trump type – it would create an awkward contrast and do nothing to make her look stronger. So Clinton’s best path was to select a beta male with solid credentials. Tim Kaine fits the bill. Considering her available options, she probably made the right choice.

I polled my Twitter followers to see if they thought Kaine registered to them as an alpha male, beta male, or other. Only 4% said he looked alpha. My poll is far from scientific, but subjectively speaking, I think they got it right. Check out his Google images page here and see if you agree. Remember, I’m only talking about your sexist first impression, not a deeper truth.


This is all deeply subjective, obviously, but that’s the point. If the public sees Kaine as a beta male to Clinton’s alpha female, that’s their reality. And the Master Persuader filter says this perception will make a difference.

Clinton will probably win the vote of women. Her problem is men. If you ask a man why he doesn’t like Hillary Clinton, he might say something about her policies and her history. But the persuasion filter says the real reason men don’t like Clinton is that they can’t stand listening to her. Her speaking style reminds men of every bad relationship they have ever had with a woman. We’re all irrational sexists on some level, and Clinton sounds to many male ears like a disgruntled ex-wife, or perhaps your mom who had a really bad day. That’s a problem if you need the male vote.

Now add Tim Kaine to the mix. In our irrational minds – where we compare everything to our personal experience – Kaine will play the part of the beta male husband whose wife can’t stop complaining about her terrible co-worker, Donald Trump. No guy wants to hear eight years of that. They get enough of it at home.

My prediction is that Kaine will do nothing to improve Clinton’s standing with women. But the Clinton-Kaine ticket is a persuasion disaster in terms of the male vote. Male egos are probably already at a historical low point.*Kaine puts a face to that movie. Will men vote to watch Hillary Clinton make Tim Kaine her Whitehouseboy for eight years?

The persuasion filter says they won’t. And after men vote against Clinton, they’ll tell pollsters it had something to do with her policies and her history.

[beirmeistr]

I was not familiar with Kaine's speaking style or any other aspect of him, but I was very impressed with his rally speech today. Even if some pundits will say that hillary was already leading in Virginia, I think Kaine will ensure a blue Virginia (13 electoral votes) . In addition, he should be able to help energize the latinos and blacks in Florida, Nevada, Colorado, New Mexico , etc. I think hillary made a very good choice.

[rmt]

The FOX commentators are saying he's a safe bet because of the Democrat Virginia governor - so no loss in the Senate and brings a swing state. Some suggest that she should have chosen Sherrod Brown who would more likely bring the Bernie people but he's in Ohio (a Republican governor) so a loss of a senate seat.

[rmt]

not even a matter of his views on abortion... Trump has never stopped short of degrading women in general when given the opportunity. trump getting the feminist vote is more laughable than getting the hispanic vote

What is Trump as president going to do against me as a woman?

[spurraider21]

What is Trump as president going to do against me as a woman?
not my point. i'm talking about his ability to get the votes

[DarrinS]

Well, there's a VP debate that nobody wants to watch.

[Reck]

Boots is a very confused man. He doesn't know where he wants to be. :lol

I'll have to youtube that speech later.

[ducks]

So now she has a Spanish Twitter account and does not speak it
http://twitchy.com/twitchys-3839/2016/07/21/loco-hillary-clinton-launches-all-spanish-twitter-account-doesnt-speak-spanish/

[InRareForm]

I don't see a problem with spanish twitter. Doesn't imply that that user speaks spanish. It just is showing information via spanish.

[boutons_deux]

I don't see a problem with spanish twitter. Doesn't imply that that user speaks spanish. It just is showing information via spanish.

it's ducks! :lol

[boutons_deux]

SEEMINGLY DECENT HUMAN BEING’S INVOLVEMENT IN 2016 ELECTION CONFUSES VOTERS

MIAMI — The involvement of a seemingly decent human being in the 2016 election campaign left American voters stunned and deeply bewildered on Saturday.

In interviews across the country, voters expressed reactions ranging from

shock to total incomprehension at the campaign début of a man who, at first blush, exhibits none of the outward characteristics of a sociopath or clinical narcissist.

Furthermore, the man’s evident failure to be the target of fraud lawsuits, sexual-harassment claims, or federal criminal investigations was, in the parlance of many voters, “weird.”

“He seems like a nice guy, the kind of person you might enjoy spending time with and getting to know better,” said Harland Dorrinson, age thirty-two, who watched the man’s unveiling on TV. “I don’t know.

The whole thing feels like some kind of prank.”

The man’s apparent humanity could spell trouble for his candidacy, as some voters questioned whether he has the capacity for unspeakable evil that is generally considered necessary to win higher office.

“I’m trying to keep an open mind, but I worry about his lack of experience being a dick,” one voter said.

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/seemingly-decent-human-beings-involvement-in-2016-election-confuses-voters?mbid=nl_072416%20Borowitz%20Newsletter%20(1 )&CNDID=43758549&spMailingID=9247801&spUserID=MTQzNTk4MTA2MDYxS0&spJobID=961916136&spReportId=OTYxOTE2MTM2S0 (http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/seemingly-decent-human-beings-involvement-in-2016-election-confuses-voters?mbid=nl_072416%20Borowitz%20Newsletter%20(1 )&CNDID=43758549&spMailingID=9247801&spUserID=MTQzNTk4MTA2MDYxS0&spJobID=961916136&spReportId=OTYxOTE2MTM2S0)

[ducks]

this was a bigger pick then some thought