What % of blacks and browns will vote Dem or 3rd? (Not Repub)

[Fabbs]

Seeing that little bitch Paul Ryan post his group picture of white washed interns and now seeing Eddie Bernice Johnson D-Texas post this multi racial group intern pic today:
https://scontent.fsan1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13680661_10154314242982068_2045083619178587454_n.j pg?oh=9f0dcda866d953f2c3213dbead38fcc4&oe=58306A2A
Along with the comments "Im so proud of my summer interns Audra Jackson & Omar Al-hendy for organizing the hundreds of Democrat interns to take their own selfie that shows the diversity our caucus has in its future leaders."

Seriously, what % of blacks and browns will vote Republican?

[Pelicans78]

Probably no more than 10% which is the number of Muslims voting for Trump.

[DarrinS]

Lol getting "triggered" by photos of white people

[Fabbs]

Worth a thousand words.

[vy65]

DarrinS

K92rOsjyLBs

[hater]

Enough to win it for the Donald.

We just need enough. Not a lot. Just enough. Well get it

[DarrinS]

DarrinS

K92rOsjyLBs


Well, I guess that explains why a photo of white interns is a microaggression.

[TheGreatYacht]

Lol getting "triggered" by photos of white people
You got triggered by black people though, lol.

[spurraider21]

Lol getting "triggered" by photos of white people
:lol

[Spurminator]

Lol at calling that "triggered."

[spurraider21]

Lol at calling that "triggered."
Yes, I would call this triggered

Seeing that little bitch Paul Ryan post his group picture of white washed interns?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Lol at calling that "triggered."

It was used against him for a stupid outburst and he's been waiting to use it on someone else.

[cd021]

Probably no more than 10% which is the number of Muslims voting for Trump.

Likely closer to five percent Obama won 91% and 93%. Hilary should be embarrassed if she doesn't get 95% of the vote.

[cd021]

I'd be shocked if Hilary doesn't win 95% of the black vote and 85% of Hispanic vote along with 80% of Asian vote.

All three are realistic numbers.

[Reck]

Truthfully, even 5% would be too much.

Right now, he's not even polling at 2% let alone 5 or 10. He'll never get there.

[Spurminator]

Yes, I would call this triggered

I'm going to assume OP's feelings on Paul Ryan being a little bitch are not directly linked to the photo he shared.

[Fabbs]

Omarosa appointed by Trump as "Director of African-American Outreach" :lol

[spurraider21]

I'm going to assume OP's feelings on Paul Ryan being a little bitch are not directly linked to the photo he shared.
Yeah totally unrelated. And I'm sure the picture had nothing to do with his white washed comment either

[Reck]

Yeah totally unrelated. And I'm sure the picture had nothing to do with his white washed comment either

Why is it so bad that this triggered a response? It's a legit issue as far as I'm concerned and it shows the lack of awareness the Republican Party has.

I myself dont give a shit about some politician taking a selfie with his white interns but for the purposes of voting and the outreach efforts this looks bad. It shows they're not even trying and live in a white world thinking that will get them home.

[Spurminator]

Yeah totally unrelated. And I'm sure the picture had nothing to do with his white washed comment either

"Triggered" implies an emotional response. The photo by Johnson was a response, but I see it more as mockery and opportunism than being offended.

[CosmicCowboy]

Totally anecdotal, but I was speaking to a Hispanic Police officer this morning and he said as far as he was concerned the hispanics "hating Trump" echo chamber was total bullshit. He said he, all his friends and all the SAPD police officers he knew despised Hillary Clinton and would be voting for Trump.

[spurraider21]

Totally anecdotal, but I was speaking to a Hispanic Police officer this morning and he said as far as he was concerned the hispanics "hating Trump" echo chamber was total bullshit. He said he, all his friends and all the SAPD police officers he knew despised Hillary Clinton and would be voting for Trump.
If Hispanics don't hate trump then why was donny so sure that the judge would be biased against him

[rmt]

Likely closer to five percent Obama won 91% and 93%. Hilary should be embarrassed if she doesn't get 95% of the vote.

Why do you think that Hillary should get a higher % of blacks than Obama?

[TheGreatYacht]

Totally anecdotal, but I was speaking to a Hispanic Police officer this morning and he said as far as he was concerned the hispanics "hating Trump" echo chamber was total bullshit. He said he, all his friends and all the SAPD police officers he knew despised Hillary Clinton and would be voting for Trump.
A pig voting for the republican candidate :lol didn't see that one coming

You can keep :downspin:shit all you want, numbers say differently.

[cd021]

Why do you think that Hillary should get a higher % of blacks than Obama?

Cause Donald Trump is running for President.

Plus Obama and Bill Clinton and possibly Sanders will campaign for her.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Totally anecdotal, but I was speaking to a Hispanic Police officer this morning and he said as far as he was concerned the hispanics "hating Trump" echo chamber was total bullshit. He said he, all his friends and all the SAPD police officers he knew despised Hillary Clinton and would be voting for Trump.
He is employed. All the legal Hispanics I work with despise illegals and echo many of Trumps thoughts on immigration.

[TheGreatYacht]

He is employed. All the legal Hispanics I work with despise illegals and echo many of Trumps thoughts on immigration.
Quit bullshitting.

[Fabbs]

Did Donny gain some brown votes with his trip to Mexico? :lol

[RandomGuy]

http://electionlawblog.org/wp-content/uploads/nc-4th.pdf


After years of preclearance and expansion of voting access,
by 2013 African American registration and turnout rates had
finally reached near-parity with white registration and turnout
rates. African Americans were poised to act as a major
electoral force. But, on the day after the Supreme Court issued
Shelby County v. Holder, 133 S. Ct. 2612 (2013), eliminating
preclearance obligations, a leader of the party that newly
dominated the legislature (and the party that rarely enjoyed
African American support) announced an intention to enact what
he characterized as an “omnibus” election law. Before enacting
that law, the legislature requested data on the use, by race, of
a number of voting practices. Upon receipt of the race data,
the General Assembly enacted legislation that restricted voting
and registration in five different ways, all of which
disproportionately affected African Americans.

[RandomGuy]

Totally anecdotal, but I was speaking to a Hispanic Police officer this morning and he said as far as he was concerned the hispanics "hating Trump" echo chamber was total bullshit. He said he, all his friends and all the SAPD police officers he knew despised Hillary Clinton and would be voting for Trump.

Hillary is uniquely despised in that regard. Anyone attempting to paint any large demographic as monolithic tends to fall flat of the truth, so it isn't surprising you will get some that will vote for Trump no matter what abuse he might heap on them.

[SpursforSix]

Hillary is uniquely despised in that regard. Anyone attempting to paint any large demographic as monolithic tends to fall flat of the truth, so it isn't surprising you will get some that will vote for Trump no matter what abuse he might heap on them.

That works both ways. I suspect there is a large number of voters that will vote Hillary regardless of what she did or might have done.

Uneducated voters are the bane of the process and a major reason we're stuck with candidates like these. IMO.

Over 300,000,000 people and we can't put anyone up better than these two?

[rmt]

Hillary is uniquely despised in that regard. Anyone attempting to paint any large demographic as monolithic tends to fall flat of the truth, so it isn't surprising you will get some that will vote for Trump no matter what abuse he might heap on them.

So what abuse will Trump heap on me (as a woman, an Asian)? Seeing as he's so sexist, racist, xxxist.

[RandomGuy]

That works both ways. I suspect there is a large number of voters that will vote Hillary regardless of what she did or might have done.

Uneducated voters are the bane of the process and a major reason we're stuck with candidates like these. IMO.

Over 300,000,000 people and we can't put anyone up better than these two?

I agree. Quite a few Dems with national cred that would have been better candidates.

[RandomGuy]

So what abuse will Trump heap on me (as a woman, an Asian)? Seeing as he's so sexist, racist, xxxist.

http://img2.thejournal.ie/inline/2467370/original/?width=459&version=2467370

As long as you aren't disabled.

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This is the kind of behavior in a president that will make you proud to be an American?

[DarrinS]

http://img2.thejournal.ie/inline/2467370/original/?width=459&version=2467370

As long as you aren't disabled.

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This is the kind of behavior in a president that will make you proud to be an American?



Was he mocking Hillary?

[rmt]

http://img2.thejournal.ie/inline/2467370/original/?width=459&version=2467370

As long as you aren't disabled.

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This is the kind of behavior in a president that will make you proud to be an American?

Well, Hillary's behavior doesn't make me proud to be an American either. The difference is that Trump's is out there for the whole world to see. Hillary's - well, who knows what we might (or not) find out years down the line. I see Trump's as BSing, egotistical, things related to his image. Hillary - calculated, strategic, in the pocket of donors/foreign countries - I see that as much more dangerous to us as a country.

And you still haven't answered my question - what abuse is Trump gonna heap on me - as a woman, as an Asian or with a disability?

[RandomGuy]

Well, Hillary's behavior doesn't make me proud to be an American either. The difference is that Trump's is out there for the whole world to see. Hillary's - well, who knows what we might (or not) find out years down the line. I see Trump's as BSing, egotistical, things related to his image. Hillary - calculated, strategic, in the pocket of donors/foreign countries - I see that as much more dangerous to us as a country.

And you still haven't answered my question - what abuse is Trump gonna heap on me - as a woman, as an Asian or with a disability?

I don't know. The question seemed a bit non sequitur to me, so I didn't think it answerable.

My comment was that some hispanics will vote for Trump anyway.

As for being in the pocket of foreign powers, why do you think she is more so than Trump?

Trump has advisors that are actively kowtowing to Russian interests, and that is directly influencing his preferred policies, which are actively antithetical to that of the US.

Further, Trump has things buried in his financials that offer the potential for massive, and direct conflicts of interest far more clear than any conspiracy theory about the Clinton foundation.

This is one of the things that is being shielded by his hiding of his tax returns, but will become rather blazingly obvious once it comes out.

He owes millions, likely hundreds of millions to foreign banks, several of which have been paying multi-billion dollar fines for breaking US laws.

http://www.npr.org/2016/06/09/481351291/if-elected-president-would-trump-put-his-investments-in-a-blind-trust


A blind trust works for liquid assets: stocks, bonds, other financial instruments. Trump has plenty of those, but his biggest assets are all about the Trump brand. The golf courses, high-rises and so forth can't be easily unloaded. Dropping the Trump name would very likely reduce their value.

Bowdoin College government professor Andrew Rudalevige said, "To put your identity into a blind trust is a little bit difficult."

And as Washington ethics lawyer Ken Gross said, "You can't get amnesia when you put it into a trust, and forget you own it."

What does Trump say?

When Trump was asked about setting up a blind trust earlier this year during a Fox Business debate, Trump was all over the place as to what he would do with his assets:


"If I become president, I couldn't care less about my company. It's peanuts. I want to use that same — up here, whatever it may be — to make America rich again, and to make America great again. I have Ivanka and Eric and Don sitting there. Run the company, kids. Have a good time. I'm going to do it for America. ... I would put it in a blind trust. Well, I don't know if it's a blind trust if Ivanka, Don and Eric run it. But — is that a blind trust? I don't know. But I would probably have my children run it with my executives. And I wouldn't ever be involved, because I wouldn't care about anything but our country. Anything."

A campaign spokeswoman said this week that nothing has changed since he made that statement. In other words: No blind trust.

Trump's entire business model is built on debt. If his net worth is in the billions, so must his debt be, given the nature of large real estate development.

Who does Trump owe money to?

[RandomGuy]

And you still haven't answered my question - what abuse is Trump gonna heap on me - as a woman, as an Asian or with a disability?

On a bit of further thought:

Do you think your job performance should be based on your looks? i.e. should a woman running for office get votes based on her appearance or some other quality?


Just a month later, he said his then rival, Carly Fiorina, was too ugly to become president in an interview with Rolling Stone.

“Look at that face! Would anyone vote for that? Can you imagine that, the face of our next president?" he said.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/donald-trump-offensive-remarks-women-bimbo-dog-fat-pig-sexist-campaign-advert-a6931921.html

[rmt]

On a bit of further thought:

Do you think your job performance should be based on your looks? i.e. should a woman running for office get votes based on her appearance or some other quality?


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/donald-trump-offensive-remarks-women-bimbo-dog-fat-pig-sexist-campaign-advert-a6931921.html

You are still not answering my question. I'll give you my answer - there is nothing he can do as president that will affect me personally based on my sex, my race, my appearance or any disability I might have.

I think that it is very naive to think that being attractive does not get you brownie points in the public eye especially in the US. Is it right? No, but that's reality. And you know what - I'd rather have it all in the open and know EXACTLY who/what it is I'm voting for than be pandered to/lied to/deceived by someone who says all the right things in public and does all kinds of stuff in secret/private.

[Dirk Oneanddoneski]

So what abuse will Trump heap on me (as a woman, an Asian)? Seeing as he's so sexist, racist, xxxist.

are you a oriental?

[rmt]

are you a oriental?

I just found out yesterday that using the word "oriental" is politically incorrect. One is supposed to only refer to a RUG as oriental :lol - not a person. Yes, I'm Asian (Chinese) although I don't speak a word of Chinese.

[RandomGuy]

You are still not answering my question. I'll give you my answer - there is nothing he can do as president that will affect me personally based on my sex, my race, my appearance or any disability I might have.

I think that it is very naive to think that being attractive does not get you brownie points in the public eye especially in the US. Is it right? No, but that's reality. And you know what - I'd rather have it all in the open and know EXACTLY who/what it is I'm voting for than be pandered to/lied to/deceived by someone who says all the right things in public and does all kinds of stuff in secret/private.

I did answer your question: "I don't know".

once again my point was that some people will vote for him despite his spite. I made no commentary about you specifically.

Trump is very obviously sexist, so the heaps of "if she ain't pretty, she's worthless" comments apply to you, as a female.

You also didn't answer MY question. I don't care what the practice is, I am asking you what the ideal should be.

Do you think your job performance [assuming you aren't a spokesmodel or similar] should be based on your looks?

[RandomGuy]

I just found out yesterday that using the word "oriental" is politically incorrect. One is supposed to only refer to a RUG as oriental :lol - not a person. Yes, I'm Asian (Chinese) although I don't speak a word of Chinese.

I had some self-righteous korean kid tell me that once. It was annoying, since she was a dick about it. I don't mind making allowances for people's feelings up to a point, but you have to give me the benefit of the doubt when it comes to intent.

[rmt]

I did answer your question: "I don't know".

once again my point was that some people will vote for him despite his spite. I made no commentary about you specifically.

Trump is very obviously sexist, so the heaps of "if she ain't pretty, she's worthless" comments apply to you, as a female.

You also didn't answer MY question. I don't care what the practice is, I am asking you what the ideal should be.

Do you think your job performance [assuming you aren't a spokesmodel or similar] should be based on your looks?

I learned a long time ago (and teach my kids) that people are gonna say a lot of stuff, but we have control over how we REACT to it. His "sexist" comments don't bother me. I am accountable only to my God and my husband - my value doesn't depend on what stupid thing some person says. My ideal is different from others since (at present) I only have to please God and my husband. If I were working, then yes, I'd have to perform well and be satisfactory to my employer/supervisor and my looks shouldn't matter.

Are Trump's comments any different from comments we sometimes see on this board from any number of you guys? And do I blame men in general for thinking so - no, men are visual - it's the way they're wired - or we'd have been wiped out/not reproduce a long time ago. I think that Trump has a long history of hiring women - of course, I don't know how these women look but iirc he was unusual in hiring them for executive positions and in the construction industry (back then). He's not stupid - when it comes to his business, he's not gonna hire someone simply because she's beautiful if she can't do the job.